2008 - 2012: detailed description of what will happens - a Scenario

[corvo]

INTRODUCTION
Dear fellows of this forum,
It is difficult for me to write those words.
I think the moment to send alarms is already gone, and by doing in Internet, on public forums, you simply expose yourself to great security risks. On the other side I appreciate a lot the courage of the initiators of this project and so I will take my part of risk.
Finally being in a FEMA camp with Bill Ryan could be funny.

A lot of people ask himself what will EXACTLY happens in the next couple of years.
This post is to describe (in a short way) the sequence of the facts that will change our reality.

The following scenario is what I have extracted from all the information I collected in the past 20 years from various sources. This include economical analysis, insiders information, time travelers, Spiritual beings, prophecies, and rest of old cultures.

MODELS AND METAMODELS
So far so good, this is what everybody does: collect information from a lot of sources.
Why I'm boring you?
In fact the issue, as reported by many truth seekers is that everybody see only a part of the big picture, while this is very hard to understand how to connect the dot.

All of the information you can collect from a single source (should) follows a certain logic, that you can abstract in a Model.
A model is in fact an abstraction of phenomena.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=40&pictureid=196

The point is that the nature of models, as a truth bringer, tends to negate any other reality that is external to them.
It is a part of the “New Age” thinking to declare that all philosophies are connected, that the reality self is high connected. But HOW exactly this works is unclear.
Most of newager mix existing knowledge in new one, trying more to build new models that to understand each one comparing them.

What I did, together with the other members of my group, is to use a MetaModel to keep a coherent image. A Metamodel describes the elements that you use for describe the model. A MetaMetaModel describes the elements of the Metamodel and so on.

Meta-models are closely related to ontologies. Both are often used to describe and analyze the relations between concepts [Söderström2002].
Ontologies express something meaningful within a specified universe or domain of discourse by utilizing a grammar for using vocabulary. The grammar specifies what it means to be a well-formed statement, assertion, query, etc. (formal constraints) on how terms in the ontology’s controlled vocabulary can be used together. [Metamodel-b]
Meta-modeling can be considered as an explicit description (constructs and rules) of how a domain-specific model is built. In particular, this comprises a formalized specification of the domain-specific notations. Typically, metamodels are – and always should follow - a strict rule set. [Metamodel-a].
“A valid metamodel is an ontology, but not all ontology are modeled explicitly as metamodels”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamodeling#Definition

bold mine.

To pass from a disconnected view to a harmonically shaped vision we use the “Honor Formula“ that can link events, fact and person without relation.
If you want to check what is fitting in the big picture and what is wrong you can use the constrains.
Metamodels describes near the relations between model element also the constrains necessary to maintains the model consistence. So before you can translate from A to B you check if you can really put an information on a superior level.
From an Philosophical point of view this Formula consists in “Reducing the complexity to the unity” while the opposite one, what we call the “Formula of the Hart” aims to “Expand the being in the complexity”.
The 2 formulas represent the “vertical dialectic“ of the Tree of Life.
This describes a non dualistic system able to produce complex manifestations.
Non dualism mean that all is One. Don't exist a ontological separation between ice and water, matter and energy or Spirit and Body.
The difference is committed to the actual STATE.

QBL
Tree of Life sounds to QBL (Cabala, Cabalah, Cabbala, Cabbalah, Kabala, Kabalah, Kabbala, Qabala, Qabalah, Kaballah ).
In fact we use QBL but before you start to yell and run, beware that this is as Paradigm, not as dogma.
Let me explain the difference.

The dogma (the plural is dogmas either dogmata) is a “doctrine” either sideboard retained from a religion and/or from whatever type of organization “authoritative” like obvious in self. It experiences, the analysis, either the make established are able or cannot be produced, to second of the use.

The paradigm, instead, derives from the Greek paradeigma that means “model” (or «project» or in our case Metamodel) and “example”.
In Plato it is found used in both the meanings.

1. The ideas are in fact models or you finish of absolute comparison,
knowing which is possible to decide if something is or does not be similar to are:
for example knowing what is the sanctity, judges of an action if is or does not be holy
(Eutifrone 6e)

2. The sensitive things are copies of the intelligible models and the cosmos bred is produced from the divine demiurge to imitation of a paradigm In himself
(Timeo 28a to the.)

QBL sound also to Hebrews that are the Illuminate that are the controllers that are the....
I have nothing to do with them.
What I can tell you that they are using very powerful tools in a total perverse way.
Don't blame the tool, blame the intention.

TIME LINES, FREE WILL AND DESTINY
So having all the facts in a model that is coherent, I can tell you a forecast of the next 4 years with a good percent of success.
The open question is if is possible at all to see the future.
Is future predetermined?

A couple of words about time lines, free will and destiny.
You know for sure the film “super man”, with the part of the train thats run in direction of a broken line and how super man save the train by stopping it.
If you remember couple of high school basic physic you will understand that this is impossible.
To stop the train you require a quantity of energy equal to the train self. Additionally you require to apply this energy in a sweet way, because finally you want to SAVE, no to destroy it.
In a sweet way means”time”.
So only if the event is “distant enough” and you have enough energy you could stop the train.
Really you will not stop it, but simply avoid it, going to a new probability line.

You CANNOT stop NOR change the existence of events that are near in the time line with good will and/or prayer, but you can mitigate the negative effects.

An historical example.
2003, worldwide 100 million people rally against a possible Iraq war and for peace.
Huge energy was addressed in direction of peace and change.
This was the bigger historical coordinate effort in this sense.
We all know the result.

The Destiny Rule says: you cannot completely avoid big events that are very near to your temporal line. The best you can do is to mitigate some effects.

Changing long term stuff is much more easy, but its require the pre knowledge of what you want to change.

Interesting to notice is also that (real) prophecies related to an event become more frequent, more the event is close [see Prophezeihungen zur Zukunft Europas und reale Ereignisse, page 36].
A “very close event” already exist already in potency the region near to our “common reality” (Briah) and expect only to “materialize” (Assiah) himself.

DEUX EX MACHINA
The prediction belows is very probable (80%) but could be invelidated by the improvise divine intervention of “all most divine power”.
Nevertheless we should not have big hopes on this because of the Destiny Rule described above.
If they are so intelligent, they know that a early intervention is much more effective that a last moment action.
Last moment rescues, spectacular visual events are good for Hollywood films.
So, just in case, a goodness come out of a shining machine, look behind for the trick and not the her naked legs.

THE BACKGROUND:
Now we come to the prediction part.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=40&pictureid=194
Everything is cyclical on the life. Our planet, as part of the solar system, is taking part on many of those cycles. This includes the solar year (365 days), the Solar Great Year (25 920 Years) and the Galactic year (25 Millions of years). The solar great year has also an ascending and a descending cycle that mimic a cosmical breath and or the dialectic between Being and Material we discussed above.

In 2012 we will have a very special moment in which the humanity will exit from the Kali Yuga (a.k.a. Iron Age in the west), the Fish Age will finish, and the Mayan Long count will also terminate.

Notice in the attached image that such a configuration happens only one time every 25.000 years. On the other side 2012 is only a number that point out to the end of a transition period that is already running.
21 12 2012 is not an event but an indicator of a transition process that will have his summit on this date.
After 14500 year of Night the Light begins to show his real power.

NOTE
The real great winter Solstice was around 3000 years ago in the age of Aries.


THE NEXT 4 YEARS: 2008 -2012
In the next 4 years we will be witness of changes that includes political, environmental and cosmical matter.
How can an politics being connected with Cosmical phenomenas?
As the astrology teach, our human behavior is influenced by the actual position of the earth in the cosmos.
On the other side the astrology as-we-know calculate the situation of the solar system only, for this reason is always aware of other influences.

UNITED STATES
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=40&pictureid=187
The United State big finance will crash this year (2008).
The “2008 October surprise” will try to hide it.
The intention of the administration is to declare the martial law.
To justify this they require a severe aggression to America from the outside (the Aliens, Iran).

The American will be shocked, but not so much as in the past.
Remember, you know it.
So the resistance will immediately start to organize itself. In fact all the members of this forum (a part the guys that are here professionally, hello Guys!) are all candidate for a “resistance” and to be hosted by a FEMA camp.

Also if lot of people will be deported to the camps, this will be not enough to completely stop the dissent, especially while the life become more harsh. A deep economical crisis is already there, today (September 2008) but from 2009 a real Depression will hit all the world.
The conditions of the Americans will become more and more miserable. The elite will try primarily to keep the cities calm. In fact it is easy to control a couple of cities that 1000 of small communities. This will generate a social shift: progressive people will move on the countryside while conservative will remain in the city.
On the countryside people will continue to organize themselves and become more and more independent from the central government a.k.a. the cities.
End 2011: the Central government try to reestablish his control on the countryside, but tot all the US army will automatically be on his side. This will begins the Second American Civil War.

EUROPE
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=40&pictureid=186
In the next 3 years the European social network will manage to distribute the economics crise more equally that in the US. On the other side the people will feel no more represented by traditional political party and will give again power to both extreme left and right political wings.
The “Official politics” will declare those movement out of law and start an internal repression, but not so hard and in big scale as in the US.
At the end the “extremist” will decide to handle also in Europe, following the example of the American rebels.
In France and Italy an insurrection driven by them explode on the roads in the Spring 2012.
So in this spring both Europe and US are in a chaotic situation, Russia decides to profit of the NATO weakness by invading Europe (summer 2012).
The Russian's armored divisions attacks with 3 armies north, central and south Europe.
In a couple of days they arrive until the Rhine in Germany. Here they are stopped by the joined European forces.
A huge, furious battle take place in Germany in 2 places:
the city of Münster and the Rhine river.
The Russian are defeated and weak, fearing that the US City government could support the Europeans, they close an alliance with the Country Rebels and begins to launch small missiles on the American Cities.
Remember: the goal is not to destroy America but to help an ally.

2012 WORLDWIDE
Now we enter in the region “I cannot believe it”
While all the above is happens (autumn 2012) a new star will be visible in the sky.
This will become everyday bigger until it is as the dimension of the moon.

[Note: The first that spoke about the star was Hepidanus Von St. Gallen (1081). So I wonder if the Vatican begans the disinformation already on this time Michael ;-) ]

The combined action of this celestial body and the sun cycle maximum activity (The sun will reverse its own magnetic poles during 2012 as result of reaching the end of the current 11-year sunspot cycle). will accelerate the process of Geomagnetic reversal and Pole Shift (not pole reversal).
The planet will stop to rotate and shift his north pole.

The so-called “3 days of darkness” will begins during the night of the 20 December 2012 and will continues for 72 Hours interesting Europe, Africa, the middle East and Asia until India (see image).
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=40&pictureid=188

During this period huge earthquakes (and tsunami) will destroy the west coast of North America and the east region across the Mississippi.
Also the region of the great lakes will go down.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=40&pictureid=190

In Europe the UK will be completely destroyed by the Tsunami. Denmark, Holland, Belgium and Island will be almost destroyed.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=40&pictureid=191

Japan will be hit by the pacific big one.

Terrible things will happens during the 3 days that could drive crazy who don't has a strong spiritual life. So the inner preparation is so important has the physical one.

After 3 days the rotation will restart but on the opposite direction so that the sun will rise to the west.

CONCLUSION

For sure you have recognized some events, maybe all of them. My intention was not to be original but to describe a methodology to handle knowledge and a scenario.

You are free to take the above scenario as pure BS or to completely believe on it.
As far I know this is a very probable scenario. The events that are more close temporarily are also more probable.
I'm not interested to discuss the scenario itself but much more in finding practical and spiritual ways to let the best part of the Human kind survive to it.
The bad guys are already prepared.

[roy bodien]

Very Interesting Corvo!

I'm new to this blogging stuff on the internet and just recently sent the following to other areas, but no response really from anyone regarding this gentleman by the name of Patrick Geryl who is a Belgium author.

Sounds like his veiw is the same as you!

Do you agree with his save places also (South Africa, Morrocco, {Spain but worried about nuclear fall out})

Regards,
Roy

Re: Ecuador farm sanctuary

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Kerry and Bill I posted this on the Ground Crew earlier and emailed you couple of days ago...about interviewing Patrick Geryl. Thanks, Roy

Hello Conde and fellow Ground Crew!

I have been visiting Project Camelot many times and listened to alot of the interviews, purchased books, downloads etc.

I have read Edgar Cayce books and others books 30 to 35 years ago. Kari and Bill has certainly given us a lot of wonderful information as well as George Green.

No doubt there is turbulence slated for 2012 and trying to find a "safe place" is my objective for the future of mankind.

I have emailed Bill and Kerry about interviewing this gentleman as some of the information make conflict with being in Ecuador.

Patrick Geryl, I think, goes about it more scientificly, but I would like to have feed back of what others think and if his information is viable?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n37OT...eature=related

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_night/home.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_Seven_Summits
Ecuador is part of a Pacific Ring of volcanoes named "Ring of Fire"
The type of volcanoes found are high and steep-sided stratovolcanoes, which are known to have sudden and violent eruptions with longer periods of dormancy.

By Quito highest volcano in the world, the Cotopaxi.

Trying to make a logicial move and will be open to others view and ideas.

Regards,

Roy

[RubyTuesday]

Thank you for taking the time to put all of that together. No matter what happens, our near future is sure to be quite exciting! :wub2:

[QUESTINY]

From December 21st to the 23rd of 2012, our sun will be crossing the galactic equator of the Milky Way Galaxy for the first time in 5,125 years. Our planet's position during these 3 days will be right in the middle of the Mayan's "dark rift", which contain the magnetic axis of the supermassive spinning black hole located in the center of our Galaxy.

Prophecy says that in the End Times the Earth will be darkened by a great cloud. These clouds are the dark nonluminous dust clouds called dark nebulae located in the "dark rift" known to the Mayan and the ancient world as the "cosmic sea". The light of the moon, sun or stars will not be able to penetrate the dark nebulae for three days and nights in fulfillment of Zechariah 14:6-7: "it shall be in that day that there shall not be light, the glorious ones will wane." The glorious ones are the stars. "All the light in the sky will appear to go out." The Sixth Seal of Revelation will be opened prior to Earth' entry in the the "dark rift." As our planet starts to make the transit it will immediately start shaking and trembling from the energy. Earth's back and forth motion is recorded in Isiah24:20 Shaking movements of the planet will cause the stars to appear to fall. Revelation 6:12-17 and Doctrine and Covenants 88:87 both describe the opening of the Sixth Seal with a great earthquake where the mountains and islands are moved. then the Earth is "enveloped into darkness, black as sackcloth as the heavenly luminaries fade."

The black, interstellar nebulae located in the "dark rift" will make the moon appear to turn red as blood in color before its light is completely blocked by the nebulae. The planet will experience a rough ride for 72 hours in complete darkness. Perhaps this is why the "dark rift" is called the "cosmic sea", because all things in this area ride rough blasts of energy much like a ship rides rough waves in a storm. In addition, the black hole also creates transdimensional portals as foretold by Burisch and Deacon due to the massive amounts of energy created by the spinning black hole in the center of our Galaxy. This transit through the dark rift was foretold to be a cataclysmic as the world would be destroyed by earthquakes with few survivors.

This cataclysmic belief was held by most of the ancient world . In the Americas, the Mayans and Aztecs believed that this World Sun (5th Age) would be destroyed by earthquakes. Plato referred to a cycle of catastrophe at the End of the Age. John recorded the cataclysm event in Revelation, as did the prophet Joseph Smith in Doctrine and Covenants. The Old Testament prophet Isiah 24:20 and Haggai in 2:6. If mountains and islands are moved, it will be caused by the tectonic plate movement from the shaking of hte planet. "The oceans and seas will begin to heave themselves" out of bounds, further flooding already flooded coastal areas and cities. High winds, raging electrical storms, and torrential rainfall will accompany the extreme moving and shaking of the seas. Coastal cities around the world will be flooded. Panic will ensue as the unprepared citizens of this planet will realize the full, dire gravity of the situation and feel the helplessness of impeding doom (Doctrine and Covenants 8:90-91).

[QUESTINY]

Ok if you made it through this reading to this part there is something that can be done to minimize and even avoid this dire prophecy. What is not told to well or clear in our beloved religious books is that the reason catastrophe happens is because the Earth's frequency is out of balance with the naturally occurring event. Human consciousness plays a very active role in the health and balance of the planet. If we can shift our focus and consciousness to be in HARMONY!!!! with the Earth the Earth will move through these events will little to no problems. We must work within the frequency and energy provided by our planet and the Universe to make this transition an easy and enlightened one. We are at a crossroads where we can choose to raise our frequency to a higher dimension, stay at the same level of consciousnesses or move one step lower in dimension. Some will move higher, some stay the same and some will take a step down. There are an infinite amount of timelines and possibilities. You have the power to chose your Destiny.

[corvo]

You have the power to chose your Destiny.
I disagree with this.
This is only true to specific conditions.
As I stated above you can only choice a time line when this is not yet consolidated.
The example of the 2003 peace movement is a significant and measurable one in this sense.
If 100.000.000 people hit the road together they represent a tremendous amount of positive energy, do you agree?
If in this case we don't managed to stop a war, that is a small event, how do you imagine that we can change one of a cosmical proportion?

[yettyn]

Corvo, thanks for this excellent prediction, I must say that of everything I have come across online your view is what makes most sense to me. It might help that I since many years are familiar with the art of astrology and kabala/tarot and this will certainly inspire to deepening my own research. It will be very interesting to follow the development...

Ok if you made it through this reading to this part there is something that can be done to minimize and even avoid this dire prophecy. What is not told to well or clear in our beloved religious books is that the reason catastrophe happens is because the Earth's frequency is out of balance with the naturally occurring event. Human consciousness plays a very active role in the health and balance of the planet. If we can shift our focus and consciousness to be in HARMONY!!!! with the Earth the Earth will move through these events will little to no problems. We must work within the frequency and energy provided by our planet and the Universe to make this transition an easy and enlightened one. We are at a crossroads where we can choose to raise our frequency to a higher dimension, stay at the same level of consciousnesses or move one step lower in dimension. Some will move higher, some stay the same and some will take a step down. There are an infinite amount of timelines and possibilities. You have the power to chose your Destiny.

Although I in essence agree with you I think, unfortunately, it's a bit late for the majority of the earths population. With that I don't mean we shouldn't try to follow your directions, but at the same time we also need to realize that we cannot really "save" the ones that for various reasons refuses to open their minds. At best I think we can contribute to make the ride a bit smoother, but it will still be a stormy sea to cross. We shouldn't really have any illusions about that. Like you cannot live just out of pure love, but it will help a lot to digest and enrich the food you need.

[yettyn]

You have the power to chose your Destiny.
I disagree with this.
This is only true to specific conditions.
As I stated above you can only choice a time line when this is not yet consolidated.
The example of the 2003 peace movement is a significant and measurable one in this sense.
If 100.000.000 people hit the road together they represent a tremendous amount of positive energy, do you agree?
If in this case we don't managed to stop a war, that is a small event, how do you imagine that we can change one of a cosmical proportion?
I would put it this way; You have the power of free will but due to being a part of a bigger whole, your options are often limited. I think this is one of the keys about Astrology that not even many astrologers get - it's all about your power of free will and a teaching plan to make the best out of it (on the personal level). You certainly do create your own destiny, but as you say corvo it comes with certain conditions.

[StClair]

Hi Corvo

you asked me to comment on it - and so I had to read it which took a while.

Look I think I made my position clear in my book LIGHT-SEEDS and so this is my comment. I do not see Russia invading Europe, unless of course EU feels obliged to mess around in Russia. I hope this will not happen and than sane minds will prevail. The water events you describe are interesting. We shall see while we prepare...

Most importantly see this comment here which is general to all of this subject:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2162&postcount=14

M StC.

[Love/Light 13]

I believe, as do "professionals" such as Dan Burisch and David Wilcock, that the pole shift scenario mapped out in Timeline 2 has been adverted. While I do believe some physical earth changes will be necessary during this time of transition, global catastrophe is no longer a possibility. I believe many people are secretly praying for the catastrophic scenario because they are not yet ready to do the inner work necessary to continue on their journey on the earth plane. The idea of worldwide calamity offers these souls an escape from the time-consuming, emotional reality of spiritual and physical evolution.

[Flashback]

I believe many people are secretly praying for the catastrophic scenario because they are not yet ready to do the inner work necessary to continue on their journey on the earth plane. The idea of worldwide calamity offers these souls an escape from the time-consuming, emotional reality of spiritual and physical evolution.

I disagree completely. The average person who go's about there day doesnt even know sites like this exist. They are not aware of inpending problems. I would say this is the majority of people in the western world. I dont think people are secretly praying for such catastophies. I think religious people may expect certain biblical catastrophies to be a possibility for the future.

I would say im an average person but one thats aware more and more all the time. Most of us are good people, its just a few (our leaders) that are evil and it is these people that are probably praying for their games to play out.

If we stick together and try to deflect as much negative energy as possible our destinies will be fulfilled.

[Stephen]

If we stick together and try to deflect as much negative energy as possible our destinies will be fulfilled.
Good point!

And how do we do just that?
Simple.
We learn to LOVE one another. In the VERB sense of that term. It takes Work/Action.
We also learn to FORGIVE one another.
Finally, We learn to GIVE to one another.

It is the litlte things in life that add up. I know that is cliche but it is true.

[Thunderbird]

heres a thought.

the body of a human being is really just an agreement of BILLIONS of cells to work in relative harmony, each working to its own end within the "body."

a cancer is really just a rogue cabal of cells working towards its own end WITHOUT taking into account the the "body" as it were, replicating their fractally ideology (or modus operandi) and trying to make reality their construct.

resonant to our world scenario yes?

i have bore witness to various remissions in cancer where the collective intelligence of the host body (ie. the personality of the being) indicated that they convinced (or the medicine man convinced) the erroneous and felonious cells that they would in fact cease to be at all if they continued acting so inharmoniously. they further convinced the rogue cells that they would be happier and more powerful if they were to "get back in harmony."

for the first time since i was a child (and was visited by what i call my guardian angel and bore witness to the calamitous events in a terrifying vision that are currently befalling our fun little sphere ), i actually have hope.

what i saw at the tender age of 11 (that made me cry myself into an exhausted sleep) was tantamount to Armageddon. i was shown my purpose in this world and i agreed to my mission. (I have had a "go bag" in my closet since then.) when the things i was shown actually started coming true. i really began getting scared.

things have changed from what i was shown. Not significantly mind you, but enough that i am actually convinced that the gravitational trajectory of our time line has diverted by a few degrees to avoid some of the really bad stuff.

when i was younger i realized that if we actually SPED up our approach towards what seems like an all out Armageddon scenario we could iterally use that "speed" to gain a greater force that would propel us slightly around and through the nexus point that many cataclysmic scenarios seem to converge upon, provided we actually consciously divert our trajectory even a few degrees.

I feel as though this has happened significantly. a number of things i was shown as a child have actually not happened and some have, but differently. its actually really awesome.

this sight, the work of kerry, bill, and many others along with the millions of magnificent individual beings (cells) in this celestial body are all a testament to that, as is every act of random kindness and compassion.

also, what mr fullford just reported was stellar.

Those each FAR out-weight the force of fear and ignorance that the sad little few lonely weak individual cells acting in disharmony with the whole attempt. read attempt! they suck! lol. they are not even good at what they are attempting! ahem...

now imagine that this seemingly errant and erratic runaway train that is our civilization is speeding headlong into what seems like tragedy running on the fuel of fear and discord. we have sped it up significantly with our attention and energy....enough to use its natural velocity to counter act the seemingly heavy gravitational pull of this nexus that we approach.

if we are truly conscious and aware sentient beings taking part in the determination of this "body" that we find ourselves in, we can be that urge (that each one of us has felt individually in our own lives when instinct and intuition and probably the resonant vibration of our individual cells dancing in unison guide us to some synchronicity) that propels the world itself into a positive and productive timeline that is its natural calling, its planetary synchronicity.

you are the cells in this body. now is the time. every likkle ting is gon be aiight.

;)

-Thunderbird

[kopenhagen]

HI Convo,

Kudo for your 1st post , you make me wonder the planet you mentioned appearing like the moon, would it be the planet X?
where did you get the illustration of the world map?
source?
if the catalysm will happen ,there is no need to move to Australia or South America, we'll all die anyway :lol3:
Thanks

[corvo]

you make me wonder the planet you mentioned appearing like the moon, would it be the planet X?

I don't like the stories with planet X. What I read from the fonts is that this star is more an advice that the font of the issue.



where did you get the illustration of the world map?
source?

All the images that I post are originally products from the work we did in the past 20 year.
The map is coming from Google Earth and was worked out with Photoshop.

if the catalysm will happen ,there is no need to move to Australia or South America, we'll all die anyway :lol3:
The fonts I have indicate very clearly that we WILL have a world after this.
So I'm an optimist.
What is necessary to do is to start to be prepared to all this range of events.
Be prepared includes not only the material aspect but also the spiritual one.
This requires a lot of energies and this is where I intent to focused

[Relin]

Here we go again - all the doom and gloomers - you're so depressing. So what if the Earth changes? Why can't all you people just accept that things are going to change and basically there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO CHANGE IT!!! Each time you look a the future it changes.

Embrace the future and if you die during this process then big deal. You've been born, lived and died a myriad of times and will do so for all of eternity...

:original:

[corvo]

I'm new to this blogging stuff on the internet and just recently sent the following to other areas, but no response really from anyone regarding this gentleman by the name of Patrick Geryl who is a Belgium author.


I know the works of Geryl.
While I'm respecting him I notice how he is missing the Whole story to concentrate on the 2012 pole shift event only.
Additionally he ignore the prophecies related to the time after that tell also which regions are touched by which event.
Finally I disagree with some sensationalism (waves of 2 KM) based on no concrete data.

So yes we will have a pole shift.
Yes, we will have regions under water (see the maps)
No, the Tsnunami is not so bad as Mr. Gerryl tell.
As far I understand the bigger danger is represented by being killed by own fears during the Darkness.
And before you start to discuss it I suggest to try it: close yourself for 3 days in the darkness.
If you know the story of Marpa and Milarepa, you know that being in the darkness for a while can change your "Weltbild" (Germans: your image of the world).
On the other side you risk to die.

"Our Rabbis have taught, four entered into the Pardes. They were Ben Azai, Ben Zoma, Aher, and Rabbi Akiba. Ben Azai gazed and died. Of him it is written, "precious in the eyes of HaShem is the death of his pious ones"
. Ben Zoma gazed, and went insane. Of him, it is written, "have you found honey, eat your share lest you become full, and vomit it up.” . Aher became an apostate. Rabbi Akiba entered, and exited in peace.”

Near term the risk is to don't have food or being involved in riots/repression events.

Medium term the risk is to be involved in the war.

We can address all those risks and live with them.

[roy bodien]

Corvo,

Thankyou for your reply! I need to digest your information and everyone elses.

I don't believe all this information is doom and gloom as "Relin" said , but though chaos comes change and the world does need to change.

Example: like the use of oil and nuclear energy... there are alternatives, free energy! " The highest and best good for all concerned"

Again Thanks Corvo, Love and Peace to all!

[firstfruit]

Very Interesting Corvo!

I'm new to this blogging stuff on the internet and just recently sent the following to other areas, but no response really from anyone regarding this gentleman by the name of Patrick Geryl who is a Belgium author.

Sounds like his veiw is the same as you!

Do you agree with his save places also (South Africa, Morrocco, {Spain but worried about nuclear fall out})

Regards,
Roy

Re: Ecuador farm sanctuary

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kerry and Bill I posted this on the Ground Crew earlier and emailed you couple of days ago...about interviewing Patrick Geryl. Thanks, Roy

Hello Conde and fellow Ground Crew!

I have been visiting Project Camelot many times and listened to alot of the interviews, purchased books, downloads etc.

I have read Edgar Cayce books and others books 30 to 35 years ago. Kari and Bill has certainly given us a lot of wonderful information as well as George Green.

No doubt there is turbulence slated for 2012 and trying to find a "safe place" is my objective for the future of mankind.

I have emailed Bill and Kerry about interviewing this gentleman as some of the information make conflict with being in Ecuador.

Patrick Geryl, I think, goes about it more scientificly, but I would like to have feed back of what others think and if his information is viable?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n37OT...eature=related

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_night/home.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_Seven_Summits
Ecuador is part of a Pacific Ring of volcanoes named "Ring of Fire"
The type of volcanoes found are high and steep-sided stratovolcanoes, which are known to have sudden and violent eruptions with longer periods of dormancy.

By Quito highest volcano in the world, the Cotopaxi.

Trying to make a logicial move and will be open to others view and ideas.

Regards,

Roy



Hi there thank you it’s very very nice to have another view point your post was great I am also in touch with the author of this website: http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/ please go have a look your link and this link have so much in common I have sent your links to him

This is another one to have a look at: http://www.keyofsolomon.net/


Amazing

Regards

[roy bodien]

Hi there thank you it’s very very nice to have another view point your post was great I am also in touch with the author of this website: http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/ please go have a look your link and this link have so much in common I have sent your links to him

This is another one to have a look at: http://www.keyofsolomon.net/


Thanks for your acknowledgement and additional websites Fruitfirst!

Regards,
Roy

[corvo]

I believe, as do "professionals" such as Dan Burisch and David Wilcock, that the pole shift scenario mapped out in Timeline 2 has been adverted.

About being "professional", while I respect the opinion of all the Camelot witness I wonder how they have already demonstrated to be right.
E.g. Dan Burisch forecast with Clinton...

The scenario above is basically coming from people that has demonstrated to be able to do forecasting.
Maybe is not well know that, apart Notradamus that nobody understand, "court certified prophets" are existing?

1947 wurde Irlmaier am Amtsgericht in Laufen wegen "unbefugter Ausübung der Hellseherei gegen Entgelt" angeklagt jedoch aufgrund von Zeugenaussagen und einer Vorführung seiner Hellsichtigkeit freigesprochen.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Irlmaier

(My translation)
In 1947 Irlmaier was accused at the District Court in running of "unauthorized exercise of profecy for money" but at the basis of witness statements and a clear demonstration of its (facoulties) he was acquitted.

Additionally "Die Feldpostbriefe" contains 71,1% of exact forecasting about past events.
No English material is available as far I know.
German text that you can translate this with Google.
http://www.prophezeiungen-zur-zukunft-europas.de/WissHgrd-Feldpost.htm

But finally what is interesting is that:
SO MANY FONTS TELL THE SAME STORY

While the Camelot Whiteness tent to have very different opinions.

[MMe M]

Thank you.

I do appreciate the maps. This timeline scenario explains much of what I have read and some from such obscure sources they are difficult to believe. Forewarned at least gives me a fighting chance.

Yes it is a danger to put yourself out there on the net, It is always risky doing the absolute best you can. But we are here to go forth and do all we can for our fellow man, are we not? We must help each other, and have done with the shackles placed on us by those that feel nothing for us

[giaoue]

This entire scenario with the natural disasters foretold in revelation & occurring on 12/21/2012 seems alot like what has been predicted when the passing of Nibiru/Planet X comes to pass but no description of that as the reason for all of these earth-changing cataclysms is even said. Now Corvo did say something about a bright star being seen in the sky & then it's as big as the moon. Is that the so-called brown dwarf star that the revelation calls Wormwood or what the elites in NASA call Eris (goddess of chaos)? There are so many vids of Planet X on youtube & the US gov't did recently build a SPT (South Pole Telescope) in Antarctica so it can be better to seen because it is travelling in an elliptical orbit (oval) below our solar system & happens to pass us, with some of my research, every 12,960 yrs. Zecharia Sitchin claims its every 3600 yrs but the Deluge (Noah's flood) happened, by the Bible's text, est. 11,000 bc & the Atlantean folklore states the fall of Atlantis happened around 26,000 yrs ago & if you do the math with our current year that puts the destruction of Atlantis about 24,000 bc. The Sumerians knew about it, the Mayans knew about it & so did the Hopi tribe give prophesies about it. Even an article posted on the New York Times on January 30,1983 4days after the IRAS (Infrared Astronimical Satellite) was launched that "Some gravitational force keeps perturbing the 2 giant planets (Uranus & Neptune), causing irregularities in their orbits. The force suggests a presence far away & unseen, a large object that may be the long-sought out Planet X." You should check out www.detailshere.com/nibiru.htm to find out more & pics of it. I also do not feel it is passing our planet even in the year 2012 because Roman emperor Constantine made up the Gregorian calendar & made the birth year of Jesua to be between 2-7 years ahead of the real timeframe. So I'm predicting around 2017 because I do really like the #17. I have no fear of all of this because of what Renlin had posted & also I, like many more aware individuals on this very intriguing planet, will be in a lighter density by shifting & allowing a physical & mental frequency to enrap our entire essence of being. Spread the love, light, & laughter & then fear will just fade away like an ancient memory. :mfr_lol:

[corvo]

Thank you.
This timeline scenario explains much of what I have read and some from such obscure sources they are difficult to believe.

You are welcome.
To tell you the truth I also have some issues to believe this scenario. But please consider that all this is coming from over 300 different fonts, don't knowing of each other in a period of over 1.000 years. Additionally those people used very diffent methods to produce it:
- direct Profecy (no external help), similar to today Remot viewing. Best example Irlmayer.
- Indirect profecy (with external help). Spiritual entity tell a series of "secrets" about the future. Best example: Jesus to Maria Giulia Jahenny, Blain France.
- Astronomical knowledge. Forget the maya for a minute. I invite you to give a second look to the "great year" image I published above. The date opposite to the 2012 is the 10.800 BC that is the year where the Pyramids where build. Now the pyramids where build to celebrate the Zep Tepi (Genesis after the destruction). This is the age of Lion.

An Egyptian holy text says: "And the 7th Age is on the edge of the Abyss"

Calculating and taking into account:
the days and hours propitious
of the stars of Orion and twelve
gods that govern,
here is that they join hands palm to palm
but the sixth between them
hangs on the Abyss
at the hour of defeat the devil
I come here triumphant.

Now the 12 gods are the Processional ages. Starting from Leo the 7th is Aquarius.
The concept of "Abyss" in the QBL is a very dark zone that divide the 3 supern Sephiroth from the rest of the Tree of life. Keep in mind the the Ebrew says that the original QBL was teached by Moses that was an initiated of Heliopolis.

What is not told to well or clear in our beloved religious books is that the reason catastrophe happens is because the Earth's frequency is out of balance with the naturally occurring event. Human consciousness plays a very active role in the health and balance of the planet. If we can shift our focus and consciousness to be in HARMONY!!!! with the Earth the Earth will move through these events will little to no problems.

Now: none of those sources says that we can avoid this. What we can do it to be preparred from a spiritual and physical point of view. this means to start changing today our life.
As I pointed out in this tread:
Action inspired by Light: Trismegistos as Camelot paradigm? A Proposal (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1126) we need topromote a paradigm that put together a spiritual and a concrete aspect.

We need resources like money, we need an alternative ethical economy and we have few time.

Unfortunately what those spiritual being are saying is that the Humanity will not change BEFORE.
Why?
Because what we need to change is an “Event”.
This is something that the architects of the 11 September know.

Now, is to you, fellows reader of this forum to decide if you want to change before or after the event.
Changing today you can help out to create the future.
On the other side means to leave the "security" of the life for the unknown.

The approach my group decided is to have the spirit of warriors. A spiritual warrior don't fear to loose the life because he considers himself already death.
De-attach yourself from the materiality but still remaining in action.
You can do it using the Formula of the Honor to balance the materiality and the Formula of the Hart to balance the inconsistency.
This is the secret of the Vertical Dialectic.

[Gnosis5]

You are welcome.
To tell you the truth I also have some issues to believe this scenario. But please consider that all this is coming from over 300 different fonts, don't knowing of each other in a period of over 1.000 years. Additionally those people used very diffent methods to produce it:
- direct Profecy (no external help), similar to today Remot viewing. Best example Irlmayer.
- Indirect profecy (with external help). Spiritual entity tell a series of "secrets" about the future. Best example: Jesus to Maria Giulia Jahenny, Blain France.
- Astronomical knowledge. Forget the maya for a minute. I invite you to give a second look to the "great year" image I published above. The date opposite to the 2012 is the 10.800 BC that is the year where the Pyramids where build. Now the pyramids where build to celebrate the Zep Tepi (Genesis after the destruction). This is the age of Lion.

An Egyptian holy text says: "And the 7th Age is on the edge of the Abyss"

Calculating and taking into account:
the days and hours propitious
of the stars of Orion and twelve
gods that govern,
here is that they join hands palm to palm
but the sixth between them
hangs on the Abyss
at the hour of defeat the devil
I come here triumphant.

Now the 12 gods are the Processional ages. Starting from Leo the 7th is Aquarius.
The concept of "Abyss" in the QBL is a very dark zone that divide the 3 supern Sephiroth from the rest of the Tree of life. Keep in mind the the Ebrew says that the original QBL was teached by Moses that was an initiated of Heliopolis.



Now: none of those sources says that we can avoid this. What we can do it to be preparred from a spiritual and physical point of view. this means to start changing today our life.
As I pointed out in this tread:
Action inspired by Light: Trismegistos as Camelot paradigm? A Proposal (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1126) we need topromote a paradigm that put together a spiritual and a concrete aspect.

We need resources like money, we need an alternative ethical economy and we have few time.

Unfortunately what those spiritual being are saying is that the Humanity will not change BEFORE.
Why?
Because what we need to change is an “Event”.
This is something that the architects of the 11 September know.

Now, is to you, fellows reader of this forum to decide if you want to change before or after the event.
Changing today you can help out to create the future.
On the other side means to leave the "security" of the life for the unknown.

The approach my group decided is to have the spirit of warriors. A spiritual warrior don't fear to loose the life because he considers himself already death.
De-attach yourself from the materiality but still remaining in action.
You can do it using the Formula of the Honor to balance the materiality and the Formula of the Hart to balance the inconsistency.
This is the secret of the Vertical Dialectic.

Your terminology and expressions are not familiar to me but I agree that we must die little deaths to this material world. Technically, that means availing ourselves of processes that helps us to loosen our grip on our "old toys" -- the negative energy ridges that we carry around with us from lifetime to lifetime. I am alive no matter what happens to my body, or my status.

It came to me in the early 90's that it is best to end the win/lose scenarios and operate within a win/win philosophy. This is because win/lose becomes lose/lose for everyone.

[corvo]

I am alive no matter what happens to my body, or my status.

You have an interesting nick name.
I the east and west tradition exist "spiritual social classes" (Varna in Sanskrit) .
Each one has his harmonic place in the society.
Now many participant on this forum have a "written attitude" to be high philosophers that suggest love and peace but they live as Shudras.
If we take part on this materialistic society that has nothing to do with the above nobles concepts our words are empty air.
This is not enough to express your negation to the war in Iraq if you drive a SUV.
Who has a job know that economical decisions follows day by day material needs.
This is nothing bad: people need a job, food and a shelter.
So we can start to create solid ethical alternatives to provide such "bad" material aspect or let this task to the Illuminati "evil guys" while we wait that the ET save us.
The fact is that those persons give to you what you really want.
If you want to have a real democracy start fight for it.
Either if you want to promote love FIGHT!
Keep in mind people like Gandhi and act instead of discuss of which air color have the Nordics!

Declare abstract love and peace means nothing.

I invite you al to take the responsibility of this Love and the action that is the consequence of it.
I invite you all to use this forum as a motor for this transformation.

[mkpetrov]

Here we go again - all the doom and gloomers - you're so depressing. So what if the Earth changes? Why can't all you people just accept that things are going to change and basically there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO CHANGE IT!!! Each time you look a the future it changes.

Embrace the future and if you die during this process then big deal. You've been born, lived and died a myriad of times and will do so for all of eternity...

:original:

Well, it`s simple - people who want doom doesn`t see things changing for good in the near future. Do you honestly see such kind of changes coming? No NWO etc?

[Gnosis5]

I agree wholeheartedly. As David Wilcock says, we must continue to do our spiritual processes.

About Earth Entity: When I was taking a PEAT class I had a chance to surrogate process the earth entity. The polarity that came up was "big and small" and that got resolved. Earth entity was very confident and jolly from what I felt. If I can do it anyone can do it, with a little help from your friends :-)




Ok if you made it through this reading to this part there is something that can be done to minimize and even avoid this dire prophecy. What is not told to well or clear in our beloved religious books is that the reason catastrophe happens is because the Earth's frequency is out of balance with the naturally occurring event. Human consciousness plays a very active role in the health and balance of the planet. If we can shift our focus and consciousness to be in HARMONY!!!! with the Earth the Earth will move through these events will little to no problems. We must work within the frequency and energy provided by our planet and the Universe to make this transition an easy and enlightened one. We are at a crossroads where we can choose to raise our frequency to a higher dimension, stay at the same level of consciousnesses or move one step lower in dimension. Some will move higher, some stay the same and some will take a step down. There are an infinite amount of timelines and possibilities. You have the power to chose your Destiny.

[Racsouran]

i cannot read some diagrams u put because they are too tiny to be read.... please post them in a much bigger size.

[Guardian]

Although everything is possible, and some things may seem more probable than the other, none of anything 'have' to manifest. So on the conclusion you've reached Corvo, I must disagree, nothing is written in stone, in an instance it can all change....even tomorrow if that was the biggest wish.

It is quite allright that you see it as a truth to you, and so it might be too, but to say that this goes for everyone is to limit the vastness of...I dunno....creation?
Maybe the 'bigger picture' is too big to fit in your model, ever thought about that?

The matter of fact is, that you are more dead now than you'll ever be!

This is something that was taught to me at a very young age by 'them'.

You are all mainly focusing on aspects of illusions, and what you hold to be true in your heart, will determine your experience at any one time...all the time...through infinity.

And you can all rest assure that I will not try and 'model' any future probabilities for anyone, as that would be completly wrong of me, not because I know of a future that will be, but because of your free will...it is yours alone, just use it wizely.

On the nothion of 'the power of thought', although not published in scientific papers, studies and experiments have shown that if you take the square root of a given population, you absolutly can influence 'events'. Now, how rigid is the future, or timeline then?
It could be worth mentioning that there is not only 1 or two timelines.....their numbers are vast, beyond comprehension....still rigid?

If you really really want to know the bigger picture, I would suggest looking into the nature of reality, the vail of illusion is slowly being pulled aside....that is if you recognize what is moving and shaking.

But at all time, this is important, the crux of everything, seek to understand the mechanism's yourself, dont just believe what someone else says.

If you do, you'll have eyes to see....and if not, you'll just be following a different pied piper.

You are all far more than you believe, and for too long have been limited by others as well as yourselves. You are love, so you should be love.
I am sorry if this came off as an attack, that was not the purpose, I am just not a writer or a teacher. I applaude everyone who has reached the fact that nothing is as they've been told, so think twice before you jump headfirst into a new bondage of thought...you all deserve better, you're all free spirits.

Blessings :D

[Buchanan561]

I posted earlier that I would write about my prophetic dream of March 7th 2008 and here it is. I write this because in this dream I was shown the truth of the effects on 3-D human life (me) during 2012. I was shown that this is how it would effect me. But it may not effect others in the same way. My experiences may be different from others as I walk a different path. This will be my reality, and most likely will be yours too. Thanks for allowing me to share.

My electric dream March 7 2008

Log date March 10, 2008: For some reason I have been sleeping much better for the past few nights. Last night I had this dream. In this dream I was staying in the home of some people whom I did not know. But I felt quite comfortable being there in this dream.

I was outside of their very elegant home when all of a sudden I became aware that there was going to be a raging storm. I could see it approaching. I was standing out in front of this home on the sidewalk. I was about 40 feet from the front door. It was a very long sidewalk.

I struggled against what seemed to be strong winds pressing against me just in order to get up the sidewalk and into the house. It seemed that the wind was blowing hard preventing me from making an easy walk up the sidewalk and into the house to safety.

But…..I do not actually remember there being any wind. Just a ‘force’ which caused the perception of wind that was slowing me down in my endeavor to reach the safety of the inside of the house.

In my mind I felt that it must be wind that was holding my body back, as I was leaning forward in order to make progress up the walkway, but in reality there was no wind. There was just felt this ‘force’ around me holding me back.

Finally I did make it inside as the storm started to rage. There were huge dark gray and black clouds that appeared from out of no where and took up all the sky and came down to ground level.

The clouds were huge like giant rolled up ‘something ?’ and seemed to be alive. They were dark gray to black. They wrapped around everything in sight while lashing out this seeming electrical storm of some strange energy that I had never seen before.

The ‘clouds’ wrapped down onto and around the house.

I watched through a large picture like window in the living room as it raged. The window ‘grew’ and then seemed to take up the entire wall, ceiling to floor and wall to wall. I had never seen anything like it.

I watched as it continued to rage throwing out large areas of bright white light that also seemed to be white sheet like flashes of energy. I knew that the air was full of electricity outside but saw no evidence of lightening.

Then the dark clouds would just disappear for several moments of time and were replaced with glorious white sheets of light that resembled clouds but were not.

I watched in Awe but was not afraid. The feeling was caution.

Then swirls of a beautiful opaque blue would appear swirling in the white clouds. I felt that this storm was alive with a consciousness. I knew it did. It seemed to stop for moments in time and then would begin again.

The woman who owned the house went around and opened windows so the air from the storm could come inside. I would go behind her and close the windows. I did not want to let this storm come into the house. She would just quietly go around behind me and very gently open them up again. It seems that I should say that the rain was pelting down in torrents. I ‘knew’ it was.

But I do not remember seeing any rain. I just ‘felt’ that it was raining very hard.

As I watched in awe inside the house large flashes of films of what was going on outside would flash on the walls and ceiling and floor inside where I was standing and watching. These were all mirror images of what was going on outside in a movie like showing.

So I watched the storm via moving pictures being cast onto the walls and ceilings inside. I cannot remember anything else from the dream as this was it, but it left me with a feeling that the storm had a personality and was trying to purge the area and the earth and cleanse it. And I felt like there was a message being given to me but at the time did not know what it was.

When the violent storm was over I looked outside and the earth seemed to be very clean and glowing. Everything around seemed to glow with a perfection.

The storm was very violent, but I remained safe. After the storm everything seemed calm, clean and safe. I never saw another human being during this episode. Just myself and the lady who owned the house that I was staying with for some unknown reason. She was a stranger to me. And I know the dream was about 2012 and projected horror stories about what would happen during those days. And tell me not to worry as the stories are exaggerated.

I would like to add to this that I have since learned who the woman in the house was. And the location of the house that I had this experience in.

I had know her for many months but had never seen a picture of her. She lived on the other side of our continent. Someone I had ‘met’ on a message board. I had never seen her and may never. But some time later I by chance shared this dream with her in an e-mail. She is intuitive. She agreed that it was a prophetic dream of some nature.

Later I sent her photos of myself because I had just gotten a new toy and that was a camcorder attachment for my computer and I went crazy practicing how to work the thing. I sent her a couple of pictures I took of myself. She then sent me photos of herself, her house and family.

I examined the pictures and was shocked to see that it was the house in my dream, and she was identical to the woman in the dream that gently kept going behind me and reopening the windows.

This was a symbolic thing I was being shown as it is a reflection of her personality. She would never have said anything to me for shutting the windows as that is not her nature. She never verbalizes disagreement. She will just gently shine a light in another direction that will make one rethink. Her nature is living with the earth and she had no fear of the ‘storm’ and was willing to let it enter her home for internal reasons of her own.

It took me a couple of weeks to figure out what the dream was showing me. That the predicted ‘storms’ that are predicted regarding 2012, will be ‘electrical’ in nature and fears of it are unwarranted as that it will not harm. And that the earth will be changed, cleansed and a bright and new thing will emerge.

The woman in the house turned out to be someone I was working very closely with via e-mails regarding these troubling times we live in. We weathered the ‘storm’ together in the house as we are doing the same with what we are doing now. And with a larger platform now with Project Avalon.

I introduced her to Project Camelot and Ets, and she introduced me to Avalon.

That woman is a member of this forum and her screen name is Trishsgate. I hope you all get to know her as she is a remarkable being and knows and understands things that most would not nor could not. She is amazing but she never writes in any fashion that would reflect that, as she keeps everything inside and hidden.

Trish……thank you for being in my world. I know that you have learned from me as you have told me many times. But know that I also have learned much from you and would not have made it this far without your partnership in this venture to search for truth. Emma

[Trishsgate]

I am crying now you know that was very emotional and I feel the same way we have a bond that no storm can break, we can weather any storm and we know it. You are my shoulder that I depend on now that my mum has passed and I am your computer geek and student. You came into my life right after my mum left and it was very needed and timely.it filled a void that was missing in my life. Know that it will never be forgotten... Your dreams are very prophetic in nature.
I will never forget when you left the other forum at that time I was sick for months on end, then I started feeling a little better enough to check my e-mail and seen you had written me an e-mail a couple days before. I opened it and you asked if I was still on the board I said no so we started communicating back and forth. About a week into this I seen an orb I followed it then it had visual 's inside, out of the many one face stood out. Later you sent me a link to Project Camelot with an interview of Sgt. Clifford Stone this was the same man that stood out in the orb. I could not believe it as at that time I was a very logical person and needed tangible proof to back up anything although I had seen beings before I never associated them with ET's. That started my ever ending search for the truth concerning ET's. and history. You became my mentor in this research and has continued through the present.
I hope that everyone welcomes you as well you have been an inspiration in my life as I know you can be to other's here on this forum. You have much wisdom and guidance to share. Thank you for finally coming on and contributing. Thank you from the bottom of my heart and the depths of my soul.
Love you hun and welcome to the forum.

PS You are always, always welcome here if ever needed, let's stay positive, I know you love your surroundings.

[Gnosis5]

It came off to me as a correction upwards, thank you.



Although everything is possible, and some things may seem more probable than the other, none of anything 'have' to manifest. So on the conclusion you've reached Corvo, I must disagree, nothing is written in stone, in an instance it can all change....even tomorrow if that was the biggest wish.

It is quite allright that you see it as a truth to you, and so it might be too, but to say that this goes for everyone is to limit the vastness of...I dunno....creation?
Maybe the 'bigger picture' is too big to fit in your model, ever thought about that?

The matter of fact is, that you are more dead now than you'll ever be!

This is something that was taught to me at a very young age by 'them'.

You are all mainly focusing on aspects of illusions, and what you hold to be true in your heart, will determine your experience at any one time...all the time...through infinity.

And you can all rest assure that I will not try and 'model' any future probabilities for anyone, as that would be completly wrong of me, not because I know of a future that will be, but because of your free will...it is yours alone, just use it wizely.

On the nothion of 'the power of thought', although not published in scientific papers, studies and experiments have shown that if you take the square root of a given population, you absolutly can influence 'events'. Now, how rigid is the future, or timeline then?
It could be worth mentioning that there is not only 1 or two timelines.....their numbers are vast, beyond comprehension....still rigid?

If you really really want to know the bigger picture, I would suggest looking into the nature of reality, the vail of illusion is slowly being pulled aside....that is if you recognize what is moving and shaking.

But at all time, this is important, the crux of everything, seek to understand the mechanism's yourself, dont just believe what someone else says.

If you do, you'll have eyes to see....and if not, you'll just be following a different pied piper.

You are all far more than you believe, and for too long have been limited by others as well as yourselves. You are love, so you should be love.
I am sorry if this came off as an attack, that was not the purpose, I am just not a writer or a teacher. I applaude everyone who has reached the fact that nothing is as they've been told, so think twice before you jump headfirst into a new bondage of thought...you all deserve better, you're all free spirits.

Blessings :D

[Gnosis5]

In that case, I shall myself look forward to 2012 with all my heart.

love,
G-5


I posted earlier that I would write about my prophetic dream of March 7th 2008 and here it is. I write this because in this dream I was shown the truth of the effects on 3-D human life (me) during 2012. I was shown that this is how it would effect me. But it may not effect others in the same way. My experiences may be different from others as I walk a different path. This will be my reality, and most likely will be yours too. Thanks for allowing me to share.

My electric dream March 7 2008

Log date March 10, 2008: For some reason I have been sleeping much better for the past few nights. Last night I had this dream. In this dream I was staying in the home of some people whom I did not know. But I felt quite comfortable being there in this dream.

I was outside of their very elegant home when all of a sudden I became aware that there was going to be a raging storm. I could see it approaching. I was standing out in front of this home on the sidewalk. I was about 40 feet from the front door. It was a very long sidewalk.

I struggled against what seemed to be strong winds pressing against me just in order to get up the sidewalk and into the house. It seemed that the wind was blowing hard preventing me from making an easy walk up the sidewalk and into the house to safety.

But…..I do not actually remember there being any wind. Just a ‘force’ which caused the perception of wind that was slowing me down in my endeavor to reach the safety of the inside of the house.

In my mind I felt that it must be wind that was holding my body back, as I was leaning forward in order to make progress up the walkway, but in reality there was no wind. There was just felt this ‘force’ around me holding me back.

Finally I did make it inside as the storm started to rage. There were huge dark gray and black clouds that appeared from out of no where and took up all the sky and came down to ground level.

The clouds were huge like giant rolled up ‘something ?’ and seemed to be alive. They were dark gray to black. They wrapped around everything in sight while lashing out this seeming electrical storm of some strange energy that I had never seen before.

The ‘clouds’ wrapped down onto and around the house.

I watched through a large picture like window in the living room as it raged. The window ‘grew’ and then seemed to take up the entire wall, ceiling to floor and wall to wall. I had never seen anything like it.

I watched as it continued to rage throwing out large areas of bright white light that also seemed to be white sheet like flashes of energy. I knew that the air was full of electricity outside but saw no evidence of lightening.

Then the dark clouds would just disappear for several moments of time and were replaced with glorious white sheets of light that resembled clouds but were not.

I watched in Awe but was not afraid. The feeling was caution.

Then swirls of a beautiful opaque blue would appear swirling in the white clouds. I felt that this storm was alive with a consciousness. I knew it did. It seemed to stop for moments in time and then would begin again.

The woman who owned the house went around and opened windows so the air from the storm could come inside. I would go behind her and close the windows. I did not want to let this storm come into the house. She would just quietly go around behind me and very gently open them up again. It seems that I should say that the rain was pelting down in torrents. I ‘knew’ it was.

But I do not remember seeing any rain. I just ‘felt’ that it was raining very hard.

As I watched in awe inside the house large flashes of films of what was going on outside would flash on the walls and ceiling and floor inside where I was standing and watching. These were all mirror images of what was going on outside in a movie like showing.

So I watched the storm via moving pictures being cast onto the walls and ceilings inside. I cannot remember anything else from the dream as this was it, but it left me with a feeling that the storm had a personality and was trying to purge the area and the earth and cleanse it. And I felt like there was a message being given to me but at the time did not know what it was.

When the violent storm was over I looked outside and the earth seemed to be very clean and glowing. Everything around seemed to glow with a perfection.

The storm was very violent, but I remained safe. After the storm everything seemed calm, clean and safe. I never saw another human being during this episode. Just myself and the lady who owned the house that I was staying with for some unknown reason. She was a stranger to me. And I know the dream was about 2012 and projected horror stories about what would happen during those days. And tell me not to worry as the stories are exaggerated.

I would like to add to this that I have since learned who the woman in the house was. And the location of the house that I had this experience in.

I had know her for many months but had never seen a picture of her. She lived on the other side of our continent. Someone I had ‘met’ on a message board. I had never seen her and may never. But some time later I by chance shared this dream with her in an e-mail. She is intuitive. She agreed that it was a prophetic dream of some nature.

Later I sent her photos of myself because I had just gotten a new toy and that was a camcorder attachment for my computer and I went crazy practicing how to work the thing. I sent her a couple of pictures I took of myself. She then sent me photos of herself, her house and family.

I examined the pictures and was shocked to see that it was the house in my dream, and she was identical to the woman in the dream that gently kept going behind me and reopening the windows.

This was a symbolic thing I was being shown as it is a reflection of her personality. She would never have said anything to me for shutting the windows as that is not her nature. She never verbalizes disagreement. She will just gently shine a light in another direction that will make one rethink. Her nature is living with the earth and she had no fear of the ‘storm’ and was willing to let it enter her home for internal reasons of her own.

It took me a couple of weeks to figure out what the dream was showing me. That the predicted ‘storms’ that are predicted regarding 2012, will be ‘electrical’ in nature and fears of it are unwarranted as that it will not harm. And that the earth will be changed, cleansed and a bright and new thing will emerge.

The woman in the house turned out to be someone I was working very closely with via e-mails regarding these troubling times we live in. We weathered the ‘storm’ together in the house as we are doing the same with what we are doing now. And with a larger platform now with Project Avalon.

I introduced her to Project Camelot and Ets, and she introduced me to Avalon.

That woman is a member of this forum and her screen name is Trishsgate. I hope you all get to know her as she is a remarkable being and knows and understands things that most would not nor could not. She is amazing but she never writes in any fashion that would reflect that, as she keeps everything inside and hidden.

Trish……thank you for being in my world. I know that you have learned from me as you have told me many times. But know that I also have learned much from you and would not have made it this far without your partnership in this venture to search for truth. Emma

[stresswon]

excellent thread and theory. I respect it.


I think the only thing we can do at this point is wait and see.