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[Chinacat]

Hello and thank you for the messages. Can you explain this statement?

The dire events of 20 June 2008


I am not sure what you are referencing.

[RubyTuesday]

Hello and thank you for the messages. Can you explain this statement?

The dire events of 20 June 2008


I am not sure what you are referencing.

The Georgia/Russia conflict. It's not over at all, just the beginning it seems.

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[Chinacat]

The USA and Russia were at the brink of nuclear war on 20 June 2008.

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/08_Nukes/080624.US-Russia.war.html

With all due respect to the posters here, Steve Quayle is un reliable based on previous misinformation from him. He has shown me he exagerates and often makes stuff up to fill air time. I believe there might have been an incident on 20 June, but if Quayle says he saw a missle launch and exoctic craft, I would wager that is his need for attention getting in the way of something that might be the truth. Namely that there was an incident on 20 june.

So please do not think I am doubting of the whole report. Just whatever quaytle says, not the easily verified radio traffic.

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Agreed. There are particular details of that report that beg credibility. Those fringe details are not anything I would advocate or defend.

I think the important point should not be lost by all the clutter of disinformation and exaggerations, and that is this:

There was unusual activity on 20 June 2008 involving the nuclear forces of the USA and Russia.

The current breakdown in US-Russian relations and the overt display of Russian conventional military capbability in response to western expansion deep into the Russian spheres of influence is consistent with a major change of policy in Moscow to oppose the unipolar paradigm of the US being "the sole world super power."

The US has overplayed its hand and the Russians made it clear they have had enough.

The rise of the Shanghai Cooperation Council as an eastern alliance to counter balance the West is altering the geopolitical lanscape and making old assumptions irrelevant.

Russia and China have reminded the US they possess nuclear weapons and that they will not standby idly if the US attacks Iran.

Yes, good read. I think a faction in the US is trying to pick a fight to help McCain and Israel. I also think Wall street needs a war to distract from their on going collapse.

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[Andre]

The cancellation of 2008 Presidential Election

Never since the crisis of the American Civil War has the potential existed for the unprecedented cancellation of the Presidential election in the USA. There are a number of reasons for this:

1) The threat of a WMD attack to influence the outcome of an election is ever present. It happened in Madrid, Spain just prior to the Spanish election, resulting in the removal of a strong supporter of the Bush Administration. Soon afterwards, all Spanish troops in Iraq were withdrawn. It is very conceivable, in the event of another 911 type of attack prior to the US election, that Bush/Cheney would implement the COG, indefinitely “postpone” the election and suspend the Congress and US Supreme Court from convening out of concern “for the individual safety” of members of the Legislative and Judicial branches of government.


2) Members of the 911 Congressional Commission charge that little has been done since 2001 to protect the nation against a WMD attack involving nuclear, chemical or biological weapons.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080909/ap_on_go_ot/wmd_report;_ylt=Anj2znPBkyoGZ.tdIRkV9NkazJV4

"The threat of a new, major terrorist attack on the United States is still very real," says the report to be released Wednesday, the same day a congressional commission will hold a hearing in New York on nuclear and biological terrorism threats.

"A nuclear, chemical or biological weapon in the hands of terrorists remains the single greatest threat to our nation," the report said. "While progress has been made in securing these weapons and materials, we are still dangerously vulnerable."

Congressional Democrats, meanwhile, had harsher criticism of the Bush administration's efforts. Their report, written by the staffs of the House Homeland Security and Foreign Affairs committees, found little or no progress across the board on national security initiatives.

"The Bush administration has not delivered on a myriad of critical homeland and national security mandates," said the Democrats' report that was released Tuesday.

"The administration has just failed to act in so many ways," said Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss. "Let's say that we've been fortunate that we have not been attacked" since 2001, said Thompson, who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee.


3) There is a tenacious impeachment movement in the US that is growing in grassroots support. This movement places many powerful individuals in the Bush Administration in personal jeopardy of not only being removed from office, but also being subjected to criminal prosecutions.

http://www.pubrecord.org/politics/313-kucinich-ramps-up-impeachment-efforts-against-bush.html

Kucinich has collected 150,000 signatures, 100,000 of which have already been filed. On Wednesday, the day before 9/11, about 50,000 additional signatures will be filed with the Speaker through the Clerk of the House. Kucinich's office said the effort is ongoing.

Wednesday's news conference is entitled “The day before the world changed, a day to change the world!” It will focus on Kucinich's ongoing efforts to hold impeachment hearings against Bush.


4) Statements have been made by the Democratic Presidential candidates that investigations could happen to investigate potential capital crimes committed by Bush Administration officials while in office.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/obama-may-bring-criminal-charges-against-bush-administration-13967420.html

Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden has said that that he and running mate Barack Obama could pursue criminal charges against the Bush administration if elected to the White House this November.

Biden said that an Obama-led government would go through Bush administration data with “a fine-toothed comb” and pursue charges if necessary.

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The motivations now exist to influence the Bush Administration to seek cancellation of the 2008 Presidential election in order to shield themselves from war crime prosecutions, remain indefinitely in office and continue their “War on Terror” global agenda. What is missing is the overwhelming justification to the American people.

If there is a WMD attack on one or several American cities, the pretext will exist to declare martial law and establish a de facto Bush/Cheney executive dictatorship.
These are good points. But we must not lose sight of the fact that the Republicans and Democrats are pawns in the chess game. This idea of Obama/Biden impeaching Bush/Cheney and the constant to and fro between each sides is just manipulation that is carried by the mainstream media.

We need to see through that.

Whether or not there is an election or whoever takes control of the White House in January, the true earthly powers will always reside with the Papacy and the Jesuits and/or the Illuminati.

[Anti-Ignorance]

Good stuff, keep it coming!! I've seen all of this from other sources, but this is put together nicely.

I think an important thing for people to know, is that it's useless debating who will win a war between US and Russia or China, because wars are not about "winning". They are financed, coordinated, and instigated at the highest levels. The US is planned to lose this war, as the entire collapse of the American Empire is planned. It just seems as if the neocons are having a little trouble lately trying to get another country to fall into their trap... but they have many tricks up their sleeves...

Now just because something is planned, doesn't neccesarily mean they will succeed...

Once again, thank you for this great information!

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and don't forget, Turkey, one of the Strongest NATO militaryforces in the region will also stand with Iran, thanks to their new Islamic Government...

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Hmmm, it's interesting to note just how much posturing is done by various countries as a means to let the other side know what "could" be at stake. Years ago, when the Berlin wall came down and the cold war ended, Russia had the opportunity to get back on its financial feet and with the help of US businesses to boot. Russia can now financially wipe out the US so why would one worry about nukes? By now, many know that 9/11, which is instigated by the Cheney cartel and was based upon taking out the US economy so as to redirect the US toward a one-world-government that Pappy Bush started back in the days when he was around JFK and likely had something to do with JFK's demise.

The military are chess pawns. All one has to do is watch deployment to get an idea of the next psychological move against other PTB in the world today. Most of this is just posturing with no real threat (in actual terms of nukes being fired) in the offing. For the most part all of this posturing is “pre-planned” where each of the sides are aware of what the other one is doing. At least awareness is present in the upper echelons of where these decisions originate.

It is best to stand in mode of the observer and on an energetic level continues to pour forth positive intention in the direction of the dysfunctional situation. In the end, it is our intention which controls the outcome of events, and to be effective ones intention must become focused on a positive outcome. :thumb_yello:.

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[Robbie]

Many countries are making a mockery of "divine law" but remember the "law of attraction" what you put out you will get back. Many countries are about to reap a whirlwind US, Israel etc etc.
In the end it will result in thermonuclear destruction should we not change the script, is this a threat no, simply how it is.

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You had alot to say and it was interesting to say the least. What I don't understand is the remark that biden and obama would go over bush's "crimes" with a fine tooth comb.

That doesnt settle well with me.

Have you seen anything about their crimes. They are no better Obama isn't even an United States citizen. He needs to be proscescuted not made president. He has run on so many lies. He is a fraud! He has "nazi" written all over his face. Biden's son left for Iraq if he really did, after filing false charges against Larry Sinclair to have him arrested and treated like crap. Threatening Larry to keep him locked up for life. Even Biden's niece threatened Larry ! What the Hell is that. Now, you know sonny boy was helping daddy get the vp spot. So if you want the job, its ok to take out a few? Ask Obama about his gay lovers that are now dead. Ask him about his drug use

No thank you ............lets get some real men & women to do the job,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you betcha they will take care of business and thats not "just saying they will" and smoke the dope on the other side of their mouth

There is a thread right here that shows you the law suit filed with congress today. Part of this included obama and the DNC party and Diane Feinstein. Well I would like to see them all tossed out. PHEW sorry had to get it out!

McCain has no business being put in the spot as "maverick" is not what we need

You put a good man like Ron Paul or even Dennis Kuchinic (sp) in place , we might have something. Hell put them both in

But all in all , I am with following the Zeitgeist movement. Am really excited to do something right in my life. Now that I'm awake.............anyone sorry????

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Thank you for the great information.

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Hi, For some reason, the projectavalon.net site is extremelly slow, but I wanted to post this link because I found that it is very closely related to what Mr. Deagle was speaking about in his phone call with Bill & Kerry.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4383

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I had a dream last night that I was home sleeping in my bed and I we were all on alert because nukes/bombs could hit us at any time.

I don't know the location that I was at. It was the U.S. though and people were under curfew and didn't know if we were going to get hit.

This could be just all the information I've been reading, so my mind is imagining all this during sleep time, or maybe it's just a warning of doom and gloom.
Also, it could signify something else, like fearing the unknown and feeling like I'm in danger....many interpretations could be made. Just wanted to share.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I am a Messianic Jew, which means I personally acknowledge Yeshua of Nazareth as my Lord, and I loyally accept Him as the King of kings. He is the One of whom Moses and the prophets wrote. He is the Lamb of God whose blood was shed to pay the ransom for sin and wash all of us clean. He is the Savior of mankind who literally and physically rose from the dead, and He will return to save the world from destruction at the hands of evil principalities and powers who are deceiving and deluding many souls on this planet.

My message is simple: Reconnect yourself to God by having a trusting relationship with Him. Those who try to replace God are cutting off their own immortal soul from the Source of Life.

Shema Yisrael, Adonai Elohenu Adonai echad.
Baruch atta B'Shem Adonai.

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Merkhava

This might be a strange question, but having German ancestors you might know the answer. I've been waiting a long time to see someone open up to speak about the subject.

As a young child, Hitler was raised a Jew and several years later converted to being a Lutheran. Do you know if he was a Messianic Jew? Are there any stories of why he converted?

The beginning of the Lutheran church, was in Germany, Luther went against England's will and translated the Bible for the people.

His beliefs came through in his translation that all men have a spirit connected to God, and through it, Godly wisdom. He went against the teachings of the Catholic Church which said that all men need priests to speak with God.

Interesting story, but I've always wondered which belief he started with.

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As debate over the Golan Heights heats up in Israel, news accounts quoted Likud Party faction chairman Gideon Sa'ar saying that if Netanyahu wins the next election, he would not be obligated by any agreements reached by Ehud Olmert with Damascus. To this, Netanyahu replied otherwise, that he would abide by such an agreement. At the same time, his office released a statement predicting that if Olmert does sign a deal with Damascus, the Knesset and the public will overwhelmingly reject it.

So let me get this right, the leaders chosen by the people in Iran and Israel have no voice in the actual decision on whether their countries will go to war.

It is the Supreme Council in Iran, and the Knesset for Israel.

so does it really matter who is voted into office?

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[eagle02]

Hello from NY
Good to hear voice of reason.
The information your writing about is interesting.
Would you agree on what time frame for the fly by of Planet X
being around 2012?

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So let me get this right, the leaders chosen by the people in Iran and Israel have no voice in the actual decision on whether their countries will go to war.

It is the Supreme Council in Iran, and the Knesset for Israel.

so does it really matter who is voted into office?

I definately ruffled feathers on this post.

I was spiked so hard it knocked out the Cable company switch...

so what you just wrote, the Knesset voted almost unanimously to no longer support the illegal outposts...

translated, that means they will agree to a pull back to the pre-1967 borders...

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Turkey

Iraq

Iraq is becoming balkanized by the West. The western banking cartels will not tolerate an independent Iraqi government that does not follow the West's agenda for permanent military bases and oil field development. Iraq's democratically elected government will not tolerate the proposed SOFA which is deemed political suicide for any Iraqi official who supports it. Iraq will only accept a withdrawal agreement, not a security agreement. So the probability is high that the Iraqi government is going to be destabilized through intrigue and assassinations in a similar way Iran's democratic government was overthrown in 1953.

That instability could lead the Kurds to declare the independent State of Kurdistan. That development would create a harsh reaction in Turkey and Iran. It would become a catalyzing situation that could ruin Turkey's relationship with the West. Extreme pressures within Turkey would force the Turkish government to invade Kurdistan and take control the Kirkuk oil fields.

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Well anyone that is religious will understand that Kurdistan is the country that was cut into 4 pieces. It is the location of the Headwaters of the Tigress, and the Garden of Eden.

The 4 pieces of Kurdistan will once again be united as a country...

It is written and with Turkey and Iran being run by those who believe in God, it will be allowed to happen.

I won't return until Kurdistan is a country...

I have stayed the Hand from crushing Iran to rubble, giving back Kurdish lands is a small price to ask...

[Chinacat]

Looks like Merkhava got his panties in a wad over something. Oh, the humanity!:mfr_lol::sleep_1:

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For gawds sake he deleted ALL his posts. WTF do people think? Its the INTERNET , not the real world. Why get in a huff and delete everything.

I thought he had something to contribute, but I guess Merkhava has decided he in fact had nothing to contribute.

Oh well, the sun will still come out tommorrow.

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wow, I guess he didn't like my answer...

I questioned him, but he gave no response, just new threads he copied. His comments in other parts of the forum made him sound intelligent. It was like he was posting all of his fears right here, terrified that Israel was ready to launch a war against Iran.

I guess he isn't used to the saber rattling that goes on all the time between leaders over there.

very strange

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I have been having feellings and some visions of a good thing happening for all of humanity. I can't put a finger on it, but I can feel it, sometims very strong. I'm just going to stay tuned in to that.

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Headwaters of the Tigress, and the Garden of Eden.

The 4 pieces of Kurdistan will once again be united as a country...

It is written and with Turkey and Iran being run by those who believe in God, it will be allowed to happen.

I won't return until Kurdistan is a country...

I have stayed the Hand from crushing Iran to rubble, giving back Kurdish lands is a small price to ask...

Hey Rocky Shores

Where is the Reference
Kinda curious

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Daniel 11:4 But at the height of his power, his Kingdom will be broken apart and divided into 4 parts. It will not be ruled by the king's descendants...

12:4 ...keep this prophesy a secret; seal up the book until the time of the end.

The message I am told to share with you, is not in the bible...


edited to say, I'm not surprised you are the one that asked...

the Eagle is Kurdistan's National Bird

Tehran Iran, is located in Kurdistan...

That is the strangest twist of all, I have the ability to call down God's fist to crush Tehran, but in doing so, would destroy my own lands...

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I have been having feellings and some visions of a good thing happening for all of humanity. I can't put a finger on it, but I can feel it, sometims very strong. I'm just going to stay tuned in to that.

Warm words Mr X :wub2:

[Merkhava]

It is good to see President Lula of Brazil making a courageous effort to divert the world timeline away from the Iran War event.


http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=121706&sectionid=351020104


Amid threats of an Israeli attack against Iran, Brazil's president said Friday he has planned a visit to the country to prevent a "mistake" that was the prelude to the invasion of Iraq.

"I am going there because I do not want the mistake that was made in Iraq to be repeated in Iran," President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said, in comments reproduced by the state news agency ABR, DPA reported.


Regards,
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