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Carol
12-15-2008, 05:06 PM
In Utah, the Parowan Prophet predicts disaster will prevent Obama from taking office
The Parowan Prophet

Leland Freeborn and 12 other survivalists meet every Monday at his home. The group believes Leland is a prophet and they come to hear his predictions. 'He will not be the next president,' Leland Freeborn warns those who will listen. He and his followers expect nuclear explosions this Christmas season.
By PETER H. KING

December 13, 2008
Reporting from Parowan, Utah -- Our trip to the Parowan Prophet began with a letter to the St. George Spectrum. It was set among missives proposing that oil companies bail out Detroit automakers, that county inmates be forced to winter in tents, that lawyers be barred from public office. A rough crowd.

This particular letter to the editor in the St. George, Utah, newspaper carried the headline " 'Prophet' shares grim forecast," and it was signed by one Leland Freeborn of Parowan, who wrote that he was known to many as the Parowan Prophet.

After establishing his bona fides as an international talk radio guest and proprietor of a survivalist website that has "passed more than 100,000 hits," Freeborn wrote:

"I think that you should hear what my opinion about the Obama election is: that he will not be the next president. I said on my home page in August that if he lost to expect to see the 'riots' that 2 Peter 2:13 tells us about. He didn't lose. But the story is not finished yet. I still think they may begin the riots before Christmas 2008, as I said."

These riots, according to his prophecy, will encourage the "old, hard-line Soviet guard" to seize the moment and rain down nukes on the United States, killing at least 100 million of us.

"Prepare now," Freeborn's letter concluded. "We are downwind from Las Vegas. I hope you can survive."

It took an hour to reach the prophet, a high-country drive through stunning red-rock formations, the color of which matches the politics in this corner of southern Utah. A freeway billboard, depicting a nuclear mushroom cloud, provided directions to the prophet's two-story house.

The frontyard seemed a staging ground for rapid flight -- two or three motor boats, a raft, a canoe, a recreational vehicle and an old sedan, parked with its engine running.

The man who answered our unexpected knock wore a cowboy hat with a big feather stuck in the band, and a beard suggestive of St. Nick. We asked to see the prophet. He said we had the right guy.

Freeborn hobbled out the door on crutches and eased into a wheelchair on the porch. As it turned out, he was heating the car not for rapid escape from a nuclear cloud, but to take a neighbor to the doctor.

"I only have nine minutes," he said.

It was enough time to sketch out his history -- a Mormon of substance, a father of 12, he had crashed his airplane in 1975 and fallen into a three-week coma, during which he went through "to the other side" and emerged a prophet.

Freeborn, now 66, took "a plural wife," as he put it, and parted ways with the church. He forfeited his wealth, spreading word of his prophecies. He appears to live now mainly on sales of newsletters and survival information packets advertised on his website.

Asked for examples of successful prophecies, he offered O.J. Simpson's murder acquittal and Al Gore's winning of the popular vote in 2000. But his core insight has been a repeated dream of seeing nuclear flashes to the west while shopping at a Wal-Mart during Christmas season.

And this, he warned, appears to be the year.

As Freeborn rose to leave, he said he would be hosting a weekly religious meeting that night. He urged us to come.

"If you can write a story," Freeborn said, "you can save a lot of lives in L.A."

There were about a dozen believers in the two front rooms, men and women of all ages, squeezed together on couches and dining room chairs.

All of them had broken with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints over polygamy and other departures from what they believe was the original vision of the church founder Joseph Smith. And all said they regarded Freeborn a prophet.

The cluttered room was filled with Bibles and religious tracts, government maps depicting potential nuclear targets, and framed photographs of mushroom clouds.


For 90 minutes -- while two boys played on the carpet with a calculator and a marked-up Book of Mormon -- the adults read aloud selected biblical verses, passages from Smith's biography and text pulled from an unidentified website.

After each reading, they discussed how these fragments all pointed to a singular end: nuclear destruction brought on by the Lord's wrath.

Freeborn sprawled in a stuffed chair, directing the discussion and sometimes correcting his acolytes. It was a congenial group, but not much given to small talk. As the night wound down, Freeborn returned to his core prophecy.

"I really believe we are out of time," he said. "I really do."

Freeborn conceded that he'd issued similar warnings many times before, and still the world kept spinning. Prophecy, he said, is not an exact science.

"I've been at it for 30 years, and I have always really believed it," he said. "Now, if we go on, that's great. Maybe we can get some more people to repent."

He seemed weary, referring to himself as a "gimpy old crippled guy from Parowan." He described going on radio and, mocked by the host, receiving not a single request from the audience for survival information. He said he has been shunned in town, his property vandalized. He recited from memory a scriptural passage about "scoffers."

The prophet's eyes reddened, and I could sense his frustration as he sized us up as two more likely nonsubscribers. As he dropped his head in contemplation, it occurred to me: How terrible it must be to believe what this man truly appears to believe, and yet have so few willing to listen.

Perhaps for our benefit, the group volunteered some secular support for Freeborn's prophecy. Perhaps economic meltdown would trigger the riots. Maybe there would be an uprising over an automaker bailout.

"One thought you might have," came a voice from somewhere behind me, "is that we don't have any leadership now until January. See what I am saying? We are in limbo. If they do something tomorrow, who is going to decide?"

The night's last word belonged to the prophet.

"Everything is coming together," Freeborn said, "and it fits right now."

He presented us with brown medicine bottles filled with iodide crystals -- to ward off the effects of radiation.

"I don't think you are going to finish your trip back East," the Parowan Prophet said, urging us to reconsider our journey to the inauguration.

Nonetheless, with our little brown bottles of iodide, we will press on. The rest of you are warned.



http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-moment13-2008dec13,0,2231803.story

Antaletriangle
12-15-2008, 05:34 PM
Wild stuff there Carol-i wonder if Bill Deagle will be proved right if not out by a few months??!!!Worrying,not saying this guy is correct but beware false prophets etc. etc.They also certainly pick their prime time tv slots-xmas an all.

Sol Invictus
12-15-2008, 05:43 PM
Now I am aware that we have a 'january suprise' coming down the pipe line thanks to Binden and Powell, after repeated 'he will be tested' comments.

So Jan 21 / 22nd is chalked up.

This one though is a new one.

Pays to keep an open mind though, as war and catastrophe have deep meaning inside a dream of massive upheavel, an ending of the old and a violent birth of the new.

Will watch with greta interest.

Jack
12-15-2008, 06:07 PM
Interesting.

Although its come to the stage now where we've seen so many failed predictions that its difficult to take any of them seriously anymore. But all the same, its good to have a potential heads up just in case. At the moment, that feels like a rather large 'just in case'.

mntruthseeker
12-15-2008, 06:11 PM
Apparently this has been repeated many times over.

I know this is what bush has in the back of his mind. Its always been the plan. But the plan already changed once as it is not Hillary that they are pushing out ! Bush II is to be the last US President !!!!!

Interesting reading ! I am going to do a google search on this man

Already warming us up on their phoney nuclear attack story by the terrorist on Fox news last night. So sad and so many without a concious or soul

Dantheman62
12-15-2008, 09:35 PM
hmmm another prophetic prediction, hmmm not sure what to think really. Guess I'll keep both eyes and ears open!

Carol
12-16-2008, 06:52 AM
Usually I find this stuff a bit far out there. However, what caught my attention is what is going on with Russia and their ships being in Latin American followed up by a sumit they are holding with China and Russia which exclude the US.

USA Excluded From Latin American Summit as China, Russia, Iran Loom Large...

So it makes me wonder. I don't think.. or I should say don't what to think that there will be nuclear attack on the US. What I sense is more on the horizon is a massive rebellion by the the middle class. Right now in this state 70 percent of the construction workers are out of work. How does this phenonomen play out across the nation? Look at how the weather is taking out cities and towns and then the economy in general. Then I wonder about what these other countries are doing Russia, China and Latin America. What are they thinking? What are their plans?

Indeed, all of these events gives one pause. The US is the target and the worst part is the average GP is clueless. It really is anyones guess as to how this is going to unfold.

Humble Janitor
12-16-2008, 09:52 AM
Interesting.

Although its come to the stage now where we've seen so many failed predictions that its difficult to take any of them seriously anymore. But all the same, its good to have a potential heads up just in case. At the moment, that feels like a rather large 'just in case'.

I have to agree and while I don't discount this guy, I don't think that his "prediction" will necessary come true.

He fails to take into account that we can influence things and steer them away from such a disaster.

Humble Janitor
12-16-2008, 09:54 AM
Usually I find this stuff and bit far out there. However, what caught my attention is what is going on with Russia and their ships being in Latin American followed up by a sumit they are holding with China and Russia which exclude the US.

USA Excluded From Latin American Summit as China, Russia, Iran Loom Large...

So it makes me wonder. I don't think.. or I should say don't what to think that there will be nuclear attack on the US. What I sense is more on the horizon is a massive rebellion by the the middle class. Right now in this state 70 percent of the construction workers are out of work. How does this phenonomen play out across the nation? Look at how the weather is taking out cities and towns and then the economy in general. Then I wonder about what these other countries are doing Russia, China and Latin America. What are they thinking? What are their plans?

Indeed, all of these events gives one pause. The US is the target and the worst part is the average GP is clueless. It really is anyones guess as to how this is going to unfold.

I think they are looking to take advantage of any chaos that may result in this country, whether it's nuclear bombs or TEC (Total Economic Collapse) or any of those factors.

Let's just say that when Bush branded Iran, Venezuela and other countries as the "Axis of Evil", he screwed over the majority of Americans.

iainl140285
12-16-2008, 11:47 AM
The thing I do not get if they play the terrorist card is - how do they expect us to believe that a 'terrorist' got hold of a nuclear weapon?? I mean seriously! :wall:

Will they have us believe that it was constructed it on US soil by terrorists? - no chance

Will they have us believe it was brought from overseas onto US soil - not freakin likely! You cant even bring certain sweets into the country!

I guess this leaves the Russian ships ...

Hopefully the ETs will see fit to come give us a hand.



Peace
Iain

Myplanet2
12-16-2008, 01:49 PM
I see the Russian move a little differently. It looks more like they are calling out "check".

The chess game is still very much active, but the Russians decided not to let themselves be boxed in by the US missile defence shield.

Other moves were strengthening partnerships with Syria, Iran, Argentina, Nicaragua, and now Cuba, and in thwarting the US/Israeli "play" in Georgia.

I don't believe for a second that the Russians have any intention of attacking USA.

Carol
12-16-2008, 05:42 PM
The thing I do not get if they play the terrorist card is - how do they expect us to believe that a 'terrorist' got hold of a nuclear weapon?? I mean seriously! :wall:

Will they have us believe that it was constructed it on US soil by terrorists? - no chance

Will they have us believe it was brought from overseas onto US soil - not freakin likely! You cant even bring certain sweets into the country!

I guess this leaves the Russian ships ...

Hopefully the ETs will see fit to come give us a hand.



Peace
Iain

Iain, think shipping containers which are shipped all over the world every day of the week. It's impossible to inspect all of them and stuff gets in illegally all the time.

Carol
12-16-2008, 05:45 PM
By the way, I'm in count down mode. Only 34 more days for Bush to remain in office. I still see a very strong possibility of Obama taken out and Biden stepping in. That doesn't please me in the least.

Steve_A
12-16-2008, 07:16 PM
Hi Carol,

I shouldn't rule out diplomatic baggage either...

Best regards,

Steve


Iain, think shipping containers which are shipped all over the world every day of the week. It's impossible to inspect all of them and stuff gets in illegally all the time.

waitinginthewings
12-16-2008, 09:08 PM
My feeling is "expect the unexpected" from hereon in. So many of the prophecies have not happened, so take them with a pinch of salt. There are more than a few behind the scenes playing the game, each for their own purpose. They too know about the prophecies. Indeed the great unseen battle is in full swing.

We have to focus now on just the present moment....because we can no longer say for sure what will happen in the next few hours. Perhaps this is our current lesson. Peace, strength, & courage to all.:original:

Humble Janitor
12-16-2008, 09:37 PM
By the way, I'm in count down mode. Only 34 more days for Bush to remain in office. I still see a very strong possibility of Obama taken out and Biden stepping in. That doesn't please me in the least.

If we keep talking about it, it will happen.

If we refuse to fall for it, it will not.

Again, call me naive but I believe we all have the power to thrwart negative events.

Carrie1971
12-16-2008, 09:43 PM
If we keep talking about it, it will happen.

If we refuse to fall for it, it will not.

Again, call me naive but I believe we all have the power to thrwart negative events.

You took the words in my brain and wrote them down. I am not spending any time on the "what if" or "it could" or "what someone thinks" my brain needs to be thinking better things for the days to come. A new world without all this type of thinking. I feel sorry for the "followers" not of just this "Prophet" but of any and all who are searching on the outside looking. The answers are within our own mind.

Jack
12-16-2008, 10:30 PM
Usually I find this stuff a bit far out there. However, what caught my attention is what is going on with Russia and their ships being in Latin American followed up by a sumit they are holding with China and Russia which exclude the US.


Yes, i just noticed that last night Carol. A strange coincidence indeed.

Not only that but with the added problem of 'open office' it seems that the moment is ripe for one of the many angry states to make an attack.

Its also strange that Camelot is under 'DoS' attacks recently, someone wants it offline at this present moment. So many questions..

Barron
12-17-2008, 12:35 AM
Yes I am not convinced Obama will last all that long, especially after the very recent publication of the amazing book Obama - The Unauthorised Biography brought to you by the same author(s) as George Bush (Snr.) - The Unauthorised Biography about 20 years or so ago. This is the editorial from Amazon: (get it while you still can)

Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography by Webster Griffin Tarpley.

Editorial Reviews:
Product Description
Written by the author of the legendary 1992 expose of Bush the elder, this book works from a New Deal point of view. Obama is exposed as a foundation operative and agent of Wall Street finance capital, controlled by Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Soros, and Goldman Sachs. Obama's mother was an official of the Ford Foundation, the World Bank, and US AID. By all indications, Obama was identified for future political use by Brzezinski at Columbia in 1981-1983, during Obama's secret lost years. Obama has worked for the Gamaliel Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, the Woods Fund, and the Annenberg Foundation. A community organizer is a poverty pimp, a cynical opportunist who uses suffering people as a political commodity. The foundation strategy is divide and conquer, pitting blacks and against whites against Hispanics against Asians - to prevent any challenge to Wall Street. Racist provocateurs like Wright and Pfleger, along with Weatherman terrorist bombers Ayers and Dohrn - Obama's best friends - are cast in this mold. Rezko, Auchi, and Al-Sammarae represent the cesspool of Chicago graft and corruption in which Obama cavorts. Schooled in Nietzsche and Fanon, Obama qualifies as a postmodern fascist. An Obama administration would strive for brutal economic sacrifice and austerity to finance Wall Street bailouts, and for imperialist confrontation with Russia and China.

Czymra
12-17-2008, 01:28 AM
Yes, i just noticed that last night Carol. A strange coincidence indeed.

Not only that but with the added problem of 'open office' it seems that the moment is ripe for one of the many angry states to make an attack.

Its also strange that Camelot is under 'DoS' attacks recently, someone wants it offline at this present moment. So many questions..

Now let's focus some positive energy for those circuits... so we are at least digitally aware.

Humble Janitor
12-17-2008, 02:40 AM
Yes I am not convinced Obama will last all that long, especially after the very recent publication of the amazing book Obama - The Unauthorised Biography brought to you by the same author(s) as George Bush (Snr.) - The Unauthorised Biography about 20 years or so ago. This is the editorial from Amazon: (get it while you still can)

Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography by Webster Griffin Tarpley.

Editorial Reviews:
Product Description
Written by the author of the legendary 1992 expose of Bush the elder, this book works from a New Deal point of view. Obama is exposed as a foundation operative and agent of Wall Street finance capital, controlled by Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Soros, and Goldman Sachs. Obama's mother was an official of the Ford Foundation, the World Bank, and US AID. By all indications, Obama was identified for future political use by Brzezinski at Columbia in 1981-1983, during Obama's secret lost years. Obama has worked for the Gamaliel Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, the Woods Fund, and the Annenberg Foundation. A community organizer is a poverty pimp, a cynical opportunist who uses suffering people as a political commodity. The foundation strategy is divide and conquer, pitting blacks and against whites against Hispanics against Asians - to prevent any challenge to Wall Street. Racist provocateurs like Wright and Pfleger, along with Weatherman terrorist bombers Ayers and Dohrn - Obama's best friends - are cast in this mold. Rezko, Auchi, and Al-Sammarae represent the cesspool of Chicago graft and corruption in which Obama cavorts. Schooled in Nietzsche and Fanon, Obama qualifies as a postmodern fascist. An Obama administration would strive for brutal economic sacrifice and austerity to finance Wall Street bailouts, and for imperialist confrontation with Russia and China.

Sounds like another hit piece from some guy looking to "cash in" on all of the Obama hatred.