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Reunite
11-03-2008, 08:58 PM
Has anybody had experience communicating to their pets or animals before? I would love the thought of being able to ask my 2 dogs - what are you on? Your serotonin levels are off the richter scale so how do you stay so damn happy ALL the time. You are peaking 24/7 what's the secret? Are their any Pet psychics amongst us?

I would also like to know where our lovable pets go once we ascend into the 4th, 5th density. I heard they won't come flying with us :tears:

Swanny
11-03-2008, 09:06 PM
I reckon dogs make it to the other side :)
Mine used to look at like I was daft when I spoke to him :naughty:

sunny D
11-03-2008, 09:12 PM
:lmao:

dataeast
11-03-2008, 09:18 PM
Yes, unfortunately they don't listen though.:thumbdown:

I can understand some "rabbit-talk" or behavior, but the same thing, they never listen to me, even if i stoop to their methods.

Average Joe
11-03-2008, 09:57 PM
I have heard that animals won't come with us to the 4th density and that animals don't have souls.

Hmmm.

Says who?

Ah thats right, self proclaimed experts who have no evidence of a 4th density, no evidence of whether souls exist and what souls are, and no proof that only humans have souls.

This is what I think - there is no 4th density, and souls do not exist. Problem solved for my pet dog.

And just on the off chance that there is a 4th density, then who makes the rules about whether dogs come too? I say dogs will come with us.

Reunite
11-03-2008, 10:12 PM
Oh there is a 4th density. I've been briefly to the lower 4th density aka astral world. My father has had many OBE's so that is a big confirmation. I also heard Robert Monroe talk about others communicating with their dogs whilst having an astral projection

She-Ra
11-03-2008, 10:17 PM
Well my mother and I spend copious amounts of time arguing with our cat and parrot - lots of verbal and body language - and we seem to understand each other even though we're speaking in different languages and the point that they are world class whingers and picky gits ;). That said though my mum, sister and I have a separate kind of grunt plus other sounds languages that we use first thing in the morning when we can't be bothered to talk, and goes something like this (rough translation):

'Morning'
'Morning'
'Wassup'
'Sleep well?'
'Dream of anything?'
'Maybe'
'Yeah'
'Tell you later'
'Food?'
'Yeah'
'Guess so'
'Already there'

Whereas the animals are more like:

'Where's my food'
'You call this food'
'I want your food'
'I don't want this food, it's 5 minutes old'
'That's my toy'
'That's mine'
'You're annoying'
'I want to go out'
'I am right, you are wrong'
'It's my way or no way'
'I'm talking, you be quiet'

etc, you get the jist.

So even though we're not psychically communicating we're used to each other...

As for ascension or change - I'm not sure but the idea that animals do not spiritually evolve/de-evolve etc conflicts with the idea of reincarnation and humans involved in that reincarnation. Also, in some ancient belief systems it is thought that 'at the end' the animals (or certain animals) will go first i.e. go back home/to the creator/heaven etc to limit their suffering.

Average Joe
11-03-2008, 10:17 PM
OK, there is a 4th density, I'll take your word for it. What about dogs? (serious question)

I'm not leaving Freddie behind.

Average Joe
11-03-2008, 10:28 PM
You can actually comminicate with the cleverest parrots in spoken language if the parrot has a big enough vocabulary, and actually understands the meaning of the words it is saying.....I've never done this myself but there has been scientific debates in the past about parrots who literally talk to their owners, ask questions, answer questions etc.

Reunite
11-03-2008, 10:29 PM
Wow I actually feel flattered I pursuaded Average Joe on a topic. Mate I too want to know what happens to my dogs and everyone else's pets when we ascend????

She-Ra I'm still laughing out loud on your conversations with your pets..priceless :roll1:

Average Joe
11-03-2008, 10:35 PM
Lets put it this way, if my dog does not get to ascend then neither do I. I'm staying put.

She-Ra
11-03-2008, 10:40 PM
Average Joe - Yes, definitely there are plenty of studies showing parrots speaking/understanding the same language as humans and doing mathematics etc. I even saw one that had lived with an opera sing her whole life and could singer opera like a human! My parrot however does not like English, he'll respond to other languages but not English, perhaps he's still holding a grudge from a past life ;).

Reunite - yes it's really quite comical :)

Average Joe
11-03-2008, 10:40 PM
And another serious question for the ascencion experts....what is required for you to ascend?

Do you have to have certain beliefs in place etc? I've always been a bit confused really. All the talk of love, light, vibrations and all that.

Will being an honest and good hearted person be enough?

Reunite
11-03-2008, 10:51 PM
According to the RA material 'The Law of One' you have to give at least 51% service to others

franciejones
11-03-2008, 10:55 PM
I know intuitively exactly what my two dogs want every single day. I wake up when they have to go outside in the middle of the night without the dogs getting out of bed.... I swear I can hear their thoughts. It is so wonderful. We are very bonded to each other. I also seem to understand my sister's dogs better than she does...it is very interesting to say the least.

Humble Janitor
11-03-2008, 10:58 PM
I can communicate to my cat by meowing but other than that, I don't know what it means. All I know is that he responds when I meow to him.

Average Joe
11-03-2008, 11:01 PM
According to the RA material 'The Law of One' you have to give at least 51% service to others

So, the big day arrives. Its December 21st 2012. 11.11am.

People are going to ascend because they have followed the law of one.

Everybody else is going to die.

Dogs may or may not ascend, depending on who you listen to. I'm hoping that of course my pet does ascend.

BUT...what about the hundreds of millions of new born babies and toddlers? Surely they are THE most important of all for the ascension?

But, unfortunately they are all going to die then....

You know, there are a hell of a lot of holes in this scenario.

Somebody better set about rewriting the rules.

Reunite
11-03-2008, 11:15 PM
So, the big day arrives. Its December 21st 2012. 11.11am.

People are going to ascend because they have followed the law of one.

Everybody else is going to die.

Dogs may or may not ascend, depending on who you listen to. I'm hoping that of course my pet does ascend.

BUT...what about the hundreds of millions of new born babies and toddlers? Surely they are THE most important of all for the ascension?

But, unfortunately they are all going to die then....

You know, there are a hell of a lot of holes in this scenario.

Somebody better set about rewriting the rules.

You know you're right, you can't take everything you read as gospel...take the gut feeling instead.

btw I would love to hear a parrot sing beethoven

woodshreder
11-03-2008, 11:18 PM
I communicate with my dogs all the time. Its telepathic in nature because I stay in tune to them. Most people don't stay tuned into their animals and that's really a loss They are amazing teachers I really believe that pets are the white elephant in the room We are so naive, They have a message if we would just pay attention the world would be a much better place to co-exist Think about it
I have a Wolf "Abby" she's so smart its scary She knows what I'm thinking all the time she's way ahead of me Know,s every move I'm about to make and is not afraid to tell me the way it is How its gonna be and insists on having it her way or no way at all
Kinda like my wife, Just smarter!!!!
Then there's my German Shepherd "Rain" She tells me when she needs to go outside and when she is hungry Alarms me at even the slightest problem with her secure perimeter
around the property (Or the neighbors) Holds everyone accountable for their actions. Is angry with me when I'm about to leave home without her (The suitcase is a bad thing) Makes her mad and shes not afraid to tell me so. I'm amazed at their intelligence and there ability to FORGIVE we all need to pay attention.
Peace Love Light

Average Joe
11-03-2008, 11:28 PM
You know you're right, you can't take everything you read as gospel...take the gut feeling instead.

btw I would love to hear a parrot sing beethoven

My gut feeling is that I'll be alright.

Whether that will be because nothing actually happens (thats the favourite at the moment), or because I ascend, or because we stay in the 3rd dimension and I just survive the disaster.....I don't know.

I just feel I'll be alright.

Of course I could be living in denial.

And lets say some event does happen and I'm wrong, and I do die, well I'm philosophical about it anyway....I'll be 40 by then. I feel like I've lived a decent life and had a decent amount of time on earth. If I have a little time to think before I throw a seven, I'll probably think that I'd have liked to have lived to an old age but I can't complain at 40 decent years....my main source of anguish would be my kids and every other kid on the planet...Hardly lived at all and then taken away.

Jonah
11-03-2008, 11:35 PM
The worst kind of communication is with words.
Animals might able to do it if they're spirit is strong enough.

freekatz
11-04-2008, 12:55 AM
Has anybody had experience communicating to their pets or animals before? I would love the thought of being able to ask my 2 dogs - what are you on? Your serotonin levels are off the richter scale so how do you stay so damn happy ALL the time. You are peaking 24/7 what's the secret? Are their any Pet psychics amongst us?

I would also like to know where our lovable pets go once we ascend into the 4th, 5th density. I heard they won't come flying with us :tears:

I don't think anyone can say that for sure, there are too many different opinions on it depending on who you read. Some people say animals have no souls, others say they do. My personal opionion is that they do, some may be less evolved than others (just like humans). I had a cat once who (in my opinion) was very highly evolved and told me that he was going to leave as he was tired of being a cat and wanted to be a human again, he was actually one of the most spiritual experiences I have had in my life.

Seeing as no one can actually say for sure who we are, where we come from or where we go when we die, there's no way anyone can say for sure about animals either.

Average Joe
11-04-2008, 01:00 AM
If my dog "said" anything like that to me, I might start questioning my sanity.:shocked:

Reunite
11-04-2008, 01:10 AM
If my dog "said" anything like that to me, it would confirm my sanity :thumb_yello:

Visvasa144
11-04-2008, 02:21 AM
Has anybody had experience communicating to their pets or animals before? I would love the thought of being able to ask my 2 dogs - what are you on? Your serotonin levels are off the richter scale so how do you stay so damn happy ALL the time. You are peaking 24/7 what's the secret? Are their any Pet psychics amongst us?

Im not a pet psychic per say but i'am very sensitive. i can hear my dog's thoughts sometimes since the 3rd week i got him. i was wrestling with him and it was getting rough. i said to myself. "i thought i hurt you" then i heard in my head, "no im strong" i stopped what i was doing. then after that i could hear his thoughts on a regular basis. not every thought but at least 5-10 times a week.
it took a while to snyc up. it comes from the heart. theirs some kind of telepathic transfer that the heart creates. its kind of like when your in a relationship with a person and you know what their thinking and feeling. i can actually hear my dog make comments about various things.

case in point; about 6 weeks ago i started calling him "rabbit face" or just "rabbit boy" as one of many nick names. his name is Casper and he's a pitbull -dalmation mix. anyways i was sitting down home alone and i heard a voice and it was a question, "what's a rabbit"? it was very sharp and clear. i turned around and Casper is walking towards me about 5 ft away. i went on to explain to him and tried to visualize a rabbit in my minds eye. i heard from a real pet psychic that pets can see the images in our minds eye.

in 2003 i was in Parisian suburb. i friend of my aunt's had a farm. we went to the farm. they had geese on a pond a small puppy named Martin and a pig. As i was walking over to the pig pen i heard the pig say to "play with me. pet my head." i was completely shocked. my cousin was right beside me. this was the first non dog telepathic psychic experience. i didn't realize how funny pigs were. they are extremely intelligent and their since of humor is laced with wit and jokes. the pig kept on making jokes about this other "good for nothing old dog" that is chained up to the pen for her protection. i played with the pig for about 45 minutes laughing out loud at times. my aunt and my cousins thought i was completely insane. they know that im very intuitive but that just sent them overboard. i really didnt care. i couldnt seem to get my thoughts to the pig though. i also could hear the geese chatter. they actually all sounded like a high school click. "who's that"? chatter chatter. "he's a visitor"? "he likes the pig" "o no here he comes" stuff like that.

btw.
i've had past lives with my current dog. he's also very intuitive and can sense spirits and he wakes me up when entities come into my dream. what my guides told me was that this is Casper's last dog life and he will be a human in the next life and i will met him as a human child and know that he was Casper. strange huh. i live a life that no Hollywood writer could dream up.




visvasa.

Deoxyan
11-04-2008, 03:51 AM
yeah, i understand all animals language, seriously, they are just way simpler than us: grunts, and expressions of basic feelings trough those grunts, that´s all. Mistery solved. Though for they to understand you, you have to use the same language they used, common sense, u know?.

In that aspect i fail. ( i see myself trying to meow appropiatedly to my brother´s kitty O_o).

freekatz
11-04-2008, 04:25 AM
If my dog "said" anything like that to me, I might start questioning my sanity.:shocked:


He didn't "say" it to me in words, he was very ill and dying at the time. He communicated it to me in streams of pictures and thought. That happens for me a lot with people too.

Deoxyan
11-04-2008, 04:38 AM
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freekatz
11-04-2008, 04:48 AM
the point is that you cannot prove that is the truth.

you perceived "something", but how you choosed it to be what you choosed it to be.

that is what you want us to believe.


Usually, this ends up in drama.

Not quite sure what you mean by "drama", there was no drama involved. As far as proving it.....how do you prove spirit?

samncheese
11-04-2008, 05:33 AM
I don't want to seem weird or anything but I can talk to most animals, but it is up to them if they wish to respond. Now a lesson on spirit, all things that are not made in a factory are alive. The grass, rocks, trees, all plant life and animals are spiritualy alive. the planets and stars are a life form. Life is everywhere and all of it is an expression of God.

If you meditate and center your focus on the universe and be at one with all creation you can communicate with it. We are all telapathic, but some of us haven't conected with that side of our spirit. When you awaken and focus on your animals you will see that they have been comuncating with you all along and it was you that wasn't listening,

All spirit is on a path to learn and grow. Your dog may not be ready for fourth density but at some time he will be, that is up to him.

Be at Peace

Deoxyan
11-04-2008, 05:43 AM
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pilgrim
11-04-2008, 07:41 AM
:original:Hi Deoxyan,
Still at it I see. Never mind, you'll catch one of these things sooner or later. Here it is again.:original:

Swanny
11-04-2008, 08:48 AM
I've been thinking of getting another dog, quite fancy a Labradoodle as they don't moult :dog:

Reunite
11-04-2008, 09:33 AM
I've been thinking of getting another dog, quite fancy a Labradoodle as they don't moult :dog:

Go on..do it

martina
11-04-2008, 10:26 AM
Yes natural they can speak, everything speaks. Trees, plants, what ever.
I think/hope we will get our ability back to hear them. Its us who are limited in our communication.
Yes I can talk to animals sometimes, if I connect my words to a picture or feeling.
But you don't have to speak it out loud, it can telepathic.
There are also connections with your hart.
Ones a toad spoke to me.
I was lying on a sheet on a field in my garden. At the edge, there was a fence covered with ivy and it was also on the ground. That was the coolest and most moist place of the garden. I was reading a book about Findhorn and spirits who can talk to you. I also read in that period about water and how much we must drink in one day (three litre !).
It was a sunny dag, very hot and lie there toasting.
Then suddenly I heared a voice in my head: "water...water..."
I jumpt up and I thought, that must be such a small spirit that warns me that I must drink water because its so hot and its not good, etc.
So I went to the kitchen took some water, went to the garden again and there sat a toad. In the middle of my sheet, in the middle of the field, in the boiling sun.
This picture was so strange that I immidiately thought it had to be the toad that ask for water. So I went again to the kitchen, took a dish/basin, put water in it and run back. The toad was still sitting there in the middle of my sheet, he must be dehydrated I thought. I bent down to put the basin on the ground, but before I came there, the toad jumped in the basin but he really could not know that there was water in it, it was not possible that he had seen it because it was to high when he jumped. He knew it!
I put them near the fence, because I thought he must live there somewhere. Telephone rings, friends came, my dogs ran in the garden, etc. and I did not think about the toad anymore. The folowing day I saw the basin and remember the toad, but I did not see him, I scared out of my wits, I thought my dogs could have eaten him, so I sat on my knees and asked inwardly : "toad, if you are still alive, please show yourself". And there the ivy moved up and down, and the toad appeared. Well, that could be an coincidence (if that exist).
And I speak to my dogs also and also with trees and plants, you must, because they are living creatures. There are many proofs of plants having feelings.

McMaster
11-04-2008, 10:39 AM
There is two birds that made a nest on my patio in a candle lantern(correct spelling?) that hangs from the sealing. Now they have three small chicks in the nest, everyday I can see them trying very hard to communicate with me as I do my things on the backyard. Usually it involves lots of noise and close flybys as they are obviously trying to tell me to back off from their nest :)

Steve_A
11-04-2008, 10:44 AM
Hi Reunite,

Of course we can talk to animals, we all can.

I think you need to ask if animals will give us a reply!

Best regards,

Steve


Has anybody had experience communicating to their pets or animals before? I would love the thought of being able to ask my 2 dogs - what are you on? Your serotonin levels are off the richter scale so how do you stay so damn happy ALL the time. You are peaking 24/7 what's the secret? Are their any Pet psychics amongst us?

I would also like to know where our lovable pets go once we ascend into the 4th, 5th density. I heard they won't come flying with us :tears:

Peer
11-04-2008, 12:45 PM
I can't remember having no dog(s).

Of course you can talk to your animals, goats, dogs, cats, perrots and they all respond.
All you have to do is talk with feeling and not with reason.
Telepathy?
I used to have a belgian shepherd and she would come to me just before I was going to blow the whistle. Just thinking of her was enough.

When our dogs (2 galgo's, spanish greyhounds) don't want to come I turn around and break the bond we have thinking: You don't listen? I am off. Bye bye.
Whistle a last time and walk away.
Before I've walked 100 metres they are with me, behaving very guilty because they broke the bond by leaving me standing there.
Then we make up again and they stay with me as close as they can.

We used to have a Labrador who died of old age. Bob.
Bob had Buddhanature. He was such a good and freindly dog.
Later we saw him coming back to get our old cat Merlin when he was very sick.
Bob had a beautifull young body, shining and all telling Merlin it wasn't bad at all to die and invited him to come over and play.(They always were big friends)
Merlin did not refuse and died peacefully and sometimes, when I walk the dogs I can feel them both, Bob and Merlin walking along with us.

Ok, call me crazy because nobody sees them (although some clearvuoyant people I know do actually see them and describe what I know but didn't tell) but I know it is there.
Animals live on the way we do and why not? There is no such a thing as dead.

Maybe the question is not: Do pets talk but do they communcate.
And I say they do. They even learn your language.
They even learn your habits and your moods so they can predict you.
The only thing they don't learn is reason.

You can communicate perfectly with your pets but you can't reason with them.
Neither can you with people.

Tuza
11-04-2008, 02:13 PM
I wouldn't like it even more without my puppies and my feline friends. I luuv them.:original:

Mr Bigglesworth see you in the tunnel my beauty, my love.:tears:

Tuza
11-04-2008, 02:25 PM
Pixie Magenta whatshername on U Tube said that cats are ourselves in the future - future humans.

Yes - ofcourse they have souls - I think all animals are highly evolved IMHO.:original: I wuv you Mr Biggs.:original:

optimistic
11-04-2008, 02:58 PM
I meow at my cat, and he meows back :D

Heretic
11-04-2008, 06:31 PM
Yup

but I will not express details in public because people think I am crazy enough as it is, and this is a subject that has a heavy believability factor in it

I would only answer serious specific questions by PM on this

martina
11-04-2008, 07:45 PM
Animals have basic feelings, but also human like feelings and are often more human than people.
They have all kinds of feelings. I recognize many feelings and behaviour that children have, like jealouzy/envy, anger, disappointment, expectations. You can encourage them, which give them confidence, I even have seen them having humour and feeling of tenderness of all kinds. The can feel quilty, sad and happy.
Once I was upstars, my dogs where downstairs. First one dog came running upstairs, running round from one room to the other. I recognized immediately that something was wrong, as if he was shouting: "I have not done it, I have not done it, o.. terrible, I have not done it!!
my second dog came up, very slowely, with head bowed en put herself flat on the ground before my feet, head on the ground, looking straight and sad, as if she was seeking comfort.
I went down to look what has happened and there lay my canary, death under the table. He was escaped and something must have happend, I think he had a heartattack, they have them easily, maybe when my dog wanted to play with him. My dogs remain upstar, what they never do, when I go down.
I called them and they came slowely, lay down and did not want to look at the bird. This is all communication.

Reunite
11-04-2008, 08:31 PM
Thanks everyone for sharing your stories..very inspirational for me. I think I have to work on opening up my third eye now and start the telepathic talk. I am a firm believer our animals have souls..i guess it's up to them where they want to be reincarnated next :original:

Gnosis5
11-04-2008, 08:54 PM
Yup, my dog comes -- or I stay.



Lets put it this way, if my dog does not get to ascend then neither do I. I'm staying put.

granny
11-05-2008, 12:20 AM
I know intuitively exactly what my two dogs want every single day. I wake up when they have to go outside in the middle of the night without the dogs getting out of bed.... I swear I can hear their thoughts. It is so wonderful. We are very bonded to each other. I also seem to understand my sister's dogs better than she does...it is very interesting to say the least.


Well ... in the past year or two I have learned to communicate with my cats and our dog by using visuals. I have a friend on Unknowncountry (Animalspirits) who has helped me learn this skill. I won't say it works every time ... but I think that may be my failing to figure out what pics to send mentaly ... say for "do not claw that couch." LOL

Just try it ... get thier attention ... make them look at you ... close your eyes and send them a picture mentally. The one I began using early was a picture of me holding them and petting them while sending love.

My animals seemed to respond after a few trys.

I would be interested to hear if anyone else has success with this method.

Gran

Topper
11-05-2008, 12:24 AM
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THE eXchanger
11-05-2008, 12:29 AM
Yup, my dog comes -- or I stay.

your dog is too cute for words ;)

UncaRay
11-05-2008, 01:13 PM
"People will think I am insane."

Yes they will, which is why they can't hear when plants and animals speak to them.
The truth is that the natural world speaks to us constantly if we only shut up for a while and listen. It doesn't speak in words, so we automatically shut out all this communication and knowledge that is available to us when we define "communication" as only involving words. Your dog, who has a sense of smell and hearing thousands of times more acute than yours, and who doesn't think with words, but in smells, sounds, and emotions, is always talking to you. Try raising a puppy, and listen to it. Watch what it does and when it does it. I have a Chow mix named Cinnamon. Her sensitivity to intruders is far beyond any electronic alarm I could buy. By listening to her barks I can tell not only when some creature is approaching, but wether it is a person she knows, or a stranger, or if it is a varmint, or another dog, and enemy, or a friend. By observing where she is looking and how excited she is I can pinpoint the intruder's exact location and how fast it is approaching, or what direction it is moving through the woods, even at midnight in a howling storm. ALL creatures communicate with us constantly, it is we who are deaf and blind.

dayzero
11-05-2008, 01:26 PM
Visvasa, your post ROCKS!


i'm very close to all animals, and can intuit what they want like/don't like, and can read their behaviour as i pick up their emotions and vibes.

i usually know what my cat's thinking [and not just 'feed me now!']

but no words or telpathy as yet, and not for want of trying, but i do try to project images [say, of jumping up on a ledge, or my lap!]

i'm hoping in the 4th density to have full communication, i can think of nothing more fun!

Ashatav
11-05-2008, 01:27 PM
Yessssssss


But they didn't answer me :lightsabre: :lmfao:

Mark
11-05-2008, 01:31 PM
You only need a mouth to talk to an animal - whether what is said is understood is a different question.

With animals most communication takes place with body language and smells, etc - animals understand us much better then they understand us - try blinking at a cat a few times over s short period and he/she will be your friend for life...

turtlecat
11-05-2008, 02:22 PM
On the subject of communicating with animals.
Lobsang Rampa who's work I admired while growing up, communicated with his cats. He had a preferance for the siamese breed. A whole book was written from what one cat communicated to him.

As to my own experiences I have on occation unintentionally found myself understanding
the local birds. One time while living in suburbia (tho close to nature) I went outside and there where magpies making noise. I knew they where saying that the neighbours (humans) where out. So I looked and sure enough it was true.

Birds seem the easiest to understand for me. I have budgies that I love to listen to as well as chooks. I understand them by the sounds they make. Like "we're hungry, feed us"
"who is that?" "what is this she's put here?" or "I'm fed up being in here, I want in the vegi patch"- chooks

A funny incedent that happened while living in country / bush involved Red-Tail Cockatoo's. These are a large noisy breed that hang together in groups. One day while out walking I'd stopped and was trying to meditate under some trees on the other side of a small valley from a group of these characters. Just as I'd entered a state of connection the Cockatoos fly over to where I am and start dropping gumnuts etc on me and making more noise. This of course makes meditation difficult. I have a camera with me so I figure I'll get them on film. By the time I get myself back to 3d and pick up the camera they've flown back across to where they originally where.
Ok, so I go back into my meditive state. same thing happens. The cheeky sods where playing with me. They knew what I was up to and seemed to find it fun to disrupt.

Other times the birds and even frogs go silent when I spread out my awareness during medative states like they are listening. I can still hear other sounds but they seem to pick up ? me ?
It makes me believe that there is some energy or vibration and what I do/did is real.
I do not do this much, if at all. But it is interesting.

turtlecat.





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tom
11-05-2008, 07:05 PM
According to Lou Bandi (aka sleeper) at http://sleeperlou.proboards55.com animals have no soul,Now when he said that,i got really miffed as did everyone else,as i would like to think my dog would be coming with me when this trip is over.But i aint going no where without my dog ralphy.And if i'ts true well i don't know how to tell him but i think he must know because he's been acting real wierd lately he peed on a womans shopping bag the othe day,it was one of those biodegradable bags he must have thought it was a tree.:lmfao:

Shellie
11-05-2008, 08:14 PM
No, but I can hear when the trees cry.

freekatz
11-05-2008, 08:26 PM
According to Lou Bandi (aka sleeper) at http://sleeperlou.proboards55.com animals have no soul,Now when he said that,i got really miffed as did everyone else,as i would like to think my dog would be coming with me when this trip is over.But i aint going no where without my dog ralphy.And if i'ts true well i don't know how to tell him but i think he must know because he's been acting real wierd lately he peed on a womans shopping bag the othe day,it was one of those biodegradable bags he must have thought it was a tree.:lmfao:


How does he know animals have no soul???? To me that is as ridiculous as saying there is no life on other planets:lol3:

Sounds like a rationalization to eat them to me:thumbdown:

tom
11-06-2008, 01:12 AM
He said that the ET he has been in contact with since child-hood told him,BUMMER DUDES HUH!!!.:sad:

Heretic
11-06-2008, 01:19 AM
I think that any living thing that makes a choice has a soul

and those choices are just like the ones we make from a simpler perspective

the more complex the soul, the more complex the puzzle becomes

soul evolution if you will


of course once can argue that you cannot add to a soul

then I ask, why are we here then

Reunite
11-06-2008, 01:33 AM
According to Lou Bandi (aka sleeper) at http://sleeperlou.proboards55.com animals have no soul,

That's the silliest thing I have ever heard. Tom look into your dogs eyes and tell me you can't see a soul behind those eyes looking straight back at you with unconditional love

TranceAm
11-06-2008, 01:48 AM
I would also like to know where our lovable pets go once we ascend into the 4th, 5th density. I heard they won't come flying with us :tears:

Maybe you heard wrong? From someone who doesn't know either, but must keep us humans special from alllllllllll other animals, so he can control other humans.

Have you ever heard someone say " This animal "thinks" he is a human " ;-)
What do you think, they are soul less robots? :welcomeani:

Edit: "look into your dogs eyes and tell me you can't see a soul behind those eyes looking straight back at you with unconditional love"
Yes, you know what I mean. :-)

Reunite
11-06-2008, 02:00 AM
Only a soul can produce a smell thick enough to cut thru air

Heretic
11-06-2008, 02:20 AM
Only a soul can produce a smell thick enough to cut thru air

:lol3:

TranceAm
11-06-2008, 02:26 AM
Only a soul can produce a smell thick enough to cut thru air

Hmmm, does that mean that the bacteria in the digestive tract.. Ahum, NM* :roll1:

Reunite
11-06-2008, 02:34 AM
Hmmm, does that mean that the bacteria in the digestive tract.. Ahum, NM* :roll1:

Excuse my ignorance but what does NM stand for? I did a google search and the first two results that came up was Nudist Meeting or Nano Metre

TranceAm
11-06-2008, 02:44 AM
Excuse my ignorance but what does NM stand for? I did a google search and the first two results that came up was Nudist Meeting or Nano Metre

Eh.. NeverMind* . ;-)

Edit, although I just in a conversation on irc.2012info.ca Channel #Avalon mentioned that in relation with that post:

"Well, its backward reasoning, to life that creates smell, besides animals.... ALTHOUGH, it might be very posible, that Bacteria have a soul, but it is rendered almost incapable of doing anything in its environment... Not unlike us with our high tech "interface" with hands feet, eyes ears and all that kind of luxury stuff :-)"

Topper
11-06-2008, 02:47 AM
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Reunite
11-06-2008, 02:58 AM
Eh.. NeverMind* . ;-)

Edit, although I just in a conversation on irc.2012info.ca Channel #Avalon mentioned that in relation with that post:

"Well, its backward reasoning, to life that creates smell, besides animals.... ALTHOUGH, it might be very posible, that Bacteria have a soul, but it is rendered almost incapable of doing anything in its environment... Not unlike us with our high tech "interface" with hands feet, eyes ears and all that kind of luxury stuff :-)"

Thanks for the clarification :original:

Xeon
11-06-2008, 04:56 PM
I know that God sent a dog to comfort my family and me, during a time of grief some years back.....

It was really strange...but it just goes to show that we must never underestimate our animal friends....

Wish I could talk to animals.

capreycorn
11-06-2008, 05:20 PM
talking to animals is more effective when thinking of what is said in pictures at the same time..(the language barrier:naughty:)

hope i am not going too far off the mark here…….
a few years ago i was with my girlfriend in phuket, where one day a cat showed up outside our room at the boat lagoon resort at around 4 am , just before i was about to open the sliding door to the terrace to smoke a cigarette, that cat jumped into view….i did not want to be disturbed by a cat begging for food, so i decided to smoke outside the entrance door of the apartment (which was on the oposite side of the bulding). i peered through the main door`s window just to find that the cat was already waiting for me…i then started going back and forth between the terrace door and the main door for a couple of times just to find that the cat was really persistent and must have had x-ray vision because she did not move on the other side of the wall before i moved….i could see from the shower room window (about mid-ways) , that she was always at the same level with me ……
i gave up ..i just went out the main door and sat on the stairs under the cloudless sky and lit up……i was not used to the strong thai cigarettes (falling rain)..so after a few puffs, i started to feel quite dizzy but did not move..i just sat there leaning against the wall “enjoying” the dizzyness, that was when i noticed that the cat, just sitting 2 meters in front of me on a step, was rocking back and forth, even rotating her upper half like someone totally drunk but she did not take her eyes off me …it was as if she felt what i feel ……………..maybe even tried to show what is wrong with me……after about 10 minutes i decided go to the terrace and hang in the chair until my drowsiness would be over…..the cat was already waiting for me at the sliding door…i sat down outside on the chair facing the cat and we just sat there both staring at each other for another 10 minutes (i was puzzled…)….i thought maybe i should give her some milk…leaving the door open, i went inside, put some milk in a plate and put it on the floor…she did not care for the milk…just followed me and kept staring….then came closer, stopping in front of my feet, hesitating and all of a sudden digging her claws into my right foot for a second, then jumping back looking totally scared, with its fur standing….she stayed and stared at me again from 1meter distance…but this time she also started “talking” a bit (it sounded like she was complaining…….i said: ” hey! what`s the matter with you!!!?”…..she stared at me again looking just as puzzled as i was, turned around slowly and left for good……………………………………………………………………
a week later i was at a friends house in bangkok ( my girlfriend`s best friend)…. she had the habit of inviting fortune tellers to her town-house once in a while…she said that it was a real good one and that the things he told her in the past were on the mark…..so the fortune teller came one night…….we took our turns …. when my girlfriend came up to our (guest) room to tel me that it was my turn, my lack-of-sleep-and-too-much-alcohol-headache reached its migraine-like climax….i slowly went down to the living room and slumped into the couch opposite the fortune teller…..he smiled, told me that my aura had 3 layers (i think it was blue, yellow, purple) and that my right leg had some greenish colour….i remembered the cat attacking my right foot and asked him if it was because of the cat…he shook his head and said that it was due to a past-life prisoner of war thing and foot-chains…(besides that and a lot more…… he said he would transfer some energy to me so i could get rid of my headache ((nobody else knew that and i never mentioned it to him))…the migraine was gone within a minute after he said it)…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… in a nutshell……………………………………………………………………………………………………… i have learned from a thai-cat (animal) …..that cats know a few things about me that i don`t know…….and sometimes, when they talk to me, it`s probably more than just small talk; they might try to tell me things that are important……………………………………..since then i pay much more attention to the animals that come across………………………………………………..i also found that when crows (or a crow) fly dangerously close up to me, they are telling me to stop whatever i am intending to do……(i had to learn it the hard way a few years ago, i ignored it …………….., then i smashed my car in an accident)
..........

i also want to mention that i learned from bees and bumblebees that they do understand, react to and even respect thoughts and intentions……….they come close when i think about them (sort of focused invitation-thought) and they do leave when i wish them to leave (no words or gestures needed)…..(i did not try this with hornets….out of respect)……(it did not work with flies or mosquitos …yet!…it`s just that i get ****** by them before i manage to thînk and focus/concentrate …).

......animals were said to have souls in the past which were equal to "our" souls....i think they still have it; maybe we as humans have merely left the animal soul density behind........just a thought..............

in ancient china, people learned from animals which herbs are good for wound healing and can save your life even when you`re an ER case……..also the monkey kung fu style..and all the other forms….all copied from animals…(learned from them...over a caffee latte?)
when i was small i learned to lick my wound when hurt…. learned from animals, maybe through communication ? (don`t remember)
….maybe it is in our genes as well…
i think animals do not know self pitty……they live their lives not regretting anything and when they die or get killed they might struggle but they do not have that fear of dying as we do…..no ego ..they do not make a story of their life…in a way they live their life to the fullest, all senses and instinct fully alert….
animals don`t know how humans torture themselves with angsts, worries…trying to be conform and sociable.....which can be such a pain…
we could learn a lot from them…be more like them……..no scruples just lust for blood and life..—! yep!:mf_boff:

QueenOfLeon
11-06-2008, 06:15 PM
Visvasa144 thats fabulous! I totally believe you and I am envious att he clarity you have hearing them! mines just a feeling I get! I dont agree with the whole dog soul becoming human soul though. Ihave read from many sources that animals are from a different soul group and a different level of consiousness. they are alot purer than us and no way as corruptible. They dont need to learn these lessons. They have a different purpose.

Just what i read....

Gnosis5
11-06-2008, 08:41 PM
In the beginning we all shared paradise. Man, woman, the beasts of the field.
We all lived together in PEACE.
We all lived together in LOVE.
We all lived together in HARMONY.
This is the place to which we must return.
Through enlightenment we will.
And when we enter into the light, all of our questions will be answered as we will be accepted into the Galactic order of our Universe.

Peace, love and harmony...Topper

Do you recall the last book of the New Testament where it says that the lion will lie down with the lamb and the predators will eat grass? In our current system, given the biology of predatory carnivores, how can that be made true?

Will we re-engineer all carnivores? Or will we re-engineer grass to look like a zebra? :roll1:

Reunite
11-06-2008, 08:50 PM
a few years ago i was with my girlfriend in phuket, where one day a cat showed up outside our room at the boat lagoon resort at around 4 am , just before i was about to open the sliding door to the terrace to smoke a cigarette, that cat jumped into view….i did not want to be disturbed by a cat begging for food, so i decided to smoke outside the entrance door of the apartment (which was on the oposite side of the bulding). i peered through the main door`s window just to find that the cat was already waiting for me…i then started going back and forth between the terrace door and the main door for a couple of times just to find that the cat was really persistent and must have had x-ray vision because she did not move on the other side of the wall before i moved….i could see from the shower room window (about mid-ways) , that she was always at the same level with me ……


Great story Capreycorn. The cat from Thailand with the stealth movements reminds of

The Ninja Cat

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=muLIPWjks_M

Peer
11-06-2008, 10:26 PM
You find all kinds of personality's among animals from dramaqueens to philosofers, from lazybones to 24/7 workers.

Yes of course animals, like all living beings have souls and spirits.
Even crystals (or should I say above all) communicate.
Rocks on the road.
When I walk through the forest I hear the birds warning each other and all other animals there is coming a human.

How could anyone say that another form of the creating energy has no soul?
Is that depending on form? Skincolour maybe? Density?

It is only 150 years ago that the colour of your skin detemened if you had a soul or not and if you had no soul someone could buy or sell you as if you were his property.

Well you can not own anything because everything has a soul and therefore the right to be free.

capreycorn
11-08-2008, 07:17 PM
Great story Capreycorn. The cat from Thailand with the stealth movements reminds of

The Ninja Cat

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=muLIPWjks_M

that is some amazing cat.:thumb_yello:..but i wouldn`t want to have that cat around when watching "the ring" or any other japanese horror movie.
did you see those eyes!? :hypo:

cheers:original: