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Bill Ryan
11-17-2008, 05:45 PM
Hi, All:
After a long spell of traveling, Kerry and I now have a more stable spell in front of us - at least for a few weeks. I'm in Zurich, and Kerry is in Sedona. We'll each be doing one or two interviews on our own, just for logistical reasons. (I'm delighted to be meeting Jim Humble, the inventor of MMS (http://www.healthwithmms.com), this Friday at a conference in Germany.)
We had a long moderators' teleconference last night - our first - and one of the things we talked about is how come some members have sometimes misunderstood our intentions, background, plans, and a number of other things about us and the way we work.
This is puzzling to us, because Kerry and I are the most open and transparent people. We've posted quite a lot here and elsewhere about our plans, and who we are, and why we do what we do - but this easily gets lost, and some members, specially new ones, or people unfamiliar with Project Camelot (http://projectcamelot.org), may still not know much about us.
So this thread here is for members to ask any questions they like. We're happy to talk about or answer anything, as long as we're not asked to reveal any information we regard as confidential (i.e. to protect our Camelot witnesses). We look forward to hearing from everyone here.
Very best wishes to all, Bill and Kerry
freekatz
11-17-2008, 05:53 PM
I've always found both of your intentions to be very clear, I think some people just love to cast aspersions and throw doubt around (just my tuppance ha'penny!)
Personally I am very grateful to both of you for Project Avalon, the information you have put out has really opened me up to a whole new perspective on life and I really appreciate both of you providing this information freely for all of us.
Sorry, it wasn't really a question for you I just get tired of the nitpicking that goes on:thumbdown:
sammytray
11-17-2008, 05:56 PM
Hi, All:
After a long spell of traveling, Kerry and I now have a more stable spell in front of us - at least for a few weeks. I'm in Zurich, and Kerry is in Sedona. We'll each be doing one or two interviews on our own, just for logistical reasons. (I'm delighted to be meeting Jim Humble, the inventor of MMS (http://www.healthwithmms.com), this Friday at a conference in Germany.)
We had a long moderators' teleconference last night - our first - and one of the things we talked about is how come some members have sometimes misunderstood our intentions, background, plans, and a number of other things about us and the way we work.
This is puzzling to us, because Kerry and I are the most open and transparent people. We've posted quite a lot here and elsewhere about our plans, and who we are, and why we do what we do - but this easily gets lost, and some members, specially new ones, or people unfamiliar with Project Camelot (http://projectcamelot.org), may still not know much about us.
So this thread here is for members to ask any questions they like. We're happy to talk about or answer anything, as long as we're not asked to reveal any information we regard as confidential (i.e. to protect our Camelot witnesses). We look forward to hearing from everyone here.
Very best wishes to all, Bill and Kerry
What is the procedure involved when "whistleblowing"? Depending on the magnitude of the "information" would you be able to forward the information or set up the contact to get the information out?
Orion Morris
11-17-2008, 06:02 PM
Hi Bill,
Nice to hear from you! Hope everything is going good. I know that your message has been lost from time to time. I think it has alot to do with people and their desire to believe any type of conspiracy that they come across. Then they become overly paranoid and start pointing fingers when they cant find the absolute truth. Sometimes people become paranoid of you and Kerry. It has nothing to do with you, it is just some peoples natural behavior.
I was wondering, no offence, why some of the moderators are allowed to "moderate" ideas and opinions that conflict with their personal beliefs. Yet many opinions that contradict with avalons mission are allowed to stay. I think that at times their is over zealous moderating going on. Some of the people who have been banned I think are being kicked out for the wrong reasons. I feel like it is wrong to censor ideas and opinions when most of us are here based on the same or very similar idea. Conflicts and arguements are bound to happen and are unavoidable at this point. I am not upset with anything, I was just concerned with some of the censoring that has taken place.
You are both doing a wonderful job! Thank you for all your hard work!!!
Best wishes and love!
Orion Morris
dayzero
11-17-2008, 06:03 PM
That's a great idea, and thanks for the forum, sites and the overall project.
Oh yeah..... a question;
What do you think of this Terrence McKenna 'Vision'......?
Part 1;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLFSz5zCs5o&feature=related
Part 2;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVaWPdcLLIM&NR=1
Flying Pyramid
11-17-2008, 06:03 PM
Hello Bill & Kerry.
I for one would like to say thank you for doing what you do.
I am glad to have such a place to visit and share what knowledge i have to offer and gain more knowledge than what i arrived with.
I am/was a web hosting and forum hosting provider and a 3D studio owner and i will say to everyone that running such a business in hard. Not so much money wise but the support, contacts, travel, let alone what negative energy you may get thrown at you depending on the content of your venture.
I posted Free DC Energy a couple of days ago and things seem to be alright, then early yesterday i posted the drive engine mechanics for the basic starships and a couple of hours later my service once again was shut down. So i reuploaded the images and files to a new hidden server and will march on reguardless.
The only question i have for you is have you contimplated the idea of omni-self remote viewing? Being able to "wake up" in your body in a different paralell timeline?
Xhaosis
11-17-2008, 06:03 PM
Not sure if it is you I seek to understand... Maybe you are not even sure... Yet even as happen stance occurs We are here... May peace be with you... We are yet always looking for something.. Searching for something... Don't be worried about it, since their is so much to be scared of today... We'll get it right sooner or later... Just when... Or how much resembles on how we see the World... Today and tomorrow.. Yet no matter how scared we are, it comes back to the absence of information.. Sooner or later... We'll get it right... Its how you see this world...
Halo Bill,
Thanks for the opportunity to answer some questions here!
My only question is:
In your many interviews with the whistleblowers from different fields and experiences of life, how you and Kerry can be sure, that information from all these people(whistleblowers) you receive is credible?
What are the criteria of trust you are trying to follow within the information you pass later on internet?
Peace!
starman
11-17-2008, 06:33 PM
Any updates on Gordon Novel and the RAM group? In the PC interview he said that they will begin massproducing energy devices at the end of this decade. How is that going?
Delphi
11-17-2008, 06:33 PM
with appreciation and gratitude for everything you and Kerry do, can I ask if I have missed on PC whistleblower testimony about chemtrails, and if it's not on PC already, is there anything you can release that satisfies your 90% credibility rating without compromising your sources.
it just seems to me that it must be a large operation to spread chemtrails and somebody involved must have doubts about what they are doing.
best wishes
Jacqui D
11-17-2008, 06:44 PM
All your work has been greatly appreciated Bill and Kerry and i for one wish to thank you for opening this site.
Whilst i know there has been many conflicts ,there have been many positive connections with some lovely people.
I would like to thank you again for making that possible.
:wink2::wink2::wink2:
ghglenn
11-17-2008, 06:47 PM
Hey Bill,
I too want to thank you for all the work you guys are doing. I have to say
that from all the information that has been provided, both from Camelot and from Avalon,
that the HPH stuff from Cliff and George seems the most tactile.
You come across as someone who really looks at the "nuts and bolts" of things.
Do you feel that their "science" is good? The reason I ask is that I have become very
skeptical of prophets/channelers of late, not that they aren't receiving a message,
just that those messages may be tainted, especially now.
Obviously, we all know the economy is gonna tank, change is on the horizon, etc.
I just want to know what is "resonating" with you?
Thanks
Karen
11-17-2008, 07:01 PM
I see many speculations being posted all over the place about your intentions, funding and background, and future plans. I'd like to posts corrections where ever possible and want to make sure I have the facts straight.
How has your project been funded?
Some have proclaimed you have funding from George Green or the like.
Another stated as fact, surely you are not using your retirement funds.
Speculations like: If you charge a fee for the forum, you will make Mega Millions of dollars and plan to go find yourself an elite spot to buy into to save yourself from the coming storm.
How do you anwser to those who say:
I knew they were agents all along.
I think that's about all I've seen to date. Imaginations do run wild out there.
Thank you,
Karen
Jenny
11-17-2008, 07:11 PM
Hi Bill,
Great! Just great to have you around a bit more.
Thanks,:wub2:
Jenny
eurosceptic
11-17-2008, 07:28 PM
hi bill n kerry :welcomeani: when why and how did you decide to start project camelot and what is/are your favourite interview(s)?
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
11-17-2008, 07:43 PM
i think the detractors could well be schills... buts thats something thast may be dificult to figure out.. i was never in any doubt about your intentions :).. ive PM you about and australian story if your interested.. you may have lready been involved in this story and with the said people i have mentioned.. take care matt :)
Dantheman62
11-17-2008, 09:45 PM
How's Boriska doing?
Nebula
11-17-2008, 09:59 PM
Hi Bill and Kerry,
Thanks for opening up this thread for the many whom have questions. I agree, people should familiarize themselves with Project Camelot first. As with anything new, its a learning experience and hope this evolves and develops into something bigger and better for the betterment of all of us.
peace,
Nebula
sunflower
11-17-2008, 10:11 PM
Hi Bill and Kerry, now that I have the opportunity I can't seem to think of a question not yet asked. Just happy to have you back and communicating with us. I wholeheartedly support your mandates for Camelot and Avalon. May the good work continue... Blessings Diane
happyhollergal
11-17-2008, 10:12 PM
Bill, I really appreciate you posting this message. I am very new to all of this UFO and Insider information. I live in North Carolina, and until I saw "something" September 23rd of this year, I was a complete nonbeliever in all of this. A friend of mine had me to watch a video with Bob Dean and Neil Freer, and from there I did a search for Bob Dean which resulted in my finding Project Camelot. It was the interviews that Kerry and yourself did that peeked my attention and began my journey into a world completely unknown to me. I see your work as extremely valuable, and I believe that you are both sincere in your efforts. My problem is that when I signed on to Avalon, I was looking for information on survival and truthful information on the ET situation, but I found much that I read was not what I was needing to help me know which direction to grow in. I found myself coming here less and less. I still sign in occasionally in hopes of it being what I believe you and Kerry meant for it to be. Whatever happens with Avalon, I want you to know there are many newly awakened people out here that look to you and Kerry to help open our eyes. We need you and we thank you.
Steven
11-17-2008, 10:13 PM
I'de like to know if you plan to meet Marshall Vian Summers? Thank you for your dedication and commitment. Steven
Orion11
11-17-2008, 10:38 PM
Hi Bill,
Thanks! I think for the most part, people know that Kerry and yourself are very kosher, very good people. I think that all the people who really have some grasp on all of this, know that your intentions and actions are good.
No worries.
Thanks allot for everything.
and i cant wait for the Jim Humble interview!! wow, i just learned about this stuff a few days ago, and was about to put a couple orders in. lol
Very niice.
*deep bows*
Blessings
Andy
weareone
11-17-2008, 11:14 PM
My question is... How do you balance the output of suplying uncensored information against negative ouput. i.e if we are all co-creating our future via our expressed emotions, should we be listening to people such as bill deagle stating negative posibilities for the future into the mass conciousness (such as the death of the soul) that would put some viewers into the 'fear vibration'?
P.s i dont have any issues against bill deagle in particular thats just the most recent example i came accross. Keep up the incredible work.
My thanks and blessings in anticipation of your answer, and taking the time out of your busy schedule. Love and light, peace.
dreb13
11-17-2008, 11:14 PM
Bill, I have a quick question regarding T1V83 (http://www.projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html)and Hillary Clinton. In a post here on Avalon back in September 2008, you had this to say (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3896&postcount=8):
If there is a weird twist of fate and circumstances somehow conspire (or people conspire!) to enable Hillary to be on the ticket after all - then head for the hills, because we will be in trouble. The probailty of this, though, looks very low indeed. It's not zero - because weird things CAN happen - but may be less than 1%.
It seems now that Hillary Clinton is going to be Obamas Secretary of State. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/17/hillary-clinton-secretary-of-state)
Do you see this bad news??
--------------------------------------
another tidbit:
The nature of timelines is such that - especially at the moment (if that's not too subtle a twist of the English language) - they are rather like a braided rope, composed of several different tangled strands. One 'strand' can influence an adjacent one if it is too 'close'.
In practice, this means that there can be an apparent diversion from a timeline, and (rather like pulling off a Freeway to a rest area and then rejoining the Freeway again) one can later find oneself back in the 'main flow'.
Hopefully we're not back on the same "freeway" again.
Thanks again Bill and Kerry for all that you do!
sleepingnomore
11-18-2008, 12:33 AM
I'm relatively new on the forum but I've been following your interviews for a long time now. What struck me about you both was the committment to reveal the truth. I know how hard that can be and the opposition and attacks it can draw to you. From my spirit to yours thank you for continuing your mission.
My question is regarding a recurring vision of a solar eclipse I keep getting. Does this mean anything to either of you in regards to a possible outcome or a possible time line?
historycircus
11-18-2008, 01:09 AM
Dear Bill and Kerry,
In what ways do your own spiritual beliefs guide your approach to these interviews, and your own intellectual digestions of what they have to say?
Do you believe in an "all-powerful" NWO/Illuminati/secret society? Do you believe we are far beyond saving ourselves, and if there is still time on the clock, how does that conflict with those who openly subscribe to the belief that the PTB control everything, and that we are doomed?
Kerry, do you still have the same passion for disclosure you had when you began Camelot? Bill, do you still have the same passion you had when you joined Kerry in her journey?
Thanks, on a bunch of different levels,
The HistoryCircus.
Dean Plejaren
11-18-2008, 01:09 AM
Hey Bill and Kerry I am really into your forum lately as you may have noticed! The people here are just interesting to interact with you attract interesting people i don't mean to be a pain.
This thread is a big task to try and make a dent in it while you have spare time is admirable and so is the willingness to clarify and listen to others all the time you guys are open minded and have a good sense of balance I respect that and think you guys are genuine but I have two major issues.
two questions to throw out here to you since you are offering.
1) How do you feel about someone that does not consider themself a guest on this forum or that it is private property and who does not agree to bind themself with certain written agreements over self leadership critical thinking and self responsibility. Do you think that it's unethical to dismiss the need for using rules or guidelines as a sort of crutch in which people use to point to why they made their decisions. Such as moderator conduct and such as users referring to conduct of others and themself.
2) Are you guys upset or do you reject anyone that decides your whistleblowers are likely traitors and or not worthy of attention or completely trustworthy that can possibly manipulate and who sees the entire means of getting this information immoral, unneeded and in most causes trivial information that is very much speculative. Do you reject the contributions of anyone that sees this secrecy as invalid to creating communities and a culture of freedom and wisdom that is needed in the changing times ahead.
I did my best to try and express what I meant. These are my main two issues that is all. Thanks guys.
quest
11-18-2008, 01:11 AM
..the inventor of MMS (http://www.healthwithmms.com)
wow..
before
http://www.healthwithmms.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/eliminate-parasites-02.jpg
and after
http://www.healthwithmms.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/eliminate-parasites-01.jpg
watchZEITGEISTnow
11-18-2008, 01:18 AM
Hi Bill and Kerry,
Just wondering if you have the same sensation of time and how fast it appears to be going lately?
Everyone I have asked in my life is agreeing even kids, and when I was a kid time seemed painfully slow and well 'stuck'.
So I guess I'm asking if you know anyone in your circle, that has some kind of explaination for this? Bizzare question I know.
Thanks!
wZn
First of all, I'd just like to say how impressed I am with the amount of work and dedication the two of you have put in, to try and shed light to the true reality that has been hidden behind the proverbial veil. Your efforts are both appreciated, and inspiring. My question is this. With your decision to focus more on future-related events, does this mean that your efforts with Project Camelot have been put on hold/ceased? I only ask, because as an avid viewer of the PC site/news/interviews, I would hate to see an end to what has become one of, if not the, most comprehensive whistle-blower/testimonial sites. Few, if any sites I've come across have had such in-depth interview sessions with such prominent names.
Thank you for everything, and keep up the excellent work!
Humble Janitor
11-18-2008, 01:51 AM
Dear Bill and Kerry,
When and why did you decide to start Projects Camelot and Avalon? Do you have some information about your backgrounds that you can share without compromising yourselves?
Martian Tigress
11-18-2008, 02:02 AM
When will you have interviews with either Lisette Larkins or Nancy Red Star? Nancy in particular would be very interesting, as she has written (and is continuing to write) books detailing Skyperson/Star Nations lore among Native American groups and has spoken with many tribal Elders in the course of compiling her material.
Peace,
Martian Tigress
THE eXchanger
11-18-2008, 02:33 AM
there's a 911 happening NOW ---
and, it's on project avalon/and, project camelot
The front page shows:
911 online (311 members and 600 guests) :mfr_lol:
(i thought, that was kind of funny !!!)
Anyway, just wanted to recognise,
the great work Bill & Kerry are doing,
along with the Moderators, Researchers, Whistleblowers,
and, everyone else who is here,
as, it truly is making a big difference,
i can feel it, in the air.
Looking forward to hearing your updates !
Brightest Blessings to all,
Susan ~ The eXchanger
Starlah
11-18-2008, 03:52 AM
Hi Bill and Kerry,
When are you visiting Canada? Heard Bill is going to reside in Australia (which I wonder about as the internet is going to be censored shortly) and Kerry are you going to stay in Sedona?
Wish there were more Canadians on this Forum...not that I don't really appreciate communicating with you all from diverse countries around the globe.
Enjoy being part of this Forum and feel Bill and Kerry you are doing a great job!
narain
11-18-2008, 04:29 AM
Hi Bill & Kerry,
When one school building in haiti collapsed, it was normal but when another school building there too collapsed (this news was very short and casualties were minimum)....is there some similarity bet bridge in minneapolis and this...may be i am thinking in exreams...please forgive me if am wrong in my thinking....
norman
11-18-2008, 01:18 PM
Hello Bill. Hello Kerry.
So you are going to make Avalon a subscriber only site. Carol must have been misled or she's misled me.
A couple of things.
I accept the change reluctantly. I'm a person who has no TV, no cell phone, no credit card and never borrows money. How can I conveniently pay you for a 12 month upfront subscription?
Could you possibly retain one single thread available for outsiders to post in?
A third item. You quickly distanced yourselves from Leo Zagami with only a summary explanation, could you explain that decision in more detail?
best wishes,
norman.
EYES WIDE OPEN
11-18-2008, 01:50 PM
Hi Bill & kerry. No question from me. Just a couple of words...
"Floodgates" & "opened" spring to mind. :lol3:
eurosceptic
11-18-2008, 02:16 PM
I was curious about Valery Uranov and your interview with him. Its not an interview you have used in reference and is not primary in your list of interviews. Is the quality of the interview or the information not good enough in your opinion, or irrelevant in the context of how you see things unfolding at the moment?
Cheers!:thumb_yello:
Bill Ryan
11-18-2008, 02:20 PM
I've always found both of your intentions to be very clear, I think some people just love to cast aspersions and throw doubt around (just my tuppance ha'penny!)
Personally I am very grateful to both of you for Project Avalon, the information you have put out has really opened me up to a whole new perspective on life and I really appreciate both of you providing this information freely for all of us.
Sorry, it wasn't really a question for you I just get tired of the nitpicking that goes on:thumbdown:
Thank you!
What is the procedure involved when "whistleblowing"? Depending on the magnitude of the "information" would you be able to forward the information or set up the contact to get the information out?
No special "procedure". People contact us in a number of ways. We always listen very carefully to what the whistleblower's concerns are. We usually recommend that sitting on sensitive information is more dangerous than getting it out there soonest, as one is likely to become LESS of a target having revealed something important.
Sometimes we choose not publish information, and retain it for our own research. This is the case, for instance, when we receive small items of very specific information which only really fit with other pieces of the large puzzle.
Sometimes we receive warnings of events on specific dates (financial, military or political), and we don't usually publish those at all unless it seems particularly significant or of overwhelming potential importance.
On at least one occasion we've received very substantial information but have been asked not to reveal anything because the whistleblower has a plan for revealing the story themselves later (e.g. setting up a website of their own, etc). We will always respect that, although we may offer advice from our own experience about optimum ways to proceed.
We will never reveal details of a whistleblower's identity without their consent, and occasionally we disguise a story (or a person's identity) in minor ways - or withhold certain critical details - to make it harder to for the person to be identified.
It's a judgement call every time. The whistleblower's personal safety is paramount and this has to be an axiom of the way we work. This is why Mary Lou calling the FBI on Henry Deacon was an unacceptable violation of our personal code.
Once we make that decision that it's important to do release information (and have the okay to do so), our options are (a) a video interview, (b) an audio interview, (c) an audio interview with disguised voice, (d) a written interview, or (e) a written report - in that order of preference. We may or may not disguise the person's name, depending on a number of factors.
Hi Bill,
Nice to hear from you! Hope everything is going good. I know that your message has been lost from time to time. I think it has alot to do with people and their desire to believe any type of conspiracy that they come across. Then they become overly paranoid and start pointing fingers when they cant find the absolute truth. Sometimes people become paranoid of you and Kerry. It has nothing to do with you, it is just some peoples natural behavior.
I was wondering, no offence, why some of the moderators are allowed to "moderate" ideas and opinions that conflict with their personal beliefs. Yet many opinions that contradict with avalons mission are allowed to stay. I think that at times their is over zealous moderating going on. Some of the people who have been banned I think are being kicked out for the wrong reasons. I feel like it is wrong to censor ideas and opinions when most of us are here based on the same or very similar idea. Conflicts and arguements are bound to happen and are unavoidable at this point. I am not upset with anything, I was just concerned with some of the censoring that has taken place.
You are both doing a wonderful job! Thank you for all your hard work!!!
Best wishes and love!
Orion Morris
Moderators should only be moderating posts or threads which breach forum rules. Sometimes, that's a matter of interpretation... such as, when is someone being offensive? People will always disagree (and the moderators often do, being fully human!) about the tone and intention behind a comment.
My personal strong view is that membership of the Avalon Forum is a privilege, and not a right. It's like inviting someone into your house. This is not a public place, like a park or a forest where people can do (almost) whatever they like.
If someone does come into your house, you'd be upset if they then started to criticize the food, the drinks, the furniture, your personal opinions, or the way you have dressed. You'd also be upset if they started to abuse the other guests. Therefore you might ask them to leave.
This is essentially what the moderators do. It's got nothing to do with personal beliefs - or should not have. It's got to do with the kind of energy that the member is bringing.
Some members are also certainly paid agents. This has to be understood. The intel agencies are very good at what they do and it's VERY easy to pretend to be someone on a forum and then gradually cause all kinds of trouble.
Spotting this is a tough job, but moderators become skilled in tracking a members' posts and picking up their real intentions.
Some members are mentally disturbed and need professional help. I say with with honesty and compassion. We know this to be the case with one ex-member and suspect it to be the case with another. On both cases, they have been asked to leave.
(Note: the word "banned" is not one we can change on the forum software. Personally, I would prefer a different word - because this often sounds brutal and sort of verbally violent, which is not our style - but there's absolutely nothing we can do about it as it's 'hardwired' into the code.)
Some threads are moved to other areas, and this is a judgement call. Some threads are hard to categorize, and a moderator may sometimes make a misjudgement. What has to be realized is that everyone is trying hard to do their best to make the forum a place that is easy to nagivate and find things in.
Here's one thing that's really important to say. Sometimes it LOOKS as if a thread has been deleted but it has not... it's been temporarily moved to a holding area for review. The mods have a large backlog of these, and have been gradually working through them.
When this happens, we are not able to change the message that the member gets when (e.g.) viewing a bookmarked thread which is that they "do not have permission" to access that thread.
We're not able to change that wording, and it too is unnecessarily brutal. We'd like to be able to explain what has happened, but often we can't. This is caused a LOT of misunderstandings, and accusations from members who are either out to cause trouble (or who don't understand, or choose not to understand, how these things work), that threads are being deleted.
In almost all cases, threads are NOT deleted. There are barely ANY reasonable reasons to delete threads.
The moderator team has been settling down, and Kerry and I are now delighted in the team we have. They are a bunch of very wonderful people, who work long hours with no pay to make this the best possible place for members to hang out. There's been quite a shake-down, and some who didn't agree with the values and ways of working that we wanted, have left.
That's fine, and is appropriate. In some cases we take responsibility for having made a bad choice when taking someone on (and those people have left). We fully support every member of the current moderating team.
There is no ill-will by us towards any mods who have left. We understand that some moderators, and some members, will prefer the style and values of other forums. That's fine. If members do not want to be here, we encourage them to leave.
[to be continued]
Orion Morris
11-18-2008, 02:33 PM
Thank you for your response! Much appreciation to you, Kerry, and all the mods! Avalon is a great place and I have a great amount of love and respect for everybody here. Even the people who I sometimes argue with!
Peace
Bill Ryan
11-18-2008, 02:47 PM
That's a great idea, and thanks for the forum, sites and the overall project.
Oh yeah..... a question;
What do you think of this Terrence McKenna 'Vision'......?
Part 1;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLFSz5zCs5o&feature=related
Part 2;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVaWPdcLLIM&NR=1
All those familiar with Project Camelot's work wil know that we embrace the idea of parallel alternative timelines. For us, these are very real - and are well understood and utilized in military classified projects and also by our extraterrestrial (or extratemporal!) visitors.
The branches in timelines may be frequent and (in the infinite universes model) may occur every time a free-willed person makes a choice. Branches will also occur when a time traveler goes back in time to alter an event.
I'm not sure if this is exactly what Terence McKenna is saying when he referred to a duplicate Earth being created at certain critical points in history... it sounded as if he was either meaning this in some literal sense (which I would say was nonsense), or was not explaining the above parallel timelines concept as simply as he could.
Hello Bill & Kerry.
I for one would like to say thank you for doing what you do.
I am glad to have such a place to visit and share what knowledge i have to offer and gain more knowledge than what i arrived with.
I am/was a web hosting and forum hosting provider and a 3D studio owner and i will say to everyone that running such a business in hard. Not so much money wise but the support, contacts, travel, let alone what negative energy you may get thrown at you depending on the content of your venture.
I posted Free DC Energy a couple of days ago and things seem to be alright, then early yesterday i posted the drive engine mechanics for the basic starships and a couple of hours later my service once again was shut down. So i reuploaded the images and files to a new hidden server and will march on reguardless.
The only question i have for you is have you contimplated the idea of omni-self remote viewing? Being able to "wake up" in your body in a different paralell timeline?
Yes, anyone who is 'swimming upstream' (as we are) can expect problems. These are often small and irritating (people don't usually get killed any more, just interfered with in various ways): deleted or missing files, interference on e-mails and hard drives, strange things happening on forums :). Your approach is the same as ours: march on regardless.
Re 'omni-self remote viewing', this is the first time I've heard that term. 'Waking up' in a parallel timeline has been reported by Whitley Strieber and Richard Bach, and probably happens at least sometimes to some of the more gifted remote viewers, such as David Morehouse and Ingo Swann.
Hallo Bill,
Thanks for the opportunity to answer some questions here!
My only question is:
In your many interviews with the whistleblowers from different fields and experiences of life, how you and Kerry can be sure, that information from all these people(whistleblowers) you receive is credible?
What are the criteria of trust you are trying to follow within the information you pass later on internet?
Peace!
We can't ever be totally sure... but we're really pretty confident. We get some information sometimes that we do not think is credible - and we don't publish that. We also have not interviewed some people who we do not think are credible.
But we don't try to DIScredit anyone, or knock anyone else's claims. We leave that to others. If we think someone 'out there' is problematic, we just ignore them and focus on what we believe is the positive.
This does NOT mean that everyone who we've not interviewed yet is not credible. Some people we'd love to meet and just have not yet made contact - or, in some cases, we have interviews planned or scheduled but they've just not happened yet.
We're well aware that some of our witnesses' testimony contradicts that of others. It's obvious when that's the case. We do believe that all our witnesses believe what they are telling us and are simply reporting what they understand, or have been told.
Not all witnesses have been told everything - for instance, while we believe that Dan Burisch's story is credible and important, we're as certain as we can be that he does not know of the real existence of other races of visitors beyond the four he has described. (There are likely to be dozens, or even hundreds, as far as we are able to judge.)
[to be continued]
Karen
11-19-2008, 05:44 AM
Alex Colllier has been out of the speaking loop for quite some time. He gave a talk recently that was mostly review. Maybe he has some new information.
elsinorelore
11-19-2008, 07:39 AM
Hello there, and great to see you are in Zurich! Wish I would have known about the conference in Germany, Im a big MMS fan. Thanks for all that you and Kerry do for all of us and wish you safe travels. No questions, just Thanks!!!
Bill Ryan
11-19-2008, 09:31 AM
Any updates on Gordon Novel and the RAM group? In the PC interview he said that they will begin massproducing energy devices at the end of this decade. How is that going?
We're in regular touch with Gordon Novel, and last spoke with him just a week ago. His project is continuing. It's complex, and there's a heavy funding requirement (which may now be solved), and he has quite a team working with him. This is all we can say.
with appreciation and gratitude for everything you and Kerry do, can I ask if I have missed on PC whistleblower testimony about chemtrails, and if it's not on PC already, is there anything you can release that satisfies your 90% credibility rating without compromising your sources.
it just seems to me that it must be a large operation to spread chemtrails and somebody involved must have doubts about what they are doing.
best wishes
We were specifically told by our source Hawkeye that this Rense article here on chemtrails was very accurate.
http://rense.com/general79/chem.htm
(See the report on http://projectcamelot.org for 24 April this year.)
All your work has been greatly appreciated Bill and Kerry and i for one wish to thank you for opening this site.
Whilst i know there has been many conflicts ,there have been many positive connections with some lovely people.
I would like to thank you again for making that possible.
:wink2::wink2::wink2:
Thank you!
Hey Bill,
I too want to thank you for all the work you guys are doing. I have to say
that from all the information that has been provided, both from Camelot and from Avalon, that the HPH stuff from Cliff and George seems the most tactile.
You come across as someone who really looks at the "nuts and bolts" of things.
Do you feel that their "science" is good? The reason I ask is that I have become very skeptical of prophets/channelers of late, not that they aren't receiving a message, just that those messages may be tainted, especially now.
Obviously, we all know the economy is gonna tank, change is on the horizon, etc.
I just want to know what is "resonating" with you?
Thanks
We do agree with Clif that all people are psychic to a degree, but few realize it. Therefore the web is a great place to look to discover patterns of future events that are no consciously known yet.
The problem lies in the interpretation (as Clif readily admits). A string of words, archetypes or themes still needs to be connected together to form a narrative that makes sense in the real world - and this may not be obvious till after the event.
Sometimes we feel Clif does retrospectively stretch an interpretation to "make it fit". But at other times he does seem to be very accurate. The forecast dates of the growing financial crisis - and how the 'bubble' burst on 7 October - were pretty much spot on.
But at the moment - so far! - we've not seen the other events which seemed to be accompanying this, and the 'release language' which was set to last for nearly five months (rather than a couple of weeks as with 9/11) does not (yet) seem to be related to an event of similar magnitude.
We may have to wait and see. We've been specifically told that some major events may have been prevented from within the military or intelligence agencies, although this is by definition almost impossible to prove. And we've also been told that the period of time up to Obama's inauguration on 20 January is "especially dangerous".
We too are skeptical of channelers (it was always clear to us that Blossom Goodchild's Oct 14 event was never going to happen, and nor was Dr Boylan's November asteroid impact).
Bill Deagle's alarming vision of a nuclear event was NOT set for 7 October (as many have misunderstood) - and was sufficiently vivid for this to have been a real event which either has not yet happened, or which happened/happens on a different, parallel timeline... but not to us on this one.
We don't know how best to interpret this, but it was certainly real enough for the man to be severely shaken to the point of being barely able to talk. In our view, anyone who has an experience this impactful deserves to be heard.
[to be continued]
Bill Ryan
11-19-2008, 09:46 AM
I see many speculations being posted all over the place about your intentions, funding and background, and future plans. I'd like to posts corrections where ever possible and want to make sure I have the facts straight.
How has your project been funded?
Some have proclaimed you have funding from George Green or the like.
Another stated as fact, surely you are not using your retirement funds.
Speculations like: If you charge a fee for the forum, you will make Mega Millions of dollars and plan to go find yourself an elite spot to buy into to save yourself from the coming storm.
How do you anwser to those who say:
I knew they were agents all along.
I think that's about all I've seen to date. Imaginations do run wild out there.
Thank you,
Karen
Our project has been funded first from Kerry's mother's inheritance, and then from my own (who died last year). Both amounts were modest and there is very little left.
We have also received some very generous individual donations via the Camelot PayPal buttons, for which we are extremely grateful.
But this has not been enough to stop us running out of working funds.
George Green has not funded us, and neither has Michael St.Clair (we saw some rumors, which were not true).
We have no "retirement funds" to use.
Neither of us own our own houses or any other real estate.
Kerry's 2000 Jeep Cherokee has done 140,000 miles (and is in quite good condition). My 1997 diesel Audi A6, which has done 238,000 miles, now needs $4,000 of repairs... so I am now borrowing a friend's car when needed.
Charging a modest fee for the forum, we'll probably break even - which is all we need to do. (We've been following some estimates on the forum with interest...some members' math is not very good!)
Regarding the charge that we're "agents", one of my favorite e-mails came from someone who said that he was convinced we were being paid by the government for our work - until he realized that if we were intel funded our camera work and video production would probably be a lot better :)
[To be continued]
Bill Ryan
11-19-2008, 09:58 AM
hi bill n kerry :welcomeani: when why and how did you decide to start project camelot and what is/are your favourite interview(s)?
We decided to start Project Camelot when on a trip to Tintagel in Cornwall, England, in April 2006. It's a magical place, and was Kerry's first visit. Tintagel has always been been rumored to be the original site of King Arthur's Camelot (the real one).
I recall it was my suggestion, and it took us about 90 seconds to agree and scope out the entire vision. It was obvious to us both that our skills and interests and ideals made it the natural thing for us both to do together.
Before that, Kerry and I had met when I was involved as webmaster for http://serpo.org and Kerry had interviewed me at the Laughlin UFO Conference in February 2006. She interviewed me for 15 minutes (and reported that having been initially very skeptical, she was delighted with both me and the interview) - and then we turned the camera off and talked for a further two and a half hours. After that we agreed to meet in England in April, and Camelot was born (see above).
It's very hard to say which interviews are our favorites. The vast majority of our witnesses have since become personal friends, and so all of them are dear to our hearts in different ways.
Two always spring to mind, though: the first Bob Dean interview (which generated more mail than any other video), and the first John Lear interview - which was a gas from start to finish and was only marred by terrible audio (which was a mystery to us and absolutely not our doing).
[to be continued]
Bill Ryan
11-19-2008, 10:08 AM
i think the detractors could well be schills... buts thats something thast may be dificult to figure out.. i was never in any doubt about your intentions :).. ive PM you about and australian story if your interested.. you may have lready been involved in this story and with the said people i have mentioned.. take care matt :)
Yes, some of our detractors may not be who they appear or claim to be. The intel agencies would not be doing their jobs if they did not place representatives on these forums to track things and try to influence opinion.
Other detractors are not well-informed (for instance, it amazes us how many people here have NOT seen any Camelot videos). Others may simply be not very bright.
Did you PM me with your Australian Story? If so, I may have missed it - please do so again.
How's Boriska doing?
From our Camelot report of 22 July:
We're pleased to say that we were finally able to get in touch with Boriska and his mother, Nadya, via phone two weeks ago. On a trip to Munich we re-connected with Elena, our Russian translator in the Boriska interview. Boriska sounded very good... he's growing up! His spirits were high and he was looking forward to starting school in Moscow in the Fall.
They have been moving apartments and have been difficult to reach for the past few months. Both Boriska and Nadya extended their warmest thanks to all those who contributed donations in the past few months. We plan to talk again soon once they are resettled and we can establish a routine connection with them.
[to be continued]
Bill Ryan
11-19-2008, 10:22 AM
Hi Bill and Kerry,
Thanks for opening up this thread for the many whom have questions. I agree, people should familiarize themselves with Project Camelot first. As with anything new, its a learning experience and hope this evolves and develops into something bigger and better for the betterment of all of us.
peace,
Nebula
It never occurred to us that people would find our way to this forum without knowing anything about us or Project Camelot. Moreover, it's always amazed us that skeptics (and those who are not well-informed) would want to post here.
We recommend that they simply go elsewhere - or (as I said on another thread) - invest a few weekends in watching the 100+ hours of Camelot videos before sharing their opinions with the other members.
Hi Bill and Kerry, now that I have the opportunity I can't seem to think of a question not yet asked. Just happy to have you back and communicating with us. I wholeheartedly support your mandates for Camelot and Avalon. May the good work continue... Blessings Diane
Thank you, Diane!
Bill, I really appreciate you posting this message. I am very new to all of this UFO and Insider information. I live in North Carolina, and until I saw "something" September 23rd of this year, I was a complete nonbeliever in all of this. A friend of mine had me to watch a video with Bob Dean and Neil Freer, and from there I did a search for Bob Dean which resulted in my finding Project Camelot.
It was the interviews that Kerry and yourself did that peeked my attention and began my journey into a world completely unknown to me. I see your work as extremely valuable, and I believe that you are both sincere in your efforts. My problem is that when I signed on to Avalon, I was looking for information on survival and truthful information on the ET situation, but I found much that I read was not what I was needing to help me know which direction to grow in.
I found myself coming here less and less. I still sign in occasionally in hopes of it being what I believe you and Kerry meant for it to be. Whatever happens with Avalon, I want you to know there are many newly awakened people out here that look to you and Kerry to help open our eyes. We need you and we thank you.
Thanks for this message. Yes, after one's first 'experience', life is just not the same again. I had an abduction experience in 1981, followed by some other very weird events, and that totally changed everything. Many other members will resonate with that and understand totally.
Regarding 'truthful ET information', you may find more of that on the Camelot site (which we believe is about 90% accurate) than here, which is diluted with members' personal opinions... some of which are highly intelligent and very well worth reading, and others rather less so.
The survival information IS here - and it is excellent - but is hard to find. We DO have a research team which is gathering information from the many threads to present in user-friendly consolidated form elsewhere on the Avalon site... this is a major task and is still in progress.
[to be continued]
Bill Ryan
11-19-2008, 10:33 AM
I'd like to know if you plan to meet Marshall Vian Summers? Thank you for your dedication and commitment. Steven
Many thanks, Steven. No plans. But I've read his first book, and was impressed - particularly with the very sensible notion that many of the ET visitors simply have commercial interests or are otherwise self-interested with a eye on Earth's resources.
Hi Bill,
Thanks! I think for the most part, people know that Kerry and yourself are very kosher, very good people. I think that all the people who really have some grasp on all of this, know that your intentions and actions are good.
No worries.
Thanks a lot for everything.
and i cant wait for the Jim Humble interview!! wow, i just learned about this stuff a few days ago, and was about to put a couple orders in. lol
Very niice.
*deep bows*
Blessings
Andy
Many thanks, Andy. Yes, I'm looking forward very much to meeting Jim Humble this Friday.
I've spent many years in Africa myself (I spent most of the first eight years of my life in Ghana and Nigeria, and in recent years have visited Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda and Botswana) and I may be in a position to understand some of the environment of Jim's work and research quite well. MMS really does seem to work miracles with cancer, AIDS, malaria, and a bunch of other diseases.
[to be continued]
Bill Ryan
11-19-2008, 10:57 AM
My question is... How do you balance the output of suplying uncensored information against negative ouput. i.e if we are all co-creating our future via our expressed emotions, should we be listening to people such as bill deagle stating negative posibilities for the future into the mass conciousness (such as the death of the soul) that would put some viewers into the 'fear vibration'?
P.s i dont have any issues against bill deagle in particular thats just the most recent example i came accross. Keep up the incredible work.
My thanks and blessings in anticipation of your answer, and taking the time out of your busy schedule. Love and light, peace.
I hope you don't mind if I repeat our statement from 13 November on the Camelot 'What's New' home page:
Our view is that refusing to look at reality will not help... and then, from that standpoint of being WILLING to look at reality, we causatively create the future we want.
In other words, to travel there, we have to depart from where we are, and we have to KNOW WHERE WE ARE to make that journey. Robert Fritz, the founder of DMA (and the author of The Path of Least Resistance) talks extensively about this.
If we refuse to speak the name of the beast, the beast will do whatever it wants. We are not afraid of the beast... and we are not afraid to speak its name. That is not the same as invoking it, supporting it, or being responsible for its existence.
Bill, I have a quick question regarding T1V83 (http://www.projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html)and Hillary Clinton. In a post here on Avalon back in September 2008, you had this to say (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3896&postcount=8):
If there is a weird twist of fate and circumstances somehow conspire (or people conspire!) to enable Hillary to be on the ticket after all - then head for the hills, because we will be in trouble. The probailty of this, though, looks very low indeed. It's not zero - because weird things CAN happen - but may be less than 1%.
It seems now that Hillary Clinton is going to be Obamas Secretary of State. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/17/hillary-clinton-secretary-of-state)
Do you see this bad news??
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another tidbit:
The nature of timelines is such that - especially at the moment (if that's not too subtle a twist of the English language) - they are rather like a braided rope, composed of several different tangled strands. One 'strand' can influence an adjacent one if it is too 'close'.
In practice, this means that there can be an apparent diversion from a timeline, and (rather like pulling off a Freeway to a rest area and then rejoining the Freeway again) one can later find oneself back in the 'main flow'.
Hopefully we're not back on the same "freeway" again.
Thanks again Bill and Kerry for all that you do!
Great questions - and smart ones, too.
Hillary Clinton was never going to retire from politics! So it's hardly surprising that she may have a key role in the new administration. We had heard from several sources that it was still possible that Hillary might yet - by a freak of circumstances worthy of an extreme Hollywood movie script - emerge as President. But as time rolls on (or as this timeline rolls on!) this does seem more and more clean impossible.
Regarding whether or not we're on the same freeway, this is a moot point. It SEEMS as if we're on a new one. We had 14 separate, strong data points that indicated that something was going to happen in October (now passed) - beyond the financial collapse that we had been told was going to happen earlier this year. Nothing did.
We may still be in a dangerous period (up to the 20 January inauguration and maybe beyond), but as more and more time passes with no attack on Iran or pandemic outbreak, the more we are relaxing (just a little).
But we have been specifically informed that "all bets are off" regarding which timeline we are now on. We seem to be in uncharted territory, unexplored by any time portal devices we're aware of. Our current stance is that we will know a huge amount more by next summer, 2009.
This may or may not be good news... we will have to see. One important source, which we have not yet published, insists that worldwide defensive preparations are still being made against a possible catastrophic event sometime after 2012. This information comes with the caveat (from the inside) that apparently no-one knows for sure what will happen... not even the ETs.
[to be continued]
Bill Ryan
11-19-2008, 11:20 AM
I'm relatively new on the forum but I've been following your interviews for a long time now. What struck me about you both was the committment to reveal the truth. I know how hard that can be and the opposition and attacks it can draw to you. From my spirit to yours thank you for continuing your mission.
My question is regarding a recurring vision of a solar eclipse I keep getting. Does this mean anything to either of you in regards to a possible outcome or a possible time line?
Thank you! But the recurring vision you describe of a solar eclipse means nothing to me personally as best I know. That does NOT mean it's insignificant... it may be concerning something that we're totally unaware of.
We DID have a warning of a possible CME (Coronal Mass Ejection) - referencing "the event of 1859" - from a well-known scientist with a Top Secret clearance, contracted to the Department of Homeland Security. But this is not the same as an eclipse, and the two do not really have any connection.
Dear Bill and Kerry,
In what ways do your own spiritual beliefs guide your approach to these interviews, and your own intellectual digestions of what they have to say?
Do you believe in an "all-powerful" NWO/Illuminati/secret society? Do you believe we are far beyond saving ourselves, and if there is still time on the clock, how does that conflict with those who openly subscribe to the belief that the PTB control everything, and that we are doomed?
Kerry, do you still have the same passion for disclosure you had when you began Camelot? Bill, do you still have the same passion you had when you joined Kerry in her journey?
Thanks, on a bunch of different levels,
The HistoryCircus.
Apart from the fact that Kerry and I both have a strong, clear spiritual perspective, I don't think that perspective influences the way we conduct interviews, or how we regard the information we hear.
Between us, we try to ask smart, well-informed questions, and after the interviews we try to be equally smart about what we've learned. Our capacity to do that depends significantly on our knowledge base - as well as our spiritual outlook.
We do think there is a NWO/Illuminati secret society which has heavily influenced world events, possibly for longer than many are prepared to believe. The evidence is overwhelming. But they may not be "all-powerful" any more.
Despite the Report from Iron Mountain, and the Global 2000 report - both of which call for drastic steps to reduce world population - the population has NOT so far been reduced as planned.
Using this as an obvious example, this seems to indicate that this group is not as powerful as it might have wished to be. Otherwise, they'd surely already have implemented many of their plans.
If no global pandemic emerges in the next 12-18 months, I'd start to be really pretty confident that this simply will not happen.
I'd say that Kerry and I still have the same passion as we had when we started. Maybe even more so: we're aware that we have a leadership role, and a huge responsibility when speaking at conferences and in radio interviews (and on forums like this) - none of which we'd anticipated when we started.
Our audience is now massive, and beyond our wildest dreams when we first started out and realized that someone had actually visited our new website :)
We're working as hard as we ever did, and if we can do our part as members of a large team (including thousands of people we do not know) to help steer the world safely into the dawn of a new age, then we'll feel that everything we've experienced has been very, very worth while.
[to be continued]
Harper
11-19-2008, 11:41 AM
Bill & Kerry youare fantastic and I admire the work you are continuing as I feel its only fair to say that we are all successful because we are standing on the shoulders of giants.
I have a time question. 10 years ago I was led to believe and still do the following information on which I would greatly appreciate your comments.
1. That time has effectlively ended and we are in what they described as an extended 'moment' this why why for some everything seems to have speeded up or in other circumstances slowed down.
2. Transitions have started to occur already for people of the earth and we will see big groups of people who will disappear from time to time, in various ways.
3. There are many aspects or versions of this world but principally two diverging paths, this one and another so called 'higher' one. You will stay or move depending on your ability to understand your individual nature, however neither is doomed. Some may feel this intensely and others may wake up and not know the difference.
4. As time has effectively ended we have all the ability to change or stretch or control time to change as we are currently in no-time.
What do you think of any of that?
Thank you again and take good care of yourselves
geraldine
Bill Ryan
11-19-2008, 11:51 AM
Hey Bill and Kerry I am really into your forum lately as you may have noticed! The people here are just interesting to interact with you attract interesting people i don't mean to be a pain.
This thread is a big task to try and make a dent in it while you have spare time is admirable and so is the willingness to clarify and listen to others all the time you guys are open minded and have a good sense of balance I respect that and think you guys are genuine but I have two major issues.
two questions to throw out here to you since you are offering.
1) How do you feel about someone that does not consider themself a guest on this forum or that it is private property and who does not agree to bind themself with certain written agreements over self leadership critical thinking and self responsibility. Do you think that it's unethical to dismiss the need for using rules or guidelines as a sort of crutch in which people use to point to why they made their decisions. Such as moderator conduct and such as users referring to conduct of others and themself.
2) Are you guys upset or do you reject anyone that decides your whistleblowers are likely traitors and or not worthy of attention or completely trustworthy that can possibly manipulate and who sees the entire means of getting this information immoral, unneeded and in most causes trivial information that is very much speculative. Do you reject the contributions of anyone that sees this secrecy as invalid to creating communities and a culture of freedom and wisdom that is needed in the changing times ahead.
I did my best to try and express what I meant. These are my main two issues that is all. Thanks guys.
If you do think we are genuine - and you may be telling the truth - you have to stop playing both sides of the fence. It's a matter of integrity.
Some people watching your posts here and elsewhere will know what I mean. I'm sure you do, too. Make up your mind who we are, and then stand behind that. Don't blow with the wind. It makes you look weak.
If I've understood your question properly (and do come back to me here if I have not answered your question, rather than criticising me elsewhere): we regard this forum as our own house. It's our party, but we've sort of thrown it open to everyone on the street.
We thought a few hundred people might come along, but instead we had over five thousand. We never had enough beer or chips for everyone, and not enough room for everyone to talk quietly and have a good time. So things got crowded and out of hand.
Not only that, but quite a lot of people have wandered in who do not seem to know us, and some of those people (as with any party) are just out to have fun, break things, or cause trouble.
If that happened in your house, with a real party, you'd probably want those people to leave. If you made it clear that they were unwelcome and yet they still stayed and continued to abuse you and the other guests, you'd probably escort them to the door and then lock them out.
This forum is not a public place. It's our house. So we're offended when people come in here and abuse us or the other guests. It's as simple as that. It's not really a matter of "rules". It's not a school, or an office building. It's a matter of what you'd want going on in your house.
This is why some people have been asked to leave, or have left of their own accord (and some mods, too). They have realized that the party is not one they enjoy, or where they were welcome.
Our advice to them is to go find another party and have a good time there.
The role of the moderators is to help us throw a good party. Everyone has been trying hard to help. No-one gets paid, they work long hours, and they do it not for themselves but for the other party-goers. Sometimes they've made mistakes (because they are human) - and some of them have left because they didn't enjoy the party themselves any more. All that is fine and to be expected.
There's no reason for conflict, no reason for personal criticism, no reason to behave badly. It's just a party, and we'd like it to be a good one.
So help make it a good party if you like. If you're bored or you don't like the music, then go to another one... there are plenty around.
I'm not sure that I understood your whistleblower question. If you're talking about Mary Lou's reporting of Henry Deacon to the FBI, this was an unacceptable breach of moderator trust. Think about it.
If a whistleblower came to us and thought that they might be under any circumstances handed over to the authorities, do you think anyone would ever talk to us again? Probably not. Thankfully, Mary Lou did not know any of Henry Deacon's personal details at all. We keep things compartmentalized too, just as the agencies do, and we know how to keep important things confidential. And that was why.
Not only that, but Mary Lou did not understand any of the Henry Deacon background, and did not realize that he did not know what he was working on until the morning of 9/11, that he was horrified when he was briefed, and that he contemplated sabotaging the project from the inside (but did not, and he suffers for that).
None of that Mary Lou understood or had read on the Camelot site, where it had been for over a year. We asked her to leave, and we published all the correspondence transparently on another thread so that there could be no misunderstanding about what had happened.
It's our duty to protect any whistleblower who comes forward. This is our senior responsibility. Anyone who does not stand with us on that should not be on our own team.
[to be continued]
Hi Bill and Kerry,
Thanks for your dedication and hearts,
A main focus of a lot of peoples anxiety, is the supposed journey through the dark rift.
My question is which astronomy agency data can we trust, for our true position in our galaxy?
I understand and have no reason to disbelieve top whistle blowers testimony, and am so grateful to have watched and enjoyed most of your interviews, but these short reports say, that by mapping hundreds/thousands of background stars, our true position is actually North of the rift and climbing away.
I know NASA are not to be trusted and as RH says 'the lies are different on every level, so my question is.. who do we trust for a true galactic position?
here are short links with an official interpretation of the data.
Ill understand if you have no time to read them and MUST! thank you again for your great services to us all.:original: thank you Bill and Kerry so much. :wub2:
According to this study, conducted by Humphreys and Larsen, Dept. of Astronomy, University of Michigan, 1995; the sun is approximately 20.5pc above the galactic plane. This is equivalent to 63.6 light years.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1995AJ....110.2183H
A more recent study by Reed of Dept. of Physics, Alma College using parallax measurements from OB stars, confirmed and refined, Humphreys, et al by concluding 19.5pc.
http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0507/0507655.pdf
Edited: you know what forget it, your busy and i get my answers elsewhere anyways, i still worry on the 19.5 energetics we are entering and probably dont need your help so wont waste your time.
franciejones
11-19-2008, 01:30 PM
I had an abduction experience in 1981, followed by some other very weird events, and that totally changed everything. Many other members will resonate with that and understand totally. "Quote from Bill Ryan post in this thread"
I copy/pasted that from one of your replies....I never knew this about you Bill. I would love to know more about it.
Also, I know you and Kerry give interviews and would love it if ,wherever possible, you guys could post them on Camelot. I don't know if you realize this but your interview from 2006 is very hard to find (the one where Kerry interviewed you about Serpo) The paranexus radio interview really filled in some gaps...I bet other interviews would do this as well.
While we all understand that Camelot is about the interviewees....The insights and opinions of both you and Kerry are very important (to me atleast) and are very helpful. If it is feasible, I would be delighted to hear any interviews that the two of you give.
Warmest wishes-Francie Jones
Hi Bill,
Regarding the "death of the soul" concept of Bill Deagle.
The beginning of the New Paradigm Handbook distributed by George Green can be seen to say precisely the same thing and more. IT describes the "death" of the Creator of all life through the intention of "dark forces". It describes the intention of these "dark forces" is death to the ultimate creator and that the dark force methods to bring it about are extremely advanced to the point of possible sucess.
This is a staggering book in those passages alone, which can be easily bypassed as the above concept is not repeated even that clearly again.
I have my own interpretation of the concept of causing the Creator to "unexist itself"
re: how such a thing could come to be. What kind of ultimate "game" are the dark forces "playing"?
I mean, it is a question is it not? IF there is
a single or simultaneous create point or prime mover unmoved create point of life itself;
if we are emanations of such a point , each life unit or "grain of sand" containing the secrets of our origins in our most basic makeup;
then, it follows, and the following logic is also stated in the Paradigm Handbook;
then.... it follows, that IF the emanations of life that all manifested existence IS...
can be brought into a state of AGREEMENT and WILLING SELF DESTRUCT....
THEN... could such a non- existence be brought into or brought.. OUT OF...existence causing the CORE of existence and all its subsidary coparts to become the Core of unexistence?????
Would THAT not be the ultimate accomplishment of the "DARK" forces?
Or, we might say, could GOD cause ITSELF to cease existence?
Well, the Handbook states that the dark forces have a large misunderstanding.
Complex as the escalated infinitely tiered challenge of a sucessful unmocking of GOD (be it trickery to have GOD self will annililation across a hundreth monkey syndrom formula) would be, it seems that ithis ultimate challenge might be a "game" being described by the likes of Bill Deagle and the writer of the New Paradigm.
And the ultimate statement of all activities that engage our senses in challenges between "us and them".
But indeed, it can get very very "serious"!
Many times, I have worked with humans who have willed themselves into states in which they no longer believe they exist; how difficult that can be to revive and how very skilled one must be to attempt recovery.
Tis ultimate mind control experiement!
How do the Duncon's become awake?
How do we?
And how would ..... god? GOD?
IF all of life became simultaneiously convinced it were "better" to unexist it/them/all/ ultimate existence; THEN
would THAT not be the game descirbed here?
The indeed very dangerous "game"?
So, I for one, believe that YOUR intention, Bill and Kerry, to SHOW the darker sides, ALONGside of the intention to SHOW and ASSURE that IF one does not TAKE PART in BUYING the BAG on the hopelessness of it all (rendering us hopeless by demonstrations of force and knowledge superior to our own)
THEN,
THEN.... not "buying the bag",
is ONE (as in yourself being ONE) more reason that the "dark" forces cannot and could never WIN.
Only with OUR participation by agreement CAN the "dark forces" WIN the game of God it/him/our SELVES
Uncreating consciousness and awareness of ourselves as the co-participant formulators/emanatiers of LIFE!
and DEATH
BUT NOT ultimate and total positation of UNEXISTENCE
You work, Kerry and Bill, is INVALUABLE and PRICELESS therefore, because THAT which LIGHT is NOT SHED upon will prevail.
We only need be continually reminded that ONLY our BELIEF in the POWER of the "dark side" can make US loose light.
As long as there is light to shine, then someone KNOWS of those parts that have been lost.
And that light that knows - can shine upon it.
and therefore, we awake!
That is my two cents, it is deep acknowledgment; unprecedented appreciation.
and can be treated however you choose to treat it.
in ultimate support to you, Bill and Kerry,
k
PS. In my opinion, the BEST modern day movie version of evil and Illuminati method is in the last Star Trek movie. Watch and LEARN from the SITH. Being an artist, the potential of art to create deep understanding is instant and internal. We have the good fortune in that movie to be on the outside looking in!
deb003
11-19-2008, 04:16 PM
Hi Bill & Kerry,
Has the Interview with Miriam Delicado been postponed? I thought this would be out on Camelot.
Maybe it's still being editted?
Must be a long interview!
Thanks!
stefaan
11-19-2008, 04:52 PM
Bill,
I would like to ask you a question and hope this is the right thread to do it.
Rather by coincidence I stumbled on this video: Project Camelot looks at George Green's magnetic motor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkgyY47duCM)
Is there a link on the Camelot site? I didn't find it at George Green's interview page on your site. At the end of the video a text says you can find more info at NoHoax or Project Camelot. More info is indeed what I am looking for. Didn't find it at NoHoax. I would like to reproduce this magnetic motor. It's seems pretty simple, but still, any additional info is welcom.
I've downloaded the Patrick Kelly manual (http://www.projectavalon.net/resources.html#free_energy). But with over 1750 pages... I've been looking for George Green's magnetic motor in it, but didn't find it. Maybe it's not there?
This GG motor is so interesting because it seems easy to reproduce and demonstrate. If you talk about free energy, most people think you're a little crazy, superstitious or something like that. They always come with the same arguments: if free energy existed, it would have been on the market, people would be making money out of it, etc... With something to demonstrate at hand, it would be easier to make your argument solid.
Everyone here...
I'm interested in all small and easy reproducable demo products as the one above. Everything that can make people wonder and open their minds.
For instance the CELT or rattleback, demonstrates in an easy way, Newton's inertia law isn't as absolute as they teached us at school... All things like that are very welcom.
(The CELT is demonstrated in this video: Boyd Bushman FULL Interview - UFOs & Antigravity (http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=8774776446626962537) along with other nice small demo's)
franciejones
11-19-2008, 08:09 PM
Bringing you back to the top Bill and Kerry
tonyob1
11-19-2008, 10:50 PM
look bill u dont need to explain yourself to me i know how funds must be tight. i am working 7 days aweek at the minute taxi driving in ireland and its tough
so god know how it is for you and kerry...as for your car i know how it feels i just traded in my old merc which i have spent 4k on fixing in the last 2 years nightmare!
can i ask 1 question. you said you were interviewing david icke soon a while ago and i have not heard anything since..have you interviewed him yet?
tony
ps keep up the good work my friend
Dean Plejaren
11-19-2008, 10:51 PM
Thank you for listening
Antztudio
11-20-2008, 12:27 AM
Hi bill and kerry,thank you for what you do!!Any idea when you will have a new update from george green?Cheers,Best,Antz
B&K, no need to answer this. I want to help support your PC/PA Forum. Would be helpful for me and others--who also wish to donate, where to send the cheque or m/o ?
franciejones
11-20-2008, 05:26 PM
Digital TV...I have been wondering if anyone has contacted you regarding this. The USA's conversion in February 2009 has always made me a bit nervous.
Any information about this from whistleblowers as of yet?
Thanks - Francie
Steven
11-20-2008, 05:51 PM
...Many thanks, Steven. No plans. But I've read his first book, and was impressed - particularly with the very sensible notion that many of the ET visitors simply have commercial interests or are otherwise self-interested with a eye on Earth's resources...
Thank you for your quick response Bill. I'm glad to hear you have read the first book. I invite you, without any pressure, to read the book 2. Book one was written in a manner to be addressed by a large public not necessary informed about ETs. With smooth curves. While Book 2 goes much deeper in the explanation of the Intervention. Details about who are the group of ETs doing it, their purpose, the way the Greater Community of Milky Way sees it and what we can do to keep our Freedom a reality. Steps to Knowledge are daily exercices to access the Spiritual Intelligence inside.
Another question, would it be possible to have a "Handbook for the New Paradigm" section in the Avalon Forum? So, it is more easier to gather all related material. I perfectly understand if you prefere not to create a special section, I'm a grateful guess here.
Thanks again for your dedication, All my blessings to you, Kerry and your beloved, Namaste, Steven.
franciejones
11-21-2008, 05:20 PM
Back to the top babe(s) :)
Michael H
11-21-2008, 06:45 PM
Hi Bill & Kerry,
First, I would like to thank both of you for all the hard work and courage your have poured into your projects.
Could you comment on when you plan on uploading your new interview with Marcia Schafer?
Thanks & all the best,
Michael
pineal-pilot-in merkabah
11-21-2008, 07:05 PM
hi bill i have resent the personal message as you requested :) hope you and kerry are doing ok.. i feel i can identify somewhat with your plight.. im currently occupiying a friends converted garden shed lol.. i know what its like to be tight for cash.. can i pay for a years subscription in one chunk ???
Ace of Hearts
11-21-2008, 09:36 PM
Hi Bill Kerry you guys have done an awesome job and you are great leaders for having taken this intitative of getting all this information out to the public.
thank you
my question is, have your lives ever been treatened? And if so how are you able to continue your work of interviewing whistleblowers?
Bless you both and may the creator shield you from harm.
Ace of Hearts
-------------------
I Seek Truth, Peace & Purpose
eurosceptic
11-24-2008, 06:40 PM
Juat to say - Avalon and Camelot are really interesting and not least of all USEFUL(!) resources and I do believe that they provide a valuable service also - that is why I would be happy to pay a modest subscription and also make a donation by paypal.
One other question. With all the chasing around, interviewing whitehats etc in hotel rooms etc, you both keep remarkably calm and considered and keeping a balanced view and remaining aware of the audience.
I love adventure etc but, how do you do it?! is it pure belief? Adrenalin?? Do you ever figet frustrated with any setbacks etc?
Also, how do you decide whether an interview is more important than another? Eg, Bill Deagles recent interview?
Best wishes and a lot of respect,
crazycharlie
11-24-2008, 08:54 PM
Bill & Kerry have you read or heard of Laura Knight-Jadczyk
at http://cassiopaea.org
She would be a great interview...
Just check out the front page introduction.
SuperManny
11-25-2008, 04:09 AM
I wish you guys would do an audio or video interview with Scott/Flying Pyramid, who posts on this forum, because he says he'll be leaving when it goes to a pay site.
Scott could give you a good quality interview, with a positive forward-looking message, instead of dire predictions, and dwelling on how bad things are/will be.
I have enjoyed several of the interviews you did, but I just don't care for the overly negative ones, and the overly sensationalized ones. (Hell, I can watch that kinda stuff on the news!) Seems we've had a lot of those lately; that's the primary reason I'll probably just fade away when it turns into a pay-to-post site.
Namaste
FrostyMcunicron
11-25-2008, 07:54 PM
i am very turned off when people begin asking to trade money $ for the "truth". I've loved this site & appreciated Camelot since i first logged, much love.
Michael H
11-25-2008, 11:13 PM
Thought I would bump this up...
Bill Ryan
11-26-2008, 10:29 AM
Hi Bill and Kerry,
Just wondering if you have the same sensation of time and how fast it appears to be going lately?
Everyone I have asked in my life is agreeing even kids, and when I was a kid time seemed painfully slow and well 'stuck'.
So I guess I'm asking if you know anyone in your circle, that has some kind of explaination for this? Bizzare question I know.
Thanks!
wZn
No explanation - but we've remarked on this between ourselves, and then realized that others were talking about it too.
It MIGHT have something to do with the region of energetic/energized space which the solar system seems to be entering (connected with the galactic plane). But just hazarding a guess...
First of all, I'd just like to say how impressed I am with the amount of work and dedication the two of you have put in, to try and shed light to the true reality that has been hidden behind the proverbial veil. Your efforts are both appreciated, and inspiring. My question is this. With your decision to focus more on future-related events, does this mean that your efforts with Project Camelot have been put on hold/ceased? I only ask, because as an avid viewer of the PC site/news/interviews, I would hate to see an end to what has become one of, if not the, most comprehensive whistle-blower/testimonial sites. Few, if any sites I've come across have had such in-depth interview sessions with such prominent names.
Thank you for everything, and keep up the excellent work!
Hi - our work with Project Camelot absolutely continues.
We're currently editing interviews with Stephen Bassett from the Paradigm Research Group (on the USG and Disclosure), Jim Humble (the inventor of MMS), and an interview with a wonderful girl in her 20s called Jessica who we met at the NEXUS conference in Australia, who's had some interesting experiences and who very much represents the very aware younger genereration and the potential future of this planet.
We'll soon be publishing a written interview with James from WingMakers (http://wingmakers.com), and have interviews bookmarked (but not yet scheduled) with David Icke, Jordan Maxwell and Jim Marrs. We also have a number of other projects and releases we're working on behind the scenes, some of which are pretty interesting but which we can't say more about at the moment.
Dear Bill and Kerry,
When and why did you decide to start Projects Camelot and Avalon? Do you have some information about your backgrounds that you can share without compromising yourselves?
Kerry and I met at the Laughlin UFO Congress in February 2006, and had the idea for Project Camelot while visiting Tintagel (in Cornwall, England), the legendary home of the real King Arthur's Camelot.
When we first met, I was the webmaster for http://serpo.org, a strange and complex release of information about an exchange program between a team of US military scientists and an ET race in the 1970s. The story was heavily contaminated, but is likely to have been based on fact. That was my first public involvement in the UFO/ET arena.
Our abbreviated bios have been on http://projectcamelot.org/about_us.html for quite a while. What else would you like to know? We have no secrets about our backgrounds, and what to say depends what you're interested in.
Essentially, I have a professional background in management and team development (after studying math, physics and psychology at university in England). Kerry has a background in the film industry in LA, having trained professionally as an actress in New York. We've both been armchair UFO researchers for many years before stepping out publicly, and have also both had quite a number of paranormal experiences of various kinds - as of course have many people who will be reading this now.
[To be continued]
iainl140285
11-26-2008, 11:36 AM
:original:Hi Bill/Kerry,
Wanted to say that you are both doing a fantastic job. Keep it up. Despite the concerns of a few on here about paying I see no problem with this if the right facility is set up. I'll pay whatever the charge and then some to support your work :thumb_yello:
Just wanted to ask, did you ever check out the Stan Romanek story? http://www.rense.com/general46/stan1.html
Have any thoughts on this?
Thanks
Best Regards
Iain
Bill Ryan
11-26-2008, 12:59 PM
When will you have interviews with either Lisette Larkins or Nancy Red Star? Nancy in particular would be very interesting, as she has written (and is continuing to write) books detailing Skyperson/Star Nations lore among Native American groups and has spoken with many tribal Elders in the course of compiling her material.
Peace,
Martian Tigress
We do know Lisette Larkins - a delightful and fascinating person. We've not yet met Nancy Red Star.
Hi Bill and Kerry,
When are you visiting Canada? Heard Bill is going to reside in Australia (which I wonder about as the internet is going to be censored shortly) and Kerry are you going to stay in Sedona?
Wish there were more Canadians on this Forum...not that I don't really appreciate communicating with you all from diverse countries around the globe.
Enjoy being part of this Forum and feel Bill and Kerry you are doing a great job!
No plans to visit Canada, though I love the country. My parents were both Canadian and I've spent quite a bit of time out west, climbing and hiking in the Rockies. I also spent a year teaching in the Laurentians in Ste-Agathe-des-Monts when I was in my 20s, where I first learned to ski.
I've also fallen in love with Australia: my first visit there was just last month, which no-one, including myself, can believe. I'm considering all my options. At the moment I'm in Switzerland, a beautiful, sane and impeccably organized country which I know well and where I have a large number of friends. I'll be here certainly for a number of months and maybe much longer.
Hi Bill & Kerry,
When one school building in haiti collapsed, it was normal but when another school building there too collapsed (this news was very short and casualties were minimum)....is there some similarity bet bridge in minneapolis and this...may be i am thinking in exreams...please forgive me if am wrong in my thinking....
Good questions... but absolutely no idea, I'm afraid.
[To be continued...]
David
11-26-2008, 01:17 PM
Dear Kerry & Bill,
You have done two interviews with Jim Sparks. One was about "The Keepers" and the other with Bill Holden. Jim's experiences mesh in with mine. I do not have the total recall like he does but can personally verify a lot of what happened to him from my own experiences. I have read his book "The Keepers" but was wondering if there is anything new and will there be another interview in the future?
Best Regards,
David
gracephi
11-26-2008, 02:39 PM
Hi Bill,
Do you any plans to interview Mary Croft?
Mary wrote the book:
"HOW I CLOBBERED
EVERY BUREAUCRATIC
CASH-CONFISCATORY AGENCY
KNOWN TO MAN
... a Spiritual Economics Book
on $$$ and
Remembering Who You Are"
Mary Lives in Canada and is totally free unlike all of us americans who are enslaved by the corporation called the US Government via our birth certifcates.
I had no idea I was a slave till I was educated by Mary. We dont know what we dont know.
many thanks, Grace
Love/Light 13
11-26-2008, 08:30 PM
Bill-
Thanks for adding such value to the site by answering member questions directly.
With regards to parallel timelines, do you believe these timelines exist only in the etheric planes of our own conciousness, or are they actual 3D timelines that we could travel back and forth from? I have always thought that timelines viewed on "looking glass" type devices were purely etheric in nature, and were only presenting other possible or probable futures, not the "actual" future.
Not sure if that is clear, but I guess it all ties in to the idea that the only thing that actually exists is the "here and now". All other realities are just possible or probable outcomes.
If you believe these timelines to be real 3D existences/environments, are there seperate entities, or souls occupying other parallel me's? Is my physical body being controlled by another soul in an alternative reality right now?
Peace and love,
L/L 13
**********************
may WISDOM guide COMPASSION
"out of MANY, we are ONE"
norman
11-26-2008, 08:40 PM
Bill-
Thanks for adding such value to the site by answering member questions directly.
With regards to parallel timelines, do you believe these timelines exist only in the etheric planes of our own conciousness, or are they actual 3D timelines that we could travel back and forth from? I have always thought that timelines viewed on "looking glass" type devices were purely etheric in nature, and we only presenting other possible or probable futures, not the "actual" future.
Not sure if that is clear, but I guess it all ties in to the idea that the only thing that actually exists is the "here and now". All other realities are just possible or probable outcomes.
If you believe these timelines to be real, 3D existences, is there a seperate entity, or soul occupying a parallel me? Is my physical body being controlled by another soul in an alternative reality right now?
Peace and love,
L/L 13
**********************
may WISDOM guide COMPASSION
"out of MANY, we are ONE"
Great question and really goes to the heart of Camelot! This is one question I'd really like to both Bill and Kerry to answer.
Heretic
11-27-2008, 12:23 AM
been following your work for years and love you guys, and your mission
what are your thoughts on the possibility that much of the disclosure we have all being exposed to (since the 80s) is actually engineered by the powers that be for unknown reasons that could be benign in nature (bringing the masses up to date before TSHTF) or perhaps even more manipulation towards some desired nefarious goal?
thanks
Earle
12-10-2008, 07:52 AM
Hello Bill and Kerry,
I would like to start as many others have by saying thank you. Your inspiring work has set my life in a new direction, given me a new-found purpose, and changed me (for the better) in many ways. So for this, and so much more, I thank you; my gratitude is more than words can express.
My question to you is whether or not you have viewed either of Alex Collier's videos on the Andromedans. Alex claims to be a multiple abductee at the hands of these benevolent beings, and his testimony has brought me nothing but the strongest thoughts of hope, love and light.
There has been a thread started about him here on the Camelot part of the forums; there is a link to his original 1994 interview where he describes multiple alien races, and some of his encounters with the Andromedans.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4507
This second link is his most recent video to date, done in May of this year. I believe it's some sort of UFO conference. Here he goes into more detail about his encounters with the Andromedans, and sheds light on their thoughts on the future of the human race and our current situation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY62dy2w5Ak&feature=PlayList&p=1638993E5CA2862B&playnext=1&index=12
I would ask, as a personal favour, that you take the time to watch these videos if you have not already, ESPECIALLY the second one, and share your opinion on what he preaches. Does anything he says ring true to anything you have seen/heard in your own experiences?
Once again, thank you for all you have done, I look forward to your reply :)
Earle
AussieG
12-10-2008, 11:50 AM
I would ask, as a personal favour, that you take the time to watch these videos if you have not already, ESPECIALLY the second one, and share your opinion on what he preaches. Does anything he says ring true to anything you have seen/heard in your own experiences?
May I interrupter for a moment!
After watching Alex I felt that I needed to share the following.
Although he talks of Andromedans and his interaction with them I have to take that on face value. It is his perception that we need to live by our conscious that resonates with me. About 4.5 years ago I went through a personal crisis. As a result I have had a change of attitude so profound that I was put back in touch with my conscious. From that time on I have been guided to many places on what seemed a great learning curve ( hence Camelot and Avalon ) I was made aware that as human beings we have been given the most valuable gift of the universe FREE WILL (the ability to create) It is this free will that has been under attach and subversive control by the powers that lord finance and materialism.
I have been listening to "Handbook for the new Paradigm" where a shift in conscious to create another path is championed. Alex delivered the path
via the law of continuance. It is a change from "Whats in it for me" to "How can I help" If we all gave 5 hours a week to charity or helping less fortunate the world would be a very different place. No matter how oppressive the forces that are used to control our free will, we still have the choice to help if we so desire, we simply have to choose.
With all the conditioning that we have been subject to, especially the last 100 years or so it can be very difficult to make those choices.
Alex put it perfectly "develop an attitude of Gratitude". The discipline for me today is to Do what my conscious suggest, despite what my subversive cultured Ego wants If it don't feel right then it probably isn't right.
Sorry to waffle :trumpet: on a bit but Alex really hit to spot.:lightsabre:
williamfmartin@gmail.com
12-10-2008, 02:49 PM
I just watched a very interesting video of the late Dr. Michael Wolf...
It can be viewed here.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj-XqCQr3DQ
I have searched the Project Camelot site and found no mention of this individual.
Are you aware of his disclosure?, and What is your take on his disclosure?
Thanks for the wonderful work that you do for all truthseekers.
Unmconditional Love
William F Martin
Barron
12-12-2008, 01:45 AM
Hi Bill and/or Kerry
Have you heard of the work/lectures by Virgil Armstrong? And would you consider interviewing him? He was apprently physically present at one of the crashed flying saucers around the time of the Roswell crash. He also knows firsthand of underground tunnels bases and of some of the ETs interacting with military etc. I believe he resides ine or near Sedona these days.
Cheers
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