September 7th Crop Circle Message

[Richard Sauder]

Hi All,

The Sept. 7th crop circle may be a fair warning of the possibility of a serious missile exchange in our future. Please go to:

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary2/sanctuary2008b.html

and scroll to the the bottom for my comments.

Richard Sauder

[Dominic]

Very interesting. I noticed the rad con symbol that three of the missiles made in the center.

[Antaletriangle]

Yeah, initially i just perceived a flower as in sacred geometry stuff-then immediately i noticed six WWII V2 rockets in a systematic array emananting from the centre.Very strange indeed.



http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=17&pictureid=257


This was one of the best-paradoxical but was translated as along the lines of much pain,distrust etc. still time..conduit closing.

[gazbom]

Hi All,

The Sept. 7th crop circle may be a fair warning of the possibility of a serious missile exchange in our future. Please go to:

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary2/sanctuary2008b.html

and scroll to the the bottom for my comments.

Richard Sauder
Do we know if the two outside circles are pointing East?

[Antaletriangle]

I wonder what the two smaller circles on the perimeter mean?

[David]

Also looks like the missiles are pointing to a bulls eye.

[Richard Sauder]

I don't know where the small circles near the periphery of the formation point. I do not know their significance.

For me the obvious symbology is the missiles themselves, pointing inward from the perimeter. I cannot think of a more pointed warning of the danger of general global warfare. And it is true, at the very center, the nose cones come together to form a configuration that closely resembles the well-known international warning symbol for radioactivity.

No country on Earth has military forces more widely deployed around the planet than the United States. So no matter if a nuclear missile comes from the East or West or North or South it could just as easily be from an American submarine, surface vessel, B-52, orbiting platform, or missile silo as from anyone else's. The American foreign policy of the last 50 years has been extremely belligerent -- and if the USA/Israel beat the war drum against Iran any harder than they have been for the past year, the drum would disintegrate from the pounding. A vast American-led naval armada is assembling right now in the Persian Gulf theatre. It certainly looks as though the USA and Israelis are preparing an attack against Iran. In fact, multiple statements by prominent Israelis in recent weeks and months have explicitly pointed in that direction. The Iranians have said just as clearly that if the USA/Israel attack them that they will fight back vigorously. If Iran is attacked it is also possible that Russian or China could enter the conflict on the side of Iran.

I am not making a partisan political argument. I am making a sober assessment of the international arena as it is.

[gazbom]

I don't know where the small circles near the periphery of the formation point. I do not know their significance.

For me the obvious symbology is the missiles themselves, pointing inward from the perimeter. I cannot think of a more pointed warning of the danger of general global warfare. And it is true, at the very center, the nose cones come together to form a configuration that closely resembles the well-known international warning symbol for radioactivity.

No country on Earth has military forces more widely deployed around the planet than the United States. So no matter if a nuclear missile comes from the East or West or North or South it could just as easily be from an American submarine, surface vessel, B-52, orbiting platform, or missile silo as from anyone else's. The American foreign policy of the last 50 years has been extremely belligerent -- and if the USA/Israel beat the war drum against Iran any harder than they have been for the past year, the drum would disintegrate from the pounding. A vast American-led naval armada is assembling right now in the Persian Gulf theatre. It certainly looks as though the USA and Israelis are preparing an attack against Iran. In fact, multiple statements by prominent Israelis in recent weeks and months have explicitly pointed in that direction. The Iranians have said just as clearly that if the USA/Israel attack them that they will fight back vigorously. If Iran is attacked it is also possible that Russian or China could enter the conflict on the side of Iran.

I am not making a partisan political argument. I am making a sober assessment of the international arena as it is.
It usually means to point to, where to look, where it might be coming from, that's why I asked, do we know if it's pointing to the East because that's where the bombs will come from!

[gazbom]

I don't know where the small circles near the periphery of the formation point. I do not know their significance.

For me the obvious symbology is the missiles themselves, pointing inward from the perimeter. I cannot think of a more pointed warning of the danger of general global warfare. And it is true, at the very center, the nose cones come together to form a configuration that closely resembles the well-known international warning symbol for radioactivity.

No country on Earth has military forces more widely deployed around the planet than the United States. So no matter if a nuclear missile comes from the East or West or North or South it could just as easily be from an American submarine, surface vessel, B-52, orbiting platform, or missile silo as from anyone else's. The American foreign policy of the last 50 years has been extremely belligerent -- and if the USA/Israel beat the war drum against Iran any harder than they have been for the past year, the drum would disintegrate from the pounding. A vast American-led naval armada is assembling right now in the Persian Gulf theatre. It certainly looks as though the USA and Israelis are preparing an attack against Iran. In fact, multiple statements by prominent Israelis in recent weeks and months have explicitly pointed in that direction. The Iranians have said just as clearly that if the USA/Israel attack them that they will fight back vigorously. If Iran is attacked it is also possible that Russian or China could enter the conflict on the side of Iran.

I am not making a partisan political argument. I am making a sober assessment of the international arena as it is.
Bombs inside a circle could mean a global war, bombs from everywhere but the two circles would be an indication where it will start.

[David]

It usually means to point to, where to look, where it might be coming from, that's why I asked, do we know if it's pointing to the East because that's where the bombs will come from!

I'm not so sure. The small circles are at the tip of the missile. Could be the direction of the target.

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary2/SanctuaryFronta.jpg

[gazbom]

I'm not so sure. The small circles are at the tip of the missile. Could be the direction of the target.

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary2/SanctuaryFronta.jpg
Is that not the bottom of the rocket? The small cicles I mean, that could be the direction, are the war heads not touching in the middle of the circle?

[kungfugrip]

Yeah, initially i just perceived a flower as in sacred geometry stuff-then immediately i noticed six WWII V2 rockets in a systematic array emananting from the centre.Very strange indeed.



http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/picture.php?albumid=17&pictureid=257


This was one of the best-paradoxical but was translated as along the lines of much pain,distrust etc. still time..conduit closing.


according to a resonance project emmissary
http://www.theresonanceproject.org/graphics.html

this is not the particular crop circle mentioned...with the missles. But I have heard a story about this.....Apparantly carl sagan in the 70's used the seti equiptment (largest blowbag waste of time, and can be also rented for harp like experiments) to Broadcast, not receive messages... He sent a binary code out which mathmatically let others know of the particulars of our system, intelligence, dna make up etc etc....well, they actually got a reply! so the story goes.....

on the aniversary of the initial broadcast, about 20 years to the day later, written in the field next to the seti array, was the crop circle with the alien and the binary code disc.

the message was to beware of false deals and information

could be a reference to the US govn't deals with the greys in exchange for technology...

[gazbom]

according to a resonance project emmissary
http://www.theresonanceproject.org/graphics.html

this is not the particular crop circle mentioned...with the missles. But I have heard a story about this.....Apparantly carl sagan in the 70's used the seti equiptment (largest blowbag waste of time, and can be also rented for harp like experiments) to Broadcast, not receive messages... He sent a binary code out which mathmatically let others know of the particulars of our system, intelligence, dna make up etc etc....well, they actually got a reply! so the story goes.....

on the aniversary of the initial broadcast, about 20 years to the day later, written in the field next to the seti array, was the crop circle with the alien and the binary code disc.

the message was to beware of false deals and information

could be a reference to the US govn't deals with the greys in exchange for technology...
Yep, I read that also.

[Martian Tigress]

Of course, another explanation for the Sept. crop formation (for those into HD physics and Plasma Cosmology) is that it is a diagram of resonant energy inside the Earth. Upwelling (or more correctly, higher dimensional energy induction) in the form of heightened electrical storm activity, etc., happens at the poles and at 19.5 degrees above and below the equator. The specific spacing of points along the 19.5 degree band can be guesstimated by placing two (semi-interlocking) tetrahedrons inside the spherical shell of the planet, and where the vertices 'touch' the planetary shell is where the upwelling will be, like the Great Red Spot on Jupiter (which is also at 19.5 degrees off Jupiter's equator). The interference patterns/concentric rings show that the energy-induction is apparently spread evenly throughout the tetrahedron-system, and that if the inflowing energy becomes strong enough to erupt into something like full-blown auroral displays, it will happen at a specific point or points marked by the 'imaginary' double tetrahedron (indicated by the two dots at one of the six '19.5 points' indicated in the diagram). The view shown in the crop formation is from one of the planetary poles.

So from my point of view, no rockets, but rather a heads-up to be aware of an increase of overall electrical charge being carried by the Earth. For explanations of the physics, check out Tom Bearden's website, and Richard Hoagland's stuff on what he calls Hyperdimensional (HD) physics. For Plasma Cosmology/Electric Universe info, Thunderbolts.info has the best of the 'layman's explanation' articles, along with calculations and predictions based on the Plasma Cosmology model.

Peace,

Martian Tigress

[Flashback]

How do you make this out to be a picture of a missile or radiation symbol?

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary2/NEWSAnctX.jpg

[Martian Tigress]

Thank you, Flashback! The diagram clearly shows a magnetic/wave-form interference pattern, with one tetrahedron as the magnetic North (the 3 arms marked by white triangles at the center) and the other tetrahedron as the magnetic South (the 3 arms marked by the dark triangles at the center) of the dipole that runs Earth's magnetosphere. Also visible in the diagram is the tiny dot INSIDE the point that the outside dots are above. From an HD physics point of view (pardon the pun), it is a clear reminder that 'exterior' electrical effects on Earth (like heavy-duty tropical storms/hurricanes) are triggered by internal HD-energy induction.

Peace,

Martian Tigress

[DoctorWho]

I see weed and I don't even smoke it.
Bill "the Doctor"
P.S. I can also see the missles.

[Antaletriangle]

Having looked a little more closely the missiles look as if they are being exchanged one faces one way the next faces the other-an exchange-M.A.D.?Not on the preliminary diagram but on the crop circle itself!Flattened edges next to sharper showing different/opposing directions.

[David]

How do you make this out to be a picture of a missile or radiation symbol?

I colored in the areas that show a radiation symbol and the missiles are in red.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn168/traderup74/NEWSAnctX.jpg

[majorlee]

have a look at another circle on that day...

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/allington/allington2008.html

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/allington/Allington2008a.jpg

this clearly shows a simple pin-point target, like a laser aim point

wonder if the geometry between this circle and the other could be an important location tool? does the side with the external circles point to this in a bigger picture?

wish google earth was updates daily lol!

just a thought! anyone help with this?? Lucy Pringle?

[Kahunamahalo]

I see doobies...

[mach66]

Martian Tigress,
You are amazing!! When I saw the crop circle I could see where people were seeing V-2 Rockets.. Your explanation was way out there, but very plausible, especially with all the H.D. activity in our Solar system, probably Universe right now.

Once I saw the digram.. Man o Man, the interference patterns just jumped right out and as you stated the two poles and and the 19.46 energy points are right there... Very very insightful... BRAVO!

Mach66

[Antaletriangle]

Majorlee-is that crop circle you posted a symbol for the sun in astrological terms?

[mach66]

Forgot to mention... the energy leak or causal effect is coming out of the North Pole. When you see a circle like this, it's usually those tiny dots and out of place symbols that carry the larger message.

Mach66

[Antaletriangle]

That's what caught my attention mach66; the smaller circles on the periphery.

[majorlee]

Majorlee-is that crop circle you posted a symbol for the sun in astrological terms?

my knowledge on astrology is not to hot, maybe someone else can confirm this?

[SunRa]

ancient planetary sign of the sun
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Vt4A3Wymcm9JyM:http://symbolica.com.au/wp/wp-content/sun-ancient-glyph.jpg

so yes, i would say it is referencing the sun
:original:

[Martian Tigress]

Yes, the circle with a dot in the center is the old alchemical sign of the Sun, and the Sun's metal, gold, as well. Interestingly, right now we are in a 'no sunspots at all' period.

Mach66--

I do lots of reading, as I work for a library system. I've also been following crop circles since the late 80's/early 90's, and I've had my own experiences with mentally projected or received shapes showing up all the way over in England a day or two after I sent or spontaneously received a symbol.

I've also had bouts of looking at some crop formations and getting what I can only call 'instant downloads': one minute, I'm thinking about what a nice design a particular formation is, and then the next, I suddenly know that it is talking about how thought can be polarized just like light, so the Skypeople can watch things through my eyes (as I have invited them to do so that they can really see things 'from the inside') without creating so much as a ripple within my consciousness-field. Then, my next thought is, 'Well, how did I just all-of-a-sudden 'know' that, and I am half a world away from the crop formation???'

I had the same kind of 'grokking moment' with this particular formation a few days back-- it's like being hit with the mental equivalent of a strobe-flash-- and I just said, 'OMG, it's a plan-view from the planetary pole with the HD physics tetrahedron-base-points picked out along the circle!' Don't know how I knew it so quickly, but then when I started looking at the interference-pattern and the way that the two sets of 3 pointers are 'oppositionally colored' (the white parts of one set are the black parts of the other), it just fits the idea of a magnetic dipole. Knowing that it is Earth (as opposed to, say, Neptune) was just part of the 'intuitive download'.

For what it's worth, I think everyone is capable of doing this 'grok-thing' with crop formations, but people need to give up trying to make them fit their own preexisting mindsets. If it is one thing that crop formations are about, it is gently but inexorably moving us out of our current damaged paradigm of existence.

Peace,

Martian Tigress

[lehomonuka]

has anyone that is not bound to speculations, viewed to other image in the same field ^I^. there is not very good of a view of it (and no other ones that are listed), imho, it appears to be a kinda/sorta "key" or maybe a schematic,
But,they are "almost" diffineately related to each other



pics #4,6 & 7 @ http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary2/sanctuary2008b.html


to those that have eyes, let them "see" JC

"I have no question mark on my 'puter, so a "shrug"= ^I^ will have to do
leho

[JonParkins]

Is it not the simble for a hydrogen atom ?

[Orion11]

Hello,

Here is something interesting..... some very valid points and thoughts..

helps to lunderstand what some of those small, "out of place" symbols on the periphery of many circles are as well.

http://www.cropcircleship.com/

[NXS]

I see six missiles either striking, or at the point of, striking their bullseyes (targets). At first, I had no theories to the smaller circles, but after viewing it, I got the mental image of planetary alignment.

This is a theory, nothing more, but to me, the picture seems as if it could be pointing to some event involving missiles occuring when the planets come into alignment... December 21, 2012.

Again, this is just my first impression, but I'd be interested to hear everyone else's opinion on the matter.

[GregorArturo]

I'm not sure if the parallel lines are causing an optical illusion, but being a visual artist, I am pretty damn good a measuring things with my eyes, especially centering, and well the dot looks off center. Now if it's a real crop circle and not faked (as it would be a hella easy one to fake), I'm assuming there would be a reason it's off and only through accurate measurements could you figure out why, mathimatically.

[Orion11]

I see six missiles either striking, or at the point of, striking their bullseyes (targets). At first, I had no theories to the smaller circles, but after viewing it, I got the mental image of planetary alignment.

This is a theory, nothing more, but to me, the picture seems as if it could be pointing to some event involving missiles occuring when the planets come into alignment... December 21, 2012.

Again, this is just my first impression, but I'd be interested to hear everyone else's opinion on the matter.

planets align all the time, it doesnt have to mean 2012.
It could be next week, ..
and certain things happen during different planetary cycles/alignments...

perhaps its indicating that on the next alignment of 2 certain planets, something will occur. Maybe not.....

but

in case anyones interested in that stuff..

check out some of C.J. Callemans work,
and barbrara hand clow
in regards to planetary cycles/ movements affecting things here on Earth.

[Flashback]

Thank you, Flashback! The diagram clearly shows a magnetic/wave-form interference pattern, with one tetrahedron as the magnetic North (the 3 arms marked by white triangles at the center) and the other tetrahedron as the magnetic South (the 3 arms marked by the dark triangles at the center) of the dipole that runs Earth's magnetosphere. Also visible in the diagram is the tiny dot INSIDE the point that the outside dots are above. From an HD physics point of view (pardon the pun), it is a clear reminder that 'exterior' electrical effects on Earth (like heavy-duty tropical storms/hurricanes) are triggered by internal HD-energy induction.

Peace,

Martian Tigress

Thaks MT!

I so wish I did something else at university now! I was pretty good at pyschics and maths!

edit - my spelling is rubbish

[Racsouran]

Hi All,

The Sept. 7th crop circle may be a fair warning of the possibility of a serious missile exchange in our future. Please go to:

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary2/sanctuary2008b.html

and scroll to the the bottom for my comments.

Richard Sauder

wouldn´t dare to say what u said about the possible meaning of the circle but it´s a pretty design.

[Theresa]

NO! consider this is an image of the flower of life emerging amidst the chaos of 3rd dimension and the smaller circles above represent the ascension into 4th and then 5th dimension. Out of the chaos there is awakening. or within the chaos is awakening, and out of that, ascension. Whattya think?:thumb_yello:

[Theresa]

Martian Tigress wrote:

"it's a plan-view from the planetary pole with the HD physics tetrahedron-base-points picked out along the circle!' Don't know how I knew it so quickly, but then when I started looking at the interference-pattern and the way that the two sets of 3 pointers are 'oppositionally colored' (the white parts of one set are the black parts of the other), it just fits the idea of a magnetic dipole. Knowing that it is Earth (as opposed to, say, Neptune) was just part of the 'intuitive download'."

Right on!! See, there IS a HUGE magnetic shift coming from the sun that is an EXPRESSION of the ascension process happening. From other analysis that I've read of crop circles, they are trying to HELP us ASCEND, not keep us stuck in 3D consciousness.

The crop circles implant a vibration into our consciousness to help us raise our vibration. THis is how they can help-not by interfering. They are trying to help us awaken.

I am told that even if we don't cognitively understand the symbol, on the SOUL level, the right impression is made. and always, TRUST THE PROCESS!

~OM AH HUM~

[greybeard]

God forgive my ignorance.
They dont look like rockets to me. More like rowing boats.
Why worry no one knows the future for sure not even the makers of crop circles. Not saying your interpretations are not so. All I can say for sure is that the circles exist.

Regards to all

Chris

[Callidon]

I'm sorry guys but i have to respectfully disagree with your interpretations of this CC's meaning. I can see wht your getting at with the missle thing, but really, its not as "clear cut" as you seem to think it is. It's a geometrical shape, as have all the CC's we've seen in the past bar the few "message" formations.

I think your taking 2 and 2 and coming up woth 58045 on this one.

From a psychological point of view it should be needed to be pointed out that the mind will always ee what it wants to see. You will look at it, see 6 missles or some such, and run with that idea. Peice that together with other info form avalon/camelot and many other sources and be absolutely positive your interpretation is indeed the right one.

Also with the depth of feeling and emotion that goes into this site, as with the others. it is easy for your mind to be left open, as it must surely be for you to be posting here, and for it to take on board aspects and imagery bought up by other people without you even noticing it.

As far as i'm concerened, there is no more meaning in this formation than in most that have already been and gone.

[Orion11]

I think your taking 2 and 2 and coming up woth 58045 on this one.


absolutely.

[NXS]

planets align all the time, it doesnt have to mean 2012.
It could be next week, ..
and certain things happen during different planetary cycles/alignments...

perhaps its indicating that on the next alignment of 2 certain planets, something will occur. Maybe not.....

but

in case anyones interested in that stuff..

check out some of C.J. Callemans work,
and barbrara hand clow
in regards to planetary cycles/ movements affecting things here on Earth.


You're absolutely right. It doesn't necessarily mean 2012, and as I stated in my original post, this is simply one of the first theories that formed in my mind upon seeing it. It could very well be any of the next planetary alignments in which something will occur. Then again, it could mean something completely different altogether.

I will definitely look into C.J. Calleman though. It all, is indeed, very interesting.

[BJ ∞ Trust Yourself]

Should we not look at the full picture that we have knowledge to, if we want a more overall reality (aka = truth).... the pattern of 6, the lay of the crop itself, the magnetic qualities of the circle, the plant growth inside and outside the formation, the knowledge of the seed of life, the dots in and out the formation, the other crop circle in the SAME FIELD on the SAME DAY, etc).

Call it nuts, but HELLO guys... we are focusing on a war-like mentality. Are you guys seriously thinking its missles talking about a doom-scenario? If so, do you feel its the Circlemakers or money-based fear agenda engineered by humans or "other" factions (which is probably still human at the root of survival within fear mentality).

Serisouly guys? Just say Im crazy or "too fluffy" but jeeeeez it feels like u guys are following the article's assumptions of missles. SURE, they LOOK like missles at a glance.... but my GOD ur not including the full reality!.... Im kinda surprised at Project Avalon on this one... then again, I have heard and seen some funny fear-based thinking on this forum so far. Whici makes it more "diverse" but honestly... not really that diverse considering the consciousness in the world is so poverty-based still. Shouldn't WE be the change we wish to see? Do you guys WISH for missles to be in crop circles? I will assume "no". In that simple assumption, why not look at ALL evidence before concluding?
Makes me wonder how much distraction and MULTIPLE USERS BY BLACK OPS are on this thing anyway. Even if you aren't black-ops... we still reflect consciousness. However, the majority of peopel will not come here, they are too scared. SO.... shouldn't we set the example by "Be the change you wihs to see in the world"????

Just because it looks like missles doesn't mean it is a missle-based-message. Maybe you all realize this. Probably so. So why discuss it so much? Lets look at the lay of the crops, the numbers, the geometry, the OTHER circle, and other tied-in anamolies. If we are TURLY all inclusive, like Avalon was defined to be, then why conclude short-handing ourselves?

[Orion11]

fo sho BJ!! Thanks bro. :)

Blessings

[Orion11]

Hi NXS,

yeah definitely.

could be anything.

Here is Callemans site..
http://www.calleman.com/

lots of info to go through, but lots of good stuff ...

uhmm.. the book, The Mayan Code~ by Barbara hand clow, goes into it pretty good and makes it simple to understand..

Bless

[Jacqui D]

Interesting crop circle and i can see what richard is saying about the connection to missles.
When you look closer it looks athough the point (nose) of the missile is actually pointing at a target point too.
Thanks for this info richard it's very eye opening.

[Merlyn]

I think some of the crop circles are fake but many are likely real communications and perhaps telling us where we are heading.

The fact that most form around or simply are a circle tell us alot.

If we look at the Nr Avebury, Wiltshire September 7, 2008 crop circle:
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary2/AveburyCropCircleA.jpg

We see 6 "banded" Vesica pices sacred geometry symbols in a
Flower of Life pattern. The banding pattern - I think is communicating
the interweaving of creation sort of the light and dark.

The three smaller dots could be the Mayan "pure count" number 421

The 421 has a "golden ratio" relationship with the Mayan Tzolkin's 260 kin or days because ... 421 x 0.618 = 260

The 421 also relates to the transition from Dec 21, 2012 to Dec 22, 2012

[NXS]

Hi NXS,

yeah definitely.

could be anything.

Here is Callemans site..
http://www.calleman.com/

lots of info to go through, but lots of good stuff ...

uhmm.. the book, The Mayan Code~ by Barbara hand clow, goes into it pretty good and makes it simple to understand..

Bless


Thank you greatly, Orion. I appreciate the link :thumb_yello:

[sirian77]

I don't see it. Crop circles are made by people and that's about it. :original:

[BJ ∞ Trust Yourself]

I don't see it. Crop circles are made by people and that's about it. :original:

Would you like to enlighten us as to why you feel such a way about crop circles made ONLY by humans?

Please explain:



magnetic anomalies inside crop circles



uni-source sounds within the crop circles
(http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/anasazi/sounds1.html)




explosions in the nodes of the plants via water boiling ONLY in those sections of the plant
(http://www.cropcirclesecrets.org/biophysical.html)


crystalline changes inside the circles



chemical content of plant changes inside the circles



biological and plant growth pattern changes in the plants inside the circles.
(including rendering the layed crop: healthier and more developed!!)




no foot prints or indentations underneath 90-degree bent plants about a few inches above the surface


the moisture and content (minerals) is different inside from outside the circles


in the middle of a trackless/pathless crops


Now, that is not to say ALL named crop circles are of this nature.

Please provide more information to back up claims made. This forum is smarter than that. I think most on here understand the above bullets, yes?

Oh, two more:


the beautiful precision notable in many of these complex structures from photos taken from directly above.


orbs caught on camera swirling just before a crop "layed down on its own."

Check out Freddy Silva's book "Secrets in the Fields" for more info. Or check out his site and others like: www.cropcirclesecrets.org (http://www.cropcirclesecrets.org)

Now, MAYBE humans have the agenda behind them to make some, or "all" as you say here. However, the study of the FULL phenomenon is important to understand the source. I say we study crop circles with scalar technology to see into the message (who did it, how, etc) stored on each atom within the crop (even from plants still in possession of scientists of old circles made years back).

Namaste~
BJ

[Orion11]

Crop circles are made by people and that's about it. :original:


:mfr_lol:
you are joking right?
you really cant be serious.....
can you? lol

[fastarr]

is this not the flower of life Davinci
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d91/CicadaStar/Inside%20The%20Cosmic%20Cube/Flower-of-Life_da-Vinci_02.jpg

[dolphin]

Of course, another explanation for the Sept. crop formation (for those into HD physics and Plasma Cosmology) is that it is a diagram of resonant energy inside the Earth. Upwelling (or more correctly, higher dimensional energy induction) in the form of heightened electrical storm activity, etc., happens at the poles and at 19.5 degrees above and below the equator. The specific spacing of points along the 19.5 degree band can be guesstimated by placing two (semi-interlocking) tetrahedrons inside the spherical shell of the planet, and where the vertices 'touch' the planetary shell is where the upwelling will be, like the Great Red Spot on Jupiter (which is also at 19.5 degrees off Jupiter's equator). The interference patterns/concentric rings show that the energy-induction is apparently spread evenly throughout the tetrahedron-system, and that if the inflowing energy becomes strong enough to erupt into something like full-blown auroral displays, it will happen at a specific point or points marked by the 'imaginary' double tetrahedron (indicated by the two dots at one of the six '19.5 points' indicated in the diagram). The view shown in the crop formation is from one of the planetary poles.

So from my point of view, no rockets, but rather a heads-up to be aware of an increase of overall electrical charge being carried by the Earth. For explanations of the physics, check out Tom Bearden's website, and Richard Hoagland's stuff on what he calls Hyperdimensional (HD) physics. For Plasma Cosmology/Electric Universe info, Thunderbolts.info has the best of the 'layman's explanation' articles, along with calculations and predictions based on the Plasma Cosmology model.

Peace,

Martian Tigress

if anyone is interested, here is a youtube video of a crop circle which this guy has anaylized, putting pieces together using clues given w numbers of that particular circle. what is so AMAZING is that the circle has within it the entire puzzle to et, and earth history, the illuminati, 2012, marz, moon habitations, even to the latitude and longitude of these places!!!!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vMn2K-TDIL0&feature=related

[BJ ∞ Trust Yourself]

if anyone is interested, here is a youtube video of a crop circle which this guy has anaylized, putting pieces together using clues given w numbers of that particular circle. what is so AMAZING is that the circle has within it the entire puzzle to et, and earth history, the illuminati, 2012, marz, moon habitations, even to the latitude and longitude of these places!!!!

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vMn2K-TDIL0&feature=related

I don't know why, but I have to wonder about his sticker on his laptop. Why not a ":welcomeani:Extraterrestrials" sign or something? Quite interesting... I do NOT feel this is wrong or incorrect. It is his reality.
I didn't have time to watch all his videos today (9 parts), I have seen some in the past, but hardly remember his take. I am curious how he feels about the ET aspect in general. War-like perhaps? Or does he wanna focus simply on humans and NOT ETs? Why a "no ET" sign in your lecture if your not resisting something.... so as a bit of a psych / intuit approach, I get some fear/resistance in the reality. Everyone has there place for some resistance and fear. I just wanted to see what you guys thought about his take on the ET aspect.

Thank you for any input! :original: :thumb_yello:

(BTW, I am not asking to make judgments before viewing his material. I am just curious to feel the energy feedback from you guys.)

~Namaste~
BJ

[Orion11]

hey BJ,
i noticed that to... did find it a bit odd.

and I couldnt watch anymore than about 10 minutes of it.. his vibe didnt resonate with me at all.

I see alot of other stuff talking about all of this that has me glued...

couldnt get into this.
also has to toss in his christianity in there...

no thanks.

tons of other good, balanced material out there that doesnt push any of their own beliefs at you.
:)

[Isa]

Wow, interesting! Tigress, I am fascinated by your response but wish I understood it better (physics-challenged here) ~ however seems close to Nassim Haramein's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr8s5UH6SQM&feature=PlayList&p=71098FC74CF98F6B&index=13) perspective; wonder what he thinks of this latest crop circle?

[dolphin]

you have to watch at least 5 of the parts to get it...he goes slowly at first. it's drawn out in the beginning, but i guarantee you it is amazing what he discovers. or just go to the 3 or 4th one and go from there

he is someone who studies ufo's...his sticker was tongue and cheeck...

[Carrie1971]

Wow, interesting! Tigress, I am fascinated by your response but wish I understood it better (physics-challenged here) ~ however seems close to Nassim Haramein's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr8s5UH6SQM&feature=PlayList&p=71098FC74CF98F6B&index=13) perspective; wonder what he thinks of this latest crop circle?

Thanks you made a quick click link there and I have to say my mind has sure taken a huge shift in the past 20 years...


I say that as it was about 15 or 14 years ago one of my friends was doing a "bad break up" thing and wanted to go to a bar and you know the whole thing. Down a few drinks and feel numb... I had just lost a friend to drunk driving so I went as a sober driver... This guy started getting into what he was thinking was an intresting converstation with me. He said well what do you think about crop circles. To be honest I was nice but in trying to blow him off and maybe clam him down as he was pretty much nuts over them. I said.. Oh I know people are all excited but it is just a fungus.. IN some cases of crops falling down that is the cause.. A fungal weakness of the grain stock.

I have learned so much about so many things that I would never ever had spent a minute on a few years ago.. This whole area of Crop Circles are kind of a point that very few seem to be paying any attention to I guess everyone is all worried about what puppet is going to be sleeping in the whitehouse or if the next big company to go down will get bailed out.. So funny all the dollar thing is just smoke and mirrors and this stuff is much more "REAL" than any other thing.

So that is my post for this thread .... I hope each of you have enough and remember... LIFE IS A GIFT

[chelmostef]

Hi All,

The Sept. 7th crop circle may be a fair warning of the possibility of a serious missile exchange in our future. Please go to:

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary2/sanctuary2008b.html

and scroll to the the bottom for my comments.

Richard Sauder

Is there another crop circle in the same field? Its top right in one of the 4th photo down in the link. Was that done at the same time? Is there a connected meaning between them?

Stef

[novicemonk]

Yes there is another crop circle in that field. It appeared on July 14th and you can see it here....

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary/sanctuary2008a.html

[Andre]

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary/7111331-copy.jpg

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary/P704750v6.jpg

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary/P70475d041.jpg

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary/TheSancturaryLSteveAlex-.jpg

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary/AMdia_Xsanct.jpg

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/sanctuary/avedesignb.jpg

[Orion11]

i think that crop circle was from July 1st.

the one from the 14th was this one.. On my Bday! woot! lol
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/aveburymanor/aveburymanor2008a.html

[sirian77]

God forgive my ignorance.
They dont look like rockets to me. More like rowing boats.
Why worry no one knows the future for sure not even the makers of crop circles. Not saying your interpretations are not so. All I can say for sure is that the circles exist.

Regards to all

Chris

In fact i know the team who made this one and it does NOT refer to rockets or whatever. It's just another version of the FOL pattern. No need for rocket science when it comes to crop circles. :original:

[sirian77]

:mfr_lol:
you are joking right?
you really cant be serious.....
can you? lol

look who's talking :original:
i'm serious about it yes.

"I personally don't find myself adequately qualified to assess the BLT research since I'm not a doctor of plant biology, but then neither – allegedly - are any of the BLT team. I wish them well with their work, and am glad they're doing it; however, I will lodge a few caveats.

The first is that they have found similar anomalies in lodging, that is, wind-damaged crop. One might expect that BLT would go back and reassess their crop circle findings in light of this fact, but instead they theorise that some lodging - they call it 'strange lodging' - is in fact malformed crop circles, or to put it another way, was caused by the same 'forces' that make crop circles but which lacked the extra oomph to be able to render a geometric pattern. I've seen a lot of lodging over the years, and nobody has ever quite been able to tell me precisely what the difference is between 'strange lodging' and plain old 'lodging', aside from the fact that crop anomalies have been found in the former. This reminds me a little of the fact that nobody has ever been able to tell me precisely what a 'genuine' crop circle is, or to give me date and location of a 100% genuine crop circle, together with the 100% proof, despite the fact that I have asked for it on numerous occasions. But I digress.

My second BLT caveat is that crop anomalies have been found in formations known to have been made by people. A group of researchers led by Dr Simeon Hein – who as far as I can tell is a real Doctor (of Sociology, I believe) conducted a number of experiments in which they paid farmers for the use of their fields and then made formations and analysed them afterwards. Here are some pictures from a formation they made near Cherhill in Wiltshire in 2003, showing bent and blackened nodes.

[20 / 21 Cherhill 2003 pic 1 and pic 2]

This kind of research is generally ignored by the crop circle community, and there's a sense that Hein – who started out just like any other curious croppie - is almost committing an act of betrayal by even undertaking it. But invariably, anybody who starts out as a croppie and then conducts research which demonstrates man's ability to make circles is quickly shunned or insulted or deemed to be in the pockets of government agencies, and their work is rapidly forgotten. Which is, I think, a shame.

Another formation in which anomalous crop samples were found is this one.

[22. Avebury, July 1999]

This was commissioned by the Daily Mail, and made in a field overlooking Avebury in July 1999. When later asked in an interview what anomalous crop findings were doing in a commissioned formation, Levengood posited that a plasma vortex had hit the field a few weeks beforehand, and was of sufficient strength to affect the crop but not of sufficient strength to make a formation, and thereafter – by an amazing coincidence – a team of circlemakers just happened to construct a formation on exactly the same spot weeks later. Now maybe it's just me, but I personally don't find that a very satisfying explanation."

[BJ ∞ Trust Yourself]

look who's talking :original:
i'm serious about it yes.

"I personally don't find myself adequately qualified to assess the BLT research since I'm not a doctor of plant biology, but then neither – allegedly - are any of the BLT team. I wish them well with their work, and am glad they're doing it; however, I will lodge a few caveats.

The first is that they have found similar anomalies in lodging, that is, wind-damaged crop. One might expect that BLT would go back and reassess their crop circle findings in light of this fact, but instead they theorise that some lodging - they call it 'strange lodging' - is in fact malformed crop circles, or to put it another way, was caused by the same 'forces' that make crop circles but which lacked the extra oomph to be able to render a geometric pattern. I've seen a lot of lodging over the years, and nobody has ever quite been able to tell me precisely what the difference is between 'strange lodging' and plain old 'lodging', aside from the fact that crop anomalies have been found in the former. This reminds me a little of the fact that nobody has ever been able to tell me precisely what a 'genuine' crop circle is, or to give me date and location of a 100% genuine crop circle, together with the 100% proof, despite the fact that I have asked for it on numerous occasions. But I digress.

My second BLT caveat is that crop anomalies have been found in formations known to have been made by people. A group of researchers led by Dr Simeon Hein – who as far as I can tell is a real Doctor (of Sociology, I believe) conducted a number of experiments in which they paid farmers for the use of their fields and then made formations and analysed them afterwards. Here are some pictures from a formation they made near Cherhill in Wiltshire in 2003, showing bent and blackened nodes.

[20 / 21 Cherhill 2003 pic 1 and pic 2]

This kind of research is generally ignored by the crop circle community, and there's a sense that Hein – who started out just like any other curious croppie - is almost committing an act of betrayal by even undertaking it. But invariably, anybody who starts out as a croppie and then conducts research which demonstrates man's ability to make circles is quickly shunned or insulted or deemed to be in the pockets of government agencies, and their work is rapidly forgotten. Which is, I think, a shame.

Another formation in which anomalous crop samples were found is this one.

[22. Avebury, July 1999]

This was commissioned by the Daily Mail, and made in a field overlooking Avebury in July 1999. When later asked in an interview what anomalous crop findings were doing in a commissioned formation, Levengood posited that a plasma vortex had hit the field a few weeks beforehand, and was of sufficient strength to affect the crop but not of sufficient strength to make a formation, and thereafter – by an amazing coincidence – a team of circlemakers just happened to construct a formation on exactly the same spot weeks later. Now maybe it's just me, but I personally don't find that a very satisfying explanation."


I think the reason some researchers may not pay much attention to some of this human-made-crop-circle talk, MIGHT be due to anomalies are mostly unexplained still, and no proof humans could perform the node explosions and magnetic and sonic qualities of the circles! I mean, come on.... you just said "humans did it" with the black nodes and "malformed" plants... so, HOW, please.... how did they, if you know them?

Also, please take a look at my bullet list you never seemed to address (page back). Thank you.

Are you expecting researchers to explain things to you before you show a full, all-sided interest? It appears you do not show a full interest in this subject, due to the un-evidential claims made on your opposition (non-human, or at least unexplainable by human-made formations, such as the sonic and magnetic and OTHER qualities in my bullet list a few pages back). I am simply trying to help this forum by addressing your claims. I am not personally attacking you. PLEASE know this.

So I mean... HELP out the forum by giving EVIDENCE. Read Freddy Silva's book.

I Love you~
BJ

[BJ ∞ Trust Yourself]

Slanderous comments on my page about this, and STILL no real help from the denier of Silva's work. I would recommend trying to HELP by SHOWING us rather than hitting up with "don't give me that Silva stuff" talk you made on my comments. Weeeeee, Great help you have been my good sir.

Blessings in all your work. I feel you have something to show. THEN SHOW IT my friend.

BJ

[BJ ∞ Trust Yourself]

Oh, LMAO... Sirian77 was taken off this forum. Oh darn! WOW. OK, this shows whats up then. Slandering Silva's stuff withOUT any help is TOTALLY backwards. Whoever that was, is not giving a **** about unity anyway, if you ask me. Help = help for all. Sirian77 didn't seem to udnerstand this.