New Zealand Ground Crew

[Gareth]

This is my first post. Living in NZ I am hoping there are Ground Crew members here.

I look forward to your replies.

[sakuna]

Roger, the aerials are up,
is it just me or does it feel like we (NZ) are experiencing some weather patterns not dissimilar to those currently in the us

[Peter]

Hello Anasazi and sakuna, my wife Rosie and I emigrated to Kiwiland 3 years ago to get away from the pending civil war in Europe. We are on the West coast of the South Island where we are trying to establish a Groundcrew/community thingy. There are people interested but unfortunately as in Europe most Kiwis seem to be out of touch with whats happening elsewhere on this planet, a lot of people I've talked too haven't even noticed the Chemtrails above their heads. We've just had our water poisoned with 1080 by the evil Animal Health Board, along with the set net ban the population control programme is on course. We are staying no matter what the cowards throw at us. We hope to meet you all one fine day. Love on ya, Peter

[Gareth]

Hi Peter

Good to hear from you and welcome.

We are proably in one of the more safer countries being this far south. I fear, however, that nowhere is going to be far enough away in a nuclear conflict.

All we can hope for it to try to educate, look after ourselves and our families and establish contact groups like this.

Regards
G

[sakuna]

Hey Peter
I think NZ concerns are minor compared to pending international events. I believe we are somewhat insulated from the NWO type scenario however, we must remain vigilant. The usa produces 1080 poison exclusively for the NZ market at a cost of millions, there is already considerable demand for possum fur. Surely a bounty placed on the animal would allow a thriving pelt industry to emerge, thus saving our wildlife & humanity from gross poisoning. It appears our government is more concerned about meeting trade obligations than the preservation of biodiversity. I have been aware of chemtrail activity for several years, prolific activity seems to precede a dramatic change in weather(this could be purely coincidental) rarely observed on clear days(covert?).
Just some thoughts hope i'm not ranting.
Best regards

[Need2Know]

Hey ground crew!....
Kiwi to join you if I may!?

Random Wednesday night thought....
Although on the surface we are 'clean green NZ' and say "NO" to those naughty nuclear US ships docking in our waters and the media speculates if we are on good terms with the US.......We are VERY much in bed with the US. Where else can you find a reasonably large land mass with the population of Manchester England to try things on!!!?
If the corporates believe NZ is a great place to product trial, what do the gov believe!!
....."You wish to spray Chemtrails....? In NZ?.....Oh okaaaay!!!!....Go for it!!!!.......oh and hey, would you like a top secret NSA listening station in the South Island which happens to be built above the main Telecom trunkline too??!
Oh go on! It's pretty green down there!"


But it's still got to be one of the safest places (if there are any?!).....!!!:original:

[ARE WE THERE YET]

Roger, the aerials are up,
is it just me or does it feel like we (NZ) are experiencing some weather patterns not dissimilar to those currently in the us

No it isn't just you:mfr_omg: I took my photos of a chemtrail(in my album here) which appeared right over my roof just before all this bad weather started. HIGH STRANGNESS to be true

[ARE WE THERE YET]

Hey ground crew!....
Kiwi to join you if I may!?

Random Wednesday night thought....
Although on the surface we are 'clean green NZ' and say "NO" to those naughty nuclear US ships docking in our waters and the media speculates if we are on good terms with the US.......We are VERY much in bed with the US. Where else can you find a reasonably large land mass with the population of Manchester England to try things on!!!?
If the corporates believe NZ is a great place to product trial, what do the gov believe!!
....."You wish to spray Chemtrails....? In NZ?.....Oh okaaaay!!!!....Go for it!!!!.......oh and hey, would you like a top secret NSA listening station in the South Island which happens to be built above the main Telecom trunkline too??!
Oh go on! It's pretty green down there!"


But it's still got to be one of the safest places (if there are any?!).....!!!:original:

..,thats why Condi. came to visit Helen -to make sure her crew were doing as they are told.

[reZak]

Hi Anasazi and everyone. I will fly to NZ 13.september. I am interested in sustainable independent houses called earthships... so mainly Iam going there to get some practical experiences with them, helping some people and communities to build them. I wont to Join and live with waken people in community, but now I am still learning about survival, alternative energies and stuff to be able to contribute more. Iam flexible enought to go enywhere and meet anybody who wont to start community. Peter, can I have a look how are you doing on your place when i am near?

Do anybody knows about this ones?
http://directory.ic.org/21812/Earthwise_Valley
http://www.savita.co.nz/

[linkes]

I’ve also noticed the chem. trails here more so than when I lived in South Africa. I heard that chem. trails are silver particles placed in the atmosphere to reflect the damaging rays from the sun. It would make sense considering the hole in the ozone layer is right on top of us. I am not saying its a solution but think about it where would you implement the idea in the first place, well where the issue is the worst.

None the less I love NZ

We are in the Southern hemisphere at the ass end of the world, Bonus if nuclear war had to break out in Europe or America:thumb_yello:

We are greener than the rest of the world Bonus:winksmiley02:

We are at the end of the earth and have like very little oil BONUS:tongue2:

Also think about it we are a population of 4 million and the amount of farms if the world had to go bust electronically and financially we have the resource to keep plodding along.:naughty:

Here’s to NZ ground crew:welcomeani:

Peace and Blessing
Linkes

[sakuna]

My understanding/knowledge of chemtrails suggests they provide a medium/carrier for the transmission of sound/light waves to affect biorythmic
patterns, targeting primarily weather & human behaviour. (evidently not for our benefit)
Dumbing us down & rehearsing the global warming climate catastrophe endgame.
Best Regards

[Gareth]

..,thats why Condi. came to visit Helen -to make sure her crew were doing as they are told.

You know that Condi Rice is associated with the Bilderburgs - they are the nutcases that want to reduce the population by 80% and enslave the rest, keeping all the riches for themselves.

They say that everything is going "according to plan". Well to me, that is the sort of thing you say when things are NOT going according to plan.

[Free-UFO-Videos]

Howdy from New Zealand here.
I read all of your posts.

Yes, friends and I have been studying everything for over 10 years.
About 10 hours a day in all my spare time since 1997.

The ET UFO situations, Agencies situations, and tons of other Intelligence Data.

I saw The Disclosure Project live in 2001.

YouTube that was founded in 2005 was a welcome addition to the tools for intelligence gathering.

As you know, judging by some of your posts, you know that there is a silent war going on. Humans against Humans, Humans against ETs, ETs against ETs.

I'm a big fan of this message ..........

http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/index.html


Whoever created that information, it still matches all the other intelligence data. So, yeah, it gets messy, and know wonder the intelligence agencies don't want full disclosure on the TV everyday.


If you ever get a bit depressed, just watch 'The Secret' DVD
or What The Bleep: 'Down The Rabbit Hole' DVD.

And keep in contact here.
The Universe isn't all that bad.
And I've picked up something over the years, and that is ...
Goodness is the strongest force in the Universe :original:



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[clarkkent]

hey all :) me and my and my two friends are looking to move to wellington or auckland, do you guys ever see american ex patriot migrants? i probably cant do it "legally" and might be relagated to mowing lawns but its better than being stuck in the US i think. anyhow what are your guys's thoughts? do you run into american living there once and a while? i know they're pretty picky with immigration...

[Gareth]

hey all :) me and my and my two friends are looking to move to wellington or auckland, do you guys ever see american ex patriot migrants? i probably cant do it "legally" and might be relagated to mowing lawns but its better than being stuck in the US i think. anyhow what are your guys's thoughts? do you run into american living there once and a while? i know they're pretty picky with immigration...

I think it depends on your skill set - your value. Have a look at http://www.immigration.govt.nz/

G

[ARE WE THERE YET]

Hi is anyone else concerned about recent events today.

Seeing as how we no a whole more than the average idiot about whats going on.

[HaveBlue]

Thanks for the PM are we there yet. So I'm on the Otago penninsula here in Dunedin,right under the flight paths for what little jet traffic there is here.
Chemtrails in NZ? OK I'm not in AK or WTN but I have not seen anything like that here. You are talking about the criss cross lines in the sky I take it.And I mean heaps of them not one or two passenger jets?
One line is not a chemtrail. Jets always leave contrails when they are up at altitude where the hot gases leaving the jet engines condense with the cold air outside the airplane and condense to form water vapour or what is known as contrails.
Are you NOT talking of these?

I'd be more worried myself about being sprayed like flies along with the painted applemoth!
And your cellphone is not only allowing yourself to be bugged -even when switched off,unless you remove the battery-but is also giving you alot more than the BS you hear on it.Brain Tumours at best-mind control at worst!. Yes-I don't have one anymore, Landline and email if you want to contact me. Now HAM radio is another matter which along with many on this site I will be looking into.
I am into being in touch with real people that have something positive for me to learn etc..and vice versa.
Peronally I have no complaints what so ever about my own situation.
We are in (should chicken licken be right and the sky is falling) the best place on earth to withstand global catastrophy-well I am anyway- don't know about the Nth Island, I left there 10 yrs ago and have been back but never looked back! I am however right at sea level. But at 45 south not hurricane or tsunami zone. Earthquakes maybe but the beauty makes it worth it.And I love it here and no amount of BS rising sea level stories will have me move!
I can't wait for 2012-I think it'll be a good thing. A pole shift in thinking rather than the earth itself flipping upsidedown.
No sign of Planet X-Nibiru yet! We at the bottom of the southern hemishpere are best placed to see it first if it exists.
The reality is though that the Nth and Sth Isands are as far away as the UK and Europe from each other. The Interisland ferries and aircraft is all there is to bridge us in the event of disaster or fuel shortage. All it takes down here is snow on the Kilmog (the road nth just out of Dunedin) and we are cut off more or less. The point being that just like what the adds on TV say-when the s*** hits the fan you are on your own! Your immediate neighbours will be your salvation and you theirs. I can only pray for you down here.

[Wholeness_Navigator]

It's good to hear a positive response in reguards to coming events, as I beleive too that this will only bring good to this world. Now is the time to be lifting our consiousness and working with the universe in order to assend to the next density, rather than just talking about the choas and manifesting more choas.

I was not aware of chemtrails in NZ though. However it does not surprise me in the least as we seam to be alot closer with the US than many believe.

[IndigoPhoenix]

i was wondering if anybody could help me with this situation, my girlfriend and i are trying to make it down to NZ before everything comes undone...im concerned about how to get in to NZ with out having any kind of visa..we want to fly under the radar of the government so that we can at least head for the mountains in the south island and hide...please help i feel like we r running out of time and we need as much info and help as possible. blessings

[Gareth]

i was wondering if anybody could help me with this situation, my girlfriend and i are trying to make it down to NZ before everything comes undone...im concerned about how to get in to NZ with out having any kind of visa..we want to fly under the radar of the government so that we can at least head for the mountains in the south island and hide...please help i feel like we r running out of time and we need as much info and help as possible. blessings

You are certainly better off coming here legally. Our immigration officials do deport people here illegally.

The only advise I can offer is to go to the New Zealand High Commission and ask them for advise.

[Optix]

G'day ya'll, anyone out there who has been paying attention should be aware that things are starting to fall apart overseas and it might be time to start putting out heads together to find out where the safest places are for us in this country in both the north and south islands, obviously avoiding largely populated and low lying areas. Im situated in upper northland, close to our kauri forests. Any suggestions people???

[earwig]

Hi All!

I personally haven't noticed a lot of chemtrail activity here (I have definitely seen it tho and there's some examples on http://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/photogallery/index.php?cat=9 ) - Europe and Nth America seem to be much harder hit. I think that they may have sprayed Auckland early yesterday morning tho... I'm pretty sure that most of the spraying that's done here is very sneaky like at night or when there's already a lot of cloud cover (or maybe they don't spray much or I don't see it). Too many farmers who look at the weather all the time maybe...

They're easy to spot when fresh as they are at much lower altitudes than contrails (usually somewhere around the cumulus or just above) and they spread out and 'stick' to the sky rather than dissipating within half an hour or so like contrails do (unless there's lots of orgonite around). You then get a creepy kind of haze in the air. Contrails generally need to be cirrus cloud height or greater to form because that's where its cold enough.

I agree its nice to see some fellow Kiwi of like mind! Hi to everyone :original:

I'm another who thinks that things are not going to be total doom and gloom with disasters everywhere, altho I'm sure that there will be some trying times. At the end of the day its up to us to create what we what to see, so I guess that's why we're here... As I see it we are basically responsible for the state of it all now anyway...

[Vinchenzo]

I'd have to agree Earwig, I've been living in Auckland for three years now and have seen about four chemtrails the whole time I've been here. Thats all during the day though so there probably has been more when I'm not looking. The sneaky bastards!!
Alot of people think that the upcoming changes are going to be cataclismic and earth changing, I bloody well hope not!! I don't blame the earth if it wants to throw us off but hopefully it'll give us some more time to make these changes without half the human race dying.

What needs to happen is that people change their way of thinking, its hard to do because of the way we're brought up, it generally takes something dramatic of tramatic to jolt someone out of their current mindset. The PTB are going to provide the jolt so hopefully more people will start to wake up in the coming days. The new way of thinking needs to look to the future, we need to set a goal for the direction we are going to take this country and work towards it. I think that the goal should be to reach self sustainability, no more participating in globalisation. People think that not participating in globalisation will mean that we will be isolationist and have no contact with the outside world. Not so!! Dumb argument.
New Zealand is in a very unique position, we are part of the Western power structure and a very small population. So if we enact positive change here which would be a lot easier than in other Western countries, it would reverberate throughout the West. To optimistic?? No way!
Along with the self sustainability goal, there needs to be substantial reforms. Our currency needs to be based on something tangible rather than "confidence", if it wasn't so serious it'll be hilarious.:lmfao:
We need to change the tax system which is a given, and we should not be paying interest to print our own money. Government needs to not be about gaining 'power' but instead they should be the custodians of the country. Tasked with making sure that future genrations are going to inherit a self sustainable land not a sinking ship. Corporations should be made to have constitutions like countries, they should have mandates to look after citizens and the environment.
These are very idealistic ideals and people will say that they are not achieveable, wrong again. Anything is achieveable we just need people power.
How are we going to get the people power?? By explaining to them the current situation proposing the solution. Saying that if they agree with the solution to help by telling other people. Grass roots movement.
Thoughts??:roll1:

[sakuna]

Dependency has eroded our human spirit, we r so detached from natural rythms & cycles that we have lost sight of our divine ability.
I believe in sustainability through small community based & owned infrastructure. Diversity stimulated by individual ability & the need to contribute to the economy with information,produce,labour,crafts,resources,wisdom etc.
Interdependence is the solution, one is equal to the sum of all parts. If we were more dependent on each other, surely our relationships with humanity & nature would be in harmony. Instead we allow corporates to breed addiction within our society & manipulate our fragile minds.
Throw your tv away,dig a garden,hand milk a cow,learn how to make your own fuel,build a hinaki,camp in the bush for a night or 2,share with your neighbours.
Remember what it feels like to be connected to a greater source,realise your own unique worth & ability,we all have that choice.
Best regards

[Peter]

Right on sakuna, I find it sad to see that nearly everyone has their little piece of 100% pure green sterilised lawn attached to their stately dwelling but very few grow vegetables. We have to promote that self sustainable Kiwi lifesyle of old.
I believe the use of 1080 and its indiscriminating erradication of the wild game and the set net ban are part of the Governments covert population control, along with the chemtrails of course which we seem to be getting more of over here on the west coast.
The best solution I feel is to be a positive example in the community and also to concerntrate our energy on the children before they become as apathetic as their parents.

keep keeping on.
Peter.

[FoxForceFive]

I am in Oamaru. I suspect that any attempts at bringing together a ground crew in a small community will involve the whole town itself reconnecting and banding together - the whole 'know your neighbour' thing.

The problem is, most of us these days learn about teamwork through such esteemed reality tv shows as 'Celebrity Treasure Island' and 'Castaway'. I am positive that a place like ours would remain relatively self-sustainable when it comes to growing our own food off the grid, as it were.

[Gareth]

I am in Oamaru. I suspect that any attempts at bringing together a ground crew in a small community will involve the whole town itself reconnecting and banding together - the whole 'know your neighbour' thing.

The problem is, most of us these days learn about teamwork through such esteemed reality tv shows as 'Celebrity Treasure Island' and 'Castaway'. I am positive that a place like ours would remain relatively self-sustainable when it comes to growing our own food off the grid, as it were.

I tend to agree with that. We only need to "take back" the oil being extracted in the deep south and keep it for ourselves instead of sending it overseas and we should be okay.

[steveyg]

Hi Everyone,

Heres my 10 cents worth...
NZ is a very very good place to be, especially moving into 2009.
Lots of land, water, mild climate and laid back resourceful people.
Like all developed countries, I suspect living in the big cities will prove to be problematic and NZ's big cities are no exception. As I see it the integrated logistics system will possibly break down. This is how your food gets from the manufacturer to your local supermarket. Credit difficulties and fuel supply (peak oil) could accentuate this problem. Iceland have this issue now.
What you need to be doing now is getting your thinking straight. Don't get too caught up with chemtrails, ufos, illuminati, escaping to Uraguay or any of that ****. Don't listen to alot of the blatantly fear based disinformation on the net either e.g. Blossom Goodchild, Bill Deagle and the zetatalk website - I found this stuff just brings you down and gets in the way of YOU coming up with viable solutions. Be discerning, if you focus on it, it becomes real. Particulary important heading into 2009 to 2012.
Don't let other peoples dramas, karma or egos get in your way. Alot of 'new age' types just have big egos and have a bone to grind. Switch it off and go for a walk outdoors, play with the dog, have a coffee:cup:, lighten up and get centred.

The solution lies with you, get your thinking straight and the rest falls into place pretty effortlessly.

As for me, I've got a couple of acres in Hawkes Bay, bore water, chooks, vegies and a wood fired oven with a wetback. If the grid goes at least I have hot water and cooked meals. I'm way better off than alot of 'rich' city people. 2012 is all about emotional control, thoughts and manifesting your own reality. Go with the flow and trust your intuition. Turn off the tv and the computer, enjoy nature and be reconnected with the earth.

Good luck everyone, :original:
Steve

[IRKCOD]

Good thoughts StevenG.

A lot of getting on with life, if there are grid or other issues, will involve the development of strong local communities prepared to assist one another.
In this respect you being out in the country have a more solid base to build from. Here in the 'Big Smoke' we 'Jafas' have to break back into a communication mode. Talking to the neighbours over the fence may be just a traumatic as the event that gives rise to needing to do it.

Well they say challanges are the spice of life and isn't that what we are all here for?
You always have to look on the positive side, no matter how small it may be.

[steveyg]

Hi IRKOD,
Yes, even in the rural parts of NZ, your community is important. You need to have a sense of contribution and help others. So yes, being prepared to communicate with people and being part of a community is a good start.
Hiding in the hills behind a barb wire fence with guns, eating freeze dried food is a bit too paranoid for me.
Auckland could be a ok if you have a quarter acre with plenty of garden. It'd be pretty easy to get a collective going between neighbours, that way you can specialise in growing a few crops and trade with your excess produce. The climate is humid and warm so you can grow anything up there. My nana lived next to some Samoans and they had a banana tree!
If your're in an apartment, I'd be thinking of an alternative living arangement. It just won't cut it moving forward. Property in NZ has never been more affordable, a good time to get that bit of land, something to consider anyway.

[linkes]

when are we all going to get together like the australian guys have ?:winksmiley02:

[steveyg]

Hi Linkes,

Whats the goal here?

Get togethers are good but also involve travel, time and committment.
Also, if eveyones goals are different then its setting people up for a big dissapointment as you'll never meet everyones expectations.

Maybe we're just an information and support network for now? Its always good to bounce ideas around and debate. Does that makes sense.

What do you guys think?

Cheers, Steve

[IRKCOD]

Hi Linkes & Steveyg.

I tend to agree at this point we should be more an information and support grouping.

In this respect I feel there would be a benefit in establishing a central repository (library) on the net where PDF downloads on Survival, Homesteading, Medical, Living in 3rd world conditions etc can be logged.

I'm not advocating a forum type setup, which are good, but I personally find difficult to 'backtrack on' looking for ideas I recall having seen in the past and would now like clarification on.

While there is a fantastic resource in the net it takes a lot of time to 'surf' for relevant information. A central resource may also stimulate ideas in others about areas they may have overlooked in making their own plans.

[Optix]

Hello...?

Is it just me or doesnt it seem like theres much activity on the New Zealand forums, is this because most of our mates are asleep or are we all just waiting for the right time.
Anyway, since we'v got a place to chat specifically for our country why dont we talk about whats generally going on here and start sharing some information.
Now just to start off is it safe to assume im not the only nzer whose watched the project camelot videos? Or maybe seen Zeitgeist and heard of jordan maxwell and michael tsarion, or maybe uv heard of david icke or david wilcock, maybe even had a look at some of the conscious media network interviews.
I know theres heaps more but some of the ideas held by these people can do with some debate right.. anyone got something to add or possibly links to other interesting information? the least we can do is to get on the same page as each other right..

Peace

[IRKCOD]

Optix,

While there are only a comparative few commenting, at last viewing the stats showed 33 posts with 1,155 visits to this tread, some people are getting the message.

Community wise we certainly don't appear to be strong as last time I looked at the NZ Social listing there were only 2 on it. To my way of thinking that should be the forum for setting up a local information/Resource exchange under the appropriate "survival" threads
Current news and 'alerts' are great on this the main forum, but trying to research it for specific topics becomes difficult and time consuming.

There are a lot of people out there waiting or wanting to be woken up, particularly with the current financial fiasco. I download a lot of the interviews from Camelot and other sites and put them on CD/DVD's. A few friends and a lot of the kids (adult & teenage) friends borrow or copy them.

By the same token there are others that appear to think that we are 'fringe dwellers'

Lets hope we get more 'Life' on the NZ. While it may go against the general NZ conservative nature to express opinion in public, here at least you have the opportunity to do it as anonymously as you wish.

:original::original::original::original:

(Have just rechecked the listing and see that you have added yourself to it - Great)

[Peter]

Hi folks, I'm still checking in and reading as much as poss on this site, there's so many interesting threads I just don't get time to contribute.
So, I'll throw in a subject thats really bothering me, I believe the 1080 drops and the Setnet ban are simply there to stop us from getting free food and to stop or discourage people from going "bush" when the supermarkets are empty. Also I've been told by a friend that Council workers are being "taught" how to convince coastal land owners to give up their properties with the excuse that a tidal wave is coming. Any thoughts ?.
Keep on keeping on, Peter.

[steveyg]

Hi Peter,

Be discerning with the information you look at. The internet is like walking into a libray with all the books lying on the floor.

I wouldn't worry about the setnet ban and 1080. In a few years the Government is likely to have no money, you'll be lucky if anyone is there to answer the phones. There are plenty of people currently living off their own land in NZ, no one is stopping you joining them if you want, be prepared to do some work though.

I also doubt council workers are telling coast dwellers to move due to 'tidal waves', more like explaining how storm surges due to rising ocean levels will begin to encroach on our coastal land. These residents would be wanting their councils to do more to protect their way of life. Councils are hip to the diminishing returns of coastal properties. Anyone dumb enough to still be holding onto high-risk coastal property will realise soon enough the limitations of this living arrangement.

[HaveBlue]

Hi people, Optix I just hope you are good friends with the Maori up there as that is Ngapuhi country-in other words they are the ones that ate white people, longpork they called us! But they ate each other too! That was a 100 yeras ago to be sure but if things got bad enough they would be quite happy to revert to it I'm sure!
Down here in the SAouth Island there is only 1 million people compared to 3 million for the north island.
There is no methamphetimine freaks here either. A local cop told me that in Dunedin and Invergargill there is no problem with that but in Christchurch there is. I lived in Hamilton for 25 years and have been here 10 yeras. it was the best thing I've ever done,moving here that is. The people are nicer and more intelligent per capita too.
Feel free to look me up (anyone that reads this) if you ever visit or move down this way. And it's not as cold as people think! That's a disinfo thing to keep the idiots away!
Regard,Stephen

[Optix]

Hahaha HaveBlue, im well aware that theres a lot of ngapuhi country up here but generally you can talk to them now since they know english so im hoping it doesnt get so bad that i get eaten..... :nono:
but then for that to happen they'd have to catch me, and im verry verrry sneaky.
Plus from what i make of this country i think im lookin to move to the south island in the next year or two anyway, i id feel safer in the mountains being higher up. a lot of northland is low lying and would get flooded from any serious storm.

[utopiandreamer]

Hi KIwis , Kia Ora . w.r.t. chemtrails there are much less chemtrails here than in Europe , so that's great . Probably due to our blue skies they spray at night so you can not see them . If you want to watch the end result look at the sun on a blue sky like now for example on the north shore , you will notice that around the sun the color is a pale whitish blue . Do not fear the chemtrails as for now but fear the coming CODEX ALIMENTARIUS implementation , and the future banning of alternative medicines . the magazine " Uncensored " last issue has a very nice article on the subject , it is imperative to read it to learn how to react and concentrate our efforts .:lightsabre:

[Optix]

Hiya, Im going to say utopiandreamer has the right idea, i also read that article against natural medicines in the uncensored magazine and i would recommend uncensored and nexus magazines both as excellent alternative and informative reading material that can be purchased from your local super markets or post shops. the problem with these tho is its all good and well to read about it and be aware but its another for us to have anyway for everyone to communicate with each other about these ideas. therefore i propose we either start a new thread based as a discussion group on magazines like these or we utilise the new zealand forum for that purpose as we havent really had much activity so far haha. :lol3:

[IRKCOD]

Hi Optix,

I think the New Zealand Forum (Social Group) would be the appropriate place to use. Likely to be far less threads so easier to locate ideas etc.

[MAXIMISE]

Hi

I have a network of people and I am putting things into place, our website will be on line in a few weeks, we will be takeing the offensive and also will be acting on developed plans if the worst care senario occurs.

Feel free to e-mail me if you want to know more.

Robert

[MAXIMISE]

Hi

Just a clarification, I am here for people who want to network, communicate and educate other people, also to find solutions for the young people regarding their short and long term survival, as they are the future.

Robert Shariff

Leader O Aotearoa Waka

PS: in the future gold and silver will be meaningless, water and land brings life.

[Sol Invictus]

My wife and I went to the high commission, and asked about living in NZ. They were really helpful until it got to education of our little kiddie and immunisations.

Cannot educate at home 'unless you can satisfy the education secetary that she will be as well educated and as regulated as she would be at school'.

So in short, we said thanks, and **** you. brain washing? no way - we teach at home because we know how the state wants robots and docile sheep. they were very taken aback, but it made us realise we are in a good place. Oh and about child hood mandatory vaccines.... NZ just got scrubbed from the 'to do' list.

[Barron]

Hi Fellow Kiwis. :original:

Delighted to have recently found this web community and this is my first post to say "hi".

I'm a 40 year old male living on the outskirts of Auckland in a beautiful patch of Kauris and Rimus etc and have been on a search for knowledge and truth my whole life - you never stop learning!

For those interested I am active on another great site that is "gathering the ground crew" and it is www.ashtarcommand.net

Blessings to All.
Barron

[Dakini7]

I've thought carefully about posting this - and have now decided it is the right move. Sorry for the re-post, I also posted this in the other NZ thread.

I thought I should share with all of you that I contacted Maximise on here, regarding NZ ground crew plans. He was friendly at first, then upon viewing my website which outlines my artist/musician profile of a more spiritual nature - he outright judged me and said he wasn't interested in the kind of work I do, and that I basically wasn't welcome.

He then signed the email he sent me, LEADER, of some Aotearoa group.

I feel it is important that there is transparency, in these early formative stages...and we all need to be careful about who we associate ourselves with to co-create these ground crews & bases.

Personally, anyone calling themselves a leader, who judges others without even finding out about them directly - I would be concerned about their assumed role of "leader".

I am not interested in further fueling this conflict, nor having a public war with anyone. We have enough disharmony already on this planet. I approach people on here, for support, collaboration & co-creation. I don't believe it is acceptable for anyone to judge, exclude, or label THEMSELVES or anyone else. That's just continuing with old dysfunctional behaviours of segregation and EGO.

As I wrote to Maximise : "A united community presents an inpenetrable front against corruption."

I wish you all the best in finding the right leaders, and collaborators to work with - conscious, open, loving, passionate individuals all about working TOGETHER for a better world.

Blessings.

[Peter]

Thankx Dakini7, like you I believe we should be open and truthfull on this forum.
I contacted Maximise myself after reading his 1st post but when I saw he signed himself leader the warning lights started flashing, I personally have no desire to be in anyones flock.
Like you my wife Rosie and I are both Artists/musicians and we are also very spiritually inclined, so he won't be wanting us amongst his followers, Baa.
I doubt very much that you, Maximise will find many people here ready to take you on as their leader. The majority here are Free souls thats why they are here, the ones looking for leaders are sitting in front of their televisions or tugging on the priests cassock.
The EGO desires recognition, control and power over others we have to leave our ego's behind and accept to share the responsibility of decision making.
Arguably some people need and want to be guided, like the weak willed the mentally handicapped and of course young children and we all have a responsibility to help those individuals who ask for help. I never imagined that any of the ground crew members would want to follow a leader it seems so strange to me, isn't that where humanity up till now has gone wrong.
Thankx again Dakini7 I hope we meet one day,
Bye for now, Peter.

[IRKCOD]

Hi Dakini7 & Peter,

I totally agree we should be here to assist each other and there is no place for EGO's. True 'Leaders' develop and are accepted by their followers for their skills or abilities.

Others can only be Directors; holding power based on the resources they hold or that are made available to them by their patrons.

One of the main function of the Ground Crew, as I see it is to make survival/ quality of life information freely available to those who want it; without endangering their own communities security.

Stay Safe.

[MAXIMISE]

Points of clarification,

1.0 I am Leader O (meaning of) Aotearoa Waka, which is a movement of people, the network of which I speak.

2.0 Its unfortunate that some people propogate negativity, if someone choses not to associate with someone else out of free choice.

3.0 It is disrespectful to sway the purpose of this forum from the building of networks, to creating an atmosphere is distrust amongst people.

4.0 Not all colored people are dishonest, and ignorance of a culture is no excuse not to share unconditional love (aroha) and compassion by leading by a good example.

5.0 Comments like these on this forum makes me dispair at times, I often wonder what happened to respect and compassion in people.

[linkes]

Thankx Dakini7, like you I believe we should be open and truthfull on this forum.
I contacted Maximise myself after reading his 1st post but when I saw he signed himself leader the warning lights started flashing, I personally have no desire to be in anyones flock.
Like you my wife Rosie and I are both Artists/musicians and we are also very spiritually inclined, so he won't be wanting us amongst his followers, Baa.
I doubt very much that you, Maximise will find many people here ready to take you on as their leader. The majority here are Free souls thats why they are here, the ones looking for leaders are sitting in front of their televisions or tugging on the priests cassock.
The EGO desires recognition, control and power over others we have to leave our ego's behind and accept to share the responsibility of decision making.
Arguably some people need and want to be guided, like the weak willed the mentally handicapped and of course young children and we all have a responsibility to help those individuals who ask for help. I never imagined that any of the ground crew members would want to follow a leader it seems so strange to me, isn't that where humanity up till now has gone wrong.
Thankx again Dakini7 I hope we meet one day,
Bye for now, Peter.:lmao:

Well Said Peter

Hows things going on ur land ? well i hope

chat soon

Peace and Blessings
lindsay

[Dakini7]

Points of clarification,

1.0 I am Leader O (meaning of) Aotearoa Waka, which is a movement of people, the network of which I speak.

Appointed by whom?

2.0 Its unfortunate that some people propogate negativity, if someone choses not to associate with someone else out of free choice.

What is your definition of propagating negativity? What grounds did you choose to not associate with me, when you knew so little about me? What does free choice mean to you - does it mean free choice to "rule" your group with ego, or conscious free choice?

3.0 It is disrespectful to sway the purpose of this forum from the building of networks, to creating an atmosphere is distrust amongst people.

Exactly my point, I think you may be a little lost Maximise. Yes, this forum is for building networks. It's not a forum for you to set up on, call yourself a leader, then go about rejecting and approving individuals from a formative group.

4.0 Not all colored people are dishonest, and ignorance of a culture is no excuse not to share unconditional love (aroha) and compassion by leading by a good example.

What have colored people got to do with the cost of eggs? Please explain. How are you leading by a good example, and where is your unconditional love and compassion?

5.0 Comments like these on this forum makes me dispair at times, I often wonder what happened to respect and compassion in people.

EXACTLY MY POINT - SO PLEASE EXPLAIN YOURSELF, then everything will be transparent, understood and resolved, so ALL can move forward TOGETHER, not separate because of one man's ego based judgements and framework.

Thanks.

[MAXIMISE]

The point of cognitive dissidence is being enacted just in a matter of a few posts, Aotearoa Waka is a movement of LEADERS not sheep, those of you who have come to conclusions based on third party insights and guidence are behaving like sheep, in order for me to be YOUR leader, you would have to be members of Aotearoa Waka, so please stop being negative, and think in the light, look for good things not bad, there is beauty in all people, if you live in fear, then you will attack anything or anyone to the detriment of the whole.

Can you see how negative activites gives you purpose, and how you compound fear, you band together and draw your blades, imagine if I was a stranger after the event and stumbled into your camp, i would say, I would be seen as a threat and dispactched in short notice.

A question: If a real alien space craft crashed in your community, would you put a gun to the aliens head and blow its brains out, because you didn't understand it, or would you leave them in peace?

[Dakini7]

Maximise, it may help if you address the questions raised, and speak in terms everyone can understand...not just a dialogue that you understand.

I would like to understand you, and come to a space of peace and union rather than separation, hence my furthering this discussion.

It seems we have the same goal in mind, my invitation to you is to become transparent, so all can understand one another and move forward together.

Blessings.

[MAXIMISE]

With all due respect, interacting with people that demonstrate such behaviour will only endorse and condone this kind of manipulative mind set.

I have no interest in such people, I am only interested in people who are patient and empathetic, leaders in their own right.

Please contact me, if your have a genuine concern for the young people and the children.

[Dakini7]

Maximise....enough said really. You've made it clear from your lack of interest in resolution, understanding, unity, transparency and TRUTH...as to where you operate from. Personally, I would not want to found community with someone like you, as I function completely differently. I hope that you find others like you, to build with - as that seems to be your MO. Or maybe, you'll choose to look outside the square, and accept all beings regardless of occupation, beliefs & ages, and realise that YOUR way is not necessarily the RIGHT way. Ah, the grip of the ego, it is still so tight with some...

I think this is a great example to illustrate that there will most likely be different groups operating in the one localised area, due to differences in consciousness, beliefs, and frameworks.

Maybe this has occurred to remind people to be careful about who they affiliate with...just because we're all here with a similar goal in mind, does not mean we should all go and expect everyone else to function consciously, fairly, ethically & justly.

Personally, I think it's going to take a bit of sifting, to find the gold...for each and every one of us.

Blessings to all.

[MAXIMISE]

A good website to get your answers from is http://www.alienlovebite.com/

I hope this helps you with your personal issues.

[Dakini7]

Um...yeah, right. Thanks. You're SO right. Now excuse me whilst I go and cry myself to sleep.

This conversation is a waste of digital breath.

:lmfao:

[Dakini7]

Oh yeah, sorry to the rest of the NZ Ground Crew for hijacking your thread. Carry on :winksmiley02:

[MAXIMISE]

Eve Lorgen from http://www.alienlovebite.com/ has done some amazing work, I agree with her findings, she is very astute and intellectual.

The shear numbers of people that have suffered from the situation that she describes in mind blowing.

There are good radio interviews on her web site as well as other material. I have a lot of time and respect of Eve and I do recommend that you become farmiliar with her work.

[Carol]

Hi Anasazi and everyone. I will fly to NZ 13.september. I am interested in sustainable independent houses called earthships... so mainly Iam going there to get some practical experiences with them, helping some people and communities to build them. I wont to Join and live with waken people in community, but now I am still learning about survival, alternative energies and stuff to be able to contribute more. Iam flexible enought to go enywhere and meet anybody who wont to start community. Peter, can I have a look how are you doing on your place when i am near?

Do anybody knows about this ones?
http://directory.ic.org/21812/Earthwise_Valley
http://www.savita.co.nz/

Hi,

We went to live in an earthship in Taos, New Mexico and learned how to build one. Basically, the walls are made out of used tires rammed with earth and stacked like a mm.

The roof is designed to collect water which flows down into cisterns located at the ends of the structure and are underground. The structure is build 4 feet down into the ground to keep an ambient temperture in the 70s inside year round irrespective of how hot or cold it gets outside. Windows face south where the winter sun is located as the entire south end is designed to be a green house where one can grow banana trees and their own food.. it would be easy to design an aquaponic system inside on the south end.

Google earthships - Taos, New Mexico

Go to www.friendlyaquaponics.com for how to do an aquaponics system

[Carmen]

With all due respect, interacting with people that demonstrate such behaviour will only endorse and condone this kind of manipulative mind set.

I have no interest in such people, I am only interested in people who are patient and empathetic, leaders in their own right.

Please contact me, if your have a genuine concern for the young people and the children.
Hello I feel the need to jump in here. I am also from New Zealand. Kurow in the South Island. I would like at this time to remind Kiwis of there inate tolerance compassion and can do attitudes. Everyone has their own way of approaching any situation. I insist on my own guidance, my own leadership, and I also acknowledge everyone elses sense of their own form of leadership. Everyone needs to be able to express themselves without attack. Some peoples frequency is not compatible. It takes many different threads, colours, textures, luminosity to make a fine tapestry.

[Barron]

Hi Carmen.

Amen! Well said!


Barron
Auckland

[MAXIMISE]

Hi Carol, perhaps when you come, you would like to visit Aunty Rose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhTaL3R8tmY (Dr. Rangimarie Turuki Rose Pere), I have Aunty's contact details if you wish to e-mail her. You can google her name as well, there many web sites that feature Aunty.

[Carmen]

Hi Maximise, I remember your Aunt, Rose Pere. She is awesome, she just shines. Truly a wise woman. I first heard her speak at the Ithaca conference in Christchurch in '94 (I think) I have also watched her u-tube interview.

[MAXIMISE]

Hi , yes she is very much in tune with The Source, one thing that people should be aware of though in Aotearoa, Aunty says that the leadership - stewardship of the land will come back to the Maori, as this is the natural law, that Indigenous people of that land will re-aquire their responsibility as caretakers of the land.

This is why it is important to consult with the local Iwi if you are going to set up a community, so everything is done in consultation and blessing, as statute law has very little meaning with universal law and natural law/ lore.

[Barron]

Hey Maximise.

So, you're related to Rose? That's waaaay cool! My wife and I have studied under Franchelle re the NZ First Light Flower Essences and they are magnificent. :original:

Cheers
Barron
Auckland

[reZak]

Thankx Dakini7, like you I believe we should be open and truthfull on this forum.
I contacted Maximise myself after reading his 1st post but when I saw he signed himself leader the warning lights started flashing, I personally have no desire to be in anyones flock.
Like you my wife Rosie and I are both Artists/musicians and we are also very spiritually inclined, so he won't be wanting us amongst his followers, Baa.
I doubt very much that you, Maximise will find many people here ready to take you on as their leader. The majority here are Free souls thats why they are here, the ones looking for leaders are sitting in front of their televisions or tugging on the priests cassock.
The EGO desires recognition, control and power over others we have to leave our ego's behind and accept to share the responsibility of decision making.
Arguably some people need and want to be guided, like the weak willed the mentally handicapped and of course young children and we all have a responsibility to help those individuals who ask for help. I never imagined that any of the ground crew members would want to follow a leader it seems so strange to me, isn't that where humanity up till now has gone wrong.
Thankx again Dakini7 I hope we meet one day,
Bye for now, Peter.

Nice line peter. I wanted to contact you privately, but it did not work, probably becouse you did not subscribe? We were in contact before...
Have you got a permit for cal-earth building? I have seen them on workshop in taupo. I would like to visit and help you with building or just have a look how are you doing. I travel with my friend, we have a tent. I would like to visit you soon, maybe 14 days from now or so...
We hitch-hike, no car... could you give us some directions please???
marian.risko@atlas.cz
I hope we will see your art.

walk with smile

[Ross H]

Hello fellow ground crews in NZ. I'm a kiwi living in queensland OZ, have been for 2.5 yrs now. I moved here due to easier access to self sufficiant living. I bought 46 acres, solar powered, rain water (plenty of rain in my area) 70,000 ltrs, 2x dams, generator and excellent growing conditions, all year round. Plenty of sun and good govt rebates on solar. Sadley it was to expensive to set up in NZ and the lack of sun.

I applaud all of you there in your quest to fight the PTB. I have noticed many more ppls awakening than when I left. :roll1:

I read above about the no nukes ships allowed in NZ, of course this has been the case since David Longe was PM, however....nuke subs have been in NZ waters for years, Major secret spy stations in different locations, Southern Stewart Is is of major concern with big airstrip and god knows what else is there, this is world heritage area and OFF limits to the public...big black unmarked herc type aircraft fly in and out of this area and I have seen personally in southern sth Is. There is far more covert secret **** going on in NZ than most ppls realize. It has been a testing ground for all sorts for 30 yrs and more...most kiwi's go about life oblivious to whats going on right under there noses...Auckland 10yrs ago, Painted apple-moth, Akland was sprayed heavily with posion, 6 times over my old house, I bailed until it was over, OZ is the same, PTB all over the area, pine gap the most notorious...its everywhere, nowhere is immune, BUT in saying that I would rather be in the southern hemisphere than elsewhere...OZ suits me for the self sufficiant living...
Love and peace to all my fellow Kiwis...

[mudra]

Friends visit my thread: Radiant zones and community building...Where are we up to ?

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15480

loving kindness
mudra

[Barron]

Hello fellow ground crews in NZ. I'm a kiwi living in queensland OZ, have been for 2.5 yrs now. I moved here due to easier access to self sufficiant living. I bought 46 acres, solar powered, rain water (plenty of rain in my area) 70,000 ltrs, 2x dams, generator and excellent growing conditions, all year round. Plenty of sun and good govt rebates on solar. Sadley it was to expensive to set up in NZ and the lack of sun.

I applaud all of you there in your quest to fight the PTB. I have noticed many more ppls awakening than when I left. :roll1:

I read above about the no nukes ships allowed in NZ, of course this has been the case since David Longe was PM, however....nuke subs have been in NZ waters for years, Major secret spy stations in different locations, Southern Stewart Is is of major concern with big airstrip and god knows what else is there, this is world heritage area and OFF limits to the public...big black unmarked herc type aircraft fly in and out of this area and I have seen personally in southern sth Is. There is far more covert secret **** going on in NZ than most ppls realize. It has been a testing ground for all sorts for 30 yrs and more...most kiwi's go about life oblivious to whats going on right under there noses...Auckland 10yrs ago, Painted apple-moth, Akland was sprayed heavily with posion, 6 times over my old house, I bailed until it was over, OZ is the same, PTB all over the area, pine gap the most notorious...its everywhere, nowhere is immune, BUT in saying that I would rather be in the southern hemisphere than elsewhere...OZ suits me for the self sufficiant living...
Love and peace to all my fellow Kiwis...

Hi Jross

Nice post thanks. Did you say the huge airstrip is on Stewart Island? Don't suppose you can see it on Google Earth?

Apparenty over in Oz you have another Underground Base at Mt Ziel in Nthn Territories. And apparently the biggest airstrip is at Clonburry or Clonberry? Whereby Australia is also meant to have huge aircraft fly in and out too.

So, what else covert in NZ? Keen to hear.
Cheers
Barron
Auckland

[Ross H]

Hi Barron,:original:

yes Oz is full of covert, secret op's and have heard a few weeks ago the NWO is making OZ its home base??? I have to research this some more!

Pine gap is supposedly a star-gate facility as well as Alien underground facilities...

NZ is interesting...some background info: The late Hon Robert Muldoon, ex prime Minister, free mason. When he was finance minister under then prime minister Keith Holyoak, he was also treasurer of the world bank. He was reconigsed as a very talented mind and was told to get NZ into debt. While finance minister NZ was in the black to the tune of some 2 million dollars, NO debt at all! When he became Prime minister he started the "THINK BIG" projects. Refinaries, Clyde dam, Smelters, military and others. This was the begining of our debt which is now in the tune of 100's of billions of which we have only ever paid back some interest. Typical "get them into debt syndrome" as seen through out the world. Roger Douglas was another follow on...NZ has been an easy target to experiment with global financial dependency and tech such as the first country to fully embrace EFTPOS, mobile ph's, cloning and other "trial' experiments, small population base, easy to convince, easy to control.

North Head...Davenport...always a suspect for underground, under water activities, areas where public are not allowed. Spy stations near Bulls. Our "anti nuke" stance is really a joke. I am convinced that usa nuke subs have been in our waters since the war. Also there have been a few 33 degree masons with outrageous power's of which my late Uncle was one of them!

NZ is as corrupt as you can imagine! Also several years ago my Father also a mason said to me when HELEN CLERK won second term that one day she will be head of the UN??? well here she is at position 3 of the UN. Hmmm you gotta start to think WTF???

However this is typical of all of the west so no biggy really tho many kiwis think we are a green clean soveriegn country tho we are under the british monarcy and dictated to as such.

peace and love to all...

[Peter]

Welcome jross, Hello everyone its nice to see this page being used again.
I read a few years back that more than 10,000 retired American Air Force, Army and Navy officers had already moved to Oz, to the Pinegap area if i remember right. They don't want to be in the states when Alex Jones gets the civil war going, which looks like soon.
jross do you know about the loveforlife site http://loveforlife.com.au/ run by Arthur & Fiona Chrstian, their looking for a place to create a Kindom with fellow kinsmen, your place sounds ideal for one.
My wife Rosie and I are living on the Wonderfully wild wet west coast of the South island where we will be creating a Kindom with like minded Earthlings, we all seem to be from somewhere else down here. Hope you and anyone else reading this will pop in for a cuppa one day, you never know you just feel like staying a while. See you's then, Bye for now, Peter & Rosie.

[Ross H]

Welcome jross, Hello everyone its nice to see this page being used again.
I read a few years back that more than 10,000 retired American Air Force, Army and Navy officers had already moved to Oz, to the Pinegap area if i remember right. They don't want to be in the states when Alex Jones gets the civil war going, which looks like soon.
jross do you know about the loveforlife site http://loveforlife.com.au/ run by Arthur & Fiona Chrstian, their looking for a place to create a Kindom with fellow kinsmen, your place sounds ideal for one.
My wife Rosie and I are living on the Wonderfully wild wet west coast of the South island where we will be creating a Kindom with like minded Earthlings, we all seem to be from somewhere else down here. Hope you and anyone else reading this will pop in for a cuppa one day, you never know you just feel like staying a while. See you's then, Bye for now, Peter & Rosie.

Hello Peter and Rosie, What a lovely offer and be sure if Im down that way I will join your lovely company for a cuppa. Thank you. I have always loved the wild west coast...excellent!

I have been thinking about my place??? I live here alone tho that was not the idea...I had a plan which didnt work out as my very good friend who was going to join me here could not leave the country.

My place is wonderful, however I have a mortgage, 200k, i have 40k in savings and am not working due to a spinal condition which left me unable to work. However this produced postive outcomes due to me spending time on my own and really getting into the nuts n bolts of myself...

I have been unsure as what to do with the property as Im afraid if things get worse financially I will be forced to sell, if that happens then Im better off selling now as I will end with more in my pocket than I would later selling.

I have thought hard about partnership/community type investment to keep the property but as you all are aware it comes down to the right ppls, kindred spirits, some skills, grief free living, high vibrational energy souls with there ego's in check. and above all the ability to love and understand what we are facing.

I am open to this type of kingdom/living so any suggestions please advise.

I will look at Arther and Fiona's site, thank you for that.

peace always

Ross:original:

[Barron]

Hi Ross

Your place does indeed sound nice. Potentially you might be able to connect with a like-minded soul or souls that may be able to assist you on this Forum perhaps? Not sure what you had in mind, but am sure with a good plan, and you posting what it is that you are seeking, would yield positive results?

And also, if you or Peter and Rosie visit Piha anytime in the future you'd also be welcome for a cuppa!

Cheers
Barron

[Ross H]

Hi Barron,

Thankyou for the kind offer and suggestions, most positive.

I am in AK usually 3monthly as my 2 daughters, my ex and very good friend and my Mum live in Riverhead. I will most certainly let you know when Im there next as would love to visit for a cuppa and a chat, thank you.:original:

peace to you my friend.:thumb_yello:

[Waterman]

Hi New Zealand Ground Crew,

It has been a long time since I have been on the forum but there is some interest in finding communities in New Zealand from some folks that listen to my radio broadcast, The Waterman Files on Argusoogradio.org

Please feel free to contact our community coordinator at community@mailvault.com and visit us at the new site
http://thejohnchronicles.wordpress.com

Hope to hear from you.

John Waterman

[caspyan]

I'm planning on GETTING OUT of NZ as I believe almost all the country will sink during a pole-shift. The country is very flat and cannot survive tidal waves - I discovered the highest South Island town is Arthurs pass (its tiny with a few dozen people who live there year round). The most worrying thing is the North Island is full of VOLCANOS (Auckland city has around 10). There's a massive earthquake fault running through Wellington & the South Island - see image below (sorry the faultline through Wellington is NOT shown here).
http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/06_Earth_Changes/06_Earth_Change_pics/060824.NZ.Alpine.fault.jpg

The North Island has huge volcanoes running down its middle (one erupted in the 1990s & another erupted in the 19th Century destroying the "Pink & White terraces" - the 8th wonder of the world). Here's a picture of the Kermadec Trench just to the right of the North Island & you can see "train tracks" to the North of the North Island - the huge volcanoes run in the middle of these train-tracks down the North Is - see picture:
http://feww.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/ausie-plate-alpine-fault.jpg

You'll need to research some of my above points yourself as I can't explain everything in detail in one post.

[Peter]

So Caspyan, where are you going to run to ???...
Did you know that Arnold Schwartzeneger is having a $9 million house built at Queenstown.
I'd imagine someone like him would be in the "know" if there was going to be any trouble here, even if he's as thick as a donkey's fore skin. Also lots of Illuminati are moving to NZ and Aus, there are already over 10,000 retired American military officers living around Pine Gap in western Australia where there's supposed to be an alien base.
I'm not at all worried about the pole shift my intuition sayz we're safe here, remember we create our own reality so if you think you're gonna get caught up in a natural disaster it will follow you where ever you are.
Why don't you start building an Ark or buy an old life boat from the coast guard and plonk it on top of a mountain somewhere and just wait.......
Good luck, Luv an stuf, Peter.

[caspyan]

Peter, there's no need to be sarcastic and tell me "to build an ark" - I'm only presenting facts, and sharing my conclusions from them. You asked where I'm going to run to - this is difficult because I saw a world map with safe zones on Avalon - one safe zone is a circle through Mongolia & Russia (- impossible to move there because of bureaucracy), and the other circle was through South America (- land prices here have gone from almost zero to thousands of dollars an acre, so I cannot afford it even though countries like Paraguay & Guatemala has easy citizenship programmes).

So I'm continuing to learn and I hope after 21/12/2012 when nothing happens land prices will drop down in South America, so its possible to move there.

By the way the elite are building houses in all continents to have back up plans - e.g. the Queen owns land in every continent - including Denver airport where there's a big underground base - see "Conspiracy Theory 2012" by Jesse Ventura on youtube - VERY INTERESTING.

[Ross H]

I'm planning on GETTING OUT of NZ as I believe almost all the country will sink during a pole-shift. The country is very flat and cannot survive tidal waves - I discovered the highest South Island town is Arthurs pass (its tiny with a few dozen people who live there year round). The most worrying thing is the North Island is full of VOLCANOS (Auckland city has around 10). There's a massive earthquake fault running through Wellington & the South Island - see image below (sorry the faultline through Wellington is NOT shown here).
http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/06_Earth_Changes/06_Earth_Change_pics/060824.NZ.Alpine.fault.jpg

The North Island has huge volcanoes running down its middle (one erupted in the 1990s & another erupted in the 19th Century destroying the "Pink & White terraces" - the 8th wonder of the world). Here's a picture of the Kermadec Trench just to the right of the North Island & you can see "train tracks" to the North of the North Island - the huge volcanoes run in the middle of these train-tracks down the North Is - see picture:
http://feww.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/ausie-plate-alpine-fault.jpg

You'll need to research some of my above points yourself as I can't explain everything in detail in one post.

Hi,
Volcanoes are a conspicuous feature of the Auckland city landscape. In some cases their form is emphasised by their preservation as reserves and parks, while in others they have been quarried to meet the city’s demand for building materials. Within a radius of about 20km centred on Auckland city there are 49 discrete volcanoes; this is the area referred to as the Auckland volcanic field.

Although it is at least 600 years since the last eruption in the Auckland volcanic field, there is every reason to expect eruptions in the future.

These eruptions are likely to be on a small scale compared with some recent overseas eruptions, but because the city of Auckland is built on and around potential eruption sites their effects are likely to be serious.

I agree New Zealand could be a dangerouse place if there is serious movement along the pacific rim.

Peace

[HaveBlue]

Great post and graphic Ross. The only reason NZ exists is because of what you've posted. Where I am is extinct volcano area in Dunedin. I live beneath a 12,500 one.
We get little movements often, They are small though.
But I like it here. I would get out if and when I had to.

[Nighthawk]

Just thought I would stick my noise in and say hi...

so hi..

will lerk for a while before getting involved in any in deepth threads... :smoke:

[Barron]

Hi New Zealand Ground Crew,

It has been a long time since I have been on the forum but there is some interest in finding communities in New Zealand from some folks that listen to my radio broadcast, The Waterman Files on Argusoogradio.org

Please feel free to contact our community coordinator at community@mailvault.com and visit us at the new site
http://thejohnchronicles.wordpress.com

Hope to hear from you.

John Waterman

Hi John

What sort of communities are your listeners hoping to connect with for what sort of purposes? May be able to help.

Namaste - Barron

[Ross H]

Greetings,

Ross will be returning to NZ end of April for an 8 week stint...very much looking forward to grounding again in Aotearoa.

Family and friends to share with and many new experiences awaiting!:original:

Peace

[HaveBlue]

Another Dunnners person! HaveBlue was the 2/3 scale prototype of the Nighthawk- Fancy that!
That's the F117 Stealth fighter that was really a bomber for the non aviation folks.
Welcome.:welcomeani:

[Nighthawk]

Another Dunnners person! HaveBlue was the 2/3 scale prototype of the Nighthawk- Fancy that!
That's the F117 Stealth fighter that was really a bomber for the non aviation folks.
Welcome.:welcomeani:

Yes it was.... ;) Click Here (http://images.google.co.nz/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=HaveBlue%20&oq=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)
Nighthawk is my ummm nick name I have had since 5... now 40 odd its more a spiritual name ;)

[Nighthawk]

So is there any happenings with the Great Gathering here in NZ?



http://www.thegreatgathering.org/
http://www.bluestarprophecy.com/