Bill and Kerry Or Anybody. What Do You Think Of David Icke?

[Orion Morris]

I have read several David Icke books and I was wondering what people have thought of him. I do not personally know anybody who I can talk to face to face about this type of thing and not come across as a complete lunatic. I was wondering if "Bill or Kerry" or anybody for that matter has had a chance to personally speek with David?

[Event_Horizon]

I have read several David Icke books and I was wondering what people have thought of him. I do not personally know anybody who I can talk to face to face about this type of thing and not come across as a complete lunatic. I was wondering if "Bill or Kerry" or anybody for that matter has had a chance to personally speek with David?

He's a legend!

[Richard Sauder]

I do not know David Icke, but I have read some of his writings, and there is a lot of valuable information there.

Richard Sauder

[Andre]

He's a legend!
Yes, he is! However, we need to examine all conveyors of knowledge with proper analysis. The knowledge and the correct implementation thereof is sometimes lost when we view these personalities as messianic beings.

[Uncle Fester]

If you want to take the time, here is his new video.

This guy knows what he's talking about. A lot of people will dis him, because of his reptillian stories. That aside, he is one of the major players.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=david+icke&emb=0&aq=2&oq=david+ik#

[Antaletriangle]

He's a quality bloke and an assett to mankind's awakening process-no ego with Icke;just tells you how it is.To appear on major,prime time t.v. when he did on 'Wogan' and face the relentless ridicule that he knew he'd get was astounding and very true to his heart.These are qualities that are unfortunately a rare commodity in this world but we all possess them-be rid of the fear and get on with the lovin'!!

My hundredth post!Crikey,that's gone quick!

[Merlin]

I think David Icke is a remarkable man. He was viewed as a complete nut by most of the world back in the eighties - remember the wogan show?.
I have viewed some of his videos and I think there is alot of truth in what he say's. The guy fills whatever venue he appears at. How many are reaching as many people with the important messages as this man? Ok so you may not agree with 100% of what the man say's but he gets the important message out there. And Who really knows? maybe the one's at the top are lizards!
Can you prove they aint!

[Kate]

Yes, he is! However, we need to examine all conveyors of knowledge with proper analysis. The knowledge and the correct implementation thereof is sometimes lost when we view these personalities as messianic beings.

Andre, I agree with the need for proper analysis when doing any research. I have to say, admittedly years ago when i didnt know any better, i did question his 'outlook' but i always respected the way he put himself on the line and was willing to risk EVERYTHING in his life to go public with very controversial views and statements!
Over the years I have read his books, watched the videos and given his view a thorough appraisal.... with everything else that is now coming to the public domaian, I do believe he has pretty much got much info as a correct analogy of our history and what could presently be happening.

I salute and respect his courage..and would be delighted if Mr Icke would join this forum and give us his feedback and opinions as things escalate!!

:trumpet: :thumb_yello:

warmest best wishes to the people on this forum!

[COEXIST]

I love the way Alex Jones put it when asked about David, as it mirrors my own feeling.

Alex said something like..
"David talks about a lot of good stuff, Federal Reserve, Illuminati etc... but the problem is the whole lizard thing, it is like a turd floating in a punch bowl, it is a really good punch but with that turd floating around in it, no one will take a drink"

[peacelovinman]

The first book I read of his, "The Robot's Rebellion" was during the time I was just "waking up", some 14 years ago. At the time, when I talked to people about the ideas in the book, they assumed I was crackers but most of what he wrote turned out to be right, in my opinion. I have followed his work ever since.

Like us all (including those Kerry and Bill interview), Icke cannot be right 100%of the time but he is sincere and well intentioned, again in my opinion.

Yes, the lizard thing turns some people off. Myself, I believe there is an element of truth in the theory.

[llogun]

David icke i think is brilliant and he as allways said about is research. take from it what you will.

[DoctorWho]

I still have the interview of David Icke that was aired on the old Mysterious Universe podcast. It's at work where I listen to all my podcasts, but PM me if you want me to email you a copy. Just give me your email in your PM.
Bill "the Doctor"

[Carol]

I have read several David Icke books and I was wondering what people have thought of him. I do not personally know anybody who I can talk to face to face about this type of thing and not come across as a complete lunatic. I was wondering if "Bill or Kerry" or anybody for that matter has had a chance to personally speek with David?

I've read David Ike's books and seen his videos including the interview he did with Credo Mutwa. My impression of David Ike is that most of the information he shares is based on second hand info which he has gathered from others as compared to sharing info from his own direct personal experience.

[banoyes]

David Icke is scoffed by the ignorant
but
He is never refuted

[man_is_the_bastard]

I've heard of David Icke, but I haven't gotten around to reading any of his books. I read a small piece of him on wikipedia and I must admit I find him interesting. There is probably some sort of truthfulness in some of the things he believes, although some of it seems coocoo. It's better to be open to his opinion than stay ignorant and reject all the knowledge he offers.
*un-zips human costume*

[Orion Morris]

I just figured that peopel on this site would have to have heard of him. I really dont think that the whole shape shifting reptilian idea is to hard to grasp once you have admitted the fact that aliens or beings from another demension have to exhist. I really cant believe that their are this many people waking up right at this very moment. At first I thought David Icke was a little optimistic when he said that the human concousness was going to prevail and we would realize our full potential. Now though it seems like we are on that track more than ever. I can feel it happening all around us and this fourm is such a giant step. Keep up the good work everybody.

LET YOUR LOVE SHINE ON

[utarion]

Icke is a legend, he is spot on about the Reptilian control over the populas.

Now the clue to the identity of the serpent starts right back in Eden.

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden?’"

The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’"

It was right staring us in the eyes, all legends and cultures refer to these beings. Is that coincidence, I think not.

Its a spiritual warfare.

Jeremiah 5:21
'Now hear this, O foolish and senseless people, Who have eyes but do not see; Who have ears but do not hear.

[Subvert3D]

Hey guys.....pleased to meet ya's!!!

Icke, I have to agree is a legend, however I also have to agree that the info he passes is to some degree, second hand. However, due to the particular subject matter I would imagine that is the only way to get at this info, it ain't like the Governments are gonna put "the truth" on bill-boards or send us out nice little pamphlets entitled "the Truth about UFO's and population control....by you friendly Government!!"

However I think we can judge to a good extent the inner nature of a person by their outward aspect. Watch "BIG BROTHER - THE BIG PICTURE" on Youtube or Google and tell me that the passion and belief that the guy has isn't incredible. The end of this lecture I would put on a par with Martin Luther King or Gandhi. A very passionate man and indeed a light in all this darkness. Definatley a soul with a big job to do!!

[Mike_Jetson]

Too much evidence thoughoutt ime to dismiss the reptilian case. Icke is on a roll, no stopping now

[Antaletriangle]

Big Dave is a compelling speaker-he speaks with a clear,concise no nonesense approach with a genuine fluidity that proverbially 'connects the dots'.As for the reptilian 'theory' well somebody had to bring it to the forefront and why not?-It's absolutely ridiculous in my humble opinion to say there aren't other species with a different genetic makeup than ourselves;capable of stuff we can't fully comprehend-we still think ourselves at the top of the species hierarchy because we haven't all been face to face with these entities(not that we are aware of).I tend to think it's ignorant and arrogant a person to explicitly state that we are the most genial beings ever worked in this experience called 'reality'.I'm not having a dig here just stating where i stand on such matters-impossibilties don't exist.I look at it like this:The greatest strength a 'superior species' could have is that of the lesser not being able to comprehend it in whatever fashion.Like a tiger in the jungle-if you are aware it's there you get out of the way,if not you are easy prey.These reps. could be well cloaked and could have formulated doctrines such as religions and football matches to distract us from what's really happening.Lots of stuff is going down-children and people going missing in their thousands by all acoounts-(i have not seen any figures for this though).
We have to question our 'reality'.Everything we take for granted day to day is just that taken for granted-There are other things that are extremely important happening in our world and others that we are unaware of and i think it's healthy to ask the right questions.The media and black cabals have ways of making you fear to ask these questions and tend to make you isolated and made to feal silly/crackers-this is not civilised or humane to treat people in this way.Anyway getting back to big dave-i think he's a daring individual who's trying to even up the chessboard for average joes like myself with inside info.that was once only known by the 'illuminated ones'.No longer,i'm waking up.

[ElvenMyst]

Bright blessings all.....and a few thoughts on David Icke.It's been a long time since his 'infamous' appearence on Wogan.I remember thinking at the time that...anyone who gets that big a public character assassination...must be on to something.What is really interesting is if you watch his latest appearence on Wogan,a couple of years ago,on some third rate cable channel.Instead of laughing at Icke.....the audience laughed at Wogan and cheered Icke !! A small example but indicative of the sea change in public consciousness over the last 20 or so years. Back then if you talked about him...people would laugh at you....now all they can muster is a slight grin.

I always thought David did himself no favours the way he came across in public.Too arrogant..too defensive ? All I can say,having seen him at Brixton Academy this May, is that he his very sincere and and a very accomplished speaker (6 hours without notes ! ).And for sure the place was sold out...a very positive day.

I must say...I feel there are quite a few writers/speakers out there who have a better grasp of the overall picture but he is certainly a valued member of our community....and one of the first to stick his head above the parrapet.

As for lizards !! I can't see the problem with accepting their existence.The references come up everywhere....in religious texts,mythology and legend....not to mention more recent information.There is even a part of the human brain....called the reptillian brain.

So Yay for David Icke and Love & Light to All....

[elirien]

He is a very good guy and has very good information on almost everything that the people in this forum are (or should be) interested in. Although as I say to everyone that doesn't mean that you should take his word for it on anything. He has some mistakes as I have seen. Especially on the Sitchin stuff.

Everyone should at least have a look at his stuff. On the reptilian thing I just have to say that many whistleblowers confirm this. Although I'll probably won't trust him on that one until I've seen one (I hope never :original: ).

[conec]

What i really like about Icke is that he is usually the first person that people come across when they are trying to get into all this.

I think this is what makes him special, he gets to the people who wouldnt normally find this information.

He is the first port of call for many, he was for me and that made me find others.

His 3 hour talk to a constituency in England when another politician decided not to run is priceless. He told them he had no intention to run for office of any kind, but wanted to take the opportunity to talk, cool!

The people in the audience would have never come across this otherwise.

[She-Ra]

There are aspects of his character that I'm speculative about but in regards to his work(s), I'm not sure why people find the predominant reptillian theme hard or hardest to comprehend or believe because as ElvenMyst has already noted, our ancient religions/cultures (known on our orthadox archaeological and historical record) were/are obsessed with reptillian imagery as well as architecture/art/writings upto present day.

[GregorArturo]

My two cents: His metaphysics for the most part is right on the dot. The reptilian seems far flung as we've all said, but I def see the prevailing idea with the metaphors of our ancient traditions of our 'races' among us in the old times those being along the lines of something elfish and goblinish. And well, the reptilian fit the goblin picture (predominant snake metaphor). I feel the elves were more of a hybrid race of us, maybe a genetic experiment before we got dumbed down some more if you're on boat with the whole ancient astronaut theory.

[Allan]

I think he is very accurate on a lot of things that he talks about and is a very brave man. I have no problem believing the reptilian stuff.

[Katherine]

I love the guy! Very informative and a straight shooter. Takes no sh.. from anyone. Awesome. If you haven't watched his 'Big Brother...' video on You Tube.....it's a MUST SEE! I've wondered for a long time now why Bill & Kerry haven't invited him for an interview. Too bad. As for reptilians. I remember the old TV series called 'V'. A great story line. I found it very plausible then and still do.

Also.....after reading more and learning more.....I find that the sci-fi genre (movies etc) sounds like it's actually based in REALity ...which is sorta shocking when you think about it. Now - anytime I watch any sci-fi I can instantly relate to something I've read or heard and actually KNOW that it's no longer sci-fi but totally real! I'm beginning to think that this is 'their' way of prepping us for ??? whatever. The more we're fed this stuff the more complacent we become. It won't shock us :yikes: - it'll just be common knowledge because we'll have seen so much.
K

[llogun]

At the end of the day david icke as brought a lot of truth into this world and as opened up the gates of light just as project camolot as so people who are in the dark can walk through :thumb_yello:

[elias]

Hello everyone,

I found this somewhere sometime ago thought to share for those in search of truth, and again there is no judgment! Just some info. May us all lead to ultimate salvation.

http://www.energeticforum.com/attachments/general-discussion/194d1192714808-zeitgeist-2007-movie-why-david-icke-disinfo-being-used.pdf

Elias

[korzinabaskets]

Mr Icke seems over the years to have gone down one road and he only had so much info after that
i think he was pushed into coming up with new stuff for his books and fans, he was never going to turn round and say " thats all i know"

[Jasper]

Up until a few years ago I was like 99% of the British public and thought David Icke was a deluded w...ker. I would like to take this opportunity to publicly apologise to Mr Icke for that uninformed view.

I've no problem with the reptilian thing, I guess there are goodies and baddies as in every sector of existence. Lets face it, if you looked like Godzilla chewing on a thistle wouldn't you want to cover it up !!

[QueenOfLeon]

If it was not for David I would not be awake. The book "And the truth shall set you free" literally appeared in my draw at work 10 years ago...and to this day I still do not know how it got there. I wonder how he has survived given he is such a whistleblower, I do often wonder whether he is one of the good reptiles!! hehe, but ultimately I find him the daddy Mac of all this. Brilliantly articulate too, I just love listening to him. And I totally believe the reptile thing, I look for them on a day to day basis. Too many testimonies from un connected people to write it off. And if it is dissinfo to put us off the NWO...well im still listening.

[King Lear]

Bessides the Reptile thing he surely is right on NWO and world wide conspiracies, but as Davd Wilcock and also Alex Jones he makes sooo much false assumptions on historical issues.

[Wildfire]

I love David Icke. A true hero. He got the whole story many years before the rest of us, its hard to be a pioneer and stand at the front of the Q and know stuff before everyone else.

His attitude that love is everything, rests easy with me.

He will be revered in 100 years time....pity as he is a great man.

i for one have nothing but love for him, he came and watch me talking at brighton once about a healing. i was honored that he bothered.
love to all
Wildfire xxx read his books he knows the truth
The truth will set you free

[doodah]

Orion,

If I may quote Kerry, I think it was in the latest telephone interview with Benjamin Fulford ... "If you listen to David Icke, who makes a lot of sense a lot of the time..."

[lock'N'load]

I think he is very accurate on a lot of things that he talks about and is a very brave man. I have no problem believing the reptilian stuff.

Ive got the impression from watching David Icke that he is a very genuinly concerned person who has obviously done a lot of research because most of it can be confirmed.

Ive seen the way he was treated when he was a guest on 'Wogan'. That was an ansolute disgrace. It just put the last nail in the coffin of the old group idiot mentality syndrome for me. It just showed the length to which people have been manipulated into certain forms of thinking.

He was treated like the village idiot and received ridicule for many years. He had to watch his family endure ongoing ridicule and it only took a mention of his name in a pub for the whole congregation to burst out in laughter.
This is how we treat our heros..

Considering the absolute scorn he was to inflict on himself and his family by mentioning the lizard people from outer space i think he was a very brave man, a man of integrity and honour for doing so, holding his ground admist the constant ongoing jeering and ridicule. And he's made a few quid from it too, money well earned in my opinion.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Hi All :)

A year and a half ago I was fully asleep... I've been on a roller coaster ride of awakening: RSI illness, kundalini tantra awaking course (in at deep end), Yoga, Tia Chi, Reiki, healing, lost 20+kg, bought half of crystals in the UK :) swimming with dolphins you name it I am a changed man now. I definitely feel I am on a healing path with a Physics and Acoustics background I definitely am meant to do something I'm not yet sure what it is yet. Free energy fasinates me (water as fuel !) as does alternative health (Rife/Bob Beck/collidial Silver).

David Icke's books have been a big part of me arriving here... My view is without the 'floater' in the punch of the lizards and the 'Wogan laughing stock' to start with he would have just been bumped off like so many whistleblowers without the floaters. This way he has slipped in the back door and is now so large it would awaken too many people getting rid of him now. A star with a floater :)

[Chiel]

Hi all,

David is talking about lizards and dr. Beagle talks about that too in his 4-part monologue, "Top of Illimunati is reptilian". It's sounds really weird, and a lot of the 'forum people' have difficulties with that kind of view. But off course it's possible.
Anybody can clearify or comment?

Love,
Chiel

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Folks:

Kerry and I were due to interview David Icke at the end of 2006, but he had to cancel at the last moment due to an emergency. Since then we've never been able to reschedule it - until now.

He's in San Francisco shortly, and we're both in California at the moment - so we're going to meet up and do the interview, probably in a couple of weeks.

I'm greatly lookng forward to it. His knowledge and intuition are both extremely high and my personal view is that in so far as as he's gone ahead of us all into this jungle, taking a lot of the heat - as has Jordan Maxwell, for instance, and of course quite a few other pioneers - he's made it MUCH easier for us to follow.

He's a brave man with the highest integrity who really knows his subject - and is unafraid to state what he thinks is or may be going on. We need more like him.

Very best to all - Bill

[Zelphael]

I am super excited to hear PCamelot will interview David Icke himself!

That will be one awesome video!

[Katherine]

:mfr_omg: Thank you, thank you - Bill & Kerry for getting a David Icke interview. I can't wait! He's truly AWESOME! I've never seen so much energy and passion when he gives a talk. It's inspiring! Makes one want to grab someone - anyone and give them a shake to wake them UP! :lol3: WOW!
You two (too) are the best!
Love & Light
K

[SynchrOMicity]

He has a large set of nades, he rocks and as time goes by he keeps being proven right! Check this out SHAMAN peace out!

http://www.newsforthesoul.com/icke-june25-2005.htm

[Allan]

Thanks Bill and Kerry, this one will rock!

[Lt Ripley]

Hi Bill,

That's fantastic news! :original:

I credit David Icke for my being here in the first place and stumbling upon Project Camelot when doing some of my own research.

I think he's an extremey brave person and I appreciate the difficulties he experienced in order to get to publicly share his information. His interview with Credo Mutwa was amazing and I will eternally be grateful to David for opening my eyes and that of others.

D

[Gnosis5]

When I first started research into various processing methods one of the first incidents I viewed was myself as a reptilian in some distant past. After I saw that incident I lost my fear of reptilians. It felt great to be in that body but the problem was with regulating body temperature -- I got fried by a sudden solar flare.

I would propose that many of us were at one time or another living in a Reptilian society in some past life. I have not processed anyone yet who did not have a lifetime as some form of Reptilian. I am a clinical researcher, not a paid practitioner so I am not selling any service here, just reporting my observations in the hopes of helping someone to find relief if they are disturbed about the subject of Reptilians.



Ive got the impression from watching David Icke that he is a very genuinly concerned person who has obviously done a lot of research because most of it can be confirmed.

Ive seen the way he was treated when he was a guest on 'Wogan'. That was an ansolute disgrace. It just put the last nail in the coffin of the old group idiot mentality syndrome for me. It just showed the length to which people have been manipulated into certain forms of thinking.

He was treated like the village idiot and received ridicule for many years. He had to watch his family endure ongoing ridicule and it only took a mention of his name in a pub for the whole congregation to burst out in laughter.
This is how we treat our heros..

Considering the absolute scorn he was to inflict on himself and his family by mentioning the lizard people from outer space i think he was a very brave man, a man of integrity and honour for doing so, holding his ground admist the constant ongoing jeering and ridicule. And he's made a few quid from it too, money well earned in my opinion.

[By Jove Old Chap]

I have read several David Icke books and I was wondering what people have thought of him. I do not personally know anybody who I can talk to face to face about this type of thing and not come across as a complete lunatic. I was wondering if "Bill or Kerry" or anybody for that matter has had a chance to personally speek with David?

~~~

I was very lucky to meet and listen to David Icke for the 1st time in Coventry, England, many years ago, along with three friends. It was at this speech that he first disclosed information about Cathy O'Brien and explained how she had been a mind controlled slave for Presidents and drug dealers. He was very careful how he presented this information and it was clear that he only wanted to present the facts.

He has performed an immense task of 'telling what he knows' so that we could be better informed and prepared for events, which are all designed and lead to a carefully planned 'New World Order'.

He has been teaching this over, and over, for years now and yet he has never been swayed or bribed to shut up!

He stuck his neck on the line and faced ridicule for years before the penny started to drop and people finally began reading his books and listening to him.

I wonder how many of us here could do what he has done?

In one interview he tells how his son was tormented and bullied at school, simply because he was the son of David Icke.

How would YOU explain to YOUR son, that YOUR 'work' had to continue as it was important to help others, when he and your whole family are being scorned and ridiculed, just because of YOU and what YOU SAY?

It is clear to me, that virtually no one else could have done what HE has done, and stayed the course long enough to see the rewards of his work.

I am in AWE of his dedication and commitment to helping others.

Question:
Would YOU stand up and talk about Lizards and Reptilians and how 'they' can 'shape-shift' between dimensions or change their outward appearance?

Bet the answer is NO! - and the reason is because YOU don't want to LOOK or SOUND like an IDIOT, DO YOU?

YOU are frightened of what people might THINK!

Well, if YOU were David Icke and YOU had stayed the course like him, isn't it likely that people would recognise YOU as a man who is NOT frightened to expose the TRUTH? [same as Project Camelot]

Now if several people approached YOU in confidence and from different parts of the World, with different backgrounds and they ALL told YOU a similar story about how there are 'Lizards' or 'Reptilians' who can 'shape-shift' and change their appearance at will, or otherwise, what would YOU think?

Would YOU treat them all as IDIOTS, or would YOU interview and check out all their stories to see IF there could be ANY TRUTH in their stories?

And just suppose, after extensive research and futher direct contacts, etc., etc., this CRAZY story started to make SENSE and YOU believed it WAS in fact the TRUTH, WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT IT?

Would YOU stand up in a theatre and tell hundreds of people who have paid good money about 'Reptilians' and how they can 'shapeshift' into another dimension?

OR WOULD YOU SHUT UP AND TELL NO ONE, FOR FEAR OF WHAT PEOPLE MIGHT THINK...???

That is WHY David Icke IS what he IS, and WHY he tells us the TRUTH, no matter how FOOLISH it may make him APPEAR to YOU, to me or to others!

~~~

You know something?

it's SILLY really...

we have REAL IDIOTS leading COUNTRIES AND Nations and controlling the destiny of the Planet, making Wars and mercilessly KILLING thousands of innocent human beings without a single tear being shed... and the strange thing is...

... THEY NEVER TELL US THE TRUTH...!!!


~~~
A dream...

... If ONLY we could find a President, or a Prime Minister, with a FRACTION of David Icke's courage, persistence and determination to SINCERELY help others, we would ALL be so much CLOSER to A WORLD OF PEACE.

~~~

Like David Icke, Kerry and Bill of Project Camelot are also recognised as exposing the Truth, even though some of the information is crazy, and that is also why the Whistleblowers know they can Trust them with their information!
~~~

Don't believe in Lizards/Reptilians? - watch this and CONVINCE me it's a joke!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaaubr3nnHI

[THE eXchanger]

[/SIZE]
~~~
Don't believe in Lizards/Reptilians? - watch this and CONVINCE me it's a joke!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaaubr3nnHI[/COLOR]
I have always admired David Icke,
he would be a gr8 person to interview ...
he tells it like it is, and, does NOT stand down !!!
An excellent definition Jove Old Chap,
you put a lovely spin on, "it takes one, to notice one" :)

It is refreshing to see threads that celebrate people,
who are doing what, we should be doing !!!

I look forward to hearing that interview

Brightest blessings to all

susan
the eXchanger

[Stephen]

Well, I have not always admired David Icke.
It took me awhile to to fully understand his message and give him the benefit of the doubt.

However, after watching a few of his more recent videos I have come to respect the man.
Does he have all the answers? Of course not.
Does he have people's interests in mind? I believe he does.
Does he make some kind of a 'living' off of what he tells people? Yes.
However, I do not care. Because he doesn't charge for EVERYthing.
He does give a lot away and I see no problem with people trying to make a living.
I do not see this man as 'Rich'.

I see him as a person that is trying to do the right thing.
He is a 'Herald', a 'Town Crier'.
Some have called him a Prophet. Most people (that I know) misunderstand that term.
To be a Prophet in the sense of what David Icke is teaching means to Bring people back to the Truth.
I know many people and if you ask them what a prophet is they will mostly say: A Person that sees the future.

That is not what David Icke is. He is simply trying to Bring the Truth to People.
Or maybe better put: Reconciliation toward the Truth.

Many of the Old Testament 'Prophets' did just that.
This is why they were not liked very well.
The Truth was the last thing they wanted to hear....

[Zelphael]

I agree with your post 'By Jove Old Chap', he is a man of courage and you know what they say about prophets... they are never accepted in their home town (and I'll add, sometimes never at all).

Not saying that he is a prophet of God, haha... just an emissary of truth.

[Phtha]

Icke is great. Many people are scared to bring up subjects about the "agenda" even to their own friends and family. It takes a lot of will and courage to do it in front of so many strangers knowing full well he would be labeled a quack. We can all learn a lot from that I think.

[Mark]

Mr Icke really know his stuff - listen to him - he's right on the right page...my opinion...

[whitecrow]

I just figured that peopel on this site would have to have heard of him. I really dont think that the whole shape shifting reptilian idea is to hard to grasp once you have admitted the fact that aliens or beings from another demension have to exhist. I really cant believe that their are this many people waking up right at this very moment. At first I thought David Icke was a little optimistic when he said that the human concousness was going to prevail and we would realize our full potential. Now though it seems like we are on that track more than ever. I can feel it happening all around us and this fourm is such a giant step. Keep up the good work everybody.

LET YOUR LOVE SHINE ON

Rock on, Orion!

Some time in the 80s when I was living in Dallas, I was driving home one day and stopped at a light, I glanced over at the car next to me and the hair on the back of my neck stood up. The guy driving the perfectly ordinary car was perfectly ordinary himself, except that when I looked at him he was just changing from a lizard to a human being. I watched it happen. He never looked at me.

Okay, say I have a screw loose. You have my permission: a hallucination, sure. Except that I hadn't heard of shape-shifting reptilians at the time, didn't even have a computer I don't think. And except that I haven't had any other hallucinations. It was as real as anything. Years later I discovered the Internet I ran across this information, it was a very strange and creepy feeling.

I still don't know what I saw. Hey, I did a lot of acid when I was young. Like I always say, I have a propped-open mind. It's the only way to stay sane ;-)

[King Lear]

Rock on, Orion!

Some time in the 80s when I was living in Dallas, I was driving home one day and stopped at a light, I glanced over at the car next to me and the hair on the back of my neck stood up. The guy driving the perfectly ordinary car was perfectly ordinary himself, except that when I looked at him he was just changing from a lizard to a human being. I watched it happen. He never looked at me.

Okay, say I have a screw loose. You have my permission: a hallucination, sure. Except that I hadn't heard of shape-shifting reptilians at the time, didn't even have a computer I don't think. And except that I haven't had any other hallucinations. It was as real as anything. Years later I discovered the Internet I ran across this information, it was a very strange and creepy feeling.

I still don't know what I saw. Hey, I did a lot of acid when I was young. Like I always say, I have a propped-open mind. It's the only way to stay sane ;-)



Could you please tell us more about the process of shifting?
Where at his body did it start? Did you really see scales appearing?

And why do you and the others here, think they shift unwillingly from time to time, what causes this unmasking?

Is the shifting a real physical transformation? Or a holographic one?


I'm curious.

[Pithiny]

Phil Schneider's story changed my mind. Watch the Video.

Phil Schneider - Tribute
http://www.projectcamelot.org/schneider.html

Philip Schneider - Last Conference - November 1995
Text of the Video: http://www.burlingtonnews.net/schneider.html

The Video: http://www.ufo-blog.com/other_video_footage/conspiracy_theories_videos/watch_philip_schneider_in_conference.htm



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[lock'N'load]

Rock on, Orion!

Some time in the 80s when I was living in Dallas, I was driving home one day and stopped at a light, I glanced over at the car next to me and the hair on the back of my neck stood up. The guy driving the perfectly ordinary car was perfectly ordinary himself, except that when I looked at him he was just changing from a lizard to a human being. I watched it happen. He never looked at me.

Okay, say I have a screw loose. You have my permission: a hallucination, sure. Except that I hadn't heard of shape-shifting reptilians at the time, didn't even have a computer I don't think. And except that I haven't had any other hallucinations. It was as real as anything. Years later I discovered the Internet I ran across this information, it was a very strange and creepy feeling.

I still don't know what I saw. Hey, I did a lot of acid when I was young. Like I always say, I have a propped-open mind. It's the only way to stay sane ;-)


Very interesting that you say that.
I know from first hand experience and the experience of others that taking acid can sometimes remove certain filters in our brain that usually regulate our normal perception.
When taking acid a person can see an other person in their true form, just like what you saw.

Theres a great mention of this in the film called 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas'


Your not nuts :thumb_yello: the acid just helped you see things as they really were.

[robyn]

I've been once to hear him speak, from 10am to 7pm with a few breaks. He had all those hours to speak but, still I have never heard someone speak so fast. So much info to impart. The 'feel' or 'vibe' at the talk was good, or so it seemed to me. To the extent that, when I went home, I was so energized that people were hanging on to me to abosrb it. Which was kind of interesting.

Over time, I find he's been spot on with most of his info.

Of course, his material is secondhand. The info we, Kerry and Bill have from everyone that has spoken on PC is second hand. We will never see the inside of Area 51 like some of the witnesses, just second hand info. David does his homework, interviews people and we read it or hear his lecture. It's the same thing.

As for the reptile thing, I have no idea, but it's no more strange than fairies, ghosts, nature spirits, other dimensions etc.

[sunnyrap]

Hey, if you watched the YouTube by the English guard (Bill) who worked at the underground facility (I believe in David's neck of the woods), you heard him testify that the Black Ops were doing genetic modification experiments, and the 'lizard guy' that he saw first hand, he believed to be the result of those experiments. This makes a kind of wicked, unnatural sense to me as there are a bunch of stories leaked on the 'net about 'Island of Dr. Moreau' type activites. Just strikes me as logical (if deplorable) that the BlackOps boys would do some genetic engineering (possibly with collusion with self-serving aliens) to create a phony ET to do their dirty-work for them--plus allow them to create validation to the 'et's are out to get us' scenario. In any case, as wild as it sounds, it could be that David was victimized by these precisely because he's been so outspoken.

Just a (wild) thought...

[Jasper]

Hey Sunnyrap, have you got a link for that Youtube?

[Morgan]

Great thread, especially the post about witnessing the shapeshift! Wow. :shocked:

I first heard of David Icke mentioned in an interview with a musician on television a few years back now. I had no idea what I was getting into when I picked up 'And the Truth Shall Set You Free'. He's still my favourite person in the field, if you will. Seldom do I leave conspiracy research feeling inspired; Icke really gives one something to hope for, something to do. I'd thank him for it if I ever get the chance.

His interviews up at Conscious Media Network (consciousmedianetwork.com) are really fascinating, too. For instance, the first one 'his early years' - I had no idea about his history and the ridicule etc. he went through, so that was some good learning.

[Ampgod]

If I had to guess on if they were doing underground genetic testing in the past i'd probably bank on it.
I can only imagine the monstrosities that where created using probably unwilling human participants.



Ampgod

[draconine]

It is with great pain I interrupt my viewing of the David Icke talk linked earlier in this thread. I started off hoping to catch a few interesting points before I drifted off to sleep, but I now I lay awake as he goes on explaining huge phenomena in great clarity and remarkable insight.

The amount of information he gives away is so astounding that you can only wonder how he is permitted to keep talking. The way I see it, the self-inflicted wound to his reputation by mentioning reptilians is the only reason he gets away with spilling everything else. After all, how many people would buy a story like that? I find it hard to believe that he expected anything but ridicule after coming out with that. It now seems to me that the only way he could have pulled this off was to discredit himself to the point of being considered harmless.

We live in an age where information is more valuable than ever, while it's access is being manipulated more heavily than ever. The truth these days is worth more than gold. I need to finish this video.

[King Lear]

But he also makes great mistakes in his line of argument.
As David Wilcock and Alex Jones do too.

You cannot prove everything only by symbolism!

For example: first he shows a "Skull and Bones Symbol", then a photo of SS-Oberstgruppenführer Sepp Dietrich (Comander of the LSAH) wearing a fur cap with a big death's head symbol on it, then a picture of 1890-1918 of the German Kaiser Wilhelm II. wearing a fur cap with a death's head symbol on it too.

But what Icke and the others don't mention all these examples aren't related! If they were so, are pirates and the Jackass crew also a part of this big conspiracy of death? Because they too have a death's head as a symbol.

Now I will explain step by step why the particular persons/groups actually wore death's head symbols.

The SS: They took this symbol in 1919/20 not because they wanted to manage KZ's in 25 years and be death angels. No. It simply was a symbol for their intention to protect their "Führer" Hitler till death, i.e. that they would risk their own lives. SS=Schutzstaffel=Security Squad
And that's the reason why Sepp Dietrich wore it on that particuliar photo, and not because he was related to Skull & Bones or another worldwide conspiracy.

Also German Panzer troops had the death's head as a symbol on their collar patches, but they were absolutely not related to the SS! They just were a plain motorizised branch of the German military. Perhaps they wore this symbol on their collar patches, just because they saw themselves as a modern version of the Hussars.

The 2nd example: Kaiser Wilhelm II. He wore that fur cap just because it was a part of the Hussar's uniform (a cavalary unit) and he used to wear almost every day a different uniform of a different branch of military service. It was just to pay tribute to them and to show his respect. They weren't related to Skull & Bones, nor the SS, nor any conspiracy.
The Hussars, just as the SS, wore this symbol to show their intention to risk their lives!
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/pt/pelzmutze.htm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Prussian_hussars.jpg/605px-Prussian_hussars.jpg


This whole false symbolism and all the false connections, which occur, is a bit like the UFO disease, which John Lear describes. I myself believe indeed in some conspiracies but we shall not make them up by false assumptions! That's a red herring.

[Vandalis]

David will be on Coast to Coast this week. Hoorah, another late night for me just so i can listen to the show!

[Orion Morris]

King Lear... I agree with you that you cannot prove everything just by symbolism. However, David Icke has never tried to prove everything just with symbolism. As for the Hussars and the SS, yes they wore the symbol as a their sign to show their willingness to risk their own lives but that is probably not the origin of the symbol. Just because the Jackass crew is not aware of what the symbol originally ment does not mean that the symbol holds the same meaning that it originally did.

[King Lear]

King Lear... I agree with you that you cannot prove everything just by symbolism. However, David Icke has never tried to prove everything just with symbolism. As for the Hussars and the SS, yes they wore the symbol as a their sign to show their willingness to risk their own lives but that is probably not the origin of the symbol. Just because the Jackass crew is not aware of what the symbol originally ment does not mean that the symbol holds the same meaning that it originally did.



Originally this symbol meant only death!
Nothing more nothing less.
It had no worth, nor negatative and nor positve.


But groups used this symbol and gave it a worth.
Skull and Bones took it and gave it a occult worth.

Others just took it just for military purpose, to express their willingness to risk their life.

And also we use it today to mark dangerous areas or dangerous ingrediences and the Jackass Crew uses it just for fun, to express the risk of their weird stunts.

But all uses of this symbol are independant and have no connection!
And there is no transition of a dark magical deeper sense in just re-using this simple symbol!

[Orion Morris]

Sorry King Lear.... Originally the symbol was used by the Knights Templar, so it is easy to see where Mr. Icke among others would connect the dots there with the secret societies.

[King Lear]

Knights Templar?
Do you have any proofs for that?

I only now that they used this white-black flag with a red cross pattée as a symbol.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7d/Templar_Flag_6.svg/120px-Templar_Flag_6.svg.png


If you make an allusion on the Baphomet, these are only assumptions.
There's no proof that this thing ever really existed, nor what it really was.
In fact it could have been also something positve, just misunderstood.
And we shall also not forget the negative propaganda which did hit the Templars after the French king started to wipe them out to gain their welth.

And I'm also sure that humans used this simple symbol even before the Templars. Just think of the Atzteks, the Mayans...

[Orion Morris]

Well I think you should do some research on the Skull and Crossbones symbol. Maybe you should read an Icke book or two. Also, I think that the negativity in the symbol speaks for itself with the visual image carries. I dont think you could argue that the symbol gives off good vibes.

[King Lear]

Well I think you should do some research on the Skull and Crossbones symbol. Maybe you should read an Icke book or two. Also, I think that the negativity in the symbol speaks for itself with the visual image carries. I dont think you could argue that the symbol gives off good vibes.

Sorry for that but I saw some lectures and movies of Mr. Icke, and that was enough for me.
I do agree with him on worldwide conspiracies which want to harm us, but in some particuliar things he is simply wrong, because he doesn't understand history properly. There is also the fact that he has a certain influencing ideologic background. He once was in the Green Party.


And why is the skull/death's head a priori negative?
We all have one under our skin, muscles and flesh.
In fact we are the death's head.

[Orion Morris]

What version of history are you talking about? The one that you learned in school? I really think you should read one of his books, there you could learn about why he was in the green party and why he left. You really cant judge him or say that he has the wrong version of history when you have never read his books. Plus history is never correct anyways because it is always tainted and rearranged to suit the side that one.

[Jacqui D]

I have to say i am an ardent fan of david i have been reading his stuff and watching his videos for around 7 years.
David opened my eyes so to speak reading his book the children of the matrix was so fascinating that i couldn't put it down.
he has been reseaching this knowledge for many years says it how it is.
He has been ridiculed and put down but i think he has been very brave and stood up for his beliefs when all around him people have laughed and called him insane.
i absolutely believe in the reptilian race the are shapeshifting beings who are on this earth today.
And if you look about you it's not hard to see one believe me not in it's full form of course but the tell tale signs are there.
Look for the eyes they are generally black or snake like.
I have come across these creatures in the outer dimentions they are scary beings large in size with a skin rather like leather than scally but it does overlap giving it the appearance of scales.
They also have a habit of moistening their lips (licking their lips continuously)

I congratulate him on his work he has tirelessly proved without doubt that these beings do run our world it;s scary but true:jawdrop:

[King Lear]

What version of history are you talking about? The one that you learned in school? I really think you should read one of his books, there you could learn about why he was in the green party and why he left. You really cant judge him or say that he has the wrong version of history when you have never read his books. Plus history is never correct anyways because it is always tainted and rearranged to suit the side that one.


So, you want to say that in all the dozen hours of interviews, movies and lectures which I saw of him he doesn't say the same things he wrote in his books?!?

Man, I've read this stuff soooo many times in other books of the same genre. Authors like Marrs, Allan, van Helsing....

And yes, you're are right history is never written totally right.
One has to search and to check everything, but also one has not to merge it with esoteric believes. That is totally misleading.


And just for the files, I also concerned myself with history when I've left school. Indeed my whole living-room is full with history books.
So don't make a careless judgement of me.

[martrixmel]

I have read several David Icke books and I was wondering what people have thought of him. I do not personally know anybody who I can talk to face to face about this type of thing and not come across as a complete lunatic. I was wondering if "Bill or Kerry" or anybody for that matter has had a chance to personally speek with David?

david icke opened my eyes,which eventually led to all else....

[macrostheblack]

Hello all, I can remember David Icke when he was on TV and discussing football etc. When he announced that he was a snow plough i just thought he was having a breakdown and left it at that.

Nowadays i have a great respect for the man. I think he is a very brave and caring person who talks of truths that we all prefer to ignore. I`m still not 100% sure of everything he talks about though - but find alot of other sources discussing similar ideas that he came out with a decade+ ago.

He is a very gifted person.

[Antaletriangle]

Yeah i agree he is a hero;bearing in mind;sacrificing his own career to open the eyes of the world up in these times is an heroic act in itself-qualities of piety.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18tRLhMMnNc

[2infinityandbeyond]

Yeah i agree he is a hero;bearing in mind;sacrificing his own career to open the eyes of the world up in these times is an heroic act in itself-qualities of piety.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18tRLhMMnNc


So very very true. He is a man who risked everything to expose the lies and the corruption of this little planet.
And in doing so he brought ridicule onto himself and his family, a purely selfless act.

And it is acts like these that pave the way for us to be one with our divinity again.

We love you David!!

[By Jove Old Chap]

David Icke is a legend! I have never had the chance to see him live on stage but hopefully one day I will. :mfr_lol:


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[dragonfly]

Davide Icke is on C2C Radio tonight!

The first book I came across after 911 was "The Truth Shall Set You Free". That started my dive into what is really going on on all levels of control freaks. He has a lot of courage. Some of the info is on the weird meter, but what isn't anymore? All possibilies are possible.

[Gnosis5]

I like his philosophy of love, but I personally have never seen anyone shape shifting and so I can only wonder at this point.



Yeah i agree he is a hero;bearing in mind;sacrificing his own career to open the eyes of the world up in these times is an heroic act in itself-qualities of piety.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18tRLhMMnNc

[Norval]

Listening to the show on C to C, at least he makes the connection about "those in control are non human".

[King Lear]

I listened to the show,
but this time he was really wooly and vazily.
He didn't really want to say something. It was more a philosophing lecture this time.

But i found something in the net to think about;)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/Harmonster/David_Icke_is_your_friend.jpg
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/guestwriters/stn/images/di.jpg
http://images.google.de/url?q=http://ashtarcommandtruth.com/Pictures/david_icke_reptilian.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFg7GIKRMjp0S7abpsx3IUXRw4YVQ
:lmao::naughty::mfr_lol::roll1::roll1::biggrin2: :naughty:

[Mark]

I was Daive Icke talk in the 90's at the Glastonbury Festive. He was talking for Greenpeace and was very intersting. I've read a lot of his material and have seen a fair few of his talks via YouTube. THe name might have gone off a little when he fist began this quest, but now, he talks a lot of truth - I feel - and feelings - instict is everything to me at the moment. who do I trust if I can't trust myself?