ref: The Australian Ark

[Leadman]

Well, I guess it once again comes around to the "Haves" & "Have Nots".

I got all excited reading about the "Australian Ark" and how the Aus $ is such good value at the moment. Thanks for that Bill.

Unfortunately I just checked with my financial broker and he tells me I'm about £325,000 short.

But, please save me a place Bill and if I have managed to save up enough dosh before the S**T hits the fan, I will let you know! :mfr_lol:

For the time being, anyone who wants to p.m. me with discrete offers or donations, please feel free to do so.

[dataeast]

For the time being, anyone who wants to p.m. me with discrete offers or donations, please feel free to do so.

x2 :lol3:

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Well, I guess it once again comes around to the "Haves" & "Have Nots".

I got all excited reading about the "Australian Ark" and how the Aus $ is such good value at the moment. Thanks for that Bill.

Unfortunately I just checked with my financial broker and he tells me I'm about £325,000 short.

But, please save me a place Bill and if I have managed to save up enough dosh before the S**T hits the fan, I will let you know! :mfr_lol:

For the time being, anyone who wants to p.m. me with discrete offers or donations, please feel free to do so.lol yeah i thought that too, i was thinking of going to australia to stay but felt that if i stayed illegally i would be somehow transported out of there on a military transport. i didnt want to risk being an illegal alien and being sent back.. i spent 3 months there in 2007 from february and nealy didnt come home.i loved it so much.. i have friends there.. will people be forcibly repatriated if it goes to war.. my other concern was that australia would get haarped into like zero rainfall and since it a big hot island i didnt fancy getting stuck there and poss invasded by all the muslims from indonesia..a distinct possibillity.. so i decided to tuff it out here in sunny uk.. spent 1500 already on equipment cant leave now.. i agree tho if we dont leave the uk now we are stuck here till the end o the holocaust. i might try to walk to south africa as i have a contact there.. 2011??:smoke:

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i get the feeling that we are screwed if we dont have an underground base+hydroponics.. i could bve wrong but thats what i felt about the statement.. i know they are runnignbehind schedule in the plan. i cant help the feeling we wil have the plug pulled on us in the west soon ??

[Reunite]

Hey friends,

The easiest way to immigrate to Australia is through work sponsership. If you have expertise in a particular field an Employer will consider sponsering you for a work visa that could lead to permanent resisdency.

Here is a link in regards to Australian Immigration

http://www.immi.gov.au/

If you are single come over here on holiday and sent out vibrational energy of love and excitment. You could meet a fellow aussie who might pop the question.

:lol3:

[gordon]

It does not matter HOW you get here to Australia, just be sure to kiss Kevin07 a.r.s.e. lol:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol:lol Thank goodness *I* was one of those people who DID vote for that fish&chip owner...

[Reunite]

It does not matter HOW you get here to Australia, just be sure to kiss Kevin07 a.r.s.e. lol:mfr_lol::mfr_lol::mfr_lol:lol Thank goodness *I* was one of those people who DID vote for that fish&chip owner...

So you like red heads? 'Please Explain'

:mfr_lol:

[borrasca2012]

...heart that australien will be under water and get serious problems at

east coast with zunamies....



...the only safe place in australia is ""there"" where ordanary people never

get a step on, "in" :naughty: pine apple :naughty:

[Anchor]

The easiest way to immigrate to Australia is through work sponsership. If you have expertise in a particular field an Employer will consider sponsering you for a work visa that could lead to permanent resisdency.

Got to be under 45 though.

[granny]

...heart that australien will be under water and get serious problems at

east coast with zunamies....



...the only safe place in australia is ""there"" where ordanary people never

get a step on, "in" :naughty: pine apple :naughty:


Perhaps there is a gap ... in my thinking, but would that be truly down under?

Gran

[Leadman]

Hey friends,

The easiest way to immigrate to Australia is through work sponsership. If you have expertise in a particular field an Employer will consider sponsering you for a work visa that could lead to permanent resisdency.

Here is a link in regards to Australian Immigration

http://www.immi.gov.au/

If you are single come over here on holiday and sent out vibrational energy of love and excitment. You could meet a fellow aussie who might pop the question.

:lol3:


Oh! You must have misunderstood my post, I could probably get to Australia o.k.

But, unfortunately, I don't seem to have the £350,000.00 to get me in with the chosen ones, heading for the "ark of Eden".

Also, I'm a bit worried about sending out too strong a vibration of love & excitement in case that gets misunderstood aswell. I would probably get arrested for being a suspected perv, tazzer'd, drug tested and then sent for evaluation to see if I was insighting terrorism, racial or religeous hatred, or breaching any Health & safety regulations, speeding, road tax, m.o.t.,outstanding parking fines, any other fines, public disorder, breach of tag, anti-social behavior..................Wow! now I'm not sure I can summon the courage to go to the supermarket for more supplies.
Maybe I should just accept the fact that without the money to get out of my current situation I'm screwed.

On the other hand, I could just go to work tomorrow as usual ...............!

[Brinty]

So you like red heads? 'Please Explain'

:mfr_lol:

NO! Please. :nono: His explanation could be more confusing than his irrelevant comment. :mfr_omg:

[gordon]

Here is a link in regards to Australian Immigration
The 'link' is called a boat. LOL. That is how other people get here.

[gordon]

NO! Please. His explanation could be more confusing than his irrelevant comment.

Just because *I* was born in this country does not mean you have a right to complain. I had always been voting for Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party, because I have always belive in 'freedom of speech'.

[Bleep!]

Running away will put most people in more danger than staying put.

Australia once was considered to be a safer location in case of global nuclear war (fallout patterns, etc.). That was long ago. It no longer applies to the world we now live in.

Fear is all over this place. FEAR

Develop a Macroscopic View - a 'Spiritual' view and you will find that there is no need to run away to safety. Wherever you go, you are always 'here'. :original:

Hmm, oh well, another post got deleted (of mine)

About that Uranium Fuel - Where and How ?

If one has enough money to invest in traveling and moving to another country then they do not need any contributions.

Most of us have families to feed. We are not single and free to roam the Earth at will, not to mention considering illegal immigration for many of us.

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[Brinty]

Just because *I* was born in this country does not mean you have a right to complain. I had always been voting for Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party, because I have always belive in 'freedom of speech'.

Honestly gordon, I was not complaining because you were born in this country. :nono: Many fine people have been born here. Freedom of speech is a very good thing to believe in. :original: It's a shame though that so many people have paid with their lives because they chose to exercise that right while they were in the wrong company. :sad:

[gordon]

It's a shame though that so many people have paid with their lives because they chose to exercise that right while they were in the wrong company.

Can you 'please explain' about that quote of what you said. Sorry, I am just wondering why.

[Blufire77]

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[Reunite]

Oh! You must have misunderstood my post, I could probably get to Australia o.k.

But, unfortunately, I don't seem to have the £350,000.00 to get me in with the chosen ones, heading for the "ark of Eden".

Also, I'm a bit worried about sending out too strong a vibration of love & excitement in case that gets misunderstood aswell. I would probably get arrested for being a suspected perv, tazzer'd, drug tested and then sent for evaluation to see if I was insighting terrorism, racial or religeous hatred, or breaching any Health & safety regulations, speeding, road tax, m.o.t.,outstanding parking fines, any other fines, public disorder, breach of tag, anti-social behavior..................Wow! now I'm not sure I can summon the courage to go to the supermarket for more supplies.
Maybe I should just accept the fact that without the money to get out of my current situation I'm screwed.

On the other hand, I could just go to work tomorrow as usual ...............!

Sounds like my weekend adventures.

My friend you can be a millionare but that still wouldn't qualify for the Immigration department. So if you raised the money through paypal donate system...great idae btw.. you then have to qualify to the strict laws here.

In saying that I would be really interested to know how Bill is swinging this one?

[Labratinaz]

Actually, Kerry will be in a similar location.

Arizona = Australia

In many many ways. Dry, desert, cactus, dry, hot....did I say hot and dry? Except during the rainy season when it is wet, humid, and wet.

Australia has Kangaroos. Darn! If only Arizona had those. Javalinas

Australia doesn't have Haboobs, though. Ha!

Kerry will enjoy those. Bill will just miss out! :lmao:

Peace

[gordon]

In saying that I would be really interested to know how Bill is swinging this one?

Quote: Bill is swinging this one?[/ : I am thankful he has left Australia, because I wouldn't want him to 'swing this one'.

[Brinty]

Can you 'please explain' about that quote of what you said. Sorry, I am just wondering why.

You mentioned freedom of speech and I was referring to the situation in some countries where it doesn't pay to voice your opinion of the government in public - particularly if that opinion is negative. The most recent example was (and possibly still is) Zimbabwe.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i liked oz and i could disappear into the woodwork pretty easy. but when the economy collapses jobs will be scrace and foreigners/illeglas get the boot ??? i nearly stayed when i was there last year. something made me comeback to the uk tho.. it was to find out about the new world order and its diabolical plans which up until that pointy i knew very little of

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

You mentioned freedom of speech and I was referring to the situation in some countries where it doesn't pay to voice your opinion of the government in public - particularly if that opinion is negative. The most recent example was (and possibly still is) Zimbabwe.
soon to be uk,oz,nz,usa,euro

[Brinty]

soon to be uk,oz,nz,usa,euro

That's the scary part of all this. What will happen first - martial law being announced publicly, or people just disappearing? :shocked:

[Tuza]

It doesn't matter if your above the ground, under the bloody water, up in a gum tree, hugging a koala or running from a brown snake, if your meant to be around you will be and if your time is up it's up.


Gordon, if your gonna go underground maybe Pauline will be good company (please explain?).

[Brinty]

It doesn't matter if your above the ground, under the bloody water, up in a gum tree, hugging a koala or running from a brown snake, if your meant to be around you will be and if your time is up it's up.




The thought that springs to mind is that life is one giant game of lotto and we each are born with a number. When our own particular number is drawn out of the barrel, that is our ticket to escape this mess we are in. :thumb_yello: We can only hope it's not a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire." :mfr_omg:

[Anchor]

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Despite that discouraging thought, there is a valuable point made. Learning morse code is a good thing to do for the survivalists on here.

Its interesting is it not, that there was a big announcement a while back about how morse code was being de-empahised and not being listened out for. Also HAM operators are not required to be profficient in it to get thier licenses these days either. More of the control agenda?


Wikipedia quote:
In speed contests between expert Morse code operators and expert cellphone SMS text messaging users, Morse code has consistently won.

:mfr_lol:

[Peer]

Hi Bill,
I don't have several 100.000 austalian dollars but I can swim.
So don't worry about me.

Peer

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

That's the scary part of all this. What will happen first - martial law being announced publicly, or people just disappearing? :shocked:
IN THE Usa IT WILL BE RED LIST REMOVALS..europe and rest of world will get silly laws made to arrest them.. i kinda had a preminition that the uk would be like 28 days later style.. not many left after nuke war.. like safer to be in the eye of the storm.. no one will look at the uk to find survivors when it has been devastated.. figured those in the know if we are lucky to survive it can kinda mad max it about or "i am legend " style..:smoke:

[stefaan]

Australia is a nice country.
Australian are nice people.
So nice, they had to close the door.
Nobody can get in, unless...

You don't stay to long.
You bring a lot of money.
You have some precious expertise.
You mary someone over there.

Damn Australians.

How come Kerry & Bill feel the need to relocate.
What do they know that we don't?
Are they more fearful than we are?
Exercise discernment they always say or write.
Just relocating because it's a nice country with nice people?
Or believing some whistleblowers that urge them to move?
Better be save than sorry?
Prepare for the worse, hope for the best?

So far the whistleblowers seem to speak against each other.
How can you decide which one is nearest to the truth?

I'm trying to understand their motivations.
Relocating is not nothing, not a small thing to do.
You must be very convinced.

[Malletzky]

I am exactly where I am at because that is where I am supposed to be! Like many of you my whole life has been nothing but me going to where my Higher-Self has led me. They are reasons I am here where I am at and if staying where I am at means end of physical existance then I am o.k. with that. I cant speak for nobody but my self. I hope if people do move they do so out of guidance and not out of fear. Love ya Brian

I agree! Feel the same way too ! Thanks for this ! :thumb_yello:

[Bill Ryan]

Hi All:

Thanks to all who have registered their personal interest. That's a lot of people, and we'll get back to you all soonest. Give us a few days!

A comment about money. It's used to buy real estate of any kind. For anyone planning to up their roots and relocate anywhere - whether it's Ecuador, Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, Argentina, British Columbia, Australia, New Zealand or Switzerland - you'll need financial resources at some level or another. It's an unavoidable fact.

Remember also that every one of us is in a separate life position. Variables include age, skills, health, marriage, children, jobs, relatives, language, nationality, financial assets. All of these come into play in some way or another. It's all a complicated equation, diferent for each of us.

Those with funds are not always the most free.
Those without funds are not always the most limited.

The entire Avalon site is dedicated to providing the maximum amount of information to everyone, whatever their position. Each of us can select whatever we feel is useful or valuable, and apply it to our own individual circumstances.

As a comment to Bleep (hi there! :original:) - our information comes from a very well-informed source who is in a position to accurately assess certain risks and probabilities.

Nothng to do with fear. The individual spearheading this project is one of the most unafraid people I have ever met. Many people would also not easily label Kerry or myself as afraid. :original:

If I go to Australia, it won't be because of fear: it's because it's a great place to be compared to many others, and if I'm part of this community it'll be because it sounds like a wonderful place to live.

Very best to all, Bill

[Norval]

Don't look at where I live, :thumbdown:




:lmao:

[stefaan]

...
...it'll be because it sounds like a wonderful place to live.
Very best to all, Bill

I've always known.
Switzerland, ok, but...
Now.
I'm just a jealous guy.

Very best to you too

PS: Better choose the right zone though (meltdown of polar caps)
http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/pmelt.gif

[Leadman]

[QUOTE=Bill Ryan;64854]Hi All:



A comment about money. It's used to buy real estate of any kind. For anyone planning to up their roots and relocate anywhere - whether it's Ecuador, Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, Argentina, British Columbia, Australia, New Zealand or Switzerland - you'll need financial resources at some level or another. It's an unavoidable fact.


Like I said "The haves versus the have nots"

I can see it all going wrong, what happened to the idea of small groups?

We all have to be prepared to help one another, to the best of our ability, if things go bad.

If this world were more prepared to help humanity rather than help themselves, we would probably be on a totally different road. I am preparing as best I can, to help wherever I can. I will share my food, heat, light etc. until it runs out and when and if it does..................... accept my fate, as, that is what I feel I am here to do.

How many fingers will you crush in the door to the "underground facility" when the "non-paid up" members of humanity are pleading to come in with you.
You can tell them to stay by the doors and remain positive, but I don't think that will convince them.
What happens when some turn up with guns? are you prepared for that.

I think you get my point, Mad max all over again................. Come to think of it, Was'nt that an Australian film.
Guess I'll keep an eye out for Mad Max 4, "Beyond the Ark" !

Namaste

[Bill Ryan]

Hi All:

A comment about money. It's used to buy real estate of any kind. For anyone planning to up their roots and relocate anywhere - whether it's Ecuador, Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, Argentina, British Columbia, Australia, New Zealand or Switzerland - you'll need financial resources at some level or another. It's an unavoidable fact.

Like I said "The haves versus the have nots"

I can see it all going wrong, what happened to the idea of small groups?

We all have to be prepared to help one another, to the best of our ability, if things go bad.

If this world were more prepared to help humanity rather than help themselves, we would probably be on a totally different road. I am preparing as best I can, to help wherever I can. I will share my food, heat, light etc. until it runs out and when and if it does..................... accept my fate, as, that is what I feel I am here to do.

How many fingers will you crush in the door to the "underground facility" when the "non-paid up" members of humanity are pleading to come in with you.
You can tell them to stay by the doors and remain positive, but I don't think that will convince them.
What happens when some turn up with guns? are you prepared for that.

I think you get my point, Mad max all over again................. Come to think of it, Was'nt that an Australian film.
Guess I'll keep an eye out for Mad Max 4, "Beyond the Ark" !

Namaste

What a stupid, small-minded, ungenerous and misguided series of remarks.

what happened to the idea of small groups?

I hope it is alive and well, all over the world. We are doing more than most to promote that.

We all have to be prepared to help one another, to the best of our ability, if things go bad.

We totally agree.

If this world were more prepared to help humanity rather than help themselves, we would probably be on a totally different road. I am preparing as best I can, to help wherever I can. I will share my food, heat, light etc. until it runs out and when and if it does..................... accept my fate, as, that is what I feel I am here to do.

We salute you for that.

How many fingers will you crush in the door to the "underground facility" when the "non-paid up" members of humanity are pleading to come in with you.


None.

[angel3553]

Oh dear! Not much love for those outside Aus then! (referring to Gordon who voted for the Fish & Chip lady.)

[angel3553]

More power to you Bill and Kerry. Much of what we do Know about our circumstances is because of the effort you both put into informing us.

Love, light and peace to all.

:harp:

[Reunite]

Hey Bill I was just curious how you will legally immigrate to Australia. Do you have family here? Your answer might be stepping stones for others

Take care :thumb_yello:

[Bleep!]

Self Bleep!

[Tuza]

I hope if Kerry is coming she is allowed to bring her beautiful cat and dog, can't leave them behind - they must love her - she is easy to love - they would miss her.

Now what other items do I need in my suitcase - Tuza looking.

[Pomguymguy]

Hi All:

Thanks to all who have registered their personal interest. That's a lot of people, and we'll get back to you all soonest. Give us a few days!

A comment about money. It's used to buy real estate of any kind. For anyone planning to up their roots and relocate anywhere - whether it's Ecuador, Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, Argentina, British Columbia, Australia, New Zealand or Switzerland - you'll need financial resources at some level or another. It's an unavoidable fact.

Remember also that every one of us is in a separate life position. Variables include age, skills, health, marriage, children, jobs, relatives, language, nationality, financial assets. All of these come into play in some way or another. It's all a complicated equation, diferent for each of us.

Those with funds are not always the most free.
Those without funds are not always the most limited.

The entire Avalon site is dedicated to providing the maximum amount of information to everyone, whatever their position. Each of us can select whatever we feel is useful or valuable, and apply it to our own individual circumstances.

As a comment to Bleep (hi there! :original:) - our information comes from a very well-informed source who is in a position to accurately assess certain risks and probabilities.

Nothng to do with fear. The individual spearheading this project is one of the most unafraid people I have ever met. Many people would also not easily label Kerry or myself as afraid. :original:

If I go to Australia, it won't be because of fear: it's because it's a great place to be compared to many others, and if I'm part of this community it'll be because it sounds like a wonderful place to live.

Very best to all, Bill


Bill is quite right ! We have ALL choosen the individual path that we are ALL on at this moment in time. We have all decided that even though things are going to get complicated, we are here right NOW - YOU can change the situation - there will be many other safe havens on the planet - So see what YOU can do ?

Snakes, Redback and Funnelweb spiders - Croc's, Shark's, 50 Trillion Blowflies all choose to be here in Australia too.

Without Bill and Kerry being in a certain place at a certain time line most of us would still be clueless about any of this information. We would not have had the opportunity to join a few dots.........

Actions speak louder than words... :welcomeani: to the FORUM

Paul R

[Anticomuna]

Australia is a nice country.
Australian are nice people.
So nice, they had to close the door.
Nobody can get in, unless...

You don't stay to long.
You bring a lot of money.
You have some precious expertise.
You mary someone over there.

Damn Australians.

How come Kerry & Bill feel the need to relocate.
What do they know that we don't?
Are they more fearful than we are?
Exercise discernment they always say or write.
Just relocating because it's a nice country with nice people?
Or believing some whistleblowers that urge them to move?
Better be save than sorry?
Prepare for the worse, hope for the best?

So far the whistleblowers seem to speak against each other.
How can you decide which one is nearest to the truth?

I'm trying to understand their motivations.
Relocating is not nothing, not a small thing to do.
You must be very convinced.


Dude, whenever I see a message from you I picture someone singing it.

[Pomguymguy]

I hope if Kerry is coming she is allowed to bring her beautiful cat and dog, can't leave them behind - they must love her - she is easy to love - they would miss her.

Now what other items do I need in my suitcase - Tuza looking.



They will have to do a spell in Quarantine -:tears: (like two other cats we flew over from U.K.)

I think it is only for a month though - not sure about coming from USA?:welcomeani:

Paul R

[m00g]

Yes with the pets you will have to get some cert's prior to relocation from a certified vet then once the animals are over here they have to spend 28 days in a FEMA camp which quite surprisingly does'nt cost too much considering it the Gov and all. That's a loose account for helping my partners sister migrate here with her dog this time last year.

I'm intrigued about our government working with other nations for OZ being a safe zone? Bill or Kerry do you have any more info about this you would kindly share?

All the best!

[pilot]

I think it sounds really cool, go for it you guys!

[Starlah]

Hey friends,

The easiest way to immigrate to Australia is through work sponsership. If you have expertise in a particular field an Employer will consider sponsering you for a work visa that could lead to permanent resisdency.

Here is a link in regards to Australian Immigration
http://www.immi.gov.au/

If you are single come over here on holiday and sent out vibrational energy of love and excitment. You could meet a fellow aussie who might pop the question.

:lol3:

Your idea only works for the Youngsters! They don't allow us SENILE oldsters in that are occasionally afflicted with DEMENTIA!
I guess I'll have to "hold my hand out for a second marriage" to get down to OZ..although next time he has to get down on bended knee, hold out some lovely flowers, and speak to me on the subject of "unconditional love"...forever and ever...
Thats a tall order for most men.

________________________________________
Kick at the Darkness until it bleeds daylight...Bruce Cockburn

[master yowe]

Hello Starlah, not all us blokes are like that. I live in Perth West Aussie and you can marry me if you like, but it may cost you plenty of dough :mfr_lol:
My suggestion to you is take a holiday down here and then just dissapear:mfr_omg: You can come and stay at my place if you want. We'll
look after you darling, not a problem. :wub2:


LOVE AND COSMIC CHRIST LIGHT TO ALL

[Leadman]

[QUOTE=Bill Ryan;65233]What a stupid, small-minded, ungenerous and misguided series of remarks.



Bill,
I can see this getting in to a "sticks & stones" thing here, I have obviously pushed a few buttons.

Firstly, I salute you for the work that YOU & Kerry do, without reservation.

Secondly, my post was not supposed to be a personal attack, far from it, it was aimed at getting people visiting this forum to THINK SERIOUSLY about the POTENTIAL coming events and be practical about what they are realistically able to achieve, based on their own situation.
As things are now, there are those who only want to take from others and I feel that those who have had the foresight to prepare will run the risk of being mugged by those who have not, by force if neccessary. Or to look at it another way, the French Resistance would not have been able to survive if they had all grouped in one big village.

I wish only the best for you, I hope when you finally decide to settle, that it all works out well for you.
You are an eternal traveller Bill, I think you always will be.

Bon Voyage!

[stefaan]

Dude, whenever I see a message from you I picture someone singing it.

That would be nice. Why not?
Let's all start singing a little more often.
Very efficient therapy to lift up our spirit.
Good idea, Anticomuna

"Anticomuna", you're against community?
Hope not.

Dude, whenever I see a message from you I picture someone singing it.
Maybe, it's because my english is limited?
It's not my native language.

[arcora]

xxx

[dataeast]

What's funny is that what is going to happen on earth is more like a controlled demolition.

The controllers of the demolition will make sure that the 'ark' is also destroyed.

Unless, of course, the 'ark' is filled with 1,000 of their own. Hmmm.

Where does one get fuel for a personal nuclear power plant?

Australia supplies Japan, Russia and China (and anyone with the money) with gold cake. We've got tons of the stuff "outback". We have the worlds largest reserves.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf48.html

I wonder what kind of reactor it is because it would be worthwhile in investing in a "meltdown" proof one like the German "pebble-bed" design reactor. There is a working model in China.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s1854362.htm

...Although it would be infinitely better to get off the uranium trip altogether.

[arcora]

xxx

[dataeast]

Are you saying that I can just call someone in Australia, wire them a little cash and they'll fed-ex me some enriched uranium so I can build a nuclear power plant in my back yard?

Think.

No, that was a casual reply, I didn't realize that you had something so specific in mind. So, what do you think or are thinking of? Please, enlighten me about your conspiracy.

[arcora]

xxx

[gordon]

Are you saying that I can just call someone in Australia, wire them a little cash and they'll fed-ex me some enriched uranium so I can build a nuclear power plant in my back yard?

Kevin07 wouldn't care which country is buying that stuff... I'm sure if a country paid enough $$$ Kevin07 would do just about anything! I mean just about _anything_ for more $$$. Pauline Hanson would of made a better (Prime Minister - President) then Kevin07. Atleast she couldn't make things any worse then what is already happening.

[dataeast]

It is no conspiracy per se.

Think about who is allowed to power a nuclear plant - certainly it isn't average citizens (no matter how wealthy).

Oh, yeah sure, that I can agree with. I generalize when I think the question is a general one. My mistake...:naughty:

Although, the truly wealthy may have channels that are above the laws imposed on ordinary citizens or "enemies," but in the context of the "Ark" which might be a futurists social experiment, such ideas are not out of the question, at least as I see it pertaining to this example. My point being that Australia was formerly a "nuclear free" country (can't remember that exact date of its change of status, maybe some time in the eighties) and the only nuclear facilities were scientific in nature (Sydney?). The pro-nuclear status might encourage semi-private facilities, such as the "Ark" because it "incidentally" is pro-nuclear which might be an aim in itself. Projects like this are still under regulation by the government.

[arcora]

xxx

[dataeast]

Kevin07 wouldn't care which country is buying that stuff... I'm sure if a country paid enough $$$ Kevin07 would do just about anything! I mean just about _anything_ for more $$$. Pauline Hanson would of made a better (Prime Minister - President) then Kevin07. Atleast she couldn't make things any worse then what is already happening.

It was the Liberals (Conservative Right) who sold off government assets to begin with. The government is only a regulatory body now, I mean who owns all the utilities in AU? The Tel Co's? And who introduced statewide sponsored gambling and other mind numbing and socially degenerative institutions. Who was kowtowing to Bush as the buildings fell promising coalition support without any consultation of the people of Australia? It was certainly a stroke of genius to push a free trade agreement with the US at that time much to our detriment.

Pauline was dropped even by the Right of which she represented and was surely used, but she created even more division in labor whose constituents were immigrants or first generation immigrants because she wanted to re-enact the White Australia Policy that we exorcised in the 70's. Her popularity polls never warranted the media attention to begin with and now she's "Dancing With The Stars"--unbelievable. No failed political figure has enjoyed such media success.

She helped to serve the Liberals (Conservative Right), but her policies or lack thereof were overshadowed by the fact that she embezzled funds from her own party(!!!).
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/comments/0,23836,23601959-952,00.html

In light of this Mr. Rudd appears as a savior in this bipartisan plot.

[dataeast]

Bingo. And government approved, no?

Yes.

How conncected must one be in order to acquire approval for a personal nuclear power plant?

Aren't all nuclear projects worldwide monitored and controlled by the UN?

Wars are fought over this technology.

Yeah............. very good questions.:wink2:

Depends on what the UN represents, hey.

[Harper]

Wasn't it understood and accepted by the founders of this forum that "going underground" was not the right path. Regardless of any personal opinion, wasn't it insinuted that the trouble makers of the future were the people who went underground .................It would take too long to look at all the vidoes again to find that statement but it was there.

Agree or don't agree with any of the future predictions, if someone who has the ear of most on this forum does an aboutface should they give you a clue as to why. No malice meant to Bill he has the right to live wherever he wants but this doesn't seem to make any logical sense based on the former ideas being presented.

[bill7907]

Bill Ryan is just moving to Australia.
Is the Ark an underground base?


From what I have heard there are only a few who will have access to those underground bases ; the priviledged people in other words.

Robert Dean said he has a "ticket" if anything happens to hide in one of the underground bases in the USA.

[Kate]

Bill Ryan is just moving to Australia.
Is the Ark an underground base?


From what I have heard there are only a few who will have access to those underground bases ; the priviledged people in other words.

Robert Dean said he has a "ticket" if anything happens to hide in one of the underground bases in the USA.




The 'ARK' is a metaphor..a nickname from what I understand from Bill. It is a 'vision' as such for a future 'intentional' community. This place has the infrastructure prepared and is now at the stage of attracting interested people looking to invest.

There are many intentional communities around the world and we can all get inspiration to create our own if this is our desire.....

peace
kate

[gordon]

Kate whois a Mod from the UK...why would she wanting to post in a thread that has nothing to do with her and the Uk. Sorry, I am just wondering. Australian's Only!

[m00g]

It doesn't matter if your above the ground, under the bloody water, up in a gum tree, hugging a koala or running from a brown snake, if your meant to be around you will be and if your time is up it's up.
.


Tuza, You hit the nail on the head in one eloquent sentence ;)

I live in Melbourne now with an alternate unplanned place in central vic to retreat to but in reality no one knows what the ultimate scenario will be. In saying so we have one fact and that is that humans are running a muck on this great energy ball known as earth with little care. Australia has been so damaged by the Banker System in an environmental sense its damn sad.


As Tuza said "It doesn't matter if your above the ground, under the bloody water, up in a gum tree, hugging a koala or running from a brown snake, if your meant to be around you will be and if your time is up it's up."

Stop worrying about ppl have this or that, it doesn't matter.... Its just a ride ;)

Love and all the best!

mooger ;)

[Merlyn]

=
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Wasn't it understood and accepted by the founders of this forum that "going underground" was not the right path. Regardless of any personal opinion, wasn't it insinuted that the trouble makers of the future were the people who went underground .................It would take too long to look at all the vidoes again to find that statement but it was there.

Harper,

Extract from Bill's post at:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=63374#post63374

The 'Ark' is currently envisaged to include a shielded underground facility with hydroponics, technical and craft workshops, exercise and recreation facilities, a school, a comprehensive library, communication facilities, medical facilities, the most advanced water recycling technology, its own micro-economy and democratic structure, and (believe it or not) its own very clean mini nuclear reactor which will generate enough self-sufficient power for at least fifty years.

I think Bill and Kerry questioned the wisdom of going underground if certain
scenarios occurred.

=
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[Bleep!]

bleeped!

[m00g]

Kate whois a Mod from the UK...why would she wanting to post in a thread that has nothing to do with her and the Uk. Sorry, I am just wondering. Australian's Only!


Hey mate,

Check out her profile ;)

Maybe you missed the part where 'her location' is stated as being " looking for somewhere in the next 12 months" or something to that accord ;)

All the best Gordon,

[m00g]

Not to mention the refinement, processing, etc.
and all the water to cool the plant... And the expertise to maintain and operate it. The list goes on.

Confusion, but that is to be expected here.


What are you guys hoping for?

Bill and Kerry came out and made a statement which they felt good about, you are no different to them, as am I or any other piece of matter in this univerese.

Bill and Kerry have served in waking people up along with their interviewee's. It doesn't matter what their financial situation or location may be, just like "you" they will ofc try to find a place which resonates with their being at the present time.

Its not the time to be worrying about what money will buy you to be frank, its about your kind heart... something money cannot buy and never will be able to buy.


Its all OK ;) ;) ;)

moogercake

[Harper]

Dear Sm Neill or Merlyn :-)

Yes I did read the announcement but what I was referrig to was in a video interview, it was a witness who said that the good nordics or whatever you would like to call then, tall blonds etc... did not go underground, that it was the current PTB that went with their tickets and it was not the path to follow.

Anyone else remember this or am I now always dreaming :-) Just wondering - no judgement, they can come live on my roof if they wish, I would like to know why they are changed opinions, if in fact they have

[Kate]

Kate whois a Mod from the UK...why would she wanting to post in a thread that has nothing to do with her and the Uk. Sorry, I am just wondering. Australian's Only!



Ohh? I wasnt aware that I had to be Australian to post here? :shocked:

Jeeez...and I was only clarifying something! hardly a crime eh? :wink2:

[shybastid]

Good Thread..

In my opinion...Preparing safeguards for the future is just plane logical.
If you have the means to choose where you want to live over the next 5 year transition,with a little more security and/or at least some Peace of Mind,
Way to Go.
Out of all the "whistle blowers" Ive read,George Greene has been the most accurate about coming events.Deacon is just a darn good read.
Too many others speculate with no real back up.
Everyone, however, cant ALL be wrong.Their not ALL right either.
Pick and choose.
Thats why Im here,to help me pick and choose with a "little" more sense of reassurance.
I HOPE I dont fry by Nuclear War...I HOPE I dont die by a planet coming too close.
I HOPE that 2009,2010,11,12 AND 13 go by without any Global Catastrophes.


Peace Out

Bastid

[sunflower]

Develop a Macroscopic View - a 'Spiritual' view and you will find that there is no need to run away to safety. Wherever you go, you are always 'here'.

Thanks, Bleep, for the reassurance. That's exactly what my husband and I plan to do. Work on the heart chakra and be there for family and friends and pet. I realize there is a reason why I am here at this time and hopefully it's my last big mental, spiritual and emotional test.

This is not 'sour grapes' but I don't exactly fancy ending up underground for an unspecified amount of time. I love the outdoors too much.

[dataeast]

What are you guys hoping for?

Bill and Kerry came out and made a statement which they felt good about, you are no different to them, as am I or any other piece of matter in this univerese.

Bill and Kerry have served in waking people up along with their interviewee's. It doesn't matter what their financial situation or location may be, just like "you" they will ofc try to find a place which resonates with their being at the present time.

Its not the time to be worrying about what money will buy you to be frank, its about your kind heart... something money cannot buy and never will be able to buy.


Its all OK ;) ;) ;)

moogercake

Actually, I did the work to wake myself up. And that was not a personal criticism of anyone here. Please don't confuse what I have not said, feel free to review what I have posted.

This has to do with the "Ark" and the type of reactor and how it operates; the infrastructure; the expertise; and potential danger related with its use.

A conventional nuclear reactor (PWR) operates like a prolonged bomb explosion and in a planned environment there needs to exist the infrastructure to support it, so to some degree dependency. One major problem is that without that expertise it will not necessarily go out with a fizz, so it binds you towards a particular future, there are the long term aspects to be considered, for instance, when the occupants no longer are aware of the underlying technology that has been taken for granted. Ask yourself whether you are capable of fulfilling all the aspects of survival given the knowledge you have now. What I am asking is whether nuclear power simplifies life or complicates it, particularly when the location is also suited to other forms of power.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressurized_water_reactor

Why I mentioned the pebble reactor was because in the event of failure it operates in roughly an inverse fashion, so is relatively safe, it has passive safeguards based on the actual physics of the reactor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor

But as Bleep! suggested there is a whole lot more involved than just flicking a switch that makes it "dirty" if the project aims at being independent and long term.

Again, to be clear, I have no criticisms about the choices that people make about where they live, but also what I outline above is the reality of nuclear power and not meant to insult anyone or offend one's choices.

:wink2:

[Brinty]

It was the Liberals (Conservative Right) who sold off government assets to begin with. The government is only a regulatory body now, I mean who owns all the utilities in AU? The Tel Co's? And who introduced statewide sponsored gambling and other mind numbing and socially degenerative institutions. Who was kowtowing to Bush as the buildings fell promising coalition support without any consultation of the people of Australia? It was certainly a stroke of genius to push a free trade agreement with the US at that time much to our detriment.

Pauline was dropped even by the Right of which she represented and was surely used, but she created even more division in labor whose constituents were immigrants or first generation immigrants because she wanted to re-enact the White Australia Policy that we exorcised in the 70's. Her popularity polls never warranted the media attention to begin with and now she's "Dancing With The Stars"--unbelievable. No failed political figure has enjoyed such media success.

She helped to serve the Liberals (Conservative Right), but her policies or lack thereof were overshadowed by the fact that she embezzled funds from her own party(!!!).
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/comments/0,23836,23601959-952,00.html

In light of this Mr. Rudd appears as a savior in this bipartisan plot.

I agree with all that you say dataeast but I doubt that gordon could understand :nono: because you use some big long words with more than two syllables. :sad:

[Brinty]

Ohh? I wasnt aware that I had to be Australian to post here? :shocked:

Jeeez...and I was only clarifying something! hardly a crime eh? :wink2:

Don't worry about his comments Kate, he's inclined to lose his place on the page when he forgets to take his medication. :naughty:

[dataeast]

I agree with all that you say dataeast but I doubt that gordon could understand :nono: because you use some big long words with more than two syllables. :sad:

I had expected a rebuttal, now I know why.:original:

Cheers

[Dantheman62]

Ah Brinty, once again you make me laugh,lol!,oh s...t, I'm not from Australia I better run,see ya!

[Tuza]

He is dry isn't he.:original:

[Brinty]

Re the topic of nuclear power generators - man has survived on this earth for some millions of years. It has only been in the last 130 years that he has had the use of electricity.

It's a patently obvious fact then than we do not require electricity to survive. I suggest that time could be well spent in searching out information on how to do something as simple as learning to make fire without the use of matches or accelerants.

It may well be that this one ability could be the difference between survival and extinction for the human rac. Fire for warmth in cold weather, cooking food and sterilizing utensils. Not to mention keeping wild animals at bay. :original:

[Brinty]

Ah Brinty, once again you make me laugh,lol!,oh s...t, I'm not from Australia I better run,see ya!

Chicken! :naughty:

[Dantheman62]

Gordon's chasing me,ouch!, damn potholes!:stretcher:

[Brinty]

Gordon's chasing me,ouch!, damn potholes!:stretcher:

Them's not potholes, them's wombat holes. :shocked:

[Dantheman62]

Ah you truly are the shining light in the fog of life! Cheers to ya!

[Brinty]

Oh Dan, flattery will get you anywhere. How would you like to be president of my fan club? :king:

[Relin]

Bill in his statement said "ts own very clean mini nuclear reactor which will generate enough self-sufficient power for at least fifty years."

Anyone who is even considering building such a thing would immediately shutdown by the govt.... Australia may have the nuclear fuel but it is tightly controlled. I wish people would really consider what they are saying before writing it down..

I for one would not go to such a facility - i think i would be sick from all the "love, peace and harmony". Nothing like a bit of chaos... I like the excitement of an argument.

[zorgon]

The 'link' is called a boat. LOL. That is how other people get here.

The 'boat' is what you use to get to China... I prefer Quantas

Got a special now... 695 from SF and 895 from NY

350,000 pounds? :shocked: Does that include the kool aid?

So will the Australian ground crew be invited or will they also have to pay several thousand to join?

This deal is sending up a lot of red flags... I think I need to do a little 'noodling'

[Tuza]

I think it's several hundred thousand dollars to be exact, if I am wrong please reply.:original:

Where is Waterman.

[THE eXchanger]

Where is Waterman.
Yes, where is "waterman"...
i am concerned,
esp. since, he did NOT cross paths with me,
as, he was supposed to...
he just sort of disappeared ???
there was something important,
we needed to talk about...
so, where is he ???

[THE eXchanger]

i think,
if i was going to relocate...
i would do it,
by, "moving" NOT anchoring "myself"
to a specific local
my guides, say CANADA,
is very safe,
and, that i will be living between
more than one place,
as, many as three--personally, i love the sound of that

i love the four seasons (although, fall, i do NOT like)
hall-oween (is special) tonight --is a special eve 1-3-1

also, NOT so sure, i would want to be in a country
with so many poisionous animals & snakes,
poisionous spiders, and crocs, etc.,
with a lot of heat / and, dust storms etc.,
high humidity/or very very dry ...
makes me kind of wonder,
what is the ideal place ???

in canada, other than rattlesnakes,
we are pretty safe :)

and, i might be given an interesting estate,
to develop, as, a light centre,
without any investment
required in it, and, it was built in the 20's
(i think it will hold about 78 people-3 seasons on the year)
winter might be a little bit harsh, for those,
who do NOT know how to live, in lower temps,
although the main lodge, is OK - year round,
and, it holding 33

i hear SW is selling is place in australia...
and, he is always way ahead of his time ;)
i wonder where he plans to relocate to ???

brighest blessings to all
good luck with the ark ...
does it float ?

love
susan
the eXchanger

[Tuza]

I hope he is alright, if you out there Waterman is it possible for contact, a bit worried about ya mate.

Yes - there are a lot of nasty things out here eXchanger - up north you've got the brown snakes, which can actually chase you to bite on occasion, then there are those pesky cane toads that our animals eat and die, not forgetting the funnel web spiders, the red back spiders, taipans and other snakes, scorpions, the list goes on - maybe we can put some of the illuminati in the outback and see if they can make it - just a thought.

[Bleep!]

Dreams

http://www.moolelo.com/australia-similar.html

http://users.orac.net.au/~mhumphry/aborigin.html (http://users.orac.net.au/%7Emhumphry/aborigin.html)

easier to link then to type but many do not like to go to a bunch of links - understood


Why is this posted? Related to survival and how did they manage to survive for so many millennia?
Did they have electricity or underground safe havens?

[arcora]

Re: 60,000 years of living .... and now ?

Having spent many years living in Hawaii, I met and worked with a lot of native Hawaiians. Their history has been thouroughly scrubbed clean to portray them in a certain light. A few will admit it - but most won't because it isn't politically expedient.

The 'beautiful' and ancient Hawaiian culture that is so 'prized' was actually a cruel dictatorship where the very few enjoyed everything and the masses had little or nothing.

One example: The average Hawaiian wasn't even allowed to go to the beach (under pain of death). The beaches were reserved exclusively for royalty.

Their religions were cruel and they practised human sacriice.

Haven't ever met an aborigine though.

Not sure why this is posted here.

[Tuza]

Thank you Bleep for the links but most white Australians know all about the aboriginal history. Thank you anyway.

[Aussie Babe]

I have a book that is copyrighted 2003 called "The Shift Of The Ages" by a guy called Jean Nemeyeth. It is set in the year 2008 :original: and is a fascinating read.
After reading Bills explanation of the "ARK" the first thing that struck me was how like this book it was :wink2: But having said that I have a lot of red flags waving at me. :naughty:

Not sure what to make of it!
The book can be obtained from www.wakemanpublishing.com

Peace to you all
Barb

[Bleep!]

This was not directed at Australians at all.
It is easy to see how an Australian might assume that.


It is about survival methods and technology.
It just happens to be, by coincidence, that the Ark mentioned in this thread happens to be planned for Australia - the same location as one of the oldest known still surviving human groups. Maybe only a Handful still have knowledge of the ancients - maybe none are now left to learn from.

Again, coincidence.... nothing more.

:original:

[Bleep!]

I have a book that is copyrighted 2003 called "The Shift Of The Ages" by a guy called Jean Nemeyeth. It is set in the year 2008 :original: and is a fascinating read.
After reading Bills explanation of the "ARK" the first thing that struck me was how like this book it was :wink2: But having said that I have a lot of red flags waving at me. :naughty:

Not sure what to make of it!
The book can be obtained from www.wakemanpublishing.com (http://www.wakemanpublishing.com)

Peace to you all
Barb

Interesting find. Thank you.

also

for fun only:
" a 26,664-year galactic cycle "

2 + 4

[Tuza]

I am starting to accept your hypothesis that there are no end days, just IS Bleep.

Thank you for sharing.:original:

[100thmonkey]

Wow, I've been thinking I'll just have to die if the world goes down, since I can't afford to build a bunker, stock up supplies, etc. I'm kind of okay with that, but I would like to see the day ET's are openly disclosed...

Now I find Bill is going to be living in a shelter next door?!
:mfr_omg: :welcomeani:

Not sure how the nuclear reactor is going to happen though?

Duncan Rhoads too? Crikey, I read Nexus every month, I listen to Barry and Duncan on RadioNexus every episode.
It's blowing my mind that they're all coming here - to survive?!

I still don't have money to buy property in the Ark though.
D'oh, missed it by that much...
:lmfao:

[zorgon]

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..-. . .- .-. :cup: .- -. -.. :cup: -- --- .-. . :cup: ..-. . .- .-.


DISGUSTED
WITH
THIS
FORUM
DIRECTIoN
FEAR AND MORE FEAR


Interesting comment .... . -. .-.-.-- , -.. . .- -.-. --- -.


:welcomeani:

[crowmirror]

.

[raulduke]

Interesting comment .... . -. .-.-.-- , -.. . .- -.-. --- -.




So this is the famed H. Deacon?

If so then welcome and .--. .-.. . .- ... . .-. .- .. ... . -.-- --- ..- .-. ...- .. -... .-. .- - .. --- -. - .... .. ... .. ... -.-. .-. . . .--. -.--

[warngen]

I'm honestly not WORRIED about anything. Not about 2012, Nibiru, Illuminati, NWO, chemtrails, etc. Why worry. Worrying will not change anything that is made to happen. It will only add to the problems you already have. Don't get me wrong. Preparedness is necessary. Be prepared is one of the BSA's most important slogans. It is what it is, and we will have to learn to deal with it when it comes. IMO, we must also help others deal with it as well and show the utmost compassion for one another in the coming times, and in the now. M2C

Thanks.

[Steve_G]

If so then welcome and .--. .-.. . .- ... . .-. .- .. ... . -.-- --- ..- .-. ...- .. -... .-. .- - .. --- -. - .... .. ... .. ... -.-. .-. . . .--. -.--

It is indeed, and it took me ages to translate it too.

[Anchor]

hardly a crime eh? :wink2:

No, but that used to be a good way to get to come out here.

[dreb13]

It is indeed, and it took me ages to translate it too.


Ages!? Use the internets and ages become seconds.

http://www.qbit.it/lab/morse.php (type text and covert to morse)

http://www.qbit.it/lab/demorse.php (copy and paste morse to see what people are saying in the posts above)

[m00g]

Code tags work great for...

.-.. ...-- ...-- --... / ... .--. . .- -.-


:roll1:

[Steve_G]

Ages!? Use the internets and ages become seconds.

http://www.qbit.it/lab/morse.php (type text and covert to morse)

http://www.qbit.it/lab/demorse.php (copy and paste morse to see what people are saying in the posts above)

Ah, that'll be where I went wrong then- I did it manually. :original:

[dutchie]

What a stupid, small-minded, ungenerous and misguided series of remarks.



I hope it is alive and well, all over the world. We are doing more than most to promote that.



We totally agree.



We salute you for that.



None.

How rude, your true self seems to be showing. No your right you'll not have any crushed fingers for the doors are already closed! Sleep and eat well Bill for there might not be another tomorrow.

[herbivore]

someone save me a seat!

[dutchie]

Hey Bill I was just curious how you will legally immigrate to Australia. Do you have family here? Your answer might be stepping stones for others

Take care :thumb_yello:

Just a question; on the news a Doctor from the us was asked to come to aussie to do some work for a few years, two I think and I guess he wanted to stay,live and work but now he is asked to leave because his son/daughter is very ill and would be a strain on the health system?? any info on this reunite you could add, he could be from uk do not know.
Sooooooooooo if he can't stay how can Bill And Kerry?????:original:
And by the way Bill is no spring chicken.

[Tuza]

Well, I don't know about all the rest of you, but I have had two visions which have been confirmed, and my psychic ability has kicked in on at least one occasion here about the forum and I was right about that. I don't get them often.

I will tell you one thing which I have said before: it doesn't matter whether your underground and feel safe, or anywhere else if your meant to go, then that's it, show's over,

I will be following my path exactly how I want to and if I pass on - then great - I go back home.:trumpet:

Please follow your own heart and don't be duped by anyone. Remember the X-Files signature - well remember that and follow your own path wherever that may lead.

[TranceAm]

Well, I don't know about all the rest of you, but I have had two visions which have been confirmed, and my psychic ability has kicked in on at least one occasion here about the forum and I was right about that. I don't get them often.

I will tell you one thing which I have said before: it doesn't matter whether your underground and feel safe, or anywhere else if your meant to go, then that's it, show's over,

I will be following my path exactly how I want to and if I pass on - then great - I go back home.:trumpet:

Please follow your own heart and don't be duped by anyone. Remember the X-Files signature - well remember that and follow your own path wherever that may lead.

Nothing can happen to you. That wouldn't happen anyway.
The truth is out there.. And at the end of the path, you will know it. You will BE it.
And then you will remember this time, and this forum..... And what minds you will enable contact with, and what minds you will not want to be infected by.

:wink2:

[dutchie]

Well, I don't know about all the rest of you, but I have had two visions which have been confirmed, and my psychic ability has kicked in on at least one occasion here about the forum and I was right about that. I don't get them often.

I will tell you one thing which I have said before: it doesn't matter whether your underground and feel safe, or anywhere else if your meant to go, then that's it, show's over,

I will be following my path exactly how I want to and if I pass on - then great - I go back home.:trumpet:

Please follow your own heart and don't be duped by anyone. Remember the X-Files signature - well remember that and follow your own path wherever that may lead.

your right:original:

[Starlah]

There is a fair amount of us 50 plus on this Forum...I have no plans to join any so-called "Ark" so take heart old pals there probably will be many of us who are meant to either survive on this Planet Earth "if the Ship sinks" or better yet we will be doing an "ascending trip" to 4D with the youngsters!

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Personally you could not make me enter ANY underground "safe haven".

God knows what controls them, and I mean really control them.

Accept your fate, life is just a ride.

Going underground literally is not an answer, and I have never heard of this alleged underground ark being built in Australia. Any more info on this? Sounds like some kind of cover for as Aussie Dulce base.

Besides can you imagine being stuck in some underground cavern for god knows how long, with god knows what kind of people...or lizards.

This whole ark thing is again here to remind you and I, we must FEAR and prepare for the WORST. Doom and gloom. Don't fear or pander to these blatant attempts to 'secure your safety, for your own good'. The biblical reference in calling it an ark is suspect in itself.

:)

wZn

[THE eXchanger]

ahh...it iS a time to wander and, wonder ;)

why be anchored to anywhere in particular

i know i do NOT like the idea
of going and building something,
and, then, what if, someone else, comes along,
and, pushes you out of it

cayce, always said "ontario/canada"
would be safe - and, we sure do have
lots of fresh lakes/rivers/and, streams etc.,

you can always build a tropical oasis inside
& it is amasing what can be done with
wind power / and, solar polar

i would rather deal with wind / sun / cold (part of the year) and, a dry climate

than, to deal with hot / humid &
places with a lot of dust & lots of dangerous animals - and, poisonous snakes

maybe everyone should move to canada ?
we have rattlesnakes & bears & wolves !!!

love/susan
the eXchanger

[ghglenn]

I think it is humorous to see people scrambling for a safe place to hide. Sometimes I wonder if that alone is the major play. The sheer chaos that is going to develop over the next few years is probably enough to clean the slate. Preparedness is good, however escape seems kind of futile and empty. Just my .02.

[Reunite]

Just a question; on the news a Doctor from the us was asked to come to aussie to do some work for a few years, two I think and I guess he wanted to stay,live and work but now he is asked to leave because his son/daughter is very ill and would be a strain on the health system?? any info on this reunite you could add, he could be from uk do not know.
Sooooooooooo if he can't stay how can Bill And Kerry?????:original:
And by the way Bill is no spring chicken.

Hey Dutchie,

Here is an article refering to the doctor I believe you are talking about

http://www.expatica.com/de/articles/news/Australia_evicts_German_doctor_over_disabled_son.h tml

Bill still hasn't answered my question on what grounds is he legally immigrating to Australia so all is still a mystery given Australia's tough immigration laws

[Avid]

Hey Dutchie,

Here is an article refering to the doctor I believe you are talking about

http://www.expatica.com/de/articles/news/Australia_evicts_German_doctor_over_disabled_son.h tml

Bill still hasn't answered my question on what grounds is he legally immigrating to Australia so all is still a mystery given Australia's tough immigration laws

Perhaps they are taking viable business to Australia - surely that is allowed!

[Alcyone11]

People like me, who are older than 50, can forget it. The same applies when looking for a job: try to get hired when 50+
The same mentality seems to prevail also in the "survival business"

It is sad, but true.
But growing older in survival-mode is not something I would like either...remember the Middle Ages or before, people did not get older than their 40ties mostly, having to deal with very difficult circumstances in comparison with the times we are probably heading for.
Except for the Australian Ark maybe ... young and rich http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/images/smilies/tears.gif
I am not negative, just realistic.

[THE eXchanger]

in russia, when commist rule ended
many of the people, did NOT know how to survive
they were spoon fed,
given money/and, given shelter,
and, yet, when they were freed,
almost all of them
over the age of 55 died -- they did NOT know
how to do, to be

and, yet, in the "sea of choices"
where you can choose your spoon
where you can choose your nest
the possibility to be tricked, and to be duped
is much greater,
the proof is, that having more and more protection
is only a guise, to make you feel safer and safer
and, yet, you are NOT more free/anymore,
than, you are more safe ?
it requires, that men/and, women
live again, with virtues, they are true to

is there so much, outside of ourselves,
to lay the blame on, or, is the sum total of all the nonsense, all the stuff, that we have allowed ???

therefore, the responsibility starts with self

it factors completely into the equation,
of what we allow

if we want these changes--then,
we must do things -- like get around those
who are elected "by the people" , "for the people"
and, squeeze them
so, the choices that they give forth
are the choices, that reflect 100% of the people
who elected them

how many of these people exist
in the usa (under 400???)
and, how many are in the population (over 400,000,000)
(this is .00000001 %)
so, the solution, it must be rebuilt out of community
where it is "an ark" or, a whole city, or a whole town
that takes its power, and, brings about the change

if you want to get rid of a weed,
you must get rid of all its roots,
and, it is NOT a truth,
that all of the serpent group
or, all of the dragon group
are EVIL and, bad
this is NOT a truth

if you want to find out the truth
you must go to the "old rocks"
and, there, you must sit, to discover the truth
you must mine the "earth"
and, what is beneath the "water"
and, watch the formulations/and, transits of the "stars"
that is, if you wish
to discover the "truth",
the "real" truth.

you must, toss away, all organisations
that tell you, what to believe, as truth
esp. the ones, that tell you to do so blindly
and, without facts or truth, to back them up
so much, has been altered/and, changed
and, wooven, into existence, by the 7 roles of beings
who are here on this earth...
operating in negative poles,
instead of weaving in positive poles,
ironically, since we all, go around many times,
we are all here, because, we have wooven
both positively, and, negatively.

how is it, today, that you are weaving ???

love/susan
the eXchanger

[Pinkorchid]

Hi all I'm a new member and just feeling my way around here , this thread caught my attention as I am one of the Austra-alians , interesting word play, wonder if it means anything?

Sometimes if feel that we have gathered lots of knowledge and sometimes a little wisdom, but neglect to join the dots, by that I mean that we know we are immortal souls yet we fear death sooo much. If we knew categorically that we lived many lives, that sort of dilutes the drama's of this reality doesn't?

Isn't everything as it should be? Didn't we play a role in creating this manifestation? And aren't we exactly where we are suppose to be anyway?

So won't we blink our eyes and say " that was an interesting journey"
In everything there is a 50/50 chance why do we always choose the option of loss rather than the chance of success? and choose fear over hope??:cup:

[rosie]

We each have our own personal journey to take. Not one of them will be the same.

Bill & Kerry, please be careful. Too many people now know where you will be living.

love & peace

[THE eXchanger]

australians in a lot of ways,
have always been way ahead of the times,
personal development - is huge there
consciousness on personal products without toxins - is huge there, however,
i got to wonder why stuart wilde
is selling his place there ? and, moving !!!
he thinks, his place will still be standing in the end,
so, why would he be selling it ???

[Mystic Pilgrim]

It could be any ark for that matter – whether it is on the top of the mountain or the deepest, remotest jungle in some highly unexplored area of the globe.

I think the most important thing to prepare for is “preparing ourselves” -- emotionally, mentally and spiritually. Us, the people we care for, even the friends and acquaintances who agree to go with us and share our safe havens.

There is so much negativity and “doomsday scenarios” in this thread that I personally think we are missing the point. And I think the point here is – personally for me – is that this 2012 thing is a “test” -- a test of not only our endurance and our sanity, but also how we relate to people in times of great danger and tribulation. And how we can still be HUMANE and GIVING while already in danger.

We need our Gods, our Oneness not only with Our Creator or Spirit, but also the rest of humanity who, in these dire times, will hopefully band together to live through such a catastrophe. And I sincerely and personally hope that catastrophe will not have to materialize.