IMPORTANT: to all on the Camelot Round Table list, and to all PayPal contributors

[Bill Ryan]

Dear All:

Please excuse this method of addressing everyone. It's just the easiest way!

Kerry and I have been blown away by the number of people on the Round Table Pledge List (http://projectcamelot.org/round_table.html). We want to thank every one of you for your commitment to support what we stand for.

We have NOT been able to reply to you all. This is never an intended discourtesy. We were already swamped with e-mail messages and now we have twice as many. :biggrin2: It's just not physically possible for us to reply to or acknowledge everyone who writes to us. We hope that we have never caused no disappointment or offense. Every person on the list is valued and appreciated here.

If a message is important or personal, please re-send (and continue doing so!). We DO both read everything we receive.

We also want to thank the many people who have sent PayPal contributions.

These have been our lifeline. Without them, we would not be able to do what we have been able to, and this Forum (and Project Avalon) would not exist.

You have been extraordinarily generous. It always moves us - whether it's a large donation - and we have had some (THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS - YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE) - or a teenager from Poland or India or South Africa or Indonesia or Argentina who sends us $2.

To these fine people who have pledged, or donated: we'd like to ask you if you can give us a hand. Many of you have written to offer your services in a number of areas. We've not always been able to respond to those messages, either.

We're now in a place which is like a small business start-up becoming overwhelmed by its own success and demand for expansion. As any businessmen and women among you know, this can be a dangerous phase.

Here's what we need - from people that we already know (and you'll understand the reason for that):

* A good administrator who can manage and co-ordinate a small virtual team of people doing various jobs - like those below.

* Translators (We are VERY behind with this. We have a LOT of unposted, translated material.)

* HTML editors who can create web standard Camelot pages with translated material from text documents, linked to the English versions.

* Researchers who can - for example - collect the extraordinary amount of hard, practical information that is already on this Forum and help us organize and archive it to the new Avalon site.

Kerry and I have to continue to do what we feel we do best. In the next few weeks we have half a dozen new interviews scheduled, and this involves a lot of traveling and time spent offline. But meanwhile, we're in danger of being swamped by detailed but important and necessary work that could be undertaken by other Ground Crew volunteers.

A great model is the Camelot transcription team, already fine-tuned and up and running beautifully. They have a co-ordinator - a member here - who allocates work which is checked and edited between them. This runs smoothly each according to their schedule, availability, interest and preference.

The system now works so well that we now have almost ready-to-post transcriptions, completed with a few days of the interview, that can in theory be uploaded to the web within an hour. This is a pleasure and a Godsend to work with - and is a terrific service to thousands of people out there. This, then, is our model for how we'd love everythng else to operate.

Do please contact us at support@projectcamelot.org [and put GROUND CREW somewhere in the subject line] - and we'd love to hear from you.

With our warmest wishes to all -

Bill and Kerry

[Kate]

Bill,Kerry and ALL the team...where intention goes..the energy flows! and this site is a prime example of this! We are all here because you have given us the opportunity of a platform much needed around the globe!

A sincere THANKYOU and wishing you much success with ongoing interviews and building this project.....
blessings to you!

[Jamie]

Hi Bill and Kerry,

FANTASTIC job you are doing, and as a previous contributor(financial) to PC I hope I can help you further in the future.

At this moment in time I am currently distracted with other Projects of my own, but I shall monitor this thread closely, and I hope that in the not to distant future I will be able to offer my assistance as an experienced Administrator.

Blessings

Jay

[Mikey5856]

Hi, Bill;

Sent you an e-mail to support@projectcamelot.org with my offer. I challenge at least twenty other members to step up!

With deepest gratitude for all your work,

Mike Melton

[lightworkers]

the same thing Mike just said!

[Vicki]

HI Guys

Sent you an email with my details, good luck in your team building!

Well done for such a great idea - this site!

Vicki

[Phtha]

Just sent my email.

My sincere thanks to everyone who is involved with this wonderful site in this exciting time we all find ourselves in.

With love and freedom,
John

[firstfruit]

Lak-ech all my family :)

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

I would like to help. I used to help moderate a now defunct small music forum a long time ago. Obviously, I have a job, family & so on but in my free time I guess I could help out moderating if you want. I am in the UK.

[galaxygirl]

Glad to help Bill and Kerry!

Ive sent a message so count me in!

[viking]

I'll second that .....

viking

[THEWATCHER]

Barry King, the individual we are looking after post trauma, is a whistle-blower on your round table listings. The support pledged will continue.

THE WATCHER

[Frank Samuel]

Kerry, Bill

I thank you and want to support you guys in any way I can.
Hey , relax and enjoy life no need for explanations we love you guys just the same. You two are my heroes , warriors of the path to enlightment.
If possible send PO address for checks . I travel all my life and I have to tell you there's no place like home so I thank you for your sacrifice.

[granny]

Bill

"You have been extraordinarily generous. It always moves us - whether it's a large donation - and we have had some (THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS - YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE) - or a teenager from Poland or India or South Africa or Indonesia or Argentina who sends us $2."

You know $2 from the least able to contribute far exceeds whatever those in comfort can afford.

Gran

[CONDE]

Thanks Mama Firehorse, U are correct and very wise.

Back to topic, Where are the LINKS for payment ?
is this still being discussed ? anyone knows if there is a
location for paying for a suscription. ?

[christian]

Interesting discussion. I must add that from the work I've seen on the project camelot site, it is amazing how Bill and Kerry absorbed all those costs out of pure desire to make a difference. This sort of unselfish gift that these two have provided should not be overlooked as mere folly, but rather a strong passion where they have put everyone on the line...life, money and reputation.

How many are prepared to make such a contribution, and offer their works for free? Few, if any. Any fair minded person knows that money is a means of exchange, and absolutely required to run any business or charitable endeavor. Further, the laborer is worthy of their hire, and obviously the level of character shines through so often when mere man is asked to separate money from his wallet. There is no doubt Bill and Kerry have proven and demonstrated they are willing to give their entire wallet, and life and reputation, to this cause.

I suggest we not waste our energy on those who will not reach into their pocket at all, but rather merely complain seeking everything for free. It is this view that has made us slaves to these wicked rulers in this world.

[THEWATCHER]

Interesting discussion. I must add that from the work I've seen on the project camelot site, it is amazing how Bill and Kerry absorbed all those costs out of pure desire to make a difference. This sort of unselfish gift that these two have provided should not be overlooked as mere folly, but rather a strong passion where they have put everyone on the line...life, money and reputation.

How many are prepared to make such a contribution, and offer their works for free? Few, if any. Any fair minded person knows that money is a means of exchange, and absolutely required to run any business or charitable endeavor. Further, the laborer is worthy of their hire, and obviously the level of character shines through so often when mere man is asked to separate money from his wallet. There is no doubt Bill and Kerry have proven and demonstrated they are willing to give their entire wallet, and life and reputation, to this cause.

I suggest we not waste our energy on those who will not reach into their pocket at all, but rather merely complain seeking everything for free. It is this view that has made us slaves to these wicked rulers in this world.

Fair statements. A request made a day or two ago to Bill & Kerry was a simple request. Do those with insider information or indeed whistleblowers need to contribute to the running of this site? For they too have, over the years given much to inform joe public. Time, money, intimidation, threats, harassment and physical harm have been endured, and still they step forward bravely to disclose hidden data. A response would be appreciated, just for the record. Thankyou.

THE WATCHER

[christian]

TheWatcher, that is a great question. Personally, if I were running the site, I would exclude any whistleblower from any fees...absolutely. They put their money on the line each and every time they come forward with any piece of information that saves us time, money and perhaps our own lives. You are speaking about a highly special person who has the brass to put themselves out there...and we know history shows us they may likely loose everything they have worked for during their lives to make a difference. Great question...I would never charge them to come to this forum from the points you raised.

[CONDE]

Money is only a concept from our 5% material side...

The other 95% spiritual side of me, just wants to make shure this
amazing form of Avalonic convergence continues at ALL cost.:smoke:

Frank Conde
www.deathisnormal.com

[HaveBlue]

I am personally very much looking foward to this new proposed part of Avalon.
By having to pay to be part of it will hopefully sort the wheat from the chaff so to speak.
I do not intend any offense to anyone here when I say that. Every body that wants to post should of course be allowed to as long as they are respecting all other members and therefore themselves too.
However there are alot of posts that are not important or applicable to me(this post may well be one of them in some others minds too of course!) and by being in a forum that is being charged for this will limit the stuff I have to skip to reach the good stuff.
And most importantly I am, along with many others I'm sure more than happy to see to it that Camelot/Avalon remains viable and keeps going well into the future. Naturally it takes resources and money to do this. In my mind money is only another source of energy. The intent is what makes it good or bad energy. Supporting Camelot/Avalon with money can surely be sending 'good energy'.
If anyone in admin reads this please PM or email me with the details as soon as the pay per view section is up and running.
Thank you,
Kind regards,Stephen

[Stephen]

If people do not want to give then don't.

It doesn't matter if someone gives a lot or a little IF they are not doing it from the heart then it is meaningless....

I do not use PayPal myself. I do not trust it....
I simply mail a check as I have done in the past.

[CONDE]

Wise words Mr. De Niro.
And yes, pay Pal and E-bay are the devil !

[Stephen]

Question to Bill & Kerry: If we do pay for a subscription will we receive a lot more PMs?
50 is not near enough. Unlimited would be ideal!

Thanks for any and all answers!

[Kate]

Hi folks its me again!
Hello Bill and Kerry!! :biggrin2:

Just been flicking through the posts and giving some thought to a possible 'middle ground solution' ....how about including these options so EVERYONE is happy...:thumb_yello:

1. paypal/visa area for people who are happy to make the standard payment

2. option for bigger/ no ceiling payment from those who have the money and want to invest in this site and contribute to the 'bigger cause'?

3. option to sign up for a 'points' system for people who cant justify a cash payment of any sorts? eg...some point/rewards can be achieved by logging in and participating in certain numbers of posts? extra rewards for helping out/moderating etc.....once a certain number of points are achieved those people can have full access to all the site?

4. A 'visitor' only option where people can view a selection of posts ( but NOT access the private forum posts/interaction with the Interview whistlblowers) . Only a certain amount of visits per day....and if curious visitors are keen enough to know more and get involved, there is the 'paid members zone' with full access to everything!!

If this would be possible to implement, i believe this could cover ALL the previous issues discussed...:thumb_yello:

what do ya think? could this be a feasable solution? :original:

[granny]

So, nowone push you to join this forum...anyway,.....
how you write.... you proove that you don't like Kerry, so, what you are doing here?....you don't have something else more imortant then this?....spend your time doing things that you like...in this way you will find yourself.....



Obvious Troll attack ... best to ignore the either misinformed or deliberate disinfo troll-folks.

Gran :tongue2:

[CONDE]

Hi folks its me again!
Hello Bill and Kerry!! :biggrin2:

Just been flicking through the posts and giving some thought to a possible 'middle ground solution' ....how about including these options so EVERYONE is happy...:thumb_yello:

1. paypal/visa area for people who are happy to make the standard payment

2. option for bigger/ no ceiling payment from those who have the money and want to invest in this site and contribute to the 'bigger cause'?

3. option to sign up for a 'points' system for people who cant justify a cash payment of any sorts? eg...some point/rewards can be achieved by logging in and participating in certain numbers of posts? extra rewards for helping out/moderating etc.....once a certain number of points are achieved those people can have full access to all the site?

4. A 'visitor' only option where people can view a selection of posts ( but NOT access the private forum posts/interaction with the Interview whistlblowers) . Only a certain amount of visits per day....and if curious visitors are keen enough to know more and get involved, there is the 'paid members zone' with full access to everything!!

If this would be possible to implement, i believe this could cover ALL the previous issues discussed...:thumb_yello:

what do ya think? could this be a feasable solution? :original:


BRILLIANT !!!

I say yes yo ALL. .........bt add ...Pay Pal / Visa/ MC

Frank Conde.

[odiseo]

If you need a translator i can help you with Spanish if there something to be made let me know :).

[stefaan]

Kerry, Bill,

It's pretty normal when you attract so much people, there will be some... how can I put it... you don't like very much or they don't like you. Angry people, malcontents... This one above, Temporary, is a good example, not a friendly voice. Fortunately there are so many other grateful voices to compensate. How many have thanked you here already?

You cannot deny there has been build an complete industry around new age, 2012,... A lot of people make tons of money on it. Some in a bad way, taking advantage of the weakness of 'customers'. Some customers get disappointed, maybe angry after a while. But not all 'money-makers' are so bad. Who wouldn't like to make a living out of a hobby (in your case: a quest for truth)? Sometimes it is merely out of necessity... As long as you don't exploit people, there is nothing wrong with it, or is there?

After novelty wears off, the number of active members will drop surely. Let's say to some 1000 members. When you get $5 each per month (or $30/12), multiplied by 1000... Ok, there is nice income. Something between $2500 and $5000, to be split in 2. Calculated with 1500 paying members, it 's between $3750 and $7500. Maybe it seems a lot to some. But you have to live from it, you put a lot of effort (your whole lifes?) into the project(s), and these projects also bring their costs to be paid.
So, is it exaggerated? No it's not. Is it well deserved? Surely it is.

If you attract 1,835 members in just a few days, it must mean, you have found a gap, you for fill a need. People were waiting for what you're doing now.
Are you sincere, or are you just selling something you don't believe in, just because it sells well? If one still needs to ask this question, he/she would better wash his/her ears out, or his eyes for that matter. It's so obvious you both are very sincere. You're also very cautious not to force opinions onto people. You have your heart in the right place. You're doing ok.

So, don’t let yourselves be touched by any bad remarks. Continue to be what you are, and do what you do. It’s much appreciated. Thanks.

Stefaan

[Jonathon]

Kerry & Bill,

I'm happy to send a donation, however I would greatly prefer an address to send a money order to. Do you guys have some way to collect by mail? An intermediary source of some kind?

[Jamie]

Try this address, it was on the contact us page of the main Project Avalon site.

http://www.projectavalon.net/contact.htm

PROJECT AVALON
638 Lindero Canyon Road
Suite 277
Oak Park
CA 91377-5457, USA

Cheers

Jay

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

I still think that all areas should be open to everyone. Weather they contribute a payment or not.

Like i said before, I would gladly pay 30$ to keep the site on the web but only as long as eveyone can see all areas. If everyone means what they say, then this should not be a problem with anyone.

[THEWATCHER]

Fair statements. A request made a day or two ago to Bill & Kerry was a simple request. Do those with insider information or indeed whistleblowers need to contribute to the running of this site? For they too have, over the years given much to inform joe public. Time, money, intimidation, threats, harassment and physical harm have been endured, and still they step forward bravely to disclose hidden data. A response would be appreciated, just for the record. Thankyou.

THE WATCHER

Any response from Bill or Kerry would be appreciated by us, thankyou

[CONDE]

Any response from Bill or Kerry would be appreciated by us, thankyou

There should be a REGULAR suscripton button, a PREMIUN "eyes only" pay suscription button , there should be a button for all of the HEROES (one each),
in case I want to donate funds to them directly, oh and maybe a button with an option to pay people TO LEAVE !.

It is only stinking money...For ALL there is to Know, think about it.:naughty:

[mntruthseeker]

I am also broke at this time as I have other obligations but I will not put anyone down. I will hae money soon and Iwill contribute what ever I can

I take turns and this month it was David Icke's and as always my kids turn.

It takes money to run these sites and I appreciate so much of what it being said that I did donate by purchasing cds off the site.

So please just keep the negativity out of the forum and donate if you can and when you can

I want this site to continue don't you? If they didn't help us with this information, where would it come from? certainly not our government. :trumpet::trumpet:

[mntruthseeker]

:biggrin2:you can count on me to help when I can. I dont think money is much good after 9/30/08 is it?

Project cmelot got me started and I will never for get it. Neither will my family:lmao:

I am locked in my room 20/24 now.

love all of you

[Norval]

I have to agree with those that say and ask that the site, ALL THE SITE remain open for anyone to read with out cost. Those of us that are researchers, and not just rehashes of other peoples research, have had a cost outlay of our own. It is my hope that what I contribute here will be, and remain, available for anyone to read with out cost to them.

You can count on mine and three other subscriptions if it means the site will remain open for all to read. And, yes I will even toss in enough for you to get yourselves a couple of drinks on your next flight to where ever for your next interview. After some of this stuff is learned, I know I have needed a drink , ,, or two.

Let us know what you decide to do, and when. Best of hope to yah. :original:

[Dantheman62]

I am in the same boat as some of you, thanks to our government and our economy I have closed my business and am very close to going bankrupt. My house is for sale at rock bottom price and if it doesn't sell within the next two months my credit cards will be maxed out and I will be broke. But, I can always find enough to donate to this site because I believe in Bill and Kerry and what they are doing and their honesty. I think some of the people they have interviewed in Project Camelot are so intelligent that they are actually bordering on insanity, if that makes any sense, but I take it all in and make up my own mind on things. I know the negativity of some will never hurt all the positive here in this site. I think the negative ones need more music in their lives, for music is the international language. Peace, love, and rock n roll.

[THEWATCHER]

Any response from Bill or Kerry would be appreciated by us, thankyou


Any response even if its sorry we are too busy to respond!!!


THE WATCHER

[fil]

No time to read all the responses, swear there weren't so many when I left the computer a few hours ago...

I just joined today, and would be seriously disappointed if this became a pay site. Like many others, I have a limited budget...

Would like to suggest a grandfather clause. Give serious Project Camelot followers a chance to join Avalon, and then start to charge new members.

If this is not feasible I'd like to encourage those who have a little to spare to go ahead and contribute. A little here, a little there, and among the thousands and tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of members, there will be enough to maintain the project.

When and if my situation changes, you can bet your sweet bippy, I'll be among the contributors.



Stay crunchy.



- fil

[THE eXchanger]

there are a lot of questions here,
that are still "pending"
lifting up a link, that has potential !!!

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

[THE REAL JOHN DOE]

Much Respect.

Keep The Fire Burning.

Peace From Dublin.

J.D.:trumpet:

[Frank Samuel]

Those of us that can could send a little more $ , I feel it is not wise to close the site to those less fortunate. I know that operation cost with the prices going up and a crumbling economy is not easy. But I am sure that with this project avalon phenomena, ask and it shall be given, knock and the door will be open. No worries mate !!! The opportunities come ah knocking !!!
Love and peace to all:biggrin2:

[Liberty]

How funny! There is one in every crowd. Consider the source and let it go :original:

[ranma187]

I'm sorry. But I am deadly poor. I want to contribute. Do you guys accept Donatons with Money Orders? I'm Canadian so sending you canadian cash through the mail would be pointless ( I used to buy rare japanese CD's via a friend in japan i would send her cash).

But yeah I can't tell you guys how happy I was to see my name on the pledge list!!! my name is Robert Lennox (look it up!!)

[Shellie]

I don't have a buck, but I do have a ton of time and I tend to pour my heart and soul into everything.

I can do administrative work or transcripts. But my passion is research!

[CONDE]

I don't have a buck, but I do have a ton of time and I tend to pour my heart and soul into everything.

I can do administrative work or transcripts. But my passion is research!

You have an awesome atitude !:thumb_yello:

[Caladan]

I thank Project Camelot for the work they are doing and it has really helped in my research.

I don't think it would be fair to close the doors to people who cannot spare any money. My own cost of living is on the rise and i can only just afford my own bills.

I know these sites cost money to run and I am thankful to those that can afford to donate to Bill and Kerry, but I'm sorry to say that if it became a a premium service I would no longer be a member here. I just don't agree with charging people for information.

[robbi3113]

Thanks for all you two do!
I followed your Work on Serpo before you let it go and followed you to Camelot, and now on to the third.
Thank you both for all the time and effort that you put into all you do to get info out there.

[Merlin]

Hi folks.

You must realise that not everyone has a credit card!
Please make sure there is a provision for those of us who have no such facilities.

Thanks,

Merlin.

[Shadowstalker]

I love being a round table member.
I always felt it important to stand for what I believe in and this helps...:thumb_yello:


Namaste-Matte:wub2:

[nibiru]

I´m in ... Translator is my interest...you can count with me...just tell me what and when...i´ll fulfill...
Thanks to all warriors of light for their commitment...
We will succeed !....

[Pomguymguy]

Wise words Mr. De Niro.
And yes, pay Pal and E-bay are the devil !

YES ! Just "Google" 'Is Pay Pal Corrupt ?'

It's all there...........:nono:
:shocked: