Election results!!!

[Rocky_Shorz]

I thought it would be good to get a thread started for tonights election results...

McCain is ahead right now by 5% and almost 3 times the electoral votes.

Fox news (http://www.foxnews.com/)

[Rocky_Shorz]

wow, McCain has 4 times the Electoral votes now...

13 to 3

[PodWORLD]

It's a landslide Rocky!

In Indiana Obama although behind has already made gains.

Election tracker here and you can check state by state to see county figures.

http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/

[Tuza]

Does that mean a McCain win. I remember when Michael St Clair stated that he saw Palin as President - it seems a while since MSC has been here.

[karmakah]

Hmmmm, maybe George Green is wrong...

[mntruthseeker]

No way will mccain win it would be rigged. I don't like either of them, but I will take obama as the lesser of two evils. Oh geeze Please not mccain

[khristmaskathy]

McCain 21 electoral votes
Obama 3 electoral votes


....and counting...

[Tuza]

Could they rig another one :nono:

[Jenny]

I thought it would be good to get a thread started for tonights election results...

McCain is ahead right now by 5% and almost 3 times the electoral votes.

Fox news (http://www.foxnews.com/)


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7697829.stm

http://edition.cnn.com/

[PodWORLD]

Eh no. Early states are 'red' historically and if you view the tracker I posted and compare to 2004 you will see Obama is going to win Indiana and North Carolina. Add all the big coastal states with the mega college votes and this is going to be a big Obama win. Only time will tell if that's a good or bad or indifferent thing.

[Dusty Nothing]

Looks like we may have taken obama for granted folks....

I don't count him out yet though, nor do i think any candidate would be a positive influence.

[371]

No way will mccain win it would be rigged. I don't like either of them, but I will take obama as the lesser of two evils. Oh geeze Please not mccain

Yeah, I don't think America is prepared for what'll happen if Mccain wins- I'm not talking about the next four years, I'm talking about tomorrow...

Anyway, right now its 3-16 Mccain leading. But they need 270 votes to win. It's too early to tell.

You know it's been explained to me before but I still don't really understand the electoral college.

[MAP]

I am here sorta freaking out... im afraid if mcbush wins there will be riots..
:crybaby:

[Frank Samuel]

77 electoral votes for Obama
34 electoral votes for McCain

[Tuza]

You beat me to it MAP, I was just thinking that before. I have a feeling your right on that score, if McCain wins there will be civil ... :nono:

[PodWORLD]

Count it now.

Obama 77 - 34 McCain.

It's going to be a big win for Obama. Oh and CNN have reporters appearing as holograms! It wasn't amazing but......

[Antaletriangle]

77 obama to 27 mccain on the bbc at the moment.

[Antaletriangle]

84 obama to 27 mccain on the bbc at the moment.

[MAP]

Count it now.

Obama 77 - 34 McCain.

It's going to be a big win for Obama. Oh and CNN have reporters appearing as holograms! It wasn't amazing but......


I know I seen that WTF!!!!!
I dont think they have ever done that before on the news...

[Jenny]

103
34


It is going fast now

[PodWORLD]

Yeah I thought she was going to say you're our only hope Obi Wan.

[Anticomuna]

103
34


It is going fast now

Dude, isn't it just a projection? It is still 81x39 for now.

[Jenny]

sorry, a stupid european mod...excuse me..a projection yes.:zip:

:original:

[Frank Samuel]

Anti it sounds like you need a hanky, hey is still closed.:naughty:

[THE eXchanger]

Voting glitches spark lawsuits
Delays and missteps lead to disputes, but most voters take it all in stride
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27534128/?dst=d08ElectionNightWidget

[Kelphi]

Look out, Obama the baby killer is on the rise.

[PodWORLD]

A considerate edit exchanger, cheers.

CNN just called Penn. Game over.

Below is a link of Clinton prez pardons as posted elsewhere by me. Gives an idea of what Dubya's job entails for the rest of the year.

2001 has Marc Rich, Pincus Green and the enigmatic Adolph Schwimmer. Also Fife Symington familiar to UFO obs and a lotta folks from Arkansas.

[PodWORLD]

Apologies link here

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm#january202001

[Frank Samuel]

102 electoral votes for Obama
34 electoral votes for McCain

Ouch !!! Throw rocks at me why don't you !!!:naughty:
Is going to be a long night of reflection....:mfr_omg::cup::lmao:

[Orion11]

woot!

jus thought id tell you all I voted for Obama. lol

:tongue2:

[PodWORLD]

I'm glad for you Orion.

I hope we all remmember to temper any thoughts of retribution against perceived negative Obama posters. They said what they thought and felt which is cool.

Now we have to move on and forward together. Dems are going to have a lot of power from Jan and we're all in this together.

[Frank Samuel]

Okay I love country music , I know why the republicans lost. I'm listening to Hank Williams Jr. and my ears are hurting this guy is deaf tone, so much for positive frequencies through music. Ouch Hank you are hurting my ears !!!:naughty::shocked: Go Hank go, just don't sing you making me cry:lmfao::naughty:

[Shellie]

These aren't real election results, just projections based on the results of the precincts that have announced their results. Many of these states that are projected only have 20-30% of precincts reporting. If you open your browsers to several news sites you'll notice that.

[PodWORLD]

You're quite right Shellie. I posted the CNN link because it allows you to check by county also as well as compare to 2004.

If you tally guaranteed states blue and red (I don't like those terms either) Obama is going to win. As Ive said earlier whomever wins should be held fast against their campaign promises and there should be no recriminations.

[Shellie]

Wow.. McCain is leading Nebraska by SIXTEEN VOTES!!! (according to CNN)

[Allie]

Here in the UK it's 3am, but I'm still up, watching the US election results. We don't have anything like the campaigns and elections that you have - so it's quite intriguing :original:

What we have here is 207 for Obama and 135 for McCain.

Those presenting the results are both English and American, with commentary from a mixed UK/USA sort of informal panel.

Of course, as our system doesn't work anything like the USA I haven't a clue what a College vote is, or how it all works. Still,they are saying that although they are speaking in terms of projections, they would be extend into reasonably accurate figures because there is far more caution when giving these out because of the last electoral problems.

Or something like that:original: It is 3am, after all :lol3:

[Frank Samuel]

Hey Shellie here's your chance to make a projection .
What do you think , McCain or Obama.:naughty:
Texas is not going to be the same.
If UT had 50,000 students with Obama is going to increase to 80,000 wow!!!
Watch out Austin !!!:thumb_yello:

[Shellie]

Hah hah, if you look at the county map, Austin (Travis county) is blue and everything around it is red.

But honestly, I think here in Austin Ron Paul won... :P

[John aka#404]

:mfr_omg::mfr_omg::mfr_omg: what election ????





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[Shellie]

Allie: Basically, the people do not vote in the election, the states do. The weight of each state is based on its population (winner takes all). The electoral college is the actual vote for president- individuals in the EC pledge to vote for the candidate who gets the simple majority vote in their state. If 50.1% of people vote for candidate A and 49.9% vote for candidate B, then candidate A gets the entire weighted vote of the state.

In light of the last few elections the system seems stupid because the winner isn't necessarily the one who wins the majority vote. But this is the way it is set up in order to preserve the rights of the states (which are responsible for preserving the rights of their residents). I personally think it is still stupid (especially the winner takes all part).

[Frank Samuel]

Spoken like a true republican good for you!!!:naughty:
Hey there's still going to be 80,000 students in UT by 2010.:toot:
I love Texas even if it is a republican state, is all good :thumb_yello:
207 electoral votes for Obama
129 electoral votes for Mccain

[PodWORLD]

Again Shellie you make a good point.

When the numbers are in this time like 04 the popular vote will reflect the college vote. Colleges if abused can be like caucuses but in this case that wont be a problem.

I'm a UK citizen and believe UK and US should have a representational system.

I feel for McCain because he is wearing the brunt of the Bush presidency.

[pilot]

Allie: Basically, the people do not vote in the election, the states do. The weight of each state is based on its population (winner takes all). The electoral college is the actual vote for president- individuals in the EC pledge to vote for the candidate who gets the simple majority vote in their state. If 50.1% of people vote for candidate A and 49.9% vote for candidate B, then candidate A gets the entire weighted vote of the state.

In light of the last few elections the system seems stupid because the winner isn't necessarily the one who wins the majority vote. But this is the way it is set up in order to preserve the rights of the states (which are responsible for preserving the rights of their residents). I personally think it is still stupid (especially the winner takes all part).

Agreed, the Electoral College is very stupid.

I do not look forward to going to work tomorrow to face all the glum rednecks if Obama wins-and it looks like he is, in a landslide no less.

He may just be the next illuminati torch bearer-but I do like Michelle Obama-if her spirit and integrity is just an act, it's a darn good one. I'd much rather she be prez...

[Rocky_Shorz]

I'm amazed how close the popular vote is running nationwide.

McCain is doing much better than I expected.

[Allie]

Thanks for that, Shellie :original: I'm still a bit confused but I'm wondering if its similar to the way we do it in the UK.

We are divided into counties (I would think the whole of the UK could fit into one of your states :lol3:). Each county - depending on its size - is likely to be sub-divided by north, south, east and west. Each will have parliamentary candidates - one for each of the political parties that puts up a candidate. (We do have some jokers, like one headed by Screaming Lord Sutch :original:)

People go out and vote for their candidate and it is the one who has the most votes in that particular constituency who wins his/her seat in parliament. The party that wins the most counties (seats) becomes the one who forms a government. Whoever gets the second highest number of seats becomes the opposition. It isn't particularly fair because it doesn't represent the national share of the vote. One party - the third (Liberal Democrats) has been calling for proportional representation for years as it is the fairest way, reflecting the national share of the vote.:original:

If that doesn't make sense, well, it's 3.30am now :original:

[MAP]

:original: click---> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=45787392


and---> http://www.hulu.com/watch/41829/saturday-night-live-mccain-qvc-open#s-p1-st-i1

:mfr_lol:

[PodWORLD]

Bush won the popular vote vote by 3 mill in 04. Obama will win it by more as he will win the college vote by more. He's 1.6 mill ahead at the moment and we're still in the early projection phase ahead of the west coast states.

The intricacies of college votes apply to McCain as well as Obama.

In UK Allie we know you're right. I remember Lab and Con accusing Libs of being centrist. Pick a side they said while they both ended up picking the same one - the centre.

[Shellie]

Hey, who's the republican???

I voted for George Carlin, remember?

[Shellie]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/11/04/mf.electoral.college/

[Allie]

Ah - they always go for the LibDem's throats and yet there are actually some very good people in that party.

In the last general election I was flummoxed by the fact that on a pre-election program, the studio audience booed Tony Blair as he walked on; were indifferent to Michael Howard and cheered Charles Kennedy.

Blair won. Howard was next, Kennedy last. Bewildering, really.:original:

If all the people that said a vote for the LibDem's is wasted actually voted for them........:wink2:

[mysticphoebos]

Its all over, :mfr_omg:

the Illuminati wins again. :wall:

BoRiNg....

[Frank Samuel]

Hey Shellie I'm voting for Shrek , although I love George Carlin.:naughty:
297 electoral votes for Obama
139 electoral votes for McCain

Obama is now president folks !!!

[Allie]

Well, Frank, at least you haven't got a party led by Screaming Lord Sutch:lol3
: Who dresses the part, too.:original:

We have some barmy, fringe parties here in the UK:lol3: But at least it raises the odd smile :original:

[gordon]

Obama WINS President!

As a Australian, I was hoping that John McCain would win. Is Election day in America is a nother 'day that changed the world'? Since U.S.A is a *megapower*. Would the change in President affect the way most-all humans in the world? How are Obama policies on the rest of the world?

[franzBardon]

irregardless of plots and what not, i am in awe and happy obama won !

[Shellie]

It's a projection.

[Allie]

I'm confused, Shellie. It seems pretty definite over here in the UK.

One of the black American members of the informal panel here has been in tears.

Big announcements about the 44th President, with the odd mention of a potential landslide. The McCain people look very glum.

What happens now, then? Projection-wise?:original:

[Orion11]

haha, woot!

No george bush number 3!!

nice job peoples.

[Scooby]

All hail the new Messiah! "It is a rising Sun" (Bill Clinton 2000) This will be the last President the US will ever have. We'll see what kind of change he truly brings. I myself don't think it matters which one won tonight. The change, in my opinion, will be the end of Liberty and Bill of rights. In the words of tiny tim, "God bless us everyone" We're gonna need it.

[Shellie]

Obama supporters drink themselves into a stupor. :biggrin2:

[gordon]

Big announcements about the 44th President, with the odd mention of a potential landslide. The McCain people look very glum.
Atleast McCain in his old, old age has tried to run for President MANY times in the past.

[PodWORLD]

Stick a fork in it. Obama may get 350 college votes.

Leading the popular vote by 2.4 mill with more than half to come in.

[DoctorWho]

Obam-Ha, Obam-Ha, Obam-Ha! Sorry, a little in joke with a podcast I listen to call Radio Free Skaro hosted by 3 Canadians.
Bill "the Doctor"

[dundun305]

god bless america!

[warngen]

lets hope he decriminalizes "it"

[Kelphi]

You think he will say New World Order in his acceptance speech?

[gordon]

god bless america!

(Inrespect To All Americans) How many times in America History has some Yank has shouted 'God Bless America'? Look at the number of 'problems' does America have. If the amount of times a American HAS said 'God Bless America' then count all the problems in America. Would any American would know *IF* God has blessed America?

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[371]

It's over.....cue Journey.

[Rocky_Shorz]

McCain is congratulating Obama...

I wonder if Obama will give thanks to the Chinese & Japanese Illuminati for crashing the world economy the month before the election... :naughty:

[Rocky_Shorz]

Would any American know *IF* God has blessed America?

Yep...:wink2:

[Orion11]

we are still here,
that in itself is a blessing.

[Frank Samuel]

Some of my children, nieces and nephews are dark skin and felt discriminated against because of the color of their skin, so you excuse for tears a falling down my cheeks. Now I can tell my daughters, nieces and nephews that is okay to be dark skin be proud of who you are for it really does not matter how you look in the outside is what is inside that counts.:thumb_yello: Is okay if you want to be a cynic, hope your children will never be discriminated against. This is a historical moment irregardless of what you may think.:yay::giveup: Tomorrow is another day folks, my friends and nephews who died in 911 and in this war will never come back but at least the war will soon end, I am done being angry at this goverment. I pray the troops can come home soon and that we can begin to heal this world. I care not to win a senseless war,I just want peace.

[gordon]

Since the President of the America does have the power. One command could affect the rest of the world for 1000 years...that type of power... How would Obama shape the world.

[Orion11]

Some of my children, nieces and nephews are dark skin and felt discriminated against because of the color of their skin, so you excuse for tears a falling down my cheeks. Now I can tell my daughters, nieces and nephews that is okay to be dark skin be proud of who you are for it really does not matter how you look in the outside is what is inside that counts.:thumb_yello::wub2 Is okay if you want to be a cynic, hope your children will never be discriminated against. This is a historical moment irregardless of what you may think.:yay::giveup: Tomorrow is another day folks, my friends and nephews who died in 911 and in this war will never come back but at least the war will soon end, I am done being angry at this goverment. I pray the troops can come home soon and that we can begin to heal this world. I care not to win a senseless war,I just want peace.

:wub2:

[Orion11]

Since the President of the America does have the power. One command could affect the rest of the world for 1000 years...that type of power... How would Obama shape the world.


we will just have to see wont we.

[WineHippie]

*

[deb003]

I was not too thrilled about either candidate but I do feel that this is a day of joy for many who in the past couldn't even sit in the same bus or drink water from the same tap and this is a day to celebrate that racism is dying everyday.It's not dead yet, but we are definitely evolving as humans.
Slowly but surely.
Now let's hope Obama doesn't screw it up in the white house! LOL

[PodWORLD]

I can't say that I've felt strongly about either candidate. During the election I felt McCain was more erratic in behaviour partly I think because he was genuinely torn between reality and necessity.

Perhaps the PTB have a plan that involved ending slavery, ending segregation, promoting civil rights and enabling minorites and women that they have the right to lead.

I've watched these candidates since the beginning run themselves into the ground physically and emotionally. Maybe it's a show but they still did it. Kudos to them and now we have to hold Obama to his promises.

It's easy to sit and sneer but an amazing thing did just happen.

[Tabula_Rasa]

OK, bit drunk, 04:41 uk time, pretty much means that obama has won then, does it reeeaaalllyyy...make any difference??? they are both under the influence of the same nutters after all....

[Orion11]

OK, bit drunk, 04:41 uk time, pretty much means that obama has won then, does it reeeaaalllyyy...make any difference??? they are both under the influence of the same nutters after all....


yeah, this has been established.

[Hypnotize]

obama is the next prez.

[Rocky_Shorz]

everyone is so happy about Obama, they didn't notice a few disappointments.

California just approved changing our constitution to ban gay marriages, and voted no on both alternate energy Bills...

and now for the really bad one...

no more drinking on San Diego beaches...:sad:

[gordon]

make any difference??? they are both under the influence of the same nutters after all....

'The same nutters after all...'? You do mean the American voters...

[Bonnie]

[QUOTE=deb003;70717] I do feel that this is a day of joy for many who in the past couldn't even sit in the same bus or drink water from the same tap and this is a day to celebrate that racism is dying everyday.It's not dead yet, but we are definitely evolving as humans.
Slowly but surely.


Exactly, what I was thinking.

[Allie]

Gordon....when people vote they vote in good faith. When and if it goes wrong, they are also let down.

It is unfair to blame an entire nation for the actions of a few.

And none of us seem to escape this type of sweeping generalisation.

I am not American, but I feel that in electing Barack, they have demonstrated something valuable to the world. Don't knock them.

Let's have some hope now :original:

[gordon]

Gordon....when people vote they vote in good faith. When and if it goes wrong, they are also let down.

It is unfair to blame an entire nation for the actions of a few.

And none of us seem to escape this type of sweeping generalisation.

I am not American, but I feel that in electing Barack, they have demonstrated something valuable to the world. Don't knock them.

Let's have some hope now

I am trying not to comment about that.

[Rocky_Shorz]

so what does it mean for all of the couples that are already married in California, now that the constitution is being changed to say their marriage "can't" exist?

are we the first state to grant these rights and then take them away?

The voters said no...
The Judges said yes...
Now the constitution is being changed to take away rights...

anyone see this as alarming?

Are all the other states going to do it to?

Well heck, we might as well re write the Constitution of the US while we're at it...

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[gordon]

With that picture of Obama, it is like he is turning into Satan. LOL. How about that evil laugh? Obama.

[clarkkent]

With that picture of Obama, it is like he is turning into Satan. LOL. How about that evil laugh? Obama.

just be happy its not bush eh folks? jeez.

[THE eXchanger]

what is the shortest number of days
a president has been in office ???

[371]

so what does it mean for all of the couples that are already married in California, now that the constitution is being changed to say their marriage "can't" exist?

are we the first state to grant these rights and then take them away?

The voters said no...
The Judges said yes...
Now the constitution is being changed to take away rights...

anyone see this as alarming?

No, I don't see this as alarming.... it sucks for gay people but it was voted on. That's democracy, though surprising- after all it is CALIFORNIA!! I live in arguably one the most uptight states in the country, we allow gay marriage and no one really seems to mind...

Everyone who is already married will retain that marriage as it was performed while gay marriage was 'legal'. At least that's how I understand it.

[Dadrious]

Heil Obama!

Now fiddle and play as Rome burns...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Everyone who is already married will retain that marriage as it was performed while gay marriage was 'legal'. At least that's how I understand it.

ahhh, but you haven't seen the changes...

They should have just been happy with Civil Unions, now they've crossed the line and there is no turning back.

Now it is in the constitution that they don't exist.

any guesses how quickly all the other states will follow California's lead?

[Rocky_Shorz]

what is the shortest number of days
a president has been in office ???

William Henry Harrison (1773-1841) was the first US president to die in office. At 32 days, he also had the shortest term in office.

[deb003]

Rocky,
Also they brought 2 more Military Bridgades to the country and I think the total number is now 4,700.
I love how they sneak everything on us during Big events...don't you???!

[Rocky_Shorz]

you are talking to someone in a Military town with 500,000 soldiers...

I'm afraid 4700 doesn't impress me very much... :winksmiley02:

it's nothing to worry about...

I'm glad they are coming home.

[Orion11]

Gordon ,

*waves goodbye*

[gordon]

you are talking to someone in a Military town with 500,000 soldiers...

I'm afraid 4700 doesn't impress me very much...

it's nothing to worry about...

I'm glad they are coming home.

G'day to you, Rocky. I enjoy listening to the BBC through NewsRadio. And I was wondering, how are the Australian Special Forces are doing in south of Afghanitan? I also hear on the radio that most-all counties are having problems in Afghanitan.

[Rocky_Shorz]

G'day to you, Rocky. I enjoy listening to the BBC through NewsRadio. And I was wondering, how are the Australian Special Forces are doing in south of Afghanitan? I also hear on the radio that most-all counties are having problems in Afghanitan.

Well one reason that they are scrambling to bring the Taliban to the table, is to bring a quick peace to the region.

I think just like Iraq once the parties start talking, the violence will end...

[gordon]

Wtf? Are you saying that EVERY member on Avalon has to on one side of the fence all the time with every thread-post? Maybe you need to take a look in the mirror before flaming c.r.a.p. And HAVE A NICE DAY! Orion11.

[Frank Samuel]

Exchanger place your bets, I see 8 yrs. of his Presidency, two terms. Any takers. Common you cynics place your bets. Now I do agree that this guy's life is in real danger from within the goverment, parallels are made between Lincoln and Obama, however remember he has 3 angels by his side. His Father, Mother and Grandmother and I bet that Lincoln is right beside his side.
Now I know how you all think so I just would say wait and see.
By the way exchanger I love those eyes but maybe you need glasses.:naughty::wub2: Goodnight to all, a big hug,stay safe and be happy!!!:groupwave::lmao:

[Rocky_Shorz]

and whoever is crying about not being able to get drunk on the beach anymore..



I guess you have never shared a bottle of wine with someone special at sunset...

Maybe some day when you grow up, you'll understand.

[Rocky_Shorz]

And HAVE A NICE DAY! Orion11.

don't worry about it Gordon, I've seen you come a long way since you first popped in talking about your "secret" :winksmiley02:

these are heated threads during election time and Orion needed to blow some steam...

we just happened to be close enough to get burned.

[MAP]

some people think obama being president will end the war bring our soldiers home

I dont thinks so..

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I think there will be more war..........

[Scooby]

Is it just me or does Michells Dress look like a leftover blackwidows outfit from holloween. :mfr_omg:

[gordon]

I guess you have never shared a bottle of wine with someone special at sunset...

Maybe some day when you grow up, you'll understand.

He would have to ask his mummy for some money so he can afford to goto the 99 cent shop for the cheap wine.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Well, he hasn't sat down to learn the County's secrets yet...

If the budget isn't there, and he needs to choose between feeding citizens or war games...

The troops will be coming home.

[Rocky_Shorz]

He would have to ask his mummy for some money so he can afford to goto the 99 cent shop for the cheap wine.

naaa don't egg Orion on...

Orion needs time to quietly cool back down.

[yettyn]

Congratulations America, you have finaly elected a president again, was it 40 years or so since the last time? Now I just wish you have enough sanity left to keep him this time.

Actually, congratulation planet earth, maybe there is hope after all that the 2012 showdown will be a good one!

[Streetsdreamer13]

Congratulations America, you have finaly elected a president again, was it 40 years or so since the last time? Now I just wish you have enough sanity left to keep him this time.

Actually, congratulation planet earth, maybe there is hope after all that the 2012 showdown will be a good one!

Agreed Americans came out in record numbers from all type of races and creeds. Finally America has made the right choice! Lets all hope and strive for a positive future for all of us!!!:thumb_yello::original:

[Streetsdreamer13]

[QUOTE=deb003;70717] I do feel that this is a day of joy for many who in the past couldn't even sit in the same bus or drink water from the same tap and this is a day to celebrate that racism is dying everyday.It's not dead yet, but we are definitely evolving as humans.
Slowly but surely.


Exactly, what I was thinking.

Agreed my friend well said:thumb_yello:

[Rebel4Life]

Congratulations America, you have finaly elected a president again, was it 40 years or so since the last time? Now I just wish you have enough sanity left to keep him this time.

Actually, congratulation planet earth, maybe there is hope after all that the 2012 showdown will be a good one!

good joke tell me another one :mfr_lol: no but seriously we're all screwd here is Obama's family tree: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/29/earlyshow/main3424359.shtml :smoke:

[gordon]

Obama has awaken from the dream of America. Now let every new moment in America's future bring a new day.

[Orion11]

lol

expected answers.

i will, you have nice one to. lol

[vesta]

Bless you Frank,

I don't really understand how ppl can treat others differently because of their colouring. I am so sorry to hear your family has felt this kind of discrimination some folk just don't get it, do they???

In my journeys I have met folk of many different tones but irrespective they all the capability to harbor both good and bad intent and actions!

I pray that all of us no matter what our skin tone come together and work towards building a future that is kind to all of us! :wub2: :wub2: :wub2:

Love, light and blessings to all of my forum family,

Vesta.

[Rocky_Shorz]

lol

i will, you have nice one to. lol

welcome back...

It's tough to walk away from a forum filled with a spectrum of characters like this one.

be careful on the flaming posts, the Mods can click a button and silence you until you pay... :shocked:

[THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR]

A New World Dawns...A New Era Beckons...Americas Historic Verdict...

'Yanks Very Much'...Let's just say for now yipee yahoohaa GO-BAMA..

At last for the first time since Kennedy, America actually did 'ELECT' a new President...

Whatever you think, there IS now the CHANCE for 'change'...and we should all embrace it and think positive thought's coz maybe...juat MAYBE it's a New Beggining for the world within the current paradigm!

PEACE OUT :D...and I Smile

[gordon]

be careful on the flaming posts, the Mods can click a button and silence you until you pay...

Maybe that is what the Mods were hinting at. If a member gets silenced, they would have to 'pay' for a re:connection fee.

[yettyn]

Congratulations America, you have finaly elected a president again, was it 40 years or so since the last time? Now I just wish you have enough sanity left to keep him this time.

Actually, congratulation planet earth, maybe there is hope after all that the 2012 showdown will be a good one!
good joke tell me another one :mfr_lol: no but seriously we're all screwd here is Obama's family tree: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/29/earlyshow/main3424359.shtml :smoke:

There might be something to that, but just because one or more eggs in thebag are rutten doesn't automatically mean all are so. Also, every family tree has a black cheap, but in this case I think it must be a white one :lightsabre:

Actually, myself is distantly realated to J. S. Bach, honestly, but I can tell you for sure that I never been able to learn playing the piano. And my connection is actually on my fathers side, while Obamas has to be on the mothers which ought to have a weaker genetical influence.

Of course I can be wrong, but my intuition and guts feeling tells me he is for real. Also when I look at his horoscope I get the same answer.

No my take is, and this is of course pure speculation, that he's backed not by Illuminati or any other of the low level earth families but by our friends out there. You didn't possibly notice what his first words was in his speach (after greating the crowd)? "If there still is anyone out there..." Man he's for real you will see.

May the force be with you Gobama!

[Rebel4Life]

There might be something to that, but just because one or more eggs in thebag are rutten doesn't automatically mean all are so. Also, every family tree has a black cheap, but in this case I think it must be a white one :lightsabre:

Actually, myself is distantly realated to J. S. Bach, honestly, but I can tell you for sure that I never been able to learn playing the piano. And my connection is actually on my fathers side, while Obamas has to be on the mothers which ought to have a weaker genetical influence.

Of course I can be wrong, but my intuition and guts feeling tells me he is for real. Also when I look at his horoscope I get the same answer.

No my take is, and this is of course pure speculation, that he's backed not by Illuminati or any other of the low level earth families but by our friends out there. You didn't possibly notice what his first words was in his speach (after greating the crowd)? "If there still is anyone out there..." Man he's for real you will see.

May the force be with you Gobama!

Another sad mistake. You think the elections were made for US TO CHOOSE? how funny is that. Why would you think that the powers that be would let the commoners choose its ruler? Think about it. If you can't comprehend that thought then let us look at some evidence.

Zbigniew Brzezinski Obamas foreign relations Advisor Co-founded the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller. Here is a vid of him telling Muslims to go die for their god.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJTv2nFjMBk

He wrote the book the Grand chessboard : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-XIeb879SY More info on his book http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls1BXOCxmWs. This is the game we call politics first one to lie the most wins!:smoke:

[Antonia]

Dear God does it matter who the man is distantly related to?

Antrapolagists have proved through DNA that we are all from the same ancesters..Enki?..Enlil? who ever... recently they proved that all blue eyed people come from the same ancester? Not mine or Obama's (I am brown eyed)..... so heck must be the devils seed!!! the seed of Cain ..blaa blaa.

All that matters today is that the world woke up this morning and threw away its prozac... there is such euphoria and hope that the whole planet must have jumped a few meters up the vibratioinal scale towards ascention or the positive 2012 time line??

If Barack is a Luciferian or an Illumanati plant or a mind controle or cloned walk-in candidte in waiting... (which I doubt but could be wrong) then what's new there? But what is new is the positive energy his election is generating around the planet... even if only temporery it is hugely relivent and positive in our spiritual evolution. ... I am not American but for the firs time I look to America and think Go America... You are waking up big time! :mfr_lol: Antonia

[norman]

:sad:

HMMM! So the rulers have given the American flock a 'popular' president?

:roll1:

[Antonia]

may be... But surley the people have given them selves this leader.... I take it the voting system wasn't rigged??? Surely we have to stop this helpless sheep with no minds of our own victum mentality? We have free will.. we can stand up to manipulation and mind controle by simply thinking and chosing for our selves... Listen to our hearts... We are our own rulers and we have a voice which we are waking up to and finally using our heads and our voices?

We will reamaine a pasive flock as long as believe thats what we are? We hand away our own power as long as we continue to hand it away.

I think that the people have sent a clear message with a clear voice... Lets see what happens next??

LIve in hope... die in vain! Antonia :lightsabre:

[karmakah]

Well, I guess George Green was right...

[Bonnie]

But what is new is the positive energy his election is generating around the planet... even if only temporery it is hugely relivent and positive in our spiritual evolution. ... :mfr_lol: Antonia


I agree, Antonia. Hell, Oprah Winfrey even said on t.v. there has been a shift in consciousness. Let us take this momentum of positive energy and move forward.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Now That Obama Has Won . . . There is No Excuse

Now that a Democrat has been elected president, the Democrats in Congress have no excuse. They can no longer pretend that they have to "hold back" to win the election.

They have no excuse to delay war crimes charges against Bush, Cheney and company for Iraq.

They have no excuse to delay war crimes charges for torture.

They have no excuse to delay criminal charges for spying on Americans.

They have no excuse to delay criminal charges for 9/11.

Now is not the time for Democratic machine politics. Now is the time to implement true American values - cherished across the political aisle - of liberty and justice.

There can be no liberty in America unless the tyrants who have tried to imprison us and enslave us are prosecuted.

There can be no justice in America unless the high and mighty are held accountable for their actions.

Obama is a former Constitutional law professor. He knows the value of the Constitution and the rule of law. He promised during his campaign to curb the unconstitutional practices of the executive branch.


But that is not enough. Because if the tyrants in both parties who have trampled on the vision of the founding fathers are not held accountable, then future tyrants will learn that they can get away with it, also.

Now that Obama has won, there is no excuse. Those who have trampled on our country and our people must be held to account for the whole world and future generations to see.

http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008...here-is-no.html

[Rocky_Shorz]

and if those involved lead back to UK...

How deep should they go?

[Orion Morris]

Democran or Republicrat.... different name same game... One is not better or worse than the others...

[ghglenn]

So who won?...

Here is a simple explanation of how it all works.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTahZE4q90U

[deb003]

Quote:"you are talking to someone in a Military town with 500,000 soldiers..."



:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

Yes, you're right 4700 isn't that much...:mfr_lol:

[Deoxyan]

nothing is gonna change for the better. Democracy doesn´t even exists. This is all a charade, a fog curtain to feed and keep calm the uninformed average individual.

[Orion11]

"While the State exists, there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State."

Lenin, "State and Revolution", 1919

[Rebel4Life]

I agree, Antonia. Hell, Oprah Winfrey even said on t.v. there has been a shift in consciousness. Let us take this momentum of positive energy and move forward.

*ON T.V.*? are you kidding me? why do you think they call it Programs on television TO PROGRAM YOUR MIND. asleep much? The New Age Is A fraud to get us to look away from the physical world. Once we stop fighting here then it's all over we will become their slaves and I for one won't do that and fall for the NEW AGE trap. :smoke:

[Antonia]

*ON T.V.*? are you kidding me? why do you think they call it Programs on television TO PROGRAM YOUR MIND. asleep much? The New Age Is A fraud to get us to look away from the physical world. Once we stop fighting here then it's all over we will become their slaves and I for one won't do that and fall for the NEW AGE trap. :smoke:


Of course there is programming and frequency interference going on but it does not work on us like a switch were the minute we turn on a TV we turn in to zombies with hands out streched muttering "I obay!" You need a lot off it and you need to have no other vibrations or frequencies.. evrey thought of your own produces a different frequency... To fight the manipulation of our 3d world we have to work with in our 3d world that we inhabit and are mainly conscious in... To vote and partake in politics and go up against negiitive energies and entities and frequencies and agenda's that are not benifical to us or serve our evolution we have to fight in our own 3d world. We have to take controle of our our 3 d world. We can't do this by sitting on our bums and saying "whats the point?"... We're all mindcontrolled and every body is one of them!!".. This is obsesive complacency coupled with paranoia that wont get any one any where.... We have to, in their own words, "Fight them on the beaches.!"......and in the fields and in the air and on the land and in thier military bases by infiltraton and on there political arena's by going up against them in elections and by voting for the candedit who will beat theirs. Some times to beat and controle a system you have to take it from with in ...from infaltration. They do it so whay cant we?
With Obama's victory the world is a much happier place today and that is what matters. The spirits have been raised, literaly!! Love to you all...
Antonia

[Bonnie]

*ON T.V.*? are you kidding me? why do you think they call it Programs on television TO PROGRAM YOUR MIND. asleep much? The New Age Is A fraud to get us to look away from the physical world. Once we stop fighting here then it's all over we will become their slaves and I for one won't do that and fall for the NEW AGE trap. :smoke:

Hi Rebel :original:

You are right there is television programming going on. Like others, I have been and am aware of this fact. Personally, I hardly ever watch television. I did tune in yesterday to CNN, however, to see the election results as well as Obama's Grant Park celebration. After the celebration, a CNN reporter happen to ask Oprah Winfrey, who attended, what her thoughts were on what was happening. Oprah said several things and among them was that she felt there was a shift in consciousness that took place. Now, I don't think I have been programmed because I watched this on T.V. and heard Oprah say her opinion briefly. Antonia expresses a good point about programming in her post that replies to your comment. Antonia writes, "it (programming) does not work on us like a switch where the minute we turn on a T.V. we turn into zombies w/ hands out stretched muttering 'I obey!'". :eyes: I also do not think there has been a shift in consciousness just because Oprah Winfrey says so. One can just observe for themselves on what many, many people (not all) are doing :woot_jump: and saying around the world because Obama won the election. From this observation as well as my own feelings, I think there has been a shift in consciousness from, for example, fear to hope that has taken place within many, many people. One does not have to believe in or follow the new age movement to see this kind of shift that has taken place. So to answer your question, I am awake (in regards to what we are talking about). I am looking at the physical world and expressing what I see.

Peace to you.

[Baron Cross]

There is shift alright! Here in Texas everybody is buying rifles, handguns. Everybody is cracking jokes about hiding their guns in the ground or get ready for the gun police to start knocking on your front door for your guns :shocked:

[Bonnie]

There is shift alright! Here in Texas everybody is buying rifles, handguns. Everybody is cracking jokes about hiding their guns in the ground or get ready for the gun police to start knocking on your front door for your guns :shocked:

Well, I guess one should not be surprised since Texas is predominantly a red state with many republicans (not all) who do not feel this hope for the future.

[Reunite]

How did Shellie get banned? Gordan I can understand BUT Shellie?? I saw alot views eye to eye with her. Quite suprised :thumbdown:

[Magamud]

A democracy which makes or even effectively prepares for modern, scientific war must necessarily cease to be democratic. No country can be really well prepared for modern war unless it is governed by a tyrant, at the head of a highly trained and perfectly obedient bureaucracy.
Aldous Huxley

[PerthDanny]

Democran or Republicrat.... different name same game... One is not better or worse than the others...

I agree the people who run this world controll both sides of the political game is a show for the masses so they think there still in controll , Only when "we" as a whole relise whats happening as stand up to oppose them will we controll the game.:wall:

[Orion11]

Well, I guess one should not be surprised since Texas is predominantly a red state with many republicans (not all) who do not feel this hope for the future.

exactly.
sadly, that is the majority of Texas.

hard to fathom, really.