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OMG
11-04-2008, 08:47 PM
Warning!

Voters are mindless sheeple and doing exactly what the illuminati wishes.

If you want to make change - then LIVE it - don't GIVE it (away)!

:mfr_omg:

Note: They wouldn't allow me to post this until now - obviously too late for many.

mntruthseeker
11-04-2008, 08:50 PM
Sorry, Too Late

I went and did my duty but I was awake


What a joke eh?

I can hardly wait for the fun to begin:sneaky2:

777 The Great Work
11-04-2008, 09:02 PM
ELECT THE ELECT :wall::mfr_lol:

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JoshG_528hz
11-04-2008, 09:06 PM
i've never voted, never will. (even though i'm only 19)
i don't understand how people think their vote means something. i guess if millions of people flooded the polls and cast votes for Ron Paul it would mean something, but even if that happened electoral college would most likely vote Mccain or Obama. anyways, i agree with your statement other than the "mindless sheeple" part because some people are awake to what's happening and vote because they feel that if they don't, they've given up 'the fight'. in the end it comes down to "to each his own"

peace and love

GregorArturo
11-04-2008, 09:27 PM
Amen.

In 9th grade, Ricky Martin won our school election for president by a landslide, I believe 60%, as a write in lol.

herbivore
11-04-2008, 09:30 PM
i'm 21, a registered voter, but i didn't vote. the enlightenment has...enlightened me to the bigger and better picture. voting is useless, and voters are powerless. there is no law requiring our representatives to vote according to their respective state's popular vote for a reason. recently with everyone talking about voting and how proud they seem to be boasting for voting, i've found it particularly difficult to enlighten the sheeple who haven't woken up yet. they have it burned into their brains that every vote counts and their government works exactly how the TV and educational system tells them it does.

noam chomsky goes into great detail of how the sheeple came to be in Manufacturing Consent. If you haven't seen it yet, it's time you should:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=manufacturing+consent&emb=1&aq=f#

Rocky_Shorz
11-04-2008, 09:36 PM
I voted for the crispy cream donut and Starbucks...

mmmmmmmmmm:tongue2:

herbivore
11-04-2008, 09:39 PM
I voted for the crispy cream donut and Starbucks...

mmmmmmmmmm:tongue2:

some call it perks, some call it propaganda and corporate sponsorship. haha

Whitewolf
11-04-2008, 09:45 PM
noam chomsky goes into great detail of how the sheeple came to be in Manufacturing Consent. If you haven't seen it yet, it's time you should

Pretty ironic that Chomsky, who's a supposed social liberatarian (aka "anarchist") chose to endorse Obama this time around. Chomsky, for all his cumbersome intellectualism, always seems to ditch his "true" base at the most crucial moments. I think of him as a "leftwing gatekeeper". I don't trust him.

herbivore
11-04-2008, 09:53 PM
you will always find problems when you mix people's personal life with their professional life. i've found it best to take a person's work for what it's worth and not let their supposed personal contradictions interfere with the positively great influence of their work.

Shellie
11-04-2008, 10:33 PM
I am voting and I an taking my children along with me so they can see what it was like to have a say in something. They are aware that things aren't as they learn in school, but I want to be an example for them to at least learn to seize whatever opportunity they get instead of being constantly apathetic and whiny about everything and letting others make decisions for them. This is one way to speak up; certainly no one is listening, but at least we are speaking up.

Will my vote matter? No. We are choosing different wings from the same bird, AGAIN. This state is leaning heavily to one side, so my one vote won't matter much. And both the candidates are paid for and propped up by NWO thugs. But maybe my kids one day will sit down at the dinner table twenty years from now and one will say "Do you remember when...?"

America is an experiment. A lot of garbage has gotten in the way of this experiment and has ruined it. But the experiment itself is not a failure. I choose to still believe in the ideas this country was built upon. Just because people became lazy and comfortable and didn't pay attention and stop what is happening doesn't mean that when this empire falls it can't be replanted. Our 200 years are up. This country can collapse into a heap, but the NATION (people with the same ideals) I hope will still be here. The land will still be here. If we forget it, or if we forget the strength and the courage the founding fathers had, then we are done for. The rug has been ripped out from under us, so now is our chance to stand up and fix what is wrong. The system is collapsing out from under us. I can't think of a better time to re-think and recreate the world we want to live in. But we have to take that world past our front doors. We have to get it out of our heads.

BTW, I'm writing in George Carlin. The guy may be dead but I can't think of anyone more worthy to be President, even if he thinks the experiment is a joke.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pUM9l-obnrw

Suriel
11-04-2008, 10:35 PM
I've been getting phone calls all day for campaigns to ask me to vote.
And the ironic thing is if I wanted to vote, I can't. Because my wife is out of town and I will miss the deadline. Polls close at 7:30 p.m.

Oh well, call it fate.

But, I am sure they will be getting enough votes.
And I will be glad when they stop calling.

Irving
11-04-2008, 10:52 PM
I wrote in Ron Paul, even though I know that he has no shot. Might as well make my disgust with the two party system known.

Kahunamahalo
11-05-2008, 12:50 AM
I am voting and I an taking my children along with me so they can see what it was like to have a say in something. They are aware that things aren't as they learn in school, but I want to be an example for them to at least learn to seize whatever opportunity they get instead of being constantly apathetic and whiny about everything and letting others make decisions for them. This is one way to speak up; certainly no one is listening, but at least we are speaking up.

Will my vote matter? No. We are choosing different wings from the same bird, AGAIN. This state is leaning heavily to one side, so my one vote won't matter much. And both the candidates are paid for and propped up by NWO thugs. But maybe my kids one day will sit down at the dinner table twenty years from now and one will say "Do you remember when...?"

America is an experiment. A lot of garbage has gotten in the way of this experiment and has ruined it. But the experiment itself is not a failure. I choose to still believe in the ideas this country was built upon. Just because people became lazy and comfortable and didn't pay attention and stop what is happening doesn't mean that when this empire falls it can't be replanted. Our 200 years are up. This country can collapse into a heap, but the NATION (people with the same ideals) I hope will still be here. The land will still be here. If we forget it, or if we forget the strength and the courage the founding fathers had, then we are done for. The rug has been ripped out from under us, so now is our chance to stand up and fix what is wrong. The system is collapsing out from under us. I can't think of a better time to re-think and recreate the world we want to live in. But we have to take that world past our front doors. We have to get it out of our heads.

BTW, I'm writing in George Carlin. The guy may be dead but I can't think of anyone more worthy to be President, even if he thinks the experiment is a joke.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pUM9l-obnrw


Good for you and well said. And for those who do not do their civic duty, you should have no say in anything about our country.

herbivore
11-05-2008, 01:02 AM
Good for you and well said. And for those who do not do their civic duty, you should have no say in anything about our country.

on the contrary, those of you who do vote are the ones who voted in the politicians who got us into this heap, so you 'should have no say in anything about our country.' on the other hand, I did not vote or support the politicians that you do. do you still say i have no right to 'say anything about our country'?

Kahunamahalo
11-05-2008, 01:04 AM
Damn right. Do not participate in the process, stand on the sidelines

Shadowstalker
11-05-2008, 01:08 AM
If one does not vote for the lesser of any evil, as far as i am concerned, They do have a right to complain cause why should I/they deal with Crapulance anyway.

Our civic duty is to make sure we have the right so called leader, and if neither are qualified, then don't vote. :thumb_yello: None are qualified

Garbage is garbage, no what it looks like, it still stinks.

herbivore
11-05-2008, 01:09 AM
side lines of what? you don't participate in your local ku klux klan but i bet you have lots of criticism for them.

Kahunamahalo
11-05-2008, 01:11 AM
Then write in a candidate. Every citizen has the duty, the obligation to voice their opinion with their vote, thats all we have. People get the government that they deserve. Go ahead, don't vote.

DoctorWho
11-05-2008, 01:18 AM
I vote Green for President, Representative and Senator.
Bill "the Doctor"

Humble Janitor
11-05-2008, 01:31 AM
Warning!

Voters are mindless sheeple and doing exactly what the illuminati wishes.

If you want to make change - then LIVE it - don't GIVE it (away)!

:mfr_omg:

Note: They wouldn't allow me to post this until now - obviously too late for many.

I don't appreciate being called a sheep.

You obviously don't have anything to offer this site.

Be gone!

Kahunamahalo
11-05-2008, 01:32 AM
Amen

Humble Janitor
11-05-2008, 01:33 AM
Also, I wonder if the original poster feels some sense of elitist superiority because he/she did not vote like the "sheep"?

371
11-05-2008, 01:35 AM
Warning!

Voters are mindless sheeple and doing exactly what the illuminati wishes.

If you want to make change - then LIVE it - don't GIVE it (away)!

:mfr_omg:


Don't bust MY balls because YOU aren't voting. If you don't like a candidate then write one in. If you think they're both bad- then pick your poison. If you can vote and choose not to-fine, then don't complain about politics. Ever.

If voters are mindless sheeple, then okay- you only want THEIR votes to count?? If anything look at it as your vote offsetting the 'sheeple'. Not that it matters now...

Like it or not we're all 'sheep' in their eyes. It's just your choice if you're gonna run away from the herd.

Next time, instead of not voting just go and write in "F*** YOU"... you'll feel better.

Kahunamahalo
11-05-2008, 01:35 AM
Not sure about that but I'll bet that he has bad eyesight

Shellie
11-05-2008, 01:35 AM
Oh man....

Orion11
11-05-2008, 01:51 AM
too late!! already done.

yes I voted for Obama. lol

herbivore
11-05-2008, 02:02 AM
wow you guys have a lot of negative things to say, that's not very enlightened of you. we all know 'sheeple' are the majority of the population and they dominate the majority of the votes in elections. independent and green parties get such a minuscule amount of support in comparison to the democratic and republican parties already, if i wrote my choice for president it would be useless, a waste of time effort energy and resources.

of course this whole scenario is assuming that there is no voter fraud. :mfr_lol:

Kahunamahalo
11-05-2008, 02:05 AM
wow you guys have a lot of negative things to say, that's not very enlightened of you. we all know 'sheeple' are the majority of the population and they dominate the majority of the votes in elections. independent and green parties get such a minuscule amount of support in comparison to the democratic and republican parties already, if i wrote my choice for president it would be useless, a waste of time effort energy and resources.

of course this whole scenario is assuming that there is no voter fraud. :mfr_lol:

Just what I thought, we are dealing with a child here. When you get a few years of wisdom on you, c'mon back eh son?

MargueriteBee
11-05-2008, 02:14 AM
There are no sheeples, simply differing states of awareness. You are all, love all. It's okay if you voted or not.

Kelphi
11-05-2008, 02:40 AM
If you vote 3rd party you take away the McCain vote and usher in the biggest baby killer the earth has known. Ron Paul will be the first to tell you not to do that.

Ignorance is no excuse to not shed your light.

Humble Janitor
11-05-2008, 02:50 AM
I think the anti-Obama people are the REAL sheeple here ,since they allow FEAR to dictate everything they say about the man.

PodWORLD
11-05-2008, 03:00 AM
Take it down a thousand.

On Fox News they're winding up Brit Hume who is covering his last prez election by passing segments to him unexpectadly which I'm finding rather human. Sean Hannity is on milk cartons at this point.

Whether a dem or rep wins we'll all be here tomorrow and we'll all be trying to create a better tomorrow I hope because guess what - it is possible.

herbivore
11-05-2008, 03:01 AM
excuse me Kahunamahalo, maybe instead of condescendingly calling me a child you could debate my point?

the term "sheeple" is synonymous with the unawakened souls, that should be obvious.

IMO, if you vote third party you're not putting a dent in anything. let's be real here, voting third party is like voting in a different election. it's all the dem and rep parties.

can someone explain to me the logic behind thinking a vote towards a third party (or any other non dem & rep party for this matter) will cancel the vote of someone else? how exactly does that work? are you saying because i vote Luke Skywalker, some vote somewhere for someone other than Luke disappears? say 500,000,000 vote, half dem and half rep, and my 1 vote goes for Luke and the rebellion. my vote doesn't cancel out anything because it's for a third party and therefore not nearly on the level of the democratic or republican votes.

Kahunamahalo
11-05-2008, 03:02 AM
excuse me Kahunamahalo, maybe instead of condescendingly calling me a child you could debate my point?

the term "sheeple" is synonymous with the unawakened souls, that should be obvious.

IMO, if you vote third party you're not putting a dent in anything. let's be real here, voting third party is like voting in a different election. it's all the dem and rep parties.

can someone explain to me the logic behind thinking a vote towards a third party (or any other non dem & rep party for this matter) will cancel the vote of someone else? how exactly does that work? are you saying because i vote Luke Skywalker, some vote somewhere for someone other than Luke disappears? say 500,000,000 vote, half dem and half rep, and my 1 vote goes for Luke and the rebellion. my vote doesn't cancel out anything because it's for a third party and therefore not nearly on the level of the democratic or republican votes.

I rest my case.

Kelphi
11-05-2008, 03:07 AM
herb,

Put the pipe down for a moment and rethink what you just said.

herbivore
11-05-2008, 03:08 AM
yes please continue to not answer my question.

what a great 'wise' model you are being, elder.

herbivore
11-05-2008, 03:11 AM
herb,

Put the pipe down for a moment and rethink what you just said.

truth is i'm vegetarian, but of course you'd never think of something like that before you condescend my character.

Allie
11-05-2008, 03:18 AM
Hope you don't mind if I pop in here :original: I'm not from the USA so obviously, I can't say much about the elections because they work very differently from ours.

The only thing I would like to say is to do with this word 'sheeple'. I have to say, I don't much like it because it does seem to be used as an insult.

From what I've seen over the last couple of years, there are insights, predictions, 'truths', and the like which are said with great certainty - and sometimes turn out to be incorrect. There are some people in the know (and/or channellers) who themselves are just passing on information. For every belief there is someone to oppose it or to colour it in a slightly different way. How do we know who is right and who is wrong?

The minute we follow anyone's view we are following something which is 2nd hand. And we are still 'following' someone. By that logic, just about everyone is a 'sheeple'.

Someone on this forum (I forget who) said that it's best not to get hung up on every bit of information that arises, but to let it wash through you, using it as and when - and if - it is needed. I may not have his/her words exactly right, but that's the gist of them. To me, they seem wise words.:original:

Sir-Chi
11-05-2008, 03:31 AM
ya ... 2000 election pretty much showed me what was really up. Since then nothing has change but only became worse as far as the whole voting system ... election thing.

In 2004 i wrote in Dennis Kicinich even though i know he wasn't going to win. I felt i couldn't sell myself out ..... so i told my truth.

I feel every time we vote RED/ BLUE you empower that exact thing your looking to get ride of.

Thee puppets are SELECTED not ELECTED ..... we all know this ....

Lets hold vision for an internal shift .... organic ... to only demand truth from here on out .... If Obama puppet begins to do anything except that of which he promissed .... WE THE PEOPLE must not allow no more alterations for the lower energies ... dark minded beings .... for their moment is over NOW!

Ya .... time i wrote someone in and now i'm not voting anymore at all. I live in center city Phila ... i'm in the heart of the election stuff .... its everywhere ......

I'm no long support a dying system which no longer nor every really did support the people.

2 A rIsE in Consciousness
with much,
love, light and laughter
sc

herbivore
11-05-2008, 03:34 AM
Allie, i agree with you 100%.

i realize the word 'sheeple' can be offensive and to my defense, i only used it in order to carry the contexts of which it is normally used into these contexts.

Shellie
11-05-2008, 03:35 AM
Some food for thought:

I know it is too late for most of us to get up and vote if we weren't planning on it, but I would like to share something I saw ten years ago.

I was in Syria between January and March of 1999. During that time, Hafez Al-Assad was getting ready to be elected president for life.

All of the major cities were decorated with both Ba'ath party and Syrian flags. Al-Assad's picture was on EVERYTHING (not just the walls of peoples' homes and in the schools)... There was not one building in Damascus that didn't have huge 20-foot flags hanging out all the windows.

Around election time there were parties in the streets. School kids were bussed by the thousands to rallying locations, and it was so packed in some areas you couldn't move.

I was going to comment on the absurdity of the excitement of these people since they hate their government and its control and are literally FORCED to vote... until I was reminded to keep my mouth shut because our cab driver might be able to understand English and might be a spy.

Kelphi
11-05-2008, 03:41 AM
Herbivore,

Sorry dude. Its like this. Only one of two parties can actually win. No third party can ever win. Its just a fact. So if there is only two and you vote 3rd party or don't vote at all you have not added to the two candidates you have taken away from them. One is greater than zero.

Frank Samuel
11-05-2008, 03:50 AM
:eyes:If I don't vote I am a mindless sheep !!! Oh is it the other way around.
Shucks I guess I am a mindless sheep, wow that includes the moderators and founders of this forum which endorse Obama. Ouch !!!!:mfr_omg::naughty:The old saying goes if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem,:eyes:I am a mindless sheep. Just kidding folks you guys take yourself too seriously:naughty::cup:

Allie
11-05-2008, 03:57 AM
Hi HerbThat fine :original: I wasn't pointing any fingers at any individuals.:original:The word puzzles me because in all of this stuff that's going on, the reality is, not a soul knows the definitive truths. All anyone knows is what they are being told by someone else. It's really a question of who you follow rather than 'if'.When our elections come around in 2010, I'll vote. All I'll have to go on is what I hear, what I see, what I've experienced in the past and the extent to which I am able to discern the validity of what I hear/see/feel. The only way I would 'know' is if I get a chance to be a fly on the wall in the private meetings of Brown/Cameron/Clegg. Which is an impossibility.I'll vote because not doing so seems to me to be playing into the hands of a possible psychological situation. If no one turns out, the public may look like a bit of a push-over. If people come out in force, at least those in power realise that they care and that it may not be that easy to dupe them. :original:

herbivore
11-05-2008, 04:28 AM
Herbivore,

Sorry dude. Its like this. Only one of two parties can actually win. No third party can ever win. Its just a fact. So if there is only two and you vote 3rd party or don't vote at all you have not added to the two candidates you have taken away from them. One is greater than zero.

first of all, i never said voting third party or not voting is adding to any candidates support, i don't know where you came up with that one.

secondly, do you not see the hypocrisy in your own statement? you said yourself it's a fact that the third party can never win. what have i taken away from the two main parties by voting for a separate party that has no chance to win? the minuscule fraction of the population that i represent does not cancel the vote of another unless i was voting for one of the two major parties.

if we were all asked our favorite color (out of the the infinite possibilities of color) and my vote was for purple and yours for red, my vote would not cancel out your vote; it would only add to the supporters of purple, and yours for red. it would not and could not 'cancel' your vote for red unless the only options were purple and red.

Frank69
11-05-2008, 09:53 AM
Hope you don't mind if I pop in here :original: I'm not from the USA so obviously, I can't say much about the elections because they work very differently from ours.:original:

Or maybe not they work differently...:naughty: