A WARNING; Heads up, 2009 August/September time.

[Sol Invictus]

I have got permission from the original senders of this message to post it now out in the open forum because they have taken steps to ensure that as of this morning, they are out of the Uk and well out of reach from any repercussions.

The warning is thus; In 2009, end of August, start of september and lasting for 3 months, maybe a bit less, is a 'coming event' that has made some very serious professional people take their lives and uproot and move entirely out of the UK to areas more remote. These people are throwing away 10, 15 years of government work in defense, technology and nuclear power as well as other arms and have as of this morning, gone.

This event I am told and its causes are being very carefully hidden from view by a manufactured crisis in our banking system / world system. They themselves do not know the exact reason or the exact event, but it is according to them being very well prepared for at senior government levels world wide.

Their warning was thus; be safe and store enough food for 3 months. Store water and other goods you will need. Their will be no help for at least 3 months, maybe more. Depending on its severity, other steps may need to be taken.

[burgundia]

several years ago,a seer ( a very simple man, who lived in the south-west of Poland, he's been dead for several years now) warned about a great flood in September 2009. His first prophecy ( about a flood that started 7/7/1997 in Poland) came true. He said in that prophecy that when three sevens would come together His home town would be afflicted by a devastating flood, and so it happened. His next prophecy says that when three nines come together even a more devastating flood will afflict his home town. The next date with three nines is september 9, 2009. His home town is in a mountain valley in the sout-west of Poland , very far from the sea.

[viking]

I have got permission from the original senders of this message to post it now out in the open forum because they have taken steps to ensure that as of this morning, they are out of the Uk and well out of reach from any repercussions.

The warning is thus; In 2009, end of August, start of september and lasting for 3 months, maybe a bit less, is a 'coming event' that has made some very serious professional people take their lives and uproot and move entirely out of the UK to areas more remote. These people are throwing away 10, 15 years of government work in defense, technology and nuclear power as well as other arms and have as of this morning, gone.

This event I am told and its causes are being very carefully hidden from view by a manufactured crisis in our banking system / world system. They themselves do not know the exact reason or the exact event, but it is according to them being very well prepared for at senior government levels world wide.

Their warning was thus; be safe and store enough food for 3 months. Store water and other goods you will need. Their will be no help for at least 3 months, maybe more. Depending on its severity, other steps may need to be taken.

Hi Sol ...

Where did you get this information from.

Eric

[feardia]

Thats cheered me up no end this morning...:nono:
did they go east or west? I noticed too that the Queen bought herself a new house in Colorado.

[Ammit]

Blimey, cheered me up to :shocked:

Atleast I suppose it gives us some time, but move out of britain for me is a non option unfortuneatly

[Antonia]

If this is true, which it might be,then surely if it was flooding which would be caused by tidel waves that would have to affect The UK, Ireland, Denmark Holland as well as the east coast ot the USA as it would have to come from up by the polar regins? No? Or.. may be an Eath quake at the bottom of the atlantic ocean which case Ireland is really in the sh..t (Me and feardia live in Ireland). .... Ok rationally...if it's somthing that could only affect the Uk it has to be somthing like a nuclear senario??? Bombs or bogus terrorist attacks in places like Sellafield? Whcih is only a few miles accross a very small sea from me in Dublin.... Or a plague.... I guess I's better go some where far away and high up for my summer hollidays and stay along time.

Dear God it's all starting....now...I am so ill-prepared.
Antonia

[feardia]

Now Antonia, no need to panic, thats the weekend of the fleadh cheoil and its in Tullamore this year, so we'll be grand.

Three warnings shall be given them before their final fall,
The burning of the Tower of the great kings,
The conflagration of the Dockyard of the Galls,
And the burning of the Treasury where gold is deposited.

...And seven years before the last day,
The sea shall submerge Eirin by one inundation...

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=TiCh1Xu6BAw

[SplatPantZ]

As a tip, just keep reasonable stocks of food in your cupboards and safe places incase of any event, always a sane thing to do.

Had enough of these doom threads though :wub2:

[burgundia]

If this is true, which it might be,then surely if it was flooding which would be caused by tidel waves that would have to affect The UK, Ireland, Denmark Holland as well as the east coast ot the USA as it would have to come from up by the polar regins? No? Or.. may be an Eath quake at the bottom of the atlantic ocean which case Ireland is really in the sh..t (Me and feardia live in Ireland). .... Ok rationally...if it's somthing that could only affect the Uk it has to be somthing like a nuclear senario??? Bombs or bogus terrorist attacks in places like Sellafield? Whcih is only a few miles accross a very small sea from me in Dublin.... Or a plague.... I guess I's better go some where far away and high up for my summer hollidays and stay along time.

Dear God it's all starting....now...I am so ill-prepared.
Antonia

i don't remember now , but i believe Nostradamus said something about an island state which would be attacked by nuclear weapon or that that country would retaliate with nuclear weapon. Sth like that, but i am not sure.

[Colin]

but it is according to them being very well prepared for at senior government levels world wide.


Hmmm...so if/when this event takes place it will have global ramifications.

So, what could it be? Large asteroid hit? Pole Shift? Nuclear Winter?Global Pandemic? CME?

No disrespect to the OP, but how reliable is/was the source of this information? We have seen this type of speculation numerous times already..

However, the information would explain some of the recent events that are/have occured, e.g huge seed store being contructed in Norway, various world leaders buying large plots of land in South American countries, various governments nigh on insisting that the populous be inoculated against some disease or another..and the manufactured global financial crisis, to name but a few.

IMHO the safest thing we can do is not panic, keep our eyes & ears open for coroborating reports...and watch for world leaders suddenly taking extended breaks outside their own country..

I've just remembered something. My local borough council did a huge leaflet drop last year which has always puzzled me. Emergency Planning Leaflet (http://www.clevelandemergencyplanning.info/Documents/Z%20Card.pdf)

[norman]

And what has Prince William decided he want's to be?

An Air/Sea rescue pilot!

[Sol Invictus]

Hi all.

The information is from people whom I trust 100%.

Chile, India, Canada (west coast) are all locations people have fled to, as well as Southern and central Spain.

Also, they are going underground.

Now, I am NOT in the position to leave the UK or even move locations.

However, I am fully planning on having enough food and water supplies to last this period should an event arise.

I am also searching VERY hard for suitable underground locations.

[Sol Invictus]

The food expert Steph said 'food will be extremely short and hardship and starvation is going to be very common. Thats what they want us to calculate'.

The Nuclear tech said 'electrical systems are going to go down on a global scale, the grid will die. Thats whats in the pipe line'.

The telecommunications expert said 'all forms will be off. nothing, not satellites, no GPS, nothing will work. Thats what we are planning for'.

The nurses said 'our people are planning for some thing - we have had massive over stocks and not an eyebrow has been raised'.

make of it what you will, but I for one am deadly serious about being very close to a location in those months to dip off under ground at a fair pace.

[Ammit]

Well, unfortuneately, not many places around here to hide in...

[Sol Invictus]

Ammit, you laugh, but i know people in london who are going underground.

Its possible, just think about it for a minute.

[Antonia]

Thanks Ferdia. you always put a smile on my face yet you are always the voice of informed reason...
Does any body know if Italy is going to be above water, below water?? Have an uncle with a little mountain abode 2000 feet up and beside a water supply might be a safe place when the big submerging goes down but then isn't there an nuclear bomb targeted to the vatican at some time or other?? Read that some where... Naustradamus or some other prophecy. My uncles place is an hour from Rome... oh well I might as well join Ferdia in the pub...

and toast to Colm Cille or take up surfing... Antonia

[Myplanet2]

Underground in London isn't something I'd plan on.

A preponderance of predictions to date have a water/flood/coastal event component.

And water finds any available hole.

Underground in low lying areas is asking for trouble, if you ask me (and nobody did:zip:)

Oh, and thanks for the heads up, Sol. Every data point goes into the mix to form up likelihoods. It all helps.

[Sol Invictus]

Underground in London isn't something I'd plan on.

A preponderance of predictions to date have a water/flood/coastal event component.

And water finds any available hole.

Underground in low lying areas is asking for trouble, if you ask me (and nobody did:zip:)

Feel free to add what you like.

However, if the people who warned me are going underground, so am I. If you choose to sit this one out on the surface should it arise as rapidly as forcast, well... thats your free will and free choice.

[Ammit]

Sol, I was not laughing, just consider anyone who lives close enough to caves at the moment, very lucky. I do have a sense of humour but atlas find these next coming months scary and not funny at all.

Like many many people , I have a family and the thought of dragging not only my wife but my young children also to somewhere that will be unpredictable, this I find very un-ammusing believe me.

Appologies for non offense intended.

[Sol Invictus]

Ammit,
there is nothing at all to apologise about.

I sat in utter stunned silence at the table when they weer banding about ideas on what the hell to do.

I am in no position at all to move or relocate myself. I am however looking at making damn sure that when september rolls around I am as fully prepared as i can be.
Hence the Sunday 'prep' speech for the ground crew.

[Carol]

If the grid is going down one would likely be expecting a CME or something from the heavens that would impact orbiting satillites.

I found this message very interesting as CMEs have happened in the past and in fact Canada got the last hit that I'm aware of and ended up a bit of a mess in the impacted area. A solar flare in 1989 blacked out all of Quebec, Canada. Then there was the Solar Magnetic Cloud (SMC)/Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) event of January1997 triggered ... Svalbard and in the polar cap region over Eureka, Canada. So it would seem that it is the northern hemispheres that tend to have been targeted when these past two events occurred.

This information, along with some intuitional hits is why our research team are now brainstorming on how to prepare some very cheap underground structures as a means to protect oneself from these type of events. As Jim Marrs says, "Hope for the best and prepare for the worst." Which is exactly what we are doing in our own small way.
__________________
Here is one thread where we are brainstorming underground shelters.. we have a lot more info on this but it isn't posted yet.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8281

[Softkiller]

I have got permission from the original senders of this message to post it now out in the open forum because they have taken steps to ensure that as of this morning, they are out of the Uk and well out of reach from any repercussions.

The warning is thus; In 2009, end of August, start of september and lasting for 3 months, maybe a bit less, is a 'coming event' that has made some very serious professional people take their lives and uproot and move entirely out of the UK to areas more remote. These people are throwing away 10, 15 years of government work in defense, technology and nuclear power as well as other arms and have as of this morning, gone.

This event I am told and its causes are being very carefully hidden from view by a manufactured crisis in our banking system / world system. They themselves do not know the exact reason or the exact event, but it is according to them being very well prepared for at senior government levels world wide.

Their warning was thus; be safe and store enough food for 3 months. Store water and other goods you will need. Their will be no help for at least 3 months, maybe more. Depending on its severity, other steps may need to be taken.


Hidden Hand on Above Top Secret forum wrote:
"There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions
over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches. You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be
raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent
drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater."
Is this the smoking gun?
Food for thought.

[Sol Invictus]

according to one person who is heading for Romania of all places, they can sustain themselves for months on just their monies raised through house sales etc, and then go into the caves and sit it out.

Wind speeds of 300+ ? Thats going to make all surface life impossible, and I can see why starvation and satellites would go down if the suns the cause.

[whalerider]

Now Antonia, no need to panic, thats the weekend of the fleadh cheoil and its in Tullamore this year, so we'll be grand.

Three warnings shall be given them before their final fall,
The burning of the Tower of the great kings,
The conflagration of the Dockyard of the Galls,
And the burning of the Treasury where gold is deposited.

...And seven years before the last day,
The sea shall submerge Eirin by one inundation...

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=TiCh1Xu6BAw

Feardia...heads up...I clicked the Youtube link you posted and picked up a virus I had to clear off my computer. It's the only place I've been on the web today except this site.

[Ammit]

I have to be honest and say, I have self trained in bushcraft and survival techniques, christ years ago I was trained in guerilla warfare techniques.
I can grab one of 2 bags ( grab bags ) at anytime and I can go, anywhere.

One is good for 3 days and one for 8 days without any other additions except water. And I would survive, I have done it in tests.

What worries me about the future is not where food or water is coming from for my family as I can foridge that but, outside inteference. I know people will panic, with panic, comes fear, with fear comes selfisness. People will kill for a bottle of water, a bag of food or even for the rights of your new cave dwelling.

That is what I fear. I know that in such a situation I will flick a switch and go combat mode to protect what I have.

It frightens me...

[iainl140285]

[QUOTE=Carol;88321]If the grid is going down one would likely be expecting a CME or something from the heavens that would impact orbiting satillites.


Thats exactly what I thought of Carol.
Being prepared is of course just good common sense BUT everyone, please remember nothing is set in stone. NOTHING. Do not breed fear - everything will, as always. happen as its supposed to :thumb_yello:

Be Safe
Peace
Iain

[Swanny]

Ammit I feel the same as you
I'm more frightened of what other people will do and what I will do to them if they try to interfere with me or my loved ones.
Hopefully I will just make myself invisable and keep out of their way.

[Sol Invictus]

Do not breed fear


I am not breeding fear. I am telling you though about sensible, rational well thought of professional people who have said in stark terms ' be ready'. They say sept 2009, i'll be ready middle of august at the latest.

If you want to live and let live, then I will never, ever say anything against decisions made by others that effect them and not me.

[alyscat]

Another data point - Half Past Human's 2009 summer of/from Hell. I read the Urban Survival pages every day (George Ure's economic comments, but he is also talking self-sufficiency. I'm sure as we get closer to it, the actual "details" will flush out more.
alys

http://www.urbansurvival.com

[eurosceptic]

Unless I am mistaken, Boriska the 'Indigo' child in Russia, has also also predicted floods in Russia starting around August 2009???

[whalerider]

Another data point - Half Past Human's 2009 summer of/from Hell. I read the Urban Survival pages every day (George Ure's economic comments, but he is also talking self-sufficiency. I'm sure as we get closer to it, the actual "details" will flush out more.
alys

http://www.urbansurvival.com

If you are wondering where the TRILLIONS in bailout money is going:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2008/11/26/MNVN14C8QR.DTL&o=0

[iainl140285]

I am not breeding fear. I am telling you though about sensible, rational well thought of professional people who have said in stark terms ' be ready'. They say sept 2009, i'll be ready middle of august at the latest.

If you want to live and let live, then I will never, ever say anything against decisions made by others that effect them and not me.


Hi Sol, that was not directed at you specifically.
If anything I would hope that all who knew of a coming event would be brave enough to share that info. :thumb_yello:

It was more in reference to the speculation on what MIGHT occur. Floods, earthquakes, CMEs, people killing for food. Although all possibilities, that is just what they are - possibilities. If we all hunker down in our bunkers prepared to kill in defense or for food we are kinda going against what Avalon is about.

We are all capable of more, that I promise you. What if everyone banded together if/when a crisis occurs? :wub2:
Lets start preparing for that if this thing is going to happen


Pecae, love and light
Regards
Iain

[whalerider]

Another data point - Half Past Human's 2009 summer of/from Hell. I read the Urban Survival pages every day (George Ure's economic comments, but he is also talking self-sufficiency. I'm sure as we get closer to it, the actual "details" will flush out more.
alys

http://www.urbansurvival.com

A great link from urbansurvival today is:

http://www.goodmagazine.com/section/Features/the_new_nostradamus

From that article, here is the best solution to the Israel/Palestine conflict that I've EVER heard:
Recently, he’s applied his science to come up with some novel ideas on how to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. “In my view, it is a mistake to look for strategies that build mutual trust because it ain’t going to happen. Neither side has any reason to trust the other, for good reason,” he says. “Land for peace is an inherently flawed concept because it has a fundamental commitment problem. If I give you land on your promise of peace in the future, after you have the land, as the Israelis well know, it is very costly to take it back if you renege. You have an incentive to say, ‘You made a good step, it’s a gesture in the right direction, but I thought you were giving me more than this. I can’t give you peace just for this, it’s not enough.’ Conversely, if we have peace for land—you disarm, put down your weapons, and get rid of the threats to me and I will then give you the land—the reverse is true: I have no commitment to follow through. Once you’ve laid down your weapons, you have no threat.”

Bueno de Mesquita’s answer to this dilemma, which he discussed with the former Israeli prime minister and recently elected Labor leader Ehud Barak, is a formula that guarantees mutual incentives to cooperate. “In a peaceful world, what do the Palestinians anticipate will be their main source of economic viability? Tourism. This is what their own documents say. And, of course, the Israelis make a lot of money from tourism, and that revenue is very easy to track. As a starting point requiring no trust, no mutual cooperation, I would suggest that all tourist revenue be [divided by] a fixed formula based on the current population of the region, which is roughly 40 percent Palestinian, 60 percent Israeli. The money would go automatically to each side. Now, when there is violence, tourists don’t come. So the tourist revenue is automatically responsive to the level of violence on either side for both sides. You have an accounting firm that both sides agree to, you let the U.N. do it, whatever. It’s completely self-enforcing, it requires no cooperation except the initial agreement by the Israelis that they are going to turn this part of the revenue over, on a fixed formula based on population, to some international agency, and that’s that.”

[Ammit]

Quote: It was more in reference to the speculation on what MIGHT occur. Floods, earthquakes, CMEs, people killing for food. Although all possibilities, that is just what they are - possibilities. If we all hunker down in our bunkers prepared to kill in defense or for food we are kinda going against what Avalon is about.

Ok, what will you do hand over your food with a welcome back anytime voucher?.

Yes, they are possibillities, but very real ones the same as the forum is possillities but because of this forum you as you say "hunker down in your bunker", why does this site make you think at some stage you may need to.
Having come from a big uk city, and witnessed murder for a teaspoon full of drugs, homes robbed while you sat watching tv and my friends brother put in hospital as a cabbage for £5 in his wallet.

Possibillities, more a reality then you think my friend.

[iainl140285]

Quote: It was more in reference to the speculation on what MIGHT occur. Floods, earthquakes, CMEs, people killing for food. Although all possibilities, that is just what they are - possibilities. If we all hunker down in our bunkers prepared to kill in defense or for food we are kinda going against what Avalon is about.

Ok, what will you do hand over your food with a welcome back anytime voucher?.

Yes, they are possibillities, but very real ones the same as the forum is possillities but because of this forum you as you say "hunker down in your bunker", why does this site make you think at some stage you may need to.
Having come from a big uk city, and witnessed murder for a teaspoon full of drugs, homes robbed while you sat watching tv and my friends brother put in hospital as a cabbage for £5 in his wallet.

Possibillities, more a reality then you think my friend.

Yes thats what I'll do - make up vouchers and food stamps! Come on. Im not talking about feeding the thousands. If groups of neighbours band together it will be a lot safer.

And yes - certain posts on this forum suggest (to me) that people are preparing to go it alone.

Lets continue this line of thought in Sept.
Until then, I'll keep :zip:

Best Regards
Iain

[Ammit]

ok, let me explain what I plan for my neibours or anyone else I find who , if this happens may need help..

I am setting up a system of water containers 120 gallons each, my garden by then would have produced as last year an abundance of food, packed and stored ready for use, I have almost completed 4 barrell turbines each capable of about 1kW.

This is done at my own expense as I cannot bunker down anywhere and will have to ride it out with my family and my nearest neibours. The power if the grid goes down would not only be for lighting mine and others houses but also to keep freezers working as this is the most convenient way to preserve food and most people nowadays have an abundance of frozen whatever that could keep them going that little bit longer.

My hope is that if things go wrong then, when the neibours are in shock and dont know what to do, I can gather them up, share things out and maybe help them work as a community.

Only a thought, but I think its a nice one.

[feardia]

Thats all you can do ammit, and there should be plenty of nuts and berries about around that time of year, i'm fed up with tesco's poison anyway.:roll1:

[tacodog]

Hi all.

The information is from people whom I trust 100%.

Chile, India, Canada (west coast) are all locations people have fled to, as well as Southern and central Spain.

Also, they are going underground.

Now, I am NOT in the position to leave the UK or even move locations.

However, I am fully planning on having enough food and water supplies to last this period should an event arise.

I am also searching VERY hard for suitable underground locations.


Why the West Coast (Canada)? I am Pacific Northwest Canada, right by the sea.......

[Frank Samuel]

Day to Day there's events unfolding, I often wonder how is it possible for us to remain alive in this planet when we are doing everything possible to destroy the very thing that is giving us life. I do believe the Earth itself is protecting us. Despite the irresponsible acts against the ecosystem of this planet the planet is working 24/7 to keep us alive. Our egos are so big as to think ourselves the center of everything. Wether we survive a major catastrophe or not , something needs to change within our concious, I do believe unconciously the planet is forcing us to evolve. Continuing on this self destructive path will eventually extinguish the human race from the face of this planet. Little by little we are finally learning our lesson and several groups have evolved to stop the self destruction of all. Is easy to point the fingers to others and think ourselves free of guilt, is time to take action stand your ground and fight against the very thing destroying our planet, ourselves. Be grateful to this planet for every breath we take, do not take anything for granted be humble enough to accept that there's things beyond our control. May we all evolve to see a future of concious humility and gratitude to the very thing giving all of us life mother earth.:wub2::wub2::thumb_yello:

[Carol]

ok, let me explain what I plan for my neibours or anyone else I find who , if this happens may need help..

I am setting up a system of water containers 120 gallons each, my garden by then would have produced as last year an abundance of food, packed and stored ready for use, I have almost completed 4 barrell turbines each capable of about 1kW.

This is done at my own expense as I cannot bunker down anywhere and will have to ride it out with my family and my nearest neibours. The power if the grid goes down would not only be for lighting mine and others houses but also to keep freezers working as this is the most convenient way to preserve food and most people nowadays have an abundance of frozen whatever that could keep them going that little bit longer.

My hope is that if things go wrong then, when the neibours are in shock and dont know what to do, I can gather them up, share things out and maybe help them work as a community.

Only a thought, but I think its a nice one.

A tip for freezers is to fill empty milk cartons with water and layer them along the bottom and sides of your freezer. Dry ice is good to have on hand as well. One can also bury an insulated container using the same formula of frozen milk containers with food in the middle. Insulate with stray bales is another way to go.. only line the outside of the bales with a heavy grade plastic to prevent seapage and rotting. Meats really are best if smoked or dried where they can be rehydrated later. However, I've been storing dry salami and cheese which is covered in wax which protects it as well. Basics... oatmeal, rice, seed sprouts, wheat, pasta, spices, sugar, powered milk, dehydrated fruits and vegetables, water. Materials to build hydroponic system.. cheap.. I'll get both the plans and material list to everyone on the forum.

Check out www.friendlyaquaponics.com They are building their website and are at the cutting edge of producing nutricious, fast growing (1/2 the time) food production. Complete system grows fish, prawns, fruit and vetetables.

[joe2288]

yes the END GAME is deffinitly near this thankksgiving my whole family was

talkin about the economy and how bad it is i deff heard the depression word

being tossed around a bunch of times i think it is becoming clear to everyone

both us and the ones still asleep something is deff going wrong i plan on

starting to prepare a simple survival book n decent tools could halp ne1 i

suggest other people do the same

good luck :smoke:

[Sol Invictus]

Why the West Coast (Canada)? I am Pacific Northwest Canada, right by the sea.......


Because its where they have located themselves. its where they weighed up their odds and own experiences and said 'right, this is close enough to remote areas and good water sources'.

[Sol Invictus]

Joe we are heading for possibly the perfect storm.

World economy shattered, world food production and reserves at an all time low, unemployemnet spiralling out of control, weather - the sun is doing what at this minute? the skies are doing what? the magnetic pole shifting about like a salsa dancer...

Some things coming and I pray to God we all ride the storm out and come out the other side a bit weary, a bit battered and bruised, but alive, survivors and ready to face a whole new dawn.

[joe2288]

ok what im really worried about is these winds i know goerge green talked

about them in some of his interveiws what is your opinion? do u think they are

deff going to happen because that would make surface life very hard and

unfortunately i have know way of going underground will they just hit certain

areas

[golden lady]

Hi Sol, thank you for the warning. All of this quite unsettling. I was just begining to feel a little more relaxed about things, maybe the calm before the storm! I have just a couple of questions/points, I hope you don't mind?
Are your friends thinking of returning to the uk after the 3months?
I know you said they didn't know what the 'event might be, but what was their best guess, if any?
If the event was to do with CMEs how would anyone know of a safe location?
You say goverments worldwide are preparing, the people you speak of, are their friends (in their professional field) in other countries also relocating?
Sorry for the questions, just trying to make sence of it all.
Love, peace and courage to all.
Golden.

[Swanny]

Joe this is the best site I've found for survival tips http://www.nobull****survival.com/

IMO Geogre Green is full of poo, I don't rate him at all, just seems like some sad git on a ego trip to me. :)

People with stores of food I would recommend you start to burry some of it in the garden, if it does get bad you can guarantee someone is going to coming looking in your house to see what you have and they will take it if they can, so better to be safe than sorry and have a back up supply just in case.


Grr!!! Stupid fecking word censor has censored the link I posted :mad3:

It should say http://www.nobulls ... hitsurvival.com/
I forgot we are all just 12 years old and must be protected from naughty words :thumbdown:

[Swanny]

I'm probably wrong but from what I've read CME's wont hurt us, but electrical things won't be much good, so maybe make yourself a Faraday cage and chuck your iPod etc in that.
I also read that they can only predict these up to 1 hour in advance, so I don't think it is CME's these people are hiding from.

I remember a couple of months ago a radio station having a tape of someone from England buying a house somewhere in USA and telling people to get out of the UK, http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3786 so I'm not going to lose much sleep over this one, but I think I may go on holiday to Spain at the end of August just in case :original:

[Frank Samuel]

Hey Swammy a vacation is a good idea just make sure you don't vacation on a island just in case a tzunami comes crashing to the shores, not much preparation you can do in this case except get a surf board or a boat and go to higher ground.:naughty::surfing::boat::thumb_yello:

[Sol Invictus]

about them in some of his interveiws what is your opinion? do u think they are

deff going to happen because that would make surface life very hard and

unfortunately i have know way of going underground will they just hit certain

areas

If those winds happen and we have an hours warning I don't think anythings going to survive. BUT, and its a big but - my friends are going for a period of 3 months and they are going to remote areas as i said of chile, Western Canada and South and Central spain. With underground access. They are planning on sitting it out at / in their areas near enough to just zip in should ANYTHING occur.

I am just grateful for the heads up to be honest.

[Sol Invictus]

Hi Sol, thank you for the warning. All of this quite unsettling. I was just begining to feel a little more relaxed about things, maybe the calm before the storm! I have just a couple of questions/points, I hope you don't mind?
Are your friends thinking of returning to the uk after the 3months?
I know you said they didn't know what the 'event might be, but what was their best guess, if any?
If the event was to do with CMEs how would anyone know of a safe location?
You say goverments worldwide are preparing, the people you speak of, are their friends (in their professional field) in other countries also relocating?
Sorry for the questions, just trying to make sence of it all.
Love, peace and courage to all.
Golden.

A) They will if they can. Most though i.e. Steph in Canada and the ones going to Chile plan on being longer if not permanent.

b) Best guess was an event that is either a space event with massive energies strike from the telecomms, Comet and a major exo-solar event from Agriculture and finally a sea hit by a comet off the greenland coast and a volcanoe triggerd that goes major disaster time.
All the above are guesses based on time being planned for, and the amount of chaos predicted. Though i stress it is their opinions NOT fact.

We talked about a major solar event like this, and every one agreed that IF it is solar, then those not already underground have little or no chance - Hence people not taking that chance and waiting in or near underground areas. However, from the planning already talked over, food, health, law and order are expected to be near zero and major casualties are expected because of the hospital stocking way higher than it needs to.

As for professionals in other countries - well, professionals from Chile and canada are taking in our people and making ready.

As for Spain i think thats just luck this person already is half spanish and knows the mountains and its people.

[Sol Invictus]

I also read that they can only predict these up to 1 hour in advance, so I don't think it is CME's these people are hiding from.

''''''''but I think I may go on holiday to Spain at the end of August just in case :original:

Both are good points. I am planning on 'being on holiday' for Sept 2009. Oh and i am having a caving holiday cheers.

[Sol Invictus]

An 'extra solar system' energetic event, coupled with a huge drop in the earths magnetic field and a substantial amount of energies reaching into our solar system because of decreased protective ability of the sun as it goes through its own changes during this event.

The earths own fields fail and bend, and let what we would normally be protected from sweep in and reach the ground.

Predicted that this would a) chill the earth and B) cause wide spread famine and panic and deaths through cold injuries and starvation.

Thats the science 'theory'. makes bleak reading but we discussed it and actually if we had a small heads up it would make it worse because people would have time to panic and start food riots and the like.

[burgundia]

On the back cover of the book "Beyond Prophecies and Predictions" by Moira Timms it is written:"The choices we collectively make today create our tomorrow.Positive changes in the mass consciousness and constructive actions can modify our planetary karma and avert catastrophe."
We should focus on such words and try to make the future a positive reality, with our thoughts and intentions, and engage not only our minds but also our hearts in the process.

[Sol Invictus]

On the back cover of the book "Beyond Prophecies and Predictions" by Moira Timms it is written:"The choices we collectively make today create our tomorrow.Positive changes in the mass consciousness and constructive actions can modify our planetary karma and avert catastrophe."
We should focus on such words and try to make the future a positive reality, with our thoughts and intentions, and engage not only our minds but also our hearts in the process.

Awesome. Thats just fab. I bring total positivity to my preperations and readiness at the same time wishing it not to happen. Hope it works.

[Antonia]

So can I ask you Solinvictus... After talking toyour friends in the know and with your own intuition what do you think is going to happen??? I hope you don't mind me asking this?
Antonia

[IronWoman]

didn't Boriska- Mars boy say the same thing...????

[Sol Invictus]

So can I ask you Solinvictus... After talking toyour friends in the know and with your own intuition what do you think is going to happen??? I hope you don't mind me asking this?
Antonia

My own intuition?

Whe I was eight I had a vivid nightmare that scarred my childhood. My parents teased me about it till I was 15 /16 and grew out of 'sleep running away'.

The dream - I would 'awake' in my dream world, and be stood in shorts and flip flops on a really hot sunny day. The sun was so white it was painful, so i decided to go sit in the shade of the trees. I looked over to the tree (facing south east) and saw a weird violet/inky blue part of the sky shaped like a pear. It grew and then contracted, then grew larger, and then the sky goes almost black, the sun dips beneath the horizon and rises again really quickly and I feel sick. Then the sky 'opens' and a 'tidal wave' of light and sand sized particles pour from this pear shaped area onto the earth over the horizon.

It was like watching milk being poured from great height onto the land from a galactic sized bottle, frothing, splashing and billowing over the land.

It was sloshing and foaming higher and the roaring sound was immense, and I started to scream for people to come see.

In the distance was a flock of birds, which changed into hundreds of air craft, which turned into a sky full of purple/violet/blue and green classic saucer shaped UFOs with red/yellow/green/blue lights around them.

They were every where, and one veered and swooped down towards me, and I screamed and ran like hell down the road to try get to the woods. A large boom rattled across the sky and this UFO all purple and pink would be sat above me as I ran.

For eight years i dreamt it almost every other night, and would 'sleep run' and have to be either brought back or left to sleep in the cupboard I would crawl into and hide.

So what do i think?

I think that after seeing an inky violet sky the other morning made my heart stop, and on top of 'sept 2009' warning my intuition is screaming at me to run and hide, and hide good.

Granted, people may say that the dream is colouring my response to my friends warning, but believe me, if you have ever had a re-occuring terror like that and its lasted eight years, then you banish it, only for it to re-appear in your sleep three months ago, you too would be looking long and hard at why and whats triggered it.

The warning really was just the topping I didn't need. No one knew about my nightmares bar my wife, and after they told me their warning, i told them my dream.

[Dominic]

Thanks for the info.

It hit me as the truth.

I knew the banker bailout was a cover up.

peace

[Carol]

I've spent the day costing things out and making lists. Here is one good site. They are closed for the weekend but this is a good start.

http://efoodsdirect.com/products.html I'm ordering the following for only $2,290.90

Food Storage
800-810-4441

The Freedom Unit Contents $1,682.00
Wheat 6 resealable five gallon buckets (222 lbs) $174
Grain Mill uses low temperature, frictionless milling $259.95
Garden Seed Can Contents $35
Berkey Light Purified Water Filter $100
Air-Aid Emergency Mask $39.95

[Sol Invictus]

Carol, thats an absolute bargain. Pity the import tax works out to the uk as $700 ! :shocked: British tax men should be renamed 'British thieving scumbags'.

[whalerider]

On the back cover of the book "Beyond Prophecies and Predictions" by Moira Timms it is written:"The choices we collectively make today create our tomorrow.Positive changes in the mass consciousness and constructive actions can modify our planetary karma and avert catastrophe."
We should focus on such words and try to make the future a positive reality, with our thoughts and intentions, and engage not only our minds but also our hearts in the process.


You are the only other person I've ever heard mention that book. I loved it when I read it over 25 years ago and it was very instrumental on my path to answers to my many questions.

[Carol]

Carol, thats an absolute bargain. Pity the import tax works out to the uk as $700 ! :shocked: British tax men should be renamed 'British thieving scumbags'.

I believe that's why the colonies went for independence Sol. :mfr_lol:

[Sol Invictus]

The price of a cup of tea was a killer I heard :lmao:

But in all seriousness, i have been getting some imports from the USA and the taxes are crippling.

A £200 item was taxed £44.

It really shows how much they are trying to get trade to halt between UK/US.

(Oh, and it was a mushroom farm kit).

[Operator]

I also read that they can only predict these up to 1 hour in advance, so I don't think it is CME's these people are hiding from.


Hi,

If I am correct it's 8 hours before a CME reaches earth ...
That is not even after a prediction but after if really happened.

Well, I am on an island. The conditions to survive are good. Except for giant
tsunamis (I am only approx. 35 meters / 115 feet above sea level).

Maybe go to Mount Ararat (Elevation: 5,137 metres / 16,854 FT). I heard there
is still a boat there which survived this before :nono:

Cheers

[Sol Invictus]

"The faster the CME, the more potentially destructive it can be, so for a worst-case scenario, we now know we have at least 12 hours to take preventative measures," according to Nat Gopalswamy of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarstorm_speed_040614.html

12 hours warning. Now, what happens if NASA don't warn any one? will any one else?

[DiVineEnvy]

"The faster the CME, the more potentially destructive it can be, so for a worst-case scenario, we now know we have at least 12 hours to take preventative measures," according to Nat Gopalswamy of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarstorm_speed_040614.html

12 hours warning. Now, what happens if NASA don't warn any one? will any one else?

Has anyone heard anymore info from Ed Dames and his team of remote viewers?

He mentioned in The Killshot that one of the telltale signs of an imminent CME might be a forced landing of a manned spacecraft. Is there a way we can check if any such craft are scheduled to be in orbit during that time frame?

[Antonia]

Sorry to be so uninformed but what ia an OME?

[DiVineEnvy]

A CME is a coronal mass ejection. Since our solar system is electrical in nature, a passing comet or asteroid can trigger the release of a stream of highly charged positive ions from the Sun. This in turn can cause havoc on the earth such as an EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) that disables all satellites, communications and electrical systems, 300+ mph winds; physical pole shift; sudden climate change; rising ocean levels and vulcanism. Anyway this is the premise of Ed Dames' Killshot.

[Sol Invictus]

The space staion would be super vulnerable to a massive CME. Imagine the panic if that got taken out and decided to come back to earth!

'Hi Mommy! I'm home!'

I can hear the chorus os 'oh ships' now.

[Tez]

My own intuition?

Whe I was eight I had a vivid nightmare that scarred my childhood.

The dream - I would 'awake' in my dream world, and be stood in shorts and flip flops on a really hot sunny day. ........ and then the sky goes almost black, the sun dips beneath the horizon and rises again really quickly and I feel sick. Then the sky 'opens' and a 'tidal wave' ............. onto the earth over the horizon.
............For eight years i dreamt it almost every other night, and would 'sleep run' ..............So what do i think?

The warning really was just the topping I didn't need. No one knew about my nightmares bar my wife, and after they told me their warning, i told them my dream.


Oh Boy..............

You just brought back my own memories of such a similar dream i had - a massive tidal wave, and i was also on the beach........nightly..........for so many many years. The dream stopped for a few years, and started again for another few years, and this has happened to me on and off now for the past 51 years.............

This just sent shivers down my back as i remembered my own dream in such similarly same detail as when i was also 8 years of age :sad:

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Sol Invictus:

Many thanks for your report. Quite a lot more specific information is needed. Please contact Kerry or myself privately. I've PMed you with our contact details.

Very best wishes, Bill

[Floyd]

I dont think this will happen, nor should we allow it to. As well intended the info might be, it is Satanic in nature and is fear based. I doubt it will come to pass but thats just my opinion. Be positive.

[Operator]

The space staion would be super vulnerable to a massive CME. Imagine the panic if that got taken out and decided to come back to earth!


Hi,

In the video "the killshot" of Ed Dames he mentions that the signaling event is when they prematurely call back
a space shuttle from it's mission. You can monitor the planned missions here:
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html

If it is only the EM component to worry about in the space station it might not be too bad ... A Faraday cage shields
electronics inside. However cables from outside to inside may be destructive ..
So it strongly depends on how much they rely on outside equipment and connections ... I imagine they will have
thought about that in advance at NASA and other space agencies.
Same goes for the Space Shuttle of course.

But according to Ed Dames there may be more than EM components only.

Cheers

[mudra]

Watch these tapes guys they give a lot of insight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtsOc0E9WbQ

This comes from this thread started by mu2143
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7670

kindness
mudra

[Tez]

Watch these tapes guys they give a lot of insight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtsOc0E9WbQ

This comes from this thread started by mu2143
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7670

kindness
mudra

Hi Mudra, yes i listened to the audio tonight, they were very interesting, very.

[piers2210]

I quit Dubai last month after many years living there because i had a vision, which has recurred several times, and was also a vision a friend of mine had when they visited me there in May this year, that the Emirates Towers and other high structures would be buried half way up with sand....it freaked me out, but i had felt it was time to leave anyway.....Dubai is full of lost souls now.

[bossyroofer]

I wonder how many of us are reciveing hologrphic dreams about this event?
I live in duchesne,utah-usa, I have been reciveing for the past three months that a warning will be given in our minds to go to high ground!! 2-3 times a week, I live around 6200 feet above sea level.
What I see is a large dark mass over 5 kilometers strikeing around the island chain that runs from alaska towards russia, impacting towards japan.
what ever is sending this message calls it the big splash!
I have ten acres and I am prepareing and I will be listening carefuly.
blessings to those who hear.

[Carol]

EMF shielding protection
http://www.cecer.army.mil/facts/sheets/FL16.html

LOW COST EMP/EMI TEMPEST SHIELDING TECHNOLOGY

The Problem

Dependence on electronic systems for military and other national security command, communications, control, computing, data processing, and intelligence continues to increase. The state-of-the-art electronics components used in most systems are susceptible to upset or damage from Electromagnetic Interference (EMI), including the Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) from nuclear weapons. Further, to ensure communications security (TEMPEST), it is often necessary to prevent compromising emanations. Many defense-related facilities require EMI, EMP, or TEMPEST protection. Historically, a metallic liner or shield has provided protection by completely enclosing the electronics systems. The conservative designs typically provide more shielding than required and are very expensive to design, construct, test, and maintain.

The Technology

The U.S. Army Construction Engineering Research Laboratories (CERL) has been experimenting with low-cost electromagnetic shielding designs for several years. These studies can be categorized as follows:

1. New Materials Development: Materials included are conductive polymers and advanced coatings for use on shield components. Materials being considered include amorphous metals and intercalated graphites. Consideration is also being given to making concrete electrically conductive.

2. Use of Inherent Shielding of Standard Construction Materials: Examples include aluminum-foil-backed gypsum board, aluminum-foil-backed insulating sheathing, metallic-clad siding, copper foils (normally used for vapor barriers), wire meshes, and sheet metal roofing.

3. Adaptation of Application Techniques: These techniques include the use of thermal spraying (primarily arc-spraying) of metals in which molten metal is sprayed in much the same manner as paint is sprayed. This metal bonds to most construction surfaces. Another technique is the use of laser welding to allow efficient welding of thinner sheet metals than conventional methods.

4. New Construction Assembly Techniques: This effort includes an investigation of seam-joining techniques for thin sheet metals, such as galvanized steel, metal meshes, aluminum panels, and copper sheets.

[Carol]

Steam Engines - home use

http://thelibertyman.com/steam_44.php
http://thelibertyman.com/steam_generator.php
1-866-965-3007

Solar Electricity Solar Greenhouse Solar Heating Solar Hot Water Passive Ice Box
http://fourmileisland.com/default.htm

[Kimmie]

Thank You, Carol !I have been doing alot of on-line research, and this topic was one I haven't found much about, yet have been interested in getting to.

[COLOR="White"][SIZE="5"]Thank You Sol Invictus, for startiung this thread ! Much of the info has been helpful for us that may not be in the areas you spoke about, yet still helpful for our preperations. I have relatives living further north in Northern Florida and Georgia, and am looking for what I will tell our Children is land for a "vacation Home/camp/cabin,etc" for all of us, hoping through good intention and the law of Attraction it will come to pass.

I was just married a year ago, and am very thankful to have my husband at my side, yet am concerned by the location of our home-South Florida. the two of us could easily leave as we are in our 50's, yet we have-between us-6 young adult children, and 5 grandchildren under 5years old. I just can't see us leaving them behind as we take off for safer places.

Since they are not awakened yet, I setting up as though they all lived with us and we are an extended family. This is not an easy feat as we live in a single wide trailer. Yet, I had a wonderful woman from England who worked for me in my Interior Design business years ago that was amazed at the sizes of homes in the USA. She told stories of the little cottage she had lived in while in England. From her stories of how happy her family life had been in that little cottage, I know ....ANYTHING IS... DO-ABLE !

Much Love to all that are doing their best, as that is all we can do. If you see their is more you can do...and you don't...you only have yourself to answer to.

Love to all, Kimme

[Elephant Man]

This is all very interesting, but where does this info come from? I'm not being negative, but throughout my time on avalon I have learned to expect serious questioning to this kind of "prophecy". :original:

peace

[KathyT]

Four independant sources that I know of have all said the same thing..
The grid is going down in 2009...Aug-Sept

Many couild say this and just be guessing or spreading rumors. I would really be thankful if you could clarify 'WHO" these four independant sources are, and where they get their data. Many of us would like something 'credible' in order to understand this.

[alyscat]

Well, I"m not sure we have to understand this.

Basically Sol Inviticus has said is that 4 people that he knows are so convinced that something is going to happen approx Sept 2009 that they've pulled up shop and moved. And C77 just seems to be saying he's getting some of the same information, too - or something similar.

That said, that's basically all there is. It falls in line with the HalfPast Human's summer of/from Hell, and a few other things.

We can either add the info to our data points, or not, as we choose. And then we make our own decisions about its validity.

Requesting additional "proof" to 4 people choosing to leave their homes and professions seems sort of fruitless to me, or that someone has said the grid will go down in 2009. After all, who is credible and who is not? That's a value judgment from each of us. Do we think George Greene is legit? Or not? How about Benjamin Fulford? If we say it's someone who works in the government, does that make it legitimate? I've read posts of "my mother works in the government in X company, and she talks about the underground bases" but is that credible, or not? If a US President says it, does that make it credible? Since I don't know every possible person who might have access to information, there's no way I can assess credibility.

Those of us who are open to seeing that this might happen are going to be likely to believe it, or at least prepare for it as a possibility. Those who are not, wouldn't believe it if it were presented on a platter, hook, line and sinker - no matter how much "proof" were given.

At least, this has been my experience over the years.

alys

[SoulSuspect]

If you stand by this info 100% and you are just not trying to get attention or spread fear then put your membership on the line. If nothing happens this was pointless fear, spread for nothing and you should bow out and leave avalon. Then if you are willing to do that , I will believe you , if not , then your weak.

One

Honor is all one really has in the end

[Carol]

Jim Mars said, "Hope for the best and plan for the worst." I think those are wise words to live by.

I've gone through this type of preparing situation before with Y2K and it was a bust.. meaning the infrastructre stayed intact but that was after thousands of hours of other peofessionals working on the situation.

We know without a shawdow of a doubt that this planet is in the process of crossing the galactic plane. Are you aware that there are radio signals in structured patterns coming from its center?

I too wonder and hope for the best. If we didn't have a 12 year old we would do nothing and just enjoy each day as it comes.. but for me personally I'm happiest when working on projects around the house. So planning to go off grid next summer is not something I would look forward to however, I would also enjoy a simplier lifestyle as well. A lifestyle more connected to the earth. So working on puting in an underground structure and an aquaponics system appeals to me at a basic level.

I also enjoy the challenge and the commradary of fellow friends who are also brainstorming on how to set these systems for the easiest cheapest way as possible. We are into simplifying and streamlining life. I have dreams of white dome homes with skylihgts and gardens with huge indoor-outdoor kitchens and libraries. These inner images are something that has been with me for a long time and push me forward to seek their expression in the world around us.

It's fun researching and sharing data and doing it with like-minded people that are here make it even more exciting.

I'm finalizing the aquaponics family system's material's list now and just making lists. Even that gives order and a sense of accomplishment which is also satisfying as is sharing whatever info comes my way with others on self-sustainability.

[alyscat]

I think this is a bit harsh, One. You can stand by the information you have at hand, and the people who moved might have gotten misinformation from their sources. So, you'd have the person who mentioned their behavior (which would be truth for them) leave the forum? I say not.

And calling names is a bit childish, don't you think? And I doubt very much whether either of the two people who posted information here care whether you believe them or not. They're just trying to share information they've been given. Let those with ears to hear, hear.

Personally, I think we probably all share what in good faith we believe to be true - even those who are trying to disseminate what others consider misinformation - and whether it becomes that way in the end or not depends sometimes on additional information way beyond our capability to either know or manipulate.

Carol's example of Y2K is a perfect example. There was a true danger there - our JIT society would have been in a mell of a hess if the computers had been unable to talk to each other. But BECAUSE we had people who were "fear mongers" IT departments went into overdrive, fixing the issue, and the whole Y2K was a non-event.

So, before any one of us tries to insinuate that someone else is trying to "get attention" or "spread fear" or that they should "leave avalon if it doesn't come to be" maybe we should look at the information and say "does it fit for us?"

If it doesn't, then we should just ignore it. If it does, then we have other choices, as Carol has shown. I find this information dovetails nicely with several other pieces of information I have. Does this mean it's true? Maybe, maybe not. How does it affect me? It means I want to go ahead and have my new home finished BEFORE the end of the summer :wink2: If it doesn't happen, will I blame the original posters, or think less of them? No. They were sharing their truth as they know it.

Honor can be found in trying to provide our friends with knowledge so that they can protect themselves, if they choose.

alys


If you stand by this info 100% and you are just not trying to get attention or spread fear then put your membership on the line. If nothing happens this was pointless fear, spread for nothing and you should bow out and leave avalon. Then if you are willing to do that , I will believe you , if not , then your weak.

One

Honor is all one really has in the end

[halebox]

Four independant sources that I know of have all said the same thing..
The grid is going down in 2009...Aug-Sept
I just pulled out my unopened 2009 calendar to write it down. The calendar says The 2009 Giant Grid Wall Calendar!

[Frank Samuel]

Here's a link to help you protect your electronic equipment from an emp attack lots of good info on the subject.
http://www.textfiles.com/survival/emp.pro






Frank, this link doesn't work. Could you research and fix it please. Mahalo, Carol

[Myra]

2009 does not feel good to me at all, it feels bad. It's different than the scary feeling :eek: I had about October potentially being a bad month. It's hard to describe in words but when I really think about 2009, it feels bad. :(

All we can do is the best we can going forward and continue preparing for possible circumstances beyond our control.

[broken arrow]

.

[Sol Invictus]

Y2k - anyone who knew computers was scratching their wondering what all the papers were hyping as it was widely known that nothing was going to happen BUT the papers and media hyped it to hell and back.

Why? because I truely do believe that in 200 they thought they were close enough to slam shut 'the end game' gate.

It didn't go down, but they damn well sure had a back up plan or four in the wings.

as for 2009... well... I said my piece and you all know my thoughts on it and I stand by what was passed onto you here.

[broken arrow]

.

[Sol Invictus]

If (as they have) they go now, they can A) get the best locations, B) get food and articles at 'normal' prices, and C0 be fully intergrated into any communities they wish to hide within / around for when TSHTF.

I agree 100% with them, and would go tomorrow if I was able to.

[broken arrow]

.

[Sol Invictus]

We will, if we heed our our hearts be safe. Last night this was discussed at the scottish ground crew meeting. We all agree that if we are meant to be safe, life will guide us; we will just have to listen.

be safe my friend, and feel free to chatter away in my PM box.

Sol.

[UnoRaza]

Blimey, cheered me up to :shocked:

Atleast I suppose it gives us some time, but move out of britain for me is a non option unfortuneatly

Apologies in advance, but these two posts had me rolling on the ground in laughter. As funny as it is not, but you brits have a way with words and a very harshly dry sense of humor!

In any event I too have had a very unusual premonition and have been trying to figure out how to get a warning out. I've been living with the dEvil, pun intended, here in Northern Cali, the land of the Redwoods, just south of Bohemian Grove and I must believe the chaos will be south of here. Here's how I saw it...

First a 'terrorist' attack will be set off in Cali, South/Central. At some future date, his passport will be found and of course it will be Iranian. (We MAKE human droids in theses parts by flying them to the Bahamas in jets and bring em back like meat-based micro computers; at least as programmable.

In any case, of course we, or 'they', as the case will be will either have Israel retaliate or will retaliate directly bringing China/Russia into the picture in full force.

The whole point is to 'cleanse' the Americas of the soon to be 'worthless eaters' and make way for a rising Phoenix to be known as the NAU. (We've got guns in these here parts and they cannot take them away without much umm ado.)

So they've little choice with all the heads and eyes opening so fast due to the Internet. The black Moorish problem too will be handled by this means.
(See post on Fullford (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=98196&postcount=128) and his role.)

Did you think they called us the 'baby boomers' due to the size of our.... population? That was just for the TV boobs and we all know how smart they are... baaabaaaa.

In any case it looks like south america or australia might be a good place to visit sometime real soon...
There are just too many reasons this will come true. look at wwII, Hitler, Dresden, Japan for a good example of the last time this tactic was used.

You KNOW what it's called: Ordo ab Chao

Benjamin Fullford you're a patsy or a liar or the next president of what remains of a glowing Canada.

[Soulmate7]

The following article from the Guardian is not exactly new nor is it 100% on topic, but I thought it suits well with this discussion thread.


Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us
· Secret report warns of rioting and nuclear war
· Britain will be 'Siberian' in less than 20 years
· Threat to the world is greater than terrorism
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver

[Crest]

Site seems to be down: Google cache:

http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:1gYhJHVU5a8J:www.textfiles.com/survival/emp.pro+http://www.textfiles.com/survival/emp.pro&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari

[mulder]

Hi everyone! Its now 2009 in Australia - we're among the first countries in the world to enter 2009!! I really hope the soldiers in all wars - including Isreal, Iraq & Afghanistan will put down their arms and realise the gift of being on Earth.
US citizens can come to Aus for 3 months via the visa waiver programme (subject to no criminal history, etc.) On the 90th day you must leave Australia, but can return the next dayfor another 3 months. Being an Island, you must fly to NZ (a 3 hour flight from Sydney/Melbourne) or to nearby asian countries (especially close to Perth). Theres no restrictions on the amount of time you can spend in Australia. If anyone wants more help in coming to Australia, please PM me. :cup:

[Patrish]

Anymore news on this?

Patrish x

[eurosceptic]

unless i am mistaken this ties in Boriskas predictions?

I am in Norfolk....mmm...:mfr_omg:

Caves in spain sound good....anyone know about Romania/Bulgaria etc and beyond?

What about southern France?....hell maybe Mongolia is really the best bet...

Many mountains and caves in that area....

[mntruthseeker]

I have to be honest and say, I have self trained in bushcraft and survival techniques, christ years ago I was trained in guerilla warfare techniques.
I can grab one of 2 bags ( grab bags ) at anytime and I can go, anywhere.

One is good for 3 days and one for 8 days without any other additions except water. And I would survive, I have done it in tests.

What worries me about the future is not where food or water is coming from for my family as I can foridge that but, outside inteference. I know people will panic, with panic, comes fear, with fear comes selfisness. People will kill for a bottle of water, a bag of food or even for the rights of your new cave dwelling.

That is what I fear. I know that in such a situation I will flick a switch and go combat mode to protect what I have.

It frightens me...


This is my problem too. I will share and run out I'm sure but if they kill me for all of it then so be it. We will just have to let go. Afterall which is better?

[Practitioner]

I just saw this thread re-emerge. I'm not sure why it is making a warning, but not intimating much about what it is. Anyone want to take a stab at the following multiple choice question?

This aforementioned monumental event is related to:

A) increased solar activity, increased seismic activity, tsunamis, even a physical pole shift; in other words, global havoc created by natural disasters

B) social pandemonium, starvation and violence due to failed economies

C) a disease pandemic wiping out large numbers especially in densely populated urban areas

D) an organized military attack (e.g., biological or nuclear) with fallout to nearby regions

* * *

I'm thinking A) is a bit unlikely for 2009, and its effects would be global not regional. So that's out.

I think B) is possible, and warning signs are already appearing.

I don't think anyone would orchestrate C) with the intention of it being regional since it would be just too difficult to control/contain. Also, it couldn't be reliably resolved within a matter of months.

D) is also possible, but I'm not sure who would do it. The so-called radical muslims aren't crazy enough to bring on a world war. Aliens? Nah.

Okay, so I'm going to go with B) social pandemonium due to economic failure, with an outside chance at D), allthewhile hoping that it's E) none of the above.

But why would it be important to go underground? ...Is it to avoid high-speed winds or hungry neighbors who are looking for you?

[henners]

Hey practitioner, last time i spoke to Sol Invictus, he said that in August/September what would happen is a precursor of 2012. The PTB would be testing HAARP and its effects on the climate. Massive winds, earthquakes etc. Underground would be the only salvation. He was quite adamant that this was going to happen and for people in those areas to prepare themselves.
Henry

[piers2210]

Sol also mentioned in another thread that there are various viruses now available which may be released, which would allow the PTB to section off the population into regions eg inside/outside the M25 ring around london. It was laughed at by those on the thread at the time, but i since saw something of this sort mentioned in the Jake Simpson interview.

[Patrish]

I read this thread in its entirity and refreshed it as I hoped there would be more concrete information - infact this was my first post!

It looks like a case of wait and see but make some sensible preperation.

Time lines change if enough people put their minds to it, I think I'll go for that senario. I refuse to let the TPTB put me into a situation of fear. We all carry the power to make a difference

much love

Patrish x

[chantellealyce]

Oh Boy..............

You just brought back my own memories of such a similar dream i had - a massive tidal wave, and i was also on the beach........nightly..........for so many many years. The dream stopped for a few years, and started again for another few years, and this has happened to me on and off now for the past 51 years.............

This just sent shivers down my back as i remembered my own dream in such similarly same detail as when i was also 8 years of age :sad:



I just read your part about dreaming of tidal waves. I have had this recurring dream since I was a child and when I lived near the ocean was constantly scanning the horizon looking for signs of an incoming wave. Was such a relief to move away but I am still getting the dreams and am approximately 4 hours inland (and also was when the dreams started when I was a child) Figure that one out.

Karen

[Swanny]

Found this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0ZPoHQbVW4&NR=1

Not saying I believe it but it does seem to fit into this thread

[Myra]

Found this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0ZPoHQbVW4&NR=1

Not saying I believe it but it does seem to fit into this thread

Interesting. Hmmmm.......

[kari]

I just read your part about dreaming of tidal waves. I have had this recurring dream since I was a child and when I lived near the ocean was constantly scanning the horizon looking for signs of an incoming wave. Was such a relief to move away but I am still getting the dreams and am approximately 4 hours inland (and also was when the dreams started when I was a child) Figure that one out.

Karen
I have experienced the same thing,dreamt it sometime in the early 1970`s
in the dream i saw a wall of water and it was high,several hundred meters high,but it came from the wrong direction,i live 4 hours from the north sea or the atlantic,and it came from that direction,that always puzzeled me,i was thinking, how can that be,it`s to long away to the coastline 4or 5 hours by car,but the dream felt so real,and when i read this post that`s what came to mind straight away "the wall of water,so incredible high"
Kari

[scanner]

:nono:It does not matter, if you believe as I do our guides will move us as required .Nothing can hurt you nothing ,we are infinite light they can remove the vehicle but not the soul which is you , I'm not worried at all . When my time comes all that matters is my family is safe because they are not old enough to understand, but will be safe I MADE SURE OF THAT. Blessings to you all. FEAR NOT FOR THEY HAVE WON :thumb_yello:

[Swanny]

Maybe this is also connected http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10910

[piers2210]

Hey Swanny that youtube vid of the nuking of London on 7th August was a bit freeky....thankfully we can rely on our alien friends to de-activate the devices.

Gotta go now, the big London football game starts in 30 mins.....

[AussieG]

I hate to be a party pooper. perhaps this link may add some balance. http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=20275

[henners]

Hey great post Gary, i listened to this man earlier and it certainly tells a different story. Mind you, at the last meeting we had in Canberra, Eddiefibbro spoke to us and told us a similar story. Very interesting.....................

Henry

[tribe of light]

been following the post.... if it matters or not.... i spend much time with my best friend base-12 mathematics and am intimate w/ the Yuga system in Hindu cosmology which btw works on the same fundamental cadence as the Mayan calendar and veiled christian prophesy, as well as wouldnt you believe it, ancient architecture such as stonehenge and the great giza pyramid but i digress...

plotting out the yuga rhythm from 1 jan 2000, a point of great spiritual import (to me at least), i have long been waiting for the date of 18 Sept. 2009 when we would enter a mini dark age "Kali Yuga" that would last until December 2010 with the final ascent out of the mess in Jan 2011.

to be honest, the longer downward cycle began late april 2007 with a midpoint on june/july of 2008. after sept. of this year, the next midpoint for the mini-kali yuga will be in may of 2010.

needless to say, i find this post of great interest given the heralding of an impending "dark time" that is to begin on the month 9 in the 9th year. 9 ever being the number of initiation.

:original:

[piers2210]

The Drunvalo vid is really fabulous, so nice to watch, uplifting even, and I REALLY hope he is right about the coming transformation.....but he is talking about a two year time line from now whereas the "event" suggested in this thread is some time this year....lets hope the 250,000 alien species he says are watching over us will "trump" anything being planned for this august or sept. Aussie G, thanks for the post.

[rhythm]

Drunvalo has said what my heart KNOWS to be true
i have been a fan of this adorable man a long time i knew
he would come up with the goods ., and here it is peeps
somthing beautifull is happening , you can feel it , cant you !
In loving service to Giarhythmmmmm .
Thank you for this heads up , namaste .

[Czymra]

So do we have any more details or clues on this one?

[TheChosen]

I see 2009 as the last year of the old. The last year where the world still ran pretty much the same as it was before. I try to enjoy it as much as I can knowing that the end is inevitable.

Just remember that the old ways are unsustainable, the crash must come (you can't have indefinate economy growth on a physically limited sphere)... I'd rather have it sooner than later. The sooner it comes the less of the earth we keep on destroying.

Don't think so much about preparing physically. Make sure you've resolved your karma before things start getting ugly. You need to have a deatached spirit in order to walk through all the chaos unscathed. Physically wise.. some silver and gold and few weeks of food should do the job. Generally in case of a collapse, it would take few weeks until the army starts rounding up everyone and re-possessing anything of value, including food. Don't think for a second they'll let you enjoy your 2 year stocks of food in your house.

[Swanny]

I think people will be burying food

[Czymra]

I was rather thinking if we have anything to substantiate what kind of breakdown we could face here. I know all the theories. Let's get real. What's in the pipe apart from the financial stuff which is obviously just a cover-up.

[Swanny]

They say 3 days without food and people will steal it, 5 days without food and they will kill for it....

[TheChosen]

You can check how it went in Iceland few months ago.

You can also take a look how things went on with Katrina (they send out the army, gather people at a central location and provide food rations ... I believe it was some stadium with Katrina). Only this time it will be the already prepared FEMA camps.

It greatly depends on which country you are talking about. USA & UK in my opinion are the countries that are least able to cope with any kind of breakdown... while third world countries are used to growing their own food and getting by without much money or modern tools and are much less dependent on the banks.

[piers2210]

Well believe me, a few weeks supplies isn't a big strain on the finances, but could keep you off the streets at the time of peak problems. I think Asia will survive far better than the UK or the USA, but i am storing food and water for a few weeks, i have my own water supply at least for a few weeks till the dead bodies are visible on the streets. Not that Richmond, London's safest borough, would go that far..right? hmm.

[Czymra]

You can check how it went in Iceland few months ago.

You can also take a look how things went on with Katrina (they send out the army, gather people at a central location and provide food rations ... I believe it was some stadium with Katrina). Only this time it will be the already prepared FEMA camps.

It greatly depends on which country you are talking about. USA & UK in my opinion are the countries that are least able to cope with any kind of breakdown... while third world countries are used to growing their own food and getting by without much money or modern tools and are much less dependent on the banks.

Well, what did happen in Iceland? It seemed all rather doable. Riots, yes, but no extreme violence.

[TheChosen]

Czymra: Yes of course it is doable. I am speaking only about the first month after the collapse. Nobody has went in modern times further than that. Things get usually resolved by then from external forces (Iceland got a bailout from the IMF and Katrina survivors were relocated to other areas of the country).

I actually lived through the collapse of Yugoslavia (took us to about point 8 in the list bellow) and have some idea of how things go on in such instances, even though I was only 10 years old at the time. It always starts with the banks

What should be realized is that the collapse doesn't happen in one day. It is a slow and painful process. This is how I envision it in a let's say certain european country:

0 day
1) Several banks collapse
2) Loads of people going at the banks but no money to be had

14 days
3) The government steps in and gives 20% of anyone's savings at the bank
4) The government says everything is ok and the rest of the banks ensure people it really is
5) 30% of the people are sent on forced vacation or simpy laid off as companies collapse

30 days
5) All the banks collapse, taking the government with them
6) Stores with food are 80% empty, its hard to come by with anything
7) Everything is rationed.. you must wait 3 hours to buy stuff (especially gas). Electricity is rationed as well
8) The borders to neighbouring contries close up

In the past around here external forces usually solve the problem. A new government is installed with a change of communism into democracy sending the angry riots at home or the IMF sends a bailout load of money or the country receives external humanitarian help. So i have no idea what happens when there is no external help on the way. and countries fall like dominoes one by one... I can only imagine from there on

http://carolynbaker.net/site/images/collapse%20photo.jpg

40 days
9) Increased confrontations between the collapsing police forces & hungry gangs
10) Major increase of crime and violence on the streets. The government desperately calls for people to remain calm
11) Stations are set up all over the country by the army where rations of bread & water is provided
12) More and more people take to the streets

50 days
13) The government, if it has not fallen already (if it has then an emergency governing body is in charge), is on the brink of losing total control
14) The army is called in and martial law is declared
15) People are kept at home with strictly need and emergency only passage through the streets
16) They are rationed food & water much like the scenes we see in african poor countries
17) Full blown revolution (it happened in most of yugoslavia). It either happens or things go directly to a fascist state.

Then I can only imagine at some point a fascist like state is declared with an authoritarian rule. Many die , some live... whoever lives is strictly controlled and sent to work for minimum wage. The system has suffered a great setback so most of the jobs have downgraded in complexity (if you were an architect of buildings you will be happy building cabins, if you were an IT engineer you may be asked to install PCs). Unemployment is in the 30-40% and people have hard time getting by basic life needs.

What this means is, storing up larger amounts of food than 1-2 months is useless. Nobody is going to leave you alone in your cozy home for longer than that.. whatever the scenario.. Once the gangs find out you have a large supply of food you are toast. There are two points of focus:

a) Noticing the first signs and relocating if possible
b) Having enough resources to live through the first shocks of disoriented masses of people trying to find some food

[piers2210]

You got MY attention Chosen....

Should i freak out now, or yesterday?

P.

[Czymra]

Here we go. Thanks TheChosen. We need a thread that is concerned with that topic I think.

Excellent blueprint. The next question is, where does the next generation step in and save the film.

[TheChosen]

That would be yesterday piers :). I am beating myself over for not buying gold when it was about 700$ at the end of november last year. I actually called up the guy and had it agreed but then things got in the way and I delayed it. Now it's 1000$ and the dollar is stronger.. and all my money is in euros.. so the next point of entry may be april (march should experience the next wave of financial distress and market drops).. hopefully people will have to sell gold bringing the price down.

But its not so bad as it seems, I think we still have few more months until the possibility of irreversible collapse happens. Right now even if some countries collapse, they will be bailed out by the IMF or other heavy weights long before things can get out of control.. thats why the necessary thing right now is to have food only for about a month (its not such a huge deal anyway.. few cans of tuna and corn can do the job :lol3:.. better be safe than sorry) ... some real paper cash under the mattress is also advisable.. in case the banks get blocked for a week or two.

I know for most people this seems like science fiction but as I already said I lived through it once already. I remember the boom years of yugoslavia when we had LOADS of money, extremely modern and high quality society and anything remotely resembling trouble was unthinkable of. But I then remember the gas rations, the empty shelves in the supermarket nearby, the lines of people trying to buy bread and the worthless money paper losing 99% of value in one month due to hyper inflation.. and of course the closed banks making lots of people lose their entire life savings (I think the government gave it to them after 15 years in small packages). I was lucky that our republic didn't face revolution... but I remember the thousands of refugees from Croatia that escaped and came to our country...

Do not worry though, this is what we came for after all. To enter into the new world ... but as always, for the new to emerge the old must die. Don't fight it, just make sure you are best prepared to ride it :)

Czymra: I don't know where we step in and save the day. I think it may be more energetic than physical. We can't face them and fight them with their tools. If we are indeed headed for a pole shift then the only important thing is staying alive (but avoiding getting chipped) and riding it so when we are on the other side we can lead whoever survives into the new era of heightened consciousness.. As much as I am a fighter I believe the smart thing to do would be to avoid direct physical confrontation. Awareness is the key , the more awareness people have the more their plan is delayed... the more our consciousness is increased.

[Czymra]

Ah, now I'm ready to sink my teeth in it.... no wait... I don't have any cans! ;)

[Delphi]

I really resonate with TheChosen's last paragraph!

However, interesting starting places for those in the UK who want to compare The Chosen's list of stages in social breakdown with what our legislators have planned for:
1. the Civil Contingencies Act 2004 (where the only piece of legislation it does not supercede is the 1998 Human Rights Act)
2. Defra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Contingencies_Act (OK so it's wikipedia but I find legalese as foreign as French!)

www.defra.gov.uk/foodrin/foodspon/default.htm

Piers, didn't you used to be a lawyer?

Please note UK legislators and PTB are not necessarily the same thing!

love to all

[piers2210]

Hi Delphi,

Yeah, I was a solicitor till i saw the light....

I'll check this out (thanks for the post)...nice to know that the government call the CC Act "reassurance of systematic planning".....

The time may be coming for me to put my knowledge of the "system" to use....wasn't it Plato who once said "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is you end up being governed by your inferiors"...

P.

[Swanny]

You got MY attention Chosen....

Should i freak out now, or yesterday?

P.
:naughty:

[mudra]

I too resonate with theChosen. Awareness is the key. We have to remember that the realm of spirit is where is starts from. Working from within is the best way to ensure our freedom. We need to change things from within and the outside world will be different. The more we agree with this world being as it is the more we fool ourselves. The whole world is within each of us. If everyone on this earth would sit and meditate for a month when we would open our eyes our surroundings would be completely different. We are much more than our bodies and minds. We are souls of extraordinary power which have been appended a meat body and made to believe that this is all we are.
The real challenge comes from within not from without.

Kindness
mudra

[Czymra]

I too resonate with theChosen. Awareness is the key. We have to remember that the realm of spirit is where is starts from. Working from within is the best way to ensure our freedom. We need to change things from within and the outside world will be different. The more we agree with this world being as it is the more we fool ourselves. The whole world is within each of us. If everyone on this earth would sit and meditate for a month when we would open our eyes our surroundings would be completely different. We are much more than our bodies and minds. We are souls of extraordinary power which have been appended a meat body and made to believe that this is all we are.
The real challenge comes from within not from without.

Kindness
mudra

Ho'oponopono away!

[Northern Boy]

I believe they will try to drive as many as possible to the large urban centers If martial law is declared they will be there within 24 hours you wont have 30 days it will be fast and quick they will not give you any time to plan so plan now . Your best bet is to get out of the cities to rural locations they are less concerned about those areas the the big urban areas If a bank holiday is declared you will have 3 days to get out take what ever you can and leave . By now you should have had a plan as to where your going and what your taking these three Videos are explaining what is going on from an insiders point of view many troops from the U. S. will not participate in this as they have issues on firing on Americans thus the need for foreign troops on U.S. soil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Yvehi97HY&feature=PlayList&p=E9C6AB4587CFF167&index=0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTQBI2029Tw&feature=PlayList&p=E9C6AB4587CFF167&index=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ_DE09MlzE&feature=PlayList&p=E9C6AB4587CFF167&index=2

[Swanny]

Here's a cheery thought, if this happens as above some of us only have a few months left here on this planet :shocked:
Maybe now is the time to do that thing you always wanted to do.
I always wanted to see Egypt but I guess that's not going to happen now, oh well maybe next time round :naughty:

[burgundia]

I really resonate with TheChosen's last paragraph!


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So do I.

[burgundia]

I believe they will try to drive as many as possible to the large urban centers If martial law is declared they will be there within 24 hours you wont have 30 days it will be fast and quick they will not give you any time to plan so plan now . Your best bet is to get out of the cities to rural locations they are less concerned about those areas the the big urban areas If a bank holiday is declared you will have 3 days to get out take what ever you can and leave . By now you should have had a plan as to where your going and what your taking these three Videos are explaining what is going on from an insiders point of view many troops from the U. S. will not participate in this as they have issues on firing on Americans thus the need for foreign troops on U.S. soil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Yvehi97HY&feature=PlayList&p=E9C6AB4587CFF167&index=0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTQBI2029Tw&feature=PlayList&p=E9C6AB4587CFF167&index=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ_DE09MlzE&feature=PlayList&p=E9C6AB4587CFF167&index=2

We are being told that a lot is going on behind the scenes... I just wonder if ordinary people in The USA have noticed anything...I guess if sth is going to begin it will begin in USA. So far it seems to be quiet in the part of Europe where I live....

[alyscat]

There's a lot of talk of it going on - martial law and so on. Sometimes I wonder if TPTB are just trying to get us used to the idea that it's going to happen.
alys

[TheChosen]

Do not also forget the possibility that the crisis is overhyped and the populace is put into great fear so they can be more accepting of the radical changes such as huge bailouts and bank nationalisations.

[Delphi]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090223/tuk-fears-over-summer-of-rage-6323e80.html

A UK policeman's view of anticipated demonstrations during the 'summer of rage'. Apparently 'known activists' are going to find it easier than usual to persuade the discontented to take to the streets, especially for the G20 meeting in April.

And if/when the demonstrations take place, the media will focus on the violence/number of arrests, not on the issues that have brought the people out.

love to all

[Czymra]

Do not also forget the possibility that the crisis is overhyped and the populace is put into great fear so they can be more accepting of the radical changes such as huge bailouts and bank nationalisations.

Most important quote of the day!

[NorthernSanctuary]

The info on this site may come in handy for the worse case scenario:
Urgent - National Emergency Leading To Martial Law

(read every word and scroll down
it could mean your life)


Months ago all the elements were in place for Martial Law in America. The secret FEMA army with Foreign troops were ready, internment camps manned and all legal preparations made including the powerful Directive 51. The plans, however, changed as our controllers elected to loot the country and implode the dollar to cause mass chaos and riots so the average person would ‘beg’ for Martial Law’ as a protection… a technique that’s worked in many countries. This would minimize revolt and civil war. Martial Law plans are still quite alive. Even during the ‘bailout’ lootings Mr. Bush threatened Congress with full Military Martial Law before sundown if the bill wasn’t passed. The ‘behind the scenes’ schemes are from our controllers who have countries and world leaders dancing like puppets on strings. They are the ‘Globalist’s’ who possess nearly all the world’s real wealth. They are elite Bankers and maneuver world events, commodity prices, stocks, start and end wars, etc. like chess pieces. Most folks don’t believe such a small powerful group exists since nationalism blinds us to see from a perspective outside our own borders. What’s happening is worldwide!

Economies (currencies) hold countries and the world together (watch ‘Money as Debt’ and ‘700 Billion is Nothing’ on this site). America’s financial recovery is impossible and even Congress was informed last March of impending total financial collapse. In that ‘secret’ meeting they were informed of 9 things. Most important to us was the U.S. economy would begin outward degeneration in Fall which it did October 1st with Mr. Paulson’s actions. Worst, however, was the collapse of the American economy around February 2009. With a bankrupt country which can’t pay any governmental services (except Military) or entitlements our country will become something never remotely imagined by most. Martial Law will be implemented as a result of bank and food store runs, mass panic, looting and all the other horrors of a collapsing society.

I hear folks being optimistic about a ‘new’ president but really, nothing has changed at all. Just a new puppet on the same strings. Our personal savings, retirements and worth is eroding to nothing. The Globalist’s are crashing our dollar to ZERO, the FEMA army is ready, the death camps are operational, massive numbers of foreign troops are here NOW and willing to do anything they are told, our borders are Militarized, people are disappearing and “the rule of law” is long gone! Please take action NOW!

*Prepare for the national emergency that will result in a deadly panic and chaos unknown in America. This will lead to brutal and controlling Martial Law very soon! It will result from the planned economic collapse. You must get ready!

*America will fall in spite of the gross denial of most citizens. This has been in the works for years. An administration transition means nothing. The bottom line agenda is the same.

*Military oppressors are ready. Control zones are in place. Many thousands of attack helicopters are on standby. How will this effect your life? What should you do? How can you survive it? What to do when your home is searched?

*You need to understand what’s happening and what you need to do when the deadly crisis hits our country. Martial Law is as certain as gravity. Prepare for Military rule… it will change your life overnight so will you be ready??

Please take the time to prepare for the coming changes and Martial Law in your world. Learn what to do and what you need to survive the "transition" under which you're going to live. It isn’t complicated but ‘must’ be prepared for.



I'll will tell you:

* What to do when Society degrades to riots, food and bank runs, etc.
* How to be left alone when others panic * What to do in Martial Law
* What decisions to make to survive the coming chaos * How to deal with controlling Military and looters during Martial Law * What to buy at the grocery store immediately and how much you will need because if you don't have it in early Martial Law you'll starve

Please take the time to prepare for the coming changes and Martial Law in your world. Learn what to do and what you need to survive the "transition" under which you're going to live.


I'm Harold Williams and I have spent my life actively serving in the military and years following the changes in this country. I want to teach you how to survive Martial Law. Use the short time left to learn how to protect you and your family with vital information in this book. I will give you all the information to prepare for Martial Law. Updates emailed as new information develops about changing events.

http://www.survivemartiallaw.com/

[NorthernSanctuary]

Sorry about that. Didn't see the price tag.:nono:

[Practitioner]

Someone emailed me this article on Fox News. It could be relevant if the event predicted is a mass solar ejection.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478024,00.html

[Swanny]

My mind is so suspicious nowadays, I saw that and straight away thought "Maybe they are using that as a cover to test out HARRP"
I blame you lot :naughty:

[Northern Boy]

Hmmm... I wonder what`s going to happen and if the recall of Panasonic's world wide employee`s are related to this . Word has it that all employee`s with the exception of Australia , New Zealand, North America and Western Europe are to be back in Japan by September of this year.The company fears an outbreak of influenza, especially BIRD FLU (hmm...)The order covers employees in Africa, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Russia,South America and Asia, excluding Singapore.

[TheChosen]

Got all my money out of the bank today (except for some change for everyday needs). Not too much but not too little either. I got a real BAD feeling when I did it. They didn't like that one bit.. it was as if I had asked them to give me their blood... it's MY money after all... or is it? With only 3% of hard currency in the system its no wonder that even a relatively small amount like mine made them look at me like that. I am thinking many people are doing just the same and they are having trouble providing all this hard cash.

Anyway I think the system has reached a point where this is a necessary precaution. Those that listened already to George Green's latest update would agree. I'd advise to take out at least 50-70% out of the bank just to be safe on both ends... so if the bank holidays strike you don't have to spend days of agony not knowing if your life savings are gone... not to mention that with hard currency in your pocket you could make a crucial move and relocate if things started getting real bad in your immediate surroundings. Another important point is that with the banks out of order... for a major currency like the EURo the demand would skyrocket.. so you could buy stuff with a much lower price. Desperate people left with only 50EUR in their pocket and a nonfunctional ATM will do pretty much anything to get their hands on real money so they can buy food from whatever shops that are still left in the system.

I still remember the days of the breakup of yugoslavia when everyone who had money in the bank lost 100% of them (got them only 10 years later and a certain percent only). I then moved to the Czech Republic and was astonished to see that people actually kept their money into the bank... It took me 2 years to build enough confidence to put mine there as well.. but the time has come to play it safe again.

[Czymra]

I've been withdrawing my monthly payments in total or large parts immediately when I got them for some time now. However, it's still living from month to month. Thanks for the advice!

[Swanny]

Any more info on this????

[Northern Boy]

I was just wondering yesterday if anyone had heard from Sol

[waitinginthewings]

I was just wondering yesterday if anyone had heard from Sol

iI just re-read this thread again, & realized that we have approx. 4mths left. Have you found your cave & stocked it yet:naughty: I have not, but would really like to, but as a woman alone, I don't feel like climbing the mountains to find one and possibly be dealing with bears without a gun. But I have stocked some food in my home......still I wonder if 300mph winds will tear our homes apart? I wonder a lot these days.....in my area, we are already having a lot of unusually high winds....strange for springtime & everyone is complaining about the constantly changing temps....so cold too.

I too am wondering about Sol? Bill from PC had posted on here for Sol to contact him with further info. I wonder if Bill connected with Sol? Perhaps Sol has gone to a safe place and is now out of communication.

Anyone else feeling vulnerable atm? I kinda feel like a sitting duck:lol3:

[Dantheman62]

............................

[BROOK]

iI just re-read this thread again, & realized that we have approx. 4mths left. Have you found your cave & stocked it yet:naughty: I have not, but would really like to, but as a woman alone, I don't feel like climbing the mountains to find one and possibly be dealing with bears without a gun. But I have stocked some food in my home......still I wonder if 300mph winds will tear our homes apart? I wonder a lot these days.....in my area, we are already having a lot of unusually high winds....strange for springtime & everyone is complaining about the constantly changing temps....so cold too.

I too am wondering about Sol? Bill from PC had posted on here for Sol to contact him with further info. I wonder if Bill connected with Sol? Perhaps Sol has gone to a safe place and is now out of communication.

Anyone else feeling vulnerable atm? I kinda feel like a sitting duck:lol3:

Sitting duck is exactly how I feel....
http://www.mbedard.com/ProdImages/SittingDuck1.jpg
But there are only so many places underground...watcha gonna do :shocked:

[burgundia]

The only thing I can do is to take my two cats and go to the basement of my building. i am not going to abandon them and look for a d...n cave.

[burgundia]

I'll ask him about this and let you know.

Please do! And send him him greetings from us here. We remember him.

[scanner]

Do as I am going to do find a good bar and get p*st sorry drunk out of your scull and have some very naughty fun if you get my drift :naughty:, not much left after a 300 mile an hour wind:nono: . They suffer 100 mile tornados in the US look whats left :nono:???? any ladies want to join me ???:mfr_lol:

[Swanny]

I'm off to Spain to watch the F1 then head for the hills :thumb_yello:

[burgundia]

I'm off to Spain to watch the F1 then head for the hills :thumb_yello:

If you are going to head for the hills get one of those F1 cars...:lmfao:

[Waterman]

Wonder what will happen? Whatever it might be, there seems to be something constantly happening. Almost to the point of being numbed by the energy of something "constantly" happening. A mind numbing apathy that creates "the slide", you can see in the eyes. That glazed stare look of absence because no one's home.

HELLO, anyone out there?

And even though diabolical events happen nearly daily like falling dominoes, it seems like this is the dark before the dawn, the breath before the battle. And it may well be, at least from the view I'm getting.

There is a good possibility according to a leading medical doctor and researcher from Baylor School of Medicine that things actually could become quite intense this fall. I wonder if this was why they headed for the hills. We'll know soon enough, unless ooops another Burisch timeline pops up. Whew, a lot to think about.

Check my blog for the interview with that doctor about the flu this fall.

[Zeddo]

Wonder what will happen? Whatever it might be, there seems to be something constantly happening. Almost to the point of being numbed by the energy of something "constantly" happening. A mind numbing apathy that creates "the slide", you can see in the eyes. That glazed stare look of absence because no one's home.

HELLO, anyone out there?


I can't remember his name but he is Hopi and was giving a talk. I have to admit to putting a lot more credence into what the Hopi Elders say then the myriad "seers". "channelers" etc that are currently out there feeding us this dearth of mind-numbing and physically paralysing "info".
Back to the point. He was explaining the changes that must come about and how people will be running for cover, crying out to their gods for salvation etc etc... The point I want to share of what he had to say which really was in tune with how I feel is this. "If your heart is right, if your spirit is right with all that is around you, nothing will harm you. You will have the protection you need. You will be in the right place at the right time even if it is in the middle of a major conflagration. You will have nothing to fear."
Those were not the exact words, but definitely on those lines. I will look for the video and post the link.
The only advice I have is forget the caves, forget the running, yes stock up on water and food - that is common sense - look within and see where you are at in your spirit.
Oh yes, get that book out the library by Ekkard Toll, The New Earth and read that. The best thing you can possibly do right now is to work on your vibrational levels, and check if you are in tune or not. Is your ego master or are you connecting with spirit?
Finally, remember we fight not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers seated in high places (Ego ?). The only way to fight back is to be spiritually connected. Another tip is to stop reading all of this negative stuff and to start being positive. Let the rats run, be aware that you are safe wherever you are. What is the worst that can happen? Nothing, because then you are not liberated from this heavy density existence. Personally, I look forward to "going home" and being free of this decaying form I currently reside in. DO NOT ALLOW FEAR IN !!! That is so important. We are not meant to fear, we are meant to be free entities but we allow manipulation to blind us....that's for a different post.

Cheers

Z

[TheChosen]

It's been so quiet lately. The financial crisis has entered an illusionary recovery, many seem to have fallen asleep again and go on with their daily routines like nothing is going on.

Is it just me or something doesn't feel right AT ALL. I've been getting doomsday scenarios in my dreams and astral like never before and yet here on the physical everything seems fine. It is somehow too quiet... something is wrong and I don't know what it is.

[Waterman]

If you are serious I have found out about three groups in the southwestern part of Colorado that are preparing by building sustainable communities.

One of them has a contact that posts on this forum. If you are interested just let me know.

[Unified Serenity]

Is anyone in N. Florida, Georgia or North Carolina who is involved in sustainable communities? We have been stocking up, and this may be just a precursor to the major stuff coming in the next couple of years, but I definately feel that September is very important, but for different spiritual reasons which I won't go into. I highly resonate that the most important thing is to be focused on attunement to the highest vibrational love you can manage, DO NOT fear, and to wisely have at least 2 to 3 months of food, water preparations, and at least 6 months of medicine you may need.

[burgundia]

The last message of the late pope John Paul II to humanity was : Do not fear....

[henners]

Hey Zeddo, this is the Hopi Prophecy you were referring to.

Hopi Blue Star Blue Kachina Prophecy

An ancient Hopi Indian prophecy states, “When the blue star Kachina makes its appearance in the heavens, the Fifth World will emerge”. This will be the Day of Purification. The Hopi name for the star Sirius is Blue Star Kachina. It will come when the Saquasohuh (Blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask.

“In the final days we will look up in our heavens and we will witness the return of two brothers who helped create this world in the birthing time. Poganghoya is the guardian of our North Pole, and his Brother Palongawhoya is the guardian of the South Pole. In the final days the Blue Star Kachina will come to be with his nephews and they will return the Earth to its natural rotation which is counter clockwise. (1)

This fact is evidenced in many petroglyphs that speak of the Zodiac, and within the Mayan and Egyptian pyramids. The rotation of the Earth has been manipulated by not so benevolent Starbeings. The twins will be seen in our North Western skies. They will come and visit to see who still remembered the original teachings flying in their Patuwvotas (2), or flying shields. They will bring many of their star family with them in the final days.


The return of the Blue Star Kachina who is also known as Nan ga sohu will be the alarm clock that tells us of the new day and a new way of life, a new world that is coming. This is where the changes will begin. They will start as fires that burn within us, and we will burn up with desires and conflict if we do not remember the original teachings, and return to the peaceful way of life.http://www.wolflodge.org/bluestar/h_red_dwarf_02.jpg

Not far behind the twins will come the Purifier, The Red Kachina who will bring the Day of Purification . On this day the Earth, her creatures and all life as we know it will change forever. There will be messengers that will precede this coming of the Purifier. They will leave messages to those on Earth who remember the old ways.

http://goldenagetoday.com/images/articles/martin_prophecyrock.jpg
The messages will be found written in the living stone, through the sacred grains, and even the waters. ( Crop circles have been found im ice ) From the Purifier will rise forth a great Red Light. All things will change in their manner of being. Every living thing will be offered the opportunity to change from the largest to the smallest thing.

Those who return to the ways given to us in the original teachings, and live a natural way of life will not be touched by the coming of the Purifier. They will survive and build the new world. Only in the ancient teachings will the ability to understand the messages be found.

It is important to understand that these messages will be found upon every living thing, even within our bodies,( our DNA ?) even within a drop of our blood. All life forms will receive the messages from the twins…. Those that fly, the plants, even the rabbit. The appearance of the twins begins a period of seven years will be our final opportunity to change our ways. Everything we experience is all a matter of choice. Many will appear to have lost their souls in these final days. So intense will nature the of the changes be that those who are weak in spiritual awareness will go insane, for we are nothing without spirit. They will disappear, for they are just hollow vessels for any thing to use. Life will be so.

Only those who return to the values of the old ways will be able to find peace of mind. For in the Earth we shall find relief from the madness that will be all around us. It will be a very hard time for women with children for they will be shunned, and many of the children in these times will be unnatural. Some being from the Stars (starseeds) some from past worlds, some will even be created by man in an unnatural manner and will be soulless (super soldiers perhaps).(3)
Many of people in this time will be empty in Spirit they will have Sampacu. No life force in their eyes.

As we get close to the time of arrival of the Purifier there will be those who walk as ghosts through the cities, through canyons they will have constructed in their man made mountains. Those that walk through these places will be very heavy in their walk, it will appear almost painful as they take each step for they will be disconnected from their spirit and the Earth. After the arrival of the twins, they will begin to vanish before your eyes like so much smoke. Others will have great deformities, both in the mind and upon their bodies. There will be those who would walk in the body that are not from this reality, for many of the gateways that once protected us will be opened, there will be much confusion. Confusion between sexes, and children and their elders.

Life will get very perverted, and there will be little social order, in these times many will ask for the mountains themselves to fall upon them just to end their misery. Still others will appear as if untouched by what is occurring. The ones who remember the original teachings and have reconnected their hearts and spirit. Those who remember who their mother and father is. The Pahana who have left to live in the mountains and forest. When the Purifier comes we will see him first as a small Red Star which will come very close and sit in ourheavens watching us.http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_N21PRLoR070/Se06qdtzSbI/AAAAAAAAACw/2pB_BDnhpSw/s320/Blue+Star+Kachina+-+the+eye+of+God.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_N21PRLoR070/Se06qdtzSbI/AAAAAAAAACw/2pB_BDnhpSw/s320/Blue+Star+Kachina+-+the+eye+of+God.jpg) Watching us to see how well we have remembered the sacred teachings. This Purifier will show us many miraculous signs in our heavens. (hopefully not project bluebeam) In this way we will know Creator is not a dream. Even those who do not feel their connection to spirit will see the face of creator across the sky. Things unseen will be felt very strongly.

Many things will begin to occur that will not make sense, for reality will be shifting back. We will receive many warnings allowing us to change our ways from below the Earth as well as above. The one morning in a moment, we will awaken to the Red Dawn.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/434154223_cf366112b3.jpg
The sky will be the colour of blood, (sol's thread talked about this very thing) many things will then begin to happen that right now we are not sure of their exact nature. For much of reality will not be as it is now. There will be many strange beasts upon the Earth in those days, some from the past and some that we have never seen…. The nature of mankind will appear strange in these times we walk between worlds and we will house many spirits even within our bodies, after a time we will again walk with our brothers from the Stars, and rebuild this Earth, but not until the Purifier has left his mark upon the Universe.

Nothing living will be untouched , here or in the heavens. The way through this time it is said is to be found in our hearts, and reuniting with our spiritual self. Getting simple and returning to living with and upon the Earth and in harmony with her creatures. Remember that we are the caretakers, the fire keepers of the Spirit. Our relatives from the star are coming home to see how well we have faired in our journey.

May 20 2003,
Recently a new Red Star was discovered while a blue comet is already in the sky, 7 years after comet Hale-Bopp disappeared.

CONSIDER; Acts 2:20 “ The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord Comes:”

May 31, 2003 In fullfilment of prophecy, the sun appeared over the middle east and Europe as a “sackcloth of ashes” and “refused to give her light” in a rare “annular” or ring of fire” eclipse .
It seems the final Traditional Hopi and Holy Bible prophecy cycle of destruction has finally begun!

The most recent Hopi Prophecy updates from their elders

“While we can see still see the Twins, the comet up there with the two tails (Hale-Bopp).. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_mistic/leyendahopi12_01.jpg (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_mistic/leyendahopi12_01.jpg) …. In the sky, we still have time to change our patterns, and change our ways. When we no longer see it in the sky it will be the sign that we have very little time left…….perhaps 18 months or less before the Purifier returns. The Purifier will appear as the Red Kachina, maybe that means it will appear red in the telescopes that the scientists use. It will remain almost in one place for a long time. Like an eye watching us. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_mistic/leyendahopi12_06.jpg (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_mistic/leyendahopi12_06.jpg)

(1) This means that the North Pole will be changed into the South Pole. Scientifically this can only be explained by the fact that the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction, together with a huge disaster of unknown proportions.
(2) some of them made a patuwvota (shield made of hide) and with their creative power made it fly through the air. On this many of the people flew to a big city, attacked it, and returned so fast no one knew where they came from. Soon the people of many cities and countries were making patuwvotas and flying on them to attack one another. So corruption and war came to the Third World as it had to the others.
(3) Supersoldiers are usually heavily augmented, either through eugenics , genetic engineering, cybernetic implants implants, drugs, brainwashing, an extreme training regime (usually with high casualty rates, and often starting from birth or a young age), or other scientific and pseudoscientific means,like mind upload or a combination of any of those.

Now, i'll leave this for you to ponder. There is lots of info out there about previous civilisations, and for those who think that we were the first, you are kidding your self. Following, i will present some more info on what has been discovered.
Henry

[elsinorelore]

Woe!!! Thanks very much for this Henners!

[Zeddo]

Great post thanks Henners !!!

[Noela]

Zeddo - I resonate with your post entirely (15/5). "You will be in
the right place at the right time". There is nothing to fear. It is
primarily a spiritual preparation.

And thanks Henners for your entlightening post - something to
come back to and take in fully.

:thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yello::thumb_yell o:

[Swanny]

My destiny is set, I do not fear the reaper :original:

[Christo888]

Hey Henners... how are ya? I have a couple of thoughts about the Hopi prophecy's.

If one is standing on the equator then the Earth is already spinning counter clockwise, and if one is above the North pole looking down at Earth then the earth is rotating counter clockwise; and if one is below the South pole looking up at Earth then the Earth is rotating clockwise??? If one were to spin themselves clockwise then does this reverse the ageing process??

Also, if one were to recharge/polarize their own North and South magnetic alignments of their body then they become re energized, and rejuvenated. The iron in our blood rapidly flips polarity from North to South already within the pulse.

Do you see any correlation of this as a parallel within the Hopi prophecy?

Also, I noticed that the 'HP' (Hewlett Packard) brand corporate logo seems to imitate the Phi symbol or the letters of HOPI. And oddly enough the 'Windows' logo also correlates to the 'Four Corners' complete with proper coloring of Red, Blue, Green, Gold. Red and Blue are DNA markers, Green is for Chlorphyl used in photosynthesis (transformation of life through chaos), and Gold is an end result of an alchemical process.

The Hopi prophecy reads to me more of a recipe or instruction manual for alchemy than actual literal events, but the same with the bible too.

And even more interesting is how Shamans receive information or formulas for medicine or healing methods with plants, as drugs are plants and the right combination in the right form and dosage becomes miraculous! The formulas are given to the Shamans in strange language, images, and symbols that then must be interpreted and then literally worked out into a formula for use in this dimension.

So I wonder how much is a 'recipe' and how much is literal?

[Noela]

Re-reading this thread - and in particular, the recurring dream
Sol Invictus had - I wondered if he has considered that
in that dream he may be living a past life experience.

I went to a lecture years ago by a noted German psychologist

(Dr. Bruno Embertin) who said, from his experience, a great
many of our dreams are past life experiences. He also said
the same was true of many of our waking experiences.

I personally believe there is a great deal of truth in this -
borne out to me by my own experience, and also
by the astrology work I do.

It is certain worth considering as another tool in
interpeting our dreams, and our daily life experiences.
Certainly I believe that many of the people I am
meeting at this time are friends from previous lives.
It's not something I feel I have to go into in any detail,
but it just lends another dimension to life.

[Waterman]

This is reposting something I just wrote in another thread but thought it might actually fit this thread better.

According to the World Health Organization 11.000 people have caught the H1n1 Flu, of whom 65 died. That is a .8% mortality rate. In other words less than one percent die from the virus.

Notwithstanding the fact that of that 11,000 many just acquired the virus and have just begun their illness the less that one percent mortality rate is more than likely low. However, that does not appear to be more morbid than ordinary flu, and we would not want to dismiss this flu if that is the case.

One discouraging note about this event is that the largest pocket of infection outside North America is in Japan with 249 people infected, and it appears to be spreading rapidly. Large clusters of H1N1 infections have also been confirmed in Britain and Spain. Should others areas outside of North America experience this type of infection rate, you should expect WHO to raise the level to Phase 6 from the existing level Phase 5.

As we watch this issue all thought must be ever sober about the possibility of it morphing into a more deadly virus and resurfacing this fall.

Note: If you are following this you might want to visit my blog.


Click for link to article.
http://simplyyourhealth.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/straits-times.gif?w=500&h=80 (http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/World/Story/STIStory_380077.html)

[alyscat]

I think the number who have had it is much higher. I've read of people going to hospitals where they see signs in the ER - if you have the flu, or symptoms of the flu, go home. Who can they get an accurate number of infected if they send people home and don't notify the CDC?

Wasn't someone going to check in on SOL (who is still on at least one other forum) and let us know how he's doing? I miss him <G>

[Dantheman62]

I think the number who have had it is much higher. I've read of people going to hospitals where they see signs in the ER - if you have the flu, or symptoms of the flu, go home. Who can they get an accurate number of infected if they send people home and don't notify the CDC?

Wasn't someone going to check in on SOL (who is still on at least one other forum) and let us know how he's doing? I miss him <G>.............................................

[Noela]

Regarding Sol - If you are in touch, Dan, you might
pass on my thoughts regarding his dream
if you think it at all helpful. I feel for him
suffering like that all the time - and maybe -
just maybe - the terrors of this dream
are all over - and not in the future at all

I send him my love and good wishes

[viking]

This story seems to fit in with one of Sols post!!! If there was a solar storm the grid would go down....

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/waylandsmithy/comments.html

Sols post here...
"The food expert Steph said 'food will be extremely short and hardship and starvation is going to be very common. Thats what they want us to calculate'.

The Nuclear tech said 'electrical systems are going to go down on a global scale, the grid will die. Thats whats in the pipe line'.

The telecommunications expert said 'all forms will be off. nothing, not satellites, no GPS, nothing will work. Thats what we are planning for'.

The nurses said 'our people are planning for some thing - we have had massive over stocks and not an eyebrow has been raised'.

make of it what you will, but I for one am deadly serious about being very close to a location in those months to dip off under ground at a fair pace."

viking

[KathyT]

I am a researcher, for myself. I am very interested in finding other threads (including other forums) where individuals with similar ‘warnings’. I am asking everyone to help me by sharing knowledge of other posts along this line. I will collate the messages so that all can review.

So we have Sol Invictus saying “The warning is thus; In 2009, end of August, start of september and lasting for 3 months, maybe a bit less, is a 'coming event' that has made some very serious professional people take their lives and uproot and move entirely out of the UK to areas more remote.

Shelter Tech is reporting the governments have been preparing for a Solar Impact on 08-22-2009. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message809399/pg1 I have a collated post of that thread here: http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/ShelterTech.html

Miriam Delicado said “Now, the other year that I’m concerned with, and I’ve had great concern over since 1988, is not 2012 as people have often asked me. 2012, to myself, in the knowledge that I’ve been given by these beings, is not a specific date for me to be even thinking about. However, the year 2010 is. So what is coming in 2010? I’m often asked this. And all I know is that there is the potential of great destruction all over the Earth.”

We have Hidden Hand saying “There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater.”

We have Ed Dames warning of the “Kill Shot”, a major solar emission.

Please, if anyone else knows of individuals stating knowledge of an imminent event, PLEASE post it here or send me a private chat.

I’m not saying it’s coming, but if it’s the end of 2009, there really is little time for people to prepare. All of us would like to discount this. However, I believe doing the research, pulling together information of a similar nature is of value.

Please help me with the research.

[mntruthseeker]

Well, I survive living on oxygen so without power I am a goner for sure.

I am leaving this in Gods hands and will not fear what he has in plan for me.

I also think that going underground is not the answer no matter how they fixed it up. I have no compassion for any of those that have the "ticket" to move underground in their hands. The rest of us have greater plans in the world we will be entering.

[Steve_A]

Hi Myplanet2,

Underground in London is the only way to travel. There are people going underground every day!

Best regards,

Steve


Underground in London isn't something I'd plan on.

A preponderance of predictions to date have a water/flood/coastal event component.

And water finds any available hole.

Underground in low lying areas is asking for trouble, if you ask me (and nobody did:zip:)

Oh, and thanks for the heads up, Sol. Every data point goes into the mix to form up likelihoods. It all helps.

[Swanny]

I don't believe any of this will happen in aug/sept
Everyone is safe to enjoy themselves :thumb_yello:

[TraineeHuman]

If any of Anon’s announcement is true or partly true, nobody will believe it without considerably more detail. As many posters have pointed out, so far there are unfortunately many holes, or likely holes. So, one reason why we need more detail is to be able to “cross off” many apparent implausibilities.

Another question here is, why didn’t Anon contact Kerry and Bill confidentially and give them details? We know that K&B are thorough researchers, and would check out such a story in the same way as professional journalists would. Because Anon apparently hasn’t contacted them, it unfortunately seems plausible that the story wouldn’t stand up to such checks.

Also, without more details it apparently becomes fear-mongering without sufficient justification. It's very right to feel fear if there's an angry bull charging towards you and (you know that) you're in the same paddock. But once you're outside the paddock, there's no justification for fear, however nasty and strong the bull may look.

[KathyT]

Another question here is, why didn’t Anon contact Kerry and Bill confidentially and give them details? We know that K&B are thorough researchers, and would check out such a story in the same way as professional journalists would. Because Anon apparently hasn’t contacted them, it unfortunately seems plausible that the story wouldn’t stand up to such checks.

.

Anon Shelter Tech may not even know about Kerry and Bill. His post was not on the Avalon forum, it was on the Godlike Productions forum, a very, very active forum http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message809399/pg1

[viking]

Just wondered where is Sol ... anyone know?

Also what happened to the outcome with regards to Bill Ryan asking him to pm him about this topic?? (post number 71)



viking

[mudra]

Just wondered where is Sol ... anyone know?

Also what happened to the outcome with regards to Bill Ryan asking him to pm him about this topic?? (post number 71)



viking
You might like to Pm Greybeard about Sol as I think he kept in contact with him .

Loving kindness
mudra

[viking]

You might like to Pm Greybeard about Sol as I think he kept in contact with him .

Loving kindness
mudra

Thanks Mudra will do ....

viking

[Ammit]

So,, did anyone find out if Sol was ok?, seems to have gone very quiet.

[viking]

Yes I was thinking the same thing??

I posted this a few weeks back..
Quote:
Originally Posted by viking View Post
Just wondered where is Sol ... anyone know?

Also what happened to the outcome with regards to Bill Ryan asking him to pm him about this topic?? (post number 71)


??


viking

[scanner]

Yes I was thinking the same thing??

I posted this a few weeks back..
Quote:



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viking

Don't shoot me a I'm just the messenger, as far as I'm aware Sol was asked to leave. Other sites as well, due to his, shall we say personallity clashes with some Mods. Sol had a big story to tell somewhat forcefull at times , sorry to be a damp squib.

rgards all

[Ammit]

Oh, ok. Well i will miss his comments, after all we are all entitled to our oppinions even if they are not agreed with.

[Swanny]

He was still around on another forum that can not be named a few weeks ago. :zip:


I had forgotten about the end of aug stuff :naughty:
Cant be aresd to move so looks like I'm here at sea level :boat:

[lemon_sky88]

Let It come! In my opinion we need escalation. We the people of this mother ship Planet Earth need this to happen. I don't want anything ever trying, hard, bad to happen to anyone ever I care for everyone! It remind of that country son "Lord I wana go to heaven, but I don't wana go tonight". Ask, when is a good night? day? ever? I think this is the point. I chose to say thank the universe for this warning. I will do what I can to prepare and help anyone I can. We are in the PTB's End of days. They will end but we will not for we are the light. with out us they would have no path on which to tread. For without light how can there exist the dark? I feel the book "The Road" is appropriate to sub jest. It has been a really inspiring novel to helping to prepare me to overcome fear and be the light. :cheers:

Its Go Time :boxing:

[lemon_sky88]

O and Ive decided every time I reply to a thread where Swanny is present Im gona through this in :rasta:

right on:thumb_yello:

[scanner]

He was still around on another forum that can not be named a few weeks ago. :zip:


I had forgotten about the end of aug stuff :naughty:
Cant be aresd to move so looks like I'm here at sea level :boat:

Sorry Swanny, Sol was put out of thier too. I agree everyone has an opinion but how you present is another matter.

[Swanny]

Shhhh you'll get banned if you speak of it :zip: :wink2:

[Swanny]

Just bumping this thread.
It's now the end of sept and nothing has happened :smoke:

[viking]

Yep......A big nowt....

Perhaps our mass conciousness has taken us on a different path!!:winksmiley02:

viking

[swordsmith]

Just bumping this thread.
It's now the end of sept and nothing has happened :smoke:

Is IT??:yikes: I'm still in August, is this a timeline thing? or a :smoke: glitch. ?

[viking]

Is IT??:yikes: I'm still in August, is this a timeline thing? or a :smoke: glitch. ?

I think Swanny meant end of august!! or perhaps too much wacky backy!!! ha ha...

viking

[Swanny]

Opps meant to say august :naughty:

No wacky backy here just loads of dead animals :wink2:
Maybe it's time for me to start smoking carrots :smoke:

[scanner]

Opps meant to say august :naughty:

No wacky backy here just loads of dead animals :wink2:
Maybe it's time for me to start smoking carrots :smoke:I think you've bee walking in too many crop cycles boy

[micjer]

9-9-9 is yet to come. Will be watching for something that day.

[Swanny]

Oh yea I forgot about good old 9-9-9 :thumb_yello:

[sassydr8n]

So far so good...we hope. Again, always a good thing to be prepared.

Second thought: there is no such thing as coincidence :wink2: - admittedly, we have been smacked in the face with this a few times over the past few months.

My husband and I might be sitting in the Southern Hemisphere - however, being a previous British colony - we do have a lot of friends and family sitting in the UK. As I only joined PA very recently, coming across this thread this morning takes me back to my second thought (see above :shocked:). Another thing - we have had the strangest feeling in the pit of our stomachs for the past 2 months - something like when the boss needs to chat and you don't know if it means you're being promoted or being fired??!!!). And no - it's not a stomach bug :naughty: But most definitely a feeling of apprehension (NOT FEAR!:mad3:).

I have now sat and gone through the entire thread. Here are a few thoughts and some input based on comments by other members as I went along:

Regarding the Hopi prophecy - also see the work done by Paul Laviolette. His 'Earth under Fire' documentary does fit in quite well with the prophecy. What IS interesting is the scientific as opposed to 'conspiracy' approach. It also rings quite true after reading Sol Invictus' dream (Goosebumps much?) and does bring some food for thought regarding the use of the HAARP system.

The information mentioned recently on Project Camelot by a woman regarding her husband's concern RE: solar activity affecting electricity/grid supply...fits. Again, it won't be localised...

Also - if it hits the UK, how long will it take to radiate out to the rest of the world. Anything affecting the UK - even just from an economic point of view - WILL impact globally. The UK or USA growls and our commodity prices sky-rocket. Remember one thing - it is irrelevant whether it hits the UK or the USA first - the outcome will be the same. Also, does it matter where you are? So many 'lesser important' countries aren't even mentioned - yet aren't we all the same. Why would the impact of these situations be more dire for a specific country but not for another? If that doesn't tell you something, you've missed the 'WORLD' part of NWO.

We have been looking around at sustainable communities and in this lies my concern - the community is concerned with being vegan, self-sustainable and off the grid - which is fantastic, don't get me wrong. What will they do when the military comes past wanting to take control of this community? People - sorry to say but it WILL be the choice between going quietly or fighting for yourself. So many people state that they will fight to resist an H1N1 vaccination! What about defending everything else. We often get strikes in our inner cities - mostly regarding wage/labour disputes and so forth. I wish you could see the damage done to property post-march...and then it was a moderately peaceful march:sad: What would a full blown riot by hungry people be like?

Now on a more somber note: here are a few things that I have picked up in the past month as a new member which saddens me greatly as well. It screams loud and clear in this thread but has shown up all over the forum. Furthermore, these are MY opinions based on MY observations and in no way am I trying to step on toes either.

1. Spiritual awareness at this point is the way to go, yup, good ol' contentment. Preparing on the physical side, also not a bad thing. Always remember - you are awake...be ready for any eventuality. My observation of late has been rather grim. For a forum aimed at the 'woken up', I see plenty of negativity and distrust and I have to wonder. Isn't it advisable to assimilate as much information as possible and then observe to see what falls in place before behaving like the people that call us conspiracy theorists?

2. Being a forum intended for a supposed open minded group of people - a place to formulate and give voice to ideas and opinions, there are a substantial amount of 'voices' either bullied around the playground or told to go and play elsewhere. This is a concern, especially as we have such few avenues to express these thoughts. I doubt if most members here have fully awakened support structures in place,(I know we don't), yet some thoughts seem to not fit with the basic groove and are therefore not welcomed or discarded.

ARE WE NOT TO PROVIDE A FORUM OF CONSCIOUSNESS? Are we not 'dumbed' down enough by the outside world?

I welcome the original post and subsequent info provided by Sol Invictus. Thank you for all the additional information provided by all the other members. I will welcome and use ANY information posted along similar lines. NOT because I believe it wholeheartedly, but most definitely because I'm not willing to disregard it either.

Had to get rid of this 2 cents...it was weighing me down:thumbdown:

Change your mind, change the world - David Icke

Greetings friends.

[Argante]

"Listen up people - Sol/Egg were the same person!

His fear- mongering orginal posts have been discredited on so many levels on other forums!

"When the sky turns red.." is a blantant rip off of an old Hopi prophecy, his "supposed" evidence of pictures drawn by a young child showing such events have been disproven."

"All of his "experiences" have been plagarised from other sources [which can all be found on the net with a little digging]

Sol/Egg have ulterior motives..and mankinds welfare is CERTAINLY not one of them!

Move on, forget this blatant disinfo, it's a fairy story"

[micjer]

several years ago,a seer ( a very simple man, who lived in the south-west of Poland, he's been dead for several years now) warned about a great flood in September 2009. His first prophecy ( about a flood that started 7/7/1997 in Poland) came true. He said in that prophecy that when three sevens would come together His home town would be afflicted by a devastating flood, and so it happened. His next prophecy says that when three nines come together even a more devastating flood will afflict his home town. The next date with three nines is september 9, 2009. His home town is in a mountain valley in the sout-west of Poland , very far from the sea.

Thanks for the heads up on egg/sol. This however is a different prophesy that burgundia posted.

[Swanny]

Not looking good for this prediction :naughty:

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by burgundia
several years ago,a seer ( a very simple man, who lived in the south-west of Poland, he's been dead for several years now) warned about a great flood in September 2009. His first prophecy ( about a flood that started 7/7/1997 in Poland) came true. He said in that prophecy that when three sevens would come together His home town would be afflicted by a devastating flood, and so it happened. His next prophecy says that when three nines come together even a more devastating flood will afflict his home town. The next date with three nines is september 9, 2009. His home town is in a mountain valley in the sout-west of Poland , very far from the sea.



Massive floods South in Poland June 2009

http://www.polskieradio.pl/thenews/national/artykul110744_floods_in_southern_poland_.html


This are videos from the tragic water flood that came in Southern Poland and which has destroyed many towns and village's. :-( (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=DA06C628679895A0&search_query=Myslenice+flood)

[burgundia]

yes, but it was supposed to be in a bit different region, and it was supposed to be much greater than the flood of 1997, which was the greatest and most devastating in the recorded history. however maybe something changed along the way....

[Ammit]

Well, August and early September have gone, did it happen? did I miss it?
I do have to say that the majority of predictions dont seem to surface and if they do, it is a smaller event then predicted.