Cracking the Code

[GregorArturo]

So, I think I may of figured out the "ring bell twice" piece from Coral Castle with the notes C (256hz) and G (384hz). This is also based on C256/A432 tuning. This was part of the research I've been doing with earth's frequency and stuff (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6769) that I was talking about earlier. It took 30 hours this week of spreadsheets and math, but I finally got it. Thanks to whomever posted the Coral Castle video. It gave me purpose and a half. Also, think of Ed's right angle in Coral Castle. Also, the numbers 1,2,4,8,7,5 represent the material world, while 3 & 6 represent the spiritual world. The background image in the diagram is taken from Walter Russell's periodic table. Also, technically the wave size should double each octave.

http://www.code144.com/forum/download/file.php?id=155

Here is a list of the entire harmonics broken down if you're interested. The number in italics is the quantum number or decimal parity derivative. And as you may see, quartz crystal's natural resonance is 32768hz, otherwise a harmonic of C.
http://www.code144.com/forum/download/file.php?id=143

Here is how you define the harmonic notes through math. Down is doubling by two, while to the right is doubling by three, which is an integral part to why G and C are important, and all relates to phi and vortex mathematics. Our current use of A440 tuning is arbitrary and erroneous and was put in place by the Nazis because they knew this information, and what better way to hide it then to *uck with the notes of nature (by 1940's A440 was internationally accepted). All our music is out of tune (It still makes harmonic patterns which is the most important part, but the natural notes are off)!

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=4506

[JesterTerrestrial]

this is some amazing work you are doing :thumb_yello:

[truth-freedom]

Hello GregorArturo,
Great to see someone else captivated by this subject of subjects. It is such a beautiful mystery. Mysteries, for me, seem to somehow always leads to Tibet. I thought you may enjoy this info as you are SOOOO on the right track!
(How Ed Leedskalnin gained this knowledge is another beautiful piece of this mysterious tapestry!)

Excerpt from 'Anti-gravity and the World Grid' edited by D.H.Childress, ch.8, Acoustic levitation of stones by Bruce Cathie, pp. 213-217

A New Zealand scientist recently gave me an intriguing extract from an article published in a German magazine, relating to a demonstration of levitation in Tibet. After obtaining a translation by a German journalist, in English, I was amazed at the information contained in the story, and was surprised that the article had slipped through the suppression net which tends to keep such knowledge from leaking out to the public.

All the similar types of stories that I had read up until now were generally devoid of specific information necessary to prove the veracity of the account. In this case a full set of geometric measurements were taken, and I discovered, to my great delight, that when they were converted to their equivalent geodetic measures, relating to grid harmonics the values gave a direct association with those in the unified harmonic equations published in my earlier works.

The following extracts are translations taken from the German article: 'We know from the priests of the far east that they were able to lift heavy boulders up high mountains with the help of groups of various sounds...the knowledge of the various vibrations in the audio range demonstrates to a scientist of physics that a vibrating and condensed sound field can nullify the power of gravitation. Swedish engineer Olaf Alexanderson wrote about this phenomenon in the publication, Implosion No. 13.

The following report is based on observations which were made only 20 years ago in Tibet. I have this report from civil engineer and flight manager, Henry Kjelson, a friend of mine. He later on included this report in his book, The Lost Techniques. This is his report.

A Swedish doctor, Dr. Jarl, a friend of Kjelsons, studied at Oxford. During those times he became friends with a young Tibetan student. A couple of years later, it was 1939, Dr. Jarl made a journey to Egypt for the English Scientific Society. There he was seen by a messenger of his Tibetan friend, and urgently requested to come to Tibet to treat a high Lama.

After Dr. Jarl got the leave he followed the messenger and arrived after a long journey by plane and Yak caravans, at the monastery, where the old Lama and his friend who was now holding a high position were now living.

Dr. Jarl stayed there for some time, and because of his friendship with the Tibetans he learned a lot of things that other foreigners had no chance to hear about or observe.

One day his friend took him to a place in the neighbourhood of the monastery and showed him a sloping meadow which was surrounded in the north west by high cliffs. In one of the rock walls, at a height of about 250 metres was a big hole which looked like the entrance to a cave.

In front of this hole there was a platform on which the monks were building a rock wall. The only access to this platform was from the top of the cliff and the monks lowered themselves down with the help of ropes.

In the middle of the meadow, about 250 metres from the cliff, was a polished slab of rock with a bowl like cavity in the centre. The bowl had a diameter of one metre and a depth of 15 centimetres. A block of stone was manoeuvred into this cavity by Yak oxen. The block was one metre wide and one and one half metres long. Then 19 musical instruments were set in an arc of 90 degrees at a distance of 63 metres from the stone slab.

The radius of 63 metres was measured out accurately. The musical instruments consisted of 13 drums and 6 trumpets.(Ragdons) Eight drums had a cross-section of one metre, and a length of one and one half metres. Four drums were medium size with a cross-section of 0.7 metre and a length of one metre. The only small drum had a cross-section of 0.2 metres and a length of 0.3 metres. All the trumpets were the same size.

They had a length of 3.12 metres and an opening of 0.3 metres. The big drums and all the trumpets were fixed on mounts which could be adjusted with staffs in the direction of the slab of stone. The big drums were made of 1mm thick sheet iron, and had a weight of 150kg. They were built in five sections. All the drums were open at one end, while the other end had a bottom of metal, on which the monks beat with big leather clubs. Behind each instrument was a row of monks.

When the stone was in position the monk behind the small drum gave a signal to start the concert. The small drum had a very sharp sound, and could be heard even with the other instruments making a terrible din. All the monks were singing and chanting a prayer, slowly increasing the tempo of this unbelievable noise. During the first four minutes nothing happened, then as the speed of the drumming, and the noise, increased, the big stone block started to rock and sway, and suddenly it took off into the air with an increasing speed in the direction of the platform in front of the cave hole 250 metres high. After three minutes of ascent it landed on the platform.

Continuously they brought new blocks to the meadow, and the monks using this method, transported 5 to 6 blocks per hour on a parabolic flight track approximately 500 metres long and 250 metres high. From time to time a stone split, and the monks moved the split stones away. Quite an unbelievable task.

Dr. Jarl knew about the hurling of the stones. Tibetan experts like Linaver, Spalding and Huc had spoken about it, but they had never seen it. So Dr. Jarl was the first foreigner who had the opportunity to see this remarkable spectacle. Because he had the opinion in the beginning that he was the victim of mass-psychosis he made two films of the incident. The films showed exactly the same things that he had witnessed.

The English Society for which Dr. Jarl was working confiscated the two films and declared them classified. They will not be released until 1990. This action is rather hard to explain, or understand.: End of trans.'

The fact that the films were immediately classified is not very hard to understand once the given measurements are transposed into their geometric equivalents. It then becomes evident that the monks in Tibet are fully conversant with the laws governing the structure of matter, which the scientists in the modern day western world are now frantically exploring. It appears, from the calculations, that the prayers being chanted by the monks did not have any direct bearing on the fact that the stones were levitated from the ground.

The reaction was not initiated by the religious fervour of the group, but by the superior scientific knowledge held by the high priests. The secret is in the geometric placement of the musical instruments in relation to the stones to be levitated, and the harmonic tuning of the drums and trumpets. The combined loud chanting of the priests using their voices at a certain pitch and rhythm most probably adds to the combined effect, but the subject matter of the chant, I believe, would be of no consequence.

The sound waves being generated by the combination were directed in such a way that an anti-gravitational effect was created at the centre of focus (position of the stones) and around the periphery, or the arc, of a third of a circle through which the stones moved.

If we analyse the diagram published with the original article, then compare it with the modified diagram, we become aware of the following coordinates, and the implications, when compared with my previously published works.

The distance between the stone block and the central pivot of the drum supports is shown as 63 metres. The large drums were said to be one and one half metres long, so the distance from the block to the rear face of each drum could be close to 63.75 metres considering that the pivot point would be near the centre of balance.

My theoretical analysis, by calculator, indicates that the exact distance would be 63.7079 metres for the optimum harmonic reaction. By mathematical conversion we find that this value is equal to 206.2648062 geodetic feet, which is harmonically equal to the length of the earths radius in seconds of arc (relative to the earths surface) 206264.8062. This also leads us to the following associations:

(206.2648062 x 2) = 412.5296124 This number squared = 170180.68 which is the theoretical harmonic of mass at the earths surface.

The four rows of monks standing behind the instruments in a quarter circle added to the production of sound by their loud chanting and must be taken in to account in regards to the geometric pattern. If we assume that they were standing approximately two feet apart, we can add a calculated value of 8.08865 geodetic feet to the radius of the complete group. This gives a maximum radius of: 214.3534583 geodetic feet.

The circumference of a complete circle with this radius would be: 1346.822499 geodetic feet.

Which is a half harmonic of 2693.645 (unified field)

The distance from the stone block to a calculated point within the cliff face and the height of the ledge on the cliff face from ground level is given as 250 metres. If we can now imagine that the raised stone blocks pass through a quarter arc of a circle during their flight from ground level to the hole in the cliff face, then the pivot point of the radius would be coincident with this position.

The theoretical radius was found to be: 249.8767262 metres which very closely approximates the estimate. This converts to 809.016999 geodetic feet. The diameter of the full circle would therefore be: 1618.034 geodetic feet.

A circle with this diameter has a circumference of 5083.203728 units, which can be divided into three even lengths of 1694.4 It therefore appears that the levitated blocks, once resonated to a certain frequency, would tend to carry out a flight path that is coincident to one third of a circle. The spacial distance being equivalent to the mass harmonic at the center of a light field, 1694443.

The instruments used by the group, in theory, would also have been tuned to produce harmonic wave forms associated with the unified fields. The given measurements are in rounded off parts of a metre but in practice some slight variations from these measurements would be expected in order to create the appropriate resonating cavities within the instruments

The geometric arrangement, and the number of instruments in the group would also be a most important factor.

If the given measurement for each type of drum is modified fractionally and converted to its geometric equivalent an interesting value for the cubic capacity is evident.

The large drums:

1.517201563 metres long, 1.000721361 metres wide = 58.94627524 geodetic inches long, 38.88 geodetic inches wide = 69984 cubic inches capacity = 40.5 cubic geodetic feet capacity.

Therefore the cubic capacity for eight drums = 324 cubic geodetic feet This harmonic value is built into the world grid and is equal to half the harmonic 648.

The medium size drums:

1.000721361 metres long, 0.695189635 metres wide = 38.88 geodetic inches long, 27.00948944 geodetic inches wide = 22276.59899 cubic geodetic inches capacity = 12.89155034 cubic geodetic feet capacity.

Therefore the cubic capacity for four drums: = 51.56620136 cubic geodetic feet

14.97414932 centimetres = 5.895334377 inches = 5.817764187 geodetic inches = 0.484813682 geodetic feet

As the dish-shape was focused upward towards the stone block to be levitated it would be expected that some type of reaction would take place which had an effect on the mass. The geometric shape of the cavity does seem to be engineered in such a way the projected frequency vortex causes a reciprocal reaction to the mass harmonic of each block. The reciprocal of 0.484813682 = 2.062648055 Twice this value: = 4.12529611 The square of this value: = 17.018068 (the harmonic of mass at the earth's surface.17018068

I believe that there is not much doubt that the Tibetans had possession of the secrets relating to the geometric structure of matter, and the methods of manipulating the harmonic values, but if we can grasp the mathematical theory behind the incident, and extend the application, then an even more fascinating idea presents itself.

[GregorArturo]

Thanks guys for the support! Anyways, here's a simplified view of how the wave would look (Wavelength of C is 1 unit essentially, while G is 1.5 units). Ain't it pretty!

http://www.code144.com/forum/download/file.php?id=156

[777 The Great Work]

This does something to you internally when you look at it for a while,it draws you in. We are beginning to remember.:wall: THANKS

[Trishsgate]

Very thorough research Greg thanks it is quite amazing. :thumb_yello:

777 yes it does something internally :trumpet:

Love & Peace
Trish

[Leadman]

Greg, I commend you on the work you are doing.
My brain just goes gooey when I try to take a lot of this stuff in and I am still working my way through all the info on this subject.

If this has already been discussed, I am sorry, but I could not help noticing the following:

1) what remains of the generator/ magnet wheel is incomplete.
2) the old photos of the complete setup show pulleys & chains AND an old bicycle.
3) a wire should run from the mechanism. What about the Bell?
4) the heavy gate no longer works because the bearing is worn (perhaps some of the load was somehow lightened, to ease operation or when opening. a sort of harmonic resonance key, as in lock & key)
5) the bell should be rung twice.
6) what sort of metal would a 10 cent piece (of the time) be made of.

So, what if, after the construction of coral castle was completed, the mechanism was altered to become the entry system ?

Ringing the bell twice would result in a resonance being sent, via wire, to the mechanism. This would activate the mechanism, which would in turn activate the chain & pulley system and open the heavy door to allow access.
This would show the potential of the system (used in a different way) without leaving everything set up as it was originally used, again, a clue as to it's true purpose.

If this sounds stupid or ill informed (bear in mind I am still reading & watching information about this) then I appologise for wasting everybodys time. But this thought would not go away when looking at all this info.
I think the bicycle is a part of this aswell ( more clues ) it was not just parked behind the mechanism, it looked like part of the setup.

Is the 10 cents relevant to the entry process? the metal of the coin completing a circuit?

One piece of info I read, said that the wheel,although heavy, was effortless to turn. Also the Leylines intensified energy ( lightening the weight of the door, or increasing the force of the energy applied to it.)

I would be interseted to hear your thoughts on this, even if it is to say that I am reading something into this that is not there, or irrelevant.

I hope these thoughts are useful to someone.

Leadman.

[GregorArturo]

Greg, I commend you on the work you are doing.
My brain just goes gooey when I try to take a lot of this stuff in and I am still working my way through all the info on this subject.

If this has already been discussed, I am sorry, but I could not help noticing the following:

1) what remains of the generator/ magnet wheel is incomplete.
2) the old photos of the complete setup show pulleys & chains AND an old bicycle.
3) a wire should run from the mechanism. What about the Bell?
4) the heavy gate no longer works because the bearing is worn (perhaps some of the load was somehow lightened, to ease operation or when opening. a sort of harmonic resonance key, as in lock & key)
5) the bell should be rung twice.
6) what sort of metal would a 10 cent piece (of the time) be made of.

So, what if, after the construction of coral castle was completed, the mechanism was altered to become the entry system ?

Ringing the bell twice would result in a resonance being sent, via wire, to the mechanism. This would activate the mechanism, which would in turn activate the chain & pulley system and open the heavy door to allow access.
This would show the potential of the system (used in a different way) without leaving everything set up as it was originally used, again, a clue as to it's true purpose.

If this sounds stupid or ill informed (bear in mind I am still reading & watching information about this) then I appologise for wasting everybodys time. But this thought would not go away when looking at all this info.
I think the bicycle is a part of this aswell ( more clues ) it was not just parked behind the mechanism, it looked like part of the setup.

Is the 10 cents relevant to the entry process? the metal of the coin completing a circuit?

One piece of info I read, said that the wheel,although heavy, was effortless to turn. Also the Leylines intensified energy ( lightening the weight of the door, or increasing the force of the energy applied to it.)

I would be interseted to hear your thoughts on this, even if it is to say that I am reading something into this that is not there, or irrelevant.

I hope these thoughts are useful to someone.

Leadman.

Leadman! Thank you. What an interestinng note about the dime piece. In all honesty, the last question I really had was the material of the pyramid involved in the system, and well the dime is "The composition (90 percent silver, 10 percent copper) and diameter (17.9 millimeters) of the Mercury dime was unchanged from the Barber dime." However, I am not positive if that is the answer. Anyways, the dime represented the messenger God Mercury. It's something else that I can go check out.

Anyways, great thinking. I do not think there was a completed castle in store as you propose. He had finished as far as I knew and lived out the rest of his days in the castle. The door use to spin perfectly for a long time, and then broke. It was just perfect engineering that we weren't able to replicate when we fixed it.

The crank was in my guess was to lift the pyramid off the device, which for likely I am assuming was limestone. Other hypotheses I have is that it was aluminum or gold plated iron. The bike was used I am also assuming to spin the device, but he also had two generators I believe on the site.

The very last section of David Wilcock's Divine Cosmos talks about an experiment with pyramids, magnets, and rotation which leads to an inversion of the space time continuum. It is directly related to Ed's work, and it is not as complex as people are thinking. The question is transferring that energy from the pyramid to the stone, for me at least.

[ABHA]

Greg, I commend you on the work you are doing.
My brain just goes gooey when I try to take a lot of this stuff in and I am still working my way through all the info on this subject.

If this has already been discussed, I am sorry, but I could not help noticing the following:

1) what remains of the generator/ magnet wheel is incomplete.
2) the old photos of the complete setup show pulleys & chains AND an old bicycle.
3) a wire should run from the mechanism. What about the Bell?
4) the heavy gate no longer works because the bearing is worn (perhaps some of the load was somehow lightened, to ease operation or when opening. a sort of harmonic resonance key, as in lock & key)
5) the bell should be rung twice.
6) what sort of metal would a 10 cent piece (of the time) be made of.

So, what if, after the construction of coral castle was completed, the mechanism was altered to become the entry system ?

Ringing the bell twice would result in a resonance being sent, via wire, to the mechanism. This would activate the mechanism, which would in turn activate the chain & pulley system and open the heavy door to allow access.
This would show the potential of the system (used in a different way) without leaving everything set up as it was originally used, again, a clue as to it's true purpose.

If this sounds stupid or ill informed (bear in mind I am still reading & watching information about this) then I appologise for wasting everybodys time. But this thought would not go away when looking at all this info.
I think the bicycle is a part of this aswell ( more clues ) it was not just parked behind the mechanism, it looked like part of the setup.

Is the 10 cents relevant to the entry process? the metal of the coin completing a circuit?

One piece of info I read, said that the wheel,although heavy, was effortless to turn. Also the Leylines intensified energy ( lightening the weight of the door, or increasing the force of the energy applied to it.)

I would be interseted to hear your thoughts on this, even if it is to say that I am reading something into this that is not there, or irrelevant.

I hope these thoughts are useful to someone.

Leadman.

http://www.code144.com/

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=007207B2AF4E4299

http://www.leedskalnin.com/

hope these help:winksmiley02:

[herbivore]

this is effin great. i don't know what it means but it's great. tell me more about this.

[SoulSuspect]

Crazy, nicola tesla type stuff

[GregorArturo]

Yeah, I'm actively involved on the code144 forum. It's the only other forum I participate on at the moment. Essentially what these acoustics do, and especially after reading the Tibetan article, is that it creates a vortex of energy within a mechanical system, as sound is a mechanical energy. This along seems to be able to shield/negate gravity, however, with Ed's case and Coral Castle, the use of magnetic, electric, and torsion fields can in harmonic unity with the principles of the universe perform the same function.

Anyways, I want to start playing around with didgeridoos as you can get the notes absolutely perfect with them, and see what research info I can gain with it.

[RSF]

Crazy, nicola tesla type stuff

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Dunno.. but seems there's a dash of Einstein in there too.
RSF

[GregorArturo]

Here's a connection that just sparked off in my head that didn't occur to me initially in reference to the Mercury dime:

It represented the Roman messenger god Mercury on it, otherwise known as Hermes in Greek, or Hermes Trismegistus. This is the one and only Egyptian god Thoth who supposedly helped reestablish some Atlantean survivors as the Egyptian civilization while bringing along Atlantean technonlogy, and wrote the famous Emerald Tablet, the founding center piece for alchemy.

What we are essentially doing with these mathematics/physics is modern day alchemy.

[granny]

Yeah, I'm actively involved on the code144 forum. It's the only other forum I participate on at the moment. Essentially what these acoustics do, and especially after reading the Tibetan article, is that it creates a vortex of energy within a mechanical system, as sound is a mechanical energy. This along seems to be able to shield/negate gravity, however, with Ed's case and Coral Castle, the use of magnetic, electric, and torsion fields can in harmonic unity with the principles of the universe perform the same function.

Anyways, I want to start playing around with didgeridoos as you can get the notes absolutely perfect with them, and see what research info I can gain with it.

Gregor ...

Just wondering if you are familiar with Rodin Math?

http://www.markorodin.com/

Scroll down to the moving hand ... look familiar?


I believe torsion (vortex) based math is important.
There is definitely a sound component.

I am a math moron and since sound and music is math, I am a sound moron, but I get the idea of it and it makes total sense.

Gran

[GregorArturo]

Gregor ...

Just wondering if you are familiar with Rodin Math?

http://www.markorodin.com/

Scroll down to the moving hand ... look familiar?


I believe torsion (vortex) based math is important.
There is definitely a sound component.

I am a math moron and since sound and music is math, I am a sound moron, but I get the idea of it and it makes total sense.

Gran

I am very familiar with his work, and I would not of been able to of discovered this without the aid his research and discoveries. Thank you Mark!

[eaglespirit]

Hey Gregor, How are You doin'?! Great Stuff!

I have the book:
"How To Read His Writings",
The Unauthorized Guide To Edward Leedskalnin's Works!

http://www.amazon.com/How-Read-His-Writings-Unauthorized/dp/0970120206
http://photos.igougo.com/images/p98978-Homestead_Florida-Coral_Castle_Homestead_Florida.jpg

Great read ...and I'm sure You would find it useful and interesting to go along with what you are doing right at the moment!

When we make a time and place to meet up I'll bring it along! : ) : ) : )

[Scooby]

I recieved an Email from Marko a couple months ago that stated someone had used his theory to crack Solomons seal. It was pretty cool. Good work Grego! I think after contemplating hard that everything cn be explained by his work. Wish I had the patence and due deligence to do what you have done.

[Scooby]

You should make some large poster boards so they can be easily seen and do a video explaining it in as simple a terms as possible and post it on you tube!! It would be fun to be invloved in an experiment to try and levitate some objects with sound :thumb_yello:

[GregorArturo]

I recieved an Email from Marko a couple months ago that stated someone had used his theory to crack Solomons seal. It was pretty cool. Good work Grego! I think after contemplating hard that everything cn be explained by his work. Wish I had the patence and due deligence to do what you have done.

A couple days ago I was showing my work to my cousin who is a geologist, but now works in business. Anyways, she was very intrigued and actually understood being she came from a very mathematically dynamic family. When I mentioned Marko Rodin to her, and showed her the mathematical fingerprint of god to elaborate on my theory, she put out that I needed to go to Hawaii to meet this man. She insisted, "I don't know how you're going to get there, but you need to go there."

And well, with your comment, I just sent Marko Rodin an e-mail with my recent findings. Maybe we can collaborate and bring beauty to this world :)

[Scooby]

Hey Gregor, send me a PM with your email and Ill send you a PDF of what Marko sent me about the seal of solomon and how it explains the great pyramid as well, if you are interested. Like I said, make a video for us dummys. It took me at least three viewings of Markos video to get it. I am not that math oriented but I know when something is important. I'm an intuit and while I can't always see the mechanics of math My mind grasps its importance. Can't explain it it just does. Thats why I labored at Rodins stuff to understand and would love to see yours in visual simple terms as well. God's Richest Blessings~

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i was just looking inot this stuff now and had no idea where to begin or how.. i shall keep reading with interest.. i have the same 10 octave graph of the elements to.. i just didnt know what i was supposed to do with it.. i knwew it meant something.. great work

[AndyH]

I notice the mention of phi there. Interesting how it crops up in a lot of places.
I must admit I'm fascinated by it, ever since I was told about it in school (sheesh that was another lifetime lol).
Has anyone any extra info about phi?

This is a great site- http://goldennumber.net/
Lots of examples in biology,music and even poetry believe it or not :)

[Skylark]

Hi Gregor great work.
I'm getting into this area from Len Horowitz and Marko Rodin and am following with interest as time allows!
I think that after the doom and gloom peak people are now getting down to finding some solutions and as a previous poster said, remembering!
This is the direction to take. fascinating how that coral castle video shows the correlation between the maths of coral castle and the masonic symbolism. They have been keeping a very big secret and its time to get it out to everyone.

[Skylark]

hiya Andy!

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Hi Gregor great work.
I'm getting into this area from Len Horowitz and Marko Rodin and am following with interest as time allows!
I think that after the doom and gloom peak people are now getting down to finding some solutions and as a previous poster said, remembering!
This is the direction to take. fascinating how that coral castle video shows the correlation between the maths of coral castle and the masonic symbolism. They have been keeping a very big secret and its time to get it out to everyone.can someone provide me with info and material here.. im jsut now getting round to this area of things and would be grateful if someone can point me in the right direction.. im currently at the thoth and atlantis/lemuria stage of research.. coral castle ?? link ?:original:

[GregorArturo]

PHI IS THE FUNDAMENTAL PATHWAY FOR HOW LIFE EVOLVES IN OUR UNIVERSE AS IT IS ROOTED FUNDAMENTALLY WITHIN ALL MATHEMATICS

Phi is not only a ratio or a byproduct of the fibonacci sequence, but is interwoven into all forms of mathematics. It is integrated with prime numbers on a large scale, as even prime quadtuplets display ratios of phi within them. Prime numbers are of extreme importance as they are unique numbers that have only two factors (or divisors). Toss aside that BS term of one and itself. It is erroneous in understanding mathematics. The multiplication table is one of the most important things you can ever learn. It reveals the intricate patterns within numbers. The patterns reflect onto our own patterns in society and reality. It is not the sole number that is important, but its relation to another.

Here's a little intro to factors:

One factor - Guess what, it's one and one alone!
Two factors - All prime numbers
Three factors - The perfect squares of 4 and 9
Odd factors 5+ - All perfect square numbers (16 and 144)
Even factors 4+ - All other integers

These are the most important notions you can ever learn but they never reveal that to you in school. Phi is the rhythm is which these factors flow together and propogate the system of logic and mathematics. It is a truth one must hold to heart, and sadly, our education system does not focus on such things, and instead stress advanced mathematics as calculus to further one's understanding of numbers versus looking at the underlying existence and propagation of them.

You are not an idiot because you cannot due mathematics. You can seriously blame our education system on that. Why does India have the largest proportion of programmers, mathematicans, and physicists over anywhere in the world?

Well, the Vedas is a fundamental center piece of their society, one of the oldest texts on the planet. The Vedas is a mathematical masterpiece. Chants in the Vedas involve short and long syllables. You break that down into binary code, and they're reciting the fibonacci sequence. They're vocalizing the greatest pattern of nature. And the Indians understand the significance of this, and so they stress mathematics in their education system.

As you said, Scooby, you watched it three times through (I've only watched the first half but have read all his papers), and I am very glad for that, because it is of dire importance that people understand this. I cannot even stress it. Mathematics is the divine structure of the universe, and when one is able to contemplate that, true beauty will manifest before your eyes for an eternity.

[Scooby]

So what Im getting,(sorry, math dummy here) is that he must have some how formed a right angle to the stones he wanted to lift and at one angle inserted a C note and at the other a G note so in the middle of the right angle where the tones intersect they would form a wavelength that is proper to levitate the corral stone? so then if this is true one would simply move the tones toward the interection of the angle to move it to the required location which be at the intersection of the angle? Im not sure im using proper terms so help me out .

[GregorArturo]

The right angle monument at Coral Castle has nothing to do with the actual technique but signifies a specific purpose within how the technique is performed, at G and C propogate as 90 degrees perfectly to each other.

Marko Rodin's website with a summary of his work and in depth articles
http://www.markorodin.com
(http://www.markrodin.com)
275 Minute Presentation of his work - Recommend over the articles
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7911972442098545165

A video on Coral Castle and mathematical breakthroughs with it
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8908165456205611761&ei=iP7ESPP3JZrUqAOK-JW4BQ&q=the+secret+of+the+universe

[AndyH]

Mathematics is the divine structure of the universe, and when one is able to contemplate that, true beauty will manifest before your eyes for an eternity.

:)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=naIFSEn0uxY

[eaglespirit]

Lovin' This Thread and Energy of Re-Remembering and Re-Awakening!

You Gooooooo Gregor!

Wanted to put Ralph Ring's video link here also...as he was doing "hands on" work in his own living room levitating things with sound years ago! He was using simple items and speakers and amplifiers to get just the right vibration and frequency to suspend items almost flawlessly and steadily as long as the sound was there and balanced with electrical power.


Ralph Ring and Otis Carr:
http://www.projectcamelot.org/ralph_ring.html

[yohnor]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4182905293548090350 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8222679614108378695 Great thread, in the last video I posted, Stan Deyo shows how sound can make something levitate. Great work folks, now this forum is getting good.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

this is one of the best threads ive ever seen on avalon... my research has lead me to this exact spot just as you started this thread.. synchronicity is flowing like mad in my life right now.. :) thanks gregor

[GregorArturo]

this is one of the best threads ive ever seen on avalon... my research has lead me to this exact spot just as you started this thread.. synchronicity is flowing like mad in my life right now.. :) thanks gregor

Lol tell me about it! Things keep getting more and more ridiculous!

[herbivore]

275 Minute Presentation of his work - Recommend over the articles
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7911972442098545165



okay so i was deeply intrigued and started to watch this video, and along came his "Enneagram". http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/blog/wp-content/basic-enneagram.jpg In the style that Marko is presenting the enneagram I was immediately reminded of the freemason symbol. http://www.wishfulthinking.co.uk/blog/wp-content/basic-enneagram.jpg I've now only been an hour into the video and he's confirming my suspicions that the this enneagram is what the freemasons use in all of their symbolism. he says the 3 and 6 oscillate (light and dark/good and evil) and that the 9 is invisible. 3, 6, and 9 make a triangle (pyramid) with 9 at the top (all seeing eye).

has anyone else put these two together?

[GregorArturo]

And on that note, my interview with a TV producer went flawless today, but I'm not gonna give out the details on that until something actually happens. However, the assistant producer with the show believed every word I was saying about my research as she herself has been to Tibet and seen the monks themselves lift up the stones (levitation) along with many other amazing things that people could ever begin to comprehend. And if you have any faith in my words, I will tell you she was so unbelievably honest and passionate about what she was saying. Mmmmm, namaste.

[GregorArturo]

he says the 3 and 6 oscillate (light and dark/good and evil) and that the 9 is invisible. 3, 6, and 9 make a triangle (pyramid) with 9 at the top (all seeing eye).

has anyone else put these two together?

That's exactly right. I will justify as being an amateur mathematician, and physicist (as I have been nationally recognized for my work and well respected at my university) that Marko Rodin's work is undeniable and is literally one of the foundational understandings to how one begins to comprehend this reality and existence, the all that is.

Also, in the Emerald Tablets, Thoth says the 'Nine forms out of the formless'. Think about that one.

9=9
18=1+8=9
27=2+7=9
..... And so on for infinity. The omnipotent nine!

And yes, you are just one of many putting two and two together. Synchronisitic thinking is so absolutely beautiful.

[Scooby]

I want in on the levitation experiment!! Cuase I know you have to contemplating it. :naughty: I know it says you live in maine but if you do try it out there I hope you will post all about it so some of us in the NW can try it. I know what you guys mean about the sincronicty lately. I feel like my life is in constat syncronicity these days and its all Good!

[Steven]

Awesome thread! It is much appreciated. Thank you. I am learning something new to me, nevertheless it is like meeting a forgotten old friend in a forgotten familiar land. Steven

[no caste]

There's a venerable, old publishing house in India called Motilal Banarsidass. If anyone's interested in intro books about Vedic mathematics, here's a link. The books are not expensive (I'm not sure about shipping.) They publish books by all global citizens, east and west, up and down, scholarly, practical, from ayurvedic medicine, to karma theory or cooking. That's 1% of it.

http://www.mlbd.com/showBook.aspx?cat=59&id=202

[Christo888]

Lol tell me about it! Things keep getting more and more ridiculous!

The sounds of Jericho reborn at last...
Thank you GregorArturo!

[GregorArturo]

It gets better...

NOTE: DATA IS WRONG IN CHART. PLEASE REFERENCE OTHER CHART IN PROCEEDING POST FOR CORRECT DATA.

So a new idea occurred to me after the discovery of this article on Stone Levitation (http://www3.sympatico.ca/slavek.krepelka/ideas/stolev.htm). I do not know where the hell this article came from but with the rest of the website it's dated to 2001. I really recommend you browse through it. The guy seems to of figured out the primitive logistics to Ed's code.

Anyways, it occurred to me that there may be more than ONE sacred frequency on the basis of 90 degree propagation. Here's the new data set below:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=4693

The italics under Q are your quantum numbers or decimal parity derivatives (MOD 9, aka 12 = 1 + 2 = 3). Next to that is the frequency that is derived from the perpendicular angle, followed by its quantum number. After that is the angle derived from the first frequency, followed by its perpendciular angle (I just realized I mislabeled this as a complementary angle). There is the difference between each regular note too (sorta unrelated but shows how the notes are not linear based as contemporary harmonics is focused on). Otherwise, I whole other set of harmonic pairs is then derived implying that there are infinite number of pairs relating to a harmonic resonance of a crystal or rock. Quartz crystal resonates at 32768 hz, aka C, which is an overtone of 256hz. 256hz would essentially make quartz vibrate to an extent, and when immersed in torsion, electrical, and magnetic fields [as I am theorizing], the opposing frequency (G348) creates an anomaly of some sort that I have not been fully able to theorize in itself. In the physical sense, this leads to antigravity, even though it may not be 'true' antigravity.

[Christo888]

...In the physical sense, this leads to antigravity, even though it may not be 'true' antigravity.

Maybe E=MCsq Csq; adding back in the removed nemesis to 22 physics calc's: 'G',? A world with anti-matter / anti-gravity back where it belongs?

And seeing the real world outside of hollywoods Phi phenomena and Beta movement?

[GregorArturo]

...In the physical sense, this leads to antigravity, even though it may not be 'true' antigravity.

Maybe E=MCsq Csq; adding back in the removed nemesis to 22 physics calc's: 'G',? A world with anti-matter / anti-gravity back where it belongs?

And seeing the real world outside of hollywoods Phi phenomena and Beta movement?

First, E=MC^2 is based on mass relative to gravity. Gravity is not based on mass. Gravity is based on the rotary spin of an object, specifically an atom, but also applies on the macro level say with a flying saucer or a planet. When the planet spins, it forms an axis which generates your poles and a magnetic field. If you are referring to dark matter (anti-matter), then that is your torsion fields that are generated by this rotary spin, the so called graviton those dumb ass physicists are searching for while they play god with the LHC.

BTW, I just made another major breakthrough that explains and unearths patterns in Earth's frequency structure, no pun intended. Including the Solfeggio frequencies and the pyramids. Just need to work out some equations. Stay tuned...

[Christo888]

So... if Gravity is not based on mass then we never needed fuels and propellents? And anti-matter, dark-matter... a torsion field? So does equilibrium in some form allow the revolving door to open, a change in perceptual understanding, inside out let's say?

[GregorArturo]

So... if Gravity is not based on mass then we never needed fuels and propellents? And anti-matter, dark-matter... a torsion field? So does equilibrium in some form allow the revolving door to open, a change in perceptual understanding, inside out let's say?

Exactly, fuel and propellants are essentially primitive and very soon to be outdated. The door in my best understanding is do to some sort of equilibrium which Ed seemed to of understood very well.

Here is an updated chart of frequencies with their propagating frequency at 90 degrees to it, or perpendicular. Each of the perpendicular frequencies can also be branched out into its related harmonics/overtones.

I thought I had made an interesting discovery, as the Schumann frequencies (SR0-SR5) were in perfect linear order from 1 to 6 in terms of quantum numerology. However, I seen realized I was using complimentary angles, not perpendicular, which I have since fixed. Other interesting patterns I noticed due to this seemed to of disappeared. Regardless, it is an interesting synchronicity I stumbled on by accident.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=4698

The second set below is the Solfeggio frequencies while the third set relates to supposed harmonics with the pyramids. However, I have come across major discrepancies on these frequencies and currently working with my archeology professor at my school [who is really intrigued by my work] to resolve these frequencies. I have to lean toward that the Sarcophagus is 441 Hz, while the King's Chamber (Int 1) is 16 Hz. 33Hz (Int 2) is an obscure frequency I came across that is supposedly the frequency of the entire interior. Sar 3 and King are also pretty obscure. 16 Hz is also a perfect C, and is an undertone to Quartz's resonance (and 24 Hz is G). Also, the exterior of the pyramid at 1.5 Hz (G) collaborates with SR0. At the very bottom, you'll see F#. This is supposedly what the Egyptians considered very sacred and used it in chanting. F# is rather close to the natural frequency of the Earth's spin.

So, as I already stated, if one can find the natural resonance frequency of a stone/crystal, then find the frequency perpendicular to the stone while in the presence of a large magnetic, electrical, and torsion field, the stone will then levitate. And note, those fields CAN be generated by a human being, however, it requires a tremendous amount of psychic skill. The angle in which these angles propagate from [and in how they interact] I still need to work out fully with graphing/simulation.

[Christo888]

Light outside... dark inside. Light inside... equilibrium?

[Pierrot]

Here is a list of the entire harmonics broken down if you're interested. The number in italics is the quantum number or decimal parity derivative. And as you may see, quartz crystal's natural resonance is 32768hz, otherwise a harmonic of C.


Hi Gregor,

thank you for those posts, I love it ;-)

I have a difficulty understanding it though - what do you mean by "harmonics" in your post above? your excel sheet shows frequencies for "octaves" rather than "harmonics", unless there is something I didn't grasp in your explanations... (?)

I intend to put your numbers in a spreadsheet to see how the harmonics (overtones or partials) relate to each other - in nature, the sound C would produce overtones in the following order:

C - C(octave higher) - G - C(next octave) - E - G(next octave) - Bb - C(next octave up) - D - E - F# - G - A etc

Btw - in that other thread you write about C and A, a very special relationship in music, as A minor is the relative tonality to C major (they share the same tones), a lot of affinity like brother and sister ;-)

[DapperDaze]

First, E=MC^2 is based on mass relative to gravity. Gravity is not based on mass. Gravity is based on the rotary spin of an object, specifically an atom, but also applies on the macro level say with a flying saucer or a planet. When the planet spins, it forms an axis which generates your poles and a magnetic field. If you are referring to dark matter (anti-matter), then that is your torsion fields that are generated by this rotary spin, the so called graviton those dumb ass physicists are searching for while they play god with the LHC.

BTW, I just made another major breakthrough that explains and unearths patterns in Earth's frequency structure, no pun intended. Including the Solfeggio frequencies and the pyramids. Just need to work out some equations. Stay tuned...

Gregor, check out Nassim Haramein: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335
He shares your "dumbass physicists" belief. I think you two are completely on the same path, but it seems your views are slightly different on dark matter and gravity. His work on the unified field theory and sacred geometry of the tetrahedron, while paired with your work could be quite significant. I have no doubt all of this mathematically ties together nicely. I think what his work lacks you make for and vice versa. The video is long but flows nicely, enjoy.

[jaby]

275 Minute Presentation of his work - Recommend over the articles
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7911972442098545165


I watched this video at the weekend and it is brilliant. I kinda got lost in parts
but being into numbers and geometrical patterns I just tried to soak it in anyway.

At the moment I'm drawing out, photocopying and colouring, the big number grid that he used in the video...getting familiar with the number patterns.

Back in the 70s there was a Horizon programme on British TV and it was looking into the future...clips of what it might be like in 2000.
The years 2000 seemed a long way away then...lol. Like a mystical time when technology would be very advanced. Which to a degree it is.

But the bit that really grabbed me, and has stayed with me was when they did a short imaginary film when there was a device of some kind that could speed up dramatically, or create? food. There was a man who had a cauliflower in his hand..:original: and he was saying that in the year 2000 that food was produced like this, in the home. In this device, the details of which wasn't gone into. I forget a lot of the programme now...but that bit made a huge impression.

Soooooo when I watched the Marko Rodin video I sat up and took great notice when in the first minute of the vid he showed that board...with the heading...'The Grand Unified Field Theory'...and the third point down was...PRODUCE UNLIMITED FOOD.

.............................................


How I would love to be able to somehow to invent a shape that would use sound in some way? to energise it...and either produce food out of nowhere...maybe bring it through from another dimension? Or speed the growth up really dramatically. Like producing all the vegetables etc? that you might need on a daily basis....in the home. Without being beholding to any farmer/food producer/energy company.


I'm getting a bit ahead of myself here...but I'm talking about inventing something that would erradicate world hunger/starvation. If the what-ever-it-was was easy to make and 'energise'.


I don't know if I would be able to get this together...but I would love to. I'm just chucking this out, because who knows...perhaps I/we/you could make something like this.


I wonder if Marko Rodin could...my god, that man is so fantastic.
It just blew my mind at the end of the video when he said he was doing that name of god thing...( B + H ?) made into a guttural hum....and thats when he got all the stuff he discovered about the numbers and what they could do etc...

INCREDIBLE.....:thumb_yello:

.......................................

Hope you don't mind me going a bit off topic...I'm just buzzing with it all at the moment.

[AndyH]

Actually I find it a little amusing how E=MC^2 mentioned a lot.

It is basically Newtons F=ma taken to the extreme if you look at it for a mo :)

[ucan]

Richard Hoagland and Mark Rodin video

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/2057/Sacred_Geometry_and_Rodin_s_Coil_Mathematics/

Have you heard of Cymatics? - Look into it, it may help with your research!

[GregorArturo]

Hi Gregor,

thank you for those posts, I love it ;-)

I have a difficulty understanding it though - what do you mean by "harmonics" in your post above? your excel sheet shows frequencies for "octaves" rather than "harmonics", unless there is something I didn't grasp in your explanations... (?)

I intend to put your numbers in a spreadsheet to see how the harmonics (overtones or partials) relate to each other - in nature, the sound C would produce overtones in the following order:

C - C(octave higher) - G - C(next octave) - E - G(next octave) - Bb - C(next octave up) - D - E - F# - G - A etc

Btw - in that other thread you write about C and A, a very special relationship in music, as A minor is the relative tonality to C major (they share the same tones), a lot of affinity like brother and sister ;-)

Thank you Pierrot. My skills lay within mathematics and theoretical concepts, more specifically in the realms of sacred geometry than sacred harmonics. I just touched this subject the first time two weeks ago so my terminology may be off. So when I say harmonics I am assuming I mean octaves. What I would say C512, and wanted to then express C256, I would say harmonic I guess when I should of said octave. I only knew the other direction as an overtone. If I had a greater understanding of acoustic theory it would definitely help me greatly, but alas, I am purely a visual person at heart (however, that's changing).

Anyways, I just took like awhile to look over my work and comparing the only other piece of detailed information (http://www.creative-harmonics.org/science/index.html) I found on a correct 12 tone scale. It seems like my scale was actually just the perfect fifth, or the second harmonic past the octave of C. It turns out I have more work to do to develop the full twelve tone scale, and some more reading to comprehend it. Thank you for pointing this out, as I was hoping someone with some acoustic theory under their belt could help me.

However, looking at the holes in my data, it points to a more interesting conclusion that makes much more sense. So forget my data so far haha. I'll get back to you guys when I rework all this out as its more complicated than I thought. Also, if you can let me know if the twelve tone scale looks "perfect" to you on the website. I need to prove it mathematically first before using it, however, it disregards A as not 432, which I was apprehensive to go against. Back to the drawing board...

[GregorArturo]

I watched this video at the weekend and it is brilliant. I kinda got lost in parts
but being into numbers and geometrical patterns I just tried to soak it in anyway.

At the moment I'm drawing out, photocopying and colouring, the big number grid that he used in the video...getting familiar with the number patterns.

Back in the 70s there was a Horizon programme on British TV and it was looking into the future...clips of what it might be like in 2000.
The years 2000 seemed a long way away then...lol. Like a mystical time when technology would be very advanced. Which to a degree it is.

But the bit that really grabbed me, and has stayed with me was when they did a short imaginary film when there was a device of some kind that could speed up dramatically, or create? food. There was a man who had a cauliflower in his hand..:original: and he was saying that in the year 2000 that food was produced like this, in the home. In this device, the details of which wasn't gone into. I forget a lot of the programme now...but that bit made a huge impression.

Soooooo when I watched the Marko Rodin video I sat up and took great notice when in the first minute of the vid he showed that board...with the heading...'The Grand Unified Field Theory'...and the third point down was...PRODUCE UNLIMITED FOOD.

.............................................


How I would love to be able to somehow to invent a shape that would use sound in some way? to energise it...and either produce food out of nowhere...maybe bring it through from another dimension? Or speed the growth up really dramatically. Like producing all the vegetables etc? that you might need on a daily basis....in the home. Without being beholding to any farmer/food producer/energy company.


I'm getting a bit ahead of myself here...but I'm talking about inventing something that would erradicate world hunger/starvation. If the what-ever-it-was was easy to make and 'energise'.


I don't know if I would be able to get this together...but I would love to. I'm just chucking this out, because who knows...perhaps I/we/you could make something like this.


I wonder if Marko Rodin could...my god, that man is so fantastic.
It just blew my mind at the end of the video when he said he was doing that name of god thing...( B + H ?) made into a guttural hum....and thats when he got all the stuff he discovered about the numbers and what they could do etc...

INCREDIBLE.....:thumb_yello:

.......................................

Hope you don't mind me going a bit off topic...I'm just buzzing with it all at the moment.

Woah, now you're getting way ahead of yourself, but yes, for the most part you are absolutely right as it is indeed possible. Here is how one would go about it, but we (the common people) are still in the theoretical department on torsion (government sure ain't though). It would involve speeding up time with a large torsion field, essentially kicking up the spin of the atoms which would speed up time for say the vegetable (E=MC^2 comes in here again). However, the vegetable still needs light, air, water, and minerals/soil to grow. Does that mean it creates like vacuum of air and absorb massive sunlight, and super deplete the soil? Not necessarily, as torsion itself provides sustenance. That is how a yogi or Buddhist monk can fast for months on end with little or no food as the meditation induces torsion fields which provide sustenance. So with that notion, if you meditate, use reiki, expose yourself to orgonite, crystals, and sacred geometry, then indeed you need to eat far less than your average person. So yes, someday! I hope we'll be able to grow trees into our own uniquely designed hobbit homes and tree houses:)

[GregorArturo]

Actually I find it a little amusing how E=MC^2 mentioned a lot.

It is basically Newtons F=ma taken to the extreme if you look at it for a mo :)

However, there is a HUGE difference between linear and exponential acceleration (aka power, first and second). I can tell that time may seem to be linear, but I sure am experiencing it in an exponential fashion :-p That's a thinker for ya hehe.

[jaby]

Woah, now you're getting way ahead of yourself, but yes, for the most part you are absolutely right as it is indeed possible. Here is how one would go about it, but we (the common people) are still in the theoretical department on torsion (government sure ain't though). It would involve speeding up time with a large torsion field, essentially kicking up the spin of the atoms which would speed up time for say the vegetable (E=MC^2 comes in here again). However, the vegetable still needs light, air, water, and minerals/soil to grow. Does that mean it creates like vacuum of air and absorb massive sunlight, and super deplete the soil? Not necessarily, as torsion itself provides sustenance. That is how a yogi or Buddhist monk can fast for months on end with little or no food as the meditation induces torsion fields which provide sustenance. So with that notion, if you meditate, use reiki, expose yourself to orgonite, crystals, and sacred geometry, then indeed you need to eat far less than your average person. So yes, someday! I hope we'll be able to grow trees into our own uniquely designed hobbit homes and tree houses:)

Yay !

Thanks for the reply.....:thumb_yello:

Very interesting and informative....and I love the hobbit tree house idea.

[KassandraLoves]

WOW. Nice work guys...

[Gabe Gabriel]

Nice links lee Burton. Thanks

[GregorArturo]

I came across something inteseting while trying to ratify the concept if you can turn infinties into quantum numbers, specifically divisors of 9. Anyways, its seem that all factors that have a multiple of 3 as a numerator and a non-multiple of 3 as the denominator, then you can multiply the numerator and denomator together to get the quantum number. Just another example of why 3,6,& 9 are so bad @$$ haha. For example:

Fraction Shortcut: 6/5 = 6*5 = 30 = 3+0 = 3
Traditional Way: 6/5 = 1.2 = 1+2 = 3

I tested it with a bunch of numbers and it seems pretty solid as long as the fraction doesn't produce an irrational number. The irrational numbers was what I was trying to define.

However, let's take a look at the multiplication pattern of 7 (factors of 7):

Second number after comma is the quantum number
7*1 = 7,7
7*2 = 14,5
7*3 = 21,3
7*4 = 28,1
7*5 = 35,8
7*6 = 42,6
7*7 = 49,4
7*8 = 56,2
7*9 = 63,9

Now think of this:
3/7=3*7=21=2+1=3.
6/7=6*7=42=4+2=6.

Let's now look at 3.
3*1 = 3,3
3*2 = 6,6
3*3 = 9,9
3*4 = 12,3
3*5 = 15,6
3*6 = 18,9
3*7 = 21,3
3*8 = 24,6
3*9 = 27,9
Now you have nine thirds (aka nine one-thirds) that make up the number 3, or 9/3 (trying to make this sound simple). Apply the table to those nine-thirds, with the same notion of 7 in mind:
1/3=1*3=3
5/3=5*3=15=1+5=6
7/3=7*3=21=1+2=3

So this means we can now solve the quantum number for irrational numbers (aka infinities) as long as it can be written as a fraction! Hell ya!

Also, this made me think of my ultimate math question which I can't deduce with any math: Point nine repeating...
aka .999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

Now mathematicans will say that equals 9/9 or 1 but think about it; even if it does repeat on forever it's not 1! That's a mind *uck I tell ya.

[Christo888]

Gregor, love all the work your doing... the relentless passion, its so inside you.

Your'e a fan of Thoth! Circles and angles... but, circles not angles. John Lennon must have come unglued when he realized where there lyrics came from. And Thoth was 'Hermes' the trickster as well, to protect against the ego mind extremes like Adolf, whom knew quite a bit but was not allowing subtlety to operate of its own accord.

Awesome drawing you put together!

[herbivore]

I came across something inteseting while trying to ratify the concept if you can turn infinties into quantum numbers, specifically divisors of 9. Anyways, its seem that all factors that have a multiple of 3 as a numerator and a non-multiple of 3 as the denominator, then you can multiply the numerator and denomator together to get the quantum number. Just another example of why 3,6,& 9 are so bad @$$ haha. For example:

Fraction Shortcut: 6/5 = 6*5 = 30 = 3+0 = 3
Traditional Way: 6/5 = 1.2 = 1+2 = 3

I tested it with a bunch of numbers and it seems pretty solid as long as the fraction doesn't produce an irrational number. The irrational numbers was what I was trying to define.

However, let's take a look at the multiplication pattern of 7 (factors of 7):

Second number after comma is the quantum number
7*1 = 7,7
7*2 = 14,5
7*3 = 21,3
7*4 = 28,1
7*5 = 35,8
7*6 = 42,6
7*7 = 49,4
7*8 = 56,2
7*9 = 63,9

Now think of this:
3/7=3*7=21=2+1=3.
6/7=6*7=42=4+2=6.

Let's now look at 3.
3*1 = 3,3
3*2 = 6,6
3*3 = 9,9
3*4 = 12,3
3*5 = 15,6
3*6 = 18,9
3*7 = 21,3
3*8 = 24,6
3*9 = 27,9
Now you have nine thirds (aka nine one-thirds) that make up the number 3, or 9/3 (trying to make this sound simple). Apply the table to those nine-thirds, with the same notion of 7 in mind:
1/3=1*3=3
5/3=5*3=15=1+5=6
7/3=7*3=21=1+2=3

So this means we can now solve the quantum number for irrational numbers (aka infinities) as long as it can be written as a fraction! Hell ya!

Also, this made me think of my ultimate math question which I can't deduce with any math: Point nine repeating...
aka .999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

Now mathematicans will say that equals 9/9 or 1 but think about it; even if it does repeat on forever it's not 1! That's a mind *uck I tell ya.

the repeating 9s HAVE to have some relation to 9s significance. an infinite 9s! whichever numbers have the .99999... have a place in all of this.

[GregorArturo]

Gregor, love all the work your doing... the relentless passion, its so inside you.

Your'e a fan of Thoth! Circles and angles... but, circles not angles. John Lennon must have come unglued when he realized where there lyrics came from. And Thoth was 'Hermes' the trickster as well, to protect against the ego mind extremes like Adolf, whom knew quite a bit but was not allowing subtlety to operate of its own accord.

Awesome drawing you put together!

Thank you Christo! The passion is gonna be the death of me. I have to say I've done like 50 hours of mathematics this week, writing equations and looking for patterns and its gonna be the death of me. I got so much school work and stuff in the real world to do haha. I'm so sleep deprived that I am gonna meditate right now and call it a night. My body has finally caught up with my mind. Always been a Grade A insomniac, but meditation really helps relax my mind and get to sleep. However, there has been WAY to much stuff happening lately. I was talking to my friend and tell her all the things that just happened to me. And she's like "dear god all that's happened since I talked to you over two days ago." And I'm like, "No that's what happened to me today alone." Today was a little bit more chillax thank god. Time is certainly accelerating. In terms of psychic experiences, synchroncities, revelations, research breakthroughs, meeting people, and things going just right for me. It's so unbelievably overwhelming. What would be great is to law down and have a back massage. Mmmmm... Too bad all my massage therapists buddies are in Boston (aka it's the only way they can spin fire all the time).

Oh, and I redid a bunch of my work, redid some equations, inputs blah blah blah. Anyways, scrap C and G haha. It's actually C (256hz) and F (341.3 hertz) that propagate at 90 degrees to each other. Every other note has of coarse something that propagates to it, but they are an arbitrary frequency (No common note). What's interesting is the angle that propagates perpindicular to F#, the egyptian chant note, is 555.18Hz which is in between a C# and a D. Once I am confident in these frequencies (As now it's more mathematically sound, also being I understand acoustic theory much much more now) I plan on making some didgeridoos to precise frequencies, probably C and F, to work with quartz crystal. I'll release the stuff tomorrow. I need to sleep. Namaste.

[ABHA]

Hi, Gregor great work, the didgeridoo is a good idea, but for now to save time, Google free tone generator, there's stacks of good ones.
Scalar waves operate at 180 degrees to each other, just a comment.
Tom Bearden is an expert.

cheers good luck

[GregorArturo]

Hi, Gregor great work, the didgeridoo is a good idea, but for now to save time, Google free tone generator, there's stacks of good ones.
Scalar waves operate at 180 degrees to each other, just a comment.
Tom Bearden is an expert.

cheers good luck

Oh I know this. However, they also generate electromagnetic fields which I cannot control. Basically it introduces an unknown variable in the system, another wave, that I don't want.

[GregorArturo]

All right, I went through and redid everything. Made a mistake within the scale, well not really. Just underestimated it. The pic of sacred harmonics from before with the circles was correct. My scale was known as the perfect fifth, which is based on the prime of three (flip-flopped with the perfect third based off the prime of 5, so confusing). Anyways, once I threw in the other primes I got the twelve note scale, and redid all the angles so it includes all perpendicular angles to all these other angles. Take a look. Many of the perpendicular angles I could not define a quantum number due to them being irrational numbers. The Q stands for quantum number. The difference if there is is the difference in between frequencies. Range set is basically what octave range a frequency is in.

http://www.code144.com/forum/download/file.php?id=161

[herbivore]

i didn't want to make a new thread for this question but this is the most appropriate one...

why aren't marko rodin and nassim haramein collaborating?! they both live in hawaii...you'd think two geniuses would find each other on an island. they're perfect for each other! think of what 2 great minds could do together!

[jaby]

i didn't want to make a new thread for this question but this is the most appropriate one...

why aren't marko rodin and nassim haramein collaborating?! they both live in hawaii...you'd think two geniuses would find each other on an island. they're perfect for each other! think of what 2 great minds could do together!

Yes...I wish they'd get the 'unlimited food' thing invented! That was listed in the first minute of the four and a half hour Rodin video on Vortex Mathematics......

[GregorArturo]

Yes...I wish they'd get the 'unlimited food' thing invented! That was listed in the first minute of the four and a half hour Rodin video on Vortex Mathematics......

Well torsion is based on the spin of an atom, or an object, the rotation of it. Increasing the rotation is the same in terms of speed as in a linear motion, but it is circular, which generates gravity. But in this, if you relate this to the experiment DW mentioned in Divine Cosmos, if the torsion fields are increased to a certain point, then the spacetime continuum will be inverted, aka the object which was a pyramid disappears from our perspective in this reality as I would assume that means the object reaches the speed of light. Time has been shown to be affected by torsion fields. So using the same concepts within this experiment, while refining it with some of Ed's work (using his magneto from a Ford model T which was designed by John Keely), you can speed up time and cause the plant to grow at a tremendous rate. I think this would work best if you do this in an aqueous solution (hydroponically) versus soil, with using a UV light, I feel you could indeed accelerate growth a tremendous amount. Wow, I just thought of that all right now. I think I just thought of one bad ass science experiment, and I know just the plant to use it on hehe.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

hey greg i emailed the resonance project but it appears my emails cant get through!!!!!!!!!!! says delivery failure notification!!! i joined the mailking list and managed to reply to the conformation link... i asked if they have seen the www.code144.com video.. all these cats need to get together and do it quick.. your all on the right track!!!!!! man its gonna be a rocky next 4 years!!!! :)

[ADAM KADMON]

I've followed this same line of research and came to the same harmonic and resonate frequencies
as you did in the spreadsheet, however did not feel the need to contribute.
Thank you for taking the time to present it to a broader audience...

However, it's my firm belief the the time for intellectualizing is at an end, and that it's
Thelema, right action of Will that manifest the beneficial outcome that is possible through this
proper use of technology.

In order balance the music system and make real usage of this information and sound technology
it has to be put to use.

I would be interested in producing a book and a product for musicians, and music lovers,
with this information. And would like to come together to talk about possible approaches to doing this.

My initial thoughts on how to spearhead a project like this:

1) Take the digital versions of classical pieces done by Beethoven, Mozart, and the likes,
and feed them to a piece of audio generation software that has been "tuned" with the Solf. scale.
Produce an array of copyright free music from these classical pieces in the correct scale.
This is a start to get people hear the harmony and effect of this music in contrast to the err'ed
music being produced atm.

2) Produce a mainstream book with leaders in the field that who will collaborate on the project.
Establishing contact with someone who's name is already branded to music, or vibrational healing,
and presenting them with a draft and get them on board. Obviously, the final goal is to publish
these work and it's practical application on the shelves where "new" musicians and upcoming
generations can learn about it.

3) Produce a new "tuning" harmonical and other tuning devices musicians can purchase to re-tune their
instruments to the solf. freq. Something that costs, $20 - rather than $50 per tuning fork.

4) Custom order instruments from manufacturers of the upcoming "Hang Drum" or even basic guitars
and stock an online store with emphasis on revolutionary music by virtue of mathematical perfection
in the instruments themselves.

5) A BAND of musicians that are pleasing to a wide audience, ie alternative music, or rock and such
that has it's "angle" or news worthly aspect of it's self being that the music they play is perfect -
in relation to mathematical correspondences. I imagine Tesla Coils going off, alien sounding
instruments and a humble personae to the members of such a band.

I see these, or a integration of these on one large project with many collective minds working towards
the realization of the ideal of "Retuning the music instruments of the world into divine and mathematical
perfection for the healing of humanity" would be a way to actualize this information.

To make this happen, a movement needs to be established. A place of communication, and a "leader" in
the field to spearhead the movement and keep people inspired and motivated until it comes through to fruition...

If these actions aren't taken, then nothing changes and the opportunity at hand will slip away like a fading dream.

If these actions ARE taken, and taken well, you can see the actualization of a dream that will never be forgotten.

Adam K.

[jaby]

Well torsion is based on the spin of an atom, or an object, the rotation of it. Increasing the rotation is the same in terms of speed as in a linear motion, but it is circular, which generates gravity. But in this, if you relate this to the experiment DW mentioned in Divine Cosmos, if the torsion fields are increased to a certain point, then the spacetime continuum will be inverted, aka the object which was a pyramid disappears from our perspective in this reality as I would assume that means the object reaches the speed of light. Time has been shown to be affected by torsion fields. So using the same concepts within this experiment, while refining it with some of Ed's work (using his magneto from a Ford model T which was designed by John Keely), you can speed up time and cause the plant to grow at a tremendous rate. I think this would work best if you do this in an aqueous solution (hydroponically) versus soil, with using a UV light, I feel you could indeed accelerate growth a tremendous amount. Wow, I just thought of that all right now. I think I just thought of one bad ass science experiment, and I know just the plant to use it on hehe.


Go, go, go Arturo.....get the 'fast-food-fing' invented !!!

(ps FOOD I said......can't eat weeds...:original: :thumb_yello: :tongue2: )

edit to say...well we can of course (eat weeds)....but you know what I'm joking about.

[GregorArturo]

I've followed this same line of research and came to the same harmonic and resonate frequencies
as you did in the spreadsheet, however did not feel the need to contribute.
Thank you for taking the time to present it to a broader audience...

However, it's my firm belief the the time for intellectualizing is at an end, and that it's
Thelema, right action of Will that manifest the beneficial outcome that is possible through this
proper use of technology.

In order balance the music system and make real usage of this information and sound technology
it has to be put to use.

I would be interested in producing a book and a product for musicians, and music lovers,
with this information. And would like to come together to talk about possible approaches to doing this.

My initial thoughts on how to spearhead a project like this:

1) Take the digital versions of classical pieces done by Beethoven, Mozart, and the likes,
and feed them to a piece of audio generation software that has been "tuned" with the Solf. scale.
Produce an array of copyright free music from these classical pieces in the correct scale.
This is a start to get people hear the harmony and effect of this music in contrast to the err'ed
music being produced atm.

2) Produce a mainstream book with leaders in the field that who will collaborate on the project.
Establishing contact with someone who's name is already branded to music, or vibrational healing,
and presenting them with a draft and get them on board. Obviously, the final goal is to publish
these work and it's practical application on the shelves where "new" musicians and upcoming
generations can learn about it.

3) Produce a new "tuning" harmonical and other tuning devices musicians can purchase to re-tune their
instruments to the solf. freq. Something that costs, $20 - rather than $50 per tuning fork.

4) Custom order instruments from manufacturers of the upcoming "Hang Drum" or even basic guitars
and stock an online store with emphasis on revolutionary music by virtue of mathematical perfection
in the instruments themselves.

5) A BAND of musicians that are pleasing to a wide audience, ie alternative music, or rock and such
that has it's "angle" or news worthly aspect of it's self being that the music they play is perfect -
in relation to mathematical correspondences. I imagine Tesla Coils going off, alien sounding
instruments and a humble personae to the members of such a band.

I see these, or a integration of these on one large project with many collective minds working towards
the realization of the ideal of "Retuning the music instruments of the world into divine and mathematical
perfection for the healing of humanity" would be a way to actualize this information.

To make this happen, a movement needs to be established. A place of communication, and a "leader" in
the field to spearhead the movement and keep people inspired and motivated until it comes through to fruition...

If these actions aren't taken, then nothing changes and the opportunity at hand will slip away like a fading dream.

If these actions ARE taken, and taken well, you can see the actualization of a dream that will never be forgotten.

Adam K.

Adam I love you passion! However, you need to realize that the twelve note scale is what the music needs to be focused on, not the Solfeggio frequencies. The 12 note scale I have worked out, as many others have, is based on prime numbers. The Solfeggio frequencies are sacred frequencies that I do not fully grasp their mathematical significance besides the quantum numbers in sequential order 9,3,6,9,3,6 (low to high frequency).

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=4733

Now if you look at the list above, the base number is the lowest octave of a Solfeggio frequency that is an integer. The two of interest are 33 and 99 hertz, Mi and Ut respectively. Mi also is an octave 66 hertz. Now if you look at the ratios which are made by taken the frequency and dividing it by the note in it's upper range (396 hertz divided by 409.6 hertz, note E). The first ratio is based on the twelve note harmonic scale of primes. The second ratio is the note from a perfect fifth (what I was originally using for a scale). Both Ut and Mi have the same ratios. Both are related to factors of three of each other. Actually I just looked at Fa and La, and it applies the exact same, but not with Re and Sol. However, Re and Sol both involve the same integers but flipped around in opposite positions for each integer. '33' is also known as Christ Consciousness I believe. That's what made it stand out for me.

I am pretty sure that most of the classical music is using Verni tuning, which I know is more mathematically precise but I don't know what it uses exactly, either: C256, A432, or C256/A432 (if that makes sense) for a harmonic twelve note scale.

[GregorArturo]

Go, go, go Arturo.....get the 'fast-food-fing' invented !!!

(ps FOOD I said......can't eat weeds...:original: :thumb_yello: :tongue2: )

edit to say...well we can of course (eat weeds)....but you know what I'm joking about.

Yes, I am right there with ya. However, in terms of buds or flowers, it would be the coolest thing to see them grow and open up before your eyes. Think of a rose alone. Mmmm beauty....

[jaby]

Yes, I am right there with ya. However, in terms of buds or flowers, it would be the coolest thing to see them grow and open up before your eyes. Think of a rose alone. Mmmm beauty....

Wow...that is a fantastic thought....living ART.

I just love all those speeded up film of things growing.

The 'Fast-Fing' could create LIVING ART...my head is spinning with the thought.

[ADAM KADMON]

Adam I love you passion! However, you need to realize that the twelve note scale is what the music needs to be focused on, not the Solfeggio frequencies. The 12 note scale I have worked out, as many others have, is based on prime numbers. The Solfeggio frequencies are sacred frequencies that I do not fully grasp their mathematical significance besides the quantum numbers in sequential order 9,3,6,9,3,6 (low to high frequency).

http://projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=455&pictureid=4733

Now if you look at the list above, the base number is the lowest octave of a Solfeggio frequency that is an integer. The two of interest are 33 and 99 hertz, Mi and Ut respectively. Mi also is an octave 66 hertz. Now if you look at the ratios which are made by taken the frequency and dividing it by the note in it's upper range (396 hertz divided by 409.6 hertz, note E). The first ratio is based on the twelve note harmonic scale of primes. The second ratio is the note from a perfect fifth (what I was originally using for a scale). Both Ut and Mi have the same ratios. Both are related to factors of three of each other. Actually I just looked at Fa and La, and it applies the exact same, but not with Re and Sol. However, Re and Sol both involve the same integers but flipped around in opposite positions for each integer. '33' is also known as Christ Consciousness I believe. That's what made it stand out for me.

I am pretty sure that most of the classical music is using Verni tuning, which I know is more mathematically precise but I don't know what it uses exactly, either: C256, A432, or C256/A432 (if that makes sense) for a harmonic twelve note scale.

So be it. That's a step forward. A 12 note scale. If you notice, the Solf. freq are each separate by 111 with except of the middle notes in either direction. You can expand this up and down to create a total of 12 notes, and figure out their corresponding equivalents per octave, (approx 56 for each prime per note, taking the F# as your starting point, not C.

Perhaps you can enlighten me - why is there only 12 notes in our music system? It seems odd to me there is a black key missing on the piano per octave. And my understanding of the Egyptians, is that they operated on a 13 note system. The number 13 is closer to the true workings of nature than 12. In fact, a 12 based system seems obviously flawed when we take a look at the sacred numerology and phi or Fibonacci series. Our original calendar system, and zodiac was based off of 13. And since music is geometry in time/space, why not use a system of numbers that better resembles our true time/space reality, which would be 13.

[GregorArturo]

So be it. That's a step forward. A 12 note scale. If you notice, the Solf. freq are each separate by 111 with except of the middle notes in either direction. You can expand this up and down to create a total of 12 notes, and figure out their corresponding equivalents per octave, (approx 56 for each prime per note, taking the F# as your starting point, not C.

Perhaps you can enlighten me - why is there only 12 notes in our music system? It seems odd to me there is a black key missing on the piano per octave. And my understanding of the Egyptians, is that they operated on a 13 note system. The number 13 is closer to the true workings of nature than 12. In fact, a 12 based system seems obviously flawed when we take a look at the sacred numerology and phi or Fibonacci series. Our original calendar system, and zodiac was based off of 13. And since music is geometry in time/space, why not use a system of numbers that better resembles our true time/space reality, which would be 13.

I'd have to get back to on most of that, however, technically it is considered 13 notes, as at the end of the 12 notes it reverts back to C.

[ABHA]

Seems everywhere i look these days its all related, another name for vortex's is Victor Schauberger, but im sure you'll have heard of him. :zip:

Read a mention of 528 so,
According to Dr Len Horowitz some leading genetic bio chemist suggest frequency 528 is the miraculous repair frequency for damaged DNA.
There is a special sound and color of love according to Dr. Horowitz, a Harvard-trained award-winning investigator. Broadcasting the right frequency can help open your heart, prompt peace, and hasten healing. "We now know the love signal, 528 Hertz, is among the six core creative frequencies of the universe because math doesn't lie, the geometry of physical reality universally reflects this music; these findings have been independently derived, peer reviewed, and empirically validated," Dr. Horowitz says.

The Solfeggio Scale and note names;

1. UT...396 Hz (Center Pillar of the Tree)
2. RE...417 Hz (Left Pillar of the Tree)
3. MI...528 Hz (Right Pillar of the Tree)
4. FA...639 Hz (Center Pillar of the Tree) 5. SOL..741 Hz (Left Pillar of the Tree)
6. LA...852 Hz (Right Pillar of the Tree)

UT - 396 Hz -associated with releasing emotional patterns after: see RE-417Hz below.

RE - 417 Hz -associated with breaking up crystalized emotional patterns

MI - 528 Hz - relates to crown chakra; Dr. Puleo suggests an association with "DNA integrity" Transformation and Miracles

FA - 639 Hz - associated with whole brain quadrant interconnectedness. Connecting Relationships

SOL - 741 Hz - associated with intuitive states, non linear knowing. Awakening Intuition

LA - 852 Hz - associated with a pure love frequency: unconditional love and returning to Spiritual Order

The regular "C"that we all know of ; in this culture
(which is from the diatonic scale of do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti, do)
is not the 528 Hz frequency "C.

A regular "C" vibrates at a frequency of 523.3 Hz and that is 4.7 Hz lower.

The "C" of 528 Hz used for DNA repair is part of an ancient scale called the Solfeggio Scale. Dr Rife was another among the first to discover, how the frequency 528 strengthens the cell wall.

its all good, have a great day
:trumpet:

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i too have just got into victor shauberger and looking at kaballah. i naturally came to the sound and color frequency thing in my research... never did hiher level math tho :( this thread is getting out of hand woo woo :) this stuff is what avalon was made for

[feeler]

i didn't want to make a new thread for this question but this is the most appropriate one...

why aren't marko rodin and nassim haramein collaborating?! they both live in hawaii...you'd think two geniuses would find each other on an island. they're perfect for each other! think of what 2 great minds could do together!

Good point. I combined the two concepts from both men, and made a reference to both in "The Acceleration" thread. Here's the post:


A definite yes for me. This past weekend I woke up understanding the dynamics/significance* of Nassim Haramein's 64 tetrahedron grid (after scratching my head for a week). The foundation of reality is consistent to Marco Rodin's toroidal coil model. -feeler



* i.e. vectors, Newton's 3rd law of motion, black holes, zero point energy, vortex, singularity, etc.

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-feeler

[GregorArturo]

A regular "C" vibrates at a frequency of 523.3 Hz and that is 4.7 Hz lower.

The "C" of 528 Hz used for DNA repair is part of an ancient scale called the Solfeggio Scale. Dr Rife was another among the first to discover, how the frequency 528 strengthens the cell wall.

its all good, have a great day
:trumpet:

Not to argue, but just to inform you, C is the fundamental tone (the letter technically doesn't matter, just the frequency and note of the position). As it is the fundamental tone it is based off the first prime which is 2. Thus all notes of C are octaves of 2, which is always based on the doubling/halving of a note (also multiples of 2), thus C is also 256 an 512 hertz. You can have different tunings, in which that frequency works as C (music more importantly is based off mathematical patterns versus the actual frequency), however, these frequencies are the most natural.

[ABHA]

Not to argue, but just to inform you, C is the fundamental tone (the letter technically doesn't matter, just the frequency and note of the position). As it is the fundamental tone it is based off the first prime which is 2. Thus all notes of C are octaves of 2, which is always based on the doubling/halving of a note (also multiples of 2), thus C is also 256 an 512 hertz. You can have different tunings, in which that frequency works as C (music more importantly is based off mathematical patterns versus the actual frequency), however, these frequencies are the most natural.

Cool thanks, I get you :original:
I just thought it was an interesting aside,
Good luck and health.:zip:

[herbivore]

Go, go, go Arturo.....get the 'fast-food-fing' invented !!!

(ps FOOD I said......can't eat weeds...:original: :thumb_yello: :tongue2: )

edit to say...well we can of course (eat weeds)....but you know what I'm joking about.

hey this gives me a sarcastic idea. i may be thinking out loud here but think of how much money you could (infinitely) make if you subjected marijuana plants to this process? :mfr_omg: :roftl:

[GregorArturo]

hey this gives me a sarcastic idea. i may be thinking out loud here but think of how much money you could (infinitely) make if you subjected marijuana plants to this process? :mfr_omg: :roftl:

Oh it would destroy Maine's agricultural economy lol. It's our number one cash crop hahahaha. That's another thing too, as mary jane is a big part of Maine's heritage here, just like as some may know with Vermont. I can openly talk about the subject with teachers and adults because many partake in the activities themselves. You have a bunch more smokers than drinkers here, and plenty of it is locally grown. If you get caught with up to an ounce here as long as its in a single bag, its a $200 parking violation literally haha.

My friends get caught smoking in Portland, and the cops will confiscate the stuff only and just say, "Hey don't be dumb and do this in public. I don't wanna catch ya again."

The greatest advancement this could bring though is accelerated tree growth. Replant the planet plus mega wood supplies woot woot!

[fossileyesed]

I've followed this same line of research and came to the same harmonic and resonate frequencies
as you did in the spreadsheet, however did not feel the need to contribute.
Thank you for taking the time to present it to a broader audience...

However, it's my firm belief the the time for intellectualizing is at an end, and that it's
Thelema, right action of Will that manifest the beneficial outcome that is possible through this
proper use of technology.

In order balance the music system and make real usage of this information and sound technology
it has to be put to use.

I would be interested in producing a book and a product for musicians, and music lovers,
with this information. And would like to come together to talk about possible approaches to doing this.

My initial thoughts on how to spearhead a project like this:

1) Take the digital versions of classical pieces done by Beethoven, Mozart, and the likes,
and feed them to a piece of audio generation software that has been "tuned" with the Solf. scale.
Produce an array of copyright free music from these classical pieces in the correct scale.
This is a start to get people hear the harmony and effect of this music in contrast to the err'ed
music being produced atm.

2) Produce a mainstream book with leaders in the field that who will collaborate on the project.
Establishing contact with someone who's name is already branded to music, or vibrational healing,
and presenting them with a draft and get them on board. Obviously, the final goal is to publish
these work and it's practical application on the shelves where "new" musicians and upcoming
generations can learn about it.

3) Produce a new "tuning" harmonical and other tuning devices musicians can purchase to re-tune their
instruments to the solf. freq. Something that costs, $20 - rather than $50 per tuning fork.

4) Custom order instruments from manufacturers of the upcoming "Hang Drum" or even basic guitars
and stock an online store with emphasis on revolutionary music by virtue of mathematical perfection
in the instruments themselves.

5) A BAND of musicians that are pleasing to a wide audience, ie alternative music, or rock and such
that has it's "angle" or news worthly aspect of it's self being that the music they play is perfect -
in relation to mathematical correspondences. I imagine Tesla Coils going off, alien sounding
instruments and a humble personae to the members of such a band.

I see these, or a integration of these on one large project with many collective minds working towards
the realization of the ideal of "Retuning the music instruments of the world into divine and mathematical
perfection for the healing of humanity" would be a way to actualize this information.

To make this happen, a movement needs to be established. A place of communication, and a "leader" in
the field to spearhead the movement and keep people inspired and motivated until it comes through to fruition...

If these actions aren't taken, then nothing changes and the opportunity at hand will slip away like a fading dream.

If these actions ARE taken, and taken well, you can see the actualization of a dream that will never be forgotten.

Adam K.

:thumb_yello:what he said

[no caste]

I agree, fossileyesed! :thumb_yello: Thinking of connections....

[jaby]

hey this gives me a sarcastic idea. i may be thinking out loud here but think of how much money you could (infinitely) make if you subjected marijuana plants to this process? :mfr_omg: :roftl:


Yes Herbivore....BUT...my vision of what I've been calling the 'fast-food-fing' would be that it would be simple enough to build and energise, so that everyone could have one and big companies etc would be 'out of the loop'.

So...you could grow your own supply of what-ever-took-your-fancy....:wink2:......I know you were being sarcastic,:original: I'm just expanding on the 'unlimited food' concept.....cheers!


The greatest advancement this could bring though is accelerated tree growth. Replant the planet plus mega wood supplies woot woot!

Another fine idea. I like it. Marko Rodin is a mixture of spiritualiy and mathematical genius. Gregor...I do believe that with your intelligence and artistic leaning...you will go far. You obviously have the left and right brain firing on all cylinders....Go, go, go Arturo!!!

[herbivore]

alright i've sarcastically decided to make a rodin coil so i can grow 235247623 plants in my closet :zip: :naughty:

[GregorArturo]

So I've been working on this idea in how to make this device as efficiently as possible.

First thing one should consider is the notion of revolution/rotation/spin, specifically within that of the microcosm and macrocosm of a system. Here is the most universal example in understanding this concept, as Nassim relates with his work. The Earth rotates upon its axis, while it revolves around the sun. The sun then rotates upon its axis, while it revolves around the galactic center. On the other end of the spectrum referred to as usually the microcosmic aspect of the system can be seen with the spin of an atom and the electrons orbiting it.

However, with implementing this all into a system one has to take into effect the Coriolis effect which is to me the greatest factor [or hole] in overcoming the torsion field theory, just as with Einstein's theory of relativity and spin-angular momentum. This has probably already been devised and solved for, I just have not come to conceptualize it myself or read any research on the matter.

The Coriolis Effect Visualized
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Corioliskraftanimation.gif

So, the largest understanding in making this system, does one use a solitary rotation around a single axis, or revolve it around a single axis (like an orbit). The latter is how the experiment was carried out the David Wilcock described in the very last section of his book "Divine Cosmos" involving two pyramids rotating in around an axis moving through alternating magnetic fields (two sets of 16 magnets above and below the rotation) while being exposed to positive or negative ions.

Ideally, one would think that they should include both in the system. The notion I am interested in, specifically mathematically, how torsion fields are affected/created/distorted moving away from the axis, as in the force that is generated exponential, or linearly decreasing... I am assuming in terms of fractal theory when you implementing a double rotation system (as seen within our solar system) it causes a multiplier effect.

On a important note, from my reading into actual scientific understanding of torsion field theory, left hand spin increases torsion fields, while right hand spin reduces or more accurate shields against torsion fields. Now, I just spent some time researching more in depth into this universal example I used with the 'cosms' of revolution. All the planets in our solar system [except for Venus, which is very slow in the other direction and may be the reason why life there had to leave it] rotate counter-clockwise, and then orbit the sun counter-clockwise. Technically, our galaxy orbits counter-clockwise, but the notion of direction of spin relates directly to one's perspective. If we considered the south pole to be north, or say the top of the world, it would be the opposite or clockwise (right-hand spin).

However, this is where the unified idea of the basis to our reality might come into effect. The universe is isotropic in that there is a balanced amount of galaxies in the universe (50-50) that spin either clockwise or counter-clockwise. It is our system of revolution that dictates these laws of physics. Left hand spin of an object encourages cellular growth or increase cellular growth as you are moving in unison with the system, increasing energy, while right hand spin you are moving against it, decreasing energy in the system. This could might be more easily 'visualized' if this spin and its factor of energy be related to inertia. We exist in this reality by the property of inertial energy. Without this energy, one could say we cease to exist. Accelerating spin or increasing the energy would lead to higher levels of existence such as 4th density or within the thresholds of the speed of light.

This also relates to my theory of cubic and hexagonal/triangular structures (which I have seen generalized but not directly established), in which the former decreases/shields torsion fields, and the latter increases/propagates torsion fields. For the orgonite lovers out there, all metals are cubic crystal lattice structures, while organic substances are carbon based which are hexagonal crystal lattice structures.

Now with these ideas established, let's apply this to a system, the good stuff.

First, we would use a hollow pyramid, the materials it is made out of I am not sure, but most likely organic. I was thinking a limestone pyramid might even be very efficient. A good design would evolve a hollowed out empty pyramid inside essentially, reflecting the materialistic entity on the outer wall, and the aether (technically air) on the inside where one would place say a plant. For this experiment, agar with bacteria would most likely work great if one sets aside the notion that torsion can apply sustenance, which is another theory that needs to be scientifically proven [but at the moment assumed for good reason]. You could do this by having the base of the pyramid being removable, or in essence, is a the very base level of the pyramid, with like proportion of the top cut off, relates to the reciprocal proportion being the thickness of the outer pyramid walls. Think of the movie Star Gate where you have the ship land on top of the pyramid, now that internal stone pyramid, you cut off the top, leaving a vacant spot inside. I plan on making diagrams for this to help people better understand.

In terms of material, I also read recently that aluminum specifically shields torsion fields, which relates to the notion of how aluminum and copper are the only metals [supposedly] in the presence of each other [and this doesn't seem be a definite but they needed to be separated by a dielectric, like PVC or rubber] that generate torsion fields.

Next, would involve placing a large Rodin coil over the pyramid so it rests and wedges itself against it basically. Ideally, you want the Rodin coil to be perfectly balanced height wise with the pyramid, however, that is a theoretical notion and not necessarily true. The coil would NOT be connected to an external source, it that its soul purpose is generate a large magnetic field via the principal of an electric generator, however, the logistics of this I am not positive on (due to alternating magnetic fields) but would again assume (generation of electrical field explained later on).

One could connect [or maybe just be in the presence of] the coil to say a quartz crystal or fluorite (which the latter generates UV light I am pretty sure which would be beneficial to accelerated plant growth) based on it's various piezo properties. You would not want to use a light bulb as I can absolutely it would blow out in seconds due to overheating/too much current. This also brings up the notion of heat in the system, along with in the Rodin coil. I have a feeling that we do not fully understand thermodynamics and temperature. What I believe when it comes to this subject, heating is based on adding energy into a system, usually directly related to the spin or vibration of a particle or molecule. It is also attributed to the motion and collision of particles, specifically when in liquid and gaseous states of matter. So, in increasing all this energy in the system (as from what I know, basic torsion detectors focus on heat in organic substances such as the tension within nylon string), does this cause say the object in the pyramid to heat up, and maybe even burn? I have a feeling it does not. Does a psychic who uses a tremendous amount of energy necessarily burn themselves (makes you think of the phenomenon of human combustion)? I think there is much more to it, as we all do. Our understanding of physics is just touching the tip of the ice berg as we probably all agree unanimously.

Next would involve, either one or two sets of magneto wheels (the kind Ed used at Coral Castle which directly came from the Fort Model T and patented by John Keely in 1897, old but damn efficient in my opinion). I am leaning toward a set of two of them.

Now here is where we can drastically vary in design. Initially, I considered placing the pyramid with the coil in the center of the magneto wheels with one directly above and below the pyramid, and each aligned so that the north and south magnetic polarities line up between the wheels (so the wheels are shifted, instead of being mirror images of each other where the magnetic polarities line up in parallel unison which would mean north and north polarities were matching). The pyramid would the rotate around its center axis with the Rodin coil revolving with it. The coil moving through the magnetic field would [theoretically] generate a large electrical field in the coil along with a magnetic field.

The other concept involves having the pyramid with the coil rotate around a center axis counter-clockwise (orbit, not localized rotation) and most likely with another pyramid opposite to it (need balance and twice the work!). Ideally, these pyramids would also be [locally] rotating on their own axis counter-clockwise. The circular path of the pyramids would follow the actual location of the magnets (the outer band of the magneto wheel). This setup would be much much larger than the former. One thing to also note, the distortion of air [jets/steams] upon geometry [such as with the pyramid rotating on its axis, as its not a cone, it will have continuous pockets of air/space and then material [such as limestone] alternating in a perfect balanced manner] will also increase torsion fields as I found noted in some of the Russian research.

The last thing that I feel is important is the exclusion of external fields, even though they will increase the EM concentration, you want the frequencies to be in perfect balance and harmony, in essence, everything needs to propagate with perfect geometrical symmetry. This can be done by placing the device inside a Faraday cage as you are probably all familiar with. Also, I would recommend the electric motor that one would assume to spin the device be mechanical inside the system not to introduce other electrical fields even if they are balanced. I would feel most comfortable with the notion of just the Rodin coil and the magnetos for that effect. When I imply mechanical, I mean with the use of gears and belts, in which outside the system (Faraday cage) that it can be driven by an electric motor, or heck maybe in my bicycle (or directly by wind or water without the need of electric conversion) which can all then be geared (transmission system).

There are many other ways to vary this system obviously as this is just ideas I am throwing out based mainly on theoretical concepts and mathematical practicality. And as I always say, think about this one :) Namaste.

[Flying Pyramid]

Kudos Gregor on being so clever. And the rest of you too.
You are all on the right path and you are asking the RIGHT questions which is very, very important.

In light of your ambition allow me to add a few ideas to your growing theory.

Why are all of our notes off?
Because humans, animals, this earth, and every other planet reacts to vibrations. Harmony isn't just spiritual it's literal.
The proper convergance of music, physcic, and elemental properties will literally rip open time and space itself.

Why is the most powerful magic written in ancient latin?
The vibrations of those words harmonized together with the proper energy of material objects creates anything you will to happen.
Latin is a dirived language from the original language of the annunaki.
If you were fully you with all you abilities and you were to say a specific phrase it a specific tone you could do anything.
This is where sex magic comes into play.

It's all true. Your task is to find out it's focal point. Where does all sides become one frontal face. Where does it all come from and where does it all go.

Self divinity is very real.
Ask yourself why people like Charles Manson, Jim Jones, even society groups like The Illuminati, And a slew of others throughout history started out a being of light with fantastic physcic power and turned out being a being of darkness? Becase they became soul eaters. They gain a "right of passage" if you will by harnessing all the energy by those they've killed or had people swear their souls away to the entity. What allows these people to exist and do what they do? The answers go far beyond E.T.'s & Alatians.
They are "leftovers" of true beings of power......US!

We are not co-creators we are the creator. And all other life is an outstrethed version of us. Why is the humonoid form the universal template? We are the Alpha And Omega, The beginning and the end.
It always has been and allways will start and end with us.
You want to know what's out there? Start looking inside yourself.
Let your mind go there.
Keep following the breadcrumbs, gather info in ALL areas, discretit nothing. "If everything were are told isn't true and everything is a lie, then anything is pobbible."
Remember that disinformation is information that is not yet proven.
Keep your eyes open. Look everywhere. Start asking your guides during channels the questions i pose here. Ask them the truth. Start asking the right questions.
The fires of truth are raining down apon those that hold our secrets tight.
Thier grip is slipping and they fear us.

What is my purpose?

"Where there is fire i will carry gasoline."

[GregorArturo]

Kudos Gregor on being so clever. And the rest of you too.
You are all on the right path and you are asking the RIGHT questions which is very, very important.

In light of your ambition allow me to add a few ideas to your growing theory.

Why are all of our notes off?
Because humans, animals, this earth, and every other planet reacts to vibrations. Harmony isn't just spiritual it's literal.
The proper convergance of music, physcic, and elemental properties will literally rip open time and space itself.

Why is the most powerful magic written in ancient latin?
The vibrations of those words harmonized together with the proper energy of material objects creates anything you will to happen.
Latin is a dirived language from the original language of the annunaki.
If you were fully you with all you abilities and you were to say a specific phrase it a specific tone you could do anything.
This is where sex magic comes into play.

It's all true. Your task is to find out it's focal point. Where does all sides become one frontal face. Where does it all come from and where does it all go.

Self divinity is very real.
Ask yourself why people like Charles Manson, Jim Jones, even society groups like The Illuminati, And a slew of others throughout history started out a being of light with fantastic physcic power and turned out being a being of darkness? Becase they became soul eaters. They gain a "right of passage" if you will by harnessing all the energy by those they've killed or had people swear their souls away to the entity. What allows these people to exist and do what they do? The answers go far beyond E.T.'s & Alatians.
They are "leftovers" of true beings of power......US!

We are not co-creators we are the creator. And all other life is an outstrethed version of us. Why is the humonoid form the universal template? We are the Alpha And Omega, The beginning and the end.
It always has been and allways will start and end with us.
You want to know what's out there? Start looking inside yourself.
Let your mind go there.
Keep following the breadcrumbs, gather info in ALL areas, discretit nothing. "If everything were are told isn't true and everything is a lie, then anything is pobbible."
Remember that disinformation is information that is not yet proven.
Keep your eyes open. Look everywhere. Start asking your guides during channels the questions i pose here. Ask them the truth. Start asking the right questions.
The fires of truth are raining down apon those that hold our secrets tight.
Thier grip is slipping and they fear us.

What is my purpose?

"Where there is fire i will carry gasoline."

Hey Pyramid. Thank you for the information (even though it got a little off topic). As I just told the head of my philosophy department in what I do is "understanding the big picture". I don't just zero in on the mathematics or quantum theory. I look into the history and underlying pyschology of how those concepts are formed and then covered up :-p You take everything into consideration :) And yes, I've had guidance from the inside, questions answered, and even help forming these concepts. Namaste.

[GregorArturo]

I was hoping to get some response back on my latest concept above, not necessarily the 'device' at hand but some of the concepts I am putting forth like with left and right spin (came to me while writing it). I think it could be a fundamental concept in understanding the basis of the energy in our reality. It's a few posts up from this one with the little animation. Enjoy! :)

[Christo888]

Gregor, quickly you haved moved into the reality of us all, and you are truly gifted, so enjoy what you have already stated and maybe just let it percolate for a time and see where that takes you.:soccer_h4h:

[GregorArturo]

Gregor, quickly you haved moved into the reality of us all, and you are truly gifted, so enjoy what you have already stated and maybe just let it percolate for a time and see where that takes you.:soccer_h4h:

Thank you my friend. Namaste :wub2:

[truth-freedom]

Gregor-
Since you are 'cracking the code' of the pyramids, I thought you might enjoy taking a look at a program which will be airing Sunday at 9pm on NG. A pyramid researcher of many years who has been trying to figure out how the pyramids were built, has a theory about an 'internal ramp' system INSIDE the Great Pyramid (used for hauling the blocks upwards). I, personally, believe as you do that this was not a purely mechanical feat. However, of most interest, is a diagram shown at the end of this preview - a diagram (which the French research team that did the great study on the construction of the internal parts of the Great Pyramid found but DID NOT publish because they did not know what it meant!) showing the Great Pyramid with an internal SPIRAL. Sacred Geometry. If this diagram really is one that was found on the site as an ancient drawing, it could perhaps lend some clues.

Remember code144's reference to the spiraling numbers inside Ed's pyramid?

Here's the link to the preview (lasting 4:50) with the diagram at the end (4:24):
http://www.livescience.com/common/media/video.php?aid=24147

Have an inspiring day!

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

gregor for president ;)

[GregorArturo]

gregor for president ;)

Haha. I see myself being an 'elder' someday, not a president. But ya, ever see HBO's Rome? I feel myself as more reminiscent of Posca, Julius Caesar's personal slave/advisor. That'd be my role in things haha.

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/hsirhan/2007/01/15/poska.jpg

I decided over Christmas break, I am finally gonna teach myself Calculus, and then hop into some actual classical and quantum physics (which I really haven't done since high school besides necessary equations here and there). I've taken Calc twice, and dropped it both times. It just bores the hell out of me, not my kind of math.

I feel that alone would "boost" my resume you per say quite a bit, even though I did originally teach myself classical physics sophomore year. I already have a ton of books to keep me busy in my room on the subject. Thank god for TI-83s hehe.

[GregorArturo]

I really never thought of this until now, but the Solfeggio frequencies which I have been working with [and are most certainly unique in the mathematical sense], are also referred to as GREGORian chants. Hehe. I know this refers to Pope Gregory the Great (go figure) but ya, interesting little connection.

[jaby]

I really never thought of this until now, but the Solfeggio frequencies which I have been working with [and are most certainly unique in the mathematical sense], are also referred to as GREGORian chants. Hehe. I know this refers to Pope Gregory the Great (go figure) but ya, interesting little connection.

GREGORian chants.....your middle name isn't Ian is it? :original:

Nice connection......


Gregorian chant......Salve Regina.
link..http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=d5p_U8J0iRQ

[GregorArturo]

GREGORian chants.....your middle name isn't Ian is it? :original:

Nice connection......


Gregorian chant......Salve Regina.
link..http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=d5p_U8J0iRQ

My middle name is Arthur, as which with Arturo. As I am a professional dance performer (aka fire spinning and the likes), my name didn't have flow with my last name, so thus Gregor Arturo [has flow]. It's a Spanish/Italian variant to the name.

[jaby]

My middle name is Arthur, as which with Arturo. As I am a professional dance performer (aka fire spinning and the likes), my name didn't have flow with my last name, so thus Gregor Arturo [has flow]. It's a Spanish/Italian variant to the name.

:thumb_yello:

Bit of a spinning theme building up here.....

I'm picturing you doing your physics/mathematics then spinning around the room like a wizard......:original:

All the best to you, dear GregorArturo.....:surfing:

[norman]

................. C is the fundamental tone (the letter technically doesn't matter, just the frequency and note of the position). As it is the fundamental tone it is based off the first prime which is 2. Thus all notes of C are octaves of 2, which is always based on the doubling/halving of a note (also multiples of 2), thus C is also 256 an 512 hertz. You can have different tunings, in which that frequency works as C (music more importantly is based off mathematical patterns versus the actual frequency), however, these frequencies are the most natural.


Gregor, I like what your doing and I love the feel of this thread. I've been reading through and keep getting frustrated by the discussions about the 12 tone scale.

I did a bit of work on the subject a few years ago. My house has been emptied and my stuff is in storage. I have quite a lot of figures that I can't actually remember at the moment.

Anyway, I can't tell from looking at your spreadsheet if you are using "equal temperament" 'tuning' or if you are using "modal"(resonant) 'tuning'. There's an important difference, especially in regards to what you seem to be trying to achieve here.

Equal temperament tuning was 'invented' by Bach at about the time the keyboard was invented, to enable equality of the different 'musical keys'. It made any piece of music sound equally in tune no matter what key it was played in. It also destroyed the beautiful resonances that modal music had.

When an instrument is tuned modally, it sounds very resonant and 'sweet' in one key only. If you try to play in a different key it sounds c**p, you have to re-tune the instrument for the new key before it will sound 'sweet' again.

I'd guess that for the kind of applications you have in mind, you should be using the modal principle. I wish I had the figures here but I thought I should mention it. I'm not absolutely sure that you're not using the modal frequencies, I just can't remember the numbers right now.

The main thing is, you can only be resonantly accurate in one base frequency ('key') at a time. It doesn't matter what that frequency is, as long as you 'drift' the other frequencies of the chord or scale into resonant alignment with it. That's how it was before Bach, and still is with many modal purists today.

Hope that wasn't too many words for too little to say lol.


Also, while I'm here, number bases. I've never been able to understand why 'numerologists' see so much in base 10 numbers. If you change the base you change the numbers. (eXchanger, if you read this, I'm not looking for an argument, I'm looking for answers)

( on 12/13 note octaves, the base is 13 ; you get to 12 and go back to zero)
(as in base 10 ; you get to 9 and go back to zero)

I wonder if any of your amazing number theories could 're-invent' the actual number base that we use for these things based on the idea of having an octave at the base, as with the base 13 musical octave. If we were all taught western music instead of maths we'd probably all be counting in base 13. Just a thought.

Ok, that's me done for now. Great thread, let's see this happen. :original:

[Peer]

hai Gregor, I find it all very interesting but it goes far beyond my knowledge.
All I could see was when you would bring this knowledge together and build it in an 'apparatus' you would end up with a nice guitar....:serenade:
It's all there on the fretboard.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

In terms of material, I also read recently that aluminum specifically shields torsion fields, which relates to the notion of how aluminum and copper are the only metals [supposedly] in the presence of each other [and this doesn't seem be a definite but they needed to be separated by a dielectric, like PVC or rubber] that generate torsion fields.


would this be the reason they are spraying aluminium high up inn teh atmosphere in the upper atmosphere chem trails????

[no caste]

Gregor,

This thread sets thoughts in motion for me. Here are a few:

1. About: I have a feeling that we do not fully understand thermodynamics and temperature.

Absolutely! Well, OK, I could be boldly AND incorrectly agreeing. But I've thought over the years from the days of being an engineering dropout that there's something really fishy/wrong about a few things. Like that, for instance. I think gravity itself is misunderstood - it's about heat and cold and space. The dance is the mix of it, movement is its interaction, all playfulness (sanskrit:lila (http://vedabase.net/l/lila)) and relational. 'Force' is like a tension (relationship) between objects with varying temperatures. Or not.

From a Hegelian view point, it's the dialectic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic) that never synthesizes. Well, maybe ultimately, but it's more like a persistent/perpetual process towards synthesis. It's like ...yearning!

2. About: Building the plant-growing pyramid. Whew, sounds like a lot of work. Maybe it would be useful from an in-house grow-op point of view (and I mean veggies), but what I want to know is how's your didgeridoo coming along?

3. About: True notes.

Although I liked Adam K.'s plan for recording songs and sharing the knowledge far and wide, I'm thinking now. First, being a bit anarchic, it sounds like a lot of social coordination to me. There's still something in there though: a song. Next, the cautionary post by Flying Pyramid.

My plan now is to experiment at home, with a very simple song (Twinkle Twinkle Little Star) and see how it feels. Its few notes and innocent lyrics would be a good containment field. Do both versions, an A/B test, off/true. I'm all for phenomenological science (my motto: Goethe not Newton). Then, do a more complex tune, like Mad World by Gary Jules. See how it goes.

If it's all safe and sound enough to proceed, I see a new song with a popular songwriter who's seen many seasons, using these principles, not Beethoven or Mozart (maybe later). Lots of people playing in studio, using frequencies for healing and emotional stabilization, maybe cure cancer too... (I read about that frequency, a treatment developed in early 1900s ... somewhere...).

Just one song, unless everyone's pants go on creative fire, then an album. More songwriters then. Delay mass production of tuning forks. Studio time is a possibility in my world. A musical 'forum project' could be a broadcast. Any thoughts?


**About: mushrooms ('fungus' unrelated to this post)(re slippery mushroom patch bad dream) I read this today in a Wired blog - FYI. "There's a fungus distributed in the environment which allows for very precise targeting of individual's biological and psychological functioning. Watch the skies to know how it got there. Take note of your environment - micro fiber systems everywhere, especially in undusted places. Use a black light to see them if you don't "believe" me? Speaking of black, well, it's all black."

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i just watched the rodin lecture off google.. this is getting more and more exciting :)

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i was jsut watching rodins lecture and thought about his Z axis moving in phases of 3rds... and it reminded me of this crop circle. as he said its like a co ordinate reference and the the phases are like tiled space.


http://www.notempire.com/images/uploads/3d%20crop-2.jpg

my brain hurts ;)

[GregorArturo]

Hey guys, I've been pretty busy as of lately but anyways. Nah, I haven't worked on the didgs, just haven't had time. Did play some really nice ones today though at the meditation retreat I was at. I hope to do some experimenting next weekend. To really pull it off in the easiest fashion, my best would be using quartz crystal inside a faraday cage (a basic one). I want to try wiring my own rodin coil. If I make a larger size one I feel it would be much easier to wire (and more powerful of course). Then use two didgs at 90 degrees to each other aiming at the crystal using the notes C and F. However, I want to do some graphing work (possible simulation) on the wave propagation first. Thanks no caste for sharing. Good luck with your work!

Thanks Norman. I will look into that. As I said with no caste, I need to do some more graphing to see how the waves propagate in terms of each other to verify any of this. Also, base ten is mathematically sound. It's completely natural.

And any metal for the most part that is vaporized in a particle form as far as I know is not good for you. I know aluminum in the body is very toxic alone, over other metals, as one would know with anti-persperants.

[Reunite]

Kudos to your homework Greg. Have you seen this video by Dr David Deak demonstrating his acoustic levitation chamber?

http://www.truveo.com/Acoustic-Levitation-Chamber/id/3273521978

Here is his website
http://www.deakworld.com/

Happy researching

[Vibeguy]

Great thread!
I have been working with a free software called AnalogBox @ andyware.com, I'm designing audio signal sources for Cymatics applications with it.This software is an amazingly powerful sound synthesizer.It consists of drag n' drop modules that you connect to form sound "machines". It occurred to me that since it will accept MIDI signals from a standard music keyboard, the equation builder module (up to 8 variables) could take the keystrokes and convert the note to any imaginable scale, Solfeggio, or whatever.Check out the examples that are called "Jambots" to see what this program can do.It is very compact and efficient, for PC.
Using this has been a revelation for me, I know others into sound healing will create wondrous new sounds with it.

[berathebrain]

Hi Arturo. I was reading that table of yours with frequencies and I have some questions. The ratios of solfegios frequencies are not correct, they are close to the original but not quite there. How did you get those ratios of musical scale?
I mean C# being 15/16 ratio to the original C. I know that 16/15*256=273.067 but where did you get that 16/15? The ratios of C# and A are not of Just Intonation but other ratios are. In Just Intonation C# is 135/128*256=270 and A is 27/16*256=432! And about that 0.9999999999999999999 thing, it's really simple to explain and prove that it is equal to one. See it this way, 1/3=0.333333333333333... 2/3=0.666666666...
1/3+2/3=3/3=1 and also 0.333333...+0.666666...=0.999999... which is equal to one. You have intrigued me with your work so I am starting to research myself.
Thanks for all your work.

[GregorArturo]

Hi Arturo. I was reading that table of yours with frequencies and I have some questions. The ratios of solfegios frequencies are not correct, they are close to the original but not quite there. How did you get those ratios of musical scale?
I mean C# being 15/16 ratio to the original C. I know that 16/15*256=273.067 but where did you get that 16/15? The ratios of C# and A are not of Just Intonation but other ratios are. In Just Intonation C# is 135/128*256=270 and A is 27/16*256=432! And about that 0.9999999999999999999 thing, it's really simple to explain and prove that it is equal to one. See it this way, 1/3=0.333333333333333... 2/3=0.666666666...
1/3+2/3=3/3=1 and also 0.333333...+0.666666...=0.999999... which is equal to one. You have intrigued me with your work so I am starting to research myself.
Thanks for all your work.

Thank you for sharing. This has been the number one problem with conducting this research in terms of what are the correct ratios and scales. There is a lots of varying info out there, and that's why there seems to be no exact perfect scale (even though there is one). I know it is based off primes and ratios, but haven't fully got down what one is what. I have no acoustic theory under my belt and have been teaching myself all of it recently for this. If you have any information to share more on this, it would be greatly appreciated, especially links and documentation. I myself felt confident with the notion that C=256 and A=432 earlier but finding the specific ratios was well a hard one. I was planning to go to a music professor on campus and discuss musical notation with him to figure it out once and for all. Thanks again!

[peterh]

Keep in the mind that Hz is "Cycles per Second", and the problem is, what is second? Second is a Time Measure based on ... Nothing. At least not based on a Universal understanding of geometry resonance and ratios. It is a Human (maybe mason?) made size. Same whit Meter. I research this me self and i font for now no universal geometric based way to find a measure system for Time and Space. So i am interested on everything you find out about this.

This means, we can not use numbers directly as frequencies so long the fundament second and meter is based on arbitrariness.

I think the Solfeggio numbers (... 396, 417, 528 ...) used as a Sound frequency is a misunderstanding (or maybe a manipulation). This numbers are a completely other topic and has nothing to do whit frequencies. The Numbers create a linear system, and not a logarithmic. Just mix all frequencies together, it sounds terrible! I have don this to proof me bad filings against the Solfeggio frequency's as sound. Logarithmic frequencies sounds harmonic, even independent of the Logarithmic base (naturally it is 2, but i test it whit other bases too, for example whit 1.618 and others).

A better understanding of numbers and the frequencies we get be using the visual frequency of Light and the colors, to get a clear sound. I speculate our body resonates by nature whit the universal geometry, and so the colors red yellow green blue violet can be used to find a god base for the right frequencies in sound.

Has somebody good information's for frequencies of all kind in nature, including the colors?
More different frequencies and more exact the better. Thanks.
(i found only a few and imprecise infarctions.)

(if you want a respond on a question, then hurry up, if the forum is only accessible by subscription, i am out.)

[Connecting with Sauce]

Wow what a thread I've been missing out on.

My background is physics BSc and acoustics/vibrations MSc although I seem to be getting brain dead in a large corporation I'm not sure for how much longer :D it is automotive need I say more with the things as they are in the press.

I need to do some research and lots of watching to get myself up to speed but I've read through the whole thread and now intend to watch the links :D

Audio and vibration have been a fascination for me and I look forward to how this thread is progressing. I hope to be up to speed enough to hopefully contribute something meaningful... even if it is only encoragement!

off to link watch :lol3:

ps I remembered there were two things I wanted to add. The Fats Omega 3, 6 and 9 are they linked with these numbers?
pps with regards pyramids and energy there is a book written by Christopher Dunn - http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=giza+power+plant&tag=googhydr-21&index=stripbooks&hvadid=3398315105&ref=pd_sl_r6u60s2ef_b Well worth a read as it talks about the construction and an extremely plausable reason for the pyramids. He goes into the constructions and theory and it all stacks up with physics.
http://www.gizapower.com/

summary: giant mechanical tectonic plate resonators, which amplify microwave energy in a MASER (parallel sided inner box made from microwave transmittable stone (sarcophicus) with concave lenses each outer end to focus it into waveguideshafts, with a Hydrogen filled resonator chamber (resonant frequency of H2) (kings) and gets Hydrogen from the acid/alkaline filled queens chamber below. Book and website are well worth a view / read!!!! I'm sure I've missed a few items there but I read it a year + ago. Basically says the stones were made using stone CNC machines due to tooling marks etc. As an engineer I have to agreed with his reasoning. He also asked stone masons and they said it would be extremely difficult to replicate today.

[Christo888]

Keep in the mind that Hz is "Cycles per Second", and the problem is, what is second? Second is a Time Measure based on ... Nothing. At least not based on a Universal understanding of geometry resonance and ratios. It is a Human (maybe mason?) made size. Same whit Meter. I research this me self and i font for now no universal geometric based way to find a measure system for Time and Space. So i am interested on everything you find out about this.

This means, we can not use numbers directly as frequencies so long the fundament second and meter is based on arbitrariness.

I think the Solfeggio numbers (... 396, 417, 528 ...) used as a Sound frequency is a misunderstanding (or maybe a manipulation). This numbers are a completely other topic and has nothing to do whit frequencies. The Numbers create a linear system, and not a logarithmic. Just mix all frequencies together, it sounds terrible! I have don this to proof me bad filings against the Solfeggio frequency's as sound. Logarithmic frequencies sounds harmonic, even independent of the Logarithmic base (naturally it is 2, but i test it whit other bases too, for example whit 1.618 and others).

A better understanding of numbers and the frequencies we get be using the visual frequency of Light and the colors, to get a clear sound. I speculate our body resonates by nature whit the universal geometry, and so the colors red yellow green blue violet can be used to find a god base for the right frequencies in sound.

Has somebody good information's for frequencies of all kind in nature, including the colors?
More different frequencies and more exact the better. Thanks.
(i found only a few and imprecise infarctions.)

(if you want a respond on a question, then hurry up, if the forum is only accessible by subscription, i am out.)


I do not know if this is relevant in what Gregor has gathered but you mentioned the timing of it all, and a Mayan paper on "Time" someone put together last year described how they viewed time. Simply, the Mayans broke down "Time" based on cycles of 13 in which events occured within, ie, 13 hours, 13 minutes, 13 seconds, 13 'whatever.' They saw Time based on 13.
I know there are endless books and professionals, and experts on the subject but this person took exisitng works pushed them all together and drew a different conclusion. Maybe he is right or is on to something or just another opinion but I thought it was interesting.

Maybe 13 plugs in somewhere? I do not know but I do have the paper if someone is interested.

Besides isn't there really 13 months a year, not 12 (13 full moons) and aren't there really 13 Zodiac signs not 12 (even 'Wikipedia' shows 13 zodiac signs- 88 constellations) and weren't there really 13 disciples total! Just a thought and a different perspective.

[GregorArturo]

Keep in the mind that Hz is "Cycles per Second", and the problem is, what is second? Second is a Time Measure based on ... Nothing. At least not based on a Universal understanding of geometry resonance and ratios. It is a Human (maybe mason?) made size. Same whit Meter. I research this me self and i font for now no universal geometric based way to find a measure system for Time and Space. So i am interested on everything you find out about this.

This means, we can not use numbers directly as frequencies so long the fundament second and meter is based on arbitrariness.

I think the Solfeggio numbers (... 396, 417, 528 ...) used as a Sound frequency is a misunderstanding (or maybe a manipulation). This numbers are a completely other topic and has nothing to do whit frequencies. The Numbers create a linear system, and not a logarithmic. Just mix all frequencies together, it sounds terrible! I have don this to proof me bad filings against the Solfeggio frequency's as sound. Logarithmic frequencies sounds harmonic, even independent of the Logarithmic base (naturally it is 2, but i test it whit other bases too, for example whit 1.618 and others).

A better understanding of numbers and the frequencies we get be using the visual frequency of Light and the colors, to get a clear sound. I speculate our body resonates by nature whit the universal geometry, and so the colors red yellow green blue violet can be used to find a god base for the right frequencies in sound.

Has somebody good information's for frequencies of all kind in nature, including the colors?
More different frequencies and more exact the better. Thanks.
(i found only a few and imprecise infarctions.)

(if you want a respond on a question, then hurry up, if the forum is only accessible by subscription, i am out.)

Excellent point Peter. But let me tell you about a conversation I had with someone in my campus's cafeteria not even ten minutes ago (I love synchronicity lol!). We were talking about remote viewing and from there it hopped into time measurement. I then go to explain that the second is actually is a true measurement, that it is not arbitrary. Our time system stems from the Sumerians over 5,000 years ago, with 60 seconds, 60 minutes, and 24 hours, while our calendar system had indeed changed multiple times (to the point of being entirely flawed).

An experiment was done using sound waves on a water droplet, essentially the acoustic levitation that has already been talking about here in this forum, but the levitation was not the purpose of the experiment. When the water droplet was completely held at a stationary point, it would begin to light as it began to pulse. I do not remember the exact measurement, but the pulses were at a perfect frequency (you could say octave here probably instead) of the second, or I believe one-hundredth of a millisecond).

Also, the sun expands and contracts in size/volume in a perfect rhythm. Even more interesting is that its cycle of expansion and contraction are absolutely perfect, to the millisecond, five minutes.

Oh wait, and it gets better. The only other star we can measure this duration, which I know is the closest star system and I think that is Alpha Centauri B, its duration is perfect, to the millisecond, seven minutes.

Think about it :)

[berathebrain]

I agree with peterh that in order to find the true base frequency we must observe light. But the question is what is true green? I mean, there are many shades of green and people see green in different ways. So what is the frequency of the one and only green? On David Wilcock's site I read that the colors of light are in Diatonic Scale. http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=91&Itemid=36

The logarithmic or equal temperament scale was produced because of key transposing and yet someone still prefers to hear a song written entirely in Diatonic Scale. Maybe if we use 13 note based system and equal temperament we could find some more pleasant music. In that system we would see one semitone as 2^(1/13)=1.054766. So the note C will be C=432*2^(-9/13)=267.3488776.
Here are some links that I have gathered in my research today:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_and_mathematics
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/DanielleDaly.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatonic_scale
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament
http://cnx.org/content/m11639/latest/
http://members.cox.net/mathmistakes/music.htm
http://www.michael.beer.name/research/mathandmusic.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths
http://www.tonalcentre.org/
http://www.terryblackburn.us/music/temperament/index.html

[peterh]

Excellent point Peter. But let me tell you about a conversation I had with someone in my campus's cafeteria not even ten minutes ago (I love synchronicity lol!). We were talking about remote viewing and from there it hopped into time measurement. I then go to explain that the second is actually is a true measurement, that it is not arbitrary. Our time system stems from the Sumerians over 5,000 years ago, with 60 seconds, 60 minutes, and 24 hours, while our calendar system had indeed changed multiple times (to the point of being entirely flawed).

An experiment was done using sound waves on a water droplet, essentially the acoustic levitation that has already been talking about here in this forum, but the levitation was not the purpose of the experiment. When the water droplet was completely held at a stationary point, it would begin to light as it began to pulse. I do not remember the exact measurement, but the pulses were at a perfect frequency (you could say octave here probably instead) of the second, or I believe one-hundredth of a millisecond).

Also, the sun expands and contracts in size/volume in a perfect rhythm. Even more interesting is that its cycle of expansion and contraction are absolutely perfect, to the millisecond, five minutes.

Oh wait, and it gets better. The only other star we can measure this duration, which I know is the closest star system and I think that is Alpha Centauri B, its duration is perfect, to the millisecond, seven minutes.

Think about it :)

This is the point, all of this is depend on other systems and so relative. We use to day atom vibrations, and the stars to break down a time system for as. So it is not really universal, even wen it shows resonance patterns whit the universe geometry i search for.

I expect that occultists had the hands in the measuring system and so there hidden knowledge is in it, so "second" is not totally arbitrariness, but still relative based on systems (stars atoms) and not absolute baset on the universe it self. You can see there the resonance whit the universe geometry i serch to understand better.

...and (berathebrain) "what is true green?" exactly this is one of the problems. And i am not so sure if we and our body resonates more whit the planet and the solar system, then whit the universe is self. And a little shift away from the perfection is a quality of individuality. So we need more then 1 basement and tray to fine a common pattern in many data. It is a question to if we want create for example music for the human resonance of color, or the universal resonance.

What i try to find is to create a geometric way whit the result that light speed becomes a universal factor of 1 (or a geometric constant). (time and space limit in 3D). form light speed 1, everything can by geometrically breached down in to smaller sizes of space and time, and i expect this will fit in in a universal geometric picture, from the galaxies to the Atoms, and the universe is self.
for now i don't have enough data to solve this problem.

[GregorArturo]

This is the point, all of this is depend on other systems and so relative. We use to day atom vibrations, and the stars to break down a time system for as. So it is not really universal, even wen it shows resonance patterns whit the universe geometry i search for.

I expect that occultists had the hands in the measuring system and so there hidden knowledge is in it, so "second" is not totally arbitrariness, but still relative based on systems (stars atoms) and not absolute baset on the universe it self. You can see there the resonance whit the universe geometry i serch to understand better.

...and (berathebrain) "what is true green?" exactly this is one of the problems. And i am not so sure if we and our body resonates more whit the planet and the solar system, then whit the universe is self. And a little shift away from the perfection is a quality of individuality. So we need more then 1 basement and tray to fine a common pattern in many data. It is a question to if we want create for example music for the human resonance of color, or the universal resonance.

What i try to find is to create a geometric way whit the result that light speed becomes a universal factor of 1 (or a geometric constant). (time and space limit in 3D). form light speed 1, everything can by geometrically breached down in to smaller sizes of space and time, and i expect this will fit in in a universal geometric picture, from the galaxies to the Atoms, and the universe is self.
for now i don't have enough data to solve this problem.

That is completely plausible. However, one needs to realize the importance is NOT value, but the ratio between things/objects/instances. The geometric foot is not an arbitrary value in terms of how it relates to other things. However, it is not the value, but the value's relationship to another value.

If you take six out of the number system, it alone has no true purpose, and also the entire [number] system fails. It does not work. 3 plus 3 no longer equals 6. You can only begin to imagine the chaos! This can also me applied metaphysically, in that without you, your being and existence, life ceases to exist!

Anyways, it is the ratios that matter. Harmonics are based on the relationships of prime numbers, not values. I can tell you without a doubt that C is most certainly 256 hz. I am absolutely positive without a doubt on that, in that C is a multiple of 2 (128 hz & 512 hz). Also note, that quartz crystal resonates at a perfect octave of C, or 32768 hz (2^15).

G is also another easily one to verify in that it is a ratio of 3/2, a ratio is primes, and is considered part of the second harmonic beyond the octave of C, also known as the perfect fifth. As far as I know, I am using Just intonation. Equal temperament is used to provide a larger range of frequencies, specifically for an instrument (electronic instrument/electronica this can easily be worked around), that is more linear based versus prime ratio based, however, not as natural.

[Christo888]

If you were to take a paper plate and divide it into 12 equal sections like a pie, of course you would have a continuous circle of 12 sections as if you were to spin it. And starting at a point going around the circle you would end up at the beginning again. Kind of like life I suppose year after year. But if you were to find an opening in that cycle or circle could you step up into another realm perhaps and have new experiences in that new circle of beginning to end and so on. So if waves and frequency’s had new places to go would that ‘allow’ the waves and frequency’s to have a new effect in a new realm, synonymous as the property of Pi (you cannot contain it). Maybe or maybe not be the same wave or frequency but it perhaps found a new arena to experience in and have new effects. Like when we go on vacation we are the same person it’s just that we are visiting a new place and we are adventuresome to discover and explore.

So if you were to take this paper plate that is divided into 12 sections and cut along one of the 12 lines starting from the outside edge and cutting towards the middle and stopping at the center of the pie, then lift one edge up and push the other edge down there is now a new opening into a different realm of experience contained within the circumference of the circle. A 13th space- opening or gateway that is in a vertical position compared to the other 12 sections that are on a horizontal plateau and the path leads up (or down) into that new territory, like a spiral staircase. Mathematics is exact and will always provide an answer but how does one know what to do with the answer they have?

Of course we have all heard of 12 around 1, but what if it is 12 into 1, isn’t that also 13?
Would waves and frequency’s be more effective in a spiral or circular pattern that was modulated in order to hold the pattern, like a tornado or hurricane? Angles are important and have electro-magnetic factoring but isn’t it also true this is about “Circles not Angles” (Thoth) the spiral of life.

[peterh]

That is completely plausible. However, one needs to realize the importance is NOT value, but the ratio between things/objects/instances. The geometric foot is not an arbitrary value in terms of how it relates to other things. However, it is not the value, but the value's relationship to another value.

If you take six out of the number system, it alone has no true purpose, and also the entire [number] system fails. It does not work. 3 plus 3 no longer equals 6. You can only begin to imagine the chaos! This can also me applied metaphysically, in that without you, your being and existence, life ceases to exist!

Anyways, it is the ratios that matter. Harmonics are based on the relationships of prime numbers, not values. I can tell you without a doubt that C is most certainly 256 hz. I am absolutely positive without a doubt on that, in that C is a multiple of 2 (128 hz & 512 hz). Also note, that quartz crystal resonates at a perfect octave of C, or 32768 hz (2^15).

G is also another easily one to verify in that it is a ratio of 3/2, a ratio is primes, and is considered part of the second harmonic beyond the octave of C, also known as the perfect fifth. As far as I know, I am using Just intonation. Equal temperament is used to provide a larger range of frequencies, specifically for an instrument (electronic instrument/electronica this can easily be worked around), that is more linear based versus prime ratio based, however, not as natural.

I believe it is close to 256. The problem is perfectnes, maybe it is 256.001 or 257...

And still, it is based on relative system, not on geometry.

this form the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_oscillator
"For example, a 6 pF 32 kHz crystal has a parallel resonance frequency of 32,768 Hz when a 6.0 pF capacitor is placed across the crystal. Without this capacitance, the resonance frequency is higher than 32,768 Hz."

This crystals are specially made to resonate in this frequency, so it is not a god frame of reference

[GregorArturo]

If you were to take a paper plate and divide it into 12 equal sections like a pie, of course you would have a continuous circle of 12 sections as if you were to spin it. And starting at a point going around the circle you would end up at the beginning again. Kind of like life I suppose year after year. But if you were to find an opening in that cycle or circle could you step up into another realm perhaps and have new experiences in that new circle of beginning to end and so on. So if waves and frequency’s had new places to go would that ‘allow’ the waves and frequency’s to have a new effect in a new realm, synonymous as the property of Pi (you cannot contain it). Maybe or maybe not be the same wave or frequency but it perhaps found a new arena to experience in and have new effects. Like when we go on vacation we are the same person it’s just that we are visiting a new place and we are adventuresome to discover and explore.

So if you were to take this paper plate that is divided into 12 sections and cut along one of the 12 lines starting from the outside edge and cutting towards the middle and stopping at the center of the pie, then lift one edge up and push the other edge down there is now a new opening into a different realm of experience contained within the circumference of the circle. A 13th space- opening or gateway that is in a vertical position compared to the other 12 sections that are on a horizontal plateau and the path leads up (or down) into that new territory, like a spiral staircase. Mathematics is exact and will always provide an answer but how does one know what to do with the answer they have?

Of course we have all heard of 12 around 1, but what if it is 12 into 1, isn’t that also 13?
Would waves and frequency’s be more effective in a spiral or circular pattern that was modulated in order to hold the pattern, like a tornado or hurricane? Angles are important and have electro-magnetic factoring but isn’t it also true this is about “Circles not Angles” (Thoth) the spiral of life.

Yes, this is hopping into more abstract mathematics, quantum theory level type thinking. But yes, I understand your notion the 'new realm' and specifically applying it to 12 around 1. However, who says you an make only one cut, if a cut at all? Because you can have an infinite number of cuts, with an infinite number of 'new realms'.

Also, one needs to understand 12 around 1, and 6 around 1. 7 is the most geometrically stable number in the second dimension involving the points of 6 equilateral triangles together forming a hexagon which then creates 7 vertices in the newly created shape. 13 is the most geometrically stable shape in the third dimension involving the platonic solid of the icosahedron which involves twenty equilateral triangles together connected together [that fit perfectly inside a sphere] where each of the 12 vertices touch the surface of the sphere and each one connects to a central point of the shape (both of them technically) making thirteen vertices or points in total. The traditional view of twelve around one focuses on the notion of 12 points in a circle revolving around one (as it is also a dominant theme in our lives, ie the clock and the zodiac). This doesn't mean that the latter is an interpretation of the former (to simplify into say a two dimensional construct) as the concept is relevant in mathematics and physics. Marko Rodin's toroid is based on a progression of 3,6,9 emitting from a center point in equally distanced directions (spaced 30 degrees).

Six around one
http://education.yahoo.com/homework_help/math_help/solutionimages/minigeogt/8/1/1/minigeogt_8_1_1_15_70/f-590-7-pr-q.gif

Icosahedron
http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/images/Top%20View%20Icosahedron.jpg

Traditional view of twelve around one
http://www.crystalinks.com/amuletcones3.jpg

I have a feeling Christo you may already understand this, but it will help other people get on topic with the discussion.

[hobbit]

GregorArturo,
Great thread, only just noticed it.
I am a dowser, and a very good dowser, thats not arrogance just how it is.
I can measure to perfection the system that allows creation, Yo7u need to mirror that.
It's basically all to fibonacci sequences and measure, or the basic geometric framework is, but it is part of a trinity.
The geometry provides the framework, but the dual spin aether flows about on the framework, always going to points of least resistance and attraction.

Everything that is created on the matrix system becomes haronically tuned and resonates out causing interferance patterns in the flowing aether ( think of the Aztec line creations, they display the interferance patterns, especially the spider which is two inline points one larger than the other)

This is the code that allows STUFF that is contained within DNA mirror faced spirals to escape and coalesce with other similer to form the elements, see walter russell for a bettr picture of that.
Fabulous work, well done.
hobbit

[Christo888]

Gregor awesome tie-in.:thumb_yello: And everyone else's parts too... holy cow. I wonder if 'Ophiuchus' coming up soon folds into this?

[GregorArturo]

If anyone can help with the most appropriate scale it would be greatly appreciated. I am using five-limit just intonation which is based on the primes 2, 3, & 5. My previous scale was most related to "pythagorean tuning" and was based on the primes of 2 & 3 only.

I'm reading through this article at the moment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation

You should take a look at it for yourself if want to gain a more thorough but basic understanding to harmonic theory. Anyways, it seems pythagorean tuning actually used 13 notes! I am not completely positive on this but going to verify it mathematically.

EDIT NOTE: Look at the second/latter Indian scale on the Wiki article. It's based on 22 notes which essentially looks like it merges the notation systems together including all of the ratios! I'm gonna have to play around with this a little.

[Greg10036]

Excellent research. Thank you for sharing this great use of bandwidth. This is the type of thing Avalon is meant to do. Peace.
g.

[Pierrot]

If anyone can help with the most appropriate scale it would be greatly appreciated. I am using five-limit just intonation which is based on the primes 2, 3, & 5. My previous scale was most related to "pythagorean tuning" and was based on the primes of 2 & 3 only.

I'm reading through this article at the moment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation

So much can be said on this topic ;-)

I'd recommend an excellent book of Ron Gorow "Hearing & Writing Music" - "The natural harmonic curve is evident in shells and even the cochlea of the ear. It is a proportion of innate aesthetic beauty, present in many forms of art from antiquity to the present.(...) Harmonic rhtyhm has been revealed in the periodic table of elements and intervals of electron shells within an atom - the very essence of matter and energy. All things in our physical world, from the subatomic to the cosmic, reflect or produce a rhythm of harmonic proportion. That includes every musical tone."

In order to understand what's a musical tone have a look at the Harmonics Series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music) This gives us the harmonics produced when a string vibrates, or when wind blows in a cave, etc. The Sound of Nature.

Some observations - the 2d Octave gives us the Fundamental Note-its perfect Fifth-its Octave, like in C G C (called also a "Power Chord", as used by Heavy/Metal bands, with impingement, lol) This sequence, 1 and its 5th, repeated, leads us into the Cycle of Fifths. Little note - from C to G we have a Fifth, from G to C a Fourth. But piling up Fifths gives us C-G, G-D.... and that D, being above C, gives us the One Tone interval "C to D", and dividing one octave by that one whole-tone interval we get the 12-tone scale. Btw - Ron Gorow again: "The natural scale is ideal for music that stays on one tonality (Eastern-type music). However, the beautiful proportional curve of the harmonic series refused to fit the linear system of 12 keys. (...) Pythagoras knew that the system was not mathematically perfect: 12 fifths are slightly larger (sharper) than 7 octaves". - would that account for the fact the Universe is always expanding? lol.

Back to the Harmonics Series - in the 3rd octave we find a Bb, 7th harmonic. Probably to balance out the D, 9th harmonic, Bb and D being one whole step below/above the C 8th harmonic. Nature's symmetry...

The 4th Octave gives us a sequence which approximates the Overtone Scale (also known as Lydian b7 mode, Lydian= 4th degree of a scale, b7 as the sequence is derived from the Melodic Minor Scale) Anyway - the important thing, when you look at the chapter "Harmonics and tuning" on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music) you'll notice the 10th, 11th and 14th harmonics are slightly below the notes from the equal-tempered scale. In C we would have C, ~Eb, ~Gb, ~Bb, C - which are actually the Blue Notes played in Blues. On a guitar one has to bend those notes for approximation to produce that peculiar feeling of Blues. One could also say the Octave is divided in 5 notes instead of 12, which gives notes off the equal-tempered scale. Rejecting the 12-tone equal temperement while working in the cotton fields - That freedom when playing Blues :-)))

http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-harmonics.htm gives a calculator to find out harmonics, might be of help. And http://www.kylegann.com/Octave.html "Anatomy of an Octave" might be also of interest, many Mathematicians tampered with the problem at hand.

I like this thread, although mainly from the Musical perspective, but not limited to that. From Ron Gorow's book again: "(...) All objects and sounds that we are able to perceive with eyes and ears come to us in the form of waves of energy. (...) The difference between something we see and something we hear is merely a difference in frequency (...) Human perception of pitch spans from approximatively 20 Hz (Hertz or cycles per second) to 38.000 Hz (...) Below the range of human audibility, the earth vibrates at approximatively 8 Hz (the Schumann resonance) Perhaps not coincidentally, the human body in a relaxed state resonates at the same frequency, as do alpha brain waves (...) Our most intimate measurement of rhythm, the human heart, may beat less than 1Hz at rest (...) Descending the scale, frequencies become cyclic events: minutes, hours, days, years, centuries - all periodic rhythms, the stuff sound is made of. The cyclical events of nature - biological, geological, stellar - may be measured against a time continuum."

One can thus plot those waves of energy on scales, be it for colors, emotions, attitudes, .... any expression of Life, actually.

Rhythm and the pulse of the Universe, as expressed via Music. Rhythm again that enables us to tune into each other's pulse and Universe, and thus share the Present Time moment, otherwise impossible. But that would be another subject, lol!


EDIT NOTE: Look at the second/latter Indian scale on the Wiki article. It's based on 22 notes which essentially looks like it merges the notation systems together including all of the ratios! I'm gonna have to play around with this a little.

I love Indian Music! Very pertaining to the subject of this thread. In Indian tradition sound is God - Nada Brahma. The musician hits the chakras, awakens the kundalini, matching the being's inner sound.

Ravi Shankar in "My Music, My Life" writes about Masters of Indian music that could set fire, levitate, make flowers blossom by playing music only - Indian tradition.

Pierrot

[berathebrain]

Hey everybody! Check this one out http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala
This is very powerful program for manipulating and creating your own scales, and it's totally free! Not only that, it can play midi files in whatever scale you like. See site for complete description of the program. I believe this program could help with someone's research with scales and music in general.

[Christo888]

Quoted from "Pierrot"... the earth vibrates at approximatively 8 Hz (the Schumann resonance) Perhaps not coincidentally, the human body in a relaxed state resonates at the same frequency, as do alpha brain waves



Waves and frequency are infinitely created and calculations will go on forever to track them. Earth's magnetic field came into existence over time out of a reaction. Adolf tried to seize literally what Buddha became, same goal, two paths, one symbol. Steal the Spear of Destiny and rule the world?

Reminds me of a great song... "8 days a week I luuuuvvvve you..."

[whalerider]

Thanks guys for the support! Anyways, here's a simplified view of how the wave would look (Wavelength of C is 1 unit essentially, while G is 1.5 units). Ain't it pretty!

http://www.code144.com/forum/download/file.php?id=156

Has anyone else noticed that these wave circles look exactly like the symbol for CBS on tv? Perhaps the PTB understand this wave and are using it in advertising, etc. Oh, if we only understood all of the symbology right under our noses...

[shaundelear]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIRX2KEyXQc

This machine using notes and fields embodies this thread.

[alchemikey]

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/eastfield4/EFCentre3.jpg

those wave circles reminded me of the center of this crop circle

peace,
mikey

[alchemikey]

Quote:
Originally Posted by herbivore View Post
he says the 3 and 6 oscillate (light and dark/good and evil) and that the 9 is invisible. 3, 6, and 9 make a triangle (pyramid) with 9 at the top (all seeing eye).

has anyone else put these two together?

That's exactly right. I will justify as being an amateur mathematician, and physicist (as I have been nationally recognized for my work and well respected at my university) that Marko Rodin's work is undeniable and is literally one of the foundational understandings to how one begins to comprehend this reality and existence, the all that is.

Also, in the Emerald Tablets, Thoth says the 'Nine forms out of the formless'. Think about that one.

9=9
18=1+8=9
27=2+7=9
..... And so on for infinity. The omnipotent nine!

And yes, you are just one of many putting two and two together. Synchronisitic thinking is so absolutely beautiful.

hey greg and all...here is some more info on the nines, be sure to read the 3 articles on the right

http://treeincarnation.com/articles/Structure-of-Number.htm

peace,
mikey

[davefla73]

Anyone have any ideas on how he moved and shaped the blocks? I read that his father was a stone MASON , maybe they passed on the secret, but died with him :<

[davefla73]

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/eastfield4/EFCentre3.jpg

those wave circles reminded me of the center of this crop circle

peace,
mikey

That crop circle reminds me of patrick from spongebob lol. sorry i had to
:lol3:

[GregorArturo]

Anyone have any ideas on how he moved and shaped the blocks? I read that his father was a stone MASON , maybe they passed on the secret, but died with him :<

Well, I am theorizing that using the natural resonance frequency you can make the stones vibrate. However, lower frequencies are probably more effective, in terms of an octave of the resonance, cause thats how glass technically breaks from an opera singer, its a high pitch in the octave of C, and the closer you get to 32768 hz the more likely it will break when it is an octave of C, as glass is made out of silica, or the base level of quartz.

Now playing that frequency while chiseling, might make chiseling go much much faster, as the rock is vibrating and it is easier to break it. Another thing I know, if you put an electric current through the chisel or drill, it will actually cut faster, up to twice as fast I know. So maybe a chisel hooked up to a Baghdad battery while singing songs in specific notes or hitting gongs, bells, playing horns... I believe would dramatically speed up cutting the stone and extending the use out of the chisel.

Also, this I believe is related to how they turned limestone into dust through these frequencies, then cement it together some how in a mold, to make the outer white casing to the pyramids (as human hairs have been found inside them, but I have yet heard of any carbon dating from it, go figure).

[alchemikey]

"If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe." tesla

is this the key tesla was referring to?

fibonacci sequence starting with (3,6,9,15,24,39,63,102)(165,267,432,699,1131,1830, 2961,4791)(7752...

indig values = (3,6,9,6,6,3,9,3)(3,6,9,6,6,3,9,3)(3...

creates a repeating octave...i dont really know what this means?

peace,
mikey

[GregorArturo]

"If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe." tesla

is this the key tesla was referring to?

fibonacci sequence starting with (3,6,9,15,24,39,63,102)(165,267,432,699,1131,1830, 2961,4791)(7752...

indig values = (3,6,9,6,6,3,9,3)(3,6,9,6,6,3,9,3)(3...

creates a repeating octave...i dont really know what this means?

peace,
mikey

Yes, it is the key Tesla was referring to. Essentially 3, 6, and 9 are at the heart of a vortex and how it is formed. They represent the trinity, the father, son, and holy ghost, the celtic triad. The most basic way to generate a vortex is by a triangle, or technically an inverted triangle, in which you have three lines coming together at one point with 120 deg angles between each one. That is why carbon based life (organic materials in orgonite), honey bee combs (hexagonal pattern), all generate torsion fields as that little shape induces a vortex naturally. The most efficient material I believe for generating torsion fields actually is diamond, being a perfect carbon structure. Diamond actually forms naturally as a rough octahedron (double pyramid). Quartz crystal, and even graphite are great too.

Anyways, I don't understand your jargon. I do not know where you got those patterns from exactly. The pattern I am familiar with is 3,3,9,6,6,9... repeating thereafter. As far as I can see it is not related to the fibonacci sequence (which is 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21...) but then again all mathematics is related. What do you mean by indig value?

[alchemikey]

hey greg...the fibonacci sequence can be started with any two numbers that are double each other for the pattern will always share the same relationship

0,1,1,2,3,5,8
0,2,2,4,6,10,16
0,3,3,6,9,15,24

each of these will approach phi the same

"R.B.Fuller coined the term indig (meaning integrated digits) as a shorthand for what is known in mathematics as 'casting out nines'. It is simply the reduction of multiple digits to a single digit through addition"

i believe this is what you are calling quantum numbers...i just reduced the digits from doing the fib sequence and this pattern showed up which repeats every 9 digits...it even ends and begins with the same digit like an apha and omega

i got the idea to do this from the article i posted above at treeincarnation.com called shape and number

peace,
mikey

[Flying Pyramid]

Hello,
just to a little more to this work in progress:
Now add pi. 3.14-
Pi represents 3 dementional space in a physical reality.
Hieght, length, width and sometimes even weight are all represented by pi. When figuring or configureing mathmatical music notes, remeber that they are resonating and effecting matter in a 3D physical space.

What if music notes, light waves, physical matter of different properties & energy (love for example) were nobs on a switchboard that could be tuned in frequency together toward a particular means. Then what?

Research people who have fasted.
And what about "The Voice Of God"?

Your closeing in on something very powerfull Gregor. :)

[GregorArturo]

Thanks Mikey. That makes a ton of sense, and got my brain thinking in another direction. And yes, indig and quantum numbers are the same, except it seems instead of a nine, they're using a zero? Anyways, zero is technically not a number, but the absence of numbers, or in the metaphysical sense it represents balance and harmony. They also refer to quantum numerology as decimal parity, or MOD 9 (the remainder from a divsisor, that being nine). In essence, just continue to add all the digits until you get to a single digit, that being one through nine.

Thanks Scott. I remember Marko Rodin saying something that pi actually isn't the irrational number we all think it is but a perfect constant, which really intrigues me. It connects me with the idea of space being curved, and Einstein saying in reference to reincarnation, "If you continue to draw a line, you will eventually come back to the beginning again."

So as you are implying, to fully comprehend it, we have to really think outside of the box, outside of third dimensional thinking.

And to response to, "Then what?" Well, it's already here in my opinion. Turn on some Mozart, listening to the trees in the wind, or even your own breath. I think the noise is full of much more than we can possibly believe. However, when you get all of those into a switchboard, that's where music comes alive, the basic pattern to life, as it all started with primes and their ratios.

[AmericanPhi]

Hi, Greg!

Great work you're doing! I found this forum the other day while doing some of my own research on the subject you're addressing, albeit you're way more adept than I. As for me, I'm a musician who has had a "feeling" all my life . . . a sense, if you will, of everything you're talking about and researching.

What led me to this forum was a google search I did on Pi and Phi and found your entries. I did so after listening at great length to some audios from a very brilliant man who passed away December 9 last year. His name is Fr. Charles Moore. Here is the link to his audios. I purchased his book as well and have read it. Is audios may enhance your work and research.

Blessings to you, Greg! Keep searching!

http://www.beyondtheordinary.net/fathercharlie.shtml

[AmericanPhi]

Greg,

What do you think of this?

http://www.rahul.net/raithel/otfw/hydrogens.html?31,43

[Dakini]

Fascinating thread! I have done multi-dimensional healing sessions with people in which I layered frequencies with quartz, Tibetan bowls, vibrational essences, and my voice harmonics and have seen unbelievable things at times. Thanks for this work.
Dakini