hollow earth??

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

im coming round to this idea more and more.. looking at toroidal vortex mathmatics and various writings (captain bird) ect. also look at the poles of jupiter and saturn ect.. anybody else have any ideas:smoke:

[Average Joe]

Yeah, I think the earth is full of magma.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

boring ;) we will no doubt find out soon.. id be interested to see if anyone is looing into this

[Average Joe]

Not if they have any sense the wouldn't be.

We all know the earth is flat. It can't be hollow.

Google "flat earth society" Hell yeah!

Lets face it, Flat Earth Theory is only one dippy step removed from half of the wacky theories on here, including Hollow Earth Theory.

[spiritual_wanderer]

Anything is possible!

[777 The Great Work]

All matter has a source that exsist within and radiates outward. Yes there is a hollow earth , some of the ancient text mention that durring these times of testing we will be welcome by the inhabitants of the inner core.:cup:

[Dean Plejaren]

Hollow earth makes more sense to me. No-one has seen an iron core I'm skeptical it's proven.

Yet I know peoples pre-conceived notions have the priority when it comes to knowing......Because you sure ain't going to convince them otherwise.

[Allan]

"The Hollow Earth" was written by Dr Raymond Bernard and published in 1969. I remember a teacher in Grade 10 (30 years ago) casually mentioned this book in passing (throwing us a bone) and we all thought he was off his rocker thinking that the earth was hollow. I happened to read it many years later and combined with other resources (the Tuesday Lobsang Rampa collection, Admiral Byrd's diary, the book called the The Smoky God, etc) I have no doubt that there is a middle earth, hollow earth, Agharti, Shamballa, Shangri-La, Thule, Arktos, Valhalla, and Hades - whatever it's been called throughout the ages.

(I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just saying that I have no doubt about it and totally believe it.)

Some things are hard to believe but it doesn't mean it can't be... just like people might find it hard to believe that we are spinning on our axis at 1,000 miles per hour as we revolve around the sun at 66,000 miles per hour as our solar system travels around the Milky Way at 400,000 miles per hour as the Milky Way drifts through the universe. Geez, no wonder I feel dizzy when I wake up each day... haha

[ghglenn]

Lava flows from where? Plate-techtonics, continental shift, the earth is not a ball. WTF?

[Allan]

The earth's crust is 800 miles thick... lots of room for lava and tunnels and DUMBS (deep underground military bases). The earth's diameter is 8,000 miles.

[ghglenn]

Why would the earth be hollow? There is immense pressure as you move toward the center, it would implode.
Any links to the science behind a hollow earth?


Never mind, I looked up the theory myself...

[Allan]

Hi GH

I found this link to Dr Bernard's book. It is the first few chapters online.

http://books.google.ca/books?hl=en&id=1ENo7Tmbk2wC&dq=raymond+hollow+earth&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=tm9kipPOSz&sig=MMn9UmOtcA2EL32M4-LD8eyfC40&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result#PPP1,M1

If it piques your interest... cool, if not, at least you had a look at it.

I'm calling it a night... over and out.

[bilderburger w/cheese]

check out what tsarion has to say... interesting stuff from a variety of sources:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtgYlD5KlY8

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

The earth's crust is 800 miles thick... lots of room for lava and tunnels and DUMBS (deep underground military bases). The earth's diameter is 8,000 miles.

That's interesting, because i was searching for a 'physical model' or some kind of a cutaway drawing, to grasp this theory.

I don't buy he idea of a 'plain and simple empty hollow earth ' with an inner sun.

But what you are telling here, makes sense to me......And that is thick enough to dig for awhile ! :thumb_yello:
We get so many people talking about this theory but they can't provide you with at least a sketch, or something, though i read that all entrances are strickly forbidden, so no pictures....:sad:

salute.

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

check out what tsarion has to say... interesting stuff from a variety of sources:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtgYlD5KlY8


Hey b/wc,
I will have to check it soon,thx for the link !

salute.

[Reunite]

That's interesting, because i was searching for a 'physical model' or some kind of a cutaway drawing, to grasp this theory.

I don't buy he idea of a 'plain and simple empty hollow earth ' with an inner sun.

But what you are telling here, makes sense to me......And that is thick enough to dig for awhile ! :thumb_yello:
We get so many people talking about this theory but they can't provide you with at least a sketch, or something, though i read that all entrances are strickly forbidden, so no pictures....:sad:

salute.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp227/henryflowers33/hollow_earth2.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp227/henryflowers33/hollow_earth_3.jpg

Check out this link of Apollo 8 and Apollo 16 photos of earth
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/hollowearth.html

[giaoue]

OK, if you want to know if anyone is looking into the Hollow Earth Theory then just look @ this website or youtube this 20 year + physicist's name Dr. Brooks Agnew @ www.x2-radio.com, he is planning a North Pole Inner Earth Expedition in Aug. 2009 on a nuclear-powered ice breaker owned by the Russians & it is going to have every one of the team on this expedition to have certain specific qualifications as well as being pretty aware & conscious. The ship is going to have cameras to show live feed on what they see we see if your on Agnew's website. I can't wait. Another seismologist named Jan Lamprecht has a C2C youtube vid that is pretty interesting so please all who are very interested look it up & discern for yourself. I believe in everything because that is what we all are --- EVERY THING! :thumb_yello:Love SELF (Something Everything Loves Forever) :wub2::tongue2:

[taomation]

Not if they have any sense the wouldn't be.

We all know the earth is flat. It can't be hollow.

Google "flat earth society" Hell yeah!

Lets face it, Flat Earth Theory is only one dippy step removed from half of the wacky theories on here, including Hollow Earth Theory.

Why do you have to be so negative and close minded? You are right, they are theories, but until they are proved or disproved you might be wiser to stop condemning them. "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance" Albert Einstein.

[Nebula]

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp227/henryflowers33/hollow_earth2.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp227/henryflowers33/hollow_earth_3.jpg


Earth is indeed hollow! as you can see on the above map. There is all sorts of Et activity going on inside the earth. Some Et's have resided there for millions of years. There are some who go there on vacation etc. I Once read some where that the aurora borealis is not solely caused by solar wind storms reacting with the earth's magnetic field as we have been told, but rather also Et activity or traffic! I find that more believable, but one day we will find out the truth.

[Dean Plejaren]

Some Et's have resided there for millions of years. There are some who go there on vacation etc.

Where is my vacation I'm stuck on the surface dealing with this.

[Average Joe]

Why do you have to be so negative and close minded? You are right, they are theories, but until they are proved or disproved you might be wiser to stop condemning them. "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance" Albert Einstein.

I'm not being negative. I'm just saying the earth is not hollow. Why is that a negative statement?

Well?

Call me closed minded, thats fair enough. Negative, no.

Why not read up on the flat earth theory if you are so open minded? There are people that actually believe this and go to great lengths to offer "evidence" and theory towards a flat earth. If you are gullible enough, it could appear quite compelling.

Are flat earth theorists open minded? Or closed minded to anything but their truth? Or just gullible? Or insane?

You can apply that to hollow earth theory. It'd have to be a pretty damn small sun in the centre of the earth, and one that wouldn't burn for very long.

[Average Joe]

Here is a theory.

We on planet earth are part of a vast galaxy of 500 million stars, which is in turn part of an estimated 500 million galaxies, covering an unimaginable distance why is mostly space.

This space which we are contained in, the vast unimaginable space, is actually the space within one singular atom, somewhere between the proton, neutron and electron. As we know, a tiny atom is 99% space. Well the universe is within that space of a singular atom.

And that atom is one of billions of atoms that make up a patch of mould on a block of cheese, in somebodies fridge, on a planet, in a galaxy, within a universe, a vast unimaginable universe...which is contained within the space in a single atom, which is one of billions of atoms, which makes up a cockroaches bumhole, which lives in the corner of a flat, in a country, on a planet, in a galaxy in a universe......

I'd like to see somebody disprove that.

Meanwhile, I'm off to set up my "Universe within an atom, and why THEY hide it from you!" website.

I'll be gone for a couple more minutes, whilst I brush up on my unprovable or undisprovable theory.

[Dean Plejaren]

AJ you don't get it. What you said is a reality......The human body is a holographic representation of the universe. The Hubble telescope looks out and sees exactly what the microscope sees. As Above so Below. Look up the book on the holographic universe. You are correct. Your philosophy is sound.

I knew that a long time ago. But I wouldn't concentrate on cockroaches rear ends and mouldly cheese. I would concentrate on the more exciting things.

However you cannot justify that the hollow earth is not a scientific reality as there is much more evidence for it than the iron core theory. People have written about experiences of the hollow earth such as a pilot officer that flew into it once. There is even photos. What do you have with the iron core? Nothing....speculation. Bunk like science that contradicts itself. Meanwhile the hollow earth explains the magnetic poles among other things about how planets really evolve and form.

[Average Joe]

AJ you don't get it. What you said is a reality......The human body is a holographic representation of the universe. The Hubble telescope looks out and sees exactly what the microscope sees. As Above so Below. Look up the book on the holographic universe. You are correct. Your philosophy is sound.

I just made it up!

However you cannot justify that the hollow earth is not a scientific reality as there is much more evidence for it than the iron core theory. People have written about experiences of the hollow earth such as a pilot officer that flew into it once.

Thats not evidence! Thats people telling stories! I could tell you I met Santa, is that evidence of Santa?

There is even photos.

Where?

What do you have with the iron core? Nothing....speculation. Bunk like science that contradicts itself.

Disproving an iron core, if possible, does not mean a hollow earth.

Meanwhile the hollow earth explains the magnetic poles among other things about how planets really evolve and form.

I'd have thought that an iron core would be a factor in magnetic poles, but what do I know, I'm not a scientist. Like you, I presume.

[rimax]

As above, so below!

[Allan]

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance" Albert Einstein.

I agree. Once again, the book is called "The Hollow Earth" by Dr Raymond Bernard. Read it (AJ) and then come back and have an informed chat with us. It'll blow your mind. This guy's done a life time of research on the subject... give him a chance.

[QueenOfLeon]

I too, am convinced the earth is hollow. It makes complete sense given that the point Allan made about matter.
I like this pic...

http://pwg.gsfc.nasa.gov/istp/outreach/images/Earth/geocorona.jpg

[zorgon]

As above, so below!

Hmmm very profound statement :tongue2:

"As Above"

We have oceans...

"So Below"

According to National Geographic we have oceans at 600 miles below the surface :mfr_omg:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/images/070227-ocean-asia_big.jpg


Huge Underground "Ocean" Found Beneath Asia
Richard A. Lovett
for National Geographic News
February 27, 2007
A giant blob of water the size of the Arctic Ocean has been discovered hundreds of miles beneath eastern Asia, scientists report

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070227-ocean-asia.html

Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth | LiveScience
Feb 28, 2007 ... reservoir beneath Asia that is at least the volume of the Arctic Ocean....
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070228_beijing_anomoly.html


Even made Fox News...
Scientists Discover Subterranean 'Ocean' Under Eastern Asia
Wednesday, February 28, 2007
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255486,00.html

So...

As Oceans Above, So Oceans Below :lmao:

:smoke:

[hobbit]

The hollow earth theory makes perfect sense from a harmonic situation, where all the planets, moons and stars are hollow and bell like, thus resonating at specific frequencies.
All We have been TOLD, and TOLD, and told to repeat, repeat , repeat is ASSUMPTION ( ass-u-me)
The whole spinning and flying through space nonesense is ASSUMPTION.
I consider the whole system is a matrix of fixed points where the moving element is space, the aether.
You have been TOLD and TOLD there is no aether, there is nothing in space, it's all a lie.
But sheep like sheeple do as they are TOLD.
The French call us English Mouton Anglais, because We do as We are told.
If instead of accepting the nonesense You are told, you THINK, and work out that nobody can tell you what gravity is.
Nobody can tell you what light is.
nobody van tell you what time is.
But they will put a baffoon like Einstein up as a G-D and declare as FACT that E=MC2, what a load of ballocks.

Try and think of everything in space in a sea of aether, a tidal sea of aether, and it circulates around all the created mass, it will create hollow mass, there is no force called gravity, it is an electrical consequence of attraction of a dual spin aether, and our senses see through this giving the illusion of movement.
the moon is the biggest clue, you cannot see the far side, also it is 400 times smaller than the sun, the sun is 400 timesthe distance away, thats because it is a geometric matrix.
All of this is known above 33 rd level masonic, but is kept secret from the sheeple.
Why do you think everything is set out geometrically in America, and london?
Our distant ancestors knew all this with the megaliths.
There will be anothr series of planets inside each planet and stars.
The stars are not radiating light as you have been TOLD, I know it is compelling to think that light comes from the sun, but it is local, light is a consequence of aether flows meeting, as each formed bell like mass radiates a frequency that interacts with the other radiating fields produced by other bell like formed mass.
our main source of this harmonic interaction is with the sun, but the light is produced local around the earth, there is no light or heat in space as there is no interferance of resonant fields.
gravity is not centred to the centre of the planet , it would implode, it's nonesense.
Wake up.
Hobbit

[QueenOfLeon]

i like that pic too...but, out of interest: is it relevant to this topic?

it would appear to be the reaction between the magnetosphere and charged solar particles producing auroras.

i just want to make sure that you didnt include that as a form of evidence for hollow earth. great pic tho...

**
on a side note: geophysicists interprete seismic data as evidence for the inside of the earth (not the center/core) but the lower mantle as being liquid since 1 of the 2 types of seismic waves cannot travel thru it.

if the center of the earth was hollow (or filled with "air") then the compression waves would travel thru it. you can not compress a liquid, but you can compress a gas (shock waves/compressed gas tanks, etc).

the theory of the materials that comprise the lower mantle being liquid is supported by our knowledge of what happens to certain materials when under the temperatures & pressures theorized to exist within the earth at those depths. seismic data (speed of waves traveling thru mediums) also support this, as do analog modeling.

the hollow earth theory, although compelling, has to defy fundamental laws of physics, decades of research, and millions of human hours of research that supports the current paradigm of planetary structure. not to say that it cant do that, but it must to break the paradigm that is upheld every time an earthquake goes off (thousands of times a day). for, an image of the earth is generated every time a boom happens, and the same picture is revealed. if the center of the earth was "hollow", then the thousands of scientists that study the earth would have evidence to support this.

now...the stories of underground bases/large cavernous areas w/in the crust...those would not need to have the earth being "hollow", but it would (probably) have to have some sort of advanced technology to keep it from collapsing due to the fact that the crust is constantly flowing and shifting as we speak. everywhere, every second. every rock.


Sorry if it is incorrect, however I found this pic long ago whilst researching Hollow earth, as all I hoped for was some kind of visual. So I simply googled hollow earth and found that.

I have read that the auroura's are phenomena from the inner sun, which is obviously not the official story.

compelling none the less....

[Truth voice 2012]

It'd have to be a pretty damn small sun in the centre of the earth, and one that wouldn't burn for very long.



Thats assuming that stars are similar to nuclear reactors. The inner earth theory makes more sense if we look at the sun as an eletro magnetic plasma ball (Which it is) that receives its energy from the centre of the galaxy. The star then acts like a network hub dispersing that energy to the planets central stars. This is just my theory on why hollow earh could be real. Ive seen other seismic evidence too that points towards a hollow earth. Theres definatly something down there and it aint iron. Its more of a consistancy of gas than anything. I aint saying its air and there are people and cities down there but what Ive seen proof of is that the sun is electro magnetic, not a nuclear reaction like were led to believe and the centre of our planet has less density than a liquid.

[hobbit]

Truth voice 2012,
Hello,
The story TOLD of the sun and stars been nuclear reactors is very convincing, seeing as nobody can go and check, or can they?

The sun , imho, is not radiating light, but as You point out it does radiate out the interferance pattern as it acts as a resistor to the free flow of space, which on a larger scale will be exactly the same from an even far larger planet at the centre of the galaxy, which will be just part of an even larger scale, etc etc etc.
I stop at that sort of point or it gives you headache.
The aether is flowing, I can follow it about , this is often referred to as dragon lines in dowsing circles, there are many differnt such flows, they are basically differnt harmonic frequency flows that merge and implode into creation.
Space is not nothing as TOLD, it is no-thing, which is vastly different.
it becomes 3Dcreation when it resonates in geometric brilliance of fixed points that are all to Fibonacci fractal sequences.

This can all be followed and measured across the surface area, it is in a form of trinity, there is a neutral dead straight lined geometry that allows free passage to the 720 degree spin aether flows that are mirror like faced, light is entrapped inside this along with other stuff that all creation is coalesced from.
Our actual selves are not 3D which our biological bodies are.
the planet will be to scale exactly as what can be measured at the surface, and will follow this geometry inwards and outwards, hence as above , so below, it's all about mirror planes.
We need to do as Alice did, and step through the looking glass.
Charles lutwidge Dodgson, who wrote Alice, was a mathmatician without equal.
It is all about geometry, and I can measure it all.
hobbit

[Steven]

I believe the Earth is hollow. I believe a planet not being hollow is the exception. Especially with this point of view, Nassim Haramein with the Grand Unified Field Theory: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Nassim+Haramein++sacred+geometry+&emb=0&aq=f#emb=0&q=(part%202)%20nassim%20haramein&src=2

His web site: http://www.theresonanceproject.org/

Namaste, Steven

[PTTurboe]

I believe the Earth is hollow. I believe a planet not being hollow is the exception. Especially with this point of view, Nassim Haramein with the Grand Unified Field Theory: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Nassim+Haramein++sacred+geometry+&emb=0&aq=f#emb=0&q=(part%202)%20nassim%20haramein&src=2

His web site: http://www.theresonanceproject.org/

Namaste, Steven

Correct. Was going to post that....

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

wow i like the info people have put into this thread. i started researching it last night after looking at hyperborea and the capital of the mythical land?(ultima thule) hence the thule society. one of the tribes of israel DAN was the precursor to vikings who were said to be tall blond blue eyed god like men.. i was trying to tie those together. im leaning more towards hollow earth as i keep going in my research. :)

[KathyT]

If one checks Google Earth, you will find there is a complete cover-up of the North pole at all times. They do not show any part of the entire Artic ICE CAP, yet it is there. What are they hiding?
I also noticed that there is a strange large circle in Antarctica on Google Earth.

The distance of that whole "circle" image on Antartica is about a thousand miles across. When I dropped that image into Photoshop, and used an adjustment tool called “Curves” to darken and work with contrasting tones, I was stunned with what I got! Notice the very bright light at the very center of the South pole! It is as if there is something very bright at that location shining out that the satellite cameras picked up!
http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/South-Pole-3.jpg

A month ago I took a digital picture of our sun through a welding helmet lens and loaded it into Photoshop. The trees and landscape were fine, but the sun was a ‘blob’. When I tried to darken the sun to get an outline, it wouldn’t, there simply were not any adjoining pixels which Photoshop could darken.

When I realized the significance of this South Pole image, I started to remember a couple of other things I’d read about weeks and months ago. There is this interesting website about Jupiter with NASA images that animate at http://hollowjupiter.blogspot.com/ and it alleges that sunlight shines out from the poles at Jupiter, that website looks like this:
http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Jupiter-sm.jpg

I have tried diligently to find other accurate pictures of our poles. I found this website at the University of Illinois, which shows you some NASA images of the North Pole Ice cap: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere Note the convenient ‘black dot’ that they place directly over the north pole… what are they hiding under the black dots?
http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Univ-Illinois-10-03-08-sm.jpg

There is an amazing 10 part series titled “Inside the Hollow Earth” on You Tube by author Rodney Cluff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIRdDA_EDfM

The question remains, what is being hidden under the images NASA gives us about the North and South Poles, right under our noses on Google Earth?

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

yes i saw the cover up pics on google earth.. something is going on for sure. im thinking its a reality more and more.. there is a russian nuke ice cutter going there sometime early 09 to see whats going on up there.. rodney cluff the mormon is gong with a few sceientists and other skilled people

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Truth voice 2012,
Hello,
The story TOLD of the sun and stars been nuclear reactors is very convincing, seeing as nobody can go and check, or can they?

The sun , imho, is not radiating light, but as You point out it does radiate out the interferance pattern as it acts as a resistor to the free flow of space, which on a larger scale will be exactly the same from an even far larger planet at the centre of the galaxy, which will be just part of an even larger scale, etc etc etc.
I stop at that sort of point or it gives you headache.
The aether is flowing, I can follow it about , this is often referred to as dragon lines in dowsing circles, there are many differnt such flows, they are basically differnt harmonic frequency flows that merge and implode into creation.
Space is not nothing as TOLD, it is no-thing, which is vastly different.
it becomes 3Dcreation when it resonates in geometric brilliance of fixed points that are all to Fibonacci fractal sequences.

This can all be followed and measured across the surface area, it is in a form of trinity, there is a neutral dead straight lined geometry that allows free passage to the 720 degree spin aether flows that are mirror like faced, light is entrapped inside this along with other stuff that all creation is coalesced from.
Our actual selves are not 3D which our biological bodies are.
the planet will be to scale exactly as what can be measured at the surface, and will follow this geometry inwards and outwards, hence as above , so below, it's all about mirror planes.
We need to do as Alice did, and step through the looking glass.
Charles lutwidge Dodgson, who wrote Alice, was a mathmatician without equal.
It is all about geometry, and I can measure it all.
hobbit

THIS IS VERY INTERESTING.. :smoke:

[piers2210]

Great thread. I believe that there is life going on inside planet earth, and has been for many thousands of years. As Bertrand Russell once said, we will believe what we want to believe, regardless of the evidence, but in this case there is no reason not to believe, and there is sound "evidence" to support this, as indicated here.

As a separate point, there are many channelled indications from other planetary systems that there is life below earth : there is a lot of references to it in some detail in Patricia Cori's "Atlantis Rising", which is channelled communications from the Sirian High Council (see www.sirianrevelations.net). We can't "prove" anything from channelled writings, so it is up to the individual to "believe" or not. The book is a great read anyway.

[micjer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjMjqsRc3K4&eurl=http://theforceiswithinyou.twilightlegend.com/latest-known-discoveries-f13/hollow-earth-t162.htm

More theories on the subject.

[viking]

A very interesting read I thought you might enjoy..:winksmiley02:


An exploration flight over the north pole.....

There comes a time when the rationality of men must fade into insignificance and one must accept the inevitability of the Truth! I am not at liberty to disclose the following documentation at this writing ...perhaps it shall never see the light of public scrutiny, but I must do my duty and record here for all to read one day. In a world of greed and exploitation of certain of mankind can no longer suppress that which is truth.


<Flight Log: Base Camp Arctic, 2/19/1947

0600 Hours - All preparations are complete for our flight northward and we are airborne with full fuel tanks at 0610 Hours.

0620 Hours - fuel mixture on starboard engine seems too rich, adjustment made and Pratt Whittneys are running smoothly.

0730 Hours - Radio Check with base camp. All is well and radio reception is normal.

0740 Hours - Note slight oil leak in starboard engine, oil pressure indicator seems normal, however.

0800 Hours - Slight turbulence noted from easterly direction at altitude of 2321 feet, correction to 1700 feet, no further turbulence, but tail wind increases, slight adjustment in throttle controls, aircraft performing very well now.

0815 Hours- Radio Check with base camp, situation normal.

0830 Hours - Turbulence encountered again, increase altitude to 2900 feet, smooth flight conditions again.

0910 Hours - Vast Ice and snow below, note coloration of yellowish nature, and disperse in a linear pattern. Altering course for a better examination of this color pattern below, note reddish or purple color also. Circle this area two full turns and return to assigned compass heading. Position check made again to Base Camp, and relay information concerning colorations in the Ice and snow below.

0910 Hours - Both Magnetic and Gyro compasses beginning to gyrate and wobble, we are unable to hold our heading by instrumentation. Take bearing with Sun compass, yet all seems well. The controls are seemingly slow to respond and have sluggish quality, but there is no indication of Icing!

0915 Hours - In the distance is what appears to be mountains.

0949 Hours - 29 minutes elapsed flight time from the first sighting of the mountains, it is no illusion. They are mountains and consisting of a small range that I have never seen before!

0955 Hours - Altitude change to 2950 feet, encountering strong turbulence again.

1000 Hours - We are crossing over the small mountain range and still proceeding northward as best as can be ascertained. Beyond the mountain range is what appears to be a valley with a small river or stream running through the center portion. There should be no green valley below! Something is definitely wrong and abnormal here! We should be over Ice and Snow! To the portside are great forests growing on the mountain slopes. Our navigation Instruments are still spinning, the gyroscope is oscillating back and forth!

1005 Hours - I alter altitude to 1400 feet and execute a sharp left turn to better examine the valley below. It is green with either moss or a type of tight-knit grass. The Light here seems different. I cannot see the Sun anymore. We make another left turn and we spot what seems to be a large animal of some kind below us. It appears to be an elephant! NO!!! It looks more like a mammoth! This is incredible! Yet, there it is! Decrease altitude to 1000 feet and take binoculars to better examine the animal. It is confirmed - it is definitely a mammoth-like animal! Report this to Base Camp.

1030 Hours - Encountering more rolling green hills now. The external temperature indicator reads 74 degrees Fahrenheit! Continuing on our heading now. Navigation instruments seem normal now. I am puzzled over their actions. Attempt to contact Base Camp. Radio is not functioning!

1130 Hours - Countryside below is more level and normal (if I may use that word). Ahead we spot what seems to be a city!!!! This is impossible! Aircraft seems light and oddly buoyant. The controls refuse to respond!! My GOD!!! Off our port and starboard wings are a strange type of aircraft. They are closing rapidly alongside! They are disc-shaped and have a radiant quality to them.

They are close enough now to see the markings on them. It is a type of Swastika!!! This is fantastic. Where are we! What has happened. I tug at the controls again. They will not respond!!!! We are caught in an invisible vice grip of some type!

1135 Hours - Our radio crackles and a voice comes through in English with what perhaps is a slight Nordic or Germanic accent! The message is: 'Welcome, Admiral, to our Domain. We shall land you in exactly seven minutes! Relax, Admiral, you are in good hands.' I note the engines of our plane have stopped running! The aircraft is under some strange control and is now turning itself. The controls are useless.

1140 Hours - Another radio message received. We begin the landing process now, and in moments the plane shudders slightly, and begins a descent as though caught in some great unseen elevator! The downward motion is negligible, and we touch down with only a slight jolt!

1145 Hours - I am making a hasty last entry in the Flight Log. Several men are approaching on foot toward our aircraft. They are tall with blond hair. In the distance is a large shimmering city pulsating with rainbow hues of color. I do not know what is going to happen now, but I see no signs of weapons on those approaching. I hear now a voice ordering me by name to open the cargo door. I comply.

End Log

From this point I write all the following events here from memory. It defies the imagination and would seem all but madness if it had not happened. The radioman and I are taken from the aircraft and we are received in a most cordial manner. We were then boarded on a small platform-like conveyance with no wheels! It moves us toward the glowing city with great swiftness. As we approach, the city seems to be made of a crystal material. Soon we arrive at a large building that is a type I have never seen before. It appears to be right out of the design board of Frank Lloyd Wright, or perhaps more correctly, out of a Buck Rogers setting!! We are given some type of warm beverage which tasted like nothing I have ever savored before. It is delicious.

After about ten minutes, two of our wondrous appearing Hosts come to our quarters and announce that I am to accompany them. I have no choice but to comply. I leave my Radioman behind and we walk a short distance and enter into what seems to be an elevator. We descend downward for some moments, the machine stops, and the door lifts silently upward! We then proceed down a long hallway that is lit by a rose-colored light that seems to be emanating from the very walls themselves!

One of the beings motions for us to stop before a great door. Over the door is an inscription that I cannot read. The great door slides noiselessly open and I am beckoned to enter. One of my Hosts speaks. 'Have no fear, Admiral, you are to have an audience with the Master...'

I step inside and my eyes adjust to the beautiful coloration that seems to be filling the room completely. Then I begin to see my surroundings. What greeted my eyes is the most beautiful sight of my entire existence. It is in fact too beautiful and wondrous to describe. It is exquisite and delicate. I do not think there exists a Human term that can describe it in any detail with justice! My thoughts are interrupted in a cordial manner by a warm rich voice of melodious quality, 'I bid you welcome to our Domain, Admiral.' I see a man with delicate features and with the etching of years upon his face. He is seated at a long table. He motions me to sit down in one of the chairs. After I am seated, he places his fingertips together and smiles. He speaks softly again, and conveys the following.

“We have let you enter here because you are of noble character and well-known on the Surface World, Admiral.”

“Surface World?”, I half-gasp under my breath!

“Yes,” the Master replies with a smile, “you are in the domain of the Arianni, the Inner World of the Earth. We shall not long delay your mission, and you will be safely escorted back to the surface and for a distance beyond. But now, Admiral, I shall tell you why you have been summoned here. Our interest rightly begins just after your race exploded the first atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. It was at that alarming time we sent our flying machines, the "Flugelrads", to your surface world to investigate what your race had done. That is, of course, past history now, my dear Admiral, but I must continue on. You see, we have never interfered before in your race's wars, and barbarity, but now we must, for you have learned to tamper with a certain power that is not for Man, namely, that of atomic energy. Our emissaries have already delivered messages to the powers of your world, and yet they do not heed. Now you have been chosen to be witness here that our world does exist. You see, our Culture and Science is many thousands of years beyond your race, Admiral.”

I interrupted, “But what does this have to do with me, Sir?”

The Master's eyes seemed to penetrate deeply into my mind, and after studying me for a few moments he replied, “Your race has now reached the point of no return, for there are those among you who would destroy your very World rather than relinquish their power as they know it...”

I nodded, and the Master continued, “In 1945 and afterward, we tried to contact your race, but our efforts were met with hostility, our Flugelrads were fired upon. Yes, even pursued with malice and animosity by your fighter planes. So, now, I say to you, my son, there is a great storm gathering in your World, a black fury that will not spend itself for many years. There will be no answer in your Arms, there will be no safety in your Science. It may rage on until every flower of your culture is trampled, and all Human things are leveled in vast chaos. Your recent War was only a prelude of what is yet to come for your race. We here see it more clearly with each hour..do you say I am mistaken?”

“No,” I answer, “it happened once before, the Dark Ages came and they lasted for more than five hundred years.”

“Yes, my son,” replied the Master, “the Dark Ages that will come now for your race will cover the Earth like a pall, but I believe that some of your race will live through the storm, beyond that, I cannot say. We see at a great distance a new world stirring from the ruins of your race, seeking its lost and legendary treasures, and they will be here, my son, safe in our keeping. When that time arrives, we shall come forward again to help revive your culture and your race. Perhaps, by then, you will have learned the futility of war and its strife...and after that time, certain of your culture and science will be returned for your race to begin anew. You, my son, are to return to the Surface World with this message.....”

With these closing words, our meeting seemed at an end. I stood for a moment as in a deam....but, yet, I knew this was reality, and for some strange reason I bowed slightly, either out of respect or humility, I do not know which.

Suddenly, I was again aware that the two beautiful Hosts who had brought me here were again at my side. “This way, Admiral,” motioned one. I turned once more before leaving and looked back toward the Master. A gentle smile was etched on his delicate and ancient face. 'Farewell, my son,' he spoke, then he gestured with a lovely, slender hand a motion of peace and our meeting was truly ended.

Quickly, we walked back through the great door of the Master's chamber and once again entered into the elevator. The door slid silently downward and we were at once going upward. One of my hosts spoke again, “We must now make haste, Admiral, as the Master desires to delay you no longer on your scheduled timetable and you must return with his message to your race.”

I said nothing. All of this was almost beyond belief, and once again my thoughts were interrupted as we stopped. I entered the room and was again with my Radioman. He had an anxious expression on his face. As I approached, I said, “It is all right, Howie, it is all right.”

The two beings motioned us toward the awaiting conveyance, we boarded, and soon arrived back at the aircraft. The engines were idling and we boarded immediately. The whole atmosphere seemed charged now with a certain air of urgency. After the cargo door was closed the aircraft was immediately lifted by that unseen force until we reached an altitude of 2700 feet. Two of the aircraft were alongside for some distance guiding us on our return way. I must state here, the airspeed indicator registered no reading, yet we were moving along at a very rapid rate.

215 Hours - A radio message comes through. “We are leaving you now, Admiral, your controls are free. Auf Wiedersehen!!!!”

We watched for a moment as the flugelrads disappeared into the pale blue sky. The aircraft suddenly felt as though caught in a sharp downdraft for a moment. We quickly recovered her control. We do not speak for some time, each man has his thoughts....

Entry in Flight Log continues:

220 Hours - We are again over vast areas of ice and snow, and approximately 27 minutes from Base Camp. We radio them, they respond. We report all conditions normal....normal. Base Camp expresses relief at our re-established contact.

300 Hours - We land smoothly at Base Camp. I have a mission.....

End Log Entries:

March 11, 1947. I have just attended a Staff Meeting at the Pentagon. I have stated fully my discovery and the message from the Master. All is duly recorded. The President has been advised. I am now detained for several hours (six hours, thirty- nine minutes, to be exact.) I am interviewed intently by Top Security Forces and a medical team. It was an ordeal!!!! I am placed under strict control via the National Security provisions of this United States of America. I am ORDERED TO REMAIN SILENT IN REGARD TO ALL THAT I HAVE LEARNED, ON THE BEHALF OF HUMANITY!!! Incredible! I am reminded that I am a Military Man and I must obey orders.

30/12/56: Final Entry:

These last few years elapsed since 1947 have not been kind...I now make my final entry in this singular diary. In closing, I must state that I have faithfully kept this matter secret as directed all these years. It has been completely against my values of moral right. Now, I seem to sense the long night coming on and this secret will not die with me, but as all truth shall, it will triumph and so it shall.

This can be the only hope for Mankind. I have seen the truth and it has quickened my spirit and has set me free! I have done my duty toward the monstrous military industrial complex. Now, the long night begins to approach, but there shall be no end. Just as the long night of the Arctic ends, the brilliant sunshine of Truth shall come again....and those who are of darkness shall fall in it's Light. FOR I HAVE SEEN THAT LAND BEYOND THE POLE, THAT CENTER OF THE GREAT UNKNOWN.

Admiral Richard E. ByrdUnited States Navy

24 December 1956>

viking

[Dantheman62]

cool link micjer, and great article viking, here's some flight patterns I found, so why doesn't anybody see anything when flying over?

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_16/images/polar_fig1.jpg

[micjer]

Commenting on Giannini's statements about the impossibility of going straight north, over the North Pole and reaching the other side of the world, which would be the case if the Earth was convex, rather than concave, at the Pole, Palmer writes in his magazine, "Flying Saucers:"
"Many of the readers stated that commercial flights continually cross the Pole and fly to the opposite side of the Earth. This is not true, and though the Airline officials themselves, when asked, might say that they do, it is not literally true. They do make navigational maneuvers which automatically eliminate a flight beyond the Pole in a straight line, in every sense. Ask the pilots of these polar flights. And when they come to the exact point, name one trans-polar flight on which you can buy a ticket which actually crosses the North Pole.
"Examining the route of flights across the North Polar area we always find that they go around the Pole or to the side of it and never directly across it. This is strange. Surely a flight advertised as passing directly over the North Pole would attract many passengers who would like to have that experience. Yet, strangely, no airline offers such a flight. Their air routes always pass on one side of the Pole. Why? Is it not possible that if they went straight across the Pole, instead of landing on the opposite side of the Earth, the plane would go to that land beyond the Pole, `the center of the Great Unknown', as Admiral Byrd called it?"

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/HollowEarth_photo.jpg

http://infinity.usanethosting.com/Heart.Of.God/HollowEarth/index.htm

The Hollow Earth Dr. R. W. Bernard, B.A., M.A., Ph.D.


Before Columbus discovered America, belief in the existence of a New World across the Atlantic, in the form of a western continent, was considered as the dream of a madman.
Equally strange, in our own time, is the belief in the existence of a New World, a Subterranean World, in the hollow interior of the Earth, and which is as unknown to present humanity as the American continent was to Europeans prior to its discovery by Columbus. Yet there is no reason why it, too, may not be discovered and its existence established as a fact.

:original:

[KathyT]

Why would the earth be hollow? There is immense pressure as you move toward the center, it would implode. Any links to the science behind a hollow earth?
Never mind, I looked up the theory myself...

Your statement “There is immense pressure” is NOT proven by science. Science actually is silent when it comes to “proof” as to what is below the crust of planet earth. The deepest anyone has drilled into the crust has been the Russians. At the Kola Institute, the Russians drilled for more than 15 years to a depth in the crust of 40,226 feet, (7.62 miles). http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/multimedia/2008/08/gallery_kola_borehole
.


Check out this link of Apollo 8 and Apollo 16 photos of earth
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/hollowearth.html

I have. If you do the research yourself… if you look really carefully of the image of what looks like a ‘large hole’ on the planet… and draw a straight line along the continent you can see under the clouds, and point it to where you think it’s going towards the north… you’ll find that your line does not go anywhere near the north pole. The website uses Mr Jan Lamprecht’s name as the originator of the spectacular picture, but that website hasn’t done his homework. If that website had read Mr. Lamprecht’s book, “Hollow Planets”, they would find out that Mr. Lamprecht has disproved any connection of those photos with a hollow earth. Drawing the line along the continents misses the North Pole area by thousands of miles. The area in the picture is a weather pattern.

http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Images/NorthPole-hole-compare.jpg

But if you read Mr. Lamprecht’s book, you’ll find a treasure of other scientifically related theory which will give you lots of reasons to think there is much more down there than what has been taught previously.

=giaoue;82155]OK, if you want to know if anyone is looking into the Hollow Earth Theory then just look @ this website or youtube this 20 year + physicist's name Dr. Brooks Agnew @ www.x2-radio.com, he is planning a North Pole Inner Earth Expedition in Aug. 2009 on a nuclear-powered ice breaker owned by the Russians & it is going to have every one of the team on this expedition to have certain specific qualifications as well as being pretty aware & conscious. The ship is going to have cameras to show live feed on what they see we see if your on Agnew's website. I can't wait.

I sincerely hope he makes it and isn’t turned back by our the American or Russian military. I really want his expedition to succeed.

Another seismologist named Jan Lamprecht has a C2C youtube vid that is pretty interesting so please all who are very interested look it up & discern for yourself. I believe in everything because that is what we all are --- EVERY THING! :thumb_yello:Love SELF (Something Everything Loves Forever) :wub2::tongue2:

Jan Lamprecht was not a seismologist. But giaoue, you have mentioned an individual who has done the best feasibility study of a possible hollow earth.. by far the best. His book “Hollow Planets” is a must read for anyone interested in hollow earths. He will save you 10 years of personal study. He did for me.

It'd have to be a pretty damn small sun in the centre of the earth, and one that wouldn't burn for very long.

Ok, let’s see your evidence on your statement. Where is your documentation that the sun would have to be small and that it wouldn’t burn for very long?

Here’s a new scientific study released by D. F. Hollenbach and J. M. Herndon about nuclear fission at the center of our earth http://nuclearplanet.com/pnas-2001.pdf

Mr. Jan Lamprecht had said a scientist was about to release an amazing study about nuclear fission in the center of our earth… I’m glad to see that it is out.

i like that pic too...but, out of interest: is it relevant to this topic?

it would appear to be the reaction between the magnetosphere and charged solar particles producing auroras.
i just want to make sure that you didnt include that as a form of evidence for hollow earth. great pic tho...

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Rogue, he has every right to present the auroras as relevant to the topic. What he didn’t do, is explain why.

Read chapter 10 in Jan Lamprecht’s feasibility study on Hollow Planets and you’ll see why auroras may offer evidence to a possible hollow earth.

There are some good YouTube videos of interviews of Jan Lamprecht, who lives in Africa, such as this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBnWbPSLfO4

His book is an incredible feasibility study of our earth being hollow. He has saved me about 10 years of study, I think. He talks about seismology, geology, plate tectonics, the Aurora’s at both poles, the theory of gravity, underground radio waves, and early research done by artic explorers before our governments have censored everything they know about both poles.

I was just reading part of a chapter of his book this morning.

He says: “In the early 1980’s, while browsing through the Pretoria public library, I came upon a book which discussed the effects of a nuclear war. … Since the major powers of the world are located in the northern hemisphere and since a nuclear exchange is more likely to take place in the northern hemisphere, the author made a point which surprised me. Scientists had concluded that very little radioactive fallout from the northern hemisphere would reach the southern hemisphere. … Meteorology teaches us that winds tend to blow from the equator to the poles and back. Hence radioactive material blowing from the north towards the equator is very likely to be caught up by poleward winds and circulated back to the north. This will happen before the radioactive fallout manages to cross the equator into the southern hemisphere.
“On April 26, 1986, the worst peace-time nuclear accident to date occurred. (Chernobyl)… Being aware of the virtual impossibility of nuclear fallout reaching the southern hemisphere, you can imagine my surprise on learning that scientists suddenly discovered radioactive fallout from Chernobyl – at the South Pole.
“This was reported in Science News in May 1990. Jack E. Dibb, a geochemist from the University of New Hampshire collected samples from a snow pit about 38 Km from the South Pole. … They found a “spike” in the snow deposited near the top of the pit. This snow had fallen some time between late 1987 and early 1988. More specifically, they found that the radioactivity from caesium-137 which does not occur naturally. Caesium-137 only comes from nucleur reactors or nuclear explosions. Scientists have discovered that it takes approximately 20 months for radioactive fallout from nuclear tests in the northern hemisphere to reach the South Pole. The radioactive deposits from Chernobyl also took 20 months to reach the South Pole.
“But how? … Atmospheric scientists doubted whether significant amounts of Chernobyl fallout could ever cross the equator and be deposited at the South Pole. … The problem becomes even more mysterious because it turns out that there is no evidence whatsoever that the radioactive material ever crossed the equator to begin with. (It should have been detected at various places en route) … and in other parts of Antarctica. But there was none. Furthermore, as the radioactive material continued its journey there would have been less and less of it as it approached the South Pole. Instead, it turns out that there is a high concentration of this material at this one spot in Antarctica. (close to the South Pole).”

Jan Lampredht presents a theory that holes may exist, and that atmosphere of inner earth and outer earth interchange, and that air enters the North Pole (from the Chernobyl fallout), and passed through the inner earth, and came out a Southern pole opening. The resulting snow fall at the South pole has captured a dated history of the Chernobyl incident, and of other earth history.

I found these sorts of theories very fascinating. He’s done his homework, and he presents his studies in a thorough manner throughout the entire book.

You won’t regret it if you get the book.

[micjer]

KathyT,

Very interesting research on the fallout from Chernobyl. If the hypothesis is correct that it may have gone through the center of the earth, you can see why the people inhabiting the inner earth would have a vested interest in what goes on up here. In the press conference with the disclosure project, military officials talked of missiles misfiring and being unable to launch nuclear rockets because they thought UFO's were interfering. Makes sense that they would try to stop it. Also if you read Admiral Byrd's log, it is the bombs in Japan that they were concerned about. Also he stated that they had flying saucer technology so I am just putting the two things together.

:thumb_yello:

[KathyT]

KathyT,

Very interesting research on the fallout from Chernobyl. If the hypothesis is correct that it may have gone through the center of the earth, you can see why the people inhabiting the inner earth would have a vested interest in what goes on up here. In the press conference with the disclosure project, military officials talked of missiles misfiring and being unable to launch nuclear rockets because they thought UFO's were interfering. Makes sense that they would try to stop it. Also if you read Admiral Byrd's log, it is the bombs in Japan that they were concerned about. Also he stated that they had flying saucer technology so I am just putting the two things together.

:thumb_yello:

Exactly. Our nuclear explosions could pollute their inner earth. And our other air pollution could be polluting their inner earth atmosphere.

Everybody speculates about Aliens coming thousands of light years to reach earth... when there is a possibility that several species of advanced aliens... aliens so advanced that they actually "created" us humans, living right here on planet earth... in inner earth.

All animals inhabiting the earth's surface other than humans have adapted to cold and hot extremes, for thousands of years. They have fur coats or feathers and migrate to and from very northern climates. Man would die if he couldn't wear clothes. Most animals have eyesight to see at nighttime, even birds. Humans can't see in the dark. Humans, if not wearing clothes or eye protection, get extreme sunburn in the tropics, and suffer eye damage if their eyes are not protected.

There is a theory that humans were developed from an inner race of beings... beings who live in a temperate climate inside earth, no cold and no hot extremes. Their genetics were mixed with the best homo sapien genetics on the surface.

And that could be why the inner earth species can not survive on the surface of this planet, as they are even less able to tolerate the extremes as even mankind can.

[Dantheman62]

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/IMAGES/hollow_earth1.JPG

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/IMAGES/hollow_earth_from_apollo_11_1969.jpg

[KathyT]

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/IMAGES/hollow_earth1.JPG

Folks, I suggest that you do your research.
Jan Lamprecht discusses every photo he could get his hands on.

This photo is Nasa’s ESSA 7 photograph taken November 23, 1968. I’ll quote Jan.

“When Hollow Earthers in the 1960’s first presented this satellite photo as evidence they stated that the Earth’s Polar Holes were covered by fog and mist. These ideas were borrowed directly from Marshall Gardner and others earlier. They believed that the hot air from the tropical Inner Earth caused a constant fog in the polar regions. They argued that one could not see this Polar Hole most of the time because of the fog which covered the polar regions and which was impossible to tell from the clouds and snow in the region.
“This photo, so they said, represented one of those exceptional days when the fog cleared and, for a short time, one could look into the vast chasm leading into the Earth. The black region is where the Earth curves inwards and the Sun cannot shine into it.

“NASA’s explanation for this photograph is that it is a montage of photographs taken over a period of time.
“So who is right?

“The real key to this photograph lies in recognizing that there is no night side in this photograph. Here one is looking down on the Earth from the North Pole and the equator lies on the out edges of the photograph. The Earth is inclined to its orbit by 23.5 degrees and so the Arctic regions can have 24 hours of sunlight in mid-summer. I don’t know when this “photo” was taken so one could perhaps have argued that it was taken in mid-summer. But, the Earth is only tilted by 23.5 degrees, and so 24 hours of sun-light can only exist within the Artic circle. In this photo we can see the sunlight regions stretching down to the equator. This is clearly an impossibility. The only valid explanation therefore is NASA’s. (end quote.)

Sorry. I agree with Jan.
You'll have to read his book about many of the other interesting photos.

[ries]

Here is a link to a site with some daily pictures of the northpole from the month june 2007.

http://www.vgt.vito.be/AShtml/c110_s200711_NorthPole.html

It 'seems' solid to me.

Greetings,

Ries.

"by courtesy of the VEGETATION Programme, produced by VITO"

[Mercuriel]

Just plain done...

[viking]

Found this on my travels ....


<The Channelings of Djwhal Khul on the Hollow Earth


Whenever I do research on a given subject I like to get Djwhal Khul's feedback on the information I have come up with. Upon sharing with Him what I have shared with you in this book, he had a number of interesting things to add.

First off, he confirmed that Admiral Byrd did, indeed, travel to the Inner Earth as he said he did. He said that there is a Sun in the Inner Earth, but it is different than our outer Sun. He said that the Aurora Borealis was not caused by the Sun of the Inner Earth, but from a different light source. he said that the opening at the Poles were very wide and ships and planes can fly into it, however it is naturally protected by some kind of energy field. People can find it if they really search for it, however, it is slightly camouflaged by this energy field.

He confirmed that there were entrances to the Inner Earth in Egypt, Tibet and the Yukatan, and also added that there were other entrances in the Bermuda Triangle, Soviet Union, and Africa.

He said that there were different races in the Inner Earth just like on the surface of the Earth, and some of them are quite tall. He also confirmed that the United States Government and other countries are aware of the Inner Earth and are coverin up the fact as they are with UFO's and extraterrestrials.

Dr Joshua David Stone – http://www.iamuniversity.ch/Agartha-In-The-Hollow-Earth

viking

[micjer]

I truly believe that just looking at it, or taking a picture we probably would not see anything different. I feel it is the same as Mount Shasta. To look at it seems solid, yet UFO's seem to fly into it. Same goes for the Bermuda Triangle phenomenon where people just disappear.

I feel it is an illusion that until you are actually flying or sailing into you would not know there is anything there. Admiral Byrd did not say he could see any hole below him. He just kept flying and all of sudden there was mountains in the distance and then vegatation and then he saw mammoths.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/hawa3967_small.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/viet7845_small.jpg

[micjer]

Here is a link to a site with some daily pictures of the northpole from the month june 2007.

http://www.vgt.vito.be/AShtml/c110_s200711_NorthPole.html

It 'seems' solid to me.

Greetings,

Ries.

"by courtesy of the VEGETATION Programme, produced by VITO"

great link ries...

This is why we are discussing this as a hypothesis. Still think the earth is hollow because it connects so many other dots... Just figuring out how to get there!! lol

:lol3:

[KathyT]

Here is a link to a site with some daily pictures of the northpole from the month june 2007.
http://www.vgt.vito.be/AShtml/c110_s200711_NorthPole.html

It 'seems' solid to me.
"by courtesy of the VEGETATION Programme, produced by VITO"

Thank you for the reference to a site showing pictures of the northpole, as I am seeking this very thing.
However, this site seems to be worthless.
There is no guarantee any hole(s) into inner earth are 2 miles across, 20 miles across, or 200 miles across, etc. In my way of thinking of things, even a hole 20 miles across would be some amazing tunnel and many a plane or jet or UFO would fit quite nicely.

But what would you see if you were looking down on earth from a satellite from 100 miles out in space? Would you see the hole? Does this “VITO” source of a satellite picture provide proof of the absence of a hole?

I think it offers no proof at all.
I am skilled with Photoshop.
I downloaded one of the “VITO” images and dropped it into Photoshop. I also loaded up Google Earth, and compared what you see at Google Earth of the same area of the North Pole. And here is what you get.
Google on the left, VITO on the right. Greenland is in the lower left quadrant of both, I tried to align Google as best as I could. Ask yourself, what do you see right or wrong about both pictures?
http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Images/NorthPole-compare-1.jpg

NASA/Google, as they always are doing, are suppressing lots of things in their picture, and are not showing you the real artic ice that is up there. This is Winter, you should see lots of artic ice cap. The VITO image on the right, says it is a June 2007 picture, taken in the summer, when lots of the artic ice cap is still there. So that should tell you right now that NASA is HIDING the real truth. They don’t want you to know what is on the thousands of square miles at the artic ice cap.

So you might think that the VITO image is “proof” of no hole. Wrong again. Look closely. It looks like lots of ice, lots of weather, lots of white? But how much detail do you see? If you know how Google earth works, you know you can zoom in, zoom right down to the ground, and see lots of detail. You can see structures of houses if you get close enough, and that is the detail you SHOULD expect coming from a satellite. No less than that with today’s technology.

You can’t judge these pictures until you use a tool like Photoshop to zoom in. As you zoom in, you are going in towards the pixel level of the picture. The higher quality of picture, the more pixels, the further you have to zoom to get to the pixel level. Look at these:

http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Images/NorthPole-compare-2.jpg
Both of these are zoomed to the exact same place on those pictures. I choose a spot on Greenland, on the left side, where there is sort of an island, in green, not just of the white ice. What do you see?

On the Google Earth picture, you see lots of detail. On the VITO picture, the resolution was so poor that you’re already down to pixels. You can’t get the detail from the VITO picture. They can hide anything they want on those VITO pictures. Those VITO satellite pictures are basically worthless when it comes to determining whether “it’s pretty solid there”. Score one for NASA in fooling the public again!

But also look at the detail Google gives you. Don’t believe that you’re seeing the “real” McCoy. Look closely around the island. Look at the dark blue on the upper left of the island, and how it is cropped off when it meets the ocean. Look at the shadow all around the island. That is another blurring technique used by NASA to distort the real photo. Look at the square block overlay on part of the island. More proof that they’ve overlaid something… to hide. There is so much evidence that they have manipulated the Google Earth picture that it is no laughing matter.

America is approx 2,300 miles across. Do you think they could hide something in the hills of America? Yes, they do, at multiple military sites. How much of Nevada have you personally travelled over?
The artic ice cap area is approx 2,000 miles across. Ice cold, barren near flat fozen area. How many people do you know are "living" up there? None. Why would there be anything to hide? Is that the prime spot on this planet to build a City, or public buildings for us all to travel to? NO. There shouldn't be anything to hide in that 2,000 square miles area, the size which is almost the size of all of America. How do you get up there, can you purchase a ticket, drive your car? NO. Do you think it would be easy to hide something that few human beings would ever find? You darn tooting, there would be.

So I’m looking still, for real photos of the north pole.

[ries]

Nice work Kathy,
it's a pity that all images on the Vito website are in reduced resolution.
And still then they could have been photoshopped.

I found a other reference to a japanese side.
But these are also in a not so good resolution.
http://suzaku.eorc.jaxa.jp/GLI/cryos/gallery/2glicrygal.html
Strangely enough they cut out the center of the northpole on every picture.

You can walk through the gallery.

[micjer]

odd, or is it?

[KathyT]

I found a other reference to a japanese side.
But these are also in a not so good resolution.
http://suzaku.eorc.jaxa.jp/GLI/cryos/gallery/2glicrygal.html
Strangely enough they cut out the center of the northpole on every picture.


The Japanese photo is very poor quality, low resolution. Here’s what it looks like when you zoom down to the pixel level… I was able to find that very same ‘island’.
Full photo from suzaku.eorc.jaxa.jp on the left, zoomed in photo of island on the right.
http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Images/NorthPole-compare-3.jpg

Even the University of Illinois website I gave early, which shows you daily cryospheric photos, has a strange dot North Pole Ice cap: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere I've watched the Illinois cryosphere photos for months... and many times see a concaved valley shadow right around the dot. It shows up a lot. It seems really strange to always be in that one spot. I don't know what to think about it.
http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Univ-Illinois-10-03-08-sm.jpg

So NASA and the European space agency will keep throwing low resolution photos at us, and smudged photos at us, because the average person just doesn’t think much about it… and that is a form of mind manipulation. The public thinks it has seen nothing but ice at the north and south poles, and doesn’t get upset at the fact that there is a huge DECEPTION going on.

Yet how much time did we spend on the Watergate cover-up, and Monica Lewinsky?

[micjer]

Here are some incredible Arctic mysteries to whet your appetite:-

1. As a result of my first appearance on the Art Bell show in September 1999, a listener told me about an amazing 4 page article from Popular Science magazine in 1923.

2. Below is a photograph of a piece of land which does not exist. The most fascinating aspect of Dr Cook's story was his photograph of a place he called Bradley Land. He had taken a photograph of a very large piece of land out in the Arctic Ocean to the north west of Canada.

In Cook's Bradley Land photograph (above), we can see his sledges in the foreground and large hills in the background. Those are the hills of Bradley Land - a land which does not exist! Cook marked Bradley Land on his maps. I was struck by the fact that Bradley Land was very close to Peary's Crocker Land! It is very interesting that the two foremost polar explorers of that time should both give solid reports of land in virtually the same area. Since Cook was later thrown in prison (for a crime he never committed) he was simply accused of faking this photograph.

3. 100 years ago an Amercian scientist, Dr R. Harris of the Geodetic Survey, noted something strange about tides along the northern coastline of Alaska. He wrote in an article in the National Geographic that he believed a massive piece of land was interfering with the tide coming from the north. Take a look at this image produced by a modern scientist who is a tidal specialist. It shows how all tides in the Arctic are dampened and die down to the West of Canada. The round dark blue spot is not far from where Admiral Peary sited Crocker Land.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/bradley2.gif

http://www.hollowplanets.com/

[KathyT]

Yes. www.hollowplanets.com is the website of Jan Lamprecht, who wrote the book I recommended, “Hollow Planets”. He did cover several earlier artic explores including Dr. Cook and his photo of Bradley Land, Commander Peary and Crocker Land, and his chapters cover a unique type of mirages called polar ‘superior mirages' because they are seen upside down.

[karelia]

http://www.holloworbs.com/ has a lot of information on the hollow earth theory, which some may find interesting.

[orthodoxymoron]

On the government issued film of 'Operation High Jump' there was a section of Antarctica shown which has no ice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x40A0sBL34 Could this be an indication of a polar opening into an inner earth? Also, what is the Gizeh Intelligence? They supposedly were behind Hitler. Did he live with them after the war? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IBHyUCw-vg&feature=related Are they inner earth humanoids(reptillian?) who are behind the mystery schools, secret societies, the Illuminati, our religions, the NWO, etc? I don't know. I'm not sold on an inner sun...with a vast open space...but openings at the poles, underground bases and cities connected by a tunnel system is something which could conceivably exist. The truth is down there...but I'm not sure we can handle the truth. The horror! The following is a link to the first part of a YouTube series on the 'Hollow Earth': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIRdDA_EDfM&feature=related. Here is the first part of an Art Bell show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBnWbPSLfO4&feature=related.

[KathyT]

I'm not sold on an inner sun...with a vast open space....

Up to now, I don't think any part of science has looked at the possibility of a nuclear reaction in the center of earth.... up to now....

Here’s a new scientific study released by D. F. Hollenbach and J. M. Herndon about nuclear fission at the center of our earth http://nuclearplanet.com/pnas-2001.pdf

Mr. Jan Lamprecht (who wrote "Hollow Planets") had said a scientist was about to release an amazing study about nuclear fission in the center of our earth… I’m glad to see that it is out.

[orthodoxymoron]

Perhaps Paradise or Heaven exists in the center of Earth(Benevolent Pleiadians?). Perhaps we(Pleiadians without a clue?) are in Purgatory on the surface of Earth. Perhaps Hell exists in between...complete with Reptillians and the Devil Himself(Herself?) in cahoots with Malevolent Greys and Malevolent Pleiadians? Maybe we need to get rid of Mr. In-Between!? I'm open to accepting just about anything...or rejecting just about anything. We undoubtedly have much to learn...and even more to unlearn. Hope I don't go nuk'n futs!:tongue2: Doesn't the movie 2010 feature a second sun? Alex Collier speaks of a second sun currently existing in our solar system. No kidding. Hmmmm. I'd love to know what Admiral Byrd and James Forrestal REALLY knew. Powerful people (and reptillians?) obviously didn't want insignificant peons like me to know much of anything. 'Keep the slaves barefooted and stupid. We'll run the planet, start the wars, drop the atomic bombs, hoard anti-gravity and free energy technology, subvert the governments and religions, brainwash the kids and give them drugs, ruin the economies, assassinate any leader with a conscience and a brain. We've got everything under control...OUR control.' Do I sound bitter? The log of Admiral Byrd is amazing, if genuine! Could Hitler have started out dealing with the hollow earth beings...and then been taken over by the beings in the earth's crust? Could this explain the contrast between the 30's and 40's in Germany? I know this is REALLY farfetched...yet the whole Nazi phenomenon is very, very strange...and in many ways...makes no sense.

[micjer]

Antartic research. One of the things they are doing is string theory data research and the proof of other dimensions. The research is called AMANDA.
http://www.amanda.uci.edu/results.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Muon_And_Neutrino_Detector_Array

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/19-C130flyover2.jpg


http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/07-Erebus.jpg

This is a volcanic mountain in Antarctic.

[sunlite28]

I'm enjoying this thread alot! :naughty: i say keep your mind open to such concepts! loving the pictures also!

other dimensions exist most definately ~ port holes also ~ just wish someone could come up with a machine to measure the energy shift around one ~ now that would be money well spent!!! :naughty:

[micjer]

Are you curious what is under the dome?

Check out these you-tube vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN_zMOQ0rjc&eurl=http://www.astrovera.com/forum/f7/hollow-earth-clue-t1955/page11.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlGEB6kTNyw&feature=related

:smoke:

[orthodoxymoron]

Bill Cooper stated the following in his talk 'The Secret Government':

'THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY IS IN GENEVA, SWITZERLAND. THE RULING BODY IS MADE UP OF THREE COMMITTEES CONSISTING OF THIRTEEN MEMBERS EACH, AND ALL THREE TOGETHER COMPRISE THE 39 MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE BODY KNOWN AS THE BILDERBERG GROUP. The most important and powerful of the three committees is the Policy Committee. (It is more than interesting to note that the United States had thirteen original colonies and that 39 delegates from these colonies signed the Constitution after it was written and adopted in the first Constitutional Convention. Do you believe that is coincidence?) Policy Committee meetings are held on a nuclear submarine beneath the polar icecap. A Soviet sub and an American sub join at an airlock and the meeting is convened. The secrecy is such that this was the only method which would ensure that the meetings could not be bugged.'

If true...was avoiding bugging the real reason? Couldn't they just meet in a sub anywhere? Why would two docked subs be required? Was there really just one sub which docked at a secret base? Was the two sub story just a lie to give the crew(and anyone else) a snow-job? Did(does?) the Bilderberg Policy Committee meet at a sub-polar icecap/inner earth submarine(ufo?) base beneath the polar icecap with representatives of the hollow earth, the earth's crust...or both? Do 3 groups of 13 meet under the polar icecap? 13 hollow earth representatives(Pleiadian Aryan Fascists?)...13 earth crust representatives(Reptillian Fascists?)...and 13 surface earth representatives(Human[hybrid?] Fascists?)? Are the Greys just the errand-androids? Might Adolph Hitler have attended some of these meetings(after WII)? Is Lucifer the chairman of the board? Is Lucifer the God of This World? Do they perform a satanic ritual, complete with a human sacrifice to Lucifer? I'd better quit! This is getting creepy! Calling David Icke!

IS THIS THE REAL TRI-LATERAL COMMISSION? IS THIS THE ROTTEN CORE OF THE OLD WORLD DISORDER ALIEN-THEOCRACY?

Bilder Burger with Big Cheeses? Super-size the Government? Sorry. I know that was in poor taste...and you guys thought Alex Jones was a pain with his darn bullhorn!

[micjer]

Is that weird or what. I just noticed what time came up that I edited the above post (4 back) 11:11


:offtopic:

[micjer]

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/aurora_img_2005254.jpg

http://www.nasa.gov/mov/133778main_FUV_640x480.mov

Play this movie from NASA a few times and visualize as though the light is causing the southern lights is coming from an inner sun. There is one point near the end of the short vid where you can see a center hole!


:mfr_omg:

Anyone who has google earth. Go to the south pole. co-ordinates 89.59'53.90"s and 111.00'18.86"E now zoom in. Put your mouse at the center. Check out the elevation right on the south pole. ...... 0 !!!! same as sea level. Thought it was all land. Don't think so..:trumpet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DirMYyERmVI

[micjer]

http://www.holloworbs.com/ has a lot of information on the hollow earth theory, which some may find interesting.

yes very interesting..

http://www.holloworbs.com/real_mars.htm
In the book “ Journey to the Earth’s Interior,” ( 1913 ) Marshall B. Gardner gathers together testimony relating to the sightings of a gleam or glint of light emanating from the North Polar area of Mars, which was observed by the astronomers Lowell, Mitchell and Green, all during different years and and from different locations. Gardner makes a strong case in favor of the hypothesis that the light originates from the interior of Mars, from the planet’s inner sun.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/real_m6.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/real_m7.jpg


The above is a photograph of Mars provided by the Hubble Space telescope. The central depression/crater is visible right at the Martian North Pole. It is about 10% of the diameter of the entire planet, a huge crater. It is deep, shockingly deep. And the reader will note that it is practically empty, as even some orangish ground can be seen at the bottom along with some residual ice. This tells us that the above picture is a picture of the Northern Martian hemisphere in the summer, as the “ ice cap “ has largely melted and the crater is empty.

A polar depression such as the one which we see at the top of Mars, is simply a natural result of the planet’s formative process. The amount of centrifugal force which would have been necessary to impose the almost perfect roundness upon the exterior surface of the planet would have surely opened up a cavity within. Matter would have been drawn towards the equator, making the equatorial region thicker, leaving the crust at the axial points thin- or even ruptured- at the top.

[KathyT]

The above is a photograph of Mars provided by the Hubble Space telescope. The central depression/crater is visible right at the Martian North Pole. It is about 10% of the diameter of the entire planet, a huge crater. It is deep, shockingly deep. And the reader will note that it is practically empty, as even some orangish ground can be seen at the bottom along with some residual ice. This tells us that the above picture is a picture of the Northern Martian hemisphere in the summer, as the “ ice cap “ has largely melted and the crater is empty.



The unfortunate thing, is that I couldn't determine anything from these two photos to support any theory. I even searched on NASA and Hubble websites to see if I could download them in higher resolution so that I could examine them, and I couldn't find a high resolution download.

But I do think the full Mars photo is a pretty picture!

The problem, is when you do zoom in on these low resolution photos, you get to the pixel level really quickly. And that diminishes what you can see. You just can't get close enough to the surface with enough clarity to do much more than guess.

Here's a zoomed in look of the Mars photo, of the 'crater', using Photoshop. You begin to see the pixel outlines. I want to demonstrate that insufficient detail exists in this photo. A lot could be hidden there. It could be just a huge crater, or it could be even be deeper.

If anyone can point me to an actual high resolution download, I would appreciate it.

http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Images/MarsNorthPole.jpg

[micjer]

Kathy,

Shame you can't zoom in closer.

I am more interested in the small hole you can see at 1:00 oclock in the top b/w picture, more than the crater itself. It almost looks bright, but it is hard to tell.

[KathyT]

Kathy,
Shame you can't zoom in closer.

I am more interested in the small hole you can see at 1:00 oclock in the top b/w picture, more than the crater itself. It almost looks bright, but it is hard to tell.

One can zoom in closer, but the pixel density, or resolution, doesn't get any better.
I had to spin the Mars globe to get the small hole to line up so that I could zoom in, and here's what you get:
http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Images/NASA-Mars-2.jpg

Don't forget you can download the World Wind software free.

[PK47]

This is from Alex Collier's BooK:
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Inside the Planet: The Hollow Earth

All planets, suns and moons that are real, that were created by part of the creation, are hollow. There are no exceptions. I want you to look for Life magazine, an issue that was published on November 10, 1967. It shows a photograph of the Earth taken by the lunar orbiter, which shows a 1,600 mile diameter egress into the planet at the north polar area.

Now, we are always taught that the Earth is round, a sphere. Being somewhat pear-shaped, this is mostly true. However, persisted legends of flat areas. The top of the planet, having been hit a glancing blow by a planetary body billions of years ago, is very flat. Most space photographs of the Earth either delete the top of the planet to some degree, or the photo's are doctored to show what the public expects to see. The magnetic north pole is at 23.5 degrees latitude. About 200 miles south of the circular dip at the top of the planet is a 78 mile diameter opening into the planet. It's technically in northern Canada.

Now, according to the Andromedans, the nature of gravity is different than we are told. We are told that because a planet spins on its axis, the centrifugal force "creates gravity". Well, according to the Andromedans, that is not at all accurate, and that gravity is produced by highly penetrating radiation in the electromagnetic spectrum at a frequency of about 1 trillion cycles per second.

Because our planet is hollow, it contains different caverns throughout its shell. It can support many times the life we think it can because there is a lot more livable surface area than we are taught there is. The following is a description of what it is like to descend into the interior of the Earth, given to me by the Andromedans:

"When you go five miles into your Earth, you will rapidly lose body
weight. The reason for this is the limited ability of gravity radiations
and the gravity radiations and gravity effects of the Earth above
counteract the gravity effects of the Earth below. Their counteracting
effects are enhanced by the mass of the Earth above which will
transform some of the infrared radiations emanated by matter into a
gravity-producing radiation per the laws of redistribution. When you
reach a depth of ten miles, you will notice that it begins to get lighter around you"

Vasais said that there are no shadows to be found anywhere in the interior of the Earth at a depth of 100 miles because the light is contained in the particles that come from all directions and not a single source. In other words, the air itself seems to glow, along with everything else. Plant and animal forms flourish and grow larger than on the surface of the planet. At a depth of some 700 to 729 miles, one reaches a space of almost zero gravity because of the screening effect of soft particles. Going further about another 700 miles or so, you break out into the surface of the inner sphere, which has gravity due to the mechanics of the soft electrons and other balancing forces. An inner sun has formed because the particles of light concentrate at the center.

Now, the orbit of the Earth has been changed three times, according to the Andromedans. During the time of Atlantis, is was possible to see both of the suns in our solar system, and the benefit of this is that you had day and twilight instead of day and night. But then, the planet was moved.

Q: Why was the planet moved?
A: I don't know. That's a question the Pleiadians will have to answer. It was moved into its current orbit about 14,300 years ago. We cannot see the other sun now, and apparently is was done on purpose according to a larger agenda. This movement of the planet caused a lot of geological activity and flooding.

---------------------------------------

Also watch this lecture by Stewart Swerdlow where he talks about Hollow Earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2pEvbDv3gQ&feature=PlayList&p=0C6FF6F4AC8D2F34&index=0&playnext=1

:original:

[micjer]

http://www.spaceweather.com/

this is interesting image of the northern lights. it is circular like an inner sun rather than solid light.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/poes_image_20090224.gif

beautiful picture

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/Sylvain-Serre1_strip.jpg

[micjer]

picture of venus on the south pole showing a vortex

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/060413_venus_exp_02.jpg

http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=060413_venus_exp_02.jpg&cap=Composite%2C+false-color+view+of+Venus+south+pole+captured+by+VIRTIS+ 12+April+2006+onboard+Venus+Express.+Credits%3A+ES A%2FINAF-IASF%2C+Rome%2C+Italy%2C+and+Observatoire+de+Paris %2C+France

Are all planets/moons hollow? Seems to be strangeness to back this theory up.

[orthodoxymoron]

This may have already been covered...but if there is a hollow earth with a central sun...does anyone live in there? If so...who? Is this where Hitler went after WWII? Or did Hitler live with the crust dwellers? Are there Earth-crust dwellers...and hollow-Earth dwellers? Are the crust dwellers Reptillian? Are the hollow-Earth dwellers Pleiadian? Are the Greys merely mercenaries who work for both? Were the Greys created by the Reptillians? Alex Collier describes huge alien spacecraft. Was he describing hollow planets? Or did he travel with the 'Andromedans' to our central earth? Do the crust dwellers raise hell with both us and the hollow Earth dwellers? What if the Reptillians hijacked one of those huge tunnel borers that we have?! Can't you see a cartoon with a Reptillian smoking a cigar while driving one of these borers...with Delta Force soldiers chasing it, and launching boring missiles armed with tactical nukes?! Reality may be much stranger than fiction. Or this may all be a crock!

[micjer]

This may have already been covered...but if there is a hollow earth with a central sun...does anyone live in there? If so...who? Is this where Hitler went after WWII? Or did Hitler live with the crust dwellers? Are there Earth-crust dwellers...and hollow-Earth dwellers? Are the crust dwellers Reptillian? Are the hollow-Earth dwellers Pleiadian? Are the Greys merely mercenaries who work for both? Were the Greys created by the Reptillians? Alex Collier describes huge alien spacecraft. Was he describing hollow planets? Or did he travel with the 'Andromedans' to our central earth? Do the crust dwellers raise hell with both us and the hollow Earth dwellers? What if the Reptillians hijacked one of those huge tunnel borers that we have?! Can't you see a cartoon with a Reptillian smoking a cigar while driving one of these borers...with Delta Force soldiers chasing it, and launching boring missiles armed with tactical nukes?! Reality may be much stranger than fiction. Or this may all be a crock!

That's a lot of questions!!! :mfr_omg:

Could answer yes to them all but I really don't know. Pretty hard to go there and look. All I can say is that where this smoke there is fire. We just have to keep sweeping throught the forest looking for embers.

Here is something that is interesting.....

Admiral Byrd said when he flew past the north pole and into a warm climate that there were giants among other things.

Now read in the book of Genesis 6:4

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that"

It says IN, not on the earth. Food for thought. :thumb_yello:

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/plitvickaJezera.jpg

[micjer]

Earth and other planets are giant geodes.


Geodes (Greek geoides, "earthlike") are geological rock formations which occur in sedimentary and certain volcanic rocks. Geodes are essentially rock cavities or vugs with internal crystal formations or concentric banding. The exterior of the most common geodes is generally limestone or a related rock, while the interior contains quartz crystals and/or chalcedony deposits. Other geodes are completely filled with crystal, being solid all the way through. These types of geodes are called nodules.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geode

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/Geode_angle_300x267.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/800px-Large_Geode_Carefree_AZ.jpg

[orthodoxymoron]

micjer: I'm not a Bible thumper...but the Bible may contain vital clues regarding what is really going on in our crazy world! People who blindly accept the Bible and what their church tells them...make a huge mistake. However, people who blindly reject the Bible and what theologians say...make an even greater mistake. The quest for genuine truth is a very tricky path...with sheer cliffs of great height along the way. By the way...this thread does not exist. It's merely a hologram.:lol3::lmao::naughty::roftl:

[micjer]

micjer: I'm not a Bible thumper...but the Bible may contain vital clues regarding what is really going on in our crazy world! People who blindly accept the Bible and what their church tells them...make a huge mistake. However, people who blindly reject the Bible and what theologians say...make an even greater mistake. The quest for genuine truth is a very tricky path...with sheer cliffs of great height along the way. By the way...this thread does not exist. It's merely a hologram.:lol3::lmao::naughty::roftl:

I think you and I are on the same page. I am not a bible thumper either. I have heard that the bible is actually all written as a metaphor and once we read it as such there is much info to be taken out it.

:thumb_yello:

totally off topic but here is link to steven harfield. I really resonate with what he has to say.
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/shairfield2.htm

[alyscat]

There is - I had a conversation about this just yesterday. Books Agnew was recently on C2C

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M70JhlnRmpM

This is part 1 of the video where he talks about his upcoming expedition. In part 2, he talks about details of how they're doing the expedition.
alys

[orthodoxymoron]

I think you and I are on the same page. I am not a bible thumper either. I have heard that the bible is actually all written as a metaphor and once we read it as such there is much info to be taken out it.

:thumb_yello:

totally off topic but here is link to steven harfield. I really resonate with what he has to say.
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/shairfield2.htm


Consciousmedianetwork.com is a terrific source of interviews. Check out Ralph Ellis http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/rellis.htm the next time you are on this site. He has a very unique approach to the Bible. I think he is on to something(not on something)! However, this is heresy...punishable by stoning! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm2BsjACkuI&feature=related.

[micjer]

..

[micjer]

http://www.holloworbs.com/


Hollow Earth? Can The Earth Be Hollow?

Why wouldn't it be? Think about its round shape. It was centrifugal force that sculpted the Earth, and all the planets. That force was greater at the equators, so they all bulge at the equators. Going towards the poles, that force would have progressively diminished, such that the outline of the planets would have gradually inclined inwards until, at the poles, there would have been no curvature. The crust at the poles would be very thin because the centrifugal force at the poles would have been very little; the matter there would have slid down and concentrated itself at equator and reinforced the crust there.

As the outer crust cooled, any pent up force within the planet would have most likely expressed itself by blowing out through the axial (polar) points and would have formed openings. (Our planet has polar openings) This seems to be what is indicated by the huge, crater-like depressions at the tops of the planets which we can observe. The outer rim or collar of such openings could be a tell-tale sign of such an outburst from the interior which happened long, long ago during the formative stages.

What hollow earth proponents are saying is that the same force which sculpted the outer shape of the planets, that centrifugal force, would have had to have opened up a cavity within the planets, too. The force could not have had such a dramatic impact on the exterior shape and curve of the planets, with no cavity opening up at the core. Because the centrigfugal force was not evenly distributed, the interior cavity would have the shape of a football or rugby ball, with the points edging towards the poles.

The cavity of our Earth can't have a liquid interior. If it had, the tidal force exerted by the Moon would have induced the liquid interior to bust through any crust just as soon as such crust could have formed by
cooling.

And it can't be full of molten lava because the Earth has a magnetic field. The magnetic fields touch the poles and the Earth serves as a conductor to close the circuit. If the inner core of the Earth had the temperatures which the Molten Core Theory stipulates that it does, then any magnetic properties would be lost as heat destroys magnetism. And it doesn't take too much heat- this point is called the Curie Point. So the existence of the Earth's magnetic field indicates that the core is not molten nor hot.

[Fredkc]

Hollow earth ? :roll1:

Can't be!

Where would we put the dirt?

Fred

[micjer]

Believe it or not, this is the North Pole of Saturn. It is unclear how an unusual hexagonal cloud system that surrounds Saturn's north pole was created, keeps its shape, or how long it will last. Originally discovered during the Voyager flybys of Saturn in the 1980s, nobody has ever seen anything like it elsewhere in the Solar System. Although its infrared glow was visible previously to the Cassini spacecraft now orbiting Saturn, over the past year the mysterious hexagonal vortex became fully illuminated by sunlight for the first time during the Cassini's visit. Since then, Cassini has imaged the rotating hexagon in visible light enough times to create a time-lapse movie. The pole center was not well imaged and has been excluded.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/hexagon2_cassini.jpg


http://ciclops.org/view_event/123/Saturns_Hexagon_Reappears


Notice how they don't want to show the actual pole area. I wonder what they are hiding. :naughty:

[silverlightning]

I have heard several channellers talk about hollow earth. Some talk about beings, people, elfs, lemuria, antpeople etc. They are not referring to the three dimensional world of standard physics, they are searching for knowledge from a heightened conciousness. It's often related to mind, chakras.

I have wondered what David Wilcock is channelling, it's above my head. I would have loved to talk to him about this stuff. He has this theory that humans are deprived of knowledge we are suppose to have, and that forces are doing all they can for things to stay as they are. Not all channellers take the same position, some see it as mankind's point of departure and each individuals spiritual development will heighten our wisdom and knowledge.

[Jasper]

Watch this video clip, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7418041.stm.

The interesting bit occurs at around 50 seconds, why the grey circles?
I emailed the BBC for an answer, but of course didn't get a reply.

Bhuvan is the new Asian satellite service, http://www.bhuvan.nrsc.gov.in/.
Their service does not cover the entire globe, images such as the Poles are supplied to them by a third party. Note the lack of 'fogging' compared to the Google images.

If you watch this video clip and note the 'dot' where the light seems to emanate from, then compare it with the same area on the Bhuvan shot, note the 'mottled' affect which seems to be squared off.

http://www.nasa.gov/mov/133778main_FUV_640x480.mov

[Bilko]

I was rubbish in science hence my maybe naive question.
Does there need to be material between the two poles ( north and south ) for them to function as such?
I mean is it possible to have a hollow metallic globe that still has a definite magnetic north and south?

In recent years i always thought the earth would be more honeycombed than hollow. there may be vast expanses of air trapped during the planets formation. Hundreds of miles wide even. A central sun could be artificial ( the start of creation being thought ) suggesting that imagination is the limit of creation. it could be a crystal formation that harnesses light from above.

[micjer]

Watch this video clip, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7418041.stm.

The interesting bit occurs at around 50 seconds, why the grey circles?
I emailed the BBC for an answer, but of course didn't get a reply.

Bhuvan is the new Asian satellite service, http://www.bhuvan.nrsc.gov.in/.
Their service does not cover the entire globe, images such as the Poles are supplied to them by a third party. Note the lack of 'fogging' compared to the Google images.

If you watch this video clip and note the 'dot' where the light seems to emanate from, then compare it with the same area on the Bhuvan shot, note the 'mottled' affect which seems to be squared off.

http://www.nasa.gov/mov/133778main_FUV_640x480.mov


Great info.

I would say that we are looking down the same rabbit hole. Why the cover-up? I had seen the antarctic vid before. That light sure seems to be coming from within the earth.

:thumb_yello:

[micjer]

Here is an interesting vid that makes sense to me.

oJfBSc6e7QQ

One question I have with this theory is where did the water for the oceans come from. On the other hand ..... where did all of the water come from anyway?

[Jasper]

Great video. Perhaps the water came from the inner Earth through the poles.
It has been muted that the Earth was repositioned into the Goldilocks zone for the mammalian experiment to begin. This may have changed the energies entering the planet causing it to expand like a balloon.

Did we swap places with Mars, which has since contracted?

[Zeddo]

I think you and I are on the same page. I am not a bible thumper either. I have heard that the bible is actually all written as a metaphor and once we read it as such there is much info to be taken out it.

:thumb_yello:

totally off topic but here is link to steven harfield. I really resonate with what he has to say.
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/shairfield2.htm

Hi Micjer, I bought this book "A Metaphysical Interpretation of the Bible - Steven Hairfield" after watching that interview a few months back and found it to be of great value. Lots of food for thought.

Cheers

Z

[micjer]

Thanks Z,

I have been meaning to order that book , so thanks for reminding me about it. lol

M

[Jasper]

http://neithercorp.us/npress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/icecap2007-2008.jpg

Have a look at this image depicting sea ice around the N.Pole. Notice the lower percentage red area in the middle. Looks a bit circular to me.

[Boober]

Is there any books or reports on astral protectors going into the earth? to see if its hollow?

[micjer]

Well it looks like there is...

http://www.onelight.com/astral/astralmethod.htm

[Jasper]

Or is it a planet forming? Note the donut (doughnut) image. If you try and save the image you will find that it is titled '_46935630_hydrogen_dust_compound'


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8416263.stm

[Barron]

This is a good book to start with:
We Are Not Alone
Telos
The Call Goes Out from the Hollow Earth and the Underground cities by Dianne Robbins.

On pg 161 are further Books, Videos and internet links for further research...

[Jasper]

Is Saturn's moon Titan hollow, or is it light glinting off a puddle?

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/18dec_titanglint.htm?list1049613

[THE eXchanger]

hollow earth eXists
agartha is at 9th denity
the grand central sun & its library is at the core

[Jasper]

Here's some interesting data from the new Gravity sensing satellite.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/sci_nat_enl_1261609536/html/1.stm

Note the large blue (low gravity) blob at the north polar region. Seems to back up the thin ice area indicated in my earlier post. If you take the view that gravity is determined by the density of the earth beneath the surface object, then it makes perfect sense that a hole would show as a low gravity area.

The other point of interest on this diagram is that of the brownish lattice type lines. If anyone has any info on that then please let me know. Looks to me like they could indicate an electrical coil, Energy grid anyone?

[Jasper]

Sorry, forgot to put in the links on the last post.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8408957.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/sci_nat_enl_1261609536/html/1.stm

[KathyT]

Note the large blue (low gravity) blob at the north polar region. Seems to back up the thin ice area indicated in my earlier post.

I think you failed to prove your point. There is NOT a blue blob at 90N. For about 5 degrees on each end of the chart, it is solid yellow. I think they fail to show you what is in that solid yellow area. Or the chart is distorted.

[KathyT]

http://neithercorp.us/npress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/icecap2007-2008.jpg

Have a look at this image depicting sea ice around the N.Pole. Notice the lower percentage red area in the middle. Looks a bit circular to me.

Jasper, you're not clear in what you think the 'circular' means to you.

Look at the following. I've studied the University of Illinois's cryrospere photos quite a bit. They do NOT prove that there is a hole at the pole's whatsoever. What I think they DO help prove, is a Cover-Up of what really is at the poles. You don't see the circular image overlay cover up so much in the current years' pictures. But here is one going back to 1983, and I've place the yellow circle around the circular changed area to highlight what is there. They (NASA) has placed a large overlay/smear, roughly several hundred of miles across, over their infrared 'red' portion, directly at 90N.
Look too at the second one where I placed 1984 side by side with 1985. What are they hiding ? ? ?
http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Images/Univ-Illinois-6-5-83.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Images/Univ-Illinois-10-6-84.jpg

[TheRebel]

I do not know what to make out of this Hollow Earth theory, but i started believing that never rely on mainstream science for verification of any theory as i watch mainstream science every day fighting with its own contradictions and increasing the lists of anomalies. For hollow earth, it is well documented fact that Nazis funded expeditions in Tibet in Third Reich; and why Nazis were in Tibet and what they were doing; the mythical stories of Agartha/Shambala may be found in following sources, if you are interested in reading them (they may be found at www.scribd.com):

On Edward Bulwer-Lytton: Agharta, Shambhala, Vril and the Occult Roots of Nazi Power by Joseph George Caldwell

Allied Union, Thule Gesellschaft and the Vril Society by Wes Penre

The Coming Race by Edward Bulwer-Lytton

The Invisible Eagle by Alan Baker

and there are some interesting videos about this underground civilization, which seems to have the key to our future, especially in 2012 scenario....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ELtOYvMyKM&feature=related


I think our past may hold the key to our future; however we do have an critical eye to evaluate all the information available...

Thanks & Regards
The Rebel