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Sarge

11-08-2008, 05:13 PM

Since Barack Obama is elected president, will he be sworn in on the Bible?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKi0vSYHfq4

dundun305

11-08-2008, 05:25 PM

he is christian, and what if he was muslim this nation was not founded under a religion

GenerationIke

11-08-2008, 11:13 PM

I will bet he will be sworn in on a Bible.

371

11-08-2008, 11:24 PM

Who cares?

He says he's a Christian. If he isn't- who cares? Where does it say you've gotta be a Christian.

I've met more 'evil' Christians than I have 'evil' Satanists- and they worship evil!

sebring1963

11-08-2008, 11:28 PM

Too bad that all the people who know how to run the country are busy driving taxicabs and cutting hair.
—George Burns

Mike_Jetson

11-08-2008, 11:30 PM

Since Barack Obama is elected president, will he be sworn in on the Bible?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKi0vSYHfq4

Well done. Youve come here and posted a ******** youtube vid showing out of context remarks.

If this is deliberate then I hope you go away.

Try the full 2min section - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

AndyH

11-08-2008, 11:32 PM

Seeing as Bush swore on the bible to protect the constitution and no-one gave a hoot when he said it was just a "damn piece of paper", I can't see how anyone would object if Obama swore on the Codex Gigas.

Frank Samuel

11-09-2008, 12:00 AM

Okay I say he use the Bhagvad Gita to get sworn in, since I heard he's a Hare Krishna.I don't want to start any rumours. Well why not that's a new one, let me get to work I am to make a cd how Obama join the Krishna movement. You guys believe me right!!!:naughty: By the way I read the article about the Krishna thing on the Sorchal Fart website, a completely legitimate source of news. I am glad I keep myself so well informed....

fox222

11-09-2008, 01:31 AM

a masonic bible

dundun305

11-09-2008, 01:40 AM

i thought he was from crypton? man this sight is confusing. :mfr_lol:

777 The Great Work

11-09-2008, 02:00 AM

He won't be sworn in.:mfr_lol:

Myra

11-09-2008, 02:41 AM

Who cares?

He says he's a Christian. If he isn't- who cares? Where does it say you've gotta be a Christian.

I've met more 'evil' Christians than I have 'evil' Satanists- and they worship evil!

Yeah me too.

raulduke

11-09-2008, 01:51 PM

They could swear him in on a "Green Eggs and Ham" for all I care.

How is this remotely news, (because it's certainly not an update)?

Jenny

11-09-2008, 03:09 PM

Moved to Off topic.

:naughty:

KassandraLoves

11-09-2008, 06:13 PM

They could swear him in on a "Green Eggs and Ham" for all I care....

HAHAHAHAhahahahahahaa!!! Now THAT would be a truly GREAT moment in history.

:mfr_lol:

It may as well be a Dr. Suess book, considering the fact that the Bible is the absolute most drawn out game of Telephone I have EVER seen.

Humble Janitor

11-10-2008, 05:13 AM

Since Barack Obama is elected president, will he be sworn in on the Bible?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKi0vSYHfq4

He is a Christian. Of course he's going to be sworn in on the bible.

raulduke

11-10-2008, 02:15 PM

It may as well be a Dr. Suess book, considering the fact that the Bible is the absolute most drawn out game of Telephone I have EVER seen.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Yertle_the_Turtle_and_Other_Stories_cover.png

I was just thinking that "Yertle the Turtle" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yertle_the_Turtle) would actually be appropriate, as Dr. Seuss (Giesel) was believed to have written this as a critique or refutation of fascism. (Way deeper than anything 6 yr. old me ever considered for sure!)

And concerning the bible, I no what you mean all to well. So much has been lost/hidden through translation after translation. I have about thirteen yrs. of private catholic schooling under my belt (trust me, I'm not bragging!), four of which were at a Jesuit high school. My mom was in the convent when she met my dad who had dropped out of the seminary when he was drafted. Obviously niether followed through, but they remain very devout. They are good people, but i feel they simply have too much ingrained in their consciouness to completely consider my questions. They respectfully humor me (like the rest of the fam), but I can see that they immediatley refute any premise I provide about the "Christ Story" not being unique to "Jesus of Nazareth."

It's a bit rough at times but we get along great nonetheless, mostly because while they take much of the Bible as literal truth, I have been able to find some good in ther as well.

I read the bible (actually I haven't read it in years) like Seuss or Aesop. The stories can serve readers better if not taken as literal truth imo. The only problem there is that the "moral" so to speak" is not individually gleaned via the text, but rather someone else (clergy) that interperits the "moral" for you tells you what you should think about a particular story.

O.k. enough about that.

Anyone else have any ideas about good books to inspire Obama durring the inauguration?

Hemingway maybe, "The Sun also Rises". Good **** and bull story anyway.:lol3:

SoulSuspect

11-10-2008, 04:09 PM

He is displayed as a Christian to America and Europe but to the third world he is presented as a Muslim. So i think he should put both hands on the Quran and the Bible at the same time and raise his left leg. Then be sworn in, either that or combine both books into one and create the Qible or Buran. Then he only has too use one hand. A quick question, what secret society is Obama apart of?

One

Ali Quadir

11-10-2008, 06:51 PM

He is displayed as a Christian to America and Europe but to the third world he is presented as a Muslim. So i think he should put both hands on the Quran and the Bible at the same time and raise his left leg.
Hear hear!! And that devil's probably got a tail too!! :mad3:

The hypocrites they dare to call "the God of Abraham" one and the same God as "the God of Abraham" !!! That kind of blasphemy must not hold ! You're right my friend, and everyone should know it, Muslims and Christians are just not the same people !! We should forget about silly old Abraham whose wisdom not only brought forth the 3 religions in this world that together make up the majority of mankind. Silly Abraham who also made a pact with God for all of them. Everyone should finally understand that xenophobia is our GOD GIVEN RIGHT!!! If God had wanted us going across the globe making friends with everyone he would have sent us someone to tell us to do that....

I Have Learned
So much from God
That I can no longer
Call
Myself

A Christian, a Hindu, a Muslim,
a Buddhist, a Jew.

The Truth has shared so much of Itself
With me

That I can no longer call myself
A man, a woman, an angel,
Or even a pure
Soul.

Love has
Befriended Hafiz so completely
It has turned to ash
And freed
Me

Of every concept and image
my mind has ever known.

Written by Hafiz, a Persian poet from the 14th century.
Translated by Daniel Ladinsky

Let those who have ears hear!

Allie

11-10-2008, 07:31 PM

I'd just like to add that in the UK Parliament, the boxes which you might see the Prime Minister rest his documents on.....is full of bibles.:original:

The unspoken assumption is 'swearing on the bible'. or 'all words spoken here are in truth'....well.....who knows :lol3:

I'm for the Green Eggs 'n' Ham option. It would be more honest, perhaps.:original:

The point I'm trying to make is that it is rather irrelevant. He will do as well as he will do. What he is sworn in on is no longer particularly relevent to his real consciousness within the world.

shybastid

11-11-2008, 11:58 PM

KassandraLoves

11-12-2008, 12:19 AM

raulduke

11-13-2008, 04:55 AM

Ummmmm Escuse ME!

Yertle the Turtle happens to be one of the 1st books I learned to read to.
Dont mess with my Yertle.He has Nothing to do with it.Or was he a she?
Sigh ........ Ill go read it again.:mad3:

Sorry shy, I certainly didn't want to taint any childhood memories. I loved Yertle too (for some reason when I think of it though, it reminds me of the dentist's office). I read "Hop on Pop" w/ my nephew just last week.

However if you check the wiki link, it does indeed seem that Giesel wrote Yertle w/ facism in mind.

"Yertle the Turtle", in which the titular Yertle, king of the pond, stands on his subjects in an attempt to reach higher than the moon—until the bottom turtle burps and he falls into the mud, ending his rule. The story, among Seuss's most notable, is widely recognized as condemning fascism and absolute power; the despotic ruler Yertle was intended to parallel the dictator Adolf Hitler.

It seems that king Yertle was paralleled w/ Hitler, so his human counterpart does have some bad stuff on his hands.

This is not a bad thing though, as I will pose that subconsciously, Suess may be part of the reason that you are here (i.e; Suess taught children at a very formidable age that fascism is unjust).

THE eXchanger

11-13-2008, 05:10 AM

i loved a book
that might of been called
"the angel that had no light" ???
(but, i have NOT been able to find it)

i think obama, would have to be sworn in on a bible

i had a funny dream last night,
that everyone in america,
did their census,
and, declared they were muslims,
it created a big stir !!! LOL

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

371

11-13-2008, 05:16 AM

It seems that king Yertle was paralleled w/ Hitler, so his human counterpart does have some bad stuff on his hands.

This is not a bad thing though, as I will pose that subconsciously, Suess may be part of the reason that you are here (i.e; Suess taught children at a very formidable age that fascism is unjust).

Personally I liked "The Lorax"- that one had a good message as well.

Dr. Seuss is probably the first form of propaganda that children are exposed to- the good kind:original: