Government to give every american 1,000,000

[sammytray]

Here is a great idea... mentioned on a talk show by Russell Crow.

Here is how you solve the american debt problem:

Every american citizen (what 300 M or so) should be given 1,000,000. Total government bailout - 300 Million. Wouldn't this kick start the economy? Wouldn't this put the money back to the people instead of the 700 Billion + to the crooks?

Hmmmm :original:

Big difference between 300 Million and 700 Billion +

[371]

No offense, but that's absurd.

One word: INFLATION.

[sammytray]

No offense, but that's absurd.

One word: INFLATION.

Better than Depression?

[371]

Better than Depression?

Same/similar outcome IMO. Too much money= cash becomes worthless.

[QueenOfLeon]

I think they should just right off everyones mortgage. Give them their house.

simple.

[sammytray]

Same/similar outcome IMO. Too much money= cash becomes worthless.

to much money? 300M ? How about 1 - 2 Trillion?

[Orion Morris]

This is stupid... They dont want to solve the debt problem.... That is why it is here...

they planned it.. Just like they planned Obama...

[Ali Quadir]

There are only 300 Americans? :mfr_omg:

300 million divided by 1 million each... :zip:

[sammytray]

There are only 300 Americans? :mfr_omg:

300 million divided by 1 million each... :zip:

:lmfao:

Okay wait a minute.... 300 million people x 1 million dollars = ?

[Orion Morris]

oh my god.... This would never happen... They set it up... They dont want a cure... If you gave every American 1 million each they wouldnt show up to work...

Quit this..... Somebody delete this thread

[sammytray]

oh my god.... This would never happen... They set it up... They dont want a cure... If you gave every American 1 million each they wouldnt show up to work...

Quit this..... Somebody delete this thread

That is the whole point. Not show up for work.

[Orion Morris]

That is the whole point. Not show up for work.

Ok now I understand.... You are six years old....

If we didnt show up to work then how would that help the economy...
Who would we buy stuff from...
What would we eat...
People have to go to work so we can sustain ourselves...

[371]

That is the whole point. Not show up for work.

Yeah, and make ourselves even poorer...

[sammytray]

Ok now I understand.... You are six years old....

If we didnt show up to work then how would that help the economy...
Who would we buy stuff from...
What would we eat...
People have to go to work so we can sustain ourselves...

Hmmm six years old :original:

anyway,

WE DO NOT WANT THIS SYSTEM! Do you? I would like something new that does not include $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - Greed, Corruption, etc...

[Seeker Mom]

This sounds wonderful. I'd love to be given a million dollars for doing absolutely nothing. Then again, people have killed each other for only a few dollars, so if this happened I'd expect the murder rate to skyrocket in this country. Lots and lots of people would not only want their piece of the pie -- they'd want yours, too. :lmfao:

[ralok_j]

Hmmm six years old :original:

anyway,

WE DO NOT WANT THIS SYSTEM! Do you? I would like something new that does not include $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - Greed, Corruption, etc...

The only way to achieve this system is to completely bankrupt the current.

[371]

Here is a great idea... mentioned on a talk show by Russell Crow.

Easy for him to say, he's frigging rich!

[sammytray]

The only way to achieve this system is to completely bankrupt the current.

Hmmmm again, it seems that this is what needs to happen. In order to bring change or a "new" system, the "old" must be purged, dissolved and gone. Isnt that what we want? A new system not based on greed and a false currency?

[sammytray]

Easy for him to say, he's frigging rich!

Yes he is, and probably lost.

[371]

Isnt that what we want? A new system not based on greed and a false currency?

Yeah but that's not what we'll get....

It's be a new system- based on greed and false currency....

[Jnana]

If you give 300 million people 1 million dollars each it will cost 300 TRILLION dollars.

If you cut that back to $100,000 for each American that is still 30 trillion dollars.

If you give 300 million people 1 dollar each it will cost 300 million dollars (plus several dollars in processing costs for each check sent!).

The current total US National debt is around 10 trillion dollars. Divided by 300 million that means we each owe around $33,000 dollars to the national debt collection agency.

[sammytray]

Yeah but that's not what we'll get....

It's be a new system- based on greed and false currency....

what do you want 371? Would you still like to use $$$? Doesn't $$$ distract us?

The meek shall inherit the earth

Money holds us into ego and prevents us from "waking up". Take away a mans money then suddenly he listens. :winksmiley02:

[sammytray]

If you give 300 million people 1 million dollars each it will cost 300 TRILLION dollars.

If you give 300 million people 1 dollar each it will cost 300 million dollars (plus several dollars in processing costs for each check sent!).

right you are :original:

Can you do the math for 100,000 for each american?

There is a point to the thread.

[ralok_j]

Hmmmm again, it seems that this is what needs to happen. In order to bring change or a "new" system, the "old" must be purged, dissolved and gone. Isnt that what we want? A new system not based on greed and a false currency?

We may want this, but the majority may be scared of this. In order to to facilitate the change the current system would have to be exposed and destroyed. People would have to come to the realization that money, material goods, and consumption are the tools that caused the failure. But would this be positive? What if we, as a race, lost the desire or ability to continue medical research and treatment? What if our life spans decreased to an average of 50 years?

[Orion Morris]

right you are :original:

Can you do the math for 100,000 for each american?

There is a point to the thread.

You cant even do math....
You obvously never even thought about the concept of what your saying...
You have contridicted yourself....

First your are saying give us money... Then we dont need money...
:shocked:

[woodshreder]

This is as I have explained on a previous post Admitted to me by the office of Kucinich via a telephone converstion an actual option to our crisis
http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html
Peace Love Light

[Truth voice 2012]

I agree with both sides here in some way. I too want to be rid of the monetary system also (because its a control system like all the others) however, Ive my brain twisted in a knot trying to think of ways of how it could work and for the life of me I cant think of anyway it could be possible. We are so conditioned at this stage now that our brains havent the neural capacity to create new pathways to see things differently. Oh well, NWO: 1,
humans: 0 on this one. :tears:

[sammytray]

We may want this, but the majority may be scared of this. In order to to facilitate the change the current system would have to be exposed and destroyed. People would have to come to the realization that money, material goods, and consumption are the tools that caused the failure. But would this be positive? What if we, as a race, lost the desire or ability to continue medical research and treatment? What if our life spans decreased to an average of 50 years?

Well put,

Are you saying why can't we have a smmmmooooth transition?

Are we aware of a possible DNA transformation/enlightenment that will occur, thus allowing for the "new Paradigm" - ?

Maybe we as a race will "evolve" into beings who can heal?

[sammytray]

This is as I have explained on a previous post Admitted to me by the office of Kucinich via a telephone converstion an actual option to our crisis
http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html
Peace Love Light

This is interesting... no comment. :original:

[sammytray]

This is as I have explained on a previous post Admitted to me by the office of Kucinich via a telephone converstion an actual option to our crisis
http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html
Peace Love Light

Well yes... a comment

How does this help the "awakening" and being prepared for "new" cycles so that we can collectively bring on the "new Paradigm". I am certain Nesara teaches nothing about "who" we are and "what" we can "BE" or "BECOME"

[sammytray]

If you give 300 million people 1 million dollars each it will cost 300 TRILLION dollars.

If you cut that back to $100,000 for each American that is still 30 trillion dollars.

If you give 300 million people 1 dollar each it will cost 300 million dollars (plus several dollars in processing costs for each check sent!).

The current total US National debt is around 10 trillion dollars. Divided by 300 million that means we each owe around $33,000 dollars to the national debt collection agency.

You are right again,

Actually we already have about 35k on each americans head owed to foreign nations. -

Okay how about 20,000 to each american :original:

[ralok_j]

Well put,

Are you saying why can't we have a smmmmooooth transition?

Are we aware of a possible DNA transformation/enlightenment that will occur, thus allowing for the "new Paradigm" - ?

Maybe we as a race will "evolve" into beings who can heal?

You can't have a smooth transition. People would have to be beaten up enough to want to transition to something new. They would have to have lost all faith in our current system and have such resentment for it that a new bartering type of system would be a welcomed approach.

Now if we did transform into higher beings and were able to self heal, we wouldn't need our current system. :wink2:

[371]

what do you want 371? Would you still like to use $$$? Doesn't $$$ distract us?


Yes, and yes.

Considering I don't have any, yes I would like to have money to use. Does money distract us, yes- whether trying to get it or get more of it, and it does bring out the worst in people.

But a cashless society- hell no I don't want that!!

[ralok_j]

But a cashless society- hell no I don't want that!!

Interesting. Can you elaborate on why?

[371]

Okay how about 20,000 to each american :original:


I appreciate your opinion, but I still disagree. That's what they tried to do with the Bush 'stimulus' thing.

Any amount of money- whether for the wealthy businessman or the crackhead on the street- people are going to do with it what they will- help THEMSELVES. Whether to buy another oak desk or another crack rock, most people won't use it to improve their quality of life and will be in the same situation as before a few months down the road.

It's a band-aid solution.

[Orion Morris]

This is stupid! It has no point.... If you want to get rid of the system then quit talking about money... The original post is totally illogical and would NEVER happen... This is a waste of our time!

[371]

Interesting. Can you elaborate on why?

Sure, IMO a cashless society (at least in the near future) wouldn't be like where everyone shares and it's a utopia.

It would be like what the PTB are trying to do with RFID chips that deduct credits from your personal account when you buy something. These 'credits' are what you get paid for working, etc. except they only 'exist' in some central computer. Meaning you have to go through an intermediary for person-to-person transactions, so EVERYTHING is monitored. And if you run afoul of the PTB, they can 'shut off' your chip and you can't purchase goods, sevices, and are pretty much screwed...

[sammytray]

I appreciate your opinion, but I still disagree. That's what they tried to do with the Bush 'stimulus' thing.

Any amount of money- whether for the wealthy businessman or the crackhead on the street- people are going to do with it what they will- help THEMSELVES. Whether to buy another oak desk or another crack rock, most people won't use it to improve their quality of life and will be in the same situation as before a few months down the road.

It's a band-aid solution.

I agree 100% - that answer was for a previous post that was to say just what you said without saying it. :mfr_lol:

Ralok- is hitting on some key points.

I am sending abundance your way 371. It might not be in the form of cash though :thumb_yello:

[sammytray]

This is stupid! It has no point.... If you want to get rid of the system then quit talking about money... The original post is totally illogical and would NEVER happen... This is a waste of our time!

comon now Morris.... it was meant for contemplation, which brings in discussions of merit. Sorry to offend you. Nothing is a waste of time.

[sammytray]

Sure, IMO a cashless society (at least in the near future) wouldn't be like where everyone shares and it's a utopia.

It would be like what the PTB are trying to do with RFID chips that deduct credits from your personal account when you buy something. These 'credits' are what you get paid for working, etc. except they only 'exist' in some central computer. Meaning you have to go through an intermediary for person-to-person transactions, so EVERYTHING is monitored. And if you run afoul of the PTB, they can 'shut off' your chip and you can't purchase goods, sevices, and are pretty much screwed...

371, what is your "IDEAL" situation WITHOUT these systems you talk about. Maybe then it would help with the "new Paradigm" of experience. :thumb_yello:

[ralok_j]

Sure, IMO a cashless society (at least in the near future) wouldn't be like where everyone shares and it's a utopia.

It would be like what the PTB are trying to do with RFID chips that deduct credits from your personal account when you buy something. These 'credits' are what you get paid for working, etc. except they only 'exist' in some central computer. Meaning you have to go through an intermediary for person-to-person transactions, so EVERYTHING is monitored. And if you run afoul of the PTB, they can 'shut off' your chip and you can't purchase goods, sevices, and are pretty much screwed...

I understand your position now. I thought you were against a bartering type of system. I agree with you, no chips!

[sammytray]

here is an idea.... TRADE KNOWLEDGE which turns into WISDOM which leads into ENLIGHTENMENT which breaks down ALL "old" systems.

[371]

371, what is your "IDEAL" situation WITHOUT these systems you talk about. Maybe then it would help with the "new Paradigm" of experience. :thumb_yello:

Well, I guess the 'ideal' and REALISTIC situation would be to simply get the economy back on track. Sure it's corrupt, and greed-driven... But it works, or is at least work-able.

Life is unfortunately not all love and light, you can't have the good without the bad. Its about balance, and that's what I'd like to see- a balanced economy.

I know that's kind of a lame answer- but IMO it's the most realistic goal to shoot for right now at this point.

edit- that doesn't mean not to aspire to better paradigms, I'm just focusing on what could be attained NOW if things go right.

[sammytray]

Well, I guess the 'ideal' and REALISTIC situation would be to simply get the economy back on track. Sure it's corrupt, and greed-driven... But it works, or is at least work-able.

Life is unfortunately not all love and light, you can't have the good without the bad. Its about balance, and that's what I'd like to see- a balanced economy.

I know that's kind of a lame answer- but IMO it's the most realistic goal to shoot for right now at this point.

edit- that doesn't mean not to aspire to better paradigms, I'm just focusing on what could be attained NOW if things go right.

Thanks for sharing 371!

Isnt "balance" love and light? (light is darkness and darkness is light) :naughty:

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

lol@ THIS THREAD.. THE IDEA IS TO BANKRUPT THE WEST AND FORCE IT INTO 3RD WORLD STATUS.. THEN HAVE WW3 ECTECTECT.. SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUT BACK TO SLEEP BY THE NWO ANASTHETIC OBAMA.. WE ARE SCREWED KIDS GET READY FOR MAYHEM.. THATS GOES FOR THE ENTIRE WEST

[sammytray]

lol@ THIS THREAD.. THE IDEA IS TO BANKRUPT THE WEST AND FORCE IT INTO 3RD WORLD STATUS.. THEN HAVE WW3 ECTECTECT.. SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUT BACK TO SLEEP BY THE NWO ANASTHETIC OBAMA.. WE ARE SCREWED KIDS GET READY FOR MAYHEM.. THATS GOES FOR THE ENTIRE WEST

:lmfao: :tears: :mad3:

Goodness

What ARE you going to do about it?

[raegpoort]

This is why america is stupid....... Check your math!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!:lightsabre:

[raegpoort]

This is not even a First Grade Analogy!!!!!!

[sammytray]

This is not even a First Grade Analogy!!!!!!

My math was incorrect purposely, it was to bring in opinions on the real matter at hand. Who is the first grader now ? :naughty:

[Orion Morris]

My math was incorrect purposely, it was to bring in opinions on the real matter at hand. Who is the first grader now ? :naughty:

Ya right dude... This thread is irrelavent

[sammytray]

Ya right dude... This thread is irrelavent

ya dude ... your opinion is irrelavent... at this point. :original:

try being kind

[raegpoort]

Mindless.... don't blow smoke up my ass!!!!!!

Show me where you came up with that statement????????

Dumb is Dumber in my book!!!!!!!!!!

[371]

Alright, let's all just DROP IT.

I think everybodies made their point. ok?

[raegpoort]

Fine by me, but D&D is playing next door for him.....

[raegpoort]

OK!!

[sammytray]

Mindless.... don't blow smoke up my ass!!!!!!

Show me where you came up with that statement????????

Dumb is Dumber in my book!!!!!!!!!!

I could unload statements that would be-little you.. but by doing so I would be doing so to myself. As far as your ass goes... we'll leave that out of the conversation, I am not interested.

Much love and light to you raegpoort

Please stop writing on this thread in fact start your own and title it "how do I communicate correctly"

Peace

[raegpoort]

YEP!!! just as we all thought.............. Your mindless..............:tongue2:

[Jonah]

Stop the child like behavior people.

Find out what the Law of allowance is and try to understand it.

Perhaps you will find it unnecessary to be right all the time.

[sammytray]

Stop the child like behavior people.

Find out what the Law of allowance is and try to understand it.

Perhaps you will find it unnecessary to be right all the time.

Great law! Do you know the other 3?

[THE eXchanger]

one of the greatest things about living is "the eXchange"
and, how YOU monitor it !!!

how to trade it for something more, NOT something less

how you energetically, get what you need/want or desire
by helping another, to do a similiar thing

so, what does that equation, look like

is, it possible, to eXchange,
so, it is win-win for both sides,
it is, if the two parties, respect one another
and, provide, more, than, what is eXpected
as, it is that type of eXchange that fosters good growth


if you get something for NOTHiNG

what eXactly do you get for NOTHiNG ???

WOULD a magical handout of money,
really alter, change and shift, your equation,
as, it is almost conclusively proven,
that big lottery winners,
about 5 years later,
are often, in worse condition,
then, they were before, they had their windfalls.

i've had a few "free" moments in my lifetime,
but, after really closely examining the situations,
the free, ended up, having a much larger cost,
than, if i had paid or/or energetically earned it,
myself...
and, if i had paid for it,
in the first place, i would NOT have had, all the ****, that came
with free / or the handout.

i believe, this "nescara" stuff
is a pile of **** -- someone's idea of a forum
at one time, (probably 10 years ago)
that a lot of people, donated money to
and, someone lived quite well, off the donations

there is NOT an easy road through life
unless, you learn how to monitor all eXchanges
and, do so, in ways, that everyone in an equation can win
and/or at least trade evenly -- so, it is win-win on both sides

this is why, we must learn, to barter/eXchange/and,
trade with each other

that way, we know, who/and, why and where and hoW
and, when we realise that, a grand page in the whole cosmos, is likely to start to turn

do you pay attention who you are eXchaning,
and, trading with ???

do you KNOW the pockets all of your transactions are lining ???

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

[sammytray]

one of the greatest things about living is "the eXchange"
and, how YOU monitor it !!!

Wow! Thank you for writing eXchanger
I am thinking of whom I eXchange and trade with and appreciate what you have said. "do I KNOW the pockets all of my transactions are lining" ? I realize you are being symbolic of something here... are you picking up on something? :original:

Much love and light

[Average Joe]

Here is a great idea... mentioned on a talk show by Russell Crow.

Here is how you solve the american debt problem:

Every american citizen (what 300 M or so) should be given 1,000,000. Total government bailout - 300 Million. Wouldn't this kick start the economy? Wouldn't this put the money back to the people instead of the 700 Billion + to the crooks?

Hmmmm :original:

Big difference between 300 Million and 700 Billion +

Since when has 300 million times 1 million added up to 300 million? :mfr_omg:

I spot a teensy weensy little flaw in your plan.

You need to revise it to the American Government giving each citizen 1 dollar to make it add up. And thats not going to help is it? :nono:

[Average Joe]

Easy for him to say, he's frigging rich!

And very, very thick.

[sammytray]

Since when has 300 million times 1 million added up to 300 million? :mfr_omg:

I spot a teensy weensy little flaw in your plan.

You need to revise it to the American Government giving each citizen 1 dollar to make it add up. And thats not going to help is it? :nono:

Yes, you are right! It was not my plan, a discussion.

The math was wrong on purpose... The idea was to establish that no amount of bailout or "currency" will work. The "system" must come down.

[sammytray]

I agree with both sides here in some way. I too want to be rid of the monetary system also (because its a control system like all the others) however, Ive my brain twisted in a knot trying to think of ways of how it could work and for the life of me I cant think of anyway it could be possible. We are so conditioned at this stage now that our brains havent the neural capacity to create new pathways to see things differently. Oh well, NWO: 1,
humans: 0 on this one. :tears:

Hmmmmmm

[Average Joe]

Yes, you are right! It was not my plan, a discussion.

The math was wrong on purpose... The idea was to establish that no amount of bailout or "currency" will work. The "system" must come down.

And how, pray tell, does this establish that no amount of bailout will work?

All it establishes is that giving each American citizen 1 million dollars is unaffordable. Nothing more.

[sammytray]

You cant even do math....
You obvously never even thought about the concept of what your saying...
You have contridicted yourself....

First your are saying give us money... Then we dont need money...
:shocked:

You just dont get it. sometimes things are said to weed out those who would not have any value to what is being said. Do you believe in our monetary system? Do you think there is some great solution and that all the debt and ways people exchange (cash) will become balanced?

[sammytray]

And how, pray tell, does this establish that no amount of bailout will work?

All it establishes is that giving each American citizen 1 million dollars is unaffordable. Nothing more.

What do you think will work??

would you accept 1,000,000 and keep this system going??

Do you realize what opportunities lie ahead? I know (money) has no part of it.

[Average Joe]

I think that the bank bailouts will work and help stabilise the economy.

[sammytray]

I think that the bank bailouts will work and help stabilise the economy.

:original:

and then what?

all better

Average Joe

I certainly appreciate you and what you say. My intentions here are indeed good. I am wondering how you think a system designed by those who wish us to stay "down" in this vibration could help the economy? It is my understanding that we as the GC should be developing a "statement of purpose" to transcend through this system of deceit and bring into reality the new.

[Average Joe]

:original:

and then what?

all better




Yep.

The financial system won't fail, simple as that. Governments clearly don't want it to fail, hence bank bailouts, rather than saying to the banks "tough luck".

Anybody waiting for a complete economic collapse will be waiting a long time I think.

[sammytray]

Yep.

The financial system won't fail, simple as that. Governments clearly don't want it to fail, hence bank bailouts, rather than saying to the banks "tough luck".

Anybody waiting for a complete economic collapse will be waiting a long time I think.

Do you want the system to fail or do you wish to continue to participate?

[Average Joe]

I don't know.

Theres that many theories going around.

Some people say that the PTB are trying to engineer economic collapse for their own purpose. So economic collapse can't be good can it?

Some people seem to really want economic collapse - not sure why if you assume the point above to be true.

Some people want things to stay the same.

Governments clearly don't want economic collapse.

I really don't know what I wish for, but my opinion is that we won't have the predicted economic collapse. Sure there will be ups and downs and tough times, but total collapse? I can't see it.

With the waters so muddy and nobody really knowing what is the best scenario, you need to be careful what you wish for.

[THE eXchanger]

Yes, you are right! It was not my plan, a discussion.

The math was wrong on purpose... The idea was to establish that no amount of bailout or "currency" will work. The "system" must come down.

Math is one thing, that can NOT be wrong !!!

Relations - are very important

did you know most people, can NOT pass a test
given in grade 8, around 1890 - since, its too complicated for most minds

The new eXchange,
must be created,
in a way, in which,
it rides "side-saddle" to the old one,
so, then, it is,
a choice !!!

i know, it can be done,
trouble is, they probably would NOT like it,
it is NOT that the actual system,
is wrong, it is, that it is flawed

eXchange is the most important thing we do with others

from money eXchange,
to sexual eXchange, to just love eXchange

it helps us, form our characters

love
susan
the eXchanger

[MMe M]

No offense, but that's absurd.

One word: INFLATION.

Yes.
Way more absurd than giving every concievable angle to the corporations and none to the people. Inflation is well beyond any resolve now. We are the ones that do the living, the dying, the working, and the paying of taxes. It is inconcievable to help anyone else!

Its a wise dog that doesnt bite the hand that feeds it.

[Dusty Nothing]

Maybe an economic collapse wouldn't be such a good thing for people who enjoy material possesions, wouldn't be so good for anyone if it is used to issue in the new world order, but do I want things to change? personally, I do, and if it takes an economic collapse to wake the masses then so be it, though I'm sure a more positive route could be taken to achieve this. What I don't want to see is a really rough period for humanity which leads to nothing.

Chaos is a necessary tool of evolution

[runcable]

I don't really understand where the thread starter wants this conversation to go although I do respect questioning the system.

When I read the suggestion about giving everyone "X" amount of money, I visualize pictures of Germans using wheel barrels to transport enough money just to buy a loaf of bread.

[sammytray]

I don't really understand where the thread starter wants this conversation to go although I do respect questioning the system.

When I read the suggestion about giving everyone "X" amount of money, I visualize pictures of Germans using wheel barrels to transport enough money just to buy a loaf of bread.

Questioning the system, yes.

Establishing the truth that the "system" cannot repair itself with the "power" in place as it is today.

In additon, "We" the "people" should question our "attachments" Literally.

Maybe it was not the best way to bring up some points but my intentions were good and I am searching on a continual basis for answers. I appreciate and respect ALL who comment and share there view points. I have found that the answers "pop out" when more than one add there view points.

[Christo888]

Money ... virtually the most powerful boxing in tool of reality that TPTB have at their disposal, for without it most of your thoughts are tied to how to get it, and with it most of your thoughts are tied to how to protect it!

And this thread probably one of the most important subjects on Avalon that hons in on how the captivity of humanity has been established over eons.

This is a subject to work on!

[sammytray]

Money ... virtually the most powerful boxing in tool of reality that TPTB have at their disposal, for without it most of your thoughts are tied to how to get it, and with it most of your thoughts are tied to how to protect it!

And this thread probably one of the most important subjects on Avalon that hons in on how the captivity of humanity has been established over eons.

This is a subject to work on!

Yes indeed! Exactly! Well said Christo888 :thumb_yello:

[sammytray]

Money ... virtually the most powerful boxing in tool of reality that TPTB have at their disposal, for without it most of your thoughts are tied to how to get it, and with it most of your thoughts are tied to how to protect it!

And this thread probably one of the most important subjects on Avalon that hons in on how the captivity of humanity has been established over eons.

This is a subject to work on!

I would like to know if there is anyone here who can shed some light on the thoughts we have regarding money and how controlling and interfering it can be?? I guess if NOONE has money WE would certainly listen or "think" of other means to survive/evolve. Is this why at this time "money" as we know it is failing?? Is this also a "good" plan although possibly painful?? No money NO control??? :winksmiley02:

[Christo888]

Either program yourself or continue being programmed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiJk6MeBx54


Corporations have been knowingly using colors, logo’s and signs and symbols that were taken from “Treasures of Old” and are exactly synchronistically in-tune with your “chakras,” and DNA. Even to penetrate deep down into the mechanisms that activate the holographic instructions alongside the hormonal chemical 'binary' reactions of such, that “pull” and “tug” (temptations-addictions-habits-ailments, calculated drug dosages that prolong your misery, even ego creation), at your longing for achievements of the inner heart, but for their gain, their kingdom at your expense. In other words society has been woven into a forced gathering of your deepest Spiritual aspects from outside of yourself. What we were all here to achieve Spiritually, in order to grow our being into the fullness of all that we are, have had the tables turned so that we seek outside ourselves to gather all the possessions of fulfillment in order to satisfy those longings deep within which motivate us into self discovery. But that has been purposely withheld from our understanding by secreting and hiding the Truth of Knowledge from all across the ages. We have all been turned into human spirits of worker bees to grow a kingdom of a physical empire that those at the top (mere mortals whom have sold themselves for fortune and glory to some yet unknowns) revel in and further exert their drunken ego while we continue struggling to pay for their products that we think we are supposed to have.

If you are sick than stop eating the food supply; if you are weak then look within and above for the Sun is in your forehead; if you are thirsty then let your internal Violet fire ignite your breath into water; if you are hungry then fill your self with Milk, Honey, Oil, and Wine and let your gut (the Orange grove) be your garden of self-perpetuating flora from which to live off of; if you have no place to live than focus your own Sun in order to build heaven in your own Earthly body over time; if you have no money than wave your hands and stomp your feet to fill the world with Diamonds and Gold. Or, if you do not believe this than stand by and just watch the planned destruction of the entire system of planet earth right before your eyes. Planned destruction? The more that stand and watch the more likely the current path of an unraveling ‘bankers paradigm’ of control and manipulation will be administered patches to hold it in place at the expense of civil liberties, sovereignty, felicity and humanity’s inheritance of innateness of Freedom.
For without enough of those with self-awareness, personal responsibility, and discernment the unraveling energy has no direction of where to go next… for it is only ‘Thought’ that can create the Worlds and money only extends time in 3rd dimension because it prolongs the need to know what Truth of Knowledge is and pain and suffering are the result of ignorance by relying on others to solve our dilemmas.

That’s just my 10 cents down penny lane.

Even Paul Simon knew way back when without a doubt and just kept on playing!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OafqYNCzq5U

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

I think that the bank bailouts will work and help stabilise the economy.
interesting opinion.. what do you propose will happen when they guarantee the money markets and print all the money to honour the funds in savings accounts? its not a bail out, its a bank robbery and fraud!! this will save them nicely ty.. they have stated they will not lend any money out until they are recapitalised.. then we have the credit card derivatives and so on.. there is about 1.5 quadrillion dollars of levaraged worthless fiat paper out there.. how do you suppose we ever get out of this?? answer , we dont.. economic collapse is happening now.. its just in a surreal slow motion mode.. we will wait longer then we think but tis coming as soon as the first shot is fired in anger in the middle east..

[sammytray]

Either program yourself or continue being programmed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiJk6MeBx54


Corporations have been knowingly using colors, logo’s and signs and symbols that were taken from “Treasures of Old” and are exactly synchronistically in-tune with your “chakras,” and DNA. Even to penetrate deep down into the mechanisms that activate the holographic instructions alongside the hormonal chemical 'binary' reactions of such, that “pull” and “tug” (temptations-addictions-habits-ailments, calculated drug dosages that prolong your misery, even ego creation), at your longing for achievements of the inner heart, but for their gain, their kingdom at your expense. In other words society has been woven into a forced gathering of your deepest Spiritual aspects from outside of yourself. What we were all here to achieve Spiritually, in order to grow our being into the fullness of all that we are, have had the tables turned so that we seek outside ourselves to gather all the possessions of fulfillment in order to satisfy those longings deep within which motivate us into self discovery. But that has been purposely withheld from our understanding by secreting and hiding the Truth of Knowledge from all across the ages. We have all been turned into human spirits of worker bees to grow a kingdom of a physical empire that those at the top (mere mortals whom have sold themselves for fortune and glory to some yet unknowns) revel in and further exert their drunken ego while we continue struggling to pay for their products that we think we are supposed to have.

If you are sick than stop eating the food supply; if you are weak then look within and above for the Sun is in your forehead; if you are thirsty then let your internal Violet fire ignite your breath into water; if you are hungry then fill your self with Milk, Honey, Oil, and Wine and let your gut (the Orange grove) be your garden of self-perpetuating flora from which to live off of; if you have no place to live than focus your own Sun in order to build heaven in your own Earthly body over time; if you have no money than wave your hands and stomp your feet to fill the world with Diamonds and Gold. Or, if you do not believe this than stand by and just watch the planned destruction of the entire system of planet earth right before your eyes. Planned destruction? The more that stand and watch the more likely the current path of an unraveling ‘bankers paradigm’ of control and manipulation will be administered patches to hold it in place at the expense of civil liberties, sovereignty, felicity and humanity’s inheritance of innateness of Freedom.
For without enough of those with self-awareness, personal responsibility, and discernment the unraveling energy has no direction of where to go next… for it is only ‘Thought’ that can create the Worlds and money only extends time in 3rd dimension because it prolongs the need to know what Truth of Knowledge is and pain and suffering are the result of ignorance by relying on others to solve our dilemmas.

That’s just my 10 cents down penny lane.

Even Paul Simon knew way back when without a doubt and just kept on playing!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OafqYNCzq5U

:mfr_omg: now THAT is insight!!! I think this statement should be posted as a new thread! Soooo much can be contemplated and discerned. :thumb_yello:

[Christo888]

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[sammytray]

interesting opinion.. what do you propose will happen when they guarantee the money markets and print all the money to honour the funds in savings accounts? its not a bail out, its a bank robbery and fraud!! this will save them nicely ty.. they have stated they will not lend any money out until they are recapitalised.. then we have the credit card derivatives and so on.. there is about 1.5 quadrillion dollars of levaraged worthless fiat paper out there.. how do you suppose we ever get out of this?? answer , we dont.. economic collapse is happening now.. its just in a surreal slow motion mode.. we will wait longer then we think but tis coming as soon as the first shot is fired in anger in the middle east..

Yep , they are changing the original placements of the bailout money. :wall: