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777 The Great Work

11-08-2008, 08:20 AM

Hi Fellow Avolicians',

Luckily this didn't succeed during the Election (www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBaX9GPSaQ)! Are you happy that OBAMA got elected and do you think he will "Live" :wink2: out his Full Term ?

What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others.:wall:

Be aware Thursday at noon on the 20th. Thursday is Thors day of THUNDER.

RSF

11-10-2008, 11:02 PM

Daniels

11-11-2008, 03:45 AM

According to Bill Deagle's latest interview (Part 3 of 3) Obama is the worst choice..

:mfr_omg:

Frank Samuel

11-11-2008, 04:33 AM

Maybe we jump back in time and elect McCain, the he dies and Palin becomes President, I wonder what the future would have been like. Do you think she would have made a good persident ? In talking about Obama is all pure speculation, in reality we won't see much until about the summer. Either way this guy knows how to run a campaing, the Obama inner circle look more like average people who have known him since before he attended Harvard Law school. In 8 years maybe will see the first Asian or Indian president, in 20yrs. we will see the first arab muslim become president. Of course they will all be evil from our perspective and with each one of these future presidents the world will end because they are all anti christ. I'm just generalizing of course but you get the message. Who are we to judge others, that's my point. I'm giving Obama the benefit of the doubt for now, wether you do the same or not that's your choice. The difference as far as the happiness and quality of life depends solely on each one of us, beyond that trying to make ends meet is not easy and maybe we'll get a hand in diminishing the lost of jobs, if not we will still carry on. In our life the most important thing we can learn when knock down is not feeling sorry for ourselves keep your chin up and get up, no matter how many times you are knock down get yourselves up as quicky as possible. It does matter much whose is President if all we ever do is complain about the system, it becomes a unconcious habit hard to brake.
What else is new, this is just human nature.:naughty:

Orion11

11-11-2008, 04:38 AM

yep

Humble Janitor

11-11-2008, 05:13 AM

Can't understand that a member might ask if Pres Elect Obama "...will live out his term?.."?

He's inherited a republican mess brought to us by Bush2. I'd be surprised if he solves much of and fixes the financial mess before his first term expires. Personally, I feel he is certainly the best man for directing such an incredible task for the American People.

But -- yes, he'll live out his term, and win an elected second.

RSF

What you don't realize is that if enough of us say things like this, we could negatively influence Obama. I personally would not speak of death to anyone because I fear the influence of an actual death upon them.

RSF

11-11-2008, 05:38 AM

What you don't realize is that if enough of us say things like this, we could negatively influence Obama. I personally would not speak of death to anyone because I fear the influence of an actual death upon them.

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To tell you the truth, I may be Canadian and living a stones-throw from the USA, but the comments on this and many other PA/PC threads concern me far more than the Man, Obama and what he'll do during his first weeks, months ans through to the fourth year of his Presidency.RSF

PTTurboe

11-11-2008, 06:19 PM

Hi Fellow Avolicians',

Luckily this didn't succeed during the Election (www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBaX9GPSaQ)! Are you happy that OBAMA got elected and do you think he will "Live" :wink2: out his Full Term ?

Is a a NWO puppet.

He is for expanding the war into Pakistan...

Starting an ARMY of civilian gestapo....

He is being handled by Bzig - who wants a war with Russia...

His point main is a known Zionist....

You people are in for a very rude awakening...

Please wake up...

And I voted for him to change regimes. Will buy me some time.

They are all controlled by the same slavemasters....

Orion Morris

11-11-2008, 06:25 PM

I find it strange how all of this is coming together...

Obama ends his term in 2012.. He will be trying for re-election...

Barak
Hussein - Sadam Hussein
Obama - Osama Bin Laden

The recession is here now so he will be the president when we go through all of that. I just feel like he works for the NWO and it is all coming to the pivot point. He is the man the they chose to guide us through the crash because he is so popular and seems so clean.

His past is hidden and he is already surrounding himself with many of the top players of the elite...

mntruthseeker

11-11-2008, 06:26 PM

As another puppet , NO

whats the difference? We don't need a president/puppet anyhow.

we will make our own future here now today

joe2288

11-11-2008, 06:29 PM

id be more worried about this upcoming terrorist attack thats even been

talked about in the news i wonder what it may be an why the news media

is even talking about it

:smoke:

Orion11

11-11-2008, 07:21 PM

:sleep_1::sleep_1::sleep_1:

betweenyouandme

11-11-2008, 08:41 PM

id be more worried about this upcoming terrorist attack thats even been

talked about in the news i wonder what it may be an why the news media

is even talking about it

:smoke:

Wow... wait, what?
-scurys off to find info.-

redhead57

11-16-2008, 02:04 AM

RFburns

11-17-2008, 12:25 PM

Given the choices available I do think he was the best choice. I too am concerned about all the negative conversation about him being assassinated is putting energy into that outcome.

The thing that I find interesting is the dramatic difference in his appearance pre-intelligence report and post-intelligence report. The man looked like he aged 10 years in two days.

I think we all realize that things are in motion and there is likely not much that can be done to stop what is coming. What is coming? I think none of us can be sure, but with the knowledge that Kerry and Bill are putting out there, we have a better idea than most of society. red

He looked like he has aged 10 yrs in 2 days is because he is now getting intel and all the juicy stuff that the rest of us do not get to hear about or see.

It was the same effect with Bushy Jr, Clinton, and the rest.

Reality..the real one they are briefed on, hits them like a ton of bricks. Then suddenly, they become distant and incredibly out of reach.

Cheers!!!!

MAP

11-17-2008, 04:25 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh9AtXNbnYo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vq5_ePCGxw

:sneaky2:

Orion Morris

11-17-2008, 04:41 PM

ghglenn

11-17-2008, 04:54 PM

Thanks for that Map,

We all need to remember the true costs associated with the world we live
in today. I get kind of jaded by the love/light/ascension stuff at times, as
it seems that people don't care about the realities occuring in the hear and
now. Sure, we need to look toward a brighter tomorrow, but we need to
take care of today as well. I don't think it matters who is running the
show, the world is about ready to explode.

Fredkc

11-19-2008, 08:58 PM

Damnit! And I was doing so good, leaving this thread alone for nearly two weeks, too.

Let me say, to begin with, so I don't have to listen to a bunch of garbage assuming I was for the other guy, that: I believe with everything in me right down to my socks (which I am currently not wearing), that BOTH major parties, and the candidates they put forth, have all the affection, and concern for the future of this country, that a tick holds for the dog he's on. Clear? Good. With that:
Are you happy OBAMA is President Elect ?

If what this country needed to get it out of it's current fix was:

a lying, completely vaccuous, two-faced, man with a pretty smile,
whose entire carreer displays a history of polished manipulation for the single purpose of self-aggrandizement through the approval of others, though that approval is not based on his character;
whose actions bear out nothing of his claims about his past, or the welfare of this country,
and comes to the office as "completely owned" by silent factions bent on manipulating this country in ways not to our benefit as was G. W. Bush himself, then...

Yes, I am thrilled to death.

Whew! Now that I got that off my chest, it's lunchtime! :D

Fred

Bobcat

11-19-2008, 09:05 PM

Orion Morris

11-19-2008, 09:06 PM

Damnit!!! No you got me on this thread too! I was doing good!!!

Cant take it anymore ahhh!!!! LOL

Obama is another evil puppet! I cant believe that this pole has him in the lead...

BOTH PARTIES are driving the same ship! Your ass is headed off a waterfall with either canidate...

SEE YA

Damnit! And I was doing so good, leaving this thread alone for nearly two weeks, too.

Let me say, to begin with, so I don't have to listen to a bunch of garbage assuming I was for the other guy, that: I believe with everything in me right down to my socks (which I am currently not wearing), that BOTH major parties, and the candidates they put forth, have all the affection, and concern for the future of this country, that a tick holds for the dog he's on. Clear? Good. With that:
Are you happy OBAMA is President Elect ?

If what this country needed to get it out of it's current fix was:

a lying, completely vaccuous, two-faced, man with a pretty smile,
whose entire carreer displays a history of polished manipulation for the single purpose of self-aggrandizement through the approval of others, though that approval is not based on his character;
whose actions bear out nothing of his claims about his past, or the welfare of this country,
and comes to the office as "completely owned" by silent factions bent on manipulating this country in ways not to our benefit as was G. W. Bush himself, then...

Yes, I am thrilled to death.

Whew! Now that I got that off my chest, it's lunchtime! :D

Fred

bodzoyfa

11-19-2008, 10:00 PM

The title of this thread should be... Are you happy with the NWO... I am disgusted that even the people here on avalon are still buying into the political sitcom that is the American electoral process... Obama is part of the NWO.. that is a FACT

Orion,

Thanks for saying this. IMHO, a distinguishing characteristic of becoming fully "awake" is to realize and admit to yourself that the political show you see in front of you has two different scripts which are written by the same hands.

RSF

11-19-2008, 11:49 PM

The title of this thread should be... Are you happy with the NWO... I am disgusted that even the people here on avalon are still buying into the political sitcom that is the American electoral process... Obama is part of the NWO.. that is a FACT

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Hey there.

Pretty-concerning stuff you wrote there, Orion Morris. Would you mind providing an explanation and supporting facts please?

RSF

Orion Morris

11-19-2008, 11:54 PM

If your still in that mindframe then I suggest you do your own research...
Their is plenty of good information here on Avalon...
Why dont look it up your self and run a thread search for the title Obama... Then you can read the threads and draw your own conclusions....

But the main issue is that he is supported by the Clintons(puppets)... and he is funded by the same people who funded Bush... He is on TV meaning that he is part of the show... They dont give someone that much face time unless he is on their team... Nothing is going to change.

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Hey there.

Pretty-concerning stuff you wrote there, Orion Morris. Would you mind providing an explanation and supporting facts please?

RSF

brutus35

11-20-2008, 12:03 AM

So far, I think he is heading int he right direction.
Go to. http://change.gov/
Look at some of the videos about the transition protocol and other transparencies, and see if you agree with me...:trumpet::trumpet:

RSF

11-20-2008, 12:07 AM

I don't think it will make any difference who's in Office. Same agenda, same owners, same tribe.

It's not just America, it's global!!

I beleave we will win in the end though.

Screw the powers.

Peace to all and freedom

kindest regards

Bobcat

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Oh I dunno 'bout that. I mean, the Man's not even in office yet, yet so much fluff and stuff arises here and there demoting what the majority of American Citizens voted for. Sometimes after reading such goo, I wonder if we're suggesting negatives re Pres Elect Obama being elected or our own negativity's concerning this and that?

RSF

Ampgod

11-20-2008, 12:12 AM

I vote for no more presidents ever! :tongue2:

No president is going to "fix' anything!

I think there are some serious lessons on there way for the general public.

Orion Morris

11-20-2008, 12:13 AM

The thing is.... is that we dont get to choose our canidates... they are chose by the rich elite... 99% of the wealth in 1% of the population.... meaning 1% of the richest people in the world funded him...

Change.gov is an Obama propaganda project....

Look at his tax plan...
It follows the financial collapse perfectly... Tax everybody who makes over 250,000!! Ya right that means that every labor.. construction... manual business in the nation will have to fire all of their employees who work for them...

You dont understand.... a tax like that would hurt the poor people the most!

aliantha

11-20-2008, 11:35 AM

Err.....NOPE!

Check out some of this......If Im allowed to post links to David Ickes forum that is...oh well, I will have too see...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42381

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41754

Bobcat

11-20-2008, 12:54 PM

He still hasnt produced is real birth cirtificate and his real name is Barry Soetoro LOL

goody8504

11-21-2008, 08:12 AM

Obama is part of the NWO.. that is a FACT

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2890.htm

this whitehouse insider (who has been giving very accurate information well in advance of when it is announced in the media for years now) says otherwise. i realize there's a lot of people saying negative things about obama and the people he is surrounding himself with, but there's also a lot of people who believe the world is going to end in 2012.

what you have to realize is that there are many many people who are in this negative elite group who want to see things change and want to break away but they're scared to leave, and rightfully so. but let's not forget, these negative elite cannot control things forever. we're seeing them fall apart in front of our own eyes if you know what's happening on a deeper level. i'm not saying obama is a savior, but he is not the anti-christ either.

taken from 'the voice of the whitehouse'....
"Might it not be fair to give Obama some time in office before calling his chief of staff an Israeli terrorist? Bush could be led, and was, but it is very doubtful if Obama could be led by anybody.

Like Augustus or Lincoln (whom he closely resembles) he is clever enough to seek the opinions of others but mark this, he is his own man."

as they say, keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer

KassandraLoves

11-21-2008, 08:50 AM

as they say, keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer

Im SO glad you said this! Why dont we rejoice in an opportunity (if Obama is one of the bad guys) to keep someone like that under our insightful scrutiny?

I mean, We are all more awake now than ever before...So why dont we USE our better-than-ever-before power of discernment to watch his every move and see where it is SUPPOSED to take us, and where it actually does??

Im not saying its a good idea to have a jerk-bag (allegedly) in charge, but since we have for years and years, we should be used to it by now right? And the simple fact that our eyes are less "fogged" is a good thing.

We should stop harping so hard on WHO we are focused on and start paying more attention to our own new ideas and abilities to decide.

I mean, Shoot. If someones gonna do something really Douc*he-baggy, then Id rather him do it where I can see it as opposed to behind the scenes.

Let him be a "puppet" then. Maybe his strings will be visible enough to lead us to the hand holding them....

giddy

11-21-2008, 04:44 PM

Unfortunately for those who are expecting change from the new president elect this will not manifest itself in any positive way,
Next year will be bad for reasons I'm not prepared to go into on a forum that is monitored as much as this one but rest assured Obama is 'nwo' and the status quo has not been affected at all by his election.
The fact is Obama is a perfect disguise drawing attention away from real issues.

raulduke

11-22-2008, 08:41 AM

Wow.

Can you believe the poll is a perfect 50/50 right now at 32/32?

I won't vote and ruin it, because there's no option for:

"I'm happy McCain/Palin didn't win."

or: "It doesn't matter."

RSF

11-26-2008, 11:45 PM

Dunno, but suggest the world's watching this change of guard and from what I can tell, Mr Obama's the best bet for returning to Americans day-to-day well-being is priority one, on an equal basis to security.
One of Mr Obama's campaign speech lines that caught my attention was (paraphrased): (..you have to get in line, you have to pull yourself up by the Boot Straps !.. but that's hard to do when you don't have any boots !)

I believe past President Clinton and President Elect Obama have something in common, in that they share a serious care for the people's well being first -- at all levels. Where President Bush may have cared for making the wealthier and big-business wealthier. Just look at his spending practises. China has a huge stake as a financier.

Oh, I wanted to mention, President Bush's order took out Saddam Hussein, but as well as human life, Pres Bush also lost a F-117 to Iraqi Military. I wonder what they did with that crashed airplane?

RSF

Slerbot

11-27-2008, 07:52 AM

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RSF

11-27-2008, 08:13 AM

Hi & welcome Slerbot,

Wondering if you might expand with more info re part of your post:
" His notion of fixing Afghanistan/Osama is clearly either misguided or very hopeful rhetoric to build or bolster confidence in his military brainpower..." ?

Thanks,
RSF

Slerbot

11-28-2008, 12:05 AM

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davefla73

11-28-2008, 03:03 AM

I think he was chosen to give the stupid Masses, someone to follow in the hard times ahead they will do what ever he says as long as he sugar coats it! wait and see.:sweatdrop:

Alexandra

11-28-2008, 05:08 AM

Beware.
What you project will return to you triple fold.
All things come full circle and they gain momentum while doing so.
Much love and Hope to All on Avalon
This is my last post.

Alexandra:original:

KassandraLoves

11-28-2008, 06:30 AM

Heres a question to ponder.

Despite what you think Obama will do, do you HOPE he does good? Do you HOPE he turns around and does AWESOME things for us? Do you HOPE is the window into a new government?

Im not asking if you think he will or he wont and im DEFINITELY not asking if you like the guy, but do you WISH that will be a good man?

I wish and hope ALL of them decide be good. I hope Colin Powell makes a decision to rock. I hope Governor Palin decides to loosen up and do GOOD things for us. I HOPE Obama makes great changes in government and does things for the people and not for the PTB, and so on...

Do I like all of them? mmm...not too sure.....Do I know if it'll all happen how I wish it to happen? No. Do I think all the things I hope for will come true? Probably not. But it'd be cool wouldnt it? So i will continue, my friends, to wish that these people do whats best for us. And if its for nothing? Then NO SWEAT off my back. It takes NO EFFORT to hope. IN FACT, Im quite positive that it takes WAY MORE ENERGY to hate them and condemn them than it takes to "cross your fingers" and wish that they all act as catalysts for wonderful things.

Cant hurt hopin'.....s'all Im sayin.

Slerbot

11-28-2008, 12:47 PM

Good words Kassandra!

Yeah, in that vein you do have to leave a bit of 'space in the room' for new surprising stuff. If everybody feels negative and nervous and suspicious (and maybe waiting to be proved 'right' about their projected agenda's) of eveything, no-one will even see whatever little improvements might already be happening - some out there might even stop having a sense of humour:shocked:

raulduke

11-29-2008, 08:14 AM

Hi Slerbot and Kassandra,

Good points.

I've done my best to "do my homework" on Obama, but there are so many on both sides that are so vocal, that it makes the job extremely difficult as I'm sure we've all found. Unfortunately the loudest voices are usually from the most extreme opposite poles. So it can appear like the extreme "right" vs. the extreme "left", and the wild claims from both sides take center stage while other less fantastic claims are ignored. It's a huge waste of time for the (perhaps more rational) people in the middle who are then associated w/ the most extreme claims of whichever "side" they appear to be on, and discussions/debates, can get bogged down from get go, w/ these assumptions. I think it stems from our short attention span (as a society), in that we need something really sensational to get eveyone's attention (and hold it long enough for them to really grasp anything).

There's a few things that I've sorted out from all the bullsh*t that do make me wary of the man (no point in going into them here though), but that doesn't really matter, because while I did my homework and my conclusions are what they are, I can't really be 100% sure of any of it.

So regardles of what I think I know about Obama, I think what really matters (i.e, big picture) is that I absolutely do hope for the best for him, that he turns out to be a real representative of positive change. Best of luck to him because it's indeed a tall order.

efields

11-29-2008, 09:05 AM

Hi Fellow Avolicians',

Luckily this didn't succeed during the Election (www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBaX9GPSaQ)! Are you happy that OBAMA got elected and do you think he will "Live" :wink2: out his Full Term ?

Its a little premature to be asking this question. Don't you think? Prejudging serves no one. We shall know him by his works. He is not even President yet. Have I missed something?

mysticphoebos

11-29-2008, 10:54 AM

KassandraLoves

11-29-2008, 04:57 PM

Obama,

give us a break he is a staged cabal puppet a sold out freak in another brain dead show,
stop believing in "I am going to save you" falsehoods, please get over this political stupidity game it is childish and plain down right embarrassing to the human race, TRULY tis time to GROW UP GUYS, you have the POWER not them. take it back, Stop being sheeple. C/MON just do it...

Hope = Sheeple?

How? I dont expect anyone to make a truly good change for us...I just wish they would. Why is that bad? Why is that not being "grown up?"

I rather think its more grown up to hope for people to do good than it is to dwell on thinklinh they are always mean and nasty and will never turn it around....

taadev

12-04-2008, 08:17 PM

yep

While McCain's Bomb bomb joke scared the heck out of me as thought he'd be the choice of the Illuminati, Obama's lack of birth cert. give me the willies.

Also, his fond words of Kissinger were shocking.

As always we had the lessor of two weavils from which to choose; I HOPE Obama is ... only time will tell..

goody8504

12-05-2008, 05:15 AM

Obama,

give us a break he is a staged cabal puppet a sold out freak in another brain dead show,
stop believing in "I am going to save you" falsehoods, please get over this political stupidity game it is childish and plain down right embarrassing to the human race, TRULY tis time to GROW UP GUYS, you have the POWER not them. take it back, Stop being sheeple. C/MON just do it...

that's a bit condescending don't you think. lighten up. people are free to believe whatever they want. calling them stupid for their beliefs isn't going to help the situation...unless your goal is to create negativity. in which case, mission accomplished