any one willing to stay in the heat zone?

[NKA]

hey
i decided to put this in current event area
cuz current reaction of most people on this forum for upcoming storm is that they would like to leave to safe zone and get as many people out (by waking them up)
that seems to be the dominant plan for most for the upcoming events

now my interpretation to every thing is a little different...
i am not the type of person who would wake others... i am waiting for now
gathering as much information as i can
prepare with my tiny budget (i am university student... so u know my budget)

i dont plan to move... although i could... but i wont... i want to witness the event that is about to take place here and do what i can help... (it's wierd eh?) i can't really describe it, but i dont think i'll make it through alive really lol and i am some what satisfied with it.

in nut shell, i want to stay in this heat zone... thus i think i need to know more and somewhat more prepared... any advice or help will be nice


and i wanted to know if there is any one else who feels or thinks the same way...

[unlimited mind]

you will need the usual survival gear, and that needs to include a mask with a pathogen filter and something to catch & purify water. if everything unfolds the way many say it will, there is a great chance that the cities will be quite disease filled due to the resources (or lack there of) and will need to be quarantined, making the cities a prison.

i suppose i could try and understand your curiosity for being in the heat, but i assure you, it will be just as interesting anywhere you go outside of the city with plenty of opportunities to be of even greater service.

if you had to choose to grow crops that would feed 1000 people 30 miles out of town or to spend that same amount of time in a situation where you could possibly be fighting for your very survival...which would you choose?
:wub2:

[Ceilidh_Madigan@yahoo.com]

NKA, I understand your feeling. I can't say I share the desire to stay "In the heat", as living in Jersey is probably about as bad as it gets being between 3 major cities. However... I understand wanting to take this head on with heart high. To listen to Green's testimonies about population reduction throughout the northern hemisphere makes one feel like if you can't get to ecuador, might as well dance on the rooftop while it all goes up! Whatever it may be, I know we share the desire to be the privileged informed few who can save help others in a future that society by design does not wan them to forsee.

[Zelphael]

Some of us might be stuck here with little choice to go elsewhere. In that respect, we're going to be caught "in the heat" anyway.

Prepare survival gear as needed. Be prepared for anything and everything...

[SunRa]

i am not running to another country yet... (in usa)
I AM moving more and more rural as time draws near...
i too have this strange nagging feeling that there is something i am supposed to do HERE
i posted a little about it in a different thread

i hear ya
its all good

[NKA]

It seems for those us who will stay here, we need different plans, and for those who leave most of their critical action has to be done before the event starts, but those who will stay behind will have to take critical action after the event starts or 24 to 48 hours before the event starts.
May be I should make separate post for those who will stay behind or will be left behind, and perhaps I will.
But first I will write some here and see how it goes from here.

It seems for those who will be in northern hemisphere, we would need, firstly safe havens in northern hemisphere for survivors to gather, for it gives sense of goal and hope to live for and gives a direction to go, as you know “no wind favors a sailor with no directions”. Therefore may be we need to think of creating safe havens on northern hemisphere that is:
300m above of the sea level
Not near any volcano, earth quake zone or any where that could be heavily affected by polar shift.
Far away from any major cities (hidden if possible, which means not really approachable by land vehicles)
And has bases of all civilizations, water and good soil.
By the way this safe haven does not need to be a settlement, all we need is a location where all of the above or more conditions qualify.
Also knowing other safe havens near by may be a good idea incase the one near you has an issue or incase of any other reason of migration.


Next step should be creating small local communities to start rallying at some safe local point and start heading to the safe haven. Perhaps, rally at a local nuclear hide out to hide until 2 weeks after initial blast from a nuclear weapons.

These can be done here, and I suggest we get them done fast, if we plan to.
For safe havens I was thinking of national parks… mostly because, no one lives there and it’s probably the cleanest area around. However I think, it would be illegal to live there…

The rest is individual plan, like finding routes to the safe area, or escaping the quarantined area, so on.

any other suggestion?

[rustanddust]

I definitely disagree with the people who think that everything is just going to fall apart and dissolve into total chaos and violence--I think its smart to prepare and be on the lookout for it and to try to prevent conflict, but expecting everyone to just start threatening and killing each other is pretty farfetched and highly unlikely. in fact, I believe its the totally fearful and paranoid people with guns n' ammo who will be the main source of danger and violence, not the masses.

the main concern is to learn to WORK TOGETHER, find safe places, form self sustainable communities, and try to just work s*** out, as the wise people on this board are reiterating again and again.

[NKA]

it's better to prepare for the worst, and hope for the best. what i say or plan does not reflect on my belief necessarily.
so far this is all i believe, something is going to happen this year or early 2009, and i better expect the worst and hope for the best

[addalight]

NKA I understand it. I was doing a meditation last year to get in touch with an ancient past life, thinking that would be kind of cool. I found myself standing in a totally desolate area having survived some kind of disater. Most of my family and friends were dead and at that point I really didn't care if I survived. This is not what I expected from my meditation, but I believe it is something I need to remember this time. Building community is our survival.

Follow your own path. Be in alignment with your own purpose and things will fall into place.

On the practical side, Tom Brown has an urban survival book that has some good information. He is a somewhat controversial person, but I think the book has some value. I have other bits pieces of survival info that may or may not be helpful depending on what climate you live in. Taking a back packing class could give you some skills that are useful even in an urban area.

Blessings,
addalight

[Ellusion]

I don't plan on going anywhere. Albeit I don't really have the means too but regardless whatever happens I'll be here. I have the understanding that, what is to happen is to happen. And I don't fear death as I once did. FEAR has a really predominant hold on the majority of humanity as I see it. I don't agree either with an "giving up" attitude as well I just see how the world works in respect to how I myself live. I guess you can say I know things to happen for reasons and I don't "believe" in coincidence or randomization. If things begin to get restless which I'm sure they will be, I will be there for others trying to stand strong and hold up heads to see the light towards the end.


-Brandt

[NKA]

both of ellusion and addalight got what is kind of going through my head.
well kind of thought this through...
thought a little and made a generalization, it's only generalization based on prejudice and little observation i had.
there are some who spreads messages...purpose, to awake people
some who migrate to safer place to rebuild...purpose, to rebuild
now us (like, me and ellusion) what kind of category do we fall in?
we are more of reaction based people, since we have to wait for event to trigger the action part.

so i guess the question is what would be the general purpose of the people who's staying behind?

i think i know the answer (my answer), but i want to hear other's answers first.

[SynchrOMicity]

NKA, Dear brother, first follow your heart, your intuition will be the guide that leads you thru! Second prepare short term, one to two weeks. At a soul level there is a reason you choose this, ride it out! Maybe to help one person ??
Any one who thinks a financial collapse would not bring total chaos, needs only look at the present ike scenario, or katrina total chaos! Or go google Argentinas recent financial disaster(2001) to find out what it takes to survive. If the imbilicle cord to WAL- Mart is cut the natives will become restless, you can count on that. There are many scenarios that can play out, be prepared, people do terrible things now, that"s reality, if they get hungry watch out. My saying is, I'd rather be prepared, and not need it, than to need it and not be prepared!
Good Luck!

[lehomonuka]

Hi ya all,
I believe,through experience,I "will-fo-ly" learnernt,how to live "on-the-street" we can raise above WHATEVER happens!
Start by preparing ourselves for ALL the unWanted possibilitys.(dern my spillin suks) prepare by fasting 1 day,then 2 etc; only drinking water,see how long you can go, then eat VERY LITTLE(enough to stop the hunger rummbles),do it agin! find your favorite clothes and most comfortable walking shoes,and try "living" in them for a week or more (which includes working and sleeping in them 24/7)don't worry how they look OR( a shower should only be used to conserve water) smell,because they might be the the only threads you may have(for awhile)(ANY other threads are a Luxury) get 1 or 2 heavey blankets if possible,if you live in a warmer climate,a shower-curtain will keep you warm enough, if you fold yourself into it.
Start NOW, by keeping as many electirc stuff off line as you can live without, lights etc. In the coming winter time,sleep with ALL windows open
(Then you'll find out what you need to"Get By") until then,
at night, go outside in your yard or where-ever and "Learn"to get as comfortable as you can with just blanket(fold in half,sleep in middle) do this in the middle of ataum(spi) but start out w/NOTHING 'cept the clothes on you back,then!,
you'll see all of the other Luxurys that you may/or not need
Have you ever lost EVERYTHING, to a fire, earthquacke,flood,angry room-mate^I^, you hold yourself together and Start agin,FROM NO THING!
Swallow you pride and learn to eat from a trashcan!(old grateful dead song
says "one man gathers,what another man spills"!) Find yourself(s) in the back of supermarkets( I have personally seen them throw (and at other resturants), a TON of perfectly good food away(I & others had enough,for a week) Learn to eat the good stuff)(OH my,this Bread, lettus,potatoes etc..are a lil bit old,LET's TOSS;EM OUT!!!)( BTW I have quite a few tales to tell about "experinces" "dumpsterdivin"):lmfao: Above All else
LEARN how to keep& maintain a "low-profile" while learning how to become homeless DO NOT WAIT!! until the SHTF see what you might need to help
"OTHER'S" get thru/by We Can No Longer Depend on "THEM"

THIS IS HOW(on a practical level) WE bodily Ascend!!!! a genisis, so to speak

I have many other urban survivale techniques that you can use to "get "thru"
Love abd light to all leho