soul mate

[jazzgad]

there is interesting blog by Ellie Crystal and this topic haunts me all my life
I see now illusion of romantic love as a one of many ways that society control us to start family and procreate so our children could be food cannon in future wars but what about what Ellie calls help by our soul mate in finishing our spiritual work ,what you guys think ?
the reason I ask is that I m in great relationship easy and stress free but
soul mate she is not ,more like best friend .

the other topic I want to touch is ,this is very enlightened compared to general population crowd ,but most posts are about surviving those great
earth changes when my intuitive feeling and Ellie talks about it all the time also is that this time is for closure and transcendence while serving others in those difficult times ,not so much survive at all cost .


that is her post
Grid Attraction 2009

Fear and anxiety keep you grounded in the game. Love lifts your energies to experience in higher frequency, it's why most people seek a soul connection. In 2009 many people will meet soul mates and make strong connections as the game plays out. Prepare and clean up your issues if you want to attract that person - not because you say you do, but because it could happen next year. Don't meditate on it. Don't use tools or rituals. No crystals. No praying. No candle work. Move beyond that. If you have time and energy for a relationship, that person will come by grid attraction. Keep yourself free and available. Know if you are good in relationships. Lighten up if you want a soul mate to finish up the program. If your personal life is too complicated, it probably won't happen, because you are not looking for a soul mate - your soul is probably tired and seeking a caretaker which is not what I am talking about. I am referring to the person who comes in to help you finish the work you came here to do as the program evolves and you are catalysts for each other - not to mention having out-of-this-world sex!

[goody8504]

wow. i hope it's true. i haven't been a relationship for quite some time. not because i don't want to, but because out of every potential girlfriend over the last....5..6 years? wow..over the last few years, there was never that connection. i new i would not be able to give it my all and it would never work out in the long run. that blog you posted is very uplifting and gives me a lot of hope. it's about time i meet a likeminded person of the opposite sex face to face rather than over the computer. how great would it be for so many people like myself to finally find their soulmake? and what a great experience it would be for the planet as a whole. nice post:thumb_yello:

[ENdJOY]

total fantasy...the "legend" of soul mates, is a perversion of the relationship between the body and soul... yes...that makes sense when you consider the words...soul mate eh?

the New Agers latched onto this innate desire in humans, to be whole, by discovering one's soul (mate) and turned it into a money making proposition, You give them your money and they gaze at the stars, into a crystal ball or read the cards...and tell you about your soul mate... you buy it :lol3:

[isotelesis]

There are "soul mates" in the sense of consonant harmonies in personality, but the distinction of individual separation becomes fuzzier as the soul progresses, we are facets of eachother, and eventually we all return to our holopanentheistic origin.

[Humble Janitor]

I feel that there is no such thing as a soulmate.

I feel no true connection to anyone. I feel no true connection to this world but yet, I am here.

I think that I will be fine even if I never connect with people in the way that I wish to and strive to.

[MMe M]

Some are incomplete without their mate. There are friends and then there are those that act on us like a drug. We have actual physical withdrawl symtoms when separated. We read each others thoughts and are content simply because they are near. We look for them in every face when we are separated for brief moments in public. Our nervous system reacts to their voice in a crowd. When one dies, the loss is so accute the other usually follows within a short period of time. Its a wonderful thing to have known your soulmate, but a death sentence if your soulmate ever decides to break from you either by death or other interests.

Those most worthy of love are seldom made happy by knowing it.

The Gods are so perverse they will give you what you wish for to watch you writhe in angony while asking for the wish to be undone. Hence, Be careful what you wish for.

[Xeon]

It is written, "In the last days, the love of many will grow cold..."

I think this statement is true today, and it is more pronounced than ever...

Images from the glitzy mass media, porn, and video games...disaster images, war images...scams...spam....fluoride...chemical poisoning.... all these slowly numb down the senses to everything that we once held in esteem...

[Swanny]

I'm meeting somebody in Jan 2009 that I think is very special, I would say she is everything I've been wishing for. Although we have yet to meet we read each others thoughts and are in each others dreams. Hopefully we will walk into the future hand in hand and face whatever is coming together :original:
I am so happy to have been given the chance of love again :wub2:

Good luck in finding love if you dont have it in your life. :original:

[SoulSuspect]

Trust me, soul mates do exist. Both sets of my grandparents are proof and thank God for them bc My parents split up. The odds are high but they will eventually line up and fall into place. It just sucks bc society tells you that everyone will find their soulmate. Very rare. Hopefully in the next life right.
Its out there and its worth the risk. You took your shot and failed, well isnt that better than wondering what if? Yes it is. Dont forget that. What if? Can screw people up hardcore. So get out there and roll the dice again! Uh nevermind sit around feeling sorry for yourself, you get way more out of life that way.

One

[Marian-Librarian]

Oh my goodness! I have to jump in here...

True soul mates DO exist...I have been looking for mine all of my life...I have written about him in my journals, dreamed of him....called for him....

and he has indeed appeared in my life....through Avalon.

Yes, I know..alot of you may think this is a crock....

but we are in 2 different continents...and yet...I know when he is awake, I can HEAR him speak to me...we share energy through something...I'm not sure how or what yet...we BOTH feel this, and it grows daily....

If you feel that you are still looking for your one...and you feel that right person IS out there...keep looking...it has taken me 52 years to find my soul mate, but now he is here!

We are mirrors of each other...energy mirrors, soul mirrors..heart mirrors....

I'm a well grounded person...not a new-age person for the most part...just kinda normal..psychic...oh yes....celtic blood....

I have dreamed him into my life...

Remember...we are who we are ....through... thought and mind and spirit...
Energy...in other words.

Peace to you who seek.
Grace to you who don't.
Love to all!

Marian

if you wish to PM me re this, please do...this is one of my things to share, if you wish to hear....

[rik]

The best champagne, you'll drink from a paper cup.

[jazzgad]

Thank you every one especially Marian for response ,I have to profess I m on a fence on this one
At this particular time ,I experience very uplifting moments in relationships moments that placed me not in this dimension
But precisely do to fact that we live here now in 3D they did not last ,and when I lost it I really did lost all
I felt lack of it like lack of oxygen and depression almost killed me .
I survived but now I don’t trust relationships especially those intense ones out of this world .
Do they make us grow sure perhaps I have enough of this growth and roller coaster already
I just want to finish this incarnation in much truth and integrity I can muster and be done with it.
What this article stirred with me is question that maybe the best way to finish my task here
Is with help of someone who is so to speak made pre-incarnated appointment with me
To get together so we can finish our tasks on time .


Does it make any sense ?

[ENdJOY]

o please soul suspect... If you are a loving individual, you can love anyone...and everyone...you are not limited to a specific person... the love of God is UNCONDITIONAL... either you share ability to express that love or not.

[THE eXchanger]

i think there are a lot of things others are to us:

essence twins

task companions

travelling companions

members of our immediate soul families

meeting them,
can be a lot of fun

sometimes, the sorrow attached to starting, and, losing them again, can be so strong, that, nothing ever begins

this is definitely
an interesting topic

i sure hope mine *sparks* me *soon* LOL

my locks - need his keys ;) :mfr_lol:

brightest blessings to all
susan
the eXchanger

[Gnosis5]

I feel that there is no such thing as a soulmate.

I feel no true connection to anyone. I feel no true connection to this world but yet, I am here.

I think that I will be fine even if I never connect with people in the way that I wish to and strive to.

Perhaps you don't have any past life issues with anyone on this planet. My hubby and I certainly did come together to resolve past life interactions. As long as I kept solving a problem by hurting him I kept meeting him again and again. This lifetime I can actually enjoy him more, and we both resolved our "karma" with each other.

cheers!
Gnosis

[conjuredUp]

What follows is only my opinion::::

We are ALL "soul mates." Though a more accurate name for us would be ONE. The very word "soul" conjures up tired religious images.

We all came from the same place. When you get to a point in your life where you are vibrating at the right frequency to meet up with others whom vibrate as you do ... that's when you get the AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.... of meeting a familiar "soul" and not until then. Or you may bump into them, but it doesn't gel because of the aforementioned vibes.

I am blessed. I meet soulmates all the time. Because I KNOW that we are ALL "soulmates".

Don't have to "find" anything to make yourself whole because we are ALL whole. We've just been conditioned away from knowing.

A piece of me is linked with a piece of every one of you.


LOVELOVELOVE,
C

[Tez]

I'm meeting somebody in Jan 2009 that I think is very special, I would say she is everything I've been wishing for. Although we have yet to meet we read each others thoughts and are in each others dreams. Hopefully we will walk into the future hand in hand and face whatever is coming together :original:
I am so happy to have been given the chance of love again :wub2:

Good luck in finding love if you dont have it in your life. :original:


I am really happy for you, as i am in the same position myself. :wub2:
Yes, Swanny, soul mates really do exist.
And they ARE a distinctive individual who make you feel whole again


Oh my goodness! I have to jump in here...

True soul mates DO exist...I have been looking for mine all of my life...I have written about him in my journals, dreamed of him....called for him....

and he has indeed appeared in my life....through Avalon.

Yes, I know..alot of you may think this is a crock....

but we are in 2 different continents...and yet...I know when he is awake, I can HEAR him speak to me...we share energy through something...I'm not sure how or what yet...we BOTH feel this, and it grows daily....

If you feel that you are still looking for your one...and you feel that right person IS out there...keep looking...it has taken me 52 years to find my soul mate, but now he is here!

We are mirrors of each other...energy mirrors, soul mirrors..heart mirrors....

I'm a well grounded person...not a new-age person for the most part...just kinda normal..psychic...oh yes....celtic blood....

I have dreamed him into my life...

Remember...we are who we are ....through... thought and mind and spirit...
Energy...in other words.

Peace to you who seek.
Grace to you who don't.
Love to all!

Marian

if you wish to PM me re this, please do...this is one of my things to share, if you wish to hear....


Marian, Your thoughts and feelings are very close to those of my own, and i could not have written them down any better than you have.

I too had been looking for my soulmate all of my life, and she had never appeared until now, and through this forum.
I had put it out 'into the ether' some years ago, and had placed that wish for my mate, my equal in all ways - yes a mirror so to speak, into the hands of spirit and just kept that vigilant eye out for that elusive other half. I would no longer settle for a 'companion' for that sake alone, this person had to be so special, and she is.

Several weeks ago, this woman came into my life through this forum, and over some weeks we became so very close, yet continents apart, we 'know' when each other awakens, we know what each are doing at any one time, and those energies that we share are felt by the both of us in extraordinary ways. Each day those feelings and energies grow, and the miles between us appear to dimminish.

I send her healing energies, and get the feedback of what has been felt when no communication has been made that it was being sent, i see the colours of the clothes she is wearing, and she can tell me what i am eating.
We too are in each others dreams, feeling the closeness of the other.
We have such a great personal connection, it is something so real, and yet we have not met on common soil - yet - and this will come to be shortly.

It has been said 'Be careful what you wish for, for it just might come true' , and as long as you wish for exactly what you desire, what are the limitations, what your expectations are for that wish to become reality, and continue to reinforce that through spirit, the god/dess, your angels, your guides........... IT WILL BECOME REALITY.

For we too will walk into the future hand in hand, and face whatever is in that future together......... She does make me feel so complete. :wub2:

I had also read in a post by EtherealSea "I also know, deep inside of me, that we are in a very important moment of our time ... so, it's not by chance that we are all here"
This is such a very real statement, and in these times are one of the purposes why so many of us are coming together, again.

Love and Light,
Tez

[Humble Janitor]

Perhaps you don't have any past life issues with anyone on this planet. My hubby and I certainly did come together to resolve past life interactions. As long as I kept solving a problem by hurting him I kept meeting him again and again. This lifetime I can actually enjoy him more, and we both resolved our "karma" with each other.

cheers!
Gnosis

I digress. I find my inability to connect with others to be a great hurdle that I haven't been able to get over. I actually think that it's a punishment for something in a past life.

[IronWoman]

Oh my goodness! I have to jump in here...

True soul mates DO exist...I have been looking for mine all of my life...I have written about him in my journals, dreamed of him....called for him....

and he has indeed appeared in my life....through Avalon.

but we are in 2 different continents...and yet...I know when he is awake, I can HEAR him speak to me...we share energy through something...I'm not sure how or what yet...we BOTH feel this, and it grows daily....

If you feel that you are still looking for your one...and you feel that right person IS out there...keep looking...it has taken me 52 years to find my soul mate, but now he is here!

We are mirrors of each other...energy mirrors, soul mirrors..heart mirrors....

I'm a well grounded person...not a new-age person for the most part...just kinda normal..psychic...oh yes....celtic blood....

I have dreamed him into my life...

Remember...we are who we are ....through... thought and mind and spirit...
Energy...in other words.

aww.. MARIAN-- thats just absolutely amazing! so beautiful

and very up-lifting!!!

thanks you for posting that..

i've got lots of dreaming to doooooo! lol

[Gnosis5]

I digress. I find my inability to connect with others to be a great hurdle that I haven't been able to get over. I actually think that it's a punishment for something in a past life.

I understand. In my case, there is always something I have to forgive myself for, and I do it out of understanding. I honor your wishes, whether to forgive or to punish.

Namaste
Gnosis

[ENdJOY]

I'm a well grounded person...not a new-age person for the most part...just kinda normal..psychic...oh yes....celtic blood....

I have dreamed him into my life...


If you ask me you are also delusional...and after fifty years, no doubt, desperate...

I don't say that to be mean...and I wish you the best in this relationship...but most likely is you have "memory" of a "past-life" relationship which you cherished, guaranteed this person is not the same person in the now, his life experience would not be the same, and he will not live up to your expectations...and you wil not find yourself progressing because you are clinging to the past instead of moving forward.

looking outside yourself for fulfillment, satisfaction and wholeness is not spiritually progressive...your true "soul-mate" dwells within you, waiting for you to recognize it is what will make you whole.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

If you ask me you are also delusional...and after fifty years, no doubt, desperate...

I don't say that to be mean...and I wish you the best in this relationship...but most likely is you have "memory" of a "past-life" relationship which you cherished, guaranteed this person is not the same person in the now, his life experience would not be the same, and he will not live up to your expectations...and you wil not find yourself progressing because you are clinging to the past instead of moving forward.

looking outside yourself for fulfillment, satisfaction and wholeness is not spiritually progressive...your true "soul-mate" dwells within you, waiting for you to recognize it is what will make you whole.

sometimes we may find a life line to grab onto and remain afloat long enough to discover that "soul-mate" which dwells within us. in doing so the ability to share in the joy of life takes on new meaning for the participants. not everyone will utilize this approach but it is available as an option for those who may need it. we all embark upon unique paths that collectively create this amazing web of manifested experience. some travel alone, some in pairs, some in packs. only the individual knows what their soul needs. recognition and acceptance of many paths travelled lifts the consciousness of the observer.

[Humble Janitor]

I understand. In my case, there is always something I have to forgive myself for, and I do it out of understanding. I honor your wishes, whether to forgive or to punish.

Namaste
Gnosis

I prefer to forgive and just live life the best way I possibly can and over time, I will be proven wrong. I don't know when or where but it will happen.

[Machinamentum]

Would "soul mate" be the inbreeding of the spirit?

I think the common idea of a "soul mate" has been radically socially changed over time.

There is a feeling and I for one know, that feeling is true, that people feel something warm and loving with that special someone. Almost a feeling similar to where we came from (spirit) and its familiar to us. Everyone has the ability to feel that if you choose to or not.

I have come to understand, that feeling is a recognition of a familiar energy pattern that shares a similar harmonic vibration. Meaning that traits could be alike. You might be in more of a synchronization with the things you do together, share similar interests and that sex is just ooohh sooo good.

I'm saying that there is more than one person that can give you that connection.

[mulder]

On one hand, we have more ways to communicate now - sms, yahoo messages, email, internet dating & satellite phones. On the other hand, many people are isolated, alone, depression is higher & marriages are breaking down.
I feel the search for a soul mate holds us back from enjoying the present. That is, we just become picky & say "no" to everyone. Many people who want it all, just end up with nothing. Secondly, I feel it is a scarey expectation for a girl to expect me to complete her, make her happy 100% of the time, etc. In reality, nobody is going to rescue you, or complete you - you have to do this for yourself.
Perhaps we were better off 100 years ago when nobody knew about soulmates & the local girl would marry the boy down the street?

[Carmen]

I met my soulmate. Totally unexpectedly. The whole experience was incredible. I knew about the science of soulmates and he didnt. He kept looking at my eyes and saying "I know, those eyes, I know them. We mirrored each other in so many ways,eg He sings Irish music and loves opera. I love Irish music and sing opera. We both experienced the loss of children at age eleven. His son,my daughter. We both danced flamenco. Possibly the strangest mirror effect was when he asked me about a scar I have on my left hand. I told him it was from cutting meat with the knife toward me. He then showed me his right hand with the same scar and said "So was I" Another realization is that once one mets their soulmate, no one else will do. Love is born that is all incompassing, eternal.

[futureyes]

where there is freedom of love, souls will gather and find each other, whether they be mates, companions, friends ...

when we allow for freedom of who we are on a deeper level, souls will find one another

when we know who we really are within ourselves, we have placed the road map to our souls within the universe ... others will find us

Love one another,
but make not a bond of love:
let it rather be a moving sea
between the shores of your souls.

Sing and dance together and be joyous,
but let each one of you be alone,
as the strings of a flute are alone
though they quiver with the same music.

Stand together yet not too near together:
for the pillars of the temple stand apart,
and the oak tree and the cypress
grow not in each other’s shadow.
-- Kahlil Gibran

peace to all souls ...

[Marian-Librarian]

Thank you all ......for your thoughts....
EnDJoy.....

I am a happy,loving and well grounded woman who is not desperate at all...
I find it interesting that you seem to know me? <gentle smile> Have we met? I think not...LOL...I would never insult you...especially having not met you <g>...nor would I in real life, as I am not that kind of person, either......

I posted this knowing that it would bring great discussion among some of you...and perhaps some negativity, but I am a big girl..lol........but mostly it was posted for those who seek and don" t understand why they seek, perhaps to give some food for thought. We are what we create..in thought word and by deed.....My life is only an example of what life can be...and is for me.....a new/old way of thinking.....

We indeed are complete within ourselves, and indeed there are many types of love in this life....I was speaking only of one type....

Thanks to all who have posted...it is so good to see all of the different thoughts on this subject! I look forward to hearing more thoughts on this and a lively discussion! After all, LOVE is a most important subject, is it not?

Peace to all.
Love to all.
Namaste.

[jazzgad]

Thank you Carmen and again Marian and Tez for amazing stories
And those who feel that to met our soul mate is to make contact
With our eternal soul that also make some sense ,even those
Who lash out on those concepts there are telling their story
And it is true story for them mirrored partner in this reality or other does not exist for them .
And it is so .In any rate I find this sharing inspiring love and light for you all

:wub2:

[futureyes]

Thank you all ......for your thoughts....
EnDJoy.....

I am a happy,loving and well grounded woman who is not desperate at all...
I find it interesting that you seem to know me? <gentle smile> Have we met? I think not...LOL...I would never insult you...especially having not met you <g>...nor would I in real life, as I am not that kind of person, either......

I posted this knowing that it would bring great discussion among some of you...and perhaps some negativity, but I am a big girl..lol........but mostly it was posted for those who seek and don" t understand why they seek, perhaps to give some food for thought. We are what we create..in thought word and by deed.....My life is only an example of what life can be...and is for me.....a new/old way of thinking.....

We indeed are complete within ourselves, and indeed there are many types of love in this life....I was speaking only of one type....

Thanks to all who have posted...it is so good to see all of the different thoughts on this subject! I look forward to hearing more thoughts on this and a lively discussion! After all, LOVE is a most important subject, is it not?

Peace to all.
Love to all.
Namaste.


marian-librarian ...

you know yourself deeper than many know of their selves still only on their surface

you do not seek externally for your fulfillment, your knowing is that you are complete within yourself, you are not one to "need" another to experience your own wholeness and divinity

isn't it lovely that from knowing your truth as you do the universe has connected you with your soul mate, connection to enhance and deepen your purpose ... and his

lovely

i know, i do not know you and we have not met but your energy speaks your truth, i simply listened

love n light
carpe diem

futureyes

[THE eXchanger]

why would anyone have a challenge
with someone meeting their soul mate ???

i think that is a beautiful thing,
and, it is wonderful that many people
are making amasing connectionS
through avalon/and, through camelot

i think, it is all "good work"
just as,
you both likely, pre_natally intended to do
how very eXciting

love
susan
the eXchanger

[Jack]

I feel that there is no such thing as a soulmate.

I feel no true connection to anyone. I feel no true connection to this world but yet, I am here.

I think that I will be fine even if I never connect with people in the way that I wish to and strive to.

When you find out what it is you came here to do, then you will find that connection and it will be with everybody.

In my own experience life has been very difficult. And the most difficult aspects have been relationships with other people. But as soon as I get 'Back on Track' by helping other people my life completely changes. The way people look at me changes, the way we communicate changes and the way I feel changes. Its too much of a difference to be merely coincidence.

Its a though there is something enticing me to help other people. If i dont help others, my life will manifest in such a way that i end up depressed and numb, lacking any kind of connection with other people.

The highest reward on this planet is the connections we make with others, what better way to entice someone then to dangle a carrot of wonderful relationships in front of their nose.

[Emman]

I have never resonated with the term soul mate. If we are ONE in the final analysis, then why would there be a singular soul that is the one for you? Does that not imply separation? Separation is illusion. Someone posted that we are all soul mates in a previous post above. I concur with that.

I would agree that there are certain people in our lives that we interact with whom we may resonate on such a profound level that it would seem to be a perfect fit for one another, thus a soul mate. If that is what a soul mate is then fine. I would call it more like the right person for this moment in time/space for whatever purpose or reason that brings a couple together to serve the best interests of each other and their higher selves. To me the term soul mate or whatever one would call it is more a matter of semantics.

[THE eXchanger]

sometimes the hottest love, has the coolest end

sometimes the hottest exchanges on line,
have no warmth to them in real time

sometimes what we initially think/or thought
about someone in the beginning...
and, with the distance that separates two people,
that, interest disappears,

(a lot of people have time for others,
2-3 minute emails at a time-but, really do NOT have
any real time for another)

also--some people, send 3-4-5 people the same emails
(and, while you think, you are the exclusive one,
you are simply one in a sea of many)

and, then when you actually meet that person,
they are NOT at all what you expected them to be
(lots of people show pictures of themselves
25 years ago - and, is that, really who they are today???)

sometimes,
it is easy to send emails back and, forth
as, another person,
is utilising what you have sent
and, is simply sending you back
an extended mirror of "your"email
just slightly polished,
and, they send it back to you
and, you think you actually have something in common
with this person--when you do NOT

so, sometimes,
you actually get fooled,
into falling in love with yourself,
and, when you actually meet the person,
they are NOT even close,
to what you imagined they would be

energetically, since, we are all sharing this planet
to some degree/or another,
we are all having relationships,
with one another

i've often found - or, at least my own experiences

is that you give another enough rope to hang themselves,
generally, they do :mfr_lol:

although, i have to admit,
since this posting board has opened up,
i have meet some pretty interesting people
(both men/and, women)
since, i started to post on this site

love/susan
the eXchanger

[Tez]

If you ask me you are also delusional...and after fifty years, no doubt, desperate...

I don't say that to be mean...and I wish you the best in this relationship...but most likely is you have "memory" of a "past-life" relationship which you cherished, guaranteed this person is not the same person in the now, his life experience would not be the same, and he will not live up to your expectations...and you wil not find yourself progressing because you are clinging to the past instead of moving forward.

looking outside yourself for fulfillment, satisfaction and wholeness is not spiritually progressive...your true "soul-mate" dwells within you, waiting for you to recognize it is what will make you whole.

I would not say delusional, nor desperate. These comments you make appear to be from one who has not experienced this aspect in their life, has not found their own true mate, and who also appears to be very un-spiritual in passing judgement when the people they question are not known to them.

Everybody has their own opinions, and no-one can conceivably form a valid opinion of another when they have not had that same unquestionable experience themselves..........


…… I feel it is a scarey expectation for a girl to expect me to complete her, make her happy 100% of the time, etc. In reality, nobody is going to rescue you, or complete you - you have to do this for yourself. …….

If that person was to expect you to complete her, she is not really your soul-mate anyway, and is so one sided, you have to in essence complete each other, without expectations,


where there is freedom of love, souls will gather and find each other, whether they be mates, companions, friends ...

when we allow for freedom of who we are on a deeper level, souls will find one another

when we know who we really are within ourselves, we have placed the road map to our souls within the universe ... others will find us

and

………….isn't it lovely that from knowing your truth as you do the universe has connected you with your soul mate, connection to enhance and deepen your purpose ... and his……………

What a truly great way of putting it, Thankyou.


i think that is a beautiful thing,
and, it is wonderful that many people
are making amasing connectionS
through avalon/and, through Camelot

Yes Susan, and as you also said about there being so many who are false in what they say and do, and so really the actions of some may very well become the label for the rest who are honest in their intentions – those seeking with a purity of heart.

I communicate daily by any and all means and forms of communication available to me.
Also, I would not expect anybody who has not found their soul-mate to understand those who have, it really is something special to behold.

Love and Peace to All

[Swanny]

Thx for the warning, I partially agree with what you say Susan, and I know it does happen, but I think that applies more to when you are actively searching for someone on maybe a dating site. But when you without looking stumble across someone on a forum full of like minded people who is everything you could have wished for, and everthing falls into place then I think there is something else going on.
People do meet in the strangest of places and situations, destiny works.


I never understand why people would lie about themselves, what's the point??
How do you explain your 5'6" when you told someone you were 6'2" tall :naughty:
I have been totally honest and open with my girl :original:

[Mystic Pilgrim]

We are ALL in a way “soulmates” to a common goal here in Project Avalon. As EtherealSea has said, “it is not by chance that we are all here”. We are all working for the same common good – the future of a planet in peril.

It is also possible that in the search for that goodness, we meet others of like-minded inclinations and spiritually. How wonderful that out of a forum that was formed to prepare us for the end-times, we meet our match and perhaps, our companion in making that transition to a better and much brighter world.

Thank you Marian-Librarian, Tez and Carmen for such wonderful sharings. Good luck to you Swanny for meeting your soulmate next year! Although I haven’t found my twin soul yet, I do have “soulmates” here in Project Avalon who share with me my ideas, beliefs, fears and hopes. Suddenly, the future doesn’t seem so bleak.

[THE eXchanger]

i shall command/and,
demand for mine to put in his appearance :lightsabre:
i have made a cup of coffee :cup:
and, i hope it doesn't get cold ;):thumb_yello:
since, i do NOT kiss and tell:mfr_lol::mfr_lol:
none of you will know, if he appears :naughty:

ahh--it's a good thing for dreaming
(i do get quite lucky there)

love/susan
the eXchanger

[Circlewerk]

where there is freedom of love, souls will gather and find each other, whether they be mates, companions, friends ...

when we allow for freedom of who we are on a deeper level, souls will find one another

when we know who we really are within ourselves, we have placed the road map to our souls within the universe ... others will find us

Love one another,
but make not a bond of love:
let it rather be a moving sea
between the shores of your souls.

Sing and dance together and be joyous,
but let each one of you be alone,
as the strings of a flute are alone
though they quiver with the same music.

Stand together yet not too near together:
for the pillars of the temple stand apart,
and the oak tree and the cypress
grow not in each other’s shadow.
-- Kahlil Gibran

peace to all souls ...



Beautifully said.
I agree, when the definitions of love that we cling to are finally let go, we'll stand face to face with that which we are, in truth.
Thank you futureeyes.
CW

[greybeard]

think Eckhart Tolle said in "The Power of Now. "Relationships are not there to make you happy at this time, they are there to disolve your ego." " You will learn more from 3 failed relationships than spending 3 years on a desert island"
He then went on to talk of enlightened relationships where the love is profound -- rather that ownership ie Yoy promised to make me happy and you dident.
I have found that some past relationships grew me and I give thanks for that.
Fortunately I am still friends with my 3 exs.

However I do believe in the concept of "Twin flames". -- the "original - first partner unites with you again and you become as one after perhaps many life times."

Perhaps Im just a born romantic.

had some time on my own --I dident like it, not doing that again :mfr_lol:

Much love may you all find yours if you havent allready.

Chris XXX

[crazycharlie]

Great Thread ...
I am in the process of ending a 30 year relationship.
( Not Married )
I have went to many psychics over the last thirty
years, this last fall two of them said I have marriage
in the cards. That has never come up before.
2009 sounds good to me !

[Dadrious]

"Zeus gathered the gods in council to express his concern that these unusual creatures would one day challenge their hegemony. He was loathe to exterminate them with his thunderbolts, though, because there would be no one to bring the gods offerings. He solved the problem by putting each creature into a trance and then splitting it down the middle…Upon awakening, each half only dimly remembered what it had been prior to being cleft in two. Zeus explained to the assembled gods and goddesses the cleverness of his scheme. These creatures would no longer pose a threat to the gods, because they would dissipate their considerable energy by spending the rest of their days searching for their missing halves" - Leonard Schlain (recounting Plato's Symposium account)

[Carmen]

We do not 'need' our soulmate, for they are always with us spiritually, psychicly. My experience was that of my male half joining me in my heart. I was then balanced in my beingness . I felt as much male as female eg stronger, more decisive, more complete. And the 'need' for sex was completely gone. Especially the basement variety. At the same time I had a deep yearning for wholebody connection with my soulmate. My marriage fell away. My husband left and my energy soared. We are still very good friends and are still married on paper which confuses the hell out of those in the old conciousness of good/bad hes right shes wrong. We both laugh about that. My former mate was my greatest teacher and I his.

[Swanny]

In UK the wife or husband is called "The other half" :original:

[NorthernSanctuary]

At our present level of evolution for society as a whole, the need and desire for both sexes is self evident. There is no doubt that many people feel the ultimate happiness can be found in such relationships.

However, for starseeds that have incarnated here for the purpose of helping the planet, many will tend to prefer to be alone and not take a chance in getting caught in the karma of relationships and to focus on their mission. Also with spiritual development, the happiness that one can get with such relationship can be evolved to one that is based on the relationship with life in its larger context where there is an awareness of interaction with all of life. The relationship may not be as intense, but the duration is much longer, essentially being always present; it is one where you are never alone and happiness and contentment is always there,not dependent on another being.

One example of a whole society existing at this level would be a race of hermaphrodites. This would only be possible when the beings evolve to a point where they control their DNA since the imperfection of our DNAs is a prime reason for co-creation with 2 sexes. Here is an e-book on such an evolved ET society:

http://books.google.ca/books?id=MCuM5KQifAEC&dq=thiaoouba+prophecy&pg=PP1&ots=fSX1QR0UIU&sig=546yLK8wwbpIoJ2BtSnAr1znRmA&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.ca/search?q=thiaoouba+prophecy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail#PPA27,M1

[Marian-Librarian]

Dadrious-
Thank you for posting that...interesting. Somehow in my classical education I missed that one, so much thanks. Will be interesting to know what comes when we have united and challenge Zeus once again...makes one think, indeed....

Greybeard....Yes, Tolle is a good one isn't he? I had never heard of twin flames until this year...it is indeed a wonder...a wonder...more than I could ever explain....

There is another good book on the types of love that I read long ago in college...it escapes me...but talks about types (not stages) of love...
Eros, Agape..ah it will come..classic book in psychology...

Futureyes-
Ah yes, had forgotten about Siddhartha and Gabran....thank you for reminding me...

Also anything by Rumi is quite intersting...

Mulder-
I will have to PM you privately....you do not have to complete someone, as you can't...only when you are complete yourself, and know yourself, can you truly love and give unconditionally....and it so very joyful... very joyful indeed.



And to those who have PM'd me privately...love and peace to you on your journey towards one another....

Such a wonderful thread...love is indeed an amazing thing...

Love to all of you...
Namaste! Namaste!

(kisses of white light mixed with Pixie dust)

[LiquidSwordz]

there is interesting blog by Ellie Crystal and this topic haunts me all my life
I see now illusion of romantic love as a one of many ways that society control us to start family and procreate so our children could be food cannon in future wars but what about what Ellie calls help by our soul mate in finishing our spiritual work ,what you guys think ?
the reason I ask is that I m in great relationship easy and stress free but
soul mate she is not ,more like best friend .

the other topic I want to touch is ,this is very enlightened compared to general population crowd ,but most posts are about surviving those great
earth changes when my intuitive feeling and Ellie talks about it all the time also is that this time is for closure and transcendence while serving others in those difficult times ,not so much survive at all cost .




Sorry, im not too sure about this one. If a girl is not willing to accept my porn collection, she is not a soul mate. SOUL MATES is just an illusion. Its all biological chemistry, and that is all. All biological chemistry. For us men, soul mate just means another word for our new MOTHERS.

Plus, isn't it kind of ignorant/selfish to search for a soul mate, and walk to the end of the world with them? ignoring everything else in life. The starvation, famine, disease, and destruction of our planet.

[THE eXchanger]

In UK the wife or husband is called "The other half" :original:

ahh, my other half
iS with the wrong other half -- that must be it !!! ;)

[Swanny]

Plus, isn't it kind of ignorant/selfish to search for a soul mate, and walk to the end of the world with them? ignoring everything else in life. The starvation, famine, disease, and destruction of our planet.
Too bloody right :thumb_yello:

[becky]

You are God. I am God. We are God. Your thoughts create things. If you would like a soul mate, write them into your story. Then, believe that YOU ARE GOD, and your soul mate will arrive as you created them.

Or, believe that there is no such thing, and there won't be! And that's okay too!

Love and all the good stuff,
Becky