October 14, 2008, Galactic Federation of Light First Contact Announcement - A FAKE

[prem]

Why do people spread such a false news. Are they all completely out of their minds? There are people around the world who are constantly watching the skies. No one cannot come out of the blues. No spaceships are going to visit or no aliens are going to show up. Don't waste your time posting fake news regarding the October 14.

If you are asking me for evidence, please question yourself before replying this post.
Stop worrying about hoax calls. You blindly believe in something is going to come and show in the skies? And somewhere i saw it sizes around 2000 miles, but can be seen only in Alabama. Are you peoples completely out of this world? The size is so huge you can see from most of the place around the world. Its completely non-logic to think a thing like this.

You say that the Government is conducting experiments and do you think they will allow for and exhibition show like this?
What is the problem now for an exhibition like that? Its all hoax news. Find the source and question them instead of questioning this post. I have some logical portion of my brain working. If yours is also working then think. Else shut it down and go and sleep. Else go to Alabama using your valuable time. Remember, time cannot be earned again.

Think. Think like a human. Think

[storm4ce]

I do believe that there will not be any ETs showing up. For me there is no point in the revealation to the mass now. They are already guiding many on this planet. I find no meaning in this kind of contact. So definitely no to this mothership circling the cities of earth.

[Free-UFO-Videos]

YouTube ...

New Aliens UFOs Motherships!!! 14th Oct. Proof Evidence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOG8xoQtYt4




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[lightwalker]

From my perspective:

All Truth's are True..and you get to choose what is true for you.

And wouldn't it be just kind of a lot more interesting to have this experience then what we are dealing with on the planet? It doesn't matter to me if it happens or not in the physical universe...the anticipation is 99% of the excitement.

I think about it a lot.

lightwalker

[JPS]

I think it is comforting for people to believe that things such as this are going to happen. I have read various posts concerning a great new peace that will be ushered in the world and that our extra-dimensional brothers are going to rescue us from the impending turmoil. This line of thinking (however irrational it may be) is much more comforting than the very possible reality that we are just food (both energetic and physical), slave labor, and "spare parts" for a negative group of entities planning to create a master race and rule the few of us that actually survive in the 4th density - doesn't sound like a great peace to me unless you are the negative entities! This line of thinking also makes people feel it will all just work out and effectively halts their progress of gaining knowledge that they are here for in the first place.

[yettyn]

YouTube ...

New Aliens UFOs Motherships!!! 14th Oct. Proof Evidence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOG8xoQtYt4




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Yes I am sure the aliens would chose youtube to communicate with the human race... Internet is a fascinating realm of creative possibilites to explore and have fun with, so is the human mind.

[yettyn]

Why do people spread such a false news. Are they all completely out of their minds? There are people around the world who are constantly watching the skies. No one cannot come out of the blues. No spaceships are going to visit or no aliens are going to show up. Don't waste your time posting fake news regarding the October 14.

If you are asking me for evidence, please question yourself before replying this post.
Stop worrying about hoax calls. You blindly believe in something is going to come and show in the skies? And somewhere i saw it sizes around 2000 miles, but can be seen only in Alabama. Are you peoples completely out of this world? The size is so huge you can see from most of the place around the world. Its completely non-logic to think a thing like this.

You say that the Government is conducting experiments and do you think they will allow for and exhibition show like this?
What is the problem now for an exhibition like that? Its all hoax news. Find the source and question them instead of questioning this post. I have some logical portion of my brain working. If yours is also working then think. Else shut it down and go and sleep. Else go to Alabama using your valuable time. Remember, time cannot be earned again.

Think. Think like a human. Think

Well honestly, we will not know for sure until 14th, as a human that not has lost his mind I would say it's nothing strange at all IF they would or will show up, I am more a bit dubious about the point in time chosen though. Like it's ridiculous to think that we would be the only living beings in the universe, but sure if you are living in a box with mirror walls that trick you to think you are something else then you really are... If that's "think like a human" then I prefare to think like a lunatic.

This one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4G4mFvM0OY) is pretty good by the way, at least it seem like the aliens have a great taste for music

[viking]

In answer to Prems post....

Well I think you need to do your research..Knowone is spreading false news as such. These messages are from Channelers all over the world and alot of people are praying that this happens. We have been brainwashed for far too long and have been hoodwinked into this way of life by the evils of this planet for there greed and power. Perhaps the time has come for all to reveal our true origins and why we are here. Any information I get regarding this date I will post.

Hoax calls... why do you think they are hoax?? As to the size of the Craft...Hey off course you cannot comphrehend...it is beyond most peoples imagination..but thats only because your thoughts are limited as you have been shoehorned into this way of thinking..again by the evils of this world..just because you cannot imagine this it does not mean it cannot exist or will not happen.

Well if this really does happen I dont think the Governmnet will have much say or do!!! The Technology (Mr ET) they have is not on the same level as us. Imagine what we have achieved in the past 50 years. Well now imagine what they have achieved in a million!! We are children within the Cosmic Family and although we have been suppressed with all sorts of Technology we are still in our infancy. You need to think more out of the box. Your logical brain takes its path and works out what it understands and the rest it chucks out because you cannot expain it. Its the way your mind is set. Rest assured we are all changing and there is a hugh shift in conciousness and very soon our minds will open up.

We all seek the TRUTH

viking

[maya12-21-2012]

In answer to Prems post....

Well I think you need to do your research..Knowone is spreading false news as such. These messages are from Channelers all over the world and alot of people are praying that this happens. We have been brainwashed for far too long and have been hoodwinked into this way of life by the evils of this planet for there greed and power. Perhaps the time has come for all to reveal our true origins and why we are here. Any information I get regarding this date I will post.

Hoax calls... why do you think they are hoax?? As to the size of the Craft...Hey off course you cannot comphrehend...it is beyond most peoples imagination..but thats only because your thoughts are limited as you have been shoehorned into this way of thinking..again by the evils of this world..just because you cannot imagine this it does not mean it cannot exist or will not happen.

Well if this really does happen I dont think the Governmnet will have much say or do!!! The Technology (Mr ET) they have is not on the same level as us. Imagine what we have achieved in the past 50 years. Well now imagine what they have achieved in a million!! We are children within the Cosmic Family and although we have been suppressed with all sorts of Technology we are still in our infancy. You need to think more out of the box. Your logical brain takes its path and works out what it understands and the rest it chucks out because you cannot expain it. Its the way your mind is set. Rest assured we are all changing and there is a hugh shift in conciousness and very soon our minds will open up.

We all seek the TRUTH

viking

awesome post, my friend!

you hit the nail on the head in recommending to "think outside the box". We've been trapped inside the box for wayyyyyyyy too long. The view outside the box is one of peace and love, without fear and hatred.

Life rocks when you live outside the box!

[Uncle Fester]

Think. Think like a human. Think

I'm just curious. Why is it so important that everyone think like you? Why is it so important for you to be right about this?

Why is your way of thinking the right way of thinking?

Do you have more brain power and common sense than others, or just a very large ego?

After Oct 14 are you going to gloat that you are better than others?

What is your point? You bring absolutely no evidence to support your claim except for the way you think.

[maya12-21-2012]

The October 14th Galactic Federation rumor is less harmful than being manipulated by the main stream media, who tells us which puppet we should elect for president.

In a world of negativity, the rumor gives people hope for a new beginning. I hope it happens but if doesn't, there's no harm. That'd be like criticizing children for believing in the Easter Bunny or Santa.

[Altered Species]

In answer to Prems post....

Well I think you need to do your research..Knowone is spreading false news as such. These messages are from Channelers all over the world and alot of people are praying that this happens. We have been brainwashed for far too long and have been hoodwinked into this way of life by the evils of this planet for there greed and power. Perhaps the time has come for all to reveal our true origins and why we are here. Any information I get regarding this date I will post.

I very respectfully disagree agree with you. Channeling is very dangerous and shouldn't even be practiced, maybe only by a selected few. When you say channelers all over the world, that strikes me as false right away. Like I said, there is maybe only a handful of channelers if that, that know what they're communicating with. When you channel you have no idea of what you are communicating with. It could be good and it could be bad, usually a combination of both. Trying to discern real information from this procees is practically if not totally impossible.

I have had my experiences dealing with the so called spirits and I can honestly tell you no human has a way of dealing with it or making sense of it unless you are very experienced, live a certain lifestyle and more importantly of a certian type. Even if you are all of the above you will recieve mixed messages. When you channel into the spirit world there is no filtering process of what you channel. Once you open yourself up to this you get the good and the bad.

[Zelphael]

I agree, this stuff reeks of nonsense. I'm sorry but it's just people trying to get attention. Galactic Federation of Light? Sounds like something Hubbard would have made up.

[viking]

I very respectfully disagree agree with you. Channeling is very dangerous and shouldn't even be practiced, maybe only by a selected few. When you say channelers all over the world, that strikes me as false right away. Like I said, there is maybe only a handful of channelers if that, that know what they're communicating with. When you channel you have no idea of what you are communicating with. It could be good and it could be bad, usually a combination of both. Trying to discern real information from this procees is practically if not totally impossible.

I have had my experiences dealing with the so called spirits and I can honestly tell you no human has a way of dealing with it or making sense of it unless you are very experienced, live a certain lifestyle and more importantly of a certian type. Even if you are all of the above you will recieve mixed messages. When you channel into the spirit world there is no filtering process of what you channel. Once you open yourself up to this you get the good and the bad.

Not sure what you are getting at!!! As long as you are channeling with the right beings then what is wrong with that... Not sure there is another way of recieving information from other Beings is there??

viking

[Jenn]

Well I think it is interesting and possible, may or may not happen.
I am just going to take that day to send positive love vibrations out to the universe. I am not in a position to judge people myself, or to believe or not to believe. I am not a channeler but have received a message of a similar sort from very human looking Star People.
I was told disclosure is very soon, to be prepared to feel sane again.
I wasn't told when, just that it was soon. This was quite a few months ago.
So I do think its possible, but I will use that day to meditate and have my own experience.
If it doesn't happen, at least I will have had my own personal connection and time out to ponder peaceful loving contact.

PEACE! ~Jenn

P.S. I try to avoid thinking human to much these days, I know I am more then that and I like to explore and experiment!

[yettyn]

Not sure what you are getting at!!! As long as you are channeling with the right beings then what is wrong with that... Not sure there is another way of recieving information from other Beings is there??

viking

Well how do you know it's the "right" beings and that they are the ones they say they are? As AS pointed out channeling is no child's play no matter if its celestial beings or from "the other side". If you make some research back in time, at least 20 years you will find that most medium or "channelers" got quite silent and/or "disappears" from public after some time, why? Try this, run your MC on jet fuel and you will see what happens after a while, you will simply blow the pipes.

[Phoenix]

Well how do you know it's the "right" beings and that they are the ones they say they are? As AS pointed out channeling is no child's play no matter if its celestial beings or from "the other side". If you make some research back in time, at least 20 years you will find that most medium or "channelers" got quite silent and/or "disappears" from public after some time, why? Try this, run your MC on jet fuel and you will see what happens after a while, you will simply blow the pipes.

Agreed. There is no way of knowing who or what the right beings are. How do you discern?

And when all the so called channeled info comes to nothing (eg October 14th) will those prophets accept their lack of credibility and disappear in embarrassment?

I hope so.

[viking]

Well how do you know it's the "right" beings and that they are the ones they say they are? As AS pointed out channeling is no child's play no matter if its celestial beings or from "the other side". If you make some research back in time, at least 20 years you will find that most medium or "channelers" got quite silent and/or "disappears" from public after some time, why? Try this, run your MC on jet fuel and you will see what happens after a while, you will simply blow the pipes.


Well perhaps you need to trust your instincts... And my instincts tell me we have been lied to long enough and that there is more to life than what is currently being presented. So any type of information thats leads to disclosure I will embrace with positive energy.

What has jet fuel got to do with this anyway!?

viking

[viking]

Agreed. There is no way of knowing who or what the right beings are. How do you discern?

And when all the so called channeled info comes to nothing (eg October 14th) will those prophets accept their lack of credibility and disappear in embarrassment?

I hope so.

What do you mean by right beings?? Do you think that thay have some other motive? if these messages are for real??

Lets get one thing straight ok ..... If these messages are of somewhat evil intent what are they possibly planning??? If they wanted to do us harm they would have blown us up along time ago!!! Simple as that ....

viking

[Antaletriangle]

I think it's a coincidence that on oct. 14th there's a full moon,lasting for 3 days and has a diameter of over 2,000 miles!!Think abite it folks!I hope something benevolent and awe inspiring occurs but ockham's razor?:yikes:

[shepherd]

We are all creating the reality around us with our thoughts. I for one have been keeping this date in my mind and will continue to do so.

Regardless of whether we "perceive" a ship on the 14th or not I think it's a symbol of something grander.. an awakening of some kind. Maybe those of us who desire this enough will manifest it. =)

[Vandalis]

I first head of this not long back. i dint really knwo what it was all about but i felt inside that it wasn't the truth.

[bodzoyfa]

What do you mean by right beings?? Do you think that thay have some other motive? if these messages are for real??

Lets get one thing straight ok ..... If these messages are of somewhat evil intent what are they possibly planning??? If they wanted to do us harm they would have blown us up along time ago!!! Simple as that ....

viking


Respectfully, I dont think you are giving enough thought to the magnitude of what you are talking about/dealing with here. When you say "...they would have blown us up along time ago", we can assume these being dont operate in a 3 dimensional world since they have to be channeled, so I don't follow the logic in bomb aspect of it all. It would also seem that they would be more interested, and have more to gain, in attacking the parts of us that do exist in their dimension, i.e. mind, soul, spirit. Keeping our emotions at bay would be enough of a reason to provide disinformation through channeling, because we are at our best and most creative when we have passion coupled with action. The most dangerous prison is not one you can see and put your hands on, its the one in which you think you are free.

[Kahunamahalo]

Man, this thread is rich. I've not laughed this hard in a long time. Thanks all.

[OceanWinds]

Who knows exactly how the extra terrestras will show up? And what they will do? Who is to decide what is credible and what isnt?

All opinion is vanity... I see some people trying to push each others buttons, and others who are letting their buttons be pushed. I personally like to have fun... chill out and ride the wave.

And instead of argueing about whether the aliens show up... which is useless. Lets talk about what we could do if they actually do show up. And what it might be like...

If they show up, I hope they let me take a saucer for a spin around the cosmos...

[viking]

Just got this latest from Blossom Goodchild ... You never know !!!

Hello everyone,

Thank you all so much for your support and encouragement. This journey is turning out to be a bit of a roller coaster ride for me! In general there is an incredibly positive vibe and I am completely humbled by everyone’s generosity of words.

As you are probably aware I am updating my channellings when I can and adding appropriate snippets of letters and information to my website.

I can no longer keep up with the number of youtubes that carry my name, but I thank everyone who chooses to spread the word in this fashion.

For those who haven’t heard about the ‘snow cone’ sky phenomena check this link http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=18945 .

I was pretty knocked out by that one. See channelling no 2. on Federation Of Light page.

Two news items of note for next week.

On Friday Sept 19th I shall be talking on an hour long interview with Mike Quincey on an internet Radio programme called "Connecting the Light". Australia 7am (Sat 20th) ... PST 2pm Friday 19th ... GST 10pm Fri 19th. To listen live to BBS Internet Radio - go to http://www.bbsradio.co. In the left hand column - Right Click on "HOW TO LISTEN" and Click "Open" Next Right Click on the Station button at the very top far left " STATION 1 -LIVE TALK RADIO" and Click "OPEN LINK" This will now give program details under "NOW AIRING ON BBS STATION 1" and Click on "CLICK TO LISTEN" button.

LIVE WEBINAR in conjunction with SPIRITUAL NEW AGE GUIDE

As the days draw nearer to October 14th much excitement is brewing. In recent channellings, ‘The Federation Of Light’ have expressed their concern over the amount of people who have not had the opportunity to ‘hear’ their message. In order to get the message out to as many as possible, I have been invited to do a LIVE webinar with the Spiritual New Age Guide, where I will be able to share with you my thoughts and enjoy having the opportunity to answer any questions you may have.

As I am joining forces with Spiritual New Age Guide on this, there will be a charge of $15 as there are costs to cover and bills to pay!!! The 90 minute webinar will take place on Wednesday September 17th. For more information on this event please go to:: http://www.spiritualnewageguide.com/index.html?page=SSwebinar.html

I look forward to connecting with you all then.

It appears from my Blog that some have a problem with the fact that there is an exchange of energy for this event. Perhaps folk assume that I am already so enlightened that I can live on fresh air!!!!! TEE HEE … would be cool though!

There are obviously plenty of souls still out there that have no idea of what is to take place. Are you brave enough to get the word out there in anyway you can?

Swords of Light to the skies.

Every single LOVING thought of welcome to our friends from elsewhere assists them in their cause.

Let us BE BOLD and show them we care about them as much as they care about us.

Truly, my sincere thanks to everyone. I weep at the drop of a hat, for I am able to ‘feel’ the vibes of LOVE that I am being sent.

WE CAN BRING ABOUT THIS CHANGE! THE CHANGE WE CAME ON THIS PLANET TO ASSIST IN. LETS DO IT CHAPS!!!!
Love Light Laughter & Golden Rays
Bloss

www.blossomgoodchild.com

[swaan]

Hi, has this been posted yet?


DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?
http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/

I don't know whether they relate directly, but its very interesting and intuitive.
Good or bad, I voted YES. I am ready.

[Antaletriangle]

Yeah it's already been posted-no worries though-it's great that you get involved.

[Mark]

We'll all know come the 14th. If we do get a spin in the ship, will we need to take a packed lunch?...

[viking]

Hi, has this been posted yet?


DO YOU WISH THAT WE SHOW UP ?
http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/

I don't know whether they relate directly, but its very interesting and intuitive.
Good or bad, I voted YES. I am ready.

Me too .... viking

[DoctorTony]

We'll all know come the 14th. If we do get a spin in the ship, will we need to take a packed lunch?...

If we do decide to take a packed lunch.....will it survive the trip? :mfr_lol:

[Mark]

I like toast....

[arcora]

People have been making these predictions for years. Most is wishful thinking.

However, I do think there is a likelihood that a UFO will appear to all in our lifetimes.

The interesting thing about this message is that it gives an exact date. Thus, no discernment is necessary. Either it happens or it doesn't.

Why so much debate about if she is right or wrong? In time we will have Truth.

As for channeling in general...I am always skeptical. There may be some prophets. However, I believe most channelers are either tapping into their subconcious knowledge and desires - or outright frauds.

This particular message is a non-issue because it will be proven to be true or false at a specific time. Just wait and see.

[Antaletriangle]

Just an idea-i've posted this response before on other threads but had no return.On oct. 14th there is a full moon which lasts for 3,24 hour periods,it is just over 2,000 miles in diameter.Well, in some trains of thought the moon is regarded as an ancient alien ship (reptilians used hollowed out asteroids to covertly move into star sytems by accounts) could this not be the case-if it is a wind up then they wouldn't be lying because everything stated is true-the size,the duration,date and no aircraft could penetrate the defences as it's the moon!Just a thought to take people off the same running path.I hope there is a confederaton star ship that uncloaks onthat day-we'll see,i know who i am whether or not it happens.Great times ahead anyhow.

[Theresa]

yes, this IS funny!!:lol3:

This was posted about channeling:

"I very respectfully disagree agree with you. Channeling is very dangerous and shouldn't even be practiced, maybe only by a selected few. When you say channelers all over the world, that strikes me as false right away. Like I said, there is maybe only a handful of channelers if that, that know what they're communicating with. When you channel you have no idea of what you are communicating with. It could be good and it could be bad, usually a combination of both. Trying to discern real information from this procees is practically if not totally impossible.

I have had my experiences dealing with the so called spirits and I can honestly tell you no human has a way of dealing with it or making sense of it unless you are very experienced, live a certain lifestyle and more importantly of a certian type. Even if you are all of the above you will recieve mixed messages. When you channel into the spirit world there is no filtering process of what you channel. Once you open yourself up to this you get the good and the bad."

May I share? I have been channeling for about 9 years now, what I"ve come to know as Jesus~Holy Spirit. At first I was reluctant to channel because I was afraid I wouldn't be able to discern "good" from "bad" spirits. But spirit was intentional, and I eventually surrendered in service as I was being called.

That was just the beginning. What followed was many years of developing MYSELF as the channel, to raise MY vibration, to improve my consciousness and become RESPONSIBLE as a being-read spiritually mature. As "I" grew, the depth of the info coming through me grew.

In other words, I've come to see that what someone channels has EVERYTHING to do with where they are AS A BEING in their own evolution. If they are channeling higher truth, they are aligned with higher truth at the soul level. If not, then they are more ego aligned. It's pretty simple. There is probably a physics equation "out there" in the ethers to explain it.

I've come to be able to discern, through the vibration of what I read, or hear or see, or what comes through me, whether it's aligned with higher truth or not. You will too-every one will, the more they develop themselves spiritually-the foundation of which is absolute self responsibility. That seems to be the "maturation index", and it's an marker that's in complete equanimity.

This ET thing is a little difficult to discern, but it's resonating at a certain level-tune into that and see how it fits because our reality is whatever we say it is, right?

[viking]

Thanks Theresa I'm glad someones on the same wavelength as me !!


:thumb_yello:


yes, this IS funny!!:lol3:

This was posted about channeling:

"I very respectfully disagree agree with you. Channeling is very dangerous and shouldn't even be practiced, maybe only by a selected few. When you say channelers all over the world, that strikes me as false right away. Like I said, there is maybe only a handful of channelers if that, that know what they're communicating with. When you channel you have no idea of what you are communicating with. It could be good and it could be bad, usually a combination of both. Trying to discern real information from this procees is practically if not totally impossible.

I have had my experiences dealing with the so called spirits and I can honestly tell you no human has a way of dealing with it or making sense of it unless you are very experienced, live a certain lifestyle and more importantly of a certian type. Even if you are all of the above you will recieve mixed messages. When you channel into the spirit world there is no filtering process of what you channel. Once you open yourself up to this you get the good and the bad."

May I share? I have been channeling for about 9 years now, what I"ve come to know as Jesus~Holy Spirit. At first I was reluctant to channel because I was afraid I wouldn't be able to discern "good" from "bad" spirits. But spirit was intentional, and I eventually surrendered in service as I was being called.

That was just the beginning. What followed was many years of developing MYSELF as the channel, to raise MY vibration, to improve my consciousness and become RESPONSIBLE as a being-read spiritually mature. As "I" grew, the depth of the info coming through me grew.

In other words, I've come to see that what someone channels has EVERYTHING to do with where they are AS A BEING in their own evolution. If they are channeling higher truth, they are aligned with higher truth at the soul level. If not, then they are more ego aligned. It's pretty simple. There is probably a physics equation "out there" in the ethers to explain it.

I've come to be able to discern, through the vibration of what I read, or hear or see, or what comes through me, whether it's aligned with higher truth or not. You will too-every one will, the more they develop themselves spiritually-the foundation of which is absolute self responsibility. That seems to be the "maturation index", and it's an marker that's in complete equanimity.

This ET thing is a little difficult to discern, but it's resonating at a certain level-tune into that and see how it fits because our reality is whatever we say it is, right?

[Mark]

regarding channelling: Channelling spirits is one thing, channelling 'ET's' just might be something different all together and that might mean that the harm is not present at all - if all this is correct and the et's have channelled mesages, then I'm sure they would not put the channeller in the way of harm if they come in love and peace.

If the Great Mother, the Moon, and yes, it is an artifical object, then if it were to move it would play havock with the tides if it does trully effect them. Awakening myself to this 'new world' were almost everything I used to take for granted as being true, I really don't know what to believe about life any more - this is not a bad thing - I know who I love and what I love, but it does mean that I look at things so differently now - truth must be inner truth - the truth I beleive.

I had some work published by the BBC a few years ago - it was in a book called - The Book of the Future - it was an idea started by Dougles Addams and the idea for the book was - if enough people believed in the same thing - the same future - then becasue of that it would come to pass - in a way we have to believe that a ship will appear on the 14th Oct 2008 for it to appear. The power of thought is the greatest power in the universe and I beleive this to be a 'truth' - we have to want things to happen in order for them to happen no matter how outlandish they may first appear. We must have faith, good thoughts, love and belief for the 14th Oct 2008 to make this so.

[Pithiny]

I would rather live in the Light of Hope, then in the Darkness of Denial ...where I would be tempted to tell other people what to believe, or not believe.

Why do you feel it is necessary to take peoples Hope and flush it down your toilet? Why is it important to you that others align with Your Truth?

You have a logical opinion, backed up by common sense. I am happy for you, but please don't question the sanity of others that want to believe.

[Mark]

I think you get me all wrong here totally - that is what I'm trying to say - it all comes down to belief, trust and love...not flushing anything down the loo - or just maybe the lies...

[LOCOAZ2008]

Disculpen amigos,

pero se ve comico como muchos de ustedes niegan lo que casi seguro que pase.
No sera el 14 de ooctubre, sera despues, pero de que el primer contacto se realizara es obio que si.
Saben por que si se llevara a cabo?,

es simple si no son extratarrestres, sera el gobierno americano aprovechando esta noticia para asi poder dar el golpe final,

acaso no han leido todos los reportes que personas en projeect camelot vienen dando, piensen un poco, analisen bien y saque sus conclusiones.

Es mejor esperar el dia a estar escribiendo.... No va ha pasar, quienes son los tontos que divulgan eso...una nave de 2000 millas no puede existir....

Quien sabe los que piensan y escriben eso podrian ser personas que quieren como siempre sembrar la desinformacion...

Ok si pasa, ya veremos las consecuencias.... Y si no pasa no quiere decir que estamos bien, el mundo esta patas arriba y cada dia estamos peor...

Saludos

[Pithiny]

Another thought for the original Poster here (Sorry Mark!),

Everyone here knows this type of event has been promised before and has not come to pass. We WANT to believe. It has nothing to do with logic or common sense. I appreciate your stance and I see the validity of your words - however it's kinda like telling a kid there is no Santa---on Christmas Eve.

On Christmas Eve, Apollo 8 arrived at the Moon and made a successful burn which put them in orbit around the Moon. That evening, they broadcast a very moving message back to those of us back on Earth.

On Christmas Day it was time to make the all important burn that would place them on a trajectory that would return them home--to Earth. The burn would take place on the far side of the moon, so the people on Earth would not know if the burn was successful until they heard Jim Lovell's voice say "Please be advised there is a Santa Claus!"

Splashdown occurred on the morning of December 27, 1968.
http://www.collecting-the-space-race.com/apollo-8.html

I wonder what the crew of Apollo 8 saw on the dark side of the Moon, because hey, I doubt it was a man in a red suit with a white beard.

http://community-2.webtv.net/Taimm/FLYINGREINDEERSNACK/scrapbookFiles/importD11.gif

[Mark]

oh, I do believe, totally - I really want this event to happen - it's good if we all believe it will happen though - no harm in that...

[viking]

I would rather live in the Light of Hope, then in the Darkness of Denial ...where I would be tempted to tell other people what to believe, or not believe.

Why do you feel it is necessary to take peoples Hope and flush it down your toilet? Why is it important to you that others align with Your Truth?

You have a logical opinion, backed up by common sense. I am happy for you, but please don't question the sanity of others that want to believe.


I think you are getting the wrong end of the stick Pithiny...

No one is forcing you to believe... you are a free mind..you can choose to believe or not,, or want or not ... it is not a problem if you choose not to accept as long as the information is getting to as many as possible....

I criticize no one ... people can choose the own path in life !!

viking

[Rocky_Shorz]

regarding channelling: Channelling spirits is one thing, channelling 'ET's' just might be something different all together


There is a Huge differnece between channeling with Spirits, and telepathically talking with the living whether they are ETs or not...

opening up to Spirits can be very dangerous, I do it but am shielded while it is going on...

Once people have opened up, Spirits can step into them at any time, good or bad... Whether they are awake or dreaming...


Excorcisms still go on today, channeling is the fastest way to start needing one...

[DoctorTony]

The October 14th Galactic Federation rumor is less harmful than being manipulated by the main stream media, who tells us which puppet we should elect for president.

In a world of negativity, the rumor gives people hope for a new beginning. I hope it happens but if doesn't, there's no harm. That'd be like criticizing children for believing in the Easter Bunny or Santa.


WELL SPOKEN! We are constantly being told what to do (bow, sit, kneel, stand, fear, terror, What is Britney Spears doing now?, war, Al-Queida (sp?), etc.). I'm personally tired of ALL sorts of authoritarian commands. I've always been a little "outside the box." That is why I'm a chiropractor. We are constantly being told, by the insurance companies, that our patients' treatment is not medically necessary. Pharmaceutics, as well, constantly giving you a dead end solution to a human problem. Give me hopeful hoaxes anyday! I thought all we needed was hope the size of a mustard seed anyway. Seize the day.....but the best things will come to those who wait. How about sitting back and waiting for the inevitable ascension while kicking back on a leather sofa made from a slaughtered cow while watching hi def television reality TV shows with a big juicy raw steak from the same dead cow.....jk
Peace:trumpet:

[Zelphael]

I don't understand why people accept channelled information so easily. Anyone can channel anything, real or fraudulent. And when it is real, you don't know the source is trustworthy.

[Pithiny]

I agree! I trust this channeler: http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattstory.htm
Messages are here: http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm

I believe a Mother could recognize her son.

[Mark]

I trust the channellers' also...

[giaoue]

I wish Billy Meier had the internet & was a junior member. He's probably already been on this Federation of Light ship & taken a couple spins in the cosmos with Sananda, Enoch, & Thoth while jumping to ludicrous speed as it passes thru the orbit of Planet X to cause a misguided trajectory by its massive wave of inertia which will direct Nibiru to collide with Jupiter to end 2 things: 1)12,960 year elliptical orbit bringing disaster & frequent extinction, 2)the demise of the planned project to terraform Europa (mooncicle) by nuking Jupiter in order to play god & create a mini-fusion star, & start 1 thing: a collective thought-provoked request for this collision to not create the end result of a gigantic gaseous planet smashing into a brown dwarf star, which, hypothetically would be the most enormous particle collider experiment (ie big bang) to manifest in this neck of the cosmos or maybe just a mundane hypernova. Who knows? Its all a cool hypothetical scenario with true events involved in a doom & gloom outcome which is what some of this fake 1st contact thread is discussing. I know all is self & if some aliens have a sinister agenda then they should also understand the 2nd Universal Law- Law of Attraction. The only way to get around Karma is to get rid of ego & to get rid of ego you have to understand & show thru actions that we are all one & like Jesus said: Love your neighbor as your-SELF! (Something Everything Loves Forever) :thumb_yello:

[Mark]

Mr Billy Meier might just get senior membership. I'd like to know the take of George Green - who was asked to to flee the States yet - that of David Wilcox and the others that have appeared on the Project Camelot interviews, but that might just be a lot of phone calls but it's possible.

It's times like this that I wish I have a really big telescope and the 'power-that-be - soon to get the sack - would stop this flipping chemtrals and let me see the stars for once, because there is so much going on up there that we just might be able to see if these clouds would disipate.

Love, peace and good times to all...

[Sanat]

In addition to discernment I use Dr. David R. Hawkins (http://consciousnessproject.org/bio.asp) method of muscle calibration (http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=15). I have great experience using this method for some years now. His famous "Map of Consciousness" (http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=14) is from 1-1000. Anything below 200 is considered without integrity/false.

The 14. October event calibrates as true. In fact it calibrates above 540 which is the level of Uncondtitional Love. There is a 99.9% probability that it will go down on that day as planned. Anyone familiar with Bashar knows that probabilities are only a sensing of how things seem at the time of the calibration. That is why I will continue to calibrate the probability for this event occuring on the planned date untill we reach that date. I will post here if anything changes, allthough we will probably hear it from other source first...

Here is a list of channelers that do have integrity:

Sheldon Nidles updates (http://www.paoweb.com/updates.htm): Calibrates in general above 500.

Matthews Messages (http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm): Calibrates in the mid 400s.

Mike Quinsey channeled messages (http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm): Calibrates in general above 500.

It's worth mentioning that the channeled messages calibrates significantly higher than the channeler him/herself. The ET's will not learn our lessons for us. But this is simply a demonstration and a huge wake up call for the sleeping masses. It's a sign that things are about to take a major turn. After this it will be much harder to go back to sleep again for people. Those that don't know will finally start to turn to those that do. An event of that magnitude cannot be ignored very easily.

[viking]

:shocked: :biggrin2: WOW .. :yikes: fingers crossed ...

viking

[scatman84]

Well First of all......Let all of us remember that ALL OF THESE FORUMS are necessarily Positive.....

Hey Prem, if you think all of others are just getting swayed by believing this coming of ETs......then so be it.......

Do you have anything Positive to say instead ?

Please remember the Objective of this forum - HOPE, POSITIVITY, NETWORKING, COHESIVENESS, STRATEGY, SURVIVAL !!!

Peace !

[Sanat]

Negativity and socalled "skepticism" is often a sign that someone is repressing their hopes in order to not be disappointed like they have been many times in the past. It is understandable... However, discernment takes a calm and neutral mind. What feels right? What resonnates with your highest Joy?

Your trust in people should never be diminished just because there are charlatans out there. I know my trust will never be broken even if I "get fooled" a hundred times. This is what is meant by "turning the other cheek". It is not that you should not use discernment and learn from things, but your heart and trust should never close up based on past events. Most of the "negative/skeptical" people use past experience as an "argument". This is not valid since everything is fresh and new always. Better to keep an open mind always and be happy whether it happens or not...:trumpet:

[Mark]

Possivity and nagativity are both learning and by default makes everything possitive...

[SynchrOMicity]

Well,Well, Kahuna mahalo, Glad ur geting a laugh! A merry heart doth good like medicine! Many are saying it is so including Crist Michael, sheldon Niddle, please excuse spelling! And many sources includind the lady from Australia. I can say one thing ,they are all willing to put there butts on the LINE! Reguardless, if our space bro's show or not, something better happen to WAKE UP THE SLEEPING MASSES soon! Just LOOK around at UR world it wil not continue like this. Wan't more WAR? Wan't more of the same, if not CHANGE YOUR MIND! I 4 1 would say about TIME ! Sooner than later you will have to wake up to a larger pitcure. Sooner the better! Enjoy the RIDE!

[whitecrow]

Why do people spread such a false news. Are they all completely out of their minds? There are people around the world who are constantly watching the skies. No one cannot come out of the blues. No spaceships are going to visit...

I pretty much think you're right. But as the owner of a propped-open mind I have to say, I'd love to be a fly on your wall the day they do show up!

Hey, it could happen.

But I'm with you. I know there are spaceships out there because I've seen 'em. I had a very weird experience out in the desert about 35 years ago that involved a very bright light, something the person with me never would discuss. I don't actually remember much about it. I've also taken daylight photos of flying craft of some sort - so yes, there's something to the stories. But I think something else is going on.

Poverty is taking hold, folks - not just economic but spiritual. Those who are and who wish to be lightworkers, have our hands full trying to keep the world from growing dark. People need answers, of the kind they've traditionally gotten from their priests and prophets. But the prophets are never listened to in their own time, and the priests are all corrupt...what to do? This isn't a new question, but all of a sudden in our own time any fool can look at the world and see that every major religion has gone seriously far toward the dark side. The only people still looking there for answers are the stupid, the sleeping and those lost in serious denial. Everyone else in those organizations is corrupt. Well, almost everyone. The point is that people are looking for spiritual connections and meaning, and they aren't getting it in the traditional places. So I don't find it surprising that the myth should arise of a mysterious, invisible group of otherworldly beings who love us and won't let us destroy ourselves.

But I think still more is going on. It's not coincidence that talk of Revelations and Armageddon, the end of the Mayan Calendar, the shift from Pisces to Aquarius, the blue kachina, the red heifer, and dozens of other looked-for signs and prophecies are all seemingly converging in our time. A couple of 'em, sure. Coincidence, I do believe in it. But all these threads of reality converging from all these directions at once? No, something is happening, and it originates outside our ordinary sphere of reference. So even though some of what I hear and read smacks of lunacy within my paradigm, I take it all in and I keep my mind open.

That spaceccraft just could be there, fixin' to deactivate its cloaking devices next month. I'm not holding my breath. Seems like I read somewhere that it'll only happen if enough people sincerely want it to happen, or something like that. Well, I am all about intent, and I fully believe that by holding a good intent together we can change the world. But I also think the halls in hell are probably decorated with wishes. What matters is what we do and the intent we hold in doing it, far more than the name of the savior we wait for.

[Ashatav]

Yeah, a fake I think.

Dr. Deagle syas in his program something really usefull for this thread. (Nutrimedical Report Show listen it live 3-6 pm easter hour, or in this link every time you want: http://www.gcnlive.com/Programs/Nutrimedical/On_Demand.html)

He says in his program that the majority of the contactees are scamed by non positive interdimensional spiritual beings because from the "other side" didn't comunicate with us because we are in quarenteen.

This include the Ascended masters, the alien abductions, individual contactees, etc. He says, "they are playing with fire doing that".

so, tink twice.

Cheers! Thinkl Positive twice! hohoho

[JohnWdoe]

They are building people up to break them down, if they really wanted to set the entire UFO community/space religions all they would have to do is do another Pheonix Lights Incident which i might add was OURS.

Im not saying they are OURS to disprove your information but rather am telling you how it is.

Does anyone else besides me think MAJESTIC and its fake lore is all behind this??

The Illuminati are "esoteric mind control" well the Space cults are "modern mind control, i feel for some people but realize it is nothing to do with me and these people need to learn that UFOS aint coming to save them anytime soon.

Why do i never hear any of the UFO buffs talk about the Hollow Earth? seems logical to guess they come from the earth and have always been here. Throw Roswell out the back door - we know that was a Nazi disc and not an EBE.

October 14th will be another day and funnily if the "powers that be" decided to fly some ships the UFO cults would be so crazed about it they would lash out at anyone who said otherwise - a sad story when someone lashes for his reality when one offers its vaccine.

[Mark]

I really wish I had some tissues to wipe the tears from my eyes. I've just read quite a few of the messages form the Federation of Light and feel warm, loved and ready - though I've always felt warm, loved and ready, knowing that something is about to happen.

My girlfriend is a seer of sorts and she told me only yesterday that we were going to go on another trip though neither of us have that sort of money at the moment to pay for such a thing. Last year was fun - a trip to New York for my 44th birthday - bless her - this trip she refers to just might be a lot further, mighten it?

This all makes so much sense to me - the 14th Oct first contact.

I died at the age of 15 after being beaten up. I died on the operating table and saw the bright tunnel of lights, etc, but was told that my time was not yet and I went back to my body. For years and years - to now, I've wonder why I was sent back as my life has not been an easy one. I'm very spiritual for a Virgo male and this was a result of the troubles in my early life - knowing that 'this' life is not all there is and that has driven my purpose - even though I still do not know why I'm here other then to learn knowledge for the soul - the light.

I'm an artist - I write and draw and for years, even when I've tried other experiences, I've always came back to writing and drawing - this, I believe, is my path - creating stuff.

I look forward to meeting others like me from different worlds and dimensions - you might say that it is a long time coming, but really it was only yesterday because what is time really?

Thanks for posting the links to the convastaions with the Fed of light - I've stopped crying now - though a good cry is great at times and for the right reason. I look forward to meeting you all when it comes to pass.

Love, peace - and forgive me - bananas...XX...

MarkXX...

<magic>

[Rocky_Shorz]

In one of the articles on Camelot, it speaks of a system the government uses that send out telepathic messages, which are picked up and spread by many as "truths".

Its only purpose is to discredit those who hear and spread the word.

I've been to the council meetings and they don't speak this way, no one looks like the image that was sent.

are UFOs real? darn tootin

but I wouldn't be packing my bags and getting ready to hop on a spaceship quite yet.

are they here and ready to step in to stop WWIII - yep

are they anyone we should fear - nope

Will we see them before 2012... definitely

I just don't want to see all of you that have gotten your hopes up crushed by disappointment.

and as for the channelers... cut out the NutraSweet...


and yes, I'll be happy if I'm wrong...

[Mark]

You have very valid points - for me it is belief - will it to be so. If they don't turn up this time to the populas, they are here and it's but a matter of time - that's one thing I'm sure about...

[Rocky_Shorz]

I really wish I had some tissues to wipe the tears from my eyes. I've just read quite a few of the messages form the Federation of Light and feel warm, loved and ready - though I've always felt warm, loved and ready, knowing that something is about to happen...

Thanks for posting the links to the convastaions with the Fed of light - I've stopped crying now - though a good cry is great at times and for the right reason. I look forward to meeting you all when it comes to pass.

Love, peace - and forgive me - bananas...XX...

MarkXX...

<magic>

Mark,

thank you for opening up and sharing with all of us.

You are a special person, and like many of us, you've seen the light.

I don't understand how it works, but for some, their meanings flow through their writing, and it allows a few of us to look inside you.

What I see is a healing that has never happened, there are gifted people all over the world you can call on, you need someone that can help you rebalance your mind. Your gifts are unable to be used yet, but you will find incredible talent once you find your center...

I'm not sure if visiting monks is the answer, or as I have mentioned in other threads, find an Indigo healer that understands and can see what is going on inside you.

people do care, don't ever forget that...

[THE eXchanger]

I'm a starving artist - I write and draw and for years, even when I've tried other experiences, I've always came back to writing and drawing - this, I believe, is my path - creating stuff.



why not alter and change,
the above "i am, starving"
to something, you would rather NOT be doing

maybe,
if i might be bold enough to make a suggestion:
to: i am an artist who $ell$ my work to others
who have a solid appreciation, for what i do
and, they come to eXchange with me
i provide the colour to their lives
while i am doing, what i love to do,
and, they provide me, with the ability,
to sustain, and, to purchase more supplies,
so, i can keep my wheels greased...
and, so, i can create, more of what
i love to do

i'll bet, by getting the "starving" out of that statement--
you won't be that anymore :)

your total "i am" will alter/and, change
and, shift into eXactly what you want to be

"will it to be, so, it will be"
white lotus star

brightest blessings to you

susan
the eXchanger

ps: words have great power --

[Mark]

Thanks Rocky_Shorz and Susan,

oh, I love my life - the universe provides very well for me in a fashion - I have what I need - love around me - love within me and the ability to create stuff - you are right though about something not quite got by me - there is something that is stopping me form moving on - my girlfriend tells me the same - I've thought, searched my soul - phyisically and through meditation, but I still can not find anything that I have a problem with - I'd love to know and then it would be released - done with.

thank you all for your love - you get in back ten fold.

[JesterTerrestrial]

0. Perm - who are you working for? Just jokin.

1. Why do people spread such a false news. - How do you know its false?

2. Why do people spread such a false news. - Is this a question?

3. Are they all completely out of their minds? - Please define out of their minds. Do you mean in tune with the spiritual realms of life that causes the people who are sleep living to see them as wacky or cookie?

4. There are people around the world who are constantly watching the skies. - Thats amazing

5. No one cannot come out of the blues. - So then this means then can!

6. No spaceships are going to visit or no aliens are going to show up. - You don't know that and neither do I.


7. Don't waste your time posting fake news regarding the October 14. - I agree. Please don't post fake news regarding any subject. Time is an illusion.

8. If you are asking me for evidence, please question yourself before replying this post. - Nope. Wasn't asking.


9. Stop worrying about hoax calls. You blindly believe in something is going to come and show in the skies? - And somewhere i saw it sizes around 2000 miles, but can be seen only in Alabama. Are you peoples completely out of this world? The size is so huge you can see from most of the place around the world. - Who are you talking too? Guessing from the capital letters in the title of this thread I would asume that your yelling a fake. This sounds to me like you are obviously blindly beleiving that this is a fake with out investigating the sources yourself then accusing others at random?

10. Its completely non-logic to think a thing like this. - That is sweeping generalization.

11. You say that the Government is conducting experiments and do you think they will allow for and exhibition show like this? - That is sweeping generalization. And do you think they would have a choice?

12. What is the problem now for an exhibition like that? Its all hoax news. - hmmmm...or is it?

13. Find the source and question them instead of questioning this post. I have some logical portion of my brain working. If yours is also working then think. Else shut it down and go and sleep. Else go to Alabama using your valuable time. Remember, time cannot be earned again. - Good advice. Use it. I'm not going to alabama, but i hear its nice this time of year :original: If a 2000 mile long ship dose a flyby of the earth I should be able to see it from here...on the ground...with my crew:thumb_yello:

14. Think. Think like a human. Think - You are not your mind.

Have a nice day.

[Sanat]

I really wish I had some tissues to wipe the tears from my eyes. I've just read quite a few of the messages form the Federation of Light and feel warm, loved and ready - though I've always felt warm, loved and ready, knowing that something is about to happen.

Yes, that is a normal reaction to the truth/Light and high energy and Joy contained in each of these messages. If they were a hoax you would not have that reaction. Everything has an energyfield and it is calibratable. For the time being very little on this planet calibrate above 500 on David Hawkins scale (1-1000), but these messages do. That is an indicator on the truth they contain.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well if a Ship 3 times as big as Hurricane Ike does a fly by, I'm pretty sure it will be noticed... :mfr_lol:

[Rocky_Shorz]

Sanat,

I would never try to take from you what you believe, but in a public forum when people around the world are watching, you need both sides of the coin.

I stepped in because I saw what Mark was looking for, now I will bow out and let you continue...

[arcora]

I certainly hope it comes.

I will not be surprised or disappointed if it doesn't.

Even if it doesn't, this announcement may have the positive effect of forcing people to think about a change in paradigm.

[Mark]

Do Et's make typos? I've written so much and still make typos - you've problem read a lot of my typos here - I've read others typos on this forum. Maybe the message was supposed to read 200 miles long, or twenty miles long, 20,000 miles long or maybe a foot and a half? I don't know, but that is posible, isn't it?

[THE eXchanger]

QUESTION:
who are you?
is NOT a joke, it is a very serious thing
EVERY BEING on earth needs to discover who they are
it iS important

QUESTION:
Why do people spread such a false news?
they do NOT know better, or, are hoping to capitalise on it
they have NOT yet separated, beliefs/from actuals
discernment, is a process that helps to separte
fact from fiction

QUESTION:
How do you know its false?
you discern it

QUESTION:
Why do people spread such a false news?
they do NOT know better,
they are like sheep, being lead to a slaughter
5D astral spirits, appear to them, and, they speak
of course, the channel, or receiver of such messages,
did NOT properly discern, who and, what was coming through - they didn't stand the messenger, in the right kind of light - they didn't ask it the right questions,
they assumed

QUESTION:
Are they all completely out of their minds?
yes, and, no - they have allowed something else to come into their minds, and, they see it, as something it truly is NOT

QUESTION:
does it causes the people who are sleep living
to see them as wacky or cookie ?
They do a job, in some cases, they do awaken people...
and, if they awaken a person, to search, then, even if they did NOT do a 100% good job, they did a job, and, it has value

If you worry, about how others see you, then, you lose energy, be who you are, and, do that authentically

i think, you mean "kookie", not "cookie"...
there are some pretty good cookies here,
and, they are NOT the type that crumble

the indigeous tribes, refer to some people
as, "the walking dead"

we are more alive, in our dreams --
and, need to transport that awareness into 3D

QUESTION:
There are people around the world who are constantly watching the skies. -Thats amazing !!!

men/and, women, have always watched the skies,
it allows us, to chart our course

QUESTION:
No one cannot come out of the blues. -So then this means then can! ???

i do NOT get what you mean here...
some pretty powerful stuff, can manifest itself
out of the ethers --
rule 1) protect/protect/protect
rule 2) grant permission/and, give permission
to things, that are in 100% alignment with your mission/or purpose
rule 3) ask...ask...ask... ALWAYS

QUESTION:
No spaceships are going to visit or no aliens are going to show up ???

Why do you say that ? space ships; and; star beings
have always visited the earth

Alien is just a label -- people will be really amazed
when they discover, the real truth
of what all of us are, earth is a grand melding pot

QUESTION:
Don't waste your time posting fake news regarding the October 14. - Please don't post fake news regarding any subject.

it is important to discuss this,
it has project blue beam written all over it

QUESTION:
Time is an illusion [/COLOR]

outside of 3D, time in 3D is an illusion
in 3D, it is still time

QUESTION:
If you are asking me for evidence, please question yourself before replying this post. -Nope. Wasn't asking.

Evidence, is what is presented, in the discovery of truth...
so, evidence is important

in any eXchange both/or all parties are necessary

to rudely eXcuse another, is, to eXcuse only yourself

all points of view are valid ones,
as, they are the very beliefs, that need to be altered and changed, or eXchanged, into truths

QUESTION:
Stop worrying about hoax calls. You blindly believe in something is going to come and show in the skies? - And somewhere i saw it sizes around 2000 miles, but can be seen only in Alabama. Are you peoples completely out of this world? The size is so huge you can see from most of the place around the world. - Who are you talking too? Guessing from the capital letters in the title of this thread I would asume that your yelling a fake. This sounds to me like you are obviously blindly beleiving that this is a fake with out investigating the sources yourself then accusing others at random?

STOP WORRY, and, start to develop,
both, an i can, and, an i do, type of attitude
everyone is special, every place is special,
every eXchange needs to be honour, for the basis,
of what can be developed from it

if you feel/see, or hear NO truth - politely eXcuse yourself,
but, always, and, in all ways,
make your comments, as, to way,
clear / clean, and, consice ...
that way, another person/or , the other eXchangers,
will know, what you believe to be your truth
beliefs, are often altered/and, changed,
in real truths

QUESTION:
Its completely non-logic to think a thing like this. -
That is sweeping generalization.[/COLOR]

it requires logic / and, a mental mind to solve a problem
it also requires emotions / and, the intellect to also move with it -- we are all,
physical/emotional, and, intellectual beings,
first, and fore most -- they are the first three bars,
to developing, your ORIGINAL SPARK

QUESTION:
You say that the Government is conducting experiments and do you think they will allow for and exhibition show like this? That is sweeping generalization.[/COLOR] And do you think they would have a choice?

all people do experiments - it is how we get to answers
all people have a choice, to do, or to NOT do, or to just observe

taking actions, is what propels you,
into a negative pole, or into a positive pole

QUESTION:
What is the problem now for an exhibition like that? Its all hoax news. hmmmm...or is it?

That is something, for each and every
ORIGINAL SPARK, to discern for themselves,
and, by themselves, and, with others,
who are choosing to eXchange,
in order, to discern, and, to learn,
and, to become MORE, instead of becoming less


QUESTION:
Find the source and question them instead of questioning this post. I have some logical portion of my brain working. If yours is also working then think. Else shut it down and go and sleep. Else go to Alabama using your valuable time. Remember, time cannot be earned again. - Good advice. Use it. I'm not going to alabama, but i hear its nice this time of year If a 2000 mile long ship does a
fly bye of the earth I should be able to see it from here...on the ground...with my crew thumb_yello:

always identify the source, and, ask lts of questions
utilise logic, for sure
if something does NOT feel right, eXcuse it
i have NEVER heard of a 2000 mile long ship,
but, that does NOT mean, one does not eXist,
i have seen one, as big as a football field, once
i wish i knew, what happened, when, i was frozen in time,
for, 4 hours-and, ??? - one day, i will fill in the question marks

QUESTION:
Think. Think like a human. Think -
you are not your mind.[/COLOR]

Your thinking process, is a part of you
one part -- the filter

question:
Have a nice day.[/QUOTE]

unquestionably, i will :)

brightest blessings to all

susan
the eXchanger

[Sanat]

Sanat,

I would never try to take from you what you believe, but in a public forum when people around the world are watching, you need both sides of the coin.

I stepped in because I saw what Mark was looking for, now I will bow out and let you continue...

I don't believe anything, so that is no problem. What is Mark looking for?

[Mark]

Mark's looking for the truth - thanks for asking.

[Mark]

Don't step out or stop - there are more then two sides to everything - a unverse of infinant possibility...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hey Mark,

I visualized a painting, but don't have the talent to create it...


It is a picture of a Child being question in a room, and behind the one way mirror was a group observing the questioning and taking notes...

and behind them a one way mirror with a group observing the first group...

behind that Mirror was the child who was sitting in the chair being questioned...

it was called "The Shrinks"

It was about an indigo being diagnosed by modern science...

Are you the artist meant to create it?

[Sanat]

Mark's looking for the truth - thanks for asking.

Thats what I thought:original: If you keep looking one day it will find you...

[Mark]

Rocky - I've not had the idea to create such a painting, but I could with ease. I don't think I've ever drawn or paiting a picture thus. I'll ponder on that one a while me thinks...

Thanks for the thought...

[Mark]

you're right Sanat.

[Sanat]

Check out this clever video and decide for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HOAqNyRuaE

[Rocky_Shorz]

...

[ophiuchus]

if that's true everyone everywhere should know.blossom should be put on the spot immediately.

[Oiran]

The following is a powerful quote by Alex Collier taken from a lecture he gave in 1997 that is very much relevant today, specifically in regards to the issue of this alleged alien sighting coming up on the 14th of October.

"You know, this talk about "Ashtar" coming down here to save you. Ladies and gentlemen, it isn't going to happen. It just isn't going to happen. It's belief systems. When I was coming up here today, someone was reading some material to me by Haton, who was saying the same thing, "we're going to pick you up and take you to Mars." No thanks, I don't want to go to Mars. [Editor note That is where the Orion Group is]. Nobody is going to "save" you. According to the Andromedans, if you are sitting here waiting for a 'savior', you're not 'doing the work' yourself. Now, who else [but negative controllers] would come down here and 'take you off the hook'? For what purpose? You'd only re-create the situation again, because you haven't permanently evolved to the level of becoming your own savior. You haven't learned the lesson, and this is what their strongest message is.

You have to do the work yourself. You are only responsible for yourself. Nobody is going to come down here and take you off the hook. They even said if that even if they do directly intervene, they are not going to baby-sit. That means that we have to get it straight. We as a race have to come together and decide what it is we want and how it is we want to live.

We have to decide how we want to raise our children, what moral and ethical systems we want to have, etc. We don't need to be told by somebody else 'out there' what is best for us. It never works, and it isn't going to work now. Most human beings would rather die than live as a slave. That is just our nature. Our soul. We need to be free, and we are coming to that point again. We're there." ~Alex Collier

http://www.soulwise.net/99ac-07.htm

[Rocky_Shorz]

removed because I can't take away everyone's fun...

[Morphious]

I think....yep...i do...and also how i see it is this way. Most of the people that want this to happen is becasue we as a whole have been made more less like a slave race and it sucks..I think people make these things up because they still have hope for like a world wide peace. Who knows maybe it will happen but i highly doubt it. The world sucks and this is something to Hope for. Just one thing like this for real whould change the world as we know it. And if they are some alien race higher being whatever, i think they would not interfear no matter what..period. What do i know...Would'nt it be awsome though !

[elias]

We want this to happen and that is enough, we are creating the reality and let's create it.

[IronWoman]

The following is a powerful quote by Alex Collier taken from a lecture he gave in 1997 that is very much relevant today, specifically in regards to the issue of this alleged alien sighting coming up on the 14th of October.

"You know, this talk about "Ashtar" coming down here to save you. Ladies and gentlemen, it isn't going to happen. It just isn't going to happen. It's belief systems. When I was coming up here today, someone was reading some material to me by Haton, who was saying the same thing, "we're going to pick you up and take you to Mars." No thanks, I don't want to go to Mars. [Editor note That is where the Orion Group is]. Nobody is going to "save" you. According to the Andromedans, if you are sitting here waiting for a 'savior', you're not 'doing the work' yourself. Now, who else [but negative controllers] would come down here and 'take you off the hook'? For what purpose? You'd only re-create the situation again, because you haven't permanently evolved to the level of becoming your own savior. You haven't learned the lesson, and this is what their strongest message is.

You have to do the work yourself. You are only responsible for yourself. Nobody is going to come down here and take you off the hook. They even said if that even if they do directly intervene, they are not going to baby-sit. That means that we have to get it straight. We as a race have to come together and decide what it is we want and how it is we want to live.

We have to decide how we want to raise our children, what moral and ethical systems we want to have, etc. We don't need to be told by somebody else 'out there' what is best for us. It never works, and it isn't going to work now. Most human beings would rather die than live as a slave. That is just our nature. Our soul. We need to be free, and we are coming to that point again. We're there." ~Alex Collier

http://www.soulwise.net/99ac-07.htm
you are absolutely correct! Alex makes many great points..!!
much love
-IronWoman

[Mark]

Let's make it happen...good thoughts, people and love came make anything come to pass...

[seeing clearly]

Agreed. There is no way of knowing who or what the right beings are. How do you discern?

And when all the so called channeled info comes to nothing (eg October 14th) will those prophets accept their lack of credibility and disappear in embarrassment?

I hope so.

~


There is a "glamour" attached to this word 'channeling'

For an explanation of how "glamour" works to seduce us read up
on Manly P. Hall , Blatvasky, Gurdjeiff, et al.

What so many believe to be "channeling" is really the desire nature
running the mental programs that give TEMPORARY comfort and surfiet
to the conscious mind by allowing the addiction of pollyana thinking to
filter out all possible views other than the emotionally regressive
" its all ok because I know its all ok so dont even bother me with it
may NOT all be ok as I choose to go on living in my own fantasy world"


This is Spiritual abdication of one duty to ones Soul purpose.

The emotional need to be safe and allow some "peaceful" caretakers
to provide a secure future is the greatest weakness a human can
give in to.

One "discerns" by spending years seeking WITHIN, not by listening
to some "chanellers' of whatever persuasion.

To actually BE a channeler one would have to live in a reclusive
and protective environment for years focusing ONLY on the
INNER SELF and removing all emotional attachments to ones
desire nature, keeping a non toxic diet and spending much
time in Nature.

The channeled info would be devastating to most peoples comfort
zones so a real channeler would need protectors to prevent
frightened people from wanting to kill the channeler.

An old story.

And the REASON the REAL channelers are not public.

All the rest are playing parlor games.


~

[Sanat]

Showing up for 3 days in the sky does not "save us" in any way shape or form. But hopefully it will open up a lot of people to a bigger reality then their narrow mechanical work/eat/sleep rutine. Here is new info about the event:

Commander Adama’s Confirmation About October 14th 2008
September 14, 2008

Channeler: Commander Adama (Adam DeGray)

Guio e tiso! For those who know, there has been quite a commotion about October 14th 2008 being the day an ET ship will appear for the world to see like never before. Many channelers and psychics have already put their two cents in, in confirming this day and event. Now it is my turn to emit a message that not only confirms this but explains it with further detail.

For those who don’t know, I am Commander Adama. I am a Galactic Federation of Light representative of Planet Earth and have daily contact with these higher dimensional beings from our galaxy and Universe. For quite some time I have been told about an event of this magnitude happening, but until now was not permitted to write about it publically. Anyway, let me get right to the information you all wish to hear.

I am confirming to an extent that on October 14th 2008 there will be a Galactic Federation of Light ship stationed for a period of three days over the southern-most parts of the United States of America. Exactly where is still unknown. This IS an event that is planned to occur. What is important for everyone to remember is that this is a prediction of an event for your future.

Since it is impossible to predict the future, this event is in no way shape or form concrete in happening on October 14th 2008. Simply put, it depends upon the energetic signature of this event and its fluidity within the flow of manifestation between now and this date. It is important to not set up expectations solely upon this date as it is dependent upon the fluidity of the energies flowing through this planet, and events planned to manifest into your reality due have a tendency in changing the relative linear time as to when it will concretely happen. So basically what I am saying is that this event may happen on October 14th 2008, but there are also infinite possibilities that it may happen sooner or later than expected. These facts are key to understanding this event and its manifestation into your collective reality.

“Okay, so whether it happens on October 14th 2008 or sooner or later than expected, what can we expect to see and hear?”

When this event does occur, one of the Galactic Federation of Lights ships will appear within the southern-most parts of the United States of America; somewhere within the southern states. The reason why this is planned within the United States of America is due to the power structures that have the most amount of planetary control which is in this country. The Illuminati stronghold exists here which is why the GFOL is focusing on it to do two things. To create an event in which the whole planet can see the truth about life within your Galaxy and Universe and that it in fact does exist, as well as showing the Illuminati that their time is over as controllers and manipulators, and a new era of life is ready to be born! This event is what will jumpstart the proverbial ball to start rolling downhill symbolizing the process’ of extraterrestrial beings getting ready to assist humanity in transforming into a new reality.

“Okay, so let’s get to the actual event. I want to know how big this ship is, and what it will do if anything? Will it interact with us?”

The ship will be anywhere from 2,000 - 5,000 feet in length. It will be big enough to not deny but small enough to not create a lot of fear. What will it do? It will do two particular things which are significant.

1) It will emit a series of energies to both the world and the surrounding areas to limit the levels of fear or chaos that may erupt within some people. Large levels of these feelings and emotions will not occur.

2) It will emit telepathic messages to people within the surrounding areas but may be heard by a larger amount of the planets population depending upon what is needed and what is the most beneficial. These telepathic messages will tell people about the event, who they are, that they come in peace, as well as other things.

This event is planned to happen over a three day period in which the ship itself will not move at all. It will blip into your reality, and exit the same way. It will do this within the medium to higher aspects of the level of atmosphere known as the troposphere.

“But when this event occurs, won’t the Illuminati try to make the world believe that this is an alien invasion? And what if they try to censor this from the world’s media?”

Very good question! This is a question thought by a lot of people. The simple answers are NO for both questions. Why? The GFOL has planned this event in such a way that it will have a positive major impact within humanity as well as the dark. The Illuminati’s power is dwindling as each second passes. They do not have the power they once had. Will this stop them from trying to do what was asked? Probably not. But when an event of this magnitude happens, it is something that cannot be denied by anyone, even governments. This ship which is going to appear cannot be quickly debunked as some type of atmospheric phenomena or some other gaseous event, or even a “weather balloon.” When tens of thousands, if not more, are also saying that this ship has communicated with them in a peaceful benevolent manner, what is the world or its governments say to cover this up? There is nothing!

“So if October 14th comes and goes, and this event does not occur, what should we do or think?”

This is exactly why it is important not to set sole expectations upon this date. If this event does not happen then, then all that means is that there has been a slight shift in the energies of this event which has prolonged its manifestation. If this in fact does occur, a time frame you could expect to have it manifest is from October 15th 2008 until February 1st 2009. Know that whatever happens, the GFOL are always approaching their plans to assist in a manner that is the most beneficial for the planets humanity as a whole collective entity.

This event is real, it is planned, and it will happen no matter what, whether it is right on schedule, or sooner or later than expected.

Please spread this message as far as possible to better educate everyone about this event!

Love and Light,
Commander Adama

Commander Adama is a representative of the Galactic Federation of Light. He is the creator of the Galactic Federation of Light Yahoo Group. For those who wish to join, you may do so by going to this website:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGalacticFederationofLight/

He also writes weekly GFOL First Contact Updates and gives Spiritual Readings, and also has a wide variety of other services he offers. For more information about any of those, please go to:

www.GalacticAffairs.com

[Mark]

Thanks for that Sanat.

Dear Command Adamu,

Welcome. Do you fancy a drink? You're welcome to beam down and have a chat this afternoon if you're not too busy. You are welcome. Or if you let me put some shoes on, I'll gladly beam up there if that's ok?

Cheers, love and light,

MarXX...

<magic>

[Sanat]

Check out this clever video and decide for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HOAqNyRuaE

Here is an actual picture of the phenomena "snow cone":

http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/picts/gapic.jpg


Taken from: http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/BGoct14_page6.html which also contains a lot of: Confirmation of OCt 14th by other channells.

[Sanat]

Yes, certainly. I shall try to tell it right from the beginning. We of the Pleiadian civilisation are one of many races of beings that are space-bound. That is we have ships that can traverse the vast distances of space. The other space-bound races that we meet with that agree to a charter of Service to Other and non-intervention and so forth are invited to join an organisation called the Galactic Federation of Light. The Galactic Federation has been quite directly involved in your planet in many, many ways for your planets whole history. of late we have been bringing great many ships into the environment of your planet in order to assist with numerous subtle duties. I can list a few: assisting with the balancing of your magnetosphere, working against your destructive tendencies by disallowing nuclear explosions and similar, beaming in an balancing frequencies of light that assist in the ascension process, severely curtailing the negative activities of other self-serving space races and so on and so on. The list is long. The point is we have been here in the environs of your planet for a long time working very hard to assist in your welfare though you have not know about it. You see we can work across different densities of existence and we confine ourselves to densities other than your own so that we are not observed. This has been important as our non-interventionist policies dictate that we do not force ourselves upon a population that does not ask for, and is not ready for our arrival. But now, in the last number of years consciousness has been shifting on your planet. For many reasons. One is that there have been appearances by other self-serving space-bound races on your planet. They are not party to our Galactic Federation charter and so they behave with impunity. The managed to arrange an agreement with the American government many years ago which basically gave them access to your planet in exchange for militarily useful secrets. This has now backfired on them. They attempted to be stealthy in their interactions with earth humans but they made many errors. Your awareness of them and their ships picked up dramatically and caused your population to begin to ask questions. Then, with the incoming light consciousness on your planet has shifted radically. You are simply no longer willing to believe everything your governments tell you. You are no longer willing to be lead like lambs to the slaughter of the gods of fear and war. You think for yourselves and you ask questions. So, along this path you began to remember lives amongst us out in the stars. Or you reached out to us in your minds. Or in a heightened state of awareness you opened your perception to our ships in the neighbouring densities. Whatever the case might be you began to become aware of us. We were waiting. We eagerly engaged with any that would welcome it. We encouraged such engagement with subtle inputs like the crop circle phenomenon. And slowly the mind-set of earth inhabitants shifted. And now we are here at point where a significant number of earth's population are ready to know about our existence and are available to the possibility that we might be peaceful, loving and of positive intent. Despite all the power cabals efforts to paint us as bad and to be feared your people are ready to hear that we are of good intent. And so the time comes. We are ready to make a showing. We will do so soon.

More of this here: http://book-of-light.com/forums2/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=81/ scroll a bit down to find it...

A good analogy of the whole situation is that we can view Earth and humanity as a sick person. If a benevolent being see a sick person she will do what she can to try and help this person. However, the sick person must first realize that he is sick in order to be able to recieve help at all. That is the first step. When this is realized the person will seek help automatically because he now has a vision of something better, namely being healthy. The benevolent being can now start to help the sick person. The benevolent being does not become healthy FOR the sick person. Neither does she simply replace all the ill tissue and organs with healthy replacements in a gross manner. Rather she allows the sick person to "heal himself" by applying various subtle means in a holistic and subtle manner. She knows that the sick person must turn around 180 degrees and face all the stuff that caused the disease and process it out of the system in order to be truly healed. And thus she helps him in any way she can through this process.

This is how I see the Galactic Fedretion in relation to this Planet and humanity at large.

[jaby]

We want this to happen and that is enough, we are creating the reality and let's create it.

Well said.

I think that Blossom is genuine. 100%.

She was/is the catalyst for October 14.

Now the momentum has a life of it's own.
When the time is right for something, people
feel it, know it.

There is a reason that Blossom's chanelling has
spread around the world.

The reason is, that we WANT it.
Our wanting and hoping and believing is part of
the process.

How this time plays out remains to be seen.
But something is already happening.
Positive energy will not be wasted. The snowball of
desire is gathering strength by the minute.

Pay no attention to the nay-sayers.

[Mark]

You take the words from my mouth... the power of thought...

[jaby]

You take the words from my mouth... the power of thought...

Interesting. Because you are in the same town as me.:thumb_yello: