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QUESTINY
09-09-2008, 07:16 PM
I'm curious of everyone's opinion on the Chemtrail phenomena? If it is real, why are the spraying and for what purposes?





http://educate-yourself.org/cn/inside%20chemtrail%20plane1500w.jpg

peacelovinman
09-09-2008, 07:21 PM
Hi Questiny

Have been watching the trails for some time now though I wouldn't trust the picture you posted to be what it appears to be.

If the spraying is being done with a purpose, I'd suppose that the intention is weather control or population control.

However, I'm not 100% convinced that they are not just persistent contrails.

Hope I've helped!

PLM.

p.s. Cute avatar by the way, is that you?

Jacqui D
09-09-2008, 07:29 PM
I have to agree with you peacelovinman, these chemtrails are definately doing something.
probably poisoning the atmosphere and dumbing us down with these strange viruses that seem be popping up all over now you have to think don't you.
They put the fear out of disease then they want you to have yet another innoculation, it's all rubbish.
Years ago you never see these chemtrails why now?
There are definatley up to something that's for sure:mad3:

Newly_Awakened
09-09-2008, 07:29 PM
I must say, that is one interesting photograph you have posted there. Where by chance did you find that Questiny?

unlimited mind
09-09-2008, 07:54 PM
Hi Questiny
However, I'm not 100% convinced that they are not just persistent contrails.


i am quite certain they are not persistent contrails. i have spent many days on top of 6000 ft peaks taking pictures and watching these planes race back and forth across the sky, i have seen them turn around for the next 'line', and most of the time there are at least 2-3 planes working the same area. they fly at different altitudes, and often put one layer right on top of the other.

i am not sure why any passenger plane would be doing these kinds of manuevers, so contrails seem a bit naive. there is no reason for the flight patterns, as they are often not the usual routes passenger planes take.

i have called my city commissioners as well as the local airport to find out WHY these planes are flying at the low altitudes they are, why are they racing back and forth. the airport denies their existence, so that right there tells me that something is not at all in the highest or best good of the people on the ground. the commissioners i have contacted have yet to return any of my messages about this one issue, where all the other things i inquire about seem to get pretty fast responses.

this has been going on for over 10 years now, and people literally have seen this stuff in the atmosphere for so long that they think it is normal. this is part of the problem.

as with all other issues in our social consciousness, knowledge and truth is at the core of our collective need.

the cocktail they are spraying, based on independent testing, has been quite alarming. barium salt, aluminum oxide, plasma, nano virus', molds and fungus' are all quite a wallop to a any living organisms cellular mass.

if these are accurate results, then the evidence is pretty solid that the cocktail is designed to first place limitations on the functionality of our brain by limiting the way it is able to perform. both barium and aluminum are heavy metals and both are destructive to the central nervous system.

everything else is designed to take advantage of the decrease of needed hormones that the brain provides to the cellular mass, thus further debilitating the immune system. the body stays in a mode of repair due to the need to try and get it out of the body mass, but these chemicals actually hinder that process. and that is why so many people now have auto immune diseases, their immune systems are over taxed from the environmental toxins.

now add fluoride in the water to that mix, and you will see that the chemical reactions that are occurring in the body are literally destroying healthy minds and bodies, the immune system, and having staggering effects on the DNA and the information that is created when it replicates.

it is definitely steeped in karma no matter how you look at it.

JesterTerrestrial
09-09-2008, 08:17 PM
I like the safety tape on the hose. Don't want anyone getting hurt when were trying to kill everyone...with CHEMTRAILS! What a mess.

Oneness
09-09-2008, 08:56 PM
I've looked into this a bit myself. Besides the negative impact on our physical bodies, I understood that the new energetic frequency emanating from our sun is being blocked by the bad guys. This frequency that is to carry us into fourth dimensional awareness is being dulled, to buy these people more time. They don't want people to wake up.

:lightsabre:

Theresa
09-09-2008, 09:02 PM
Thanks for the rationality, Unlimited. Chemtrails are most definitely for real and most definitely on purpose.

In addition to the list that Unlimited posted regarding the contents of chemtrails, I also read on PCamelot that they create a "plasma" carrier for HAARP beams for direct targeting.

When I channeled about chemtrials, spirit said they are "poisoning you", meaning us. But it's all part of the ascension process. I think also keep our bodies as clean as possible with good food, enough sleep, exercise, no dumb tv, etc, and that will help. I notice the minute I step out of line with my diet (especially sugar and dairy) I start getting symptoms (allergy or cold). Just sharin'....

peacelovinman
09-09-2008, 09:16 PM
Good, considered post by unlimited. I think you are close to the truth.

I have really only noticed the trails over the last 1 to 2 years and rarely see the planes that leave them. Air traffic is busy over here anyway as Stansted is 30 odd miles away.

unlimited mind
09-09-2008, 09:16 PM
Thanks for the rationality, Unlimited. Chemtrails are most definitely for real and most definitely on purpose.

In addition to the list that Unlimited posted regarding the contents of chemtrails, I also read on PCamelot that they create a "plasma" carrier for HAARP beams for direct targeting.

When I channeled about chemtrials, spirit said they are "poisoning you", meaning us. But it's all part of the ascension process. I think also keep our bodies as clean as possible with good food, enough sleep, exercise, no dumb tv, etc, and that will help. I notice the minute I step out of line with my diet (especially sugar and dairy) I start getting symptoms (allergy or cold). Just sharin'....


indeed, all of these explanations are just part of the triad of destruction here. each layer has it's own specific purpose. HAARP is most certainly involved, and i agree that there is probably an element of deflecting cosmic rays as well, since they would be exciting our mid brains.

i try to detox my body at least every 6 months these days, and eat a lot of food that keeps that process going.

many thanks for everyone's perspective and awareness

JesterTerrestrial
09-09-2008, 09:20 PM
What Chemtrails Really Are

http://www.rense.com/general79/chem.htm

They spray barium powders and let it photo-ionize from the ultraviolet light of the sun. Then, they make an aluminum-plasma generated by "zapping" the metal cations that are in the spray with either electromagnetics from HAARP, the gyrotron system on the ground [Ground Wave Emergency Network], or space-based lasers. The barium makes the aluminum-plasma more particulate dense. This means they can make a denser plasma than they normally could from just ionizing the atmosphere or the air.

More density [more particles] means that these particles which are colliding into each other will become more charged because there are more of them present to collide. What are they ultimately trying to do up there -- is create charged-particle, plasma beam weapons.
Chemtrails are the medium - GWEN pulse radars, the various HAARPs, and space-based lasers are the method, or more simply:

Chemtrails are the medium -- directed energy is the method.

Spray and Zap.

Hiram
09-09-2008, 09:43 PM
What Chemtrails Really Are

http://www.rense.com/general79/chem.htm

They spray barium powders and let it photo-ionize from the ultraviolet light of the sun. Then, they make an aluminum-plasma generated by "zapping" the metal cations that are in the spray with either electromagnetics from HAARP, the gyrotron system on the ground [Ground Wave Emergency Network], or space-based lasers. The barium makes the aluminum-plasma more particulate dense. This means they can make a denser plasma than they normally could from just ionizing the atmosphere or the air.

More density [more particles] means that these particles which are colliding into each other will become more charged because there are more of them present to collide. What are they ultimately trying to do up there -- is create charged-particle, plasma beam weapons.
Chemtrails are the medium - GWEN pulse radars, the various HAARPs, and space-based lasers are the method, or more simply:

Chemtrails are the medium -- directed energy is the method.

Spray and Zap.


This is the most accurate description. For years we attempted to utilize Laser's but they are not effective at extremely long range through atmosphere due to interference. Particle Beams suplanted lasers as the technology of choice. In order to fire the particle beam we needed a plasma-metallic soup with which to work. Thus you fill the atmosphere with barium and Aluminium Sulfide and oila!

You can also use it to bring down ANY AIRBORNE OBJECT by cranking up the level of energy. Raindancer....Cloverleaf.

Radio itself can be nullified or amplified similar to the effects of a Solar Storm.
Weather can be controlled by selectively heating and cooling various areas.


This is very dangerous stuff. I would compare its effects on the Earth to somone selectively shocking part of your body with electricity. I would not be surprised if the Earth is getting somewhat ****** about this...if she were even capable of that negativity.

argonacon
09-09-2008, 09:58 PM
i dont know where he got the photo but i did see that photo with some other photos of "the insides of a chemtrail sprayer" on a vdeo on youtube once.

as for the trails, i've read about them a ton. i really like to say i only fully believe things that i can prove without a shadow of a doubt. I've heard all the theories and everything else on what they are and why they're doing it and have a few theories of my own, outside of the normal "weather control" explanation.

what i can say for certain is that they exist. there's something going on where jets are spraying something in the atmosphere and it seems to be happening all over the world right now. or at least in alot of places. this is being done without our consent or knowledge. that is all i know for sure.

however, this summer i spent most of it outside in a wide valley working on ground crops there. there were several days where there was heavy spraying and i saw some very interesting and odd cloud formations and cloud behavior shortly after the spraying. that would make me lean to think that it has a haarp or weather control purpose. but i dont know this for certain. i also believe that it may have more than one purpose. another thing i was thinking it might be is to help create an atmosphere that will allow holographic projections. this ties in with dr deagles comments on the military industrial complex working on an exact digital replica of the planet. to play out a kind of video game movie false flag alien invasion maybe? i dunno....there are a few other testimonies that point ot this being possibility.

however, there is so much disinformation out there. you never know what is the truth and what is planted ideas. like i said, all i know is that there is spraying going on, for sure. i am one hundred and ten percent convinced.

Alysse
09-09-2008, 10:03 PM
My husband is in the jet business. I'll have him look at this photo and see if he is aware of anything that might be relevant

Hiram
09-09-2008, 10:24 PM
The photo is NOT of a chemtrails plane.

It is the photo of a jetcraft about to undergo inertial testing. The barrels are full of water, and a type of oil. As the jet manuvers the computers analys the internial effects on the fluids. Looks scary though doesn't it?

orwellsbud
09-09-2008, 10:39 PM
This is the most accurate description. For years we attempted to utilize Laser's but they are not effective at extremely long range through atmosphere due to interference. Particle Beams suplanted lasers as the technology of choice. In order to fire the particle beam we needed a plasma-metallic soup with which to work. Thus you fill the atmosphere with barium and Aluminium Sulfide and oila!

You can also use it to bring down ANY AIRBORNE OBJECT by cranking up the level of energy. Raindancer....Cloverleaf.

Radio itself can be nullified or amplified similar to the effects of a Solar Storm.
Weather can be controlled by selectively heating and cooling various areas.


This is very dangerous stuff. I would compare its effects on the Earth to somone selectively shocking part of your body with electricity. I would not be surprised if the Earth is getting somewhat ****** about this...if she were even capable of that negativity.


I totally concur, this is by far the most accurate description for chemtrails and their purpose;with the added bonus of poisoning us all. The implication that chemtrails act to build a plasma based amplifying field in my opinion is spot on. I think HAARP and it's more sinister aspects are demonstrated in this a rather disturbing O2 advert from Eastern Europe I found on youtube...not quite sure about the accent. Please check it out, and note the chemtrails at the beginning and the hooded 'zombies' taking part. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DtB0IzTi3Dw&feature=PlayList&p=A8A03AB63A3907F9&index=43

Peace & Blessings
OB:)

eagle
09-09-2008, 11:32 PM
Teller's trails?

Yes, they are real. The question is do they contain more than just jet fuel by products?

Congress should definitely hold hearings on the jet pollution, if nothing else.

The lack of those hearings is "Tell"ing.

Or perhaps they are convergence of Teller and Haarp?

---My Conjecture below

I believe the trails appeared soon after 1996, when we had soaring heat and dry weather. These trails are the only thing keeping the world from turning into a desert.

Now you have cooling this Summer - but geez, I have never seen so many trails. Sun spot count is low, why don't they stop the trailing? Why? Because they can't. If they did, we'd still have a desert.

Loonix
09-09-2008, 11:43 PM
The picture you posted was one of a few 'chemtrail' plane pics discussed @ AboveTopSecret http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread361608/pg1 the conclusion if I recall correctly without rereading the full thread was that it is a photoshopped version of this http://www.airliners.net/photo/Boeing/Boeing-777-240-LR/0855967/L/

That being said - I firmly believe someone is spraying our skies for some reason....

TheGhost
09-09-2008, 11:55 PM
Soon after chemtrails started happening 24/7 (probably about 9 or 10 years ago now) I mentioned them to my brother. He responded with something to the effect, 'What are you talking about? Contrails have always been like that.'

I realised then just how distracted most people are by daily life that they don't even notice a major change in the sky above their heads like chemtrails. It never enters their mind to question it because they probably never noticed there was anything different!

Chemtrails are real and I'm sure they have many applications. One that disturbs me the most is when there is a dark line in the sky and the plane lays down a chemtrail along this dark line. I have seen it many times and photographed and videoed it happening.

What the dark line in the sky is, I don't know, but presumably it is an EM energy beam or particle beam of some sort; possbly used simply as a marker if there needs to be an especially accurate chemtrail laid down or maybe something more.

Maybe some insider could clue us in a bit more on this subject. It seems to be one area where NO-ONE ever really wants to say very much. I was told, however, that at the recent Beyond Knowledge conference in Liverpool (in May) there was planned to be a guy who knew about chemtrails come and give a talk but he was seriously threatened and had to pull out.

If anyone want me to upload my chemtrail pics n vids to conspiracy central, or wherever, let me know.

monica
09-09-2008, 11:59 PM
Chemtrail Alert System http://www.owsweather.com/contrailreport.html

Loonix
09-10-2008, 12:01 AM
If anyone want me to upload my chemtrail pics n vids to conspiracy central, or wherever, let me know.

I'd love to see these pics =)

QUESTINY
09-10-2008, 12:02 AM
I'd love to see these pics =)

Share as much as you want. Pics and Vids.

Theresa
09-10-2008, 12:21 AM
Also, I've noticed within an hour or so of heavy spraying there are tiny, sticky homogenous particles on cars. So whatever sludge is in those sprays are definitely heavy enough to settle to ground level pretty quickly.

So, I have a question (and thanks Hiram for the excellent technical explanation), WHY do they want to create plasma generators for these weapons/technology? And why some days and not others? Are they constantly directing EMF's onto us?

Also, I have seen the black line that precedes some planes while spraying, many times. Everyone I know is either hostile to my pointing them out or just "checks out", and can't process what they are hearing/seeing. THAT is more astounding to me than the fact that they are even happening.

I first noticed them in 1999, driving with my son in the car seat one summer evening. How is it that billions of people go about their daily business and are so checked out they can't even acknowledge how unnatural and wrong the chemtrail spraying is???

Myra
09-10-2008, 12:28 AM
Yes.

Weather modification, population control, and I believe sometimes also used concurrently with HAARP.

Alysse
09-10-2008, 12:30 AM
My husband concurs. It is flight test aircraft due to all the flgiht test equipment in racks in the back of the plane. He has had flight test equipment installed in aircraft before so it is familiar to him.The photo is NOT of a chemtrails plane.

It is the photo of a jetcraft about to undergo inertial testing. The barrels are full of water, and a type of oil. As the jet manuvers the computers analys the internial effects on the fluids. Looks scary though doesn't it?

pineal-pilot-in merkabah
09-10-2008, 12:35 AM
the planes spraying round here at 40 to 50 a day from july all the way to spetemebr were small propp, white unmarked planes. see my pics on my profile.. everyone i know complained of sore throat tickly cough and tiredness.. i suffered these effects also. baruim and aluminium as far as i can gather is what it in the uk version of these all day long lasting trails.

pineal-pilot-in merkabah
09-10-2008, 12:37 AM
sticky globs are barium hydroxide. baruim reacts with water and has a quite high specif ic gravity..

Dominic
09-10-2008, 01:08 AM
100% Real. We are being sprayed like bugs. I get a bad cough when they spray the sky heavy. I have called my congressman. Build a chemtrailbuster They Work.

Trickyfingers
09-10-2008, 01:37 AM
Yes, they are real. The question is do they contain more than just jet fuel by products?

Congress should definitely hold hearings on the jet pollution, if nothing else.

The lack of those hearings is "Tell"ing.


They did have hearings on it (in 2001) however , not many people sit and watch the Senate and House hearings. Not to mention that all this happens when most people are at work and wouldn't be able to see it anyway. Unfortunately, national media doesn't think these types of topics are important enough to cover.

http://www.carnicom.com/hr2977.htm

http://www.rense.com/general19/ex.htm

http://www.carnicom.com/conright.htm

Thats why I'm using orgone devices, chembusters (another type of orgone) and pyrimids to either eliminate the chemtrails that are in my area or blow/push them away depending on how heavy/dense they are.

Thought I'd share.

novicemonk
09-10-2008, 02:24 AM
Hello everyone....this if my first post and I thought I might be able to offer some interesting info on this topic. My step brother works for the USAF and he has personally been involved in flying the planes spraying these "Chemtrails"... He was told by his superior officers that the purpose of the spraying is to "stop global warming"....

I have spent a great deal of time recording contrails and chemtrails then comparing the footage, and I am currently editing a video that will hopefully shed some light on the subject.

In the mean time, I advise you to simply set out some petree dishes (saucers, etc.), collect some samples, and observe what ends up in your samples...if you've got some time and a little cash, you could even get them analyzed by a lab. Try the first dish on a clear day, then the second on a day when you see plenty of chemtrail cover....you'll soon see for yourself.

SedonaStardust
09-10-2008, 03:01 AM
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind and soul that these are not only real, but are a very deliberate, pre-planned, and very diabotical effort on the part of a very large and powerful group. I have been observing and following this phenomena for over ten years in Arizona as well as other parts of our country...it exists elsewhere in our world as well. Dianne Harvey, an absolutely superb writer from Sedona did an excellent job of reporting on this subject and many others on Rense.com before she disappeared from public view. (Bless you, Dianne, wherever you are now) Her articles from Rense can still be found by using her name on search engines. Contrails disappear within minutes....chemtrails spread their sickening products which have been well reported on out in long lasting "cloud" cover....which drifts down covering plant, animal, insect, and human life. I have been given insight that this atrocious "film" has contributed to the demise of our forests...and well as covering the delicate and gossamer wings of our bees, dragonflies, and butterfly wings. Hive disorder collapse? How about outright extermination? My "logical" mind can immediately compute the costs of such an elaborate operation...how many millions (billions-trillions) of dollars does it take to send the numbers of planes that criss cross skies days after day worldwide...and my biggest question of all is JUST WHO is funding this mammoth monstrosity???? (Always follow the money) It's always denial, until a few brave souls come forth. Sedona, Arizona has been blanketed by heavy chemtrail spaying for a very long time, as well as many major cities. On November 9th, 2007, mid afternoon, while driving to Cottonwood after an intense day of spraying, the clouds laid in 3 distinctive levels---one below the cloud level, one mountain level, and one ground level....which was so heavy it looked like a forest fire...literally....smoke.....but not. You could see it...you could taste it. Vivid recall on this one...and I knew what it was because I was aware of what was going on from sunrise....continual spraying. You would have to first understand that in Sedona, with the existing wind currents that sweep through this valley on a daily basis--that our skies are a beautiful and clear blue when not "messed with". It truly has occured to me that in these days of reported "population contol" and "probable pandemics" that the wise and aware folk may look to the skies....and wonder why so many of the microbiologists of our world have been so mysteriously with an odds number that is numerically impossible--been taken out. (undeniably been murdered- see Rense.com again on side panels you scroll down.) There have been an incredible amount of newbies to your much needed new site--and they are asking what and how to "discern". Simply stated, discernment means that when some new information enters your awareness realm or auric field, be it through seeing, reading, feeling, or knowing--it rings true or it doesn't. Is it a lie--or is it truth...it is a resonance...a bell ringing... that I (you) need to file this piece of information away for reference...either now...or for a future reference. Go beyond the known five senses...and trust you will be led to growth and truth. Blessings, SedonaStardust

Lt Ripley
09-10-2008, 03:06 AM
Hi guys,

For anyone in Melbourne, Australia: have a look outside, in particular the area around the CBD.

There are several chemtrail "clouds" hanging about which are slowly starting to clear.

whitecrow
09-10-2008, 03:23 AM
Hello, I'm a newbie here. Here's as good a place as any to jump in. I have been observing, photographing and researching chemtrails for several years. I am quite sure they are part of a military weather-control system, and other things besides. However, the photo posted above is NOT a chemtrail-spraying rig. I followed up on that one last year...it's an installation that is part of the airworthiness testing of every aircraft before it is certified for service. Those tanks aren't big enough for chemtrail spraying. They hold water, and the system pumps water from one area of the plane to another to test its airworthiness under unstable load conditions.

whitecrow

MargueriteBee
09-10-2008, 03:38 AM
I read about chemtrails and then seeing them overhead was quite a shock and is part of my awakening to what is going on in this strange world. I wonder how many others this has happened to. A lot I hope! Somethings don't always go as planned.:winksmiley02:

eagle
09-10-2008, 04:49 PM
Hello everyone....this if my first post and I thought I might be able to offer some interesting info on this topic. My step brother works for the USAF and he has personally been involved in flying the planes spraying these "Chemtrails"... He was told by his superior officers that the purpose of the spraying is to "stop global warming"....

I have spent a great deal of time recording contrails and chemtrails then comparing the footage, and I am currently editing a video that will hopefully shed some light on the subject.

In the mean time, I advise you to simply set out some petree dishes (saucers, etc.), collect some samples, and observe what ends up in your samples...if you've got some time and a little cash, you could even get them analyzed by a lab. Try the first dish on a clear day, then the second on a day when you see plenty of chemtrail cover....you'll soon see for yourself.

Still, now that the Sunspots have disappeared, the cooling will begin.

Why have they not ceased?

In my location, this was a very cool Summer. Dry in the last 2 months, but cool.

I have noticed the last 2-3 Summers have been quite cool. Compared to the previous 7 years, which were scorching hot.

orwellsbud
09-10-2008, 05:25 PM
I have put my some chemtrail pics in my album on my profile if anyone would like to check them out. This video was taken the morning after the UK earthquake in February of this year. The skies on the previous day were just as full of chemtrails more so actually. It made me wonder if there wasn't a connection? something more to this quake than what we we're told. Chemtrails=HAARP=Earthquake, I don't know? but I'm sure this is no mere coincidence. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=smKLV25xM-g

OB:smoke:

QUESTINY
09-10-2008, 06:03 PM
Hello everyone....this if my first post and I thought I might be able to offer some interesting info on this topic. My step brother works for the USAF and he has personally been involved in flying the planes spraying these "Chemtrails"... He was told by his superior officers that the purpose of the spraying is to "stop global warming"....

I have spent a great deal of time recording contrails and chemtrails then comparing the footage, and I am currently editing a video that will hopefully shed some light on the subject.

In the mean time, I advise you to simply set out some petree dishes (saucers, etc.), collect some samples, and observe what ends up in your samples...if you've got some time and a little cash, you could even get them analyzed by a lab. Try the first dish on a clear day, then the second on a day when you see plenty of chemtrail cover....you'll soon see for yourself.

This is the official response. What is promising is that they admit to the spraying. Thank you for posting this.

QUESTINY
09-10-2008, 06:04 PM
I have put my some chemtrail pics in my album on my profile if anyone would like to check them out. This video was taken the morning after the UK earthquake in February of this year. The skies on the previous day were just as full of chemtrails more so actually. It made me wonder if there wasn't a connection? something more to this quake than what we we're told. Chemtrails=HAARP=Earthquake, I don't know? but I'm sure this is no mere coincidence. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=smKLV25xM-g

OB:smoke:

Great post thank you! I like the poem.

orwellsbud
09-10-2008, 08:05 PM
Great post thank you! I like the poem.

Hi Questiny, great thread you started. I have a real bee in my bonnet when it comes to chemtrails, because they are there in front of your face and people still wont accept their reality. Even though the MOD here in the UK admitted to a Guardian journalist that they had done it in the past, but couldn't possibly comment on ongoing operations? :mfr_lol: I used to photograph them daily, but it's become such the norm spraying everyday and night (when I suspect the more intense spraying is carried out) I haven't bothered for a while.

I have noticed however, that the spraying operations over the last couple of months are being carried out at higher and higher altitudes. Thank you for your kind words regarding my poem by the way. There's more like that on my site if you'd like to read more from Tales from the Apocalypse :winksmiley02:

Peace & Blessings
OB:smoke:

Hiram
09-11-2008, 12:25 AM
Concerning the Dark black line in front of Chemical sprayers....some kind of projecting field? Perhaps.

To be quite honest I believe it is an optical illusion. You are looking at a bright white line of chemtrail contrasted against a dark blue sky backround and you binocular vision has a hard time adjusting to the contrasting shades.

Its like looking at one of those black and white checkered eye illusion photos where at every white intersection you see dark spots...even though they are really pure white.




I know its not romantic...chemtrails ARE real.....just a thought about the dark line.

Loonix
09-11-2008, 01:48 AM
Hello everyone....this if my first post..

Welcome =)

My step brother works for the USAF and he has personally been involved in flying the planes spraying these "Chemtrails"... He was told by his superior officers that the purpose of the spraying is to "stop global warming"....

I suspect that would have to be a standard line spun to the crews manning these planes however if that was so and the spraying was to our benefit then I would expect the MOD to come forward and tell the populations that this is what we are doing and why we are doing it. Thier failure to do so speaks volumes.

QUESTINY
09-11-2008, 01:51 AM
Yes.

Weather modification, population control, and I believe sometimes also used concurrently with HAARP.

You may want to read my post on "What do 81 Dead Scientists have in Common?" This is the desired population reduction scheme. The Powers that Be consider this to be the most optimal without causing to much collateral damage to the environment and resources. Not to mention they have the cure to project their sorry butts.

atom.Man
09-11-2008, 06:34 PM
i am quite certain they are not persistent contrails. i have spent many days on top of 6000 ft peaks taking pictures and watching these planes race back and forth across the sky...

interesting read. ever see them at night? would also love to see video of a plane spraying a pattern (actually turning ~180 and continue to spray). i still linger on the question that they may be used to block sunlight, thus have an effect on the warming and subsequent cooling of the earth (which i believe has little to nothing to do with C02 -- other planets are warming as well according to what i've read).

if aerosol trails CAN be seen at night, especially in the early evening just after it gets dark, then i would tend to think they are not for effecting climate change, at least not as far as blocking sunlight.

Orion Morris
09-11-2008, 06:46 PM
You can search on the internet and find government documents calling it "cloud seeding." They have admitted it in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, saying that it will increase precipitation during the winter seasons and make the tourist season longer. They have been "seeding" the couds for some time now. Of course I am sure that what ever they are seeding the couds with is not good, weather it be barium or whatever. I have heard of making organites or cloud busters.

JSErwine
09-11-2008, 08:46 PM
Early june or so, there was a quick blurb about a report in Russia.

A report that a bag of "cement" fell from one of these planes and crashed through some persons house.

When the Russian governemnt was asked what this was they replied that they were trying to help the weather.

This was reported by Michael Reagan (I'm pretty sure) durring his daily propaganda show, it was the only report I heard.

If some one wanted to take the time to go back and listen to this guys archives I'm sure it's there. Again this took place end of May or early June.

As far as your Pic, some guy commented that these are some sort of ballast sytem used on the larger airliners.

/salute

Jeff

pilot
09-11-2008, 09:58 PM
Don't like chemtrails and wanna do something about it?? Build yourself an orgone generator-they work.

I built one and it has been standing in the middle of my backyard since Feb of last year. After I put it out there-I noticed a change-the trails dissipated very quickly and they no longer leave cloud cover like before. I live about 200 miles from 3 major airports that crisscross my area daily. I had many , many very frustrating back and forths with chemtrail debunkers on that other site and they could not convince me with their arguments that I was seeing "contrails".

anyway check this out-
http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster_&_orgone_generator.html

It's lots of fun to build one, like a science project!

JSErwine
09-11-2008, 10:22 PM
"In the mean time, I advise you to simply set out some petree dishes (saucers, etc.), collect some samples, and observe what ends up in your samples...if you've got some time and a little cash, you could even get them analyzed by a lab. Try the first dish on a clear day, then the second on a day when you see plenty of chemtrail cover....you'll soon see for yourself."


There is only one problem with this test. Every day there are god knows how many foriegn objects that enter our atmosphere from outer space, plus all the various air born "trash" from our own enviroment. The contamination would be near impossible to sort through.

I think there are groups of people testing water sources, and they have found proof of high barium counts in some of these tests. I know they are doing some water tests in cedar falls, I.A., though this is most likely to check for farm chemicals (IMO).


/salute

jeff

Kris Riley
09-12-2008, 01:24 AM
In Alaska where they do extensive spraying over Anchorage and the surrounding vicinity. People, once woken up to the reality are reporting being sickened by strange flu type symptoms corresponding to the spraying. I worked for the network tv there as a photojournalist and recorded many different scenes of either spraying or strange explosions in the sky. Including flaming pieces of unknown origin. I alerted a lot of people within the news to it and everyone though I was just crazy for ufos. Now I'm glad to be out of that loop and sharing thoughts with people who listen. I also tried numerous times to get an insider story about HAARP technology which is based in Alaska. Once again, some though it was a good idea, but weren't willing to lift a finger towards the funding of the trip or the time it would take to do a decent story about it. A person named Dr. Nick Begich (http://www.earthpulse.com) offers this website which links to a lot of other info to HAARP. Chem-trails are really not a concern of a lot of people including scientific groups, arguing there is volcanoes spewing way more carbon into the atmosphere than a zillion jets combined. As others have said, people are really involved with other things, besides noticing the subtle things going on around them. I wouldn't consider chem trails subtle, but pretty obvious to anyone who pays attention to the skys.

JSErwine
09-12-2008, 04:19 AM
What time of year were you seeing these, or is it something you have been seeing for longer than the last few months on a constant basis?

unlimited mind
09-12-2008, 04:44 AM
In Alaska where they do extensive spraying over Anchorage and the surrounding vicinity. People, once woken up to the reality are reporting being sickened by strange flu type symptoms corresponding to the spraying. I worked for the network tv there as a photojournalist and recorded many different scenes of either spraying or strange explosions in the sky. Including flaming pieces of unknown origin. I alerted a lot of people within the news to it and everyone though I was just crazy for ufos. Now I'm glad to be out of that loop and sharing thoughts with people who listen. I also tried numerous times to get an insider story about HAARP technology which is based in Alaska. Once again, some though it was a good idea, but weren't willing to lift a finger towards the funding of the trip or the time it would take to do a decent story about it. A person named Dr. Nick Begich (http://www.earthpulse.com) offers this website which links to a lot of other info to HAARP. Chem-trails are really not a concern of a lot of people including scientific groups, arguing there is volcanoes spewing way more carbon into the atmosphere than a zillion jets combined. As others have said, people are really involved with other things, besides noticing the subtle things going on around them. I wouldn't consider chem trails subtle, but pretty obvious to anyone who pays attention to the skys.

in january and feburary of this year, the local hospitals had to quarantine (this might not be the right word) all hospitals in asheville. no visitors were allowed. at that same time this area was being sprayed at least 5 out of every 7 days. i sent links with chem trail information to all of my city commisioners and asked them to look into this. the local airport here denies that they are in the skies. coo coo!

it seems that the only way to do anything these days is thru grassroots politics. and at this point the most prudent thing to do is to acknowledge this activity is taking place and then get down to protecting ourselves from the madness.

the independent tests that have been done show that everyone needs to be detoxing their bodies of heavy metals and fungi/molds. magic mineral is suppose to do a great job with detoxing this stuff.

i see birds flying around now with their wing feathers in such a mess, some missing, others caked with something i have not identified. lots of defoliation with the tips of trees as well, much more than i have noticed, since i bagan noticing 15 years ago.

it is a good topic to discuss here, as i have read in some of the replies where they were unaware of this stuff.

stal
09-12-2008, 09:34 AM
heres my two cents.
i live and work in outback australia (western nsw) on a sheep and cattle station, and have spent several years watching both con and chemtrails. imo there is a huge difference between them. some days the entire sky is covered, and there is a lot of sky here on the plains. a specific example would be the day before the huge storm that hit melbourne earlier this year while prime minister kevin rudd was doing his first state visit to the US. a demonstration perhaps....

Trickyfingers
09-12-2008, 01:20 PM
In Alaska where they do extensive spraying over Anchorage and the surrounding vicinity. People, once woken up to the reality are reporting being sickened by strange flu type symptoms corresponding to the spraying. .

Your absolutely right about the people getting sick, they are hitting us VERY hard up here and then using HAARP to cause the scalar clouds we see everyday and the news weather person is calling them gravity clouds- can you believe that???? Never was tought about gravity clouds in school- have you? They just put in the newspaper the other day that this was the coldest summer we've ever had.

Yes, they do spray at night here also all the time.


Anyways, as I've stated in other posts, I too have alot of orgones devices that keeps the chemtrails, negative energies etc away from our vicinity and keeps us from getting sick which I'm very greatful for :original: .

fairangel
09-13-2008, 02:44 AM
I am in definite agreement that Chemtrails are part of HAARP, weather control, depopulation, environmental degradation, Electromagnetic soup for whatever they have that we don't know about. They have patterns, and I have seen them for years and years. Even in movies you can see them. Contrails are merely ice crystals which dissipate quickly. These things hang around for a long time, whiting out the sky, stopping rainfall, and probably steering and controlling the strength of hurricanes. They do make you sick. Arizona Skywatch has the lab results of the metals in them, and others have reported fiber webs containing dessicated blood cells, stealth pathogens, fungi, molds and other serious biohazards. Eye infections are a new problem. Morgellons is still being investigated. I also believe they are directly killing some plant life, including trees and edibles. They do get into our water systems, and the combination of fluoride and aluminum can cross your blood/ brain barrier. We do have an epidemic of Dementias, Multiple Sclerosis, Lou Gehrig's disease, Type II diabetes, Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue, Gulf War syndrome, and autoimmune diseases. Chemtrails are lately sprayed at night, and over the tops of storm fronts. Protecting your immune system is really important right now. We are lucky if we have a day or two of blue sky! I have been researching these for about 4 years now, and they just seem to get worse.

JesterTerrestrial
09-13-2008, 03:05 AM
Earth - the sickest planet in the milky way?

So whats it going to take to stop this? Its obvious that its happening. Even if its just contrails its still pollution and destroys the natural beauty of the sky.

Where the bleep is anti-gravity?!

Today I wish/manifest an end to this madness of chemtrails on my planet.

:mfr_omg: I SEE BLUE SKIES...and anti-gravity propulsion for everyone. :thumb_yello:

giovonni
09-13-2008, 03:17 AM
Please note; there is a weather forecast site (owsweather.com) from Ontario, Southern California, that has a daily tracking map for North America (and now also Europe) on chemtrail -flow current locations. I have been monitoring the site for a few weeks, and have definitely noticed frequent sinus and throat problem symptoms, along with pain and joint stiffness within my body- on days with high and highest alert conditions. Check the site out, for it covers a multitude of interesting weather conditions and phenomenon.
giovonni

manda
09-13-2008, 03:24 AM
Hi guys,

For anyone in Melbourne, Australia: have a look outside, in particular the area around the CBD.

There are several chemtrail "clouds" hanging about which are slowly starting to clear.

Hi
We Had a web of trails over Canberra This morning.
manda

manda
09-13-2008, 03:28 AM
100% Real. We are being sprayed like bugs. I get a bad cough when they spray the sky heavy. I have called my congressman. Build a chemtrailbuster They Work.

Hey would you point me to directions for a chemtrailbuster.
Thanks
Manda

Norval
09-13-2008, 03:45 AM
From what I have looked at there was enough to convince me that there is a very high probability they are real. What, when, where , and why is still full of possibilities.

THE eXchanger
09-13-2008, 04:22 AM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

manda
09-13-2008, 04:45 AM
Here in Australis its openly called cloud seeding.
read between the lines of these sites..
its totally ok for economic reasons oh and of course for rain.. its been happening here since 1947..
I dont believe they are using silver either.. more like Aluminium..
I read somewhere that the residues are impacting the eco system and are traceable. So common sense prevails in all our experiences.

Break out the Chemtrailbusters



Cloud seeding In the Snowy
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/22/2343417.htm
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/nsw-extends-cloud-seeding-for-snowy-mountains/9746
http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/basic/events/cloudseeding/NSW_DEC_SCA_cloudseeding_report31Jan2007.pdf
http://www.thredbo.com.au/weather-and-conditions/snow-depth-chart/cloud-seeding.asp
Its affects may Linger
http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=EC45p3.pdf

pilot
09-14-2008, 02:14 AM
Don't like chemtrails and wanna do something about it?? Build yourself an orgone generator-they work.




http://www.metatech.org/cloudbuster_&_orgone_generator.html

It's lots of fun to build one, like a science project!


seriously you guys these WORK. it's easy and fun and it is better than watching the skies helplessly being polluted with that crap.

go for it

BTW it is not necessary to use copper pipe- aluminum or any other kind is fine, copper is extemely expensive these days so don't let that stop you-the important ingredients are the metal shavings and crystals!! Also you can make smaller orgone devices in muffin pans and place them near cell phone towers. I made some and put them near the refinery where I live and all the cell towers in this town have been "busted".

QUESTINY
09-14-2008, 02:28 AM
seriously you guys these WORK. it's easy and fun and it is better than watching the skies helplessly being polluted with that crap.

go for it

BTW it is not necessary to use copper pipe- aluminum or any other kind is fine, copper is extemely expensive these days so don't let that stop you-the important ingredients are the metal shavings and crystals!! Also you can make smaller orgone devices in muffin pans and place them near cell phone towers. I made some and put them near the refinery where I live and all the cell towers in this town have been "busted".

Pilot thanks for the practical information. Are you aware of Morgellons Disease associated with Chemtrails?

John aka#404
09-14-2008, 03:34 AM
Share as much as you want. Pics and Vids.

I have some pics from here in Alberta and will work on them getting posted. The one of the "spade-shaped" hole within the "cloud" is pretty amazing.

EDIT: feel free to peruse my albums

-John aka#404

Bill Ryan
09-14-2008, 04:48 AM
Hi, Folks:

Here are two really interesting photos (one an enlargement of the other) of a chemtrail being sprayed by a disk-shaped 'black' aircraft over Colorado earlier this year.

http://projectcamelot.org/orb3norm.jpg

http://projectcamelot.org/orb3mag.jpg

Source: http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

John aka#404
09-14-2008, 05:03 AM
Bill.... that just made me speechless. I just got my pics uploaded and there is no way I can beat
that one. :)


----

I have created a few albums on my profile folks so take a look. For here I'd like to link to the photos
where I was taking a shot of the remnants of a trail that had spread and all of sudden a few seconds
later a hole appeared with the same.

* The "hand-shaped" craft also disappeared after I took the photo. :bleh:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=114&pictureid=759


http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=114&pictureid=756

Peter
09-14-2008, 08:35 AM
Good for you Pilot, Im on to it.
That photo of Bill's is something else, frightening.
Number 404, they're showing off making right angled holes in clouds, even more frightening.

Doom
09-14-2008, 08:37 AM
We get chemtrails like crazy here to. They are absolutely real.

www.californiaskywatch.com

The Discovery Channel Special entitled "Owning The Weather" (About Weather Modification) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8262483364410309502

NR23.net Alan Marsden's Website From deep in the Norwich GoldenTriangle
http://www.nr23.net/

MoD test of aerial spraying over Norwich
http://www.nr23.net/spray.htm

The Dorset Biological Warfare Experiments 1963-75
http://www.nr23.net/spray_dorset.htm

BBC Article - Inquiry into spray cancer claims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/4507036.stm

Thousands Exposed to Poison by Government's Aerial Spraying
http://www.naturalnews.com/022434.html

"Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025" PDF File (csat.au.af.mil) - Aug. 1996.
http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf

The effects of cadmium spraying over a city [Norwich, England] in the 1960s are to be investigated after claims that it was linked with cancer of the oesophagus. (Alan Watt : Norwich wasn't the only city to be sprayed by CHEMTRAILS since I can remember huge figure 8 and giant X's which lingered for many hours over parts of Scotland during this time period.)
See MSDS Toxicity Sheet for Cadmium
http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Cadmium-9923223


• OPEN SKIES TREATY - RELATED LINKS
You type in your browser:
Open Skies Treaty "Fact Sheet" from: Bureau of Arms Control - Washington, DC:
http://www.state.gov/t/ac/rls/fs/2004/33147.htm
Open Skies Consultative Commission:
http://www.osce.org/
Treaty on Open Skies (As a PDF File):
http://www.osce.org/item/13764.html



"The government says they don't exist, but Kucinich wants Congress to take action" by Bob Fitrakis, Columbus Alive (at globalresearch.ca) - Jan. 24, 2002.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/FIT203A.html
...
The debate surrounding the federal government's alleged weather modification experiments has landed in the U.S. Capitol, thanks to Cleveland Democrat Dennis Kucinich. Representative Kucinich introduced the Space Preservation Act of 2001 on October 2 last year, seeking a "permanent ban on [the] basing of weapons in space."

The bill, HR 2977, specifically outlaws a variety of weapons detailed in the December 6, 2001, Columbus Alive article "Stormy Weather," which exposed allegations of secret government aerial spraying activities. Kucinich's bill explicitly outlaws "chemtrails."

Alive asked Kucinich why he would introduce a bill banning so-called chemtrails when the U.S. government routinely denies such things exist and the U.S. Air Force has routinely called chemtrail sightings "a hoax."

"The truth is there's an entire program in the Department of Defense, 'Vision for 2020,' that's developing these weapons," Kucinich responded. Kucinich says he plans to reintroduce a broader version of the bill later this month. "Plasma, electromagnetics, sonic or ultrasonic weapons [and] laser weapons systems" were among those banned by HR 2977....


Peeping Through The Clouds (Chemtrail Detail)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d92uEoROvw

http://parallelnormal.com/2007/05/26/alaan-watt-cuts-through-a-puff-piece-about-clouds/
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/transcripts/Alan_Watt_Blurb_ParticlePropagandaFromNASA_May2520 07.html


Alan Watt discusses chemtrials on a daily basis,

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/chemtrails.html

http://homepage.mac.com/carolepellatt/MATRIX/INDEXCHEMTRAILS.html

http://homepage.mac.com/carolepellatt/superbowlsunday/PhotoAlbum275.html

here are a few links to ones which he discusses chemtrails:

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/CTTM/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_162_Tyranny_Dressed_in_Na tional_Glory__Whether_Labour__Liberal_or_Blue-Tied_Tory_Sept032008.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/Blurbs/Alan_Watt_Blurb_StopThisProgram_IWantToGetOff_June 132007.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/Blurbs/Alan_Watt_Blurb_CosmicCONscienceToSomaComa_June142 007.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/Blurbs/Alan_Watt_Blurb_SentientAsylum_for_a_DepravedNewWo rld_June272007.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/Blurbs/Alan_Watt_Blurb_Battle_of_the_Sentient_in_the_Age_ of_Aquarius_July192007.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/Blurbs/Alan_Watt_Blurb_Patriot_Games_the_Seer_Beneath_the _Fear_Oct252007.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/CTTM/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_152_We_re_Hit_with_Silent _Weapons_in_this_Quiet_War_Aug112008.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/CTTM/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_133_Food_is_a_Weapon_Say_ the_Ancient_of_Sages__Used_Over_and_Over_Down_thro ugh_the_Ages_June272008.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/CTTM/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_147_Pretty_Soon_therell_b e_a_Screen_Between_You_and_the_Partner_of_Your_Dre am_July302008.mp3

Doom
09-14-2008, 08:53 AM
here are just a few pics ive taken myself

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3850/im000365vn8.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/418/im000366jq5.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5861/im000368zo2.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5082/im000369zl4.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2057/im000370dh8.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5134/im000377sj3.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4359/im000385ya3.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/552/im000386xt5.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5200/im000388bq7.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8880/im000393mq9.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/784/im000394nz0.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2020/im000395sq0.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3841/img0017ck2.jpg

Kundaflower
09-14-2008, 02:44 PM
Hello beloveds..

Answer is yes...:mfr_omg:

Why ?

Dark reasons...for it is done behind the curtain...:lightsabre:

Any chance to succeed ?

No..:mad3:

Why ?

They do not count the power of few...:gathering:

Just relax and enjoy the ride:surfing:

Love and Peace

Kris Riley
09-14-2008, 02:48 PM
Heres a small collection that I could find off hand that I shot in Alaska over the past 2 years. Mostly all around the Anchorage Mat-Su Area.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_01-28-08007copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/01-28-08007copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_01-28-08008copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/01-28-08008copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_01-28-08031copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/01-28-08031copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_01-28-08032copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/01-28-08032copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_3-09-08019copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/3-09-08019copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_3-09-08020copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/3-09-08020copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_3-09-08021copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/3-09-08021copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_8-22-07089copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/8-22-07089copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_8-22-07090copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/8-22-07090copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_8-22-07091copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/8-22-07091copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_8-22-07092copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/8-22-07092copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_8-22-07093copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/8-22-07093copy.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/th_8-22-07104copy.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Sky%20Shots/8-22-07104copy.jpg)

Heres a few others that I witnesses happening. I didn't get my camera set up quick enough to get the very beginning of the explosion. It started as a small blackish dot and then did what you see below.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Misc%20Photos/th_Cloud2BFormation3.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Misc%20Photos/Cloud2BFormation3.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Misc%20Photos/th_Cloud2BFormation2.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Misc%20Photos/Cloud2BFormation2.jpg)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Misc%20Photos/th_Cloud2BFormation.jpg (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/kristopharian/Misc%20Photos/Cloud2BFormation.jpg)

pilot
09-15-2008, 05:54 AM
Pilot thanks for the practical information. Are you aware of Morgellons Disease associated with Chemtrails?


Hi Questiny,

Yes, I have read about Morgellons but have no direct contact with anyone who has suffered from it. I understand that physicians actually tried to convince people it was all in their minds...yeh

I've got little threads growing out of my skin, but I'm just imagining things, right doctor, thanks!

It seems to be associated with chemtrails but is there any definitive proof that it is the cause? I think they derseve the blame but that's just me. It's a very strange and creepy affliction, I feel for those poor folks who've had to deal with it. It must be awful.

Paramartasaya
09-15-2008, 12:50 PM
It is worse than what you think:shocked:

Read:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_morgellons08.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_morgellons04.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_geneticfood07.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_morgellons02.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_morgellons.htm#contents

SynchrOMicity
09-15-2008, 02:30 PM
OH yes they are real! These photos were takin in a short time one morning,friends three hundred miles away had the same thing going on. A checker board sky!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8LzF2HFmkA&feature=related

http://www.owsweather.com/contrailreport.html

http://www.bariumblues.com/index.htm

http://www.rense.com/general82/chemit.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL50vs899uw&feature=related

Greg10036
09-15-2008, 05:39 PM
I've looked into this a bit myself. Besides the negative impact on our physical bodies, I understood that the new energetic frequency emanating from our sun is being blocked by the bad guys. This frequency that is to carry us into fourth dimensional awareness is being dulled, to buy these people more time. They don't want people to wake up.

:lightsabre:


I had not heard or thought about this. Very intriguing and chords with me. Do you have any information on this?

Yes chemtrails are real. Go to- weatherwars.info
Excellent site. Love and Peace.
Greg

GFWeye
09-15-2008, 06:28 PM
I've looked into this a bit myself. Besides the negative impact on our physical bodies, I understood that the new energetic frequency emanating from our sun is being blocked by the bad guys. This frequency that is to carry us into fourth dimensional awareness is being dulled, to buy these people more time. They don't want people to wake up.

:lightsabre:

You got it..... Hey others are waking up as well YIPEEEE:thumb_yello:

Great to hear it.. All of the pieces fit from NWO to the Stars (we are to Acsend THIS time... We have been here BEFORE and blown ourselves up!! NOT THIS TIME BUDDY! HA:mfr_lol:

JohnWdoe
09-15-2008, 06:51 PM
I personally do believe they are spraying.

I would love to know what and who are in command of these affairs, i do have an airport just outside my town (Cessna) that is quite large. For about 6 months they have been flying and doing test flights at night, my town has about 5000 people and to hear 2 of them fly right over your house at 2 am is something that makes you yell at them! hahaha i just thought of myself running outside and giving the old man fist shake at some black helicopter :lol3:

Never have i seen a chemtrail though.

Sarahmay
09-16-2008, 07:25 PM
YES, they are real. The week of the DNC they were spraying like crazy here and I live in the middle of nowhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VmAQqi3OJc

What no one has suggested is calling the sylphs. Sounds crazy, but I saw it work. After 3 days of spraying, I called the sylphs and they decimated the trails. Now anytime I see a trail I call them.

Picture of sylph over my house:

JesterTerrestrial
09-16-2008, 07:30 PM
Hi Sarahmay,

What is a sylph?

i have not heard of this. Interesting. This was outside in my sky one day about 3 weeks ago. It looked like a winged being (in bottom) in front of a plane with spray coming off the back. I thought it was so strange I took a picture...by the time I got the batteries in my camera it had changed shape a bit and the lighting was fading as it was late afternoon but you can still see it...

maybe its just nothing have a look. (as I have since learned...maybe its a sylph and started a thread to learn more SYLPH Thread (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=16629#post16629))

Sarahmay
09-16-2008, 08:26 PM
Looks like a sylph attacking a chemtrail!

Sylphs are air elementals. Native Americans referred to them as the Thunderbirds. Sylphs are a class of highly evolved Etheric beings who work with the "spirit of the air" a very great deva who manages the world's air, clouds, weather. Well, technically they've a number of labels: Sylphs, Air Sprites, Rods, Elementals-of-the-air, Lower_devas, Spirits of the Air.

Above taken from here: http://www.whale.to/b/sylphs_h.html

Call them out and see if they will appear for you.

CB_Brooklyn
09-17-2008, 05:20 AM
Chemtrails have been persistent in New York for quite some time now, and it's definitely weather related. After they're sprayed, it gets hazy and/or cloudy and/or windy. Like clockwork.

JesterTerrestrial
09-17-2008, 06:03 AM
Looks like a sylph attacking a chemtrail!

Sylphs are air elementals. Native Americans referred to them as the Thunderbirds. Sylphs are a class of highly evolved Etheric beings who work with the "spirit of the air" a very great deva who manages the world's air, clouds, weather. Well, technically they've a number of labels: Sylphs, Air Sprites, Rods, Elementals-of-the-air, Lower_devas, Spirits of the Air.

Above taken from here: http://www.whale.to/b/sylphs_h.html

Call them out and see if they will appear for you.

Well this is amazing!!!
I did a quick search on youtube for sylphs and found many....

The link you have posted has some great info.

No Air - Just Ask The Sylphs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js1isjIS3WU

2 Sylphs pulling a chemtrail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcQmFtWezS0

Indian in the machine - AMAZING human sky sylphs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgxYzmK_hdo

THE DARK FORCES WILL NOT WIN!

Thank you so much for posting...this has just made my day much brighter! Who needs an orgone buster when we have multidimensional beings on our side :) Thank you sylphs!!! I'm going to be calling you out to play!

JT

Jenn
09-21-2008, 04:11 PM
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=85&pictureid=476

I think they are real! It is not normal what I see going on up there.
A beautiful sunny clear day within hours turns to haze!
During fishing season, they really spray heavy over the sea.

MisterPanda
09-21-2008, 04:31 PM
They are real. Try this
Try meditating or thinking of your third eye at home. Me I can always get it to tingle with pressure when i am at home. I think that means it awake. Anyways
now try it out side. I did this once and found it really difficult to get it to tingle with pressure, instead it was hurting instead. I look up to the sky, what did i notice, planes spraying chem trails.

just my experience, you can try to see if it the same for you

Jenn
09-21-2008, 04:36 PM
Really interesting about the sylphs!
I wonder if this was one?
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=85&pictureid=483
The most awsomest cloud I ever did see!
I took this pic just before giving up my home by the sea, because I could not afford to switch from oil to a better system of heating, or even afford the oil.
I keep telling myself I did the right thing. :)

Sarahmay
09-21-2008, 05:03 PM
Jenn, that is an awesome cloud! I saw a lot of those this summer. But the sylphs I get are ethereal, wispy things that often looks like birds. They are very curvy and curly and they move quite quickly.

Yesterday, Sat. am, I got up and saw some serious chemtrails already formed over my house. One was being sprayed right then, and I swear there was no plane...must of been one of those orb sprayers I've heard about. I looked with binoculars but couldn't tell (darn I need stronger binoculars!).

Anyhoo, I called out the sylphs, but I thought oh, no they will never be able to get all those chemtrails! And not a sylph in sight! So I wait an hour, go out again and the chemtrails were half gone, sylphs ALL OVER them.

I know I sound like a crazy person, but honestly these things love me and I love them. They hover over my house and make all kinds of cool shapes, and I totally feel their energy. I don't know if I have some sort of special relationship with them, like some people do with earth elementals, or if we all have this capacity. But they make my world a better place.

swordsmith
09-21-2008, 09:05 PM
I guess I find it kind of hard to believe there is anyone who has managed to find their way here who even has to ask if chemtrails are real. I can understand if you have never seen them in your area, but if that is true, WHERE do you live???

The only place I know for (possibly) sure they do not do it is Cuba, surprise surprise, not a member of the UN. I remember reading that the day one of the eastern european countries joined the EU, the chemtrails started in earnest, can't remember which one. ( My brain doesn't much like aluminium or barium)

I am seriously affected by chemtrails as I already have heavy metal issues from mercury amalgams, even though they are all removed.
The thing that really gets me is when you point them out to seemingly intelligent people, they will NOT go there. " Oh you dont want to live your life in fear". And I say, do I LOOK scared? Jeesh, the new age movement has a LOT to answer for, so many people I encounter say they just want to focus on the positive. I say THANKS for poisoning me by your complacency, hey, never mind your kids.

I almost feel more anger towards my fellow sheep than to the perpetrators. I have been working for 3 years at the grass root level to put this info out on the street and off the net and it is very eye-opening in a really discouraging way. I am at the point where I just want to pack up and find a place where they dont do it. Um, other than Cuba.

Anyone know of any place they don't do it for sure? What is the situation in South America? I never see people on chemtrail forums from S. America .
Also, the planes that people can not see? I am pretty sure they are employing cloaking device technology, Bill Ryan's weird photo could just be a little part of the sprayer uncloaked, dont know. Also I think some planes are flown by remote control. , just a hunch, but an ex NASA buddy agrees with me it is entirely possible and even desirable , hey, less people needing to keep quiet, and so much cheaper, too. Not that they are worried about THAT. Why, its an INDUSTRY now!

I was out today at a large outdoor food and wine fest on the coast here, yesterday and today, the spray was horrific, an all day aerial assault, and peeps are just zombies stuffing their faces in denial. Its like living in the twilight zone. I have lost more friends over this issue than anything else. I consider it a basic intelligence test.

Don't know if anyone here has the ability to hear ELFs , but I do, some people call it "the HUM". Anyway, certainly at the full moon, the "HUM" is cranked up so loud it sounds like a deisel parked outside my house. I know this is microwave tech used in conjunction with the whole plasma sky stuff. And yes, they do spray at night, LOTS. I get tired of being sensitive. I was freaked when I heard the HUM in rural northern Michigan, I was so looking forward to getting some peace.

A lot of what some people are calling sylphs are just blown about chemtrails, though I would very much like to believe in sylphs. Also I have some serious questions about chembusters from a scientific perspective, but for now, that is enough out of me.

first post, hi everybody and sorry for the rant.

Sarahmay
09-21-2008, 09:24 PM
Yeah, I'm really mad about the chemtrails too. It is like everyone has amnesia about them--I point them out, and they say...whatever.

The sylphs I've seen aren't blown around chemtrails. When I first called them, at someone's advice, it had been 3 days of heavy spraying and the sky was filled was lines, nothing resembling a wispy sylph...just wide, expanded chemtrails. They don't appear until I call them, and then the chemtrails are gone within a few hours. And the sky is clear, not hazy.

Okay, I am done expounding about sylphs, before I am know as crazy sylph chick. Probaby too late!

Sarah

Angel in Disguise
09-21-2008, 09:36 PM
For those of you that would like more info on Chem Trails I highly recommend viewing this very well done film.

Don't Talk About the Weather... clever isn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxNeoXkL0mM&feature=related

Careful when watching it, as it goes in random series like 1A 1B 2A 2B 2C etc. Enjoy, I certainly did ;)

pineal-pilot-in merkabah
09-21-2008, 09:37 PM
look on my preofile page

Red Pill Reaction
09-22-2008, 01:49 AM
I first began noticing regular, patterned, chemtrail spraying in my area around January 1, 2008.

There is a website, http://flightaware.com, that you can use to view live radar tracking of passenger jet aircraft in your local airspace.

What I find in my area is that on most occasions, the flights laying down the chemtrails do NOT correspond to commercial passenger jet aircraft in the local airspace.

My conclusions: chemtrails are real and are being laid down by non-passenger jet aircraft.

no caste
09-22-2008, 05:52 AM
We see a lot of chemtrails in Canada. (I live in Calgary AB/ northwestern Americas.) I read one lady's ideas today, link below, that were new to me. She made a mind control/ barium connection. I'm not sure if this is a valid connection, but that's the thing.... with the obscene cost, the crap, the weather, what is going on... I'm still guessing. I continue to ask my government officials about it, knowing that other citizens' requests are answered with detailed explanations about jet condensation trails. I guess the problem doesn't really exist.

I can't see why US military activity is taking place in Canada, unless it's all about NATO. We don't have the kind of equipment & budget - just useful geography. It seems most countries affected by chemtrails are those in NATO, so it's about war, alliances, geopolitics.

To say that I hate it would be an understatement. I've gone through bad patches. I have also noticed physical symptoms after 'heavy' days, e.g. fluid in ear, sinus congestion, imbalance - and flu/cold effects in others. Certain storms create a sudden sleepiness, like I was hit on the back of the head. 'Messing' the skies with these industrial projects is only bad, stupid, reckless, careless, wasteful, cruel, maybe even profane - at least that's my opinion. I see planes all the time - crisscrossing, left, right, center, east, north...

The possibilities of scalar weapons, barium, mind control etc. are very real and powerful and would be another factor to consider in urban areas (if you can't leave). I wonder if anyone has more info about it? I'm familiar with a few mind control projects & operations. I just haven't heard so in relation to chemtrail compounds. Maybe intuition is the best precaution.

Here's the link: http://www.metatech.org/A06/chemtrails_reason_cause.html

Our local sky phenomena:
http://www.gpscentral.ca/graphics/Photos/trail1Feb22-08-th.jpghttp://www.gpscentral.ca/graphics/Photos/trail2Feb22-08-th.jpghttp://www.gpscentral.ca/graphics/Photos/trail4Feb22-08-th.jpg
http://www.gpscentral.ca/graphics/Photos/day1Mar4-08-th.jpghttp://www.gpscentral.ca/graphics/Photos/day2Mar4-08-th.jpghttp://www.gpscentral.ca/graphics/Photos/day5Mar4-08-th.jpghttp://www.gpscentral.ca/graphics/Photos/day5aMar4-08-th.jpg

**calmness & stillness & quiet reflection**

swordsmith
09-22-2008, 08:59 AM
I am sure the chemtrails have a mind control element, there is to me an obvious connection to the so called cell phone towers and the broadcasting of low frequencies.

Last night was the first night I did not hear the rumble of very disturbing low freqency sound I have heard every night for the last month or so. The sound starts out as a subtle ( to some) electrical sounding vibration, then gets stronger until it wakes me up.

On full beam, it is the most irritating force that makes it hard to think at all. In fact if I get to sleep when it is on, my dreams are quite disturbed. I am pretty convinced the whole plasma sky thing is to broadcast right through us, as well as the TV screen sky scenario. Once we are all nicely metalized ( word ?) we are as walking antenna . If making people unable to think clearly and feel anxious isnt an insidious form of mind control , then I dont know what is. Not to mention the heavy metals we absorb make us unable to think clearly all on their own, like the aluminium /alzheimers connection. Howzabout a double whammy then? Very clever really.

Some " people" really need their come-downance.

Thanks to the person who posted the "Dont Talk About the Weather " film, its really good and even has a bit of (black) humor. Much of it is exactly how I feel peeling back the curtains of a morning, only in my head the music would be from " Psycho".

OK, anyone out there WITHOUT chemtrails? That would be nice to hear. Or no cell towers? Correction, few towers?

Sarahmay
09-22-2008, 01:34 PM
I am sure the chemtrails have a mind control element, there is to me an obvious connection to the so called cell phone towers and the broadcasting of low frequencies.

OK, anyone out there WITHOUT chemtrails? That would be nice to hear. Or no cell towers? Correction, few towers?

I have no cell towers near my home (can't get any reception) and they are sparse in the town where I work. But I have plenty of chemtrails, and NO commercial air traffic where I live. And I've been waking up at night with chest pains (chemtrail symptoms?).

Thanks for the link to the film, Angel.

spiritual_wanderer
10-28-2008, 01:11 AM
I can't say exactly what chemtrails are, but they are real. I've watched them spray the sky in all kinds of patterns, criss-crossing, etc. The clouds change in the sprayed area completely within minutes. Maybe it's weather manipulation, but it's definitely real. I hope it's not poisons, but I seriously wouldn't put it past some of these people.

Humble Janitor
10-28-2008, 07:39 AM
What if chemtrails are some kind of defense shield against cosmic invaders or perhaps even Nibiru?