What if NOTHING will change?

[nivosh]

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

[borrasca2012]

OK for ME .........I AM happy with my LIVE !!!

........... enough to eat, roof over head, and can LIVE MY WAY OF BELIVE,

.....i don"t need ufo"s, aliens or fanatic religion troublemakers.....

POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers



CAN LEAVE THE PLANET !!!!!!! .......one way ticket:original:

[sylph16]

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

Yes nivosh...I have been having the same thoughts lately...and while i am doing my best to PUSH those thoughts AWAY...i am feeling the creeping worm of doubt nevertheless...

I am going to attribute this to the frantic month of October...no real "surprise" to speak of, you can't really call the crash of the global economy a surprise, everyone saw that coming...yes the October 14 let-down was real...i felt it, even though i knew that the event could or could not happen...

It could be that the collective consciousness is experiencing this doubt...i am hoping that it doesn't last to long my friend...in the meantime i will continue to fight the impulse to give in to doubt...my spirit needs lifting, time to reconnect with nature, at least that's how i recharge...

peace

sylph

[dataeast]

I always thought that stasis was the scariest thing of all, the possibility that nothing would ever change. Change I welcome.

[Jacqui D]

Yes i have often wondered this myself, for me i need change this life is not what i want.
Everyday is a struggle because i can see through the whole charade.
Poverty goes on, starvation, wars, death, births peoples perceptions of life and what they want from it send a cringe running up my spine.

For me life would have to be more peaceful, people would have to be more understanding to each other and the each and everyone of us more loving and giving.

[alternative-answer]

You're the change, we cannot change anyone or make them change, to see the change we want we need to change, go within, change you innermost fears and insecurities. www.joy2meu.com/Innerchildhealing.html

[blastawaycas]

Well if nowt happens.........all well and good.........because we don't want it too........but what we will be is a bit more educated forewarned so therefore forarmed for any other such future happening........a few red faces are better than billions of dead faces.......we can give ourselves a pat on the back for our collective positivity and preparedness it may just have turned the tide

keep your head down watch your back
only run when you have to!!

[LaRosa]

Borrasca2012, this is totally right.

I prepare for the worst but hope for the best. First I make the changes inside me, in a way to find myself in a win/win situation. Whatever happen or not, i do all that is possible to make my life interesting. Theses probable events are just that, probability.

I'm not afraid of death, I'm a active person... anything goes or not, it's fine with me. Things are changing everyday.

[ABHA]

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

Hi, what is important is to be prepared, then for any kind of emergency or sunny day, you will be ready.
The fact alone you are having these thought is a strength in itself, most people really do not have a clue about the universe they exist in.
have a great day
healing and peace:tongue2:

[alternative-answer]

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...


It's already changed, the light has been shone on the people that have hidden in the shadows, they are now fully exposed and have no hiding place. This has been challenging for people because of the suddenness of such information coming into peoples psyche. People are naturally afraid but feel powerless to do anything feeling overwhelmed by it all. Find as much information as possible, filter out what does not sit with you, find your own truth, more importantly find out who you truly are, realise your true self, release your fears anxieties and insecurities, realise that you are the power in all of this, take back your power, take ownership of your life your experiences, your behaviours, reactions and responses, where are they coming from. Do not blame, blaming makes you a victim of your circumstancs and gives someone or something else the power to affect you. Get informed, stay informed, spread the word.....

[JoshG_528hz]

first off, i have a problem with people thinking that a ufo or messiah or anything is going to come to our rescue. that just breeds victim consciousness. I, for one, am not a victim. I share the responsibility of our situation with every human on the planet. Nothing is anyone's fault. It's everyone's fault. But fault is not important. Blame does not matter. I don't blame the politicians or the illuminati or the freemasons. I don't hate the people that manipulate the 'masses'. We all share the same responsibility. The search for truth, to gain all knowledge and turn it into wisdom through understanding. To elevate the consciousness of this planet. To live the life of love.
As for all of this 'being a dream or fantasy', there is no doubt in my mind that it is not. I don't know about 2012 or martial law or anything really. Belive everything while believing nothing. The fact is that a small group of people attempt to control the thoughts of the population of earth to further their own adjendas, whatever they may be. And by the way, they are pretty damn good at it.
If this was all a farce, none of this was real, it's all a fantasy, i would feel EXTREMELY good. If this was all made through the minds of "conspiracy theorists" and they were ALL wrong, I would be happy. I would be glad to find that out.
All in all, I am not scared. I do not fear the future. I do not fear the unknown. I strive to know the unknown. To gain all knowledge.

I live the life I love and I love the life I live.

[becky]

Hi Nivosh,

Good question. I know what you mean. We've seen many predictions come and go without a payoff so to speak. Surely, a lot of things that we read and hear about are NOT going to happen. And many of them will not happen to us personally.

BUT, everything is constantly changing. We know through quantum physics that things change simply by being observed. So this universe is constantly expanding and changing.

However, for some reason, as humans, we tend to want the immediate gratification or confirmation of something. And we rarely get that. Just like for most of us, we make changes in our life slowly. Changes in our spirit, mentality, physicality, etc. These all take time. In the same way that a tides ebb and flow smooths out a rock.

Occasionally there are events that seem to come out of the blue that are huge and startle us and impact the globe: 911, natural disasters, assasinations, etc. But for the most part, it's a little here and a little there.

So, although, in my opinion, changes do seem to be speeding up a bit, the transformation and transition to a NEW AGE of love and compassion (if that is what you are referring to?) will not happen with a big bang.

But then again, as I've said in other posts, the more I learn, the less I feel I know.

Love and Haagen-Daaz,
Becky

[capreycorn]

something will happen.
a lot of things happen every day. a slight increase in "events" might not be alarming. . the big expected change will come. it doesn`t have to happen all at once like in the movie "the day after tomorrow".
even if we had a pole shift for example there will still be those who won`t be badly affected and not think of it as big catastrophe for their own "little cosmos". (maybe not even taking much notice of the big bummer..these could be some mountain people already living on their own steam because they don`t have the choice..they could hear some horrifiying news on their old radio and just think :nono:"now they`re really exagerating!")while for others it could be the end of the world. (those living in florida for example..when the life they had is washed away and underwater:shocked:)
for some, "end of the world" is already now..(some stock market people already voiced this and it was reported in the media)..for others it isn`t the end and never will be. for some of us it will be the beginning of the life we always wanted and the change towards it might even be happening too slowly for some ..... :sad:

[nivosh]

POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers



I resent this statement personally! :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

[Proletariat]

Well the prophecy DOES say the antichrist would come in the form of an individual who everyone looked up to, and praised and worshiped, which might explain why people are so hysterical over Obama.

[Shadowstalker]

I still don't know where folks got the idea that someone or something was to save us, I myself never thought that. I mean I myself always look to other means for research I never even heard of Blossom Goodchild till after i heard Megentapixie and that was in passing at the time. And magenta pixie stated that that if we wanted to be saved, that it would be up to us even with the Oct.14th issue in not so many words, I still think people should look to more then one source.

The change should come from within at all times to start with, not with your neighbor.

[deb003]

Expectations usually lead to dissapointments or even resentments.
I guess one way to help would be to let go of the expectations of anything and just live in the moment.
Easier SAID than actually DONE!!!
I do hope for change.
I'm tired of hearing about destruction and corruption every day.
I guess I will start with changing myself!
But I know what you mean, it can gewt frustrating because there's an expectation there..

[borrasca2012]

I resent this statement personally! :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

NO YOU DON"T :naughty:



u are not so stupid to make war because u think u are the choosen ones....:lightsabre:


u are somebody who want to wake up from this dream and make the world

into a better place.......thats why u are here at project camelot...or not ???


U KNOW what i mean..... when i look down there its always fight and

trouble........I AM TIERED of this and hope it will be QUIT there soon !!!!

WE DON"T want WAR on this PLANET !!!!!!!! NOT FOR FOOD

NOT FOR RELIGION, NOT FOR BORDERS,LAND......


WE DON"T NEED THESE WAR-PEOPLE........move......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[freekatz]

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

I woke up the other morning with the EXACT same thought, I almost wrote a thread about it as I felt I'd had a great revelation:trumpet: then I thought "why bother, no one will be interested" ...sort of apathetic. Maybe it's some giant subliminal message that's being sent out.

[weareone]

thinking that god or aliens will come down and save us means you still have the victim attitude. If god comes it comes as an energy not a person. Obama wont change a thing because the external/internal us issues and political infra-structure wont change. I dont think when 2012 happens anything noticable will change, but i do think that when we look back on 2012 from 2022 we will se it as the time things changed. Peace

[Shadowstalker]

Sooner or later folks have doubts on almost anything that comes there way, this is not uncommon

[freekatz]

Well the prophecy DOES say the antichrist would come in the form of an individual who everyone looked up to, and praised and worshiped, which might explain why people are so hysterical over Obama.


For goodness sake! More anti-Obama, there were (and still are) A LOT of people who "look up to , praise and worship" GWB and you couldn't get much closer to the anti-christ then him:wall:

[Allie]

I resent this statement personally! :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

Me, too.

[777 The Great Work]

[QUOTE=borrasca2012;68361]OK for ME .........I AM happy with my LIVE !!!





There is no I OR My

[capreycorn]

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=4_P8S3H3kVw

the above video is a typical sensationalist media oriented scenario..will it happen like this? maybe..or not.

i had the chance to go to china a few days after the "tien an men square massacre".it was the best time to travel through china without other foreigners around. so a week after the massacre i still could see blood on the square..there were some guards staring at my video camera but that was it...it was far less creepy than being stared at by somebody "shady" in manhattan..it was strange how all foreigners left china, to go back to a even creepyer and more dangerous "hometown" in the US or elsewhere. (the media does that to us)
another example..when i visited sri lanka and the philippines, when the whole world saw war going on there..i was really disappointed to not see anything spectacular like in the news at all....ok some skelettons on the side of the road...so what? toombstones in a cemetary look more frightening.
often we have to go searching for "the action" or danger just to get electrocuted by some household appliance in home sweet home.

it really depends where we are or will be and the attitude we have...

[borrasca2012]

[QUOTE=borrasca2012;68361]OK for ME .........I AM happy with my LIVE !!!





There is no I OR My



there are no SPOON"s either.... ( matrix1)

....... okei,than i"ve to correct me and say:: the ALLONESS , incarnated

in this individual body, and time and space is HAPPY.......how it is

[Operator]

Hi,

First of all: why are we waiting for something to happen and waiting for change ?
We ARE the instruments of change and we should shape the change to our likings ! Be part of it.

If we stay in the waiting mode we will be victims. If we get in the victor mode we get to decide about the outcome.

Do we need change ? .... yes we do !
Mankind is on a collision path and even if it may not be soon, we need to safeguard this world for for the future of our children.
Like the Hopi say: be responsible for the next 7 generations to come.

So if you don't experience change (for the good) we have to investigate our actions since apparently we're still failing.

Cheers

[franciejones]

Nivosh,

Hello my friend. I feel those fears at times as well. Know that I am changing with you and others here and if the world stays the same, atleast we will not. The smallest changes matter.

Love to you

Francie Jones

[franciejones]

OK for ME .........I AM happy with my LIVE !!!

........... enough to eat, roof over head, and can LIVE MY WAY OF BELIVE,

.....i don"t need ufo"s, aliens or fanatic religion troublemakers.....

POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers



CAN LEAVE THE PLANET !!!!!!! .......one way ticket:original:


What a terrible and disgusting thing to say about others.

[Suriel]

There are always changes in life. It is how we deal with
the changes that determine the outcome.
I hope that the world will be healed.
I look forward to the Human race awakening in spiritual understanding
and love.

Either way, I am thankful to have my family.
Life is a gift.
Bless Everyone.

Peace,
Kevin

[borrasca2012]

OKEI...... WHEN ITS TERRIBLE TO SAY that we want NO WARS

on this planet.......YOU ARE NOT READY for any change.........



I JUST SAY: NO WARS !!!!!!!!!! and no people who makes it.....

ANIMALS just kill to get FOOD .......


........BUT DOWN THERE, they just KILL for their own stupid intrests....

they even don"t eat each other...they just kill, for FUN:nono:

OR BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE STUPID THAN THE STUPIEST ANIMAL


THIS IS A PLANET FOR HUMANS who want to live in peace !!!!!




LEAVE THE PLANET, TROUBLEMAKERS......NO WAR

[Shadowstalker]

Originally Posted by borrasca2012 View Post

POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers

--------------------------------------------

So Aliens and Jews are trouble makers?

Interesting seeing how we are for the most part, part alien,:mfr_lol:
As for the Jews? what is wrong with them, seeings how you are generalizing.

[MargueriteBee]

Everyday is getting better and better, it's the turn of the tide.

[isotelesis]

Things are changing, just not how we expect, I think Nibiru/Galactic Alignment/2012 etc. is part of an elaborate disinformation campaign:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/576560.html

However I do believe there is a lot of technology limited to black ops, probably for good reasons, many talents are wasted in pursuit of these chimera.

There are more practical issues to be concerned with, such as public health, transportation, economics, food/water supply, geopolitics, pollution, sustainable development, education, organized crime, and problems of a more systematic nature.

Try fixing those problems which can be solved.

[firstfruit]

Yes i have often wondered this myself, for me i need change this life is not what i want.
Everyday is a struggle because i can see through the whole charade.
Poverty goes on, starvation, wars, death, births peoples perceptions of life and what they want from it send a cringe running up my spine.

For me life would have to be more peaceful, people would have to be more understanding to each other and the each and everyone of us more loving and giving.





I concur totally we are two of many awakening lights


Our way of life humanities way of life humanities belief system it’s all engineered it’s been engineered for eons of time.

The charade is thinning to the existent we can now see the beast hiding within the system.

What lies cheats deceives and murders us and has done throughout history

Do you really need to think about?

This is not life its abuse its slavery its ending can you feel it the darkness is over.

The countdown to 2012 look around you what do you see buckets of. They are cashing in everything our governments care not what you see or what you hear your hatred your anger its encouraged.

We are all witness to the death throws of the beast our evil fear based system.

“Humanity and mother earth are becoming help us to become for our highest and our best good and for all concerned”

Lak-ech

[LaRosa]

by Borrasca2012:POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers CAN LEAVE THE PLANET !!!!!!! .......one way ticket.

When I supported this comment I lowered to his style. I guess he is against the parasitic type of aliens ignoring there are some that are friendly. The Jews comment is just ignorance and I haven't paid attention to that word in the comment.

Borrasca2012 I believe you are having good intentions, just don't close door to those who might help you one day, may it be an alien or a Jew. A good person can be found everywhere no matter his origin. You would have said Illuminati, you would offend a reader who is one of them but wish to be wisthleblower.
I go more general and I have a wide diversity of friends. One way ticket to... the parasites of the human race! Now you fit inside what you want.
:tongue2:

[Anchor]

POLITIK ,MONEY,RELIGION,JEWS,ALIENS and other troublemakers

CAN LEAVE THE PLANET !!!!!!! .......one way ticket:original:

Not acceptable. Infraction awarded - PM sent

[nivosh]

Not acceptable. Infraction awarded - PM sent

Thank you.
Well Modarated forum...

[borrasca2012]

............WE JUST HAVE TO LEARN FROM HISTORY and make it better

""next time "".....hope really THAT THERE WILL be


BIG BIG SILENCE !!!!!! in those "war-areas" soon..........

.....by the way, i read that IRAN was doing some nuclear

test....:naughty:

.......I"m looking forward for WORLD-PEACE !!!!!!:welcomeani:


........and think from me what u will, EVERYBODY has his story


FREE WILL FREE SPEAK FREE WORLD

[Jnana]

Back to the original question....

Given the rapid pace of change in the world, the idea of NOTHING changing between now and 2012 is an odd one. I assume the notion here is more along the lines of what if the world is not suddenly transformed to a new density or something like that, preceded by a healthy dose of natural and man-made disasters.

In fact, having made it through an October where I was expecting a major false-flag event and/or a period of economic collapse, I have had similar thoughts - what if 2012 is a big nothing? However, my first thought is to be very thankful that we made it through October! I think we dodged a bullet. But the game is still on.

I think it remains to be seen whether we will have a chaotic destructive transition followed by rebuilding, or a gradual transition to a peaceful world.

Climate change is still an issue. Economic problems are still an issue. An Isreal/Iran conflict leading to world war is still a possibility. Declining oil supplies are still an issue (even if Lindsay Williams is right). Suppression of knowledge about ETs is still an issue. Civil liberties are still being rapidly eroded. The chances of a peaceful transition to a sustainable system seem pretty slim to me, but I think it is still possible.

I have doubts about Dec. 21st, 2012 as a date for the same reason as I had doubts about Oct. 14, 2008. Sure, something big MIGHT happen. Then again, we could all just keep plugging away trying to make the world a better place one person at a time. We have free will. I'm inclined to think that focusing on a particular date in the future detracts from working on the problems here and now.

[Average Joe]

I don't really think that anything unusual will happen on 21st December 2012.

I think by then, people will be concentrating on other prophecies made betwen now and then.

It will be interesting to see peoples reactions on 22nd December 2012, on here.

I agree with some of the issues brought up by Jnana though.

[nivosh]

Thank you jnana for your insights...

[whitecrow]

Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

Hello Nivosh,

You've brought up a very important point. Y2K was a bust. The aliens didn't uncloak their ship on 10-14. We haven't invaded Iran. There's hasn't been another 9/11. Holy moly, what if it's all just......gratuitous drama? How dumb would we feel?

First of all, you've changed haven't you? I know I have. So we can't say nothing's changed. What's changed is that the Internet has put people all over the world together for the first time in history - and that's a huge change all in itself. What we've learned is that people want virtue. People understand that virtue is what will change things, and they understand that virtue is pretty much totally lacking in politics, business and even religion worldwide.

What if the Forum and the whistle blowers are just a dream? Life is just a dream, my friend. That's not what scares me...what scares me is the idea of me doing nothing. I ain't letting that happen.

[Steve_A]

Hi nivosh,

If nothing happens, all well and good. For those who stocked up on Spam will eat Spam for a few weeks.

The thing we need to ask ourselves is, "What if SOMETHING will happen?".

It costs virtually nothing to take precautions and if something did happen, those who sat on their hands would look rather foolish.

And let's look at least that could happen, members of this forum had the opportunity to 'meet' people of a similar thinking and philosophy.

It's a win win situation. :)

Best regards,

Steve


Hello dear friends.

There is a small but annoying thought that's cycling through my head lately.

What if NOTHING will happen?
What if Obama will get elected as scheduled, the economy will stay the same, no UFO will come to our rescue, 2012 will be just another day?

What if all this Forum and whistle blowers thing is just a fantasy, a dream?

This scares me most of all...
I would like very much your opinions on the matter.

love to you all...

[samncheese]

I think the point is how will you change? We don't need a great shift in the universe to be enlightened. work out your Karma yourself, you have to do it sooner or later. This is the point the alarmist have all missed, it doesn't matter what the world does if your at one with the universe.. The phrase "at one" has a word "atonment" means to be at one. The process of forgiving and accepting the world for what it is, brings this into focus and eventualy brings us peace. It takes the sting out of death and the fear out of life.

Be at peace

[Frank Samuel]

Hey people if your life is not changing constantly especially for the better, then something is terribly wrong. As you evolve , mature, learn, interact with others your world is changing. A positive attitude plays a major role. For others they want out of this world, I want to stay and work hard to make this globe a better place. Whatever your stance never give up on your internal growth.Be happy, celebrate your life live in the NOW. Sure we all hope for a better tomorrow, since I am not a time traveler I cannot predict the future. Is funny to see how many prophets of doom and Gloom swear up and down of the emminent destruction of the earth, the CHOOSEN ONES will be saved. In the meantime I live a happy life, thanking God for every single second of life in this planet. Yes I believe in a better tomorrow for ALL and no I am not a choosen one nor do I want to be if it excludes my love ones. Maybe I am insane in the membrain for wanting to live my life one day at a time,what can I tell you I am having a great time, join the living folks !!! :naughty::surfing::banana::groupwave::wub2: