My First Reptilian Encounter

[Visvasa144]

It was the last week of 2007 and I was in Sedona getting my Shamanic Power animals with Seth’s training.

It was December 29th and it was late. I said my goodbye to Seth and thanked him the best I could for being there for me. As I was heading out of Sedona I knew I was being Remote Influenced by some agents in cars in front and back of me. I pulled over to access my feelings about if I should go into the trap or leave Sedona. They wanted me to go back to the hotel I had stayed in the night before. I could feel it. I got out of my car and walked about 20 feet. I didn’t think. I just felt the situation. I tried to touch the future as if it were tangible. I got in my car and made a U-turn.

I made an excuse as to why I was back and the owner was greasing me up. He kept saying how tired I was. I told him I wanted to thank him for his great hospitality and leave some newspapers about Mt.Shasta in his lobby.

My roommate wrote those newspapers.

After about 5 minutes of chatting he offered me a free room. I said to myself, “that’s it”. I changed subjects and let this new offer simmer a bit in my intuition pot. I didn’t feel any danger. I felt more of a curiosity or a wondering. If that makes any sense?

I took his offer. It was the last time i drank Red Bull and might I add it was 11pm. I slammed 3 straight to the head and saved another 1 just in case. It took about 5 minutes for me to feel the caffeine and the energy which I Catalyst to ride the energy and transmute it into something more pure that I could use.

I knew the agents were in both rooms next door but they weren’t engaging me. They were just sitting back waiting for me to journey. I catalyst them the best I could and then I saw a women room out of the room below and jump into her car. I went outside then downstairs. She left the door wide open. That was strange. I thought they were just baiting me to go into that room. Now it’s getting really interesting. I’m wired.

I lay down and called my animal. He came with quickness. I could feel his energy. Seth said that I had a really unusually strong connection with my animal. I actually saw my animal about a month before. As a matter of fact I saw a land animal running and a bird flying beside this land animal. At this point I had only 1 power animal.

My two eyes were closed but my single eye remained. I saw yellowish eyes. I wondered whose eyes they belonged to. These eyes had black slits in them. I could feel the energy of this Being and it was incredibly dense and powerful. It was a Reptilian. I didn’t want to pull out my arrows and provoke this thing so I just stood there as this Reptilian scanned my energy system for something. I felt he was searching for a weakness. I heard the agents next door telepathically making comments about what they were seeing then I heard a “shhh”. I did not react to the agents.

I was in 2 places at once. I was in a hotel room in Sedona, Arizona and also in a dark place most likely underground on this planet standing face to face with a nefarious Being that was obviously twice my size. I could see a light in the Reptilians eyes but it wasn’t his or its’. I thought that was strange. I figured it out. A couple of days before while journeying a met a Divine Being. It had the shape of a human and everything. The only difference was that when I would look to see its face their was nothing but pure white glowing light. I could see my reflection off the eyes of this being. I did not see someone who was 32 years old and 5’10” with brown eyes. I saw a white glowing light.

I saw myself truly for the first time in this life.

After what seemed like hours the Reptilian went away and their it was……
the golden plant thing that I had seen before. I could not believe my eyes. I felt so happy and filled with joy but with sadness too. All in one moment. I tried to take this plant but it didn’t move. I tried yanking it by its main stem, nothing. I tired all sorts of things then I decided to be like the wind and blow the plant. I took a deep breath in my mind and blew psychically. The leaves of the plant fell off. I tried grabbing it again. It still didn’t move.

If you would like to read the rest of this experience and more
http://heavenlycatalyst144.blogspot.com

visvasa

[Deoxyan]

i dont believe this.

[martina]

I do

[arcora]

xxx

[sylph16]

Oh MY, i am stunned at my own disbelief...why don't i get it...this seems like an awesome Sci-Fi novel...i guess i am just not "there" yet

peace

sylph

[Norval]

I suggest it be moved to Contacts area.

[Allie]

I would lean towards taking Acora's advice here.:original:

[David]

Interesting. This really should be moved to the Contacts area.

[Visvasa144]

JFR (just for the record)
I initially posted in Contactees but the MOD. took it down until Kerry C. and some others put it here.

Visvasa

[Stephen]

*I* was the dim witted half awake Mod that moved the Timeline Warfare thread by accident into the Conspriracy sub forum.
I 'thought' that was the original one but, like I said I was not fully awake yet.
Dood is not very functional before his morning coffee and first smoke. :cup::smoke:
It is already back in Contactees Sub forum now.

Everything is fine.
Visvasa144 is very forgiving and understanding of 'The Errors of my Ways'.

[Harper]

Hey visvasa,

I guess its always difficult when you do have an experience and I really don't doubt that something happened to you but I have to take a huge step away from anyone who puts their faith in David Icke, how did you ever rationalise his early ninties predictions? How did you explain away let me see..... what was it again, oh yeah definately Cuba sinking into the sea, along with the isle of man, the island of Aran, I think the county of kent........and the list goes on.

Defend him please if you can but really if you didn't know this you should.

Take it easy

g

[Ali Quadir]

Dude, I'm sure crazy things happen. I've seen crazy stuff myself. However, what I cannot figure out is why these guys would be after you. You never mention anything out of the ordinary that would perk their interest.

Your shamanic experiences are shared by thousands. You're not the only one having visual quests. And the recipe you give for creating a heavenly catalyst is just an excercise in visualisation with the apparent attempt at creating a thought form. An attempt that seems plausible depending on the power of the operator.

What makes you so special that it's the "feds number 1 priority to get close to you.."?

My basic response to any of this is always suspension of disbelief. I have no reason at this time to come to a verdict. I've heard crazier stories that I finally concluded to be true. But honestly, all the while, reading your blog and message I was wondering what your DBZ powerlevel was. The fact that you claim that all their attention revolves around you does not give me much faith in the truth of your story...

So... What makes you so special?

[Visvasa144]

I guess its always difficult when you do have an experience and I really don't doubt that something happened to you but I have to take a huge step away from anyone who puts their faith in David Icke, how did you ever rationalise his early ninties predictions? How did you explain away let me see..... what was it again, oh yeah definately Cuba sinking into the sea, along with the isle of man, the island of Aran, I think the county of kent........and the list goes on.
Take it easyg

hello,
who said i put my "faith" in David Icke. it was a great, well delivered presentation. i left it at that. i didnt know what to think. when someone tells me something that sounds "wild or crazy" etc. i listen and put it in a certain place. then if i have an experience that supports what that person or persons said about that "thing" then thats cool.

up in mt. shasta was the first time i heard of him or the reptilians. it was just syncronicity or a fore-shadowing of events to come. this is the first time i heard of Cuba etc. so i really dont feel i need to defend icke and his beliefs.

I'VE HAD MY EXPERIENCES IN LIVES. THATS WHY I BELIEVE IN WHAT I BELIEVE. NOT BECAUSE WHAT SOMEONE SAID.

thanks for comments and questions. feel free to ask more.
visvasa.

[SoulSuspect]

Ive seen a reptile/person. It was around 4 or 5 years ago. I was at the downtown LA bus station waiting to go back to school up in Santa Barbra. Now if you have ever been there it is full of freaks and maddness. My favorite guy is the supposed token vietnam vet, he comes up to you tells you that he is about to go awal if he does not get money for his medication in 5 min. Now if he is or isnt a vet i do not know, but his been at the station forever. Just to give you another example to set up the enviornment the same day the reptile lady showed up. This women started having a stroke or seizure while sitting down waiting for the bus and no one cared no one even blinked. Everyone just kept going on about their business. This place is full of characters. Now I am sitting there waiting in line and this tall scaley looking thing walks into the bus stop. I assume she was a female but she straight up had extra long fingers scaley hair kind of like dredlocks. Kind of scaley skin. A interesting dark greenish color. Her eyes were wierd too. She had her face covered though ,with a cloth and a hairpin. Anyway the funny thing was the entire i mean entire bus station stopped what they were doing and stared at her. She was either an alien or she had a somesort of scale diesease and her body parts grow longer than usually.

[Stephen]

Visvasa144 said: I'VE HAD MY EXPERIENCES IN LIVES. THATS WHY I BELIEVE IN WHAT I BELIEVE. NOT BECAUSE WHAT SOMEONE SAID.


I understand this. It annoys me when people 'assume' things.
This is a good thread. I wish I had more time to get involved myself. Maybe later on. For now I will try to read and catch up.
Visvasa144 seems to me to be a unique individual. I 'like' Visvasa144.
I get good vibes from him. (Visvasa144 is a him correct? I get sooo confused at times...Dood apologizes if he has the wrong gendar ;))

[Wormhole]

I suggest going to read V's web page to get a clear understanding of who he is. I like him, too and believe he is relating an honest experience.
Peace of Mind,
Wormhole

[Visvasa144]

And the recipe you give for creating a heavenly catalyst is just an excercise in visualisation with the apparent attempt at creating a thought form. An attempt that seems plausible depending on the power of the operator.

The Heavenly Catalyst has been around for a while I think. I did not create it.
You said it's,
"just an exercise in visualization with the apparent attempt at creating a thought form"

your right. everything that you see on this earth is a thought form in one form or another. the computer your looking at was once in the past "just a thought form" it has now been manifested. the HC is also thought forms with the intentions set out into the universe at a soul level. yes different people have varying degrees of psychic ability but when you do the HC and recover soul pieces and cancel contracts etc. you will begin to spiritually evolve because of taken the oath of total personal responsibility. when you accept the fact that we have all done really bad things in past lives and own up to that then your gifts will start to come back to you with soul recovery.

if i say that thoughts are like objects. can you get an idea of what im referring to? let's say i have a sore throat and my tonsils hurt. i can take meds. or try something new, more natural. so what i did was created a tool made out of the HC in the frequency that i thought would heal my sore throat. after a couple of hits with the tool that i created out of the HC. i created in my mind to be an object that exists in certain levels of reality. just because you cant physically see this object in 3D doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

Visvasa.

[Orion11]

Visvasa~ Thanks for sharing,

I like you as well.
Your vibrations are pleasant, thanks for being here. :D

Do stick around.

..in the words of One , (im sure you know who said it) lol ;)

"Man is a universe within himself. "

Much RASpect mi friend.
thanks again,

Bless

[Visvasa144]

Thanks for all the support. It means a lot.

Visvasa

[stal]

Visvasa144 said:

I understand this. It annoys me when people 'assume' things.
This is a good thread. I wish I had more time to get involved myself. Maybe later on. For now I will try to read and catch up.
Visvasa144 seems to me to be a unique individual. I 'like' Visvasa144.
I get good vibes from him. (Visvasa144 is a him correct? I get sooo confused at times...Dood apologizes if he has the wrong gendar ;))


stal agrees with dood :original:

i havnt finished the blog yet, but yeah, its worth reading.

[Ali Quadir]

The Heavenly Catalyst has been around for a while I think. I did not create it.
Can you describe exactly what it is? You have an entry with the same name on your blog. But that states how to make a catalyst yourself. Admittedly it's an old entry. Now you state you did not make it.

So I think I'm getting my information crossed.

Let me chime in with the rest in saying that I like you. You seem like a friendly enough fellow and I have no instinctive dislikes or distrusts at this point.

I just fail miserably at understanding your story... lol... Maybe I'm just being too cerebral. But in my experience, as long as part of me refuses something I just don't understand it. :)

You're not mad. You clearly know your stuff.

your right. everything that you see on this earth is a thought form in one form or another. the computer your looking at was once in the past "just a thought form" it has now been manifested. the HC is also thought forms with the intentions set out into the universe at a soul level. yes different people have varying degrees of psychic ability but when you do the HC and recover soul pieces and cancel contracts etc. you will begin to spiritually evolve because of taken the oath of total personal responsibility.
I understand. Recovering parts of yourself, reconnecting left and right will make you more powerfull. And the oath to personal responsibility is the only way this is ever going to happen. Since loss of soul occurs whenever something bad happens and you refuse to take responsibility. The trick is to release yourself from contracts. Like you said elsewhere.

Are you saying that the HC is the original intent set forth by the universe itself?

when you accept the fact that we have all done really bad things in past lives and own up to that then your gifts will start to come back to you with soul recovery.
We're children of distortion. It's very likely each of us did good and bad things in our past.

if i say that thoughts are like objects. can you get an idea of what im referring to?
Yes. I understand that, I also happen to think it's correct. A thought can be called the most basic and naturally occuring thought form.

just because you cant physically see this object in 3D doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
Since you can think it it clearly does exist. And if it can interact with the 3D world it clearly has 3D aspects. Not every thought form interacts with the 3D world. But it is not at all uncommon.

Like I said, you're talking basic thought form creation here. :) Which confuses me even more because the way you speak about it... The HC cannot be this basic magical work that I've seen 14 year olds produce.

I've seen the recipe that you have on your blog, to create this miracle thing on sites all over the web. PsiPog for example has some very good tutorials.

The thing I hope you can clarify to me is "What exactly IS this HC..." That the fed are after you trying to catch you makes it seem to me that it must be very important.

Help me out here.. What is it?

[Sarahmay]

Thank you for posting your blog, very interesting. I have had similar experiences to yours, the details of which I will not go into.

I have had soul retrieval work by a shaman, and I highly recommend it to everyone, it is very healing, and we all need it to some extent because our souls are under siege.

[Visvasa144]

Can you describe exactly what it is? You have an entry with the same name on your blog. But that states how to make a catalyst yourself.

Are you saying that the HC is the original intent set forth by the universe itself?

I just fail miserably at understanding your story... lol... Maybe I'm just being too cerebral. But in my experience, as long as part of me refuses something I just don't understand it.

The thing I hope you can clarify to me is "What exactly IS this HC..." That the fed are after you trying to catch you makes it seem to me that it must be very important.

Help me out here.. What is it?

Yes! you are being too cerebral and not Being.

your trying to left brain my entire situation from the entire situation to the HC to psi abilities to the technology the GOV. posses etc. this is not a rational, logical and left brained experience. if it were a rational situation then it wouldnt be able to be kept secret from the masses for so long. we would have already figured it out or at least most of the left brainers that seem to dominate society now.

theirs so many variables on why so many people are waking up but i feel it is 2 important factors.
1. the souls realization to manifest its being at this time and space due to the shift or surge in the divine feminine energies. (galactic alignment).
2. this is in relationship to 1 because the soul reacts like an antenna to the vibrations in the universe. we are our environment.

--some people are more sensitive or tuned into "it" or whatever you want to call "it". it has nothing to due with IQ or test taking abilities or being able to regurgitate the information from the night before or how much money you have. it's your soul and consciousness.

i've met so many people that considered themselves very intelligent or smart but have no idea of whats going on with Earth, the PTB and other Beings. they seem to be only able to process information that is spilled out via books, media, universities and NOT THE UNIVERSE itself. thats fine also. they're not any less then someone who can.

BUT....... it is the "who cans" that will bring the change of this planet. bet.

okay. theirs all this info. every where you go. right or wrong left or right.
is it your mind that chooses your path or is it something else? is it your heart or your head? ive worked at 2 fortune 500 companies while being attacked by Gov. agents. it was twice as bad cus i had to wear a monkey suite every single day. i make nothing to what i used to make but im infinitely happier with myself and who am becoming.

whats more important to you? your soul or you savings?


regarding your questions about the Heavenly Catalyst.
---it is a limitless verb. not a noun. it does not sit and waited to be pondered. it's an experience. it's a tool. it's a catalyst.

what would a musician be without his instrument? a painter without a canvas? a writer without words.

get the point. (period)

why don't you just do it and tell me how you feel? feel is the key word. remember, i did not ask what you think.
im basically asking you to use your right brain and not be cerebral.

good luck,
Visvasa.

[Ali Quadir]

Yes! you are being too cerebral and not Being.
The one does not exclude the other my friend.

Do not mistake my faith in my mental capacities as a sign of absence for my spiritual capacities. The denial of part of our world is what the PTB would like to accomplish. One way or the other. On the whole they want us to forget that we have an infinite spiritual side. But occasionally they want us to forget logic, in other cases economics, biology, or technology. It all depends on what they're trying to sell you.

your trying to left brain my entire situation from the entire situation to the HC to psi abilities to the technology the GOV. posses etc. this is not a rational, logical and left brained experience. if it were a rational situation then it wouldnt be able to be kept secret from the masses for so long. we would have already figured it out or at least most of the left brainers that seem to dominate society now.
I have already right brain accepted your situation. I am just trying to balance my views. Unless I make a habit of this I will be misguided. The right brain does not judge information or anchor it in reality, that is the left brains job..

You see so many people on avalon and in the world who believe everything they're told as long as the mantra divine, love and beautifull are repeated over and over again during the message. These people are functioning just fine spiritually. They completely resonate with these concepts. But have no way to discern the validity of the rest of the information.

As for the governments activities being a secret. Most of it isn't secret to discerning individuals. They're just after plausible denyability. So what if everyone knows? If they can't do anything about it who cares? Basically if you know the signs, you will in broad terms understand what is going on.

i've met so many people that considered themselves very intelligent or smart but have no idea of whats going on with Earth, the PTB and other Beings. they seem to be only able to process information that is spilled out via books, media, universities and NOT THE UNIVERSE itself. thats fine also. they're not any less then someone who can.
Yes... I've met these too... I've also met people who attempt to ignore all that information. They call this false information. Probably because it's complicated and because they didn't really make the investment required to make the most of it.

People have fallen to death because they thought they could fly. People who believe the craziest of completely unsupported theories and are spending money and power on it. I personally would suggest everyone to make a healthy balance between the left and right brain. If you don't you'll be manipulated.

Ask yourself why we're built of different methods of information processing if you're not supposed to use them? Wether you believe in a God or in Evolution or in the great spirit. You will conclude that it is because these methods are complementary.

whats more important to you? your soul or you savings?
That's not really a question is it? My soul is who I am, my savings are just part of the game I play. I enjoy playing the game. I have also always enjoyed contact sports and mosh pits. You should just not take getting bruised and battered serious. If you don't like that then you don't belong there.

That said soul has no value, it cannot be traded, it cannot be given away, it cannot be retrieved. You can only partake in the illusion of giving it away or recovering it. There is one soul, one spirit, in it all that is is. You and me with our ego understandings of soul fragments are just movements inside that giving ourselves various forms of permission to be who we already are.

Like the moon staring into the water and thinking how beautifull the water is that it can produce this awesome vista of light. Or how terrifying the water is that one stone hitting the water can destroy this image.

why don't you just do it and tell me how you feel? feel is the key word. remember, i did not ask what you think. im basically asking you to use your right brain and not be cerebral.
Like I said, thought form creation. I've done it a few times before. there's the calm of meditation, the glow of the energy you put together. Maybe some flashes of it's perceptions.

But right now if I were to do your visualisation/thought form programming exercise I would not know if I was bumping into my own expectations or the real deal, whatever that is. That text is just words. The underlying intent is what matters.

At a certain point I was involved in shamanism, and I tried to find my power animal like you have done. I had all kinds of expectations but I got an owl. I didn't understand owl and wasn't really ready to accept owl. Even if I had seen myself in dreams before then as part owl part man. The deal was made when I was walking the forest minding my own business and got attacked by an owl. Not just once. but a few times. When I screamed "All right all right, you're an owl!" it stopped. I was there with a friend, the beast did not bother him at all which amused him a great deal.

I'm telling you this to show you something about me that you may not have understood. I am telling you in your language. If you don't comprehend, don't be cerebral... ask Seth. If he taught you about power animals and totems then he would know what it means.

Unless you say something informative about your heavenly catalyst that makes it more than just words to me I won't involve myself in your story again. It's not because I make a judgement about the content but because I judge that you're keeping me at a distance from the content. I wish you well and like I said before I hope you stay safe and sound.

[Visvasa144]

Ask yourself why we're built of different methods of information processing if you're not supposed to use them? Wether you believe in a God or in Evolution or in the great spirit. You will conclude that it is because these methods are complementary.

yes. but like an athlete we can better various facets of our game(self). just because you were born a certain way with strengths and weakness doesnt mean that is all you have to work with.

the end result is that we are divine god like beings. its that gap in-between who you are now and that divine being that you want to lessen each and every lifetime. thee best way to do this is soul recovery. plain and simple.

That said soul has no value, it cannot be traded, it cannot be given away, it cannot be retrieved. You can only partake in the illusion of giving it away or recovering it. There is one soul, one spirit, in it all that is is. You and me with our ego understandings of soul fragments are just movements inside that giving ourselves various forms of permission to be who we already are.

that sounds very philosophical and spiritual but that just isnt the case. a soul has value and it can and is traded by many nefarious beings throughout the universes. not the entire soul but fragments or pieces of the soul.

just because you have never heard or experienced this doesnt mean that it doesnt happen. you yourself and your experiences create your reality not mine. i myself and my experiences create my reality and not yours. with respect what i am trying to do is help you get out of your own way.

At a certain point I was involved in shamanism, and I tried to find my power animal like you have done. I had all kinds of expectations but I got an owl. I didn't understand owl and wasn't really ready to accept owl. Even if I had seen myself in dreams before then as part owl part man. The deal was made when I was walking the forest minding my own business and got attacked by an owl. Not just once. but a few times. When I screamed "All right all right, you're an owl!" it stopped. I was there with a friend, the beast did not bother him at all which amused him a great deal.

when i lived in Mt. Shasta 1 of my roommate's many power animals was an owl. she was a trained gov. agent black magician gifted psychic. the ego of wanting to be more or know more is natural with respect to one's belief and expectations of themselves. what did you want a raptor? you clearly have some ability to see things with clear vision or you wouldnt have gotten an owl. did you know that your power animal is their to help you as you are suppose to help it also. its a relationship. your power animal needs to help you so it can move up the reincarnation scale.

so, you went to the underworld to get your power animal? yes/no

Unless you say something informative about your heavenly catalyst that makes it more than just words to me I won't involve myself in your story again. It's not because I make a judgement about the content but because I judge that you're keeping me at a distance from the content. I wish you well and like I said before I hope you stay safe and sound.

Definition of Catalyst;
1 : a substance that changes the rate of a chemical reaction but is itself unchanged at the end of the process; especially : such a substance that speeds up a reaction or enables it to proceed under milder conditions
2 : someone or something that causes or speeds significant change or action

thoughts are things. reality engineering. create an icon to heal or defend.

see you in the next one,
Elias Visvasa.

[Dusty Nothing]

I've no reason to dis-believe this story, and nonetheless it was entertaining.
never had a physical expierience with any reptilians myself, but since I was young I've been able to sense different presences around me, especially in the house I reside in at the moment, there's a spot near the livin' room doorway and everytime I stand there for a while a huge surge of energy just rushes past me, almost every time. anyway, I've sure felt negative entities around me in the past, on a number of occasions, and I do believe that some of them are likely to be demonic/reptilian... but yeah, no real physical expierience with such things, I do know few who claim to have had them though, usually on dmt.

[Ali Quadir]

yes. but like an athlete we can better various facets of our game(self). just because you were born a certain way with strengths and weakness doesnt mean that is all you have to work with.
Absolutely :) And you surely know that the best athletes use their minds, their imagination, their willpower as well as their muscles.

the end result is that we are divine god like beings. its that gap in-between who you are now and that divine being that you want to lessen each and every lifetime. thee best way to do this is soul recovery. plain and simple.
In a way that analogy is accurate. However, when you're done and all is collected you'll know that none of it was lost in the first place. That's 3d distortion, the game. And the things you do in order to regain soul fragments is the ritual you require for yourself to give yourself permission to consciously access that soul fragment. And that's exactly what you must do.

You're not fragmented, you never where.. You're more powerfull than you understand.

that sounds very philosophical and spiritual but that just isnt the case. a soul has value and it can and is traded by many nefarious beings throughout the universes. not the entire soul but fragments or pieces of the soul.
So I am told... Usually by people who are being chased, fought, assaulted and wrestled for their souls. I know one guy who is convinced his soul was stolen.. Over time he claimed that I helped him recover his soul by realizing it wasn't stolen, it was his conviction that it was stolen that caused his suffering. In other words he had given his soul away and it came back as soon as he figured out it was his choice. (No contracts)

Once during a shamanic vision quest "the reaper" came for me too. I sensed his presence very strongly. I knew his intent. And I knew the only place I'd be safe was if I stayed inside the room where I was... So naturally I tried to pinpoint his location and left the room to confront him. As soon as I got there, the presence was gone. This is how you regain your power. By cutting through the illusion. You are invited to give up your power by these nefarious creatures. And they display all their feathers and power in the process. But they can do nothing more than invite you.

Why if you are such a big threat that they'll make the expenses they do chasing you around, why o why has the fed not put a few cents worth of bullet through your head? Because your life is sacred to them? Why do you think you spot them around you? Because you're smarter than them?

As you said... "the end result is that we are divine god like beings. its that gap in-between who you are now and that divine being that you want to lessen each and every lifetime"

The big gap is the ILLUSION of not being god like now... We are living in distortion. We ourselves are not distorted. We just created distortion to experience our individuality in because there was no other way. Part of this distortion allows you to experience giving your power away.

just because you have never heard or experienced this doesnt mean that it doesnt happen. you yourself and your experiences create your reality not mine. i myself and my experiences create my reality and not yours. with respect what i am trying to do is help you get out of your own way.

I appreciate your kindness. But something you did got you chased by feds... Something I did got me into the illusion that my life is awesome, amazingly I have no enemies... Is it wise for me to follow your lead without first identifying what causes what? :wink2:

when i lived in Mt. Shasta 1 of my roommate's many power animals was an owl. she was a trained gov. agent black magician gifted psychic.
Dude you should contact Bill and Kerry, I think people will eat your story with both hands. I certainly would. I recognize it is your truth. I cannot judge anything other about it. I am not capable because I do not have the required insights or information.

the ego of wanting to be more or know more is natural with respect to one's belief and expectations of themselves. what did you want a raptor?
It's not a matter of what I wanted. I had identified myself with the wolf since I was 6 years old. So I was surprised when the owl came up and I had to process that surprise. I did not dislike or disaprove of the owl. I just felt I must have made a mistake somewhere. In retrospect I understand that I made no mistake and some of my childrens drawings where I drew myself as that wolf I also drew wings. It was there I just didn't know it.

you clearly have some ability to see things with clear vision or you wouldnt have gotten an owl. did you know that your power animal is their to help you as you are suppose to help it also. its a relationship. your power animal needs to help you so it can move up the reincarnation scale.
I don't know about that... I personally consider it a figment of my personal mythology. I honor it, but I am who I am.. The owl that came up was there to show me my style. But I am the owl. It is a free individual on it's own but it's also still me. My best way to serve him is to be me. And the best way for him to serve me is to be himself.

In the psychoverse parts of me are parts of you, I am what I am because I identified with me. This is how I created this experience. If you were to fully identify with me you'd be me, but you'd no longer be you. Past lives are lives that are close to us and which influenced our current life. We strictly don't have past or future lives. Just like we strictly don't have this one.. On our way in we just identified with things that were already here. And by identification we built who we are from this material. The cross we choose to bear is the cross our spiritual ancestors bore. And we are responsible for it because we are them to the point where we adopted their physical structure, their mental structure and their spiritual structure with all the memes and memories and intuitions that come with it.

The point I am trying to make comes back to my inability to understand what your heavenly catalyst is. Although we are one, my identification and focus is not yours. Your definitions may not apply to me. Without knowing your mythology I cannot grasp your current circumstances or what you're trying to accomplish with that visualisation that you called "creating your heavenly catalyst".

Offcourse this is my special insight in the universe I live in. You may have drawn other conclusions you might actually be living in another world where my rules don't apply. I don't know. I'm fully confident that you are capable of finding your way.

so, you went to the underworld to get your power animal? yes/no
I am not you... The word "underworld" has no meaning to me. Don't get stuck on concepts. Shamans usually learn to go beyond the domain of words and concepts into the domain of what Wittgenstein called the unspeakable. If you force me to say yes or no and I would obey your command. You'd not be able to correctly interpret my answer.

But physically it involved meditation and the typical vision quest.

Definition of Catalyst;
I am aware of the dictionary meanings of the word. If I wasn't I would have looked it up myself. I am also aware of the meaning of the word heavenly... However if you put the two together this has no meaning to me other than "something that apparently promotes heaven" or "Something heavenly that promotes something else..." which is kind of a statement about what it does, maybe where it comes from, not about what it is. I recognize it has a meaning you imposed on it. However that meaning you do not seem to be willing to share.

You my friend, are a warrior, and a survivor... Think about what I said about talking to Bill and Kerry. They gather stories like yours. If you feel it is right for you to do so then I'd love to just hear the stories. Just be aware: it will cause exposure with all the positives and negatives that that entails.

As far as I am concerned. You clearly have knowledge and are impossible to nail down. :) I consider that a good thing. I like the unknown.

[Visvasa144]

However, when you're done and all is collected you'll know that none of it was lost in the first place. That's 3d distortion, the game. And the things you do in order to regain soul fragments is the ritual you require for yourself to give yourself permission to consciously access that soul fragment. And that's exactly what you must do.

You're not fragmented, you never where.. You're more powerful than you understand.

i feel the above statement you made is what you think and may very well feel deeply.

Why if you are such a big threat that they'll make the expenses they do chasing you around, why o why has the fed not put a few cents worth of bullet through your head? Because your life is sacred to them? Why do you think you spot them around you? Because you're smarter than them?[/QUOTE

:wink2:did you really read my blog? i mean can you follow what is in-between the lines. i write about the end results of certain situations therefore one must conclude that to get to that point that one has to have acted or performed in such a way to come to that conclusion. im not being general either.

[QUOTE=Ali Quadir;77911]I appreciate your kindness. But something you did got you chased by feds... Something I did got me into the illusion that my life is awesome, amazingly I have no enemies... Is it wise for me to follow your lead without first identifying what causes what? :wink2:

who said my life wasnt awesome?

But something you did got you chased by feds.....

this goes back to timeline warfare. so basically the reptilians have the capability to track not only 1 person throughout time but groups of people. for instance.....lets say in a galaxy far far away their were these groups of people that fought against the reptilians eons ago. because we fought them in the past they will track us throughout time so that they can put us in a "Timeline Warfare" campaign mind/soul control program or just thwart our spiritual evolution.

the actual thing that got me exposed to the FEDS and the Reps. and other Secret Gov. agencies was because in previous lifetimes their was this man and his daughter. i was in a green pasture with sheep. the both of them came to my farm and took my wife away from me because of something i did. i still dont know what i actually did yet if anything at all. i must have done something first because who would go and take another person love. i had 4 previous lives with them karmically. they actually lived one city over from where i grew up in this life. i met and had relations with the daughter and father again in this life. he was in Korea during the war but was not in the military. he was in vietnam in the war but again was not in the military. he also lived in germany during the cold war. do you understand where im going? he was an intelligence officer of some kind. karma dealt my hand this lifetime. to make a long story short.

the book will be out this spring. the blog is a unedited tone down version of what has gone down.

this lifetime is the result of my past lives and more importantly, my self-realization to my divine right to manifest my destiny, however i choose.

In the psychoverse parts of me are parts of you, I am what I am because I identified with me. This is how I created this experience. If you were to fully identify with me you'd be me, but you'd no longer be you. Past lives are lives that are close to us and which influenced our current life. We strictly don't have past or future lives. Just like we strictly don't have this one.. On our way in we just identified with things that were already here. And by identification we built who we are from this material. The cross we choose to bear is the cross our spiritual ancestors bore. And we are responsible for it because we are them to the point where we adopted their physical structure, their mental structure and their spiritual structure with all the memes and memories and intuitions that come with it.

who are our spiritual ancestors? let me answer that.........the Anunnaki. then you get into the Reptilians f-in everything up creating religion to having humans eat meat. did you know the Reptilians are "Satan".

why would you eat another being? animals communicate with us all the time. we just cant hear them all the time. trust me. animals speak telepathically. so anyways.....are you a vegetarian? why?
its all conditioning. do you use fluoride toothpaste? why? its all conditioning.

if anyone is psychic or is sensitive try not eating any meant for about 30 days and see how you feel. not only will you feel better and lighter but your abilities will grow, a lot. its mainly because the animals that humans eat feel pain and fear at the time of death. this vibration is infested in the meat and blood. then humans eat this. now the human has a reservoir for this pain and fear. now the reptilians have a human that is a reservoir of pain and fear. this basic flawed diet has huge ramifications.

please dont eat anything that feels pain or fear.

it is very serious. very serious.

The point I am trying to make comes back to my inability to understand what your heavenly catalyst is. Although we are one, my identification and focus is not yours. Your definitions may not apply to me. Without knowing your mythology I cannot grasp your current circumstances or what you're trying to accomplish with that visualisation that you called "creating your heavenly catalyst".

mythology????

i have said it already. the heavenly catalyst isnt to be pondered upon. it is a catalyst... a verb....an action....a being. you can keep on telling me how you dont know what the heck this heavenly catalyst is and im going to say the same thing......do it. use it.

I am not you... The word "underworld" has no meaning to me. Don't get stuck on concepts. Shamans usually learn to go beyond the domain of words and concepts into the domain of what Wittgenstein called the unspeakable. If you force me to say yes or no and I would obey your command. You'd not be able to correctly interpret my answer.

But physically it involved meditation and the typical vision quest.

did you see a door that looked like a tree trunk before you got your owl? this is the entrance to where the power animals reside. everyone has at least one power animal. if you dont remember then you were never there. it is unmistakable. you know when you know.

I am aware of the dictionary meanings of the word. If I wasn't I would have looked it up myself. I am also aware of the meaning of the word heavenly... However if you put the two together this has no meaning to me other than "something that apparently promotes heaven" or "Something heavenly that promotes something else..." which is kind of a statement about what it does, maybe where it comes from, not about what it is. I recognize it has a meaning you imposed on it. However that meaning you do not seem to be willing to share.

okay are you ready for the meaning? are you sitting down? ready?......its loving kindness. its that simple. it may be too simple.

this is a very general description of a typical everyday psychic engagement with a gov. mind control agent. when they get to a certain distance i can feel their malice and their intentions. out of the catalyst i create an icon. this malice they have i interpret as being like black glass. i hit them. they break. they dont like this. it hurts them. the pain is caused due to the split of malice and loving kindness. im actually healing them of this malice. so here comes another agent and another one and another one. i do the same thing over and over and over again. in my dreams in the car in the shower right now when im writing this. while im at work while im the a store while im eating while im in the bathroom.

take care,
Visvasa

[Gnosis5]

How does one know about their power animal? Does one have to do something to qualify to join with an animal ally?

I recall a lifetime being a reptilian and I rather liked it.

About implants, we are seeing tons of them and we discreate every pair of them as we encounter them. At the rate we are going I think it is going to take years to remove a sizable proportion of them, but we trudge on. Anyone know a faster (and still permanent) way?

[Ali Quadir]

i feel the above statement you made is what you think and may very well feel deeply.
And have experienced in many ways. I don't know a lot of things, and you will see me state that I don't know when I don't know.... However. In some cases I do know. This is my understanding. :)

:wink2:did you really read my blog? i mean can you follow what is in-between the lines. i write about the end results of certain situations therefore one must conclude that to get to that point that one has to have acted or performed in such a way to come to that conclusion. im not being general either.
I read your blog, not all of it. But I did read it. The problem was that I could not find any concept I could relate to. So no I could not read between the lines. I had trouble understanding the lines themselves. I think your last message changed that. I will go back and see if it resonates this time around.

who said my life wasnt awesome?
I never meant to imply that offcourse... However, being chased by feds and lizards would in general, detract from my personal high(read comfy) standard of living :)

As your avatar once said. We don't need no more confusion.

Allow me to summarize my understanding.
You're tracked by these "folks" because in your previous incarnation you got involved with them. Allright, I can see how karmic ties put you back in the past again and again untill you resolve your karma.

who are our spiritual ancestors? let me answer that.........the Anunnaki. then you get into the Reptilians f-in everything up creating religion to having humans eat meat. did you know the Reptilians are "Satan".
Yes, well, satan is a rather muddy concept imho. But I understand how you could come to that understanding. There certainly is a connection between the two. And it was the original template for a large part of man.

However, this is not our only ancestor. These guys donated DNA and consciousness content. However, we are more than those things. Initially rebelious entities like you could not impossibly exist. The human at that time was pretty much defined as the physical body + this anunaki charge.

As time went on the other influences on us evolved us further from that charge. And back to the original intent for mankind as templated by the earth the sun and the milkyway which are also ancestors. Mother earth, father sky.

So these evil creatures had to intervene more and more in attempts to keep their flock of livestock in line. We've come to the point where it's becoming too much for them to control us. Which is the cause for the crazy happenings lately.

why would you eat another being? animals communicate with us all the time. we just cant hear them all the time. trust me. animals speak telepathically. so anyways.....are you a vegetarian? why?
I am... Because this cool chick that I hung out with in my youth was... Rather unspiritual but it's the truth, and it worked for me. I still don't eat meat and I don't expect I ever will, cool chick moved off to the other side of the country. I think she started eating meat again a few years ago. I think fondly of her but we grew apart.

Animals speak, this is true, not just telepathically. I've had animals around me since I was born. You also know about my owl experience. But they're not the only creatures that speak. What are your feelings about eating plants? I have spoken to trees and learned a rather vital insight about the cycle of life.

Nature gives and nature takes. It's a savage garden but in spite of it's savagery nothing and no one is ever lost. If mother gives and takes. Then so do we. It doesn't hurt to minimize the damage you do though.

its all conditioning. do you use fluoride toothpaste? why? its all conditioning.
I'd wager most don't even know what fluoride is or does. :)

if anyone is psychic or is sensitive try not eating any meat for about 30 days and see how you feel. not only will you feel better and lighter but your abilities will grow, a lot. its mainly because the animals that humans eat feel pain and fear at the time of death. this vibration is infested in the meat and blood. then humans eat this. now the human has a reservoir for this pain and fear. now the reptilians have a human that is a reservoir of pain and fear. this basic flawed diet has huge ramifications.
To be honest I don't know about that. I haven't eaten meat for 15 years now. As I said, it was not a conscious decision. Presumably my higher self is on the job... It does stuf that way.

But I hear you...

mythology????
Mythology : the body of stories associated with a culture or institution or person. ;)

Free from the judgement about the truth of these stories I would add.

You're not the first one who divulges an incredible story to me. I know a woman who has clear memory of some of her past lives. She was young and involved in a political skirmish where a wrong move would literally cost lives. Not hers as she was an aristocrat. But it made a strong impression on her. In fact that past life character still existed in her and quite literally revealed herself occasionally. I know a guy who is periodically drafted for some kind of underground army. They are told to go someplace. And there in secrecy they build crazy things like underground meth labs or whatever the paying customer wants. Other times they are told to fight. I know a lot of people who are extraterrestrial wanderers. Even some who have clear memories of their past. There's vampires walking this earth, werewolves and a whole host of otherkin...

Sometimes it manifests in the material, sometimes it does not.

I call it personal mythology. I personally experience my own mythology. You experience yours. Again this is not a judgement about validity. Just about the fact that it is usually held outside of city block consciousness. And you generally need to have a good bond with someone before they would reveal this stuff.


did you see a door that looked like a tree trunk before you got your owl? this is the entrance to where the power animals reside. everyone has at least one power animal. if you dont remember then you were never there. it is unmistakable. you know when you know.
I actually remember that trunk, you crawl between the roots of the trunk and there's a very strong odor of earth and the taste of the forest floor. It's a very powerfull symbol. I taste the earth as we speak. However, I'm not sure if it was involved in this exercise. It must have been over 10 years ago. To be honest I don't think so. If I remember correctly I went into a forest and "called" it.

To be honest, what you're describing is decor to me. You need to see this. You need to do that. One candle black, and one candle white. Or else... All of it is conditional permission you give yourself to experience some experiences. The occult variant of "IF I have this car THEN I will be happy.."

okay are you ready for the meaning? are you sitting down? ready?......its loving kindness. its that simple. it may be too simple.
Why did you not just say so? Now I can connect it to what I know is out there....

Yes. I see now that the HC can do all the things you describe.

this is a very general description of a typical everyday psychic engagement with a gov. mind control agent. when they get to a certain distance i can feel their malice and their intentions. out of the catalyst i create an icon. this malice they have i interpret as being like black glass. i hit them. they break. they dont like this. it hurts them. the pain is caused due to the split of malice and loving kindness. im actually healing them of this malice. so here comes another agent and another one and another one. i do the same thing over and over and over again. in my dreams in the car in the shower right now when im writing this. while im at work while im the a store while im eating while im in the bathroom.
Yes, you're making a lot more sense after the "Loving kindness" key you gave... I tend to do the same thing. It does create amazing results.

Do you understand that if I had invented the meaning of HC, from my expectations, I would never have known for sure what it means to you?

I also understand how love can cause pain in those who have aligned themselves with pain. Its a simple alchemy. The love allows them to see their pain. And thus to experience it. This experience is indeed healing. The proper term I believe is katharsis. It is something that can occur naturally. But a catalyst might be required when the entity is frozen up.

Namaste

[Dan22]

How much will your book cost? :winksmiley02:

[Visvasa144]

How does one know about their power animal? Does one have to do something to qualify to join with an animal ally?

Contact a Shaman in your area that will guide you into a trance to go to the underworld were these spirit helpers reside. i call it the underworld because many books i have read call it that.

it is one of thee best things you can due for yourself. your power animal can help you make decisions and find answers to questions you have had for ages.

google soul recovery.

best wishes,
Visvasa

[whitecrow]

Matthew 7:6

Matthew 7:7 :thumb_yello:

Visvasa144, I'd love to hear you develop the idea of power animals. You write with some authority. I see the agents of darkness have made technological advances in recent years.

My power animal came to me. It is, of course, the white crow. They are not white of course, but crows with white markings, most often white wing bars, and sometimes a white necklace. They are real birds, and English birders call them "sports." The first time I saw one was the summer my "death" was being planned, and they have visited me at significant moments ever since my rebirth. The white crow is my messenger from the "otherworld" and a visible sign that the things I have experienced are real.

[whitecrow]

I've no reason to dis-believe this story, and nonetheless it was entertaining.
never had a physical expierience with any reptilians myself, but since I was young I've been able to sense different presences around me, especially in the house I reside in at the moment, there's a spot near the livin' room doorway and everytime I stand there for a while a huge surge of energy just rushes past me, almost every time. anyway, I've sure felt negative entities around me in the past, on a number of occasions, and I do believe that some of them are likely to be demonic/reptilian... but yeah, no real physical expierience with such things, I do know few who claim to have had them though, usually on dmt.

Dusty, you're plainly sensitive to spirit presences, and I hope you can find mentors to help you develop this gift.

My one and only encounter with a reptilian was sometime in the 1980s in Dallas, TX. I was sitting at a red light and happened to glance to my right at a guy sitting in a brown Volkswagen. To my amazement he had the head and face of a reptile, and right in front of my eyes he changed into an ordinary looking guy. Badda Bing, badda boom, the light changed, we drove away. The whole thing was maybe fifteen, twenty seconds. Maybe even less. I'm pretty sure I was probably smoking something in my car at the time, but I know what I saw. It wasn't a hallucination.

And it was also years before I ever got a computer, got online, and first heard of reptilians.

[Visvasa144]

Matthew 7:7 :thumb_yello:

Visvasa144, I'd love to hear you develop the idea of power animals.

-Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

-For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.

great passage WhiteCrow:wink2:

i will say that the Heavenly Catalyst can also be used with your power animals. you basically catalyst your spirit friend. the first time i met my animal i bathed him with loving kindness, the Heavenly Catalyst. he grew in stature and glowed a white gold light. they love love.

if you can see the animal then you will be able to see the affect of the HC. if your not able to see your animal and feel its presence then the HC is still effective. the animals energy will heighten. you'll feel it.

take care,
Visvasa

[Visvasa144]

And have experienced in many ways. I don't know a lot of things, and you will see me state that I don't know when I don't know.... However. In some cases I do know. This is my understanding. :)

Right. this is YOUR understanding. i really feel that your trying to state this as an absolute fact. i really hope your not trying to do that. we don't want to lead people down the wrong path, do we?

However, when you're done and all is collected you'll know that none of it was lost in the first place.

You're not fragmented, you never where.. You're more powerful than you understand.

I bring this up because i was doing something today and this came into my head and i got the feeling that we have to clear this up. when you say the above statement you are or seem to be inferring that your done. with all due respect your not done nor am i nor is 99.9% of the earth's populated humans. if anyone was "done" then they wouldnt be here now on this planet.

you can only "know" when you have experienced the experience.

how could you possibly know this if your not "done"?

I never meant to imply that off course... However, being chased by feds and lizards would in general, detract from my personal high(read comfy) standard of living :)

i like the saying plain living high thinking.:thumb_yello:

As time went on the other influences on us evolved us further from that charge.

do you mean "DEvolved us further from that charge".

I'd wager most don't even know what fluoride is or does. :)

about the retardation of flouride. fluoride free toothpaste is available at any good health food or nutrition store.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4kQzsJKcTs

about your power animal. did it give you it's name? if so, dont tell anyone.

To be honest, what you're describing is decor to me. You need to see this. You need to do that. One candle black, and one candle white. Or else... All of it is conditional permission you give yourself to experience some experiences. The occult variant of "IF I have this car THEN I will be happy.."

its not decor. sometimes you have to follow the guidelines of the spirits and the worlds.

Why did you not just say so? Now I can connect it to what I know is out there....

well yes and no about "connecting" to it. the HC is about CREATING it. its about MANIFESTING about REALITY ENGINEERING. our divine rights.
IT ALL COMES FROM YOU. dont give your power away. the power is already there for you. its just about developing it then at will being able to apply the HC to change realities and targets.

for instance; the agents have bad intentions of what their going to do to me or how they are going to influence me (R.I) remote influence. they are trying to engineer my reality negatively for their needs and wants.
on the other hand i have the HC-loving kindness in my heart. i too want to engineer reality but in a positive way.

for instance; i was in san diego at a target store with my sister and her family. now SD is a military town therefore when i go down to SD its on.,:lightsabre: anyways the team of about 9-10 agents are following me around throughout the store trying to mess with me and im loving them all back. as i started to walk to the main walkway a crowd people part. about 15-20 people just all got out of the way.i knew at the other end of this was a pretty strong agent. directly in front of me about 30 yards away was that agent. i could psi see his intention. it felt like a showdown at high noon. everyone in the store is so oblivious to this. he's walking towards me very fast and hard. i could see the weapon he created to hurt me. i just started laughing at him while applying the HC. he walked right past me and i didnt feel a thing. my reality overcame his reality. loving kindness to all beings.

Elias Visvasa

[Ali Quadir]

Right. this is YOUR understanding. i really feel that your trying to state this as an absolute fact. i really hope your not trying to do that. we don't want to lead people down the wrong path, do we?
It is my reality, I have seen this and experienced this. As far as I know it is true. However, reality is a honeycomb of possibilities. The rules that apply in my world may not apply to yours.

I clearly appreciate that each of us should find his or her own path. However I don't believe that my reality is what you call the wrong path. I've been around it too long to be able to take that thought seriously.


I bring this up because i was doing something today and this came into my head and i got the feeling that we have to clear this up. when you say the above statement you are or seem to be inferring that your done. with all due respect your not done nor am i nor is 99.9% of the earth's populated humans. if anyone was "done" then they wouldnt be here now on this planet.
There's lies, bloody lies and statistics, basically you just said in numbers that one in one thousand is done. While in words you say no one is. Just a pet peeve...

I personally don't believe in the "Life as a school" theory... I'm not here to learn, I'm here on holiday. What I learn is my choice. If you are free from contracts, then naturally you are free from having to learn things.

The whole business with 3d or 4d is do you accept this resonance.. Can you grok it? Quite shamanic. Point is if you have no hopes or fears then things become easy to Grok, they just are as they are.

you can only "know" when you have experienced the experience. What makes you think I have not? This mortal coil is just a shell, it's a vessel that holds my perspective. What I am is the IAM that creates this reality and all things in it. I have faith in that IAM presence. And trust that what happens is in accordance with IAM.


how could you possibly know this if your not "done"?
By aligning yourself with intelligent infinity. Stating, "Ok, whatever, I assume my highest self is on the job" which obviously it is... The thing is you don't need to consciously "know" you just need to align yourself to the information.


do you mean "DEvolved us further from that charge".
Interesting choice of words. But Devolvement, as in "the delegation of authority (especially from a central to a regional government) " is not exactly what I am talking about.

The biological fallacy "devolution" does not exist in reality.

Really evolution is adaptation to what is. Not so much away from or towards an ideal....

But if we suggest the ideal to be the charge as placed by those creators who wanted to corrupt mankind and create a slave race. Then yes we devolved away from that. It's clearly not our ideal state though.

about your power animal. did it give you it's name? if so, dont tell anyone.
This too is decorum... Occult lore dictates that with a name you have control over an entity. If I knew your true, soul name, you'd have to obey me. At least, that's the idea.

This has to do with vibration. If you can recreate the exact vibration of an entity you create that entity. Actually, if you know the vibrational key of an entity you can tune into it, become it...

I don't know it's name. I don't think it has a name. It has a vibe and I know it's present when I feel that vibe. When I tune into that vibe, I call it...

its not decor. sometimes you have to follow the guidelines of the spirits and the worlds.
True, sometimes you have to follow peoples guidelines in order to communicate with them in a way that they'll understand.

I personally see no need for this.


well yes and no about "connecting" to it. the HC is about CREATING it. its about MANIFESTING about REALITY ENGINEERING. our divine rights.
I understand, compassion is a choice, it's a pathway you pick.

for instance; the agents have bad intentions of what their going to do to me or how they are going to influence me (R.I) remote influence. they are trying to engineer my reality negatively for their needs and wants.
on the other hand i have the HC-loving kindness in my heart. i too want to engineer reality but in a positive way.
In the end the only thing they can do is inject thoughts in your creator self that would affect that creators world. You have the final say. If it does not feel like that. Then you have the final say on a level other than the level you're conscious off.

for instance; i was in san diego at a target store with my sister and her family. now SD is a military town therefore when i go down to SD its on.,:lightsabre: anyways the team of about 9-10 agents are following me around throughout the store trying to mess with me and im loving them all back. as i started to walk to the main walkway a crowd people part. about 15-20 people just all got out of the way.i knew at the other end of this was a pretty strong agent. directly in front of me about 30 yards away was that agent. i could psi see his intention. it felt like a showdown at high noon. everyone in the store is so oblivious to this. he's walking towards me very fast and hard. i could see the weapon he created to hurt me. i just started laughing at him while applying the HC. he walked right past me and i didnt feel a thing. my reality overcame his reality. loving kindness to all beings.
I've experienced similar things. It's not government agents for me. But at one point a few satanic folks wanted to attack me and and a friend. They did this similar to your story by moving around us and positioning themselves in the ideal grid.
I recognized they were up to something, people are always up to something if they look at you frequently from the corner of their eyes.
So me and my friend sat down and just watched the show. I was wondering if they were able to produce effects. Because honestly, I had only seen my own work up to that time. So I was primarily interested and curious.
They also had a lot of decor going on. They even sent a member to sit next to us as a physical link.
Since I felt nothing I projected my energy closer to feel their energy which eventually I did. And to their credit they noticed...

Darkness always fears itself most. So when they realized I was touching them they blew off the show. The most peculiar thing about the whole show is that years later I heard that big rumours were going round about me dabbling in some kind of dark dark magic. Which explains some experiences.

I never attacked anyone in my life. I don't see the point as you can just change the alchemy and take the poison out, at least where you yourself are concerned. Other people have their own fun...

[Visvasa144]

I clearly appreciate that each of us should find his or her own path. However I don't believe that my reality is what you call the wrong path. I've been around it too long to be able to take that thought seriously.

When did I ever say that you were on the wrong path? stop putting worlds in my mouth. this isnt the first time either. why? here's another example of you putting words in my mouth.
..basically you just said in numbers that one in one thousand is done. While in words you say no one is. Just a pet peeve...

i said 99.9% of the earth's populated humans. last time i checked and heard it was 6.5 billion people on the planet. the only reason their is a .1% is because their could be a couple people hiding out in the Himalayas or somewhere else. so i will give them the benefit of the doubt.

another example of you putting words in my mouth or simply and plainly misunderstanding what your reading. i said DEVOVLE. not devovlement
# To degenerate or deteriorate gradually: After several post in this thread this conversation has devolved into me explaining my writings.:wall:


Interesting choice of words. But Devolvement, as in "the delegation of authority (especially from a central to a regional government) " is not exactly what I am talking about.

This is to everyone who is reading this thread. Since I've posted my first thread. the agents have been threatening me to stop posting and stop writing my blog. today while driving to my new job which is a entirely different story but lets stick to the point.......so the agents want me to stop talking about soul pieces and fractures and timeline tracking and super computers, etc. you get the point.

why would they threaten me if i wasnt telling the truth? maybe im on to something. im not the only one who knows about this stuff just someone who feels that this time, now, is very important for certain people to get this information.

while i was in the shower they said they would back off if i told them exactly who i was. i told them so i will also share this with all of you as well. im poo poo face from the planet youranus.:mfr_lol:

take care everyone,
Elias Visvasa

[Ali Quadir]

When did I ever say that you were on the wrong path? stop putting worlds in my mouth. this isnt the first time either. why? here's another example of you putting words in my mouth.

You said : "Right. this is YOUR understanding. i really feel that your trying to state this as an absolute fact. i really hope your not trying to do that. we don't want to lead people down the wrong path, do we?"

I'm not going to argue with you about what you meant to say. But this is where I went 'wrong'. From my perspective you were saying clearly that my understanding, if stated as fact would surely lead people down the WRONG path.. I could have interpreted the sentence to mean that people's thinking that my way is the only way is the wrong path. But I did not.

Do you understand? Put some catalyst in this conversation friend. I'm not your enemy. People hear what people want to hear. We should not worry ourselves about what they might say. I have faith that they'll find the most apropriate opinion, for them.

i said 99.9% of the earth's populated humans. last time i checked and heard it was 6.5 billion people on the planet. the only reason their is a .1% is because their could be a couple people hiding out in the Himalayas or somewhere else. so i will give them the benefit of the doubt.
99.9% is one person in every thousand... I'm not putting words in your mouth.. This is what you said. You're literally stating that 6.5 million people on this planet are Done, finished.. Then you state that these people cannot exist on earth.

The problem with this conversation is that you either contradict yourself or I am completely unused to the mode of speech you accept as normal.

# To degenerate or deteriorate gradually: After several post in this thread this conversation has devolved into me explaining my writings.:wall:

Then don't let it go there..... I told you I was "done". I had nothing to learn. Also I had the experience of unity. So I'm basically here on vacation.

I made the point to explain to you that there is no such thing as devolution. Its a fallacy. It does not exist. It's a misinterpretation of the principle of evolution. It came up because you explained that ET has influenced earthlings to be the perfect slaves. Which is true. Only I stated that we evolved away from that point because we are influenced by more than just ET. The uni(ty)verse is big, and everything is interconnected. Which you called "devolution". Which I thought was odd for a number of reasons.

I don't mind your misspelling it. But it really does not mean what you think it means. Even if many many people would misuse the word in the same manner it is still wrong, evolution does not work in reverse, it does not bode well for us if we do not understand the very principles we use as analogies in our discussions.

The point is important... Because my argument, the one I didn't even get to is that life is life. It's "done", it's "finished". Yes it's always in motion and constantly adapting to new dynamics. Our predicted evolution is because we're shifting solarsystem and all into an area of the psychoverse where the rules of consciousness are different. Life follows, we follow.

If you're chasing evolution or advancement. You're essentially playing the future/past hope/fear game. You're removing yourself from your focus. And you're not going to be happy or have a full sense of completion ever. Also you're essentially tying yourself into a hamsterwheel contract that won't be finished this lifetime.

The spiritual path of self advancement is a contract to me. I have no faith in it any more. The spiritual path of being however is far from empty. And infinite in it's forms of manifestation. You told me I wasn't done.. But I'm very much done with "learning" as far as new age would define it.. To put it in words your avatar would understand... "little I is an extention of big I."

Namaste

[Visvasa144]

the past couple of nights while in the dream state the agents want me to sign some sort of contract. they want it in my blood. right now my parents house is almost finished being completely renovated. i've been signing checks and papers left and right. i think their trying to take advantage of this.
to those people that think contracts dont exist you are fooling yourself. a problem doesnt exist if your not aware of it. many people say that their are no such things as contracts. their are and most people have done this. just because you yourself arent in a mind/soul control program doenst mean you havent contracted an ability from a past life over to nefarious causes. you could have been tricked, coerced, tortured under duress while consenting to their evil demands. this has happened to me in a past life. they said while i was being tortured that they would take it easy on me if i signed over a certain ability that i had. i did. they still tortured and killed me. one of the ways to find out if you have contracts of soul pieces is to get soul recovery done by a trusted practitioner and of course do the Heavenly Catalyst.
theyve also been telling me to step behind a line or picture this or play word association games to try and get my mind into a confined way of thinking. whatever they use i will say something that is impossible to measure or gauge or grasp or harness. something that is free, borderless, shapeless, formless, vastness....you get the point, yes?

the entire entry to this story can be found on my blog.

[orthodoxymoron]

Is it possible that the reptillian/demon was with you throughout this story...and was directing you, or playing mind-games with you...until it finally revealed itself at the end of the story?

[Visvasa144]

Is it possible that the reptillian/demon was with you throughout this story...and was directing you, or playing mind-games with you...

if you mean that the reptilians have been in charge of this program then yes.

...until it finally revealed itself at the end of the story?

its not the end of the story. just another day.

if you look at the blog and read about the soul piece that looks like a golden tree that i saw while R.V. a reptilian was guarding this piece underground somewhere. the great news is that they do not have this soul piece anymore. it was destroyed and the soul piece was returned to me. this happened in October. the reason why i posted about the soul piece was because it was destroyed and healed and correctly returned back to me. i did not want to publicly advertise that the reptilians had my soul piece and still active in this platform. if you could understand that our thoughts effect everything it touches. i didnt want nefarious people or beings affecting my soul piece. i have the session when it was recovered and how it was recovered all recorded.

my next blog entry maybe about that session.

[Lionhawk]

Visvasa,

Greetings Brother! First off let me say that I have only scanned all these postings. Reading the energy coming off the screen. I will later today make a better effort and go through these again. But my scans see what is happening here.

I also want to inform you to stay your course as what you have been doing is what you need to be doing. Don't let anyone try to derail you with distracting tactics.

If it is any comfort to you, just know that I saw through your eyes, the reptoid you saw. You are not alone.

Namaste'

Lionhawk

[Kinsuemei2]

My first encounter was a trial by fire, my guides are not Nordic, my guides are very different, I was told my guides that I needed to purge my self doubt and cleanse my soul of it's anxiety.

Now after hurricane Wilma,in 2005 in Ft Lauderdale many things happened to me, I had an incident in which I was sat by a small lake at night meditating.
I used to fight, that was my trade and spirtuality was my medium.

On this night I started to smell something very bad, and it was just like off meat, and given the amount of raccoons and possums we have in this part of town, you find most of the wildlife unfortunately strewn across the roadside.

Well I tried to ignore this, as discomfort whilst meditation is a good mental training apparatus, well I heard my guides tell me that I should really check this out as it would be beneficial, now I have to say that MY guides are cryptic, they can give me advice, or phrases that make no sense right away, and then further down the line in my life, I figure it out, or upon deep reflection I can see what they are reffering to.

But I have never been steered wrong and indeed I do owe these two small beings my life. So I started to wander around the lake and it was around 11:30pm and where we were staying was right next to the lake, our apartment was declared a disaster zone by FEMA and 376 residents had to leave in one day, so we ended up at a hotel in which we paid 300 a week for without any power. But this night was night a little breezy and I could see the stars.

So here I am walking around the lake and I suddenly felt a wonderful calm sensation, it was amazing, it was better than any meditation experience or even good night sleep, I felt peaceful, then I saw a large figure stood under a tree, I knew that I was startled but I still felt this calm, until this figure stepped into the moon light, and its skin was look like an armadillos literally, a grayish color and the eyes appeared to be deep set.
As this thing started to almost glide toards me, it moved very majestically I felt a sensation of just power, sheer power, i can not put this into words, because there are none, and I was in full control of my mind, just not how I felt. And then it changed it lunged forwards and grabbed my arm it bent down to me, I am only 5,9 this thing was at least 7,4 and I smelt its breath, it was horrible a sulphurish off egg kind of scent. I do not know why it did not attack I was told if I ever encountered this to put my palms flat and back away, well I only had one arm free, he had the other arm and i felt immense pressure on this arm and then. he spoke in my mind this booming voice that hurt, it feels like a drill into your brain, I was just overcome with emotion, but i could not feel fear, then he started to get angry and he grabbed my other arm, and I could feel his anger and he spoke again, now i have no idea what he said to this day, because it was complete gibberish, it sounded like a language but I have not heard anything like it before this.

I was sure at this point I was done, I had actually resigned myself to thinking I am a dead man, it's over, but I felt him calm alittle and gently let my arms go place his palms in front of me and backed away, and as he did so I felt overwhelming amounts of fear and excitement and everything enter into me, I dropped to my knees, and I had tears streaming down my face, I wiped my eyes to see his tail dissapear into the lake.

Now this for me was first contact, and do not ever misinterpret what I say because this was one experince that was semi constrctuive to me, However I suffered bruises and a torn ligament in my left elbow. and I had nightmares of halls of people that have been placed in bags on hooks stacked body upon body and simply used as food, we are cattle, if anybody has seen a autposy of a human being, when it comes to the meat, we are just that meat.

Our 22 gram soul is no better or worst that a cows 22 grams in my opinion.

Now my these Reptilians are horrible entites, and to be honest to know that they exist crushes me, and recently one identifiyed itself to me and feed off the negativity I have for them and in a tantrum crushed my arm, he broke my radius into splinters, I have the bruises the xrays and medical documents, if anybody wishes to see these I am only to happy to share this, but I have just got to be careful.

Now anything that comes near me Grey, Reptillian seems to want to Identify itself to me in a standard and my guides wont tell me why, they simply say this is a condition of their proximity to me, my duaghter is autistic and she sees my guides and recently told my father in law that aliens watch over her... you can imagine that conversation over the fourth of July BBQ right?

Now to top this off the US government has told me I have encountered Mibs and had threats to not do what I am doing now, the refused my application to adjust my permanent resident status, because I am from plymouth england and my wife is an american, now for 7 years we have battled them over this, and I believe it is due to my communications with my guides.

Incidently said guides broke away from their collective after they lost three members of their team, the speak of a incident where the three were trying to flee from something in a craft and they had detected a bomb on the craft and also were in contact with a human remote viewer, who wanted to help them, but it was to late the craft exploded and the three died.

This was a blow because Greys work as a unit, just because you see one, they are always connected to two or three others.

Incidentally one thing was brought to my attention involving the reptilians and the Grey, our elite know the truth about them right? well that is a door that swings both ways their elite deal with our elite and thus the grunts take all the ****.

so in this scenario where said grunts have opted for spiritual individuality, they have sought out a normal person that just wont lie to them, they want to learn about our nature from our nature, not our perceived nature, yes history tells them all they know it but they do not tell their own kind everything, also they appreciated the fact that we are evolving and what was the norm for us even 50 years ago is very different today.

The reptillians are another case however they seem to just do what they want and nobody wants or can stop them, they are where they are and they are here to stay, at least for now. the do employ the short nosed gray, that wear the gray space suits and are a pink color underneath.

Look these events are not without their toll on me, every time one identify itself I understand more about their race but I also loose a little of myself, I do not have long left in this world.

I worry about my daughters and my wife, but I have been assured they have good protection, just to clear up one misnomer the nordics do not control the reptilians, the reptilians want to kill as many nordics as they see and if you think that is a lie and you have guides simply aske them.

Nordics are more positive, sure they have an agenda, but is not a insidious one, another thing is I can pick up trace elements of other people that have had experinces with reptilians or grays its almost like a club card.

I hate to bad mouth anybody, I do because we can not fight in this subject, it gets us nowhere, but please steer clear of Dr Steven Greer I challenge this man to publicly tell the truth for once in his life.
I do not worry about reproach, my protection is not the brightest in the world, but it sure is very scary and is very dangerous.

[mntruthseeker]

Kinsuemei2

As I was reading your story.............Steven Greer's story came to my mind. I believe your story and I want you to know that I appreciate so much what you have written. I am looking for answers as I felt myself being pulled within my mind. I have never met a reptilian but I was trying to see if it was true that there were more than one race of them or the greys

So many different stories coming out all at once, you just never know what to believe.

So far, I do not like anything I have heard regarding the greys or reptilians and I am going to back away from the ones telling me the "good" things.


So Dr Greer also talks about other aliens from all over the universe and different dimensions. Are you saying that NONE of them are here to help us ?

I think you are very brave to put this on here.

If Aliens are watching your daughter then you must agree that some are seriously helping us. The words from your daughter are indeed worth millions.


(I am not sure Visvasa144 is still on the forum, but his story seemed very valid to me )

[Kinsuemei2]

I believe that there are ET's that are a benefit to us, I try to stay clear of good and evil, I liken the Reptilians to any other creature, despite their technology and potential positive use of it, they can not fight their nature, they are predatory animals but just animals with a superior intellect.

Dr Greer stood up and told everybody that their are no hostile Aliens and they are all friendly and his contact team have never had a bad experience.
I have to ask if his contact team are 1 Human & 2 even exists?
The reason why I ask this is because the simple first contact experience is traumatic even if it is positive.

To be honest my guides feel much about him is dishonest and I also feel this about him, his office stating that everything in Project Camelot is dis-info that's ridiculous as Kerry and Bill are the most unbiased researchers that I have come across.

As I say I think every Alien group has its purpose be it good bad, ultimately it is nature that defines us. can we trust any of them? no of course not.

I trust my guides for myself, yes that's selfish, they have saved my life and protected my family, but ultimately have they? I look at my situation now and at what cost has this really been.

They say that they won't let anything happen, but yet I am still suffering and I have not pressed this issue if that means my family then so be it, I am a father before anything so yes it's worth the sacrifice.

But yes my daughter has many drawings she is six years old and talks to them. My wife deals with it, she has seen this, both reptilian and gray and she has a very hard time with it, but is very tolerant of this, she feels that we have no choice and she does feel safe.

But again at what cost? your under a veil of safety in nest of cobras, I trust my guides but that is where my trust ends, reptilians no, Nordics no, but I am not saying they are bad, i am simply saying I know what the reptilians do and have done and that is enough to jade my opinion of their race, again the same with the grays they are responsible for war crimes, but we do not blame a German for the crimes of the peoples past, this is the way I approach it.

[eleni]

Thank you for sharing that Kinsu.

[mntruthseeker]

Yes, Eleni, you too, help so much in getting the true story out here. You take the time to answer questions rather then ignore as I notice some do.

People like me, do want answers as we really do not know. I have a friend and her first contacts were 3 greys but now she is communicating with 27. She says the same as you. When I asked her straight out if all the greys were evil as I was led to believe she told me it wasn't true. The ones that have been here for a long time are not to be identify with the others. I went and looked it up and see that there are like 5 different types of greys. I also see that they go hand and hand with the reptilians. I do this for a need to know, not to go against what others have said. I know we have to figure it out ourself and thats the only way it should be.

Hers all started with a NDE and she has been on many crafts. I have never seen my guide nor know a name. I believe we all have them

I would love to see your daughters pictures and I'm happy that they are with her. Yes, if they said they would keep her safe, I believe them. I can imagine your wife's feelings.

Actually I have seen some shows on TV late at night that are the show called Hauntings They are mostly portrayed as demonic and I think that is the way they are meant to come across. I would not expect our government to be honest about all of this. TPTBs would not want us to believe that they have any that really want to help us but I firmly trust that there are.

The point is to make a United Universe which is what we all want. I am aware that there are many wars out there in our skies and how long they have been going on

P/A and P/C have been very good at getting the word out to us. I have found many other sites that are great also. The Veritas Show has wonderful guess and maybe you would like to go on their show and tell your story. We do havve to make our own decision on all that come forward.

You mentioned a book and I am very interested in that.

Blessings to you and your family and know you will be around in 2011 if that is what you want. I firmly believe that we can change our own reality. I have seen it work for me. My own little miracle

Thank you and know that you are here for a reason. We do appreciate what you have to say