surprising message from spirit about Obama "victory"

[Theresa]

I just wanted to share this because it's not what I expected to hear. I am a professional intuitive and spiritual channeler (forgiveandawaken.com). We'll just have to see what happens!


"Asking Holy Spirit about Obama victory-what does it mean? Is he working for the light, etc?

Blessings to you, dear ones. We are most eager to offer sharing in regard to the current state of affairs on planet Earth relative to this “Obama Victory.”

Dear ones, what you may or may not be aware of is that there has been a war as old as time itself between the energies of Love and those of fear. Until humanity is ready to embrace the energies of love COMPLETELY, there will always be energies of fear expressing in the consciousness of human beings. That being said, until now, there has been a PREPONDERENCE of fear energies being “programmed” into humanity. That is, until now.

We know that it seems very difficult to believe that those who are members of the same organizations as those who have desires to maintain humanity’s enslavement in fear consciousness could be aligned with love, but here is what we are going to show you.

In 1963 humanity expressed a collective vision of a world without war, without greed, hunger or fear. It was a collective expression of LOVE from the very heart of the collective consciousness. So powerful was this expression of love that forces of fear worked extremely hard to counter it’s vibration of expression. It succeeded only in so far as it caused the collective to GO WITHIN to FURTHER process its “love expression” and to refine it. This resulted in a secondary wave of pursuits which seemed designed to create a PERMENANT state of enslavement for humanity, however, it reality, what has occurred is that humanity was MATURING in its “love expression” to evolve to the point not ONLY of COLLECTIVE murmurs of peace and abundance, but INDIVIDUAL CHOICE to express love and abundance, thus INCARNATING this higher consciousness for nothing less than the complete ascension of humanity itself.

Now, coming full circle to events as of late-here is what we wish to share with you. How is it, do you think, that such a message of truth and hope could be expressed into consciousness through your LEADERSHIP unless YOU WERE MANIFESTING IT? It could not, dear ones.

There are those of you now who are saying, “yes, but spirit, nothing that you have said indicates that any REAL change is coming. Those “voices of leadership” do not appear to be truly in a position to want REAL change-we fear that its all just very clever rhetoric.”

To those voices of warranted concern we say this: yes, dear ones, what you are saying makes COMPLETE sense, in 3RD DIMENSIONAL terms, however, if you are aware, humanity is shifting into 4TH dimension, and therefore, 3D rules “do not apply”.

“What?? Just like that, the ‘leadership’ is going to ‘clean up it’s act?’ How can this be? I still see chemtrails, and bailouts, and psy ops and wars. Surely, Holy Spirit, you are in some kind of “existential denial.” Indeed, dear ones, it seems as though it is all “business as usual,” however, we say unto this: Before the changing of the guards, there is always a period of “crossover,” where one side yields its power to the new order of emergence. This is ALWAYS the case. We say unto you: watch your newspapers. Watch your headlines. Watch the message that is sent out to humanity, that MIRRORS humanity. Watch the “changing of the guard” for clues as to how your world is ascending. And prepare to be amazed.

Trust the process, dear one, ALL of the processes-your own INNER process especially. Know that all is in divine order and that all is well. OM AH HUM."

[Myplanet2]

Thank you, Theresa. Lovely.

[QueenOfLeon]

yeah according to matthews messages he is a light worker.

I am still on the fence

[Jenny]

I moved this thread to Visions of the Future where all channelings go to.


:original:

on a personal note;
I love this channeling, it speaks about collective sanity and love finding its way into manifestation.

[Ali Quadir]

Jesus said: Judge the tree by the fruit it produces... So far Obama looks good.

It'd be awesome if he was a lightworker. But there's still this prophecy of an antichrist lingering in the back of my mind. If something is to good to be true, it usually is... And the point about the antichrist is that initially he looks like a long hoped for savior that will bring the needed changes....

And... Er... Well.... However the difference is he's already warning people that he will need their help. So even though he guides it will still be the people themselves fixing things. Which is good. Savior = bad :wink2:

I'm not saying he is, or is not. I honestly do not know. Just that I would very much like him to be but I grew suspicious of life on this planet. The way he moves his body the way kids respond to him and every vibe I pick up from him are positive.

[QueenOfLeon]

Jesus said: Judge the tree by the fruit it produces... So far Obama looks good.

It'd be awesome if he was a lightworker. But there's still this prophecy of an antichrist lingering in the back of my mind. If something is to good to be true, it usually is... And the point about the antichrist is that initially he looks like a long hoped for savior that will bring the needed changes....

And... Er... Well.... However the difference is he's already warning people that he will need their help. So even though he guides it will still be the people themselves fixing things. Which is good. Savior = bad :wink2:

I'm not saying he is, or is not. I honestly do not know. Just that I would very much like him to be but I grew suspicious of life on this planet. The way he moves his body the way kids respond to him and every vibe I pick up from him are positive.

Yeah spot on!! Thats what I have been thinking, that the anti christ seems like the saviour so I dont buy all this at all.

Plus the fact that he is black reeks of the PTB trying to make us think we have moved forward.

I dont know much about the states and what the ratial ratios are, but my guess is it is predominantly white and there is far too much racism still , for him to have won the vote ligitimately, therefor its a fix. Maybe.

[mntruthseeker]

I loved every bit of her message. I have heard it from others and thats why I do believe it is all up to us. We can't stop believing and praying

Also, I hate the fact that people refer to his being black. Big deal. its what is beneath the skin that matters. Forget about the color of his skin. If they think that is going to be a barrier for us, they were just proved wrong.


The pope is the anti-christ...........I also heard many say it was blair or prince phillip. I'm saying its the pope. the big deciever of all !!!!!!

[Seeker Mom]

The color of Obama's skin is the least of the things that cause me concern about him. Of course it seems that one can't object to him in any way without it being assumed that one is racist. That isn't the case. I'd be worried about any politician who inspired such extreme passion -- even from the great beyond! Amazing!:shocked:

[Sarahmay]

Thank you, Theresa, that was interesting and resonated with me.

[freekatz]

I loved every bit of her message. I have heard it from others and thats why I do believe it is all up to us. We can't stop believing and praying

Also, I hate the fact that people refer to his being black. Big deal. its what is beneath the skin that matters. Forget about the color of his skin. If they think that is going to be a barrier for us, they were just proved wrong.


The pope is the anti-christ...........I also heard many say it was blair or prince phillip. I'm saying its the pope. the big deciever of all !!!!!!

My moneys on Bush....although it's a toss up between him and Cheney. Can there be 2 anti-christs on the same podium??

[samncheese]

Politics a corruption go hand in hand. Many years ago I had some dealings with my state and some of it's leaders and I was horrified at the level of corruption that went on in plain sight.

Here is the linch pin of Obama, He will have to betray somebody. The very forces that put him were he is will want to bend him to their will. If he is good he will do things that the power holders wont like. Or he will do what they wish.

So on one hand he will either do what is right and live up to the wonderful speech he gave, and serve the people, or he will push the NWO along and serve the money that put him there. Men have died serving the people.

I think everone on Avalon should meditate/pray that he will have the strength and the opportunity to do what is good.

One good thought is more powerfull then ten dark masters. I must comment that I feel a surge in the energy fields of good going on since Obama was elected, I don't know what that means but it does feel good.

Be at peace

[sammytray]

The color of Obama's skin is the least of the things that cause me concern about him. Of course it seems that one can't object to him in any way without it being assumed that one is racist. That isn't the case. I'd be worried about any politician who inspired such extreme passion -- even from the great beyond! Amazing!:shocked:

His skin color does have an effect on the mass consciousness... big time!

Its sparking civil rights uprisings and again PRIDE. He is a trap. In my opinion

[David]

Thank you Theresa.

[Rocky_Shorz]

The darkness of the Fifth Night cycle ( 11/19/07-11/08/08) will be determined by the quality and quantity of light or good works we can infuse the planet Earth with in 2007. In other words, the more people who wake up during 2007 and lift their awareness out of the mass program consciousness of war, scarcity and "status quo" and shift to personal self-awareness, co-creatorship and positive personal power, the easier life becomes for all. This is a year when the collective can cho ose to not buy into the governmental progam of war and oil greed, and create a brighter future of peace and plenty fueled by alternate energy sources.

The last few days of this cycle have shown huge increases of light...

[Sanat]

Great message, Theresa! That is what I am "picking up" also...

It is a very good sign that a person with high integrity like Obama gets elected into Office in this crucial time (4 years to 2012). He is really the tip of the iceberg of "White Hats" or "Lightworkers" working behind the scenes to ouster out the dark cabal. Hillary was the chosen one. They were forced to change plans. Their whole global warming hysteric agenda has silenced also. They are really on the defensive. Trying desperatly to grab money and bribe their way out if things. Banks and financial institutions are being cleaned up big time. Things are not as they look on the surface. The Consciousness Level (Vibration) of Mankind has made a huge leap (http://www.wakeupcall2012.com/calibrations.html) recently, and it continues to rise. This is bound to be reflected in outside reality. Even if it takes a little while for the changes to become more visible and "mainstream", they will be massive and rapid when they come. Like a dam breaking.

The outside "reality" simply reflects Mankinds Collective Level of Consciousness (see this article (http://www.wakeupcall2012.com/messages.html) for deeper understanding). When the Collective Consciousness of Mankind is rising, all the old dysfunctional patterns that cannot match the New and higher Vibrations will crumble away. It happens first on the inside, before it manifests more and more in the outside reality. This is what is happening in the world today. It is therefore very possible that Obama is an expression of this "New", and not of the "old world order" like so many seem to think.

This is confirmed by my own calibration (http://www.wakeupcall2012.com/calibrations.html) of Obama as a person with "star seed/Lightworker" energy signature. Also Matthew (http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm) and Dr. Boylan (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=72799&postcount=1) confirms this. Of course Obama has to "play along" to get elected etc. As long as the dark cabal still have some power left he cannot risk anything. But I resonate with David Wilcock (http://divinecosmos.com/) when he says that the system is crumbling from the inside because of people like Obama and many others that are working behind the scenes. His actions in Office will be very interesting to follow...

[Theresa]

sweet, yes, right on!!

Listen, until this channeling came through yesterday, I was totally in the "this is BS" camp. Totally. I felt that he was totally mind controlled, and the rhetoric was BS and everyone believing it was a mind-controlled drone who didnt' want to take responsibility for themselves.

But here's what happened to me. I TOTALLY trust spirit-I have been channeling this consciousness for several years and it has always proven to be accurate to the highest truth, when I've been able to confirm it. I've learned to trust it. OPening my heart to this message has totally shifted my internal energies today.

There IS a shift happening since this election. The energy shift is REAL! MANY of us are feeling it.

Also, last year, an Arcturian from the Galactic Federation told me that the Orions had joined the Galactic Federation, a prerequisite of which is that they have to "clean up the mess that they made" with our governments and military. Sort of making them "clean up their act."

In addition, I was told that before the Oct. 14th thing that was "supposed" to happen, the "reptilians" were being told to either discontinue interfering with humanities natural spiritual evolution, or they would face quarantine for what would be several million years in our time, so that they could "catch up" with their spiritual evolution before they could rejoin the cosmic family.

I didn't post this, because I wasnt' sure about it, but the ETs that I was channeling (they are always Galactic Federation members) said that if the reptilians agreed to stop interfering, then they wouldn't have to "show up" for the Oct. 14th event. They said the only reason they would've shown up would've been to accelerate our consciousness expanding because the reptilians would not step down. In other words, if we had our consciousness stimulated in such a strong way, it would undermine the NWO order satanic agenda very rapidly, however, that would've only been if they did not agree to stop interfering. So, maybe they did agree to stop interfering....

anyway, we shall see! Just keep on meditating and staying heart centered, and above all~ LOVE OURSELVES!!!

~OM AH HUM~

[Sanat]

That is really interesting to hear, Theresa.

I also never thought all that much about Obama. I felt it was "business as usual" with the whole election thing. But at some point there was a subtle shift. It is not so much about him or the "president role" (even if that is important), it is more what the whole thing represents, and what it tells us about what is going on behind the scenes.

Since we are a bit "out there" already:original:... I sometimes wonder if Obama is a "walk in" of some kind. The dark ones operate with "clones" or "organic robots". Perhaps the Light used a cloned organic robot in the beginning and the "real" Obama either "replaced it" or "walked in" to it at a later point when it was perhaps more "safe". This would explain the subtle shift I (and others) felt about him. Sort of; "let the "clone/robot" do the boring campaigning job, I will incarnate when the time is ripe...":naughty:

Your info on the 14. october event/non-event is very interesting. There is so much going on behind the scenes that would only further confuse people if all the truths came out. The "guardians" are very pragmatic in their approach. All that matters is what works. The whole truth about history and what has been going on will be known soon enough.

I also trust Spirit 100%, for really; what else do we have?

Best wishes to you Theresa! It's nice when people are nice and friendly towards each other.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I had a different confirmation they are no longer interfering, I was told they agreed to the "deal" after the shower of meteors, so I kept my promise, the Comet is no longer headed for the heart of their planet. They can have their astronomers look to the sky to confirm it...

I guess the psychic exorcism on Cheney seriously injured a reptilian, I told you not to worry about glancing over at Daddy Bush anymore...:winksmiley02:

your messages always ring through so clear, I'm curious what OM AH HUM means?

oh and one more little favor, I think we are still connected since the dream, can you help me connect to Chris, I'm trying to send him a healing... I'm not able to see his eyes clear enough in the picture.

[arcora]

xxx

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hey Hillary is that you?

[david pavlak]

As one who has only recently become a visitor to this site, and after reading all the comments in this particular thread, I have to say that I am a little bit suprised about all the references to an "anti-christ".

For, you see, there is no such creture as an "anti-christ" or any creature known as "satan". All these beings are inventions from mens' religions. Man has for centuries confused his many religions with the universal consciousness known as God, thinking that they are one in the same thing.

I apologize in advance for any offense taken by other readers.

[777 The Great Work]

I just wanted to share this because it's not what I expected to hear. I am a professional intuitive and spiritual channeler (forgiveandawaken.com). We'll just have to see what happens!


"Asking Holy Spirit about Obama victory-what does it mean? Is he working for the light, etc?

Blessings to you, dear ones. We are most eager to offer sharing in regard to the current state of affairs on planet Earth relative to this “Obama Victory.”

Dear ones, what you may or may not be aware of is that there has been a war as old as time itself between the energies of Love and those of fear. Until humanity is ready to embrace the energies of love COMPLETELY, there will always be energies of fear expressing in the consciousness of human beings. That being said, until now, there has been a PREPONDERENCE of fear energies being “programmed” into humanity. That is, until now.

We know that it seems very difficult to believe that those who are members of the same organizations as those who have desires to maintain humanity’s enslavement in fear consciousness could be aligned with love, but here is what we are going to show you.

In 1963 humanity expressed a collective vision of a world without war, without greed, hunger or fear. It was a collective expression of LOVE from the very heart of the collective consciousness. So powerful was this expression of love that forces of fear worked extremely hard to counter it’s vibration of expression. It succeeded only in so far as it caused the collective to GO WITHIN to FURTHER process its “love expression” and to refine it. This resulted in a secondary wave of pursuits which seemed designed to create a PERMENANT state of enslavement for humanity, however, it reality, what has occurred is that humanity was MATURING in its “love expression” to evolve to the point not ONLY of COLLECTIVE murmurs of peace and abundance, but INDIVIDUAL CHOICE to express love and abundance, thus INCARNATING this higher consciousness for nothing less than the complete ascension of humanity itself.

Now, coming full circle to events as of late-here is what we wish to share with you. How is it, do you think, that such a message of truth and hope could be expressed into consciousness through your LEADERSHIP unless YOU WERE MANIFESTING IT? It could not, dear ones.

There are those of you now who are saying, “yes, but spirit, nothing that you have said indicates that any REAL change is coming. Those “voices of leadership” do not appear to be truly in a position to want REAL change-we fear that its all just very clever rhetoric.”

To those voices of warranted concern we say this: yes, dear ones, what you are saying makes COMPLETE sense, in 3RD DIMENSIONAL terms, however, if you are aware, humanity is shifting into 4TH dimension, and therefore, 3D rules “do not apply”.

“What?? Just like that, the ‘leadership’ is going to ‘clean up it’s act?’ How can this be? I still see chemtrails, and bailouts, and psy ops and wars. Surely, Holy Spirit, you are in some kind of “existential denial.” Indeed, dear ones, it seems as though it is all “business as usual,” however, we say unto this: Before the changing of the guards, there is always a period of “crossover,” where one side yields its power to the new order of emergence. This is ALWAYS the case. We say unto you: watch your newspapers. Watch your headlines. Watch the message that is sent out to humanity, that MIRRORS humanity. Watch the “changing of the guard” for clues as to how your world is ascending. And prepare to be amazed.

Trust the process, dear one, ALL of the processes-your own INNER process especially. Know that all is in divine order and that all is well. OM AH HUM."

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Out of the ruins
Out from the wreckage
Can't make the same mistake this time
We are the children
The last generation
We are the ones they left behind
And i wonder when we are ever gonna change it
Living under the fear till nothing else remains

We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

Looking for something we can rely on
There's got to be something better out there
Love and compassion, their day is coming
All else are castles built in the air
And i wonder when we are ever gonna change it
Living under the fear till nothing else remains
All the children say

We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

What do we do with our lives
We leave only a mark
Will our story shine like a life
Or end in the dark
Give it all or nothing

[sleepingnomore]

You do have to be careful with channellings. Personally I don't trust anything that is dictated. However, there are those subtle signs and information that is channelled as a puzzle to figure out and meant for the recipient only.

[Liv]

Hello from Europe!

Thank you Theresa, for the uplifting channelling which seem to fit well with another channelling I read - I think it was from Tobias at Crimson Circle or it may have been a channelling from Kuthumi. This one was pre-election and stated that Obama is a reincarnation of Abraham Lincoln and a walk-in from the Galactic Federation. On the reincarnation part I have asked my Twin Mind and excellent mundane astrologer, Jim Cummins in Florida to check their charts for indicators of such.

When that is said, even looking at it strictly from a mundane perspective Obama was the best choice for a better future. His rival being a war glorifying and war mongering war hero. And the idea that there was possibility that a barracuda/ pitbull with lipstick could step up as Chief in Command... Well, we're blessed not to have those on this side of the Atlantic any more. I have not forgotten that Hitler was European.

Obama may not be able to change planet Earth or even the US into paradise in 4 years but I'm convinced the alternative would have been worse and congratulate the American people on their votings this time.

Love & Light

[conjuredUp]

As one who has only recently become a visitor to this site, and after reading all the comments in this particular thread, I have to say that I am a little bit suprised about all the references to an "anti-christ".

For, you see, there is no such creture as an "anti-christ" or any creature known as "satan". All these beings are inventions from mens' religions. Man has for centuries confused his many religions with the universal consciousness known as God, thinking that they are one in the same thing.

I apologize in advance for any offense taken by other readers.

Ahhh... sweet sanity! :-)

[hueyii]

His skin color does have an effect on the mass consciousness... big time!

Its sparking civil rights uprisings and again PRIDE. He is a trap. In my opinion

We each create our own reality. If that is what you wish to see and believe, it will be so.

I choose a different, positive view. Even with Bush/Cheney. I chose to see them as positive in the sense that they would be the catalyst for awakening. My reality is such that Obama is the awakening. In my reality it is good.

We create minute by minute our own reality. I could and have faltered in the past at choosing the negative view. None of us are perfect. None of us are better than the other. We each live in a different reality that intersects in different ways with other peoples reality.

The reasoning mind needs guidance from the source. We each need to learn this and guide the reasoning mind along the path of the source.

Peace

[efields]

As one who has only recently become a visitor to this site, and after reading all the comments in this particular thread, I have to say that I am a little bit suprised about all the references to an "anti-christ".

For, you see, there is no such creture as an "anti-christ" or any creature known as "satan". All these beings are inventions from mens' religions. Man has for centuries confused his many religions with the universal consciousness known as God, thinking that they are one in the same thing.

I apologize in advance for any offense taken by other readers.

Yes Thank You for some common sense here. There is more fear and attack on this forum than needs to be. Of that I am sure. :mfr_omg:

[hueyii]

You do have to be careful with channellings. Personally I don't trust anything that is dictated. However, there are those subtle signs and information that is channelled as a puzzle to figure out and meant for the recipient only.

Good point. Consider:

What if technology exists to plant thoughts in the minds of others as a means of control?

Take that thought and run with it. Not saying its true but its a thought (from the reasoning mind.)

The truth is in the silence between the words. Check out Eckhart Tolle.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2546949894540352546&ei=LZoVSZqdN4SUrQLh6p3ADQ&q=eckhart+tolle&hl=en&dur=3

[sammytray]

We each create our own reality. If that is what you wish to see and believe, it will be so.

I choose a different, positive view. Even with Bush/Cheney. I chose to see them as positive in the sense that they would be the catalyst for awakening. My reality is such that Obama is the awakening. In my reality it is good.

We create minute by minute our own reality. I could and have faltered in the past at choosing the negative view. None of us are perfect. None of us are better than the other. We each live in a different reality that intersects in different ways with other peoples reality.

The reasoning mind needs guidance from the source. We each need to learn this and guide the reasoning mind along the path of the source.

Peace

I can "see" what your saying. I guess the point is the SYSTEM must go down! No leader will be in power when this happens. The PEOPLE/US will be one with a certain cooperation.

I can "see" peoples reactions, including African Americans as being prideful. I am not sure that this energy is the right thing to put into the mass consciousness. Should we not be seeing this government dissolved? This SYSTEM WILL go down and the NEW will be percolated through. The Chaos (does not mean negative) MUST come in order to bring in order or the 'NEW".

I thank you for the opportunity to express my opinions

In peace and love

[sammytray]

Good point. Consider:

What if technology exists to plant thoughts in the minds of others as a means of control?

Take that thought and run with it. Not saying its true but its a thought (from the reasoning mind.)

The truth is in the silence between the words. Check out Eckhart Tolle.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2546949894540352546&ei=LZoVSZqdN4SUrQLh6p3ADQ&q=eckhart+tolle&hl=en&dur=3

No need for "what ifs" There IS technology that exists to plant thoughts into the minds of ANYONE! Especially those that leave themselves unprotected while seeking higher dimensional information for others or themselves.

Peace and love

[sleepingnomore]

Agreed. Channelers may have the best intentions but pose another risk to those seeking truth but not discerning enough. Listen to your own heart voice people. Be careful of what you seek, you may get more than you bargained for.

[hueyii]

The Chaos (does not mean negative) MUST come in order to bring in order or the 'NEW".


Just a thought, If you look closely at chaos you will find order. If you look closely at order you will find chaos.

Consider:

Start with something orderly like a galaxy viewed from afar. Start zoming in and as you get closer orderly becomes less organized, stars, comets, asteroids everywhere. Zoom into one of the stars and things get orderly again. Objects in symmetrical orbits around the star appear and move in organized ways. Pick an object and as you zoom in it turns out not to be perfectly spherical... anyway you get the point, just a thought. I heard this from Alan Watts (recommended) and he raised the point that in order to have one you must have the other. They are not mutually exclusive. This all gets tied into polarities, duality etc.

Peace

[hueyii]

No need for "what ifs" There IS technology that exists to plant thoughts into the minds of ANYONE! Especially those that leave themselves unprotected while seeking higher dimensional information for others or themselves.

Peace and love

I thought of this after the Blossom Goodchild prediction fell apart. (yes I was watching the skies). It occured to me if such technology/ability did exist she could have been duped. I watched her video afterward and she stated that she still gets messages but doesnt know whether to believe them anymore.

[sammytray]

Just a thought, If you look closely at chaos you will find order. If you look closely at order you will find chaos.

Consider:

Start with something orderly like a galaxy viewed from afar. Start zoming in and as you get closer orderly becomes less organized, stars, comets, asteroids everywhere. Zoom into one of the stars and things get orderly again. Objects in symmetrical orbits around the star appear and move in organized ways. Pick an object and as you zoom in it turns out not to be perfectly spherical... anyway you get the point, just a thought. I heard this from Alan Watts (recommended) and he raised the point that in order to have one you must have the other. They are not mutually exclusive. This all gets tied into polarities, duality etc.

Peace

great point hueyii! Polarities/Duality - YES, As above so Below! From darkness (sometimes chaos) comes the spark of light.. (a thought)

Its like when the silica is poured on the metal slab ( frequency table), the sand is chaotic. As you turn up the dial to a perfect frequency all the sand particles move around chaotically until finally finding that perfect pattern which reflects that perfect frequency. Chaos then order

[sammytray]

Agreed. Channelers may have the best intentions but pose another risk to those seeking truth but not discerning enough. Listen to your own heart voice people. Be careful of what you seek, you may get more than you bargained for.

I believe we ALL are channelers... some just have not become aware of it yet. :original:

[Rebel4Life]

Channelers are the disinfo agents for the new age.

Kind of like the talking heads on Fox News.

They just spew out whatever they're told to say and everyone thinks it's true.

I was informed over a year ago that BO is the last human incarnation of the antichrist. Guess we'll find out who's right once history is written.

I second that on Channelers. On a new note did you guys know that your messiah Obama..I mean uh our new President Chief of Staff Emanuel Was Director Of Freddie Mac During Scandal? (http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6201900&page=1) EXPECT MORE OF THESE.:smoke:

P.S. Once a politician always a politician. There is no such thing as negativity only perspective and TRUTH.

[Sanat]

Here is MagentaPixies take on Obama, and what he represents:

The Nine speak, through Magenta Pixie about the election of a new President for the USA, Barack Obama…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQRJCFnvpj8


People waiting for an "anti-christ" to appear will be disappointed. The only "anti-christ" to be worried about is the one that has its nest in the midst of your Being (http://www.wakeupcall2012.com/messages.html). The one that is feeding on your Life Force every day by creating fear/conflict/negativity. Looking to the outside is the primary mistake. Obama is not "a Messiah", and he most certainly is not the "anti-christ". He is simply a man of high integrity doing the job he came here to do. He is the tip of the iceberg as an expression of the New, which grows out of the crumbling "old world order".

[Delphi]

For anyone looking at Obama as either a saviour or the antiChrist please PLEASE stop making such an investment in someone else. Whichever side of the divide you are on, you are giving energy to dualisitc thinking. Is this what you want to do? Or do you want to align to unity consciousness?
Consider again the last paragraph of Teresa's post. Trust the process and your inner processes above all else. Trust that Obama will do his job as perfectly as Bush and Blair have done. That job is to help us WAKE UP to the reality of what we are. The rest is speculation, and it keeps our minds occupied, and it's quite interesting, and we will continue to indulge in it (I know I will) and meanwhile the process will go on inside as I/we let go of more and more of what separates us.
And the thing that bugs me about dualisitc thinking is that it remains the only vocabulary I have, what with all those either/ors at the beginning of this rant.
And yes it is brilliant that we have moved far enough for someone who is both black and white to have been elected as US president. A wonderful representative for unity consciousness!
love to all (and I mean all, including those whose words and deeds I don't like!)

[Sir-Chi]

NOW IS THE MOMENT TO DREAM BIG!! Don't Allow Obama to be swept into the typical Manchurian puppeting .... ITS UP TO WE THE PEOPLE to demand nothing but the truth and a reality full of LOVE!!

NOthing less .....

to a rise in consciousness
with much,
love, light and laughter
SC

[lotusflower]

Thank you for this post. It is very inspirational and goes a long with how I am feeling internally about this entire situation.

[Frank Samuel]

Hueii you are absolutely right when you say that we need to see the positive even in those we consider evil. Our hearts and minds are a bit distorted, the teachings of leaders who have ascended into a higher plane tells us to see the spark of the flame burning inside each human being some of course burn brighter than others, some are just dimmer. Notable people like Mother Theresa who saw the good in others, I remember reading an interview she gave while visiting the US. The reporter ask her what she thought about the US she replied saying that althought America was bless with wealth she felt sorry for the people of the US because they are suffering internally and view them as lonely souls. As a soldier of war I ponder over the question of evil within myself after many years I was able to forgive myself, we as humans beings are capable of committing such astrocities yet that does not mean that because of this we are absolute evil. Everyone can change and mend the error of their ways, giving people the benefit of the doubt will not taint you quite the contrarary it will help you in your internal growth process. The mirror you are looking at of others is a reflection of yourselve.:thumb_yello::wub2::wub2:

[dayzero]

This is a great thread.
You just have to ignore some people [like Hilary up there,]

Love these posts. Something has changed for sure.

>>New Galactic Spin Cycle about to begin.
Every 260-days we undergo a sacred spiral
of time known as the Galactic Spin Cycle.
Each approx 9 month cycle of time is understood as a
spiritual gestation cycle of growth and unfolding.
http://www.13moon.com/emailer_3storm_04.htm

Last few cycles now.......

I got sent this, which is rather good;

The Unknown.
As I write this, it is election day in the United States. Of course by the time you read this, the election will be over and a new era will have begun. What kind of new era will it be? There are those who fear the victory of either candidate. I have heard from family members and friends about how they believe the presidency of either McCain or Obama would spell the end of liberty and start us on the downward spiral toward Armageddon. Who is right? Will one of them bring the world to its knees and the other save us all? And if so, which one?
Of course, as Shaumbra we know it doesn’t really matter who wins this election. We know that the world is changing and nothing can stop it now. We know that humanity – as well as each individual – can choose the hard way or the easy way to wake up. But we also know that even with the Easy Button right under our fingertips waking up is the biggest challenge we’ve ever faced.
Can you imagine what it will be like in the coming weeks as people watch for their worst fears to play out? Will Obama turn the country into a socialist state? Will McCain alienate the rest of the world? Will the one who takes office be the final straw to push an ailing economy into collapse? Will all the other frightening scenarios that we’ve heard about come true?
As these fears torment millions of people, where can they possibly find hope? That’s where you come in, Shaumbra. Perhaps in the wee hours of some dark night when their mind is racing and their heart is heavy, a little bubble of New Energy potential will float through their awareness. Perhaps they will take a breath as a glimmer of hope enters their heart. Perhaps the echo of your own dark night – facing your deepest fears, struggling through your own economic collapse, searching for your own inner freedom – will whisper through their soul and they will feel the courage you dredged up from somewhere deep inside. Perhaps they will feel the New Energy that you invited in to your life.
Dear Shaumbra, this is the time you came for. Not a few years into the future, not when you finally “get it together,” not when everything is finally perfect in your life. Your time is NOW. All those challenges you have faced over the last many years have become the seeds of change for the rest of humanity. It doesn’t matter how you solved them, it doesn’t even matter if you’re still facing some of them. What matters is the divinity you brought to each experience, the trust you chose in yourself, the courage that keeps you going. Because of you, those are the things that others can tap into now when their hope is waning.
If I could tell every Shaumbra just one thing, it is that you make a difference just by being here and living your life. Whether that life of yours is big or small, hard or easy, painful or joyful, successful or dismal, the consciousness with which you live on earth makes a difference – now more than ever. The simple Presence that you bring to your existence radiates out to millions of others who can now choose an easier time and a new world because of you.
In a way it doesn’t really matter who wins this election. The future is unwritten and unknown. But you have already faced the Unknown in your life, looked it in the eyes and said “Yes” anyway. And it is that Yes that humanity needs to feel now.
…when the darkest cloud covers your heart and there’s no reason you can find to go on, you still say “Yes.”
…when the news tells you of another disaster happening somewhere, you hold the participants in your heart with compassion – and gently breathe “Yes” for their changes.
…when yet another friend turns away in rejection, shaking their head at your strange beliefs and walking away into another world, you bless their soul’s journey and remember the time before your own No became Yes.
…when you see fear in a stranger’s eyes and you feel them wondering if things will be okay, you just smile a gentle “Yes” right into their heart.
…when someone cries that the wrong man won, wringing their hands in despair at the world coming to an end, you say “Yes – and a new one is beginning.”
…when your own world appears to be disintegrating before your eyes and the Unknown is lurking just around the corner, simply whisper “Yes, I can fly now.”
…and when you feel the fear of a billion humans closing in around you, take that precious breath for yourself and with every beat of your Shaumbra heart let the universe hear your YES.
Yes to life; Yes to trust; Yes to hope; Yes to compassion; Yes to a whole new world.

[Esther]

I posted this on another forum regarding the anti christ accussation.
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Many presidents have been accused of being the anti christ and many other public and private figures as well. The problem is that most predictors (because I refuse to call them prophets) bring the word around because it catches the public's attention and that fills the coffers. And most can talk the talk. Very few have walked the talk. Prince Charles can now take a break from being labeled the anti christ.

The epistles of John I and II are the only ones who mention the anti christ. The book of Revelation does not. And yet, anti christ proponents bring the two together as if they were proposing the same issue.

Quotes from the Pe****ta, the only Bible that comes directly from Aramaic:

"18 ¶ My children, it is the last time; and as you have heard that a false christ shall come, even now there are many false christs, and from this we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from among us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they left us, that it might be known they did not belong to us.

20 ¶ But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you are enabled to distinguish between men.

21 I have written to you not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and are aware that no lie comes out of the truth.

22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is a false christ, and whoever denies the Father, denies the Son also.

23 Whoever denies the Son, the same does not believe in the Father; but whoever acknowledges the Son, acknowledges the Father also."

From this we know several things mainly that the anti christ would be basically against Christ, but for the purpose of this discussion that it was among the apostles and had come forth from them, not one but several people. Also, that the apostles would be able to recognize them because they had been annointed with the Holy Spirit. And furthermore, that the 'last time' or 'end of days' as have been proposed for the future were already with them.

From the Second Epistle of John chapter one:

"7 ¶ For many deceivers have appeared in the world, who do not acknowledge that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. Such a person is a deceiver and an antichrist."

Anyone proclaiming Jesus was a mythical figure is the anti christ. So we have essentially been living with the anti christ for eons.

The ones who are speculating about the anti christ coming in the future are contradicting the Books that propose the idea. One just cannot twist this around for our own advantage.

The anti christ that the ones who study prophecy comes about from men's insistence to know better than the original writers about what the prophecy claims. So, they mingle these passages together with passages from Daniel and Revelation to describe the one coming who puts so much fear in the hearts of men.

For one, he comes from Magog, mostly claimed to be Russia and he is a homosexual. Some people also hint he's Jewish. The mark on the foreheads self defined Christians who would love to see the Rapture, say it is a microship or a tattoo. Others, say it is the government's intervention to prevent people from developing the third eye.

And the most feared number then comes: 666, which has already been with humans for a long time as part of the barcode system. So we are all guilty.

I think the most pressing problem is that the authorship of the book of Revelation is highly debatable because it is not in the style of John the Apostle. Many scholars now attribute that book to John the priest (a converted Christian) because it is full with Jewish scriptural knowledge something the apostles were not experts in. It also departed from Jesus proposition that He had come to fulfill the Law and in a gentle way wanted His followers to understand that and to stop following it. It was done and over with because it had already served its purpose. He had rather come to love was the answer and that included our enemies. These makes going to war, an anti christ ideal.

To try to fulfill all of these requirements, Obama has been accused of being a terrorist lover, a homosexual and a host of other things. The terrorist lover part, all of the accusers are now backing out of. Read the New York Times online.

His defenders and it includes many of the 'predictors' say he comes to usher an era of peace. And the ones with the talent to see human auras say his is golden.

These man has inherited enormous problems from a government that seriously encroached on basic human rights.

Ad hominem attacks and character assassination simply does not cut it. Evidence does. We as people must indeed be a force to change this nation to a gentler time and not be so indifferent to the future of the human race.

Hopefully, this is the beginning of a that gentler time.

[Esther]

The color of Obama's skin is the least of the things that cause me concern about him. Of course it seems that one can't object to him in any way without it being assumed that one is racist. That isn't the case. I'd be worried about any politician who inspired such extreme passion -- even from the great beyond! Amazing!:shocked:

Kennedy inspired such passion. And people all over the world cried over his death, which whistleblowers say was done to prevent him to bring the USA back to constitutional principles, defying the establishment with that ideal.

Curiously enough, he was extremeley protected when he went to Puerto Rico because of fears from the extreme socialist faction. Yet, he died in his own soil by contradicting those who told him not to use a convertible limousine.

That time was the death of innocence.

And now people have renewed hope. Let's use our hearts to bring it on.

[martina]

I never have something to do with politics, but people want me to be informed, so I just pas this on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-KJCMWcoms&feature=related

[Frank Samuel]

There's a serious flaw in the view about the Brezinsky hidden agenda . The goal according to these sources is to attack China and Russia. Who do you think are bailing out USA out of this economic crisis Brezinsky, I don't think so.
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/3351/53/
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/schoon110408.html
Now is hard to believe that the US is so stupid as to go to war with the very people who are giving us a helping hand, this logic sounds a bit far fetch.
Maybe I'm just too naive.

[Rocky_Shorz]

There IS a shift happening since this election. The energy shift is REAL! MANY of us are feeling it.

In addition, I was told that before the Oct. 14th thing that was "supposed" to happen, the "reptilians" were being told to either discontinue interfering with humanities natural spiritual evolution, or they would face quarantine for what would be several million years in our time, so that they could "catch up" with their spiritual evolution before they could rejoin the cosmic family.



Hey, I think the Reptilians finally got the message...

http://images-cdn01.associatedcontent.com/image/A1746/174695/470_174695.jpg

[Tara]

Brezinski! Brezinski! Brezinski. ENOUGH ALREADY. We've had Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice. The list goes on. From what I understand, Brezinski has seen the light in some fashion. He now believes that we should handle world issues in a peaceful manner ( I know his history, but we have nothing, absolutely nothing to lose). We've already experienced the worst. We are at rock bottom. Let's see what happens here. Barack is not what I have heard he is from posts on this website and from other sources. Nothing has been proven to date. ENOUGH!!! The overall human conciousness says give him a chance. So be still and contemplate and let's see what shakes out. PEACE OUT.

[xlr8]

I believe we ALL are channelers... some just have not become aware of it yet. :original:

Agreed, anyone can write and say anything for any reasons, benevolent or not. The only true way to know is by the fruits of anothers actions.

Positive discernment of any material is the only way to KNOW, not just believe. Believing is NOT KNOWING. Try it, say to yourself I believe I will be a good person, or I KNOW I am a good person, does it FEEL any different? Sure does to me.

If we ask our inner selves, inner god, higher self, whatever you want to call it, to reveal the truth of what is being communicated, we will have the answer, if it is not readily available by discernment.

A lot of reading between the lines has to happen with the internet stuff, one site will contradict another, one 'channeler the other, and how does one make sense of it all?

Go within and become your own channel, channel your own truth! Know your own truth and become strong within, then nothing can sway you on your journey, you will read or hear with discernment and be able to use the material one way or another or simply discard it.

WOW! Did I just channel that? There is a good message for me!

Love and light all :wub2:

[Rocky_Shorz]

Theresa,

I just ran across something that sounds like it could have been written by a scorekeepers of the Nordics...

THE ARYANS, OR NOBLES

The Aryan past is spectacular: we were the Sumerians who originated pictographs and writing; we were the ancient Atlanteans; we built Arkaim in Russia, the ancient Aryan capital of the world with an astronomy site in line with Stonehenge; we built the hanging gardens of Babylon; we were the original inhabitants of ancient Egypt, as the earliest frescoes and statues depict blue-eyed people: Menes, the son of the Assyrian king, Sargon the Great, was Egypt's first king. We were the Egyptian Melchizedek priesthood with Horus the Hawk, our Holy Spirit, leading and guiding us. We built the Great Pyramid of Giza with Freedom Labor inspired by God in mathematics which tells a story to whoever will open their eyes to it--Isaiah 19:19-25--this edifice intended as an altar unto the Lord, with a little passageway on its inside time line, going from the "Descending Chamber" to the "Ascending Chamber" at AD 33. The three pyramids were built in alignment with the stars on Orion's belt, Orion being the constellation of Christ, or the Spirit of truth; the Egyptian Sphinx is ours; so is the South American Mayan temple and stone masonry found around the world.

We were the blue-eyed Medes-Persians, the originals of present-day Iran, the name derived from "Aryan," meaning "Noble"; we were the Indo-Ayran Persians who established a high culture in India; we were the Greek "Danaoi," and the Spartans, who were descendants of Abraham; we were the Greeks who founded ancient Byzantium; we were the Greek Alexander the Great, who conquered more territory in his short life-span than any other conqueror, becoming the richest man in personal wealth to this day to have ever lived, even more than the Jewish Rothschild's and Rockefeller's. Our Alexander was the conqueror who was initiated into the ancient rites of Osirus in Egypt, who contributed Greek culture borrowed from Egypt, who married Princess Roxana of Samarcand, and who commissioned a library to be built at Alexandria; we were the Ptolemies who built that library; we were the philosophers Plato and Aristotle; we were the Greek Cleopatra, who gave her life for her people; we were the Russian Etruscans, and the later Romans who contributed Roman culture to the world; we were the builders of the 1,000 year-old Orthodox Christian Byzantine Empire.

We were in Asia first and established a great civilization there--in China we developed gun powder. Our later European brethren developed a trade route with China as our ancestors have been found buried there--Hungarians, Serbs, Goths, Cossacks from the Don River, Turks, Swedes, Macedonians, Czechs, Scots and Bulgarians; we were the Phoenicians who ruled the seas; we were the Phoenician-Hebrews that settled in Britain, the Phoenician Brithish--we ruled the seas again, and supplied the materials to build Solomon's Temple; we were "Isaac's Sons," hence the term "Saxons"; we were those known to the Romans in Britain as Germans, from the Latin germanus, meaning "genuine"; we were the British who later absorbed the Israelite tribe of Ephraim; we were the Israelites of old, who after Assyrian captivity, as recorded in II Esdras 13, landed in "Arsareth," present-day Germany. We were known as the Scythians, or Latin "germanus" for genuine, as in the germ, or core, of wheat; we are the blonde, blue-eyed, and tall Nordics of the Israelite tribe of Naphtali that are buried in thousands of tombs in present-day Russia.

We were from the Israelite tribe of Dan who named the Danube River and Denmark and settled in Ireland and named Dunkirk, and other Irish places after Dan; we were the prophet Jeremiah from the Tribe of Levi who went to Ireland and who is buried there--Ireland is called the "Emerald Island" named after Levi's emerald gemstone; we were "Scota," King Zedekiah's daughter, who traveled with Jeremiah--"Scotland" is named after her; we were the Vikings of the tribe of Benjamin that conquered and invaded, and left our culture everywhere we went. We are the ones that carried Benjamin's wolf symbol with us. We are the ones who fulfilled Genesis 42:27: "Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil"; we were Zebulon, who handled "the pen of the writer"--Judges 5:14--who became Holland and developed the printing press.

We are the ones who carried all of the heraldic symbols of Israel to Europe which exist still to this day as a witness and clue of our origins, with the Royal families of Europe from Israel; we were the early Church Fathers, including St. Augustine, who was inspired to write the "City of God"; we were those in Europe that Jesus, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, was speaking of when he told his disciples: "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel"--Matthew 10:6; we were those who became Christians when Paul visited us in Britain, and evangelized us, including Britain's Royal family; we were the Druids who built Stonehenge. Pontius Pilate was educated at a Druidic university where the pursuit and debate of truth was preeminent, hence his question to Jesus, "What is Truth?"

We were the Teutonic Knights who brought the book of Enoch and more culture to Europe, hence the Age of European Enlightment; we were the German Knights Templar who built church edifices across Europe, of which it is claimed that if you view them from space, they lie across Europe in the form of a five pointed star, five representing grace, a reminder of the original five pointed blue stars found in the earliest synagogues; we were the German Catholic Luther who stood up against the Pope with corruption charges, who dared to defy ecclestiastical tyranny, who announced "justification by faith," and who gave the German people a Bible so they could read the truth; we were the other Protestant reformers, protestors of tyranny.

We were Scotsman William Wallace of "Braveheart" who cried "freedom" rather than "mercy" and this is how our people live; we were French woman Joan d'Ark of which it is said all of heaven opened up to her so the angels could direct the cause of freedom for her people; we were the Pilgrims to America; we were the Dutch Boers who settled South Africa; we were the various sea and land explorers, and those who later landed on the moon; we were the classical composers Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Wagner, and Handel, the latter who shut himself up to compose the "Messiah" and who attested to all of heaven opening up to him while finishing this inspired work; we were Catherine the Great who brought elegance and beauty to Russia.

We were the originators of the "rights of man" and the Magna Carta; we were John Locke, and Thomas Paine, both adherents of natural law principles; we were the Founding Fathers of America, the tribe of Manasseh: General Washington, who spoke fluent German and who God protected while in battle; the intellectual genius, Jefferson, who penned the Declaration of Independence, who was proficient in Greek and Latin, who hated all "tyranny of the mind," and who built Greek Monticello; Madison, the father of the American Constitution; Patrick Henry who declared, "Give me liberty, or give me death"; the patriot rider, Paul Revere; Nathan Hale, who regretted having only one life to give for his country--we were also the women who stood by these men; we were also the brilliant anti-Federalists, who believed in self-government and state sovereignty as written in the Articles of Confederation; we were the South who stood for these principles during the War Between the States with our leaders Robert E. Lee, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Jefferson Davis.

We have been geniuses of innumerable inventions; we were the French who gave America the Statue of Liberty, who one observer claims is actually Alexander the Great bearing the torch of freedom; we were the builders of the Washington Monument, an Egyptian obelisk, which connects America to Egyptian high culture; we were the Wright Brothers; we were Lawrence of Arabia who gave freedom to the Arab people; we were the American Amelia Earhart, the first woman to fly across the Atlantic in 1928, and who later flew solo in 1932.

We were American Christian-patriot Charles Lindberg who took the first solo flight across the Atlantic, and German Christian-patriot Rudolph Hess, imprisoned for life for pursuing peace during a flight to Britain--whose name has been falsely maligned by the the "powers-that-be" because he sought peace rather than war; we were the Germans executed at Nuremberg unjustly after being tortured into confessions and evidence falsified. Just as the narrator in "Braveheart" states, "history is written by those who hang heroes"; we were the elegant Eva Peron who loved the Argentine people; we were the classical writers Jane Austen of "Pride and Prejudice," Margaret Mitchell of "Gone with the Wind," and Taylor Caldwell of "Captains and the Kings."

This present dark world is in upheaval as the world system moves towards collapse. The earth is leaving the 2,000 year-old age of Pisces, the Fish or Church age, and entering into Aquarius, the Water Bearer, an age of Spirit and Truth.

Author unknown...

Your messages talk of them being with us through history as man has evolved, could they really have had a part in all of it?

[Kelphi]

Classic doctrines of demons. They revel in ambiguity and circular reasoning.


And why shouldn't they? You give them legal right to by suppressing and hating the truth of God.

I am begging you folks, for your own protection, stop consulting with demons before it is too late. What do you have to loose to investigate this? Do it while you still have time.

[Rocky_Shorz]

o ye of little faith...

If I closed my ears to the Holy Spirit, where would we be?

I understand how opening yourself up can allow demonic possession, but if you are protected by the one, it is just a peaceful walk on the beach...

The problem with the world is so many like you that are capable of receiving messages, have been taught not to.

[Rocky_Shorz]

The Battle with Abaddon is over...

The Devil's Abyss

Went to the martyr and saw it was there
hopelessly lost and drowning in despair

Hearts of frozen steel spinning dangerous lies
Evil hatred burning dark through their eyes
Quietly follow the path into the depths of hell
Nightmares and horrors too wicked to tell

Seal is broken chains lie empty in the cage
The beast has escaped in a firey rage
Reaching into the trinity drawing Michael's sword
Quietly praying, asking for strength from my Lord

Bells of Heaven, Angels marching forward strong
The power of pure hearts heard through their song,
Evil cringes, hiding from the light
Chains wrap its limbs, dragging into the night

charred memories, tears of hope, gentle wings touch the land
rainbow of life growing, coming together hand in hand.


Copyright ©2008 Rocky Shorz

[Sanat]

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c73dd53ef010535e6d7e6970b-pi

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2008/11/exopolitics-media-note-obama-orbs-and-dimensional-disclosure.html

[Tara]

Love the orbs.

[RubyTuesday]

I don't know "who" Obama the man is- I voted 3rd party. I do know that the hope leading up to the election of so many and then the win changed something in the energy of this country, probably the planet. And it was a good feeling- still is! This election it was HOPE vs FEAR. Hope won.

What will Obama do? I don't know what he plans to do for real or what others plan for him to do. I do know, though, that the energy has shifted and the vibration is HIGH. Is it not true that when lower vibrations are surrounded by higher vibrations that the lower have to rise to match the higher? So what does that mean regarding our govt?

Obama is a manifestation of US. If we don't continue on this path of hope and joy it will only be because we have allowed our collective vibration to lower by falling back into a fear/negativity cycle. Whether our system changes for the better or worse it will be because of us, not one man. Keep shining. :wub2:

[ophiuchus]

judging by the people he surrounds himself with, the support he gets media wise, the ludicrous promises he exposes(he reminds me of a cheerleader for the super bowl, definitely the aipak poster boy ). aipcac who controls the u.s.a. will do anything to accomplish their goals. he seems to be nothing more than an emotional fisherman. and yes he has netted a lot of fish. the direction he appears to be taking us already, going by his,"appointees" looks like the same old "path of destruction". i'm only guessing that because it's not important to him that he be a natural born citizen of the u.s.a. that his appointments to highly sensitive positions, having dual citizenship and more loyalty to to foreign countries is a prerequisite. i don't think he brings anything special just because he is black(a good scapegoat), or buy into that it's a new paradigm when americans can elect a black. i don't want to see americans turned into second class citizens for"world diplomacy". on the contrary i think he"s handing out rose colored glasses to those who can't grab them fast enough who buy into that dream. listen, there are only two kinds of people in the world, either you are right or you are not right. the world is watching to see what he will do with the opportunity of the millennium. to coin a phrase "i'm from missouri,and i'll believe it when i see it".show me cause we ain't seen nothing yet! i do however wish him luck and will do my best to support my president, my country and its' constitution, as a patriot.

[DanDan]

Personally, I'd have to look at who Obama is surrounding himself with, his cabinet picks. Not one of his picks is on the side of light. It is reported that he isn't even a US citizen, that he had gay relationships with his pastor and choir leader { who was found dead} , smoked crack with a gay man while a senator. He has no shining record of accomplishment in the senate. He was first term and didn't finish that.I hope for the best but***** I don't think he is the anti-christ, but I do feel he is a false prophet. He is where he is at because of the powers that be. Does Mind Control ring a bell, folks??? The sheeple have done their job. It really looks like another Clinton era cabinet.

Now, on a positive note, All is as it should be. I don't care what any of the controllers do, THEY CAN NOT SURVIVE THE LIGHT!!!!! Our universe will be fully in the photon belt soon. What we see in the news shows me that the dark ones are failing fast. Their ballout isn't working. Truth of the world powers is being revealed. Fear not my friends. We are moving into GOD's light and love. Things are accelerating daily towards a rebirth of earth and the enlightened ones of us should be able to feel it inside. I don't believe there is one in power now that shall not be changed or eliminated from the realm we are about to enter. It's all birthing pains folks.

Be at peace with yourself, share love with everyone you encounter. Many will not respond but you plant a seed when you share love. It's sad that many will not make it to higher ground but their soul will continue on for GOD would have that none should perish. All are being given the chance to live in the everlasting light. It just gonna take some a couple million more years to wake up. hehheeh

Love and Light
DanDan

[efields]

Thank you, Theresa. Lovely.
It does not matter who he surrounds himself with. What matters is what, HE DOES. It does not matter, who he puts around himself... Keep your friends close, your enemies closer... It will be HIS actions that define him. Not who is in his circle. What his thoughts are ,and the actions he takes, not what advisers say, thats important. He is not even yet really the President and already look, at all who are ready to fry him. Yes it may look like Business as usual, but we must wait and see what he finally does, to make any judgement. I still have a great feeling, about the man, and have great hopes, for his tenure. All I know is that since the election, I feel much less angst about still being in the country, and indeed Have less of a push, from my heart to leave. I feel a great relief about the feelings of the World, compared to when Bush was pulling my strings every day, and I just wanted out, ASAP. I still want out, as it is morally and economically, not my energy to remain here, but Im not feeling as pushed as I was, before Obama won, and for that I am grateful. I have not been this relaxed and calm for that last 2 terms with the NeoCon leadership in play. Although many of the players he is signing up are from those administrations, I feel and pray, they will be newly aware, with this man at the Helm. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt till he proves me wrong. Just perhaps he will not embarrass us all as Bush did. That will be wonderful.

He still must operate in the broken machine and if he fixed it all at once, he would surely be 'permanently' removed. Even if he could fix it, it will take more time than he has available. What he can do is lesson the damages accrued by Bush and the prior administrations, and by doing, lesson the severity, of the needed and just corrections we see coming, with the Harvest. That would be a great victory in itself. Anything more he could do, would just be gravy. The corrections we need must come on a global scale. No one President has the power to do what is surely needed, but he could be a step in the right direction!

[msv]

Best interview with David Wilcock yet. Lot of important info on Obama. He nailed it.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=162143&cmd=apop

[efields]

Best interview with David Wilcock yet. Lot of important info on Obama. He nailed it.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/audioPop.jsp?episodeId=162143&cmd=apop
Yes great Interview and Great information. Nailed it He Did.... One of his best interviews I agree.

So Obama is sort of a Useful Idiot and does not have a clue about any of the info on these Boards of even the Illuminati. Now that sounds perfect. When and IF he discovers it all what will he do.... Probably not what they would like, thats nearly a given. No wonder they are so fearful of his leadership. I have been saying since I first heard him speak "he reminds me of JFK". We shall see if he can remain true to his visions. Hope for us all....

[msv]

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[msv]

The pope is the anti-christ...........I also heard many say it was blair or prince phillip. I'm saying its the pope. the big deciever of all !!!!!!

The info I have is that the "antichrist" is the Catholic church, so that would include the pope as a supporter of the "antichrist" energy that the church has taken on and become more so in the past 50 years. The church certainly hasn't been true to the teachings of the Christ, so therefore anti - Christ. All other pointing of the finger at others is just the usual distraction away from the truth.

[piers2210]

I loved this thread...as a Brit looking over expectantly at you guys, all i can say is: NOTHING can be worse than Bush

love and peace

[DoctorWho]

I loved this thread...as a Brit looking over expectantly at you guys, all i can say is: NOTHING can be worse than Bush

love and peace

What about your Gordon Brown and his speed camera and congestion charge cronies?
Bill "the Doctor"

[piers2210]

Hi there Doctor Who....you're right maybe Gordon Brown is worse hehe

We've got the most surveillance cameras in public places of any nation on earth. hmm

I hope Obama works out.....but....but he is inheriting a mess.

[vibe]

I think that labelling Obama "saviour" or "antichrist" is completely out of proportion. He is neither, just an opportunist, who has been given an offer, he can't refuse. It is very difficult to believe, that he has not been aware all along, that he did not qualify to run for president, because he was not "a natural born citizen" i.e. someone, who has two American parent and is born on American soil. OBVIOUSLY he doesn't qualify!

What really gets me is, how many Americans do not THINK at all, but just let themselves be carried away and a time, when their country needs a good, strong leader more than ever.

I think he will have to paid quite a price for the fraud, he has committed and boy and I ever glad, I am not in his shoes!

Vibe

[micjer]

Jesus said: Judge the tree by the fruit it produces... So far Obama looks good.

It'd be awesome if he was a lightworker. But there's still this prophecy of an antichrist lingering in the back of my mind. If something is to good to be true, it usually is... And the point about the antichrist is that initially he looks like a long hoped for savior that will bring the needed changes....

And... Er... Well.... However the difference is he's already warning people that he will need their help. So even though he guides it will still be the people themselves fixing things. Which is good. Savior = bad :wink2:

I'm not saying he is, or is not. I honestly do not know. Just that I would very much like him to be but I grew suspicious of life on this planet. The way he moves his body the way kids respond to him and every vibe I pick up from him are positive.

Almost 3 months after this was posted, I still agree with it. Time will tell, but still on the fence. The anti-christ will be a great deceiver.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/israel_7.jpg

If he is truly a lightworker, lets hope he steps in to stop the BS in Gaza!!!

[eurosceptic]

Hi there Doctor Who....you're right maybe Gordon Brown is worse hehe

We've got the most surveillance cameras in public places of any nation on earth. hmm

I hope Obama works out.....but....but he is inheriting a mess.


I heard from a sourde that Brown is a Ped...... well you know....I dont mean a pedalist put it that way - and he may also be a clone!!!

not really surprising if either were true, what do you think??

[Delphi]

One of my reactions to B&K's interview with RS was "Well that explains why Gordon Brown is blind in one eye."

Love to all because the PTB are the PTB in order to wake us up!

[bodzoyfa]

As one who has only recently become a visitor to this site, and after reading all the comments in this particular thread, I have to say that I am a little bit suprised about all the references to an "anti-christ".

For, you see, there is no such creture as an "anti-christ" or any creature known as "satan". All these beings are inventions from mens' religions. Man has for centuries confused his many religions with the universal consciousness known as God, thinking that they are one in the same thing.

I apologize in advance for any offense taken by other readers.

You may be right in a spiritual sense. However, these prophecies are so important to the dark humans on earth that I believe they will stop at nothing to make sure that these prophecies are fulfilled.

Project Blue Beam?

[micjer]

You may be right in a spiritual sense. However, these prophecies are so important to the dark humans on earth that I believe they will stop at nothing to make sure that these prophecies are fulfilled.

Project Blue Beam?
Yes I actually agree with both of you. The PTB 's plan is to use the book of revelations as a "screenplay" to reenact the written prophesy. I have read where the true meaning of satan is actually ego.

Time will tell which side Obama is working for. I hope that he is a white hat and working for the right side.

:lightsabre:

[brutus35]

There is NO Antichrist, just as there is no hell, and there is no satan, except in the minds of few who created those entities to instill fear, and exact control over the many, and those who choose to believe in their existence.
Obama,s function as a "Lightworker" is to anchor the Light and expose the truth. In order to fulfil his mission, "which includes the whole of earth" he has to surround himself with certain personages, and take action that at this moment may be deemed unacceptable or curious, to say the least. However, so far everything is unfolding exactly the way it should. The feathers of the remaining Dark Puppets, are, and will continue to be ruffled, but who should care??? Remember, there is nothing to worry about, "The Universe Is Always On Time":trumpet::trumpet: