EXPOSING Al Gore's Global Warming SCAM!

[Ashatav]

"1 trillion, a million billion" Reasons to expose Al Gore

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa187/Tatonka322/759-al-gore-fire.jpg


Hi all! :original:

Disclaimer (haha): This post is to make you more prepared about the topic (if you don't know about this before hehehe) and make you have more informed judgements about the Global Warming Scam.




Yes, is bad to pollute the penguins with oil.
Yes, is bad to pollute the world with Zinc mines and similars (like the one who Owns Gore until 2003)
Yes, is bad to expose the people to depleted uranium and similars.
Yes is bad. yes is bad..


But, Mr. Gore...

You and your friends Don't care about the enviroment really, in fact, you Mr. Gore and your friends pollute more than 99.99% of the rest of humanity! (the big industries bussines).

Why, Mr. Gore, in One of your houses the spending of electricity is Twelve times higher than the standar american house?
And you have three of them? :mfr_omg:
Why, Mr. Gore, you have a private jet if one travel in one of these uses the same amount of air of a little town in a year? :mad3:
And that infamous tv commercial with the dam... Why? (haha research on it)
Rise founding in budhists temples? That one is very low.... (not in topic haha, researc on it to haha)


Hi al gore!... Now to the DATA:


Scientific views:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/429832766_277f4d81aa_o.jpg



7 Scientific graphs to end the Global WArming Hype (http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_seven_graphs_to_end_the_warming_hype/)


Let the data speak for itself (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/14/climatechange-scienceofclimatechange)


Eight reasons to end the global warming scam (http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results.html?artId=11548)

Moore likely Ice Age (http://www.iceagenow.com/More_Links.htm)than Global "magic" Warming. Other good link about that theory (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0%2C25197%2C23583376-7583%2C00.html).

Primary cause of global warming spoted! (http://www.clayandiron.com/announcements.jhtml?method=view&announcements.id=76) (I put this link because the original is Deleted!)

http://i25.tinypic.com/2usy1q1.jpg



2008: The Year the “Consensus” Collapsed (http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=37283205-c4eb-4523-b1d3-c6e8faf14e84)


ARTIC REFUSES TO MELT AS ORDERED! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/15/goddard_arctic_ice_mystery/)

Scientist: "No evidence CO2 causes Global Warming" (http://riseuprochester.org/2008/07/22/top-rocket-scientist-co2-not-responsible/)

Global climate scam web page (http://www.globalclimatescam.com/)

A Great Scientific Movie about the Global Warming Scam:

The Great Global Warming Swindle (http://www.garagetv.be/video-galerij/blancostemrecht/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle_Documentary_Film. aspx)


(Reuters) — Criticizing Bush's Social Security privatization plan at a rally in Tennessee, Gore said, "He is proposing to privatize a big part of Social Security and he's proposing to take $1 trillion, a million billion dollars out of the Social Security trust fund and give it as a tax incentive to young workers."



Shorts »In Science, Ignorance is not Bliss (http://launchmagonline.com/walt-cunninghams-viewpoint/64-in-science-ignorance-is-not-bliss)

Political Views:

http://firstfriday.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/pope-gore.jpg


Climate Science... is really designed to answerd questions? (http://ecoworld.com/features/2008/10/30/climate-science-is-it-currently-designed-to-answer-questions/)
Skeletons in the closet (http://www.realchange.org/gore.htm)


http://www.green-agenda.com/images/banner.gif


The Green AGENDA (http://www.green-agenda.com/) (top web site with all the ties)

Al Gore, a Club of rome's brithish imperialist agent (http://www.larouchepub.com/lym/2008/3534gore_brit_genes.html) (you must understand, the british haven't bad things per se, the word "imperialist" in that phrase is the one who matters).


A Great Movie about the political intrige behind the Global Warming Scam:

Global Warming or Global Governance? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4860344067427439443&ei=rKpESfHbFpLAqAL5p7z4DA&q=the+global+warming+swindle)

Little minidocumentary to understand the origin in the Scam. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvcuylMrkXk&feature=related) In the end it review the real polluting al gore.

Scientists: "Man Made Global Warming is a Shaun" (http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/out-context/2008/Dec/10/scientists-global-warming-is-a-sham/)

Alaskan Glaciers Grow for First Time in 250 years (http://www.dailytech.com/Alaskan+Glaciers+Grow+for+First+Time+in+250+years/article13215.htm)

Scientists dissent about the man made global warming (http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2158072e-802a-23ad-45f0-274616db87e6)

Global Warming - Myth, Threat or Opportunity (http://www.sciencealert.com.au/opinions/20080508-17747.html)


Money money money


http://anhonestclimatedebate.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/algore-money.jpg?w=300&h=228



Financial ties (http://newsbusters.org/node/11149) of Al Gore in the Global Warming scam

Gore, an inconvenient tax scam (http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/03/al_gore_an_inco.html)

Carbon tax a threat to farming viability (http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4672525a3600.html)

Carbon credit sales scheme a con artist's dream (http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/story.html?id=31989503-ead6-4a40-90c0-28117e4dbc91&p=1)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4YFhK87NXPE/Rw-fb66U6yI/AAAAAAAAAXE/1n_NG8ayDyo/s400/AlGoreMoney.jpg


Farmers may pay a stiff price for contributions to global warming. (http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/opinion/103878.php)

New Zealand: Carbon Tax a Threat to Farming Viability (http://sl.farmonline.com.au/news/nationalrural/agribusiness-and-general/general/rudds-carbon-tax-bad-governance-says-vic-ag-scientist/1245628.aspx)

Rural industries face hit with emissions trading (http://www.qbr.com.au/index.cfm?storyid=35961&cp=displaystory&type=s)

Farmers to Bear Brunt of Global Warming Legislation (http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results.html?artId=23695)

(Let's remember that your food comes from the farming industry)

Renewable Portfolio Standards: Another Hidden Tax (http://www.globalwarming.org/node/2440)


Plain stupidity

http://www.xponex.com/images/AlGore.jpg


Quotes from Al Gore (http://www.gargaro.com/algore.html)


Drugs destroyed Al Gore Brain! (http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/gore.html)


Cheeers!

[peaceandlove]

Thanks Ashatav,

Did you notice during the big Global Warming world wide event broadcast on TV that GE and Johnson Products were the primary advertisers?

Has anyone else realized what was up with the promotion of this event.

GE wants you to buy bulbs with mercury in them and Johnson Products wants you to clean with their environmentally destructive chemicals????

Open your eyes people. This event primarily promoted GE and Johnson. Hellooooooooooooo. I refused to watch it as I knew it was just more subliminal control of the masses. Who was the puppet and who was the puppeteer?

[mntruthseeker]

Lol love your ads

[Ashatav]

Lol love your ads

Hahahaha are pure evilness MUAHAHAHA

[Ashatav]

Obama’s Energy Team has its Own ‘Inconvenient Truths’ (http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=251)

Evilness Muahahaha

[Humble Janitor]

Pretty pathetic that anyone would want to waste their time and energy trying to expose another human being.

How about just ignoring them?

I have seen many of these attempted exposes and they always come down to attacking Gore based on his political history or his house or other absurd things.

As for global warming as a hoax, you'd have to be insane to dismiss the changes our planet is going through. Gore is not alone in pointing out these changes, even if his book and film were sensationalist in nature.

After all, exposing people uses up a lot of energy that could be better spent elsewhere.

When Egg was talking about negative energy in these forums, this thread is the perfect example of what he/she meant.

[peaceandlove]

As for global warming as a hoax, you'd have to be insane to dismiss the changes our planet is going through.

Blessings Humble Janitor,

There is always a warm up before an ICE AGE, so I guess there would be some confusion as to what is actually happening to the weather.



Ashatav posted some great links:

Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0%2C25197%2C23583376-7583%2C00.html

Not by Fire, but by Ice
http://www.iceagenow.com/More_Links.htm

Some reviews not posted by Ashatav:
http://www.iceagenow.com/Reviews.htm

Record Lows - 2008 (United States)
http://www.iceagenow.com/Record_Lows_2008.htm

[alyscat]

And the above quotes explain how the other planets in our solar system are warming up how?

Chapman's article on the Australian News.com says "We cannot really know, but my guess is that the odds are at least 50-50 that we will see significant cooling rather than warming in coming decades."

Well, 50% is a maybe we will, maybe we won't, pretty undefinite, as I see it...

And IceAgeNow is not what I would call a particularly unbiased site <G>. It looks for articles that foster its particular theories.

That said, when you look at the charting of temps over the years back to the last ice age and before, they show that we are warming up, overall. That doesn't mean that we're going to be at 100 degrees consistently over time. And it doesn't mean that we won't go back into another ice age.

I wouldn't mind Ashatav making a point if he weren't so abusive of Al Gore in the process. His whole thread seems to be focused not on global warming, per se, but on an ad hominen attack against Gore -

Is global warming happening? At this point, Yes. Is it caused by an increase in CO2, and man caused? Well, they're correlated, does that mean they're caused? The jury on particular piece of information is still out. Evidently Gore had enough evidence to think so. And he used his celebrity to foster a concern that meant a lot to him.

Ashatev seems to have a particular political/religious agenda, which I've noticed in some other threads. Could it just possibly be that this is a continuation of that agenda? It's fine to have a belief system, but it's more honest to admit it up front.

alys

[Humble Janitor]

Blessings Humble Janitor,
There is always a warm up before an ICE AGE, so I guess there would be some confusion as to what is actually happening to the weather.
Ashatav posted some great links:

Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0%2C25197%2C23583376-7583%2C00.html

Not by Fire, but by Ice
http://www.iceagenow.com/More_Links.htm

Some reviews not posted by Ashatav:
http://www.iceagenow.com/Reviews.htm

Record Lows - 2008 (United States)
http://www.iceagenow.com/Record_Lows_2008.htm


I see too many similarities here. Who's to say that this ice age crapola isn't also nonsense like global warming?

[Ashatav]

Pretty pathetic that anyone would want to waste their time and energy trying to expose another human being.

How about just ignoring them?

I have seen many of these attempted exposes and they always come down to attacking Gore based on his political history or his house or other absurd things.

As for global warming as a hoax, you'd have to be insane to dismiss the changes our planet is going through. Gore is not alone in pointing out these changes, even if his book and film were sensationalist in nature.

After all, exposing people uses up a lot of energy that could be better spent elsewhere.

When Egg was talking about negative energy in these forums, this thread is the perfect example of what he/she meant.


"Prety patethic a people who believes in a lie and a Lier without investigate it, totally Blindly". do you think?

The CO2 cam will ultimatelly kill a Lot of people and makes more difficult to the less rich countries to advance in progress.

Are you backing that homicide plan?


Kissinger obtain the novel prize to (gived by the norwegan masons).


Cheers! and don't believe anithyng blindly, in fact, in the links are enought material to read!, by scientists, not amateurs like Gore who are backed up by the great Minority of the scientific community! :roll1:

[peaceandlove]

It's Cold Outside, But Global Warming Industry Still Hard At Work
by Christopher C. Horner
12/23/2008

The most expensive secret you’re not supposed to know is that George W. Bush leaves office with the planet cooler than when he entered. This dangerous trend threatens the multi-billion dollar “global warming” industry, adding new urgency to the ritual shriek of “we must act now!” in the scramble to impose a costly regime of mandates and energy taxes.

The global warming industry’s tactics already range from comical to reprehensible. As a result of a cooling atmosphere -- which thanks to the “global cooling” panic we began measuring in 1979 -- you are distracted with irrelevant surface temperatures. This is possibly because more than 90% of our surface thermometer network is in violation of rules for locating the instruments. For example, why are so many now on asphalt parking lots, black tar roofs, airport tarmacs, and even hanging directly above barbeque grills?

Such childishness is only the tip of the iceberg of outrages employed to advance an ideological agenda. Our schools torment those whom they are charged with protecting from abuse, with night terrors among the less egregious outcomes. Their brainwashing includes hate mail campaigns to skeptics, reporting on their parents’ willingness to adopt an agenda, and even emotional breakdown requiring institutionalization...

Remaining Article Here:
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/realityzone/UFNtempsdropglcontinue.html

[peaceandlove]

YouTube - Al Gore sued by over 30,000 Scientists for fraud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ

WEATHER CHANNEL Founder - Al Gore is a FRAUD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B05xnnVjJk&feature=related

[alyscat]

Christopher C, Horner is a lawyer, activist, conservative, and a Competitive Enterprise Institute Fellow. He oversees petitions and litigation for the Cooler Heads Coalition, specifically regarding "environment and energy issues, international environmental treaties, and climate policy". He is the author of "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming (and Environmentalism)" released February 2007 by Regnery Publishing Inc. Regnery Publishing is the leading conservative publisher in America. Horner has stated about global warming that "it's the ideal scare campaign for those who hate capitalism and love big government." He was a guest on Glenn Beck in 2007.

He does acknowledge (or at least he did in 2003) that even Pluto is warming up, and is quoted as saying, "There will be inevitably and likely imminent claims [by environmentalists] that mankind is also causing Plutonian global warming."

Just so that we all know who is expounding on global warming and what their particular bias/scientific experience is... sure sounds like a political issue to me.

At some point, love of unrestrained capitalism is going to run this country into the ground. (and that point might be here now.... and this is MY particular bias...)
alys

[alyscat]

Yes, Ashatev started this thread on 12/15 on the 30,000 scientists

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8873

It's not quite what the title indicates - and I would suggest any interested in this issue to read the earlier thread for more details.

And the Weather Channel founder - that's a story from Fox News <G>. But even beyond that (and Fox News is always suspect to me) - I notice that the Weather Channel is not discounting climate change. John Coleman founded the weather channel in 1982. He now works as a broadcast meteorologist at San Diego's KUSI-TV, and he left TWC in 1983.


alys


YouTube - Al Gore sued by over 30,000 Scientists for fraud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ

WEATHER CHANNEL Founder - Al Gore is a FRAUD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B05xnnVjJk&feature=related

[Steve_G]

Pretty pathetic that anyone would want to waste their time and energy trying to expose another human being.

How about just ignoring them?

I have seen many of these attempted exposes and they always come down to attacking Gore based on his political history or his house or other absurd things.

As for global warming as a hoax, you'd have to be insane to dismiss the changes our planet is going through. Gore is not alone in pointing out these changes, even if his book and film were sensationalist in nature.

After all, exposing people uses up a lot of energy that could be better spent elsewhere.

When Egg was talking about negative energy in these forums, this thread is the perfect example of what he/she meant.

*Mod hat OFF*

The man was given a Nobel Peace Prize for the "sensationalist" book and film despite gaping holes in the science. The famous hockey stick graph he used as conclusive proof did in fact neglect to mention that the temperature rises PRECEDED the increase in CO2 levels by a few hundred years. Scientifically it's more accurate to say that rising temperatures cause CO2 levels to increase.

You'd think the guys handing out the Nobel Prizes would have noticed a minor discrepancy like that. Sadly it seems that most of the media, politicians, and anyone with a vested interest in taxing the hell out of the population and supressing the growth of developing countries have ALL missed that tiny detail. Maybe they weren't paying attention.

Luckily tens of thousands of real scientists didn't miss it, and are being very vocal about it. Kudos to them.

Maybe it's yet another bu****it excuse to make people feel guilty while extracting money from them. Global Warming is the new religion for the 21st Century- step aside Satan and meet your replacement, Carbon. It's the politics of fear, get people good and afraid (the guilt is just a bonus) and they'll give up anything to feel better again.

HOW is it negative to point people towards information that discredits the wild claims of (yet again) TPTB who stand to gain billions extra in carbon taxes, among other things? When people have BOTH sides of the argument they can make up their OWN minds rather than simply believing whatever the media and Al Gore tell them.

And let's not forget that the people who are pushing the global warming / environmental agenda and blaming you and me for the state of the planet ARE THE SAME PEOPLE who have supressed free, clean energy for the last 50 years! They did so for their own benefit then, and are doing so for their own benefit now.

I don't for one moment claim that humanity doesn't need to clean up its act. Pollution is a huge problem that needs addressing, and as quickly as possible. But remember that we as a race have had the technology to do so for a very long time, and the self-interested elite that are blaming us for the world's problems are the ones who supressed the means to clean them up. Not only that, if lining their pockets and increasing their own power weren't their only priorities the problems wouldn't have existed in the first place!

If pointing that out is "negative" then so be it, I'm negative. By the same argument it must be negative to expose the 9/11=terrorism lies, or the UFO=Weather Balloon lies, or the WMDs-in-Iraq lies, or the Aspartame-is-safe lies, or the Chemtrails-are-contrails lies, or the Vaccines-are-good-for-you lies, or any of the hundreds of other examples I could list.

Yet despite the catalogue of deceptions that are revealed EVERY YEAR some people STILL believe what politicians and the media tell them! It really does blow my mind sometimes. :wall::wall::wall::wall:

If we keep buying their bu****it they'll keep selling it. It's that simple.

[milk and honey]

Well said Steve G.

[Avid]

*Mod hat OFF*

The man was given a Nobel Peace Prize for the "sensationalist" book and film despite gaping holes in the science. The famous hockey stick graph he used as conclusive proof did in fact neglect to mention that the temperature rises PRECEDED the increase in CO2 levels by a few hundred years. Scientifically it's more accurate to say that rising temperatures cause CO2 levels to increase.....
edited for length


Brilliant Steve - thanks for that!
I've just mentioned these things to the google-eyed rellies, whose attitude is "What are you getting so annoyed about? It doesn't affect us - who cares"!!!
Typical ostrich mentality. They ask me what I can do about it as a lone voice in the wilderness - well lobby my councillor/MP/government - tell it to the media and ask why they are dishonest? The Gaza situation today is so horrific - yet UK and USA refuse to condemn it. Totally and outrageously disgusting. I am ashamed to say I am from the UK - but the PTB DO NOT speak for me. Next thing here is we'll be censored on the internet....:wall::wall::wall:

[alyscat]

Next thing? We already are. I know of at least one example out of the UK, and there's a concern that some of it in other countries may well affect the HPH ability to get a good sample.

And, using sensationalist data/language is not limited to Gore around the global warming issue. I've seen it here in this very thread. <G> Does it exist? Does it not exist? We won't know for years, really. What we have now are beliefs and theories, and beliefs are not the same as reality.

alys

[Zeddo]

Pretty pathetic that anyone would want to waste their time and energy trying to expose another human being.

How about just ignoring them?

I have seen many of these attempted exposes and they always come down to attacking Gore based on his political history or his house or other absurd things.

As for global warming as a hoax, you'd have to be insane to dismiss the changes our planet is going through. Gore is not alone in pointing out these changes, even if his book and film were sensationalist in nature.

After all, exposing people uses up a lot of energy that could be better spent elsewhere.

When Egg was talking about negative energy in these forums, this thread is the perfect example of what he/she meant.



and this is positive?

Well spoken Steve G

[Humble Janitor]

*Mod hat OFF*

The man was given a Nobel Peace Prize for the "sensationalist" book and film despite gaping holes in the science. The famous hockey stick graph he used as conclusive proof did in fact neglect to mention that the temperature rises PRECEDED the increase in CO2 levels by a few hundred years. Scientifically it's more accurate to say that rising temperatures cause CO2 levels to increase.

You'd think the guys handing out the Nobel Prizes would have noticed a minor discrepancy like that. Sadly it seems that most of the media, politicians, and anyone with a vested interest in taxing the hell out of the population and supressing the growth of developing countries have ALL missed that tiny detail. Maybe they weren't paying attention.

Luckily tens of thousands of real scientists didn't miss it, and are being very vocal about it. Kudos to them.

Maybe it's yet another bu****it excuse to make people feel guilty while extracting money from them. Global Warming is the new religion for the 21st Century- step aside Satan and meet your replacement, Carbon. It's the politics of fear, get people good and afraid (the guilt is just a bonus) and they'll give up anything to feel better again.

HOW is it negative to point people towards information that discredits the wild claims of (yet again) TPTB who stand to gain billions extra in carbon taxes, among other things? When people have BOTH sides of the argument they can make up their OWN minds rather than simply believing whatever the media and Al Gore tell them.

And let's not forget that the people who are pushing the global warming / environmental agenda and blaming you and me for the state of the planet ARE THE SAME PEOPLE who have supressed free, clean energy for the last 50 years! They did so for their own benefit then, and are doing so for their own benefit now.

I don't for one moment claim that humanity doesn't need to clean up its act. Pollution is a huge problem that needs addressing, and as quickly as possible. But remember that we as a race have had the technology to do so for a very long time, and the self-interested elite that are blaming us for the world's problems are the ones who supressed the means to clean them up. Not only that, if lining their pockets and increasing their own power weren't their only priorities the problems wouldn't have existed in the first place!

If pointing that out is "negative" then so be it, I'm negative. By the same argument it must be negative to expose the 9/11=terrorism lies, or the UFO=Weather Balloon lies, or the WMDs-in-Iraq lies, or the Aspartame-is-safe lies, or the Chemtrails-are-contrails lies, or the Vaccines-are-good-for-you lies, or any of the hundreds of other examples I could list.

Yet despite the catalogue of deceptions that are revealed EVERY YEAR some people STILL believe what politicians and the media tell them! It really does blow my mind sometimes. :wall::wall::wall::wall:

If we keep buying their bu****it they'll keep selling it. It's that simple.

What are you trying to do? Paint me as some sort of sheep?

I'm asking that if people want to debunk Global Warming, that they leave Gore's personal life out of it and focus on the issue by itself. The person who started this thread started out by posting a picture that painted Gore as a fire-breather. How is that conductive?

The idea is to attack IDEAS, not the people who espouse them!

Just as there are people pushing the agenda of global warming, there are also people who work for the oil companies and other industries that are pushing an agenda that dismisses global warming. Did you point that out too? Did you stop and think that perhaps the same people trying to debunk this are the ones who have also suppressed free energy for decades or dumped tons of chemicals into our waters and released tons of chemicals into our air? What about the people who have systematically poisoned our food supply? Whose side do you think they're on?

My point was to recognize that something is going on, no matter what you call it. I don't care for carbon taxes or carbon credits. I'm concerned about the goddamn environment and the fact that we had 15 inches of snow fall last week alone and right now, there is NONE on the goddamn ground! Why is the weather screwed up? That's what *I* care about. I don't give a **** what Al Gore or some goddamn scientists think! I, as a citizen, want to know what the hell is going on!

You'll have to excuse my profanity but this issue makes me angry and when people try to subvert the discussion by trashing Al Gore and supporting scientists who go against him, THEY'RE MISSING THE POINT!

What's wrong with the weather?

[Ashatav]

Is more possitive to tell the people the truth (or at least something proove scientifically) instead to tell them lies I think, well, at least in the mayority of cases.

Cheers!

[Barron]

The planet is no longer warming, it is cooling. This is fact. That is why most of the people pushing global warming have now substituted the phrase "climate change" for Global Warming. Yes we need to clean up pollution. Bt no, we do not need carbon taxes etc. As well as the excellent movie The Global Warming Swindle have people also seen the other one Global Warming or Global Governance? (If so, it certainly seems like a load of "hot air" (plse excuse the pun) in order to make the "illuminati" richer!

[Steve_G]

What are you trying to do? Paint me as some sort of sheep?

I'm asking that if people want to debunk Global Warming, that they leave Gore's personal life out of it and focus on the issue by itself. The person who started this thread started out by posting a picture that painted Gore as a fire-breather. How is that conductive?

The idea is to attack IDEAS, not the people who espouse them!

Just as there are people pushing the agenda of global warming, there are also people who work for the oil companies and other industries that are pushing an agenda that dismisses global warming. Did you point that out too? Did you stop and think that perhaps the same people trying to debunk this are the ones who have also suppressed free energy for decades or dumped tons of chemicals into our waters and released tons of chemicals into our air? What about the people who have systematically poisoned our food supply? Whose side do you think they're on?

My point was to recognize that something is going on, no matter what you call it. I don't care for carbon taxes or carbon credits. I'm concerned about the goddamn environment and the fact that we had 15 inches of snow fall last week alone and right now, there is NONE on the goddamn ground! Why is the weather screwed up? That's what *I* care about. I don't give a **** what Al Gore or some goddamn scientists think! I, as a citizen, want to know what the hell is going on!

You'll have to excuse my profanity but this issue makes me angry and when people try to subvert the discussion by trashing Al Gore and supporting scientists who go against him, THEY'RE MISSING THE POINT!

What's wrong with the weather?

Al Gore set himself up as the great environmental crusader and presented the global warming theory as scientific fact, which it clearly isn't. If someone puts themselves in that position they have to expect to be challenged and criticised for being wrong at best, and a liar at worst.

When oil company executives come out and claim global warming is a lie most people know that they have a vested interest in the subject, therefore anything they say has to be viewed with a healthy dose of skepticism.

When the former VP of the USA writes a book and releases a video that wins him a Nobel Prize saying that Global Warming is all our fault, and the mass media (almost without exception) continually bombard the public with the same propaganda, a huge majority of the population accept it without question. THAT is why Gore is fair game to be attacked, because he's the public face of the whole bu****it story and has done more to convince people that it's true than anyone or anything else.

A lot of scientists had to threaten legal action to get their names removed from the IPCC report because their findings had been misrepresented. Was this reported in the media? No, because they all do what they're told. Did Gore acknowledge this? No, because he was and still is making a bundle from royalties and appearance fees, and does what he's told. It's taken 30,000 scientists actively sueing Gore for the media to even mention it!

Regarding "What's wrong with the weather?", you are right when you say that it's a question that needs considering. Thanks to the Global Warming spin merchants people THINK they already have the answer: "well it's that Global Warming init? EVERYONE knows that! We did it. Where do I pay?"

I hear it all the time over here in the UK. News stories stating "the hottest / wettest / warmest / dryest month since records began. Scientists say Global Warming is probably responsible," or words to that effect. They don't mention that detailed records only started in the last 100 years and the planet is 4 billion years old. That works out to be 0.000000025% of the Earth's existence. It certainly isn't enough data to support a claim that ANYTHING is wrong, let alone that X, Y or Z is responsible. So first we need to ask "IS there something wrong with the weather?" This has barely been addressed because resources are being pumped into the money-raising Global Warming agenda instead. What we DO know is that every planet in the solar system is getting warmer, so unless we're exporting our CO2 emissions to Pluto and Venus it probably has little to do with us.

What's been happening in reality is that studies that support the man-made GW theory continue to get funding and recieve widespread exposure, while those that don't get their funding cut and the reports buried. Why? Because it's an agenda; more mind control on a global scale, backed by seriously flawed psuedo-science, designed to seperate us from more of our money AND make us feel guilty and worthless at the same time. Replace "psuedo-science" with "priesthood" and you have yourself a religion.

"Did you stop and think that perhaps the same people trying to debunk this are the ones who have also suppressed free energy for decades or dumped tons of chemicals into our waters and released tons of chemicals into our air? What about the people who have systematically poisoned our food supply? Whose side do you think they're on?"

I think they are on their own side, just as they always have been, and that they stand to lose nothing whether Global Warming is debunked or not. The only threat to them and their position is free energy- why would they care if the population is being screwed over carbon taxes? Any tax rises that affect them will be paid for by us through increased prices.

HJ, if you watch just one of the links the OP provided make it this one:

http://www.garagetv.be/video-galerij/blancostemrecht/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle_Documentary_Film. aspx

I apologise to you if I've offended you. It wasn't my intention, and I never wanted to paint you as a sheep; I've read enough of your posts to know that is nowhere near true. This topic pushes by buttons because I'm tired of seeing people fall for the same methods of deception time and time again despite all evidence to the contrary.

I do take exception to the accusation that this thread is negative- Ashatav didn't just post an attack on Al Gore and man-made Global Warming he provided a multitude of links to back up what he said. Hopefully a few people are now more aware of the issues surrounding this subject than they were before this thread was started, so I can only view that as a positive thing.

Best wishes for the new year to all.

Steve G

[Ashatav]

More news about the man made Global Warming SCAM


Environment minister Sammy Wilson: I still think man-made climate change is a con
(http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/environment/environment-minister-sammy-wilson-i-still-think-manmade-climate-change-is-a-con-14123972.html)

Cheers and don't fall into scams!

[Ashatav]

More links about the evidence of the cooling of the earth:


HERE (http://www.globalclimatescam.com/?p=266)

Cheers! :lol3: .........?

[Steve_G]

22 Jul 2008
Al Gore: Carbon-Free For Thee, But Not For Me
Emission Credits, Emissions Caps, Hypocrisy, Albert Gore, Global Warming

http://neveryetmelted.com/index.php/al-gore-carbon-free-for-thee-but-not-for-me/

Lorne Gunter, at the National Post, observes that it’s a case of “Do as Al says, not as Al does.”


On Thursday, former U. S. vice-president Al Gore delivered a major address calling on his country to abandon all fossil fuels within 10 years. By 2018, U. S. electricity and fuel should come entirely from “renewable energy and truly clean, carbon-free sources,” he said. Tickets to the event encouraged attendees to “please use public transit, bicycling or other climate-friendly means” to reach the lecture hall.

So how did Mr. Gore and his retinue arrive? In two Lincoln Town Cars and a full-sized SUV that sat idling with the air conditioners blasting while the Gore party was inside.

It was 34 C (93.2 º F) in Washington. Al Gore can’t be expected to get into an overheated vehicle after he’s worked up a sweat telling others how to save the planet.

Remember, too, the Nobel prizewinning environmentalist lives in a Tennessee mansion that produces a carbon footprint 20 times that of the average American home. A sizeable chunk of his personal fortune comes from royalties on a zinc mine which had to be temporarily closed five years ago in part because the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency ruled it one of the worst-polluting mine sites in America. Illegal toxins were frequently discharged into nearby rivers.

Mr. Gore’s Live Earth benefit concert last summer flew scores of rock bands to stages around the world in carbon-spewing private jets. To cover the emissions from his own frequent use of private jets, Mr. Gore set up a company that buys carbon offsets, so that in effect he is paying himself for his carbon indulgences, writing off the expense on one hand, while pocketing the proceeds on the other.

Apparently if the world is ever to reach the carbon-free future Mr. Gore dreams of, it will have to get there without Al’s help.

[avyaktam]

For a long time I could't figure out why they pushed this human-caused GW agenda. To make some money on alternative energy projects? Why?
Carbon tax, carbon footprint made it clear. More control. Sorry Sir, madam you can't do this or that because it will exceed the limits of your carbon allowance.

[Ashatav]

Even leftists laugh at warming :lol3:
February 1, 2009

Aftermath news

“The most destructive force on the planet is power-driven financiers and profit-driven corporations and their cartels backed by military might. The global warming myth is a red herring that contributes to hiding this truth.”

- University of Ottawa physics professor Denis Rancourt

Indystar | Jan 31, 2009

By Deroy Murdock

So-called “global warming” has shrunk from problem to punch-line. And now, Leftists are laughing, too. It’s hard not to chuckle at the idea of Earth boiling in a carbon cauldron when the news won’t cooperate.

Nearly 4 inches of snow blanketed the United Arab Emirates’ Jebel Jais region for just the second time in recorded history on January 24. Citizens were speechless. The local dialect has no word for snowfall.

Dutchmen on ice skates sped past windmills as canals in Holland froze in mid-January for the first time since 1997. Defense Minister Eimert van Middelkoop, who inhabits a renovated 17th Century windmill, stumbled on the ice and fractured his wrist.

January saw northern Minnesota’s temperatures plunge to 38 below zero, forcing ski-resort closures. A Frazee, Minn., dog-sled race was canceled, due to excessive snow. Snow whitened Surf City, North Carolina’s beaches. Days ago, ice glazed Florida’s citrus groves.

As Earth faces global cooling, both troglodyte Right-wingers and lachrymose Left-wingers find Albert Gore’s simmering-planet hypothesis increasingly hilarious.

“In terms of [global warming's] capacity to cause the human species harm, I don’t think it makes it into the top 10,” Robert Giegengack, former chairman of University of Pennsylvania’s Earth and Environmental Sciences Department, told the Pennsylvania Gazette. Giegengack voted for Gore in 2000, and says he likely would again.

Commentator Harold Ambler declared Jan. 3 on HuffingtonPost.com that he voted for Barack Obama “for a thousand times a thousand reasons.” He added that Gore “owes the world an apology for his actions regarding global warming.” He called Gore’s assertion that “the science is in” on this issue “the biggest whopper ever sold to the public in the history of mankind.”

“Not only is it false that human activity has any significant effect on global warming or the weather in general, but for the record, global warming is over,” retired Navy meteorologist Martin Hertzberg wrote on carbon-sense.com. The physical chemist and self-described “scientist and life-long liberal Democrat” added: “The average temperature of Earth’s atmosphere has declined over the last 10 years. From the El Niño Year of 1998 until January 2007, it dropped 1/4 C [0.45 degrees Fahrenheit]. From Jan 2007 to the spring of 2008, it dropped a whopping 3/4 C [1.35 degrees Fahrenheit]. Those data further prove that the fear-mongering hysteria about human-caused global warming is completely unjustified and is totally counterproductive to our Nation’s essential needs and security.”

“It is a tribute to the scientific ignorance of politicians and journalists that they keep regurgitating the nonsense about human-caused global warming,” veteran left-wing commentator and Nation magazine columnist Alexander Cockburn wrote. “The greenhouse fear mongers rely on unverified, crudely oversimplified models to finger mankind’s sinful contribution — and carbon trafficking, just like the old indulgences, is powered by guilt, credulity, cynicism, and greed.”

Some leftists believe the collective hallucination of warmism distracts from what they consider urgent progressive priorities.

“The most destructive force on the planet is power-driven financiers and profit-driven corporations and their cartels backed by military might,” University of Ottawa physics professor Denis Rancourt has written. “The global warming myth is a red herring that contributes to hiding this truth.”

Social historian David Noble of Canada’s York University concurs. He has lamented that warmism is “diverting attention from the radical challenges of the global justice movements.”

Geophysicist Claude Allegre, previously Education Minister in France’s late 1990s Socialist government, denounced the “prophets of doom of global warming.” He sounded amused in a September 2006 L’Express article. “The ecology of helpless protesting has become a very lucrative business for some people.”

“The so-called ‘consensus’ on man-made global warming is not holding up,” Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla.), told his colleagues Jan. 8. “It is becoming increasingly clear that skepticism about man-made global warming fear is not a partisan left vs. right issue.”

So-called “global warming” has accomplished the impossible: It has united liberals and conservatives in laughter.


Cheers!

[Ashatav]

The Climate "denial" is a mental disorder (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/4953981/Climate-denial-is-know-a-mental-disorder.html)hahaha


Everyday the creative staff of the globalist comes with things a little more id*ot hahahaha


http://personal.lse.ac.uk/berge/happyhour/2006-2007_michaelmas/Preuve%20du%20rechauffement.jpg


Cheers!

[Ashatav]

hi all!



I found this new web that exposses that the next geological age will be.... :sweatdrop: ICeaGE!

UPDATED periodically!

...80% of the glaciers are increasing, 10 are the same and the last 10 are decreasing... because mainly of volcanic activity behind them!


See this Link:

Nor by FIRE but By ICE (http://www.iceagenow.com/)


Cheers!

[Phtha]

For a long time I could't figure out why they pushed this human-caused GW agenda. To make some money on alternative energy projects? Why?
Carbon tax, carbon footprint made it clear. More control. Sorry Sir, madam you can't do this or that because it will exceed the limits of your carbon allowance.

Yea carbon tax is one reason, the other is of course added fear.
Lets see, we got terrorists from the east that want to kill us all, UV rays from above that want to kill us all, Bird flu from out of the blue that wants to kill us all, Nuclear war or ww3 that threatens to kill us all, Global warming that will kill us all of we do nothing, aids and cancer and a host of other diseases that are all 100% preventable and 100% curable.
I know I'm forgetting lots more!

It just makes me laugh in a sad macabre sort of way. :lmao:

[Karen]

The last two years have been colder in reports from numerous locations. This was in our local NE Oregon paper yesterday, by Jayson Jacoby, Baker City Herald:

In the unlikely event that you hadn't noticed, along came a frigid gale from the north to remind you.
This March belongs to winter, not spring.
And if the wind didn't convince you, the sideways snow was pretty persuasive.
Especially if your face happened to get in its way.
The blizzard that barged into Baker City Wednesday evening likely solidified this months' position as one of the colder Marches here in at least 60 years.
The storm solidified a lot of things, come to that, including slush on windshields.
The cold front arrived quite suddenly.
The temperature at the Baker City Municipal Airport plummeted from 39 degress at 5 p.m. to 30 and hour later.
The snow, meanwhile, propelled by winds that gusted to 33 mph, slashed visibility to a quarter-mile.
The storm slathered ice on Interstate 84 and contributed to several accidents, according to police reports.
The scene seemed more fitting for the middle of winter than the first week of spring.
We ought to be used to this, though.
This is the second straight March that's much chillier than usual.
Through Wednesday, the average high temperature at the airport was 45 degrees.
That's almost five degrees below average for March. I would rank as the seventh-coldest since 1948.
No. 6 on that dubious list is March 2008, when the average high for the entire month was 44.5 degrees.
This March did at least briefly acknowledge its position as a bridge between seasons.
The 20th, the first day of spring, was the warmest day of the month, with a high of 65 degrees.
It was in addition our balmiest day since Halloween, when the high was 68.
Warmer weather should arrive soon, though.

[Ashatav]

The last two years have been colder in reports from numerous locations. This was in our local NE Oregon paper yesterday, by Jayson Jacoby, Baker City Herald:

In the unlikely event that you hadn't noticed, along came a frigid gale from the north to remind you.
This March belongs to winter, not spring.
And if the wind didn't convince you, the sideways snow was pretty persuasive.
Especially if your face happened to get in its way.
The blizzard that barged into Baker City Wednesday evening likely solidified this months' position as one of the colder Marches here in at least 60 years.
The storm solidified a lot of things, come to that, including slush on windshields.
The cold front arrived quite suddenly.
The temperature at the Baker City Municipal Airport plummeted from 39 degress at 5 p.m. to 30 and hour later.
The snow, meanwhile, propelled by winds that gusted to 33 mph, slashed visibility to a quarter-mile.
The storm slathered ice on Interstate 84 and contributed to several accidents, according to police reports.
The scene seemed more fitting for the middle of winter than the first week of spring.
We ought to be used to this, though.
This is the second straight March that's much chillier than usual.
Through Wednesday, the average high temperature at the airport was 45 degrees.
That's almost five degrees below average for March. I would rank as the seventh-coldest since 1948.
No. 6 on that dubious list is March 2008, when the average high for the entire month was 44.5 degrees.
This March did at least briefly acknowledge its position as a bridge between seasons.
The 20th, the first day of spring, was the warmest day of the month, with a high of 65 degrees.
It was in addition our balmiest day since Halloween, when the high was 68.
Warmer weather should arrive soon, though.

In fact in 2001 the sun has the peak of the solar activity cicle, so, it's Coincidential with al gore's club of rome eugenetic global warming agenda

cheers... ??? :mfr_omg: :nono: :sweatdrop: :winksmiley02: :welcomeani:

[Steve_G]

The Great Global Warming Swindle:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=288952680655100870&ei=O6bOSZW8KImh-AaEuuTwCA&q=great+global+warming+swindle

[Ashatav]

Fabulous Global Warming Scam Exposed in 10 Minutes! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYg7YE7NNvs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edavidicke%2Ecom%2Fcontent% 2Fblogcategory%2F30%2F48%2F&feature=player_embedded)



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[Egg]

Best snow season ever in Austria. The peaks were so deep that even the boldest off piste artists were like 'that could be a wee bit too much for us'.

Global warming? global con job for the dumb..

[Dantheman62]

Total human contributions to greenhouse gases account for only about 0.28% of the "greenhouse effect" (Figure 2). Anthropogenic (man-made) carbon dioxide (CO2) comprises about 0.117% of this total, and man-made sources of other gases ( methane, nitrous oxide (NOX), other misc. gases) contributes another 0.163% (http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html) .
Approximately 99.72% of the "greenhouse effect" is due to natural causes -- mostly water vapor and traces of other gases, which we can do nothing at all about. Eliminating human activity altogether would have little impact on climate change.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9856&highlight=core+samples

[avyaktam]

This site has specialized on the subject.

http://climaterealists.com/index.php

[Ashatav]

Exelent, Exelent, Exelent....