Do you think that Barak Obama knows?

[Steve_A]

Hi Everybody,

I'm not one to try and spread rumours around (much), but I don't know if anyone has noticed recently the tone of Barak Obamas' voice in his announcements. He seems pressured.

I know that in a little less than one month he will be sworn in as president of the US, but I think this pressure is more than that.

I think he knows that the current regime is just wanting to get out with no serious economical problem and pass the buck on to him, and it is dawning on him just how serious this buck is.

He knows that the FED can't cut rates any more as they are almost zero% as it is.

He knows that the FED has flooded the market with dolars. He also knows that 'stimulous packages' creating jobs will only mean printing even more money.

We all know the result of that.... inflation.

I'm sure that he also knows that if the economic situation is not resolved in a few months, he will get the blame as the people have a very short memory.

Is this all he knows, or is other pressure getting to him?

So I watch and listen to his voice. It doesn't to me, sound like the voice of confidence any more. Or is it just me?

Best regards,

Steve

[happyhollergal]

Good Morning Steve! You're not the only one who noticed. It seems to me that Barack's voice tone and body language have shown signs of major stress since the week following the election, and most notably to me after his first meeting with Bush at the White House. Before the election was held, he secretly met with the Iranian leader in Hawaii, and didn't appear nearly as rattled as he does now. It's pure speculation on my part, but I think he knows tons more now than before he was voted in. He has surrounded himself with brilliant minds, (whether I approve of them or not is irrelevant) and at least two of those, John Podesta and Bill Richardson, are known well in the UFO believer circles. I'm sure with his being Senator and heavily involved in politics, he has been privy to some heavy whispering into his ear on certain subjects. But I think that in the past few weeks he has been given facts, and possibly threats as well, that has shown up in his voice and posture. You are right about people blaming him in a few months if the economy doesn't come bouncing back, and that is so unfortunate. People here in this country don't want to know or refuse to see that Bush, Cheney et al are criminals and the fault lies with them. I personally would love to see Obama have the courage to pursue prosecution of the current administration, but it has been said many times that a new president will never seek charges against a former one. So, Obama has the weight of the world on his shoulders, but being that he has filled his cabinet with these "insiders", he could instruct them to all gather a team unto themselves and dive in head first, so that each group would be working toward a global solution at the same time. I also believe that if he let the cat out of the bag on the ET/UFO situation, many of our problems would be solved immediately, if we were given the whole truth. Anyway, I've rambled long enough. Thanks for giving me something deep to think about. Have a wonderful day!

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Which of the appearances are you referring to that he doesn't sound confident Steve? I have not seen many of them since the election. If it is on YouTube I would like to observe this.

Maybe it is also dawning on him that he sold his soul to be president only to find the decisions are not made by him at all but by tptb, leaving him only as a puppet on a string.

Or maybe he is worried about Rahm Emmanual's relationship with the Chicago Governor Blagovich and what will come out in the trial about their dealings together, especially regarding the Senate seat.

The economic failure was planned to happen systematically, to bring in globalization, the NAU and a new currency, maybe he is just getting wind of that too!

Love & Light

[Steve_A]

Hi TruthWillSetUFree,

It was his press conference where he says he will create jobs with a stimulous package of I think it was $800b. I saw it on TV so I don't know if it got on to Youtube - I'll have a look.

It's just that he seemed a little 'emptier' if that is the right word to use. It's just an impression I had...

Best regards,

Steve

Which of the appearances are you referring to that he doesn't sound confident Steve? I have not seen many of them since the election. If it is on YouTube I would like to observe this.

Maybe it is also dawning on him that he sold his soul to be president only to find the decisions are not made by him at all but by tptb, leaving him only as a puppet on a string.

Or maybe he is worried about Rahm Emmanual's relationship with the Chicago Governor Blagovich and what will come out in the trial about their dealings together, especially regarding the Senate seat.

The economic failure was planned to happen systematically, to bring in globalization, the NAU and a new currency, maybe he is just getting wind of that too!

Love & Light

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Yes that's the thing about selling one's soul, it does tend to make one emptier. I always see it in the eyes. There is a particular vacancy in them almost as though they are not truly there and operating on auto-pilot.

If you can find one I would appreciate it.

Love & Light


Hi TruthWillSetUFree,

It was his press conference where he says he will create jobs with a stimulous package of I think it was $800b. I saw it on TV so I don't know if it got on to Youtube - I'll have a look.

It's just that he seemed a little 'emptier' if that is the right word to use. It's just an impression I had...

Best regards,

Steve

[777 The Great Work]

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The illuminati, The masses and the two faced politician

[Steve_A]

Hi TruthWillSetUFree,

check the difference between these videos:

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=pH2BEwfxkPs

Okay he could have been tired.

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=CyziJKGfNoI&feature=PlayList&p=B0A308ED67D304CB&playnext=1&index=19

His third press conference after the elections, extremely calm and still.

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ZPMTzQeVU&feature=PlayList&p=DBB47385B059C040&playnext=1&index=7

Speaking faster, using more arm movement and body sway, gaunt looking. Not all together there.

To be honest, the differences are small and you have to take into account that the acoustics are different and in the third clip he appears to be on a stage. But even so, he looks flustered and tired? It could be me you know.

Best regards,

Steve

Yes that's the thing about selling one's soul, it does tend to make one emptier. I always see it in the eyes. There is a particular vacancy in them almost as though they are not truly there and operating on auto-pilot.

If you can find one I would appreciate it.

Love & Light

[brutus35]

You hit the nail on the head "Steve"
He knows, and even much more than one thinks, but he will handle it..that should be.. they will handle it. As long as Obama remember his mission, and stick with it, he will have all the help he needs. His mission is "Simple", restore the worlds population's faith and trust in Political and Governmental management and leadership, through honesty, integrity and dedication. Everything else will be added..
I think it Will Be Done..:trumpet:

[dagon]

to early to tell. Im sure his head is reeling with all the info and briefing that is going on. and I don't think the american people are expecting that in a few short months this world melt down is going to be fixed by obama. he has 8 years of bad policy to wade threw. I see a lot of failure in the next few years. with some small gains. I think most obama-nauts are starting to realize he's only human. and is making some questionable choices on his cabinet picks. the same people who got us where we are now. what's that all about?



bottom line. I don't really give a hoot. I think we should go back to the days of france and england and chop there heads off and hold a new election. only those pure in hart can hold office. and bring the 3 strikes law to the politicians. 3 mistakes and its off with your heads.or resign at two, & if there caught steeling from the people we should chop there hands off.
:giljotiini:

[mntruthseeker]

This whole post to me is way too funny


I see you seriously thought that Obama was not "in the know" of what was going on. Of course he has known since the late 80's He has been groomed very well

[K626]

This whole post to me is way too funny


I see you seriously thought that Obama was not "in the know" of what was going on. Of course he has known since the late 80's He has been groomed very well

I don't honestly think they spend years grooming people, certainly not a decade or more.

With our lot, one of the eyes starts to go wierd after a year or two, Thatcher, Blair, Brown..All suffer from the mind programming 'Borg' one eye fatigue. Check the before and after pics.:original:

[Steve_A]

Hi mntruthseeker,

This was not the point I was trying to make. We can know more or less what is going on, and may not be too affected by it. When the threat is distant, we tend to put it on the back burner.

However I 'feel' that Obama is just beginning to realize the gravity of the situation in the US. And that is the point I was trying to make.

It's almost like just realizing that you've been hustled. You feel impotent. There's nothing you can do. It's too late.

So was this being shown on his last speech? I think it might have been.

Best regards,

Steve



This whole post to me is way too funny


I see you seriously thought that Obama was not "in the know" of what was going on. Of course he has known since the late 80's He has been groomed very well

[Egg]

My first post!:original:

A long time ago there was a comic, who stood up and did a brilliant stand up speech about new Presidents. I'm working from hazy memory but this is the gist of it.

"President strolls into a room. Twelve guys sat shrouded in cigar smoke. One pipes up "sit down, shut up, watch the movie". A movie plays of a day in Dallas from an unknown observation place. Look like its from behind some grass on a hillock. Movie ends with president getting a head shot. The guy doing the talking looks at the President right in the eye and says "got any questions?" and the President slumps down into the seat and says in a defeated voice "so, just explain again what my agenda is?".

Every thing changes so much it stays the same.


Egg

[Humble Janitor]

Hi mntruthseeker,

This was not the point I was trying to make. We can know more or less what is going on, and may not be too affected by it. When the threat is distant, we tend to put it on the back burner.

However I 'feel' that Obama is just beginning to realize the gravity of the situation in the US. And that is the point I was trying to make.

It's almost like just realizing that you've been hustled. You feel impotent. There's nothing you can do. It's too late.

So was this being shown on his last speech? I think it might have been.

Best regards,

Steve

You can't possibly expect a straight post from people with an agenda against someone like Obama.

He's been groomed since the 80s? Laughable. You could say that about just any other president but when Obama gets singled out? Methinks his race is the reason why people are so ****** that he won.

I will concede that I'm disappointed with his cabinet picks. Rahm was the first, followed by Holder, Hillary, ****sack (Vilsack) and even Gates. All were a huge "what the eff?"

I'm just keeping my eyes peeled on his next move(s).

[alyscat]

You can discount it all to racism, HJ, but I do think there is some disappointment going around - particularly with his seeming change in stance from "gonna stop the war" to "sending 30k more soldiers to Afghanistan" - and his choice in cabinet picks.

I think you're seeing people realize that he is not quite what they expected, as he shifts from his campaign promises (change, change, change) to the expediency of an office that is pretty well controlled by others. The realization that the power is only illusional would be enough to give anyone deer in the headlight looks.
alys

[Humble Janitor]

You can discount it all to racism, HJ, but I do think there is some disappointment going around - particularly with his seeming change in stance from "gonna stop the war" to "sending 30k more soldiers to Afghanistan" - and his choice in cabinet picks.

I think you're seeing people realize that he is not quite what they expected, as he shifts from his campaign promises (change, change, change) to the expediency of an office that is pretty well controlled by others. The realization that the power is only illusional would be enough to give anyone deer in the headlight looks.
alys

Yeah good point. What I am wondering is that if it was someone else using the same theme, if they too would be scorned if they didn't follow through.

[K626]

You can discount it all to racism, HJ, but I do think there is some disappointment going around - particularly with his seeming change in stance from "gonna stop the war" to "sending 30k more soldiers to Afghanistan" - and his choice in cabinet picks.

I think you're seeing people realize that he is not quite what they expected, as he shifts from his campaign promises (change, change, change) to the expediency of an office that is pretty well controlled by others. The realization that the power is only illusional would be enough to give anyone deer in the headlight looks.
alys

Tbf there is a good case to pursue in afg and maybe even Pakistan. The troops need to come out of Iraq however.

[dagon]

Barack Obama/CFR/Bush bloodline Connection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ldZS9PL9KE&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWLXbptz4sg&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0DoxrNCImI


your vote doesnt count.

I think there is some truth here on the subject.

[efields]

We will know him by his works.

Feeling less sure of him than I was. we shall see as time passes. We can only hope..

Happy Holidays

[dagon]

dont miss this one.. LOL!!!

Visual Proof That Illuminati Bloodlines Control The Planet

http://www.livevideo.com/video/32E03039FFDB476093B3C40707251CD5/visual-proof-that-illuminati-bloodlines-control-the-planet.aspx

[Egg]

Obama has a good mentor in Zbigniew Brzezinski. He will steer the USA in a good direction I hope, as for all the internet rumour surrounding him, Mr Brz is a good solid teacher, a good long term planner and thinker, and a very fair and even handed man who believes in giving peace and cordial talks a chance.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Hello Steve
Finally had a chance to watch the videos you posted.

Although it is difficult to know what is in a man's heart and mind, I do detect a subtle change in Obama.

It could be as simple as his post election demeanor, he doesn't have to be as smilie now that he has won, or as you say he is realizing the gravity of what he has taken on.

Here is an interesting video

CNN-Lou Dobbs- Obama Backing North American Union


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/14709/CNN_Lou_Dobbs__Obama_Backing_North_American_Union/

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

I still feel he knew/knows what he was getting himself into. Obviously, not how it feels to 'be the king', but I do believe he knew his purpose was to carry Bush's torch, only making it look like he is being more open about it.

To be honest Steve, I truly want to believe he is 'all that and a bag of chips'
as my daughter would say, but I feel they all belong to the same club.

Only time will give us the answers we seek.

Merry Christmas!

Love & Light,
Truth

-Hi mntruthseeker,

This was not the point I was trying to make. We can know more or less what is going on, and may not be too affected by it. When the threat is distant, we tend to put it on the back burner.

However I 'feel' that Obama is just beginning to realize the gravity of the situation in the US. And that is the point I was trying to make.

It's almost like just realizing that you've been hustled. You feel impotent. There's nothing you can do. It's too late.

So was this being shown on his last speech? I think it might have been.

Best regards,

Steve

[Jack]

An actor walks upon the floodlit stage of life
wearing a mask of an angel beneath a demon's gown.
Pretence smiles upon the crowded hall of life
holding out hope as bright as it is false.
Son of a woman in whose veins flows the blood
of ancient Ireland and dark Africa's plains.
You are Obama, nick-named the standing king
You are Barack, oh, son born to deceive
The suffering hoards of Africa look up to you,
See a black saviour where nought but a Judas strides.
An entrapper of nations, bringer of dismal war
Behind the robes and the nylon wings of hope
Oh, may those who look upon you, see you as you are.
May those who hope in you behold you as you be
A prince deceitful to bring down Africa's shrines
A siren who leads Africa's ships onto rocks of obliteration.
Your rule my lord will not be one of peace
Your reign my king will not be one of smiles
Even as we speak in caves both dark and dank
Enraged fanatics plot your dark demise
They will put around your head a bloodwet martyr's crown.
Oh black Kennedy following the one before
May God forgive thee and thy fiery spouse
As you walk in silence from the stage of life
Barack Obama, blessed son, Oh standing king.

Credo Mutwa

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I am writing this in the last days of 2008 as I watch with dismay as vast numbers of people across the world, including many who should know better, have been duped by the mind-game called Operation Obama.

Even people with some understanding of the conspiracy have said things like: 'Well, at least he's not Bush' and 'Well, at least it's great to see such a new spirit of hope'. No, he's not Bush - he's potentially far more dangerous; and what is the use of a spirit of 'hope' if it's based on a lie? In fact, what use is 'hope' at all?

Obama's wife, Michelle, who I wouldn't trust to tell me the date in a calendar factory, said that 'everything begins and ends with hope'. Utter nonsense. Hope is a meaningless emotion because its fruits are always in the future and, by definition, never in the NOW.

Hope is like riding a carousel horse; no matter how fast you go you never get closer to the one in front. The idea, however, is to persuade you to stay on the horse, despite the evitable disappointment, in the 'hope' that things will change. But they don't because the very system is designed to prevent it.

http://www.davidicke.com/oi/extras/08/obama/obama2.jpg

http://www.davidicke.com/oi/extras/08/obama/obama3.jpg

That's the way 'hope' is employed by the dastardly and devious - take the **** we are giving you now in the 'hope' that things will get better (but we know they won't). Barack Obama is a purveyor of 'hope' because his masters want the people to accept what they are given now in the hope that good times will come.

Just do what we demand, oops, sorry, Barack demands, and in return he'll inspire you to hope that it is all leading to the Promised Land. It isn't, but, by the time you realise that, it's too late.

What terrifies the manipulators is that people will abandon hope, as a future, sometime-never projection, and start to demand fairness, justice and freedom now. To avoid this nightmare they need to keep those desires as something to aspire to, not to actually have.

Thus, their man, Obama, sells 'hope' as a diversion technique, a holding position, to keep the masses from truly rebelling. We have no job, no food on the table and our home has been foreclosed, but at least we have 'hope'. Phew, thank goodness for that.

'I'm hungry, mum, can I have some hope, please?'

'I'm so sorry, darling, you can't have hope today, only tomorrow - hope is always tomorrow.'

'So will I eat tomorrow, mum?'

'We can hope so now, dear, but when we get to tomorrow, we can only hope it's the next day.'

On and on it goes. That's how 'hope' works. Or rather doesn't.

Obama's predominant mantra has been 'change'. Indeed, his massively-funded, record-breaking campaign was based on that one word - change. This is a technique used by Bill Clinton and many others and it is highly effective because, at any point, the system ensures that most people are not happy with the way life is. So, when you don't like the status quo, 'change' can be a potent message, even if, like Obama, you don't say what it means.

It has been vital to his success, and that of his controllers, that he has never specified what his 'hope', 'change', and that other mind-control trigger-word, 'believe', were referring to in terms of policy and the way society in general will be affected. Hope for what? Change what? Believe in what? To answer those questions with specifics would have been fatal to Obama's appeal.

http://www.davidicke.com/oi/extras/08/obama/obama4.jpg

I studied the military/government mind-control programmes and techniques in great detail for many years during the late-1990s and across 2000, and the Obama 'phenomenon' is the most blatant mass-mind control operation you could wish to see.

At its core the plan has been to make Obama the focus of everything you hope for, believe in and want to change. This is why it has been crucial for him not to specify and detail what is meant by his 'hope, 'change' and 'believe'.

However, I can tell you what those words mean in the context of the Obama mind-game. They mean whatever you decide they mean or want them to mean. The idea is for you to project all that you stand for onto him and so he becomes the symbol of you and how you see the world. Specifics would destroy that 'I am whatever you want me to be' scenario and so you don't get any detail, just 'hope', 'change', and 'believe'.

They don't want him to be seen only as 'the Messiah'; they also want him to be Abraham Lincoln, JFK, or Buddha - anyone you choose to project on him, for he is a blank page, blank screen and empty suit. Obama is a make-your-own, do-it-yourself leader, a projection of your own mind. (If you are still asleep, that is. If you are in any way awake, he's an open book.)


http://www.davidicke.com/oi/extras/08/obama/obama1.jpg




Excerpt taken from here (http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/18281)

[Egg]

An actor walks upon the floodlit stage of life
wearing a mask of an angel beneath a demon's gown.
Pretence smiles upon the crowded hall of life
holding out hope as bright as it is false.
Son of a woman in whose veins flows the blood
of ancient Ireland and dark Africa's plains.
You are Obama, nick-named the standing king
You are Barack, oh, son born to deceive
The suffering hoards of Africa look up to you,
See a black saviour where nought but a Judas strides.
An entrapper of nations, bringer of dismal war
Behind the robes and the nylon wings of hope
Oh, may those who look upon you, see you as you are.
May those who hope in you behold you as you be
A prince deceitful to bring down Africa's shrines
A siren who leads Africa's ships onto rocks of obliteration.
Your rule my lord will not be one of peace
Your reign my king will not be one of smiles
Even as we speak in caves both dark and dank
Enraged fanatics plot your dark demise
They will put around your head a bloodwet martyr's crown.
Oh black Kennedy following the one before
May God forgive thee and thy fiery spouse
As you walk in silence from the stage of life
Barack Obama, blessed son, Oh standing king.

Credo Mutwa



That gave me the creepiest 'creeped out' feeling reading that. I take it that this is the same Shaman from the David Icke books? I see it is, and in that case if he says obama is up to no good, I'll bet a weeks wages he is correct. 2009 should be very interesting indeed.

[Northern Boy]

That gave me the creepiest 'creeped out' feeling reading that. I take it that this is the same Shaman from the David Icke books? I see it is, and in that case if he says obama is up to no good, I'll bet a weeks wages he is correct. 2009 should be very interesting indeed.
they are already calling 2009 the year of the wall street bloodbath and it is set to begin starting Jan 2 2009 you will see massive mall vacancy`s as stores simply close there doors

[Egg]

they are already calling 2009 the year of the wall street bloodbath and it is set to begin starting Jan 2 2009 you will see massive mall vacancy`s as stores simply close there doors

Yeah I bet. This isn't a year that holds alot of promise - hope we the people can be a little nicer and kinder to each other in these coming times. I still get the shivers reading that poem though no matter how positive I try to be.

[K626]

For what's happening in the U.S. it's easy to throw eggs and make silly posters, the people are as much to blame for the unfolding sceneario of erasure of freedoms. cack handed foreign policy as the leaders. I personally blame the American people as much as the hidden hands. No escaping it, sorry. Change can only come when the people start to get involved and say no.

[Egg]

K626 thats the biggest crock of rubbish I have ever read.

You tell me that the governments listen to the people and i'll ask what Tv news channel told you that crock of poo. Think people on the streets wanted the bail out? no they didn't. Did they get listened to? no they didn't.

Think the people on the street want rampant ilegal unchecked immigration from Mexico and the North American Union? no they don't. Do they get listened to? not at all.

Same across europe - lets see, the irish are having a second vote because? because the elite don't like the answers they got.

Hence the elite are bending everything round to their way by propoganda and lies and the force of threats. Short of a civil war and armed uprising, the small man has a very hard struggle to even say boo let alone anything else.

[K626]

K626 thats the biggest crock of rubbish I have ever read.

You tell me that the governments listen to the people and i'll ask what Tv news channel told you that crock of poo. Think people on the streets wanted the bail out? no they didn't. Did they get listened to? no they didn't.

Think the people on the street want rampant ilegal unchecked immigration from Mexico and the North American Union? no they don't. Do they get listened to? not at all.

Same across europe - lets see, the irish are having a second vote because? because the elite don't like the answers they got.

Hence the elite are bending everything round to their way by propoganda and lies and the force of threats. Short of a civil war and armed uprising, the small man has a very hard struggle to even say boo let alone anything else.






Where did I say Gov listen to people?

Before you get on your mind liquifying high horse you should perhaps learn to read.

How long would you in the U.S. last without cheap illegal labour?

The point of my post was that people need to get involved more in whatever way they can and that individuls have much more power than they realise to change their reality. I certainly wouldn't refer to them as 'the small man'..

One of the reasons the pyramid works is that people lower down absolve themselves of responsability and take little interst untill something goes wrong in their personal lives...That is just a luxury we can ill afford now.

I know some good Americans and there are parts of the American identity that will fight back, but my point stands there are huge numbers who still remain asleep even though they have some inkling of what is going on in their name. I don't think disguising that fact helps anyone.


Love and Peace.

K.

[mntruthseeker]

Hello Steve,

I would love to believe that is the case. Too many things point to the facts that Obama was groomed since the 80's.

His schooling and friends. I happen to admire alot of Obama's friends. Then on the other hand, I cringe with their crudeness. I worry that we may all be in for a huge surprise.

I read that people fell that certain ones are not groomed for twenty years or so. What a laugh. From some of the very videos on Camelot you can see that is the case. These people are groomed from birth !!!!!

They are groomed the same as the rest of us except the majority of us are fed the lies through our schooling and the media. Whats the difference? A lie is a lie. Our whole life is a lie here on earth and I for one am not happy with that fact.

Obama is a selfish person. He goes on his 9Billion dollar vacation with his family while others starve and live in the streets. If I had that kind of money I would be sure to spread that around to all that needs it. He only says he will divide the wealth. Until I see him pratice what he preaches, I will call him a fraud. No one person needs to spend or have spent on him that amount of money. They would love to spread and feel better for that.

So I don't care what anyone thinks of me, I for one want to see the CHANGE he promised and not his greed of spending for him and his ! This is the same pratice of all the elite

He knew very well what was going on in this world and he sure doesn't fool me. I firmly believe that he was just as crooked as the rest of them in Chicago. Obama knew what was going on...........I expect no change, he has already shown that to all of us

[Avid]

http://www.rense.com/general84/year.htm

This précis of the year and next years' forecast is interesting...
"Why they switched to Obama, with his radical Marxist background, I'm not really sure. But of one thing I am sure: Obama was bought out several years ago and switched from the radical Marxist camp to the globalist controllers before being allowed to become a US Senator. His sudden transformation from poor community lawyer to wealthy Senator is telling. So is his $9M house on the beach in Hawaii. Where did all his instant wealth come from? His too-good-to-be-true stock/commodity trades and housing deals are telltale signs of insider financial dealings in exchange for unstated commitments and control over his political future."

[cantaloupe]

Interesting link Avid. The article makes points worth checking out, but it degenerates into gay bashing talk about the judgement of God and loses its own thread. Perhaps you could inform Mr. Skousen that the Love he witholds is the pain he carries.
Cheers

[Barron]

All i can say is read Barack H Obama: The Unauthorised Biography by Webster Griffin Tarpley and you will know that he is NOT squeaky clean and is a puppet of the Trialateralists and C.F.R.

I am sorry but that is the truth. Absolute. period. Please do your research.

[Barron]

Hi mntruthseeker.

You are quite correct. Obama has been groomed since the early 1980's. He was recruited by Zbigniew Brzezinski at Columbia University. He is a wholly-owned asset and his career sponsored by the networks of the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberger Group and the Council on Foreign Relations. (His mother was also a consultant working for both the World Bank and the "think-tank" the Ford Foundation.)

And as for another poster in this thread's comments about Obama being ing good hands under Zbigniew Brzezinski, nothing could be further from the truth!
(But that is a whole another subject!) :original:

[alyscat]

Personally, I think the real clue to me about his choice and grooming was his selection to give the major speech at the Democratic convention in 2004. At that point, he was pretty much an unknown, except to the Chicago cabal. This struck me as a fast track way of getting him into the public limelight. My question was, "Why?" Now we know.

alys

[Carol]

I've had a bad feeling about Obama from the onset. Hillary was suppose to be president and he her VP and then the timeline got changed. I see him as an ongoing target for elimination and will be surprised if he survives. I also see Biden stepping in to take his place just as Johnson stepped in and took JFKs place.

Furthermore I know he was not born in the US and given what has gone on in the past 3 elections it is clear to me our nation is already lost to big business and the shadow government.

On one hand are just spectators to all of this drama and on the other we need to step outside of this wacky matrix and focus on the elemental.. establishing ones own food source in ones own backyard.

[Avid]

I've had a bad feeling about Obama from the onset. Hillary was suppose to be president and he her VP and then the timeline got changed. I see him as an ongoing target for elimination and will be surprised if he survives. I also see Biden stepping in to take his place just as Johnson stepped in and took JFKs place.

Furthermore I know he was not born in the US and given what has gone on in the past 3 elections it is clear to me our nation is already lost to big business and the shadow government.

On one hand are just spectators to all of this drama and on the other we need to step outside of this wacky matrix and focus on the elemental.. establishing ones own food source in ones own backyard.

I agree - somehow Obama may be 'sacrificed' and there will be some blame - maybe even 'er' Iranian 'terrorists'. Notwithstanding the Xmas message..
We are now watching the fomentation of banking hierarchy war - bluff and double bluff - and the thrashings of the NWO are determined to do their stuff.
The banksters and the 'bailout beneficiaries' have some stupid goal - to divert attention from the robbery of the 'taxpayer' (illegally) to foment a war in the Middle East, they've got Iran going as planned (Gaza). Tried to do it with India and Pakistan - wait and see...
The acceleration of NWO goals is a bit scary, but not insurmountable - lobby your local politician (who you 'elected'), in the UK lobby your MP, and then inundate the governing party with protests as well as alerting all the media at the same time. If there is no response - keep doing it. We can change the world one person at a time! Good luck everyone - all over the world!:lightsabre:

[seekntruth]

Jack,

Thanks for posting that exerpt about Obama-nosis. As I was reading through the posts in this forum I began to get the sense that even the more "awakened" people here had been completely mesmerized by that condition. It's the false "believe", "hope" and "change" delusion.

Folks, the truth is... Obama, Bush, Clinton.. they are all related (and I mean that LITERALLY!)... THEY ARE ALL DECENDANTS OF THE SAME TRIBE!

Snap out of it and think critically! This is the SAME group of people who gave us 8 years of Slick Willy (the left side of the globalist agenda). Then they gave us 8 years of the neo-cons (the right side of the globalist agenda). Now it's Obama who represents the left side of the globalist agenda... again! But it's always the SAME GLOBALIST AGENDA!!!

May we all awaken from this delusion soon.

Seekntruth

[mntruthseeker]

Steve

Even if what you say is the truth and Obama just realized he had been had !!!!! I would like to think that he is just playing around to make it look good but then will twist things around to save the human race along with his family

I can't see that as I see him as being selfish. Even if handed to me, I couldn't see me spending a week in Hawaai at the price he just paid. Not when there is so many hardships in the world. People need help and you just don't turn your backs on them. So he was bought as the rest of them. No changes are coming our way except the worst that one can imagine.............Fema camps and mass murders and many souls taken.....

Obama is way too smart of a man to NOT know this. We all heard Rev Wright say on National TV that he knew so many truths that many of the world is just discovering.....so I say, No way he didn't know this. He just thought he was bigger than what was out there, probally a good way of putting it or he is just a big part of it himself.

We can only just imagine he is filling his cabinet with all the throw aways as he is not making the choices ! Does anyone think thats helpfull LOL not me, I won't let myself go there

[K626]

Jack,

Thanks for posting that exerpt about Obama-nosis. As I was reading through the posts in this forum I began to get the sense that even the more "awakened" people here had been completely mesmerized by that condition. It's the false "believe", "hope" and "change" delusion.

Folks, the truth is... Obama, Bush, Clinton.. they are all related (and I mean that LITERALLY!)... THEY ARE ALL DECENDANTS OF THE SAME TRIBE!

Snap out of it and think critically! This is the SAME group of people who gave us 8 years of Slick Willy (the left side of the globalist agenda). Then they gave us 8 years of the neo-cons (the right side of the globalist agenda). Now it's Obama who represents the left side of the globalist agenda... again! But it's always the SAME GLOBALIST AGENDA!!!

May we all awaken from this delusion soon.

Seekntruth

Thye're not related, that is rubbish. Sorry.

Bush is as much a victim as JFK was.

There is a far darker scenario than conspiracy bound presidents.


Peace.

K.

[PolarBear]

To know what Obama will do you can have a look at the men behind him
The men behind Barack Obama part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k&feature=related)

[blastawaycas]

THE COUNTLESS TIMES THAT I HAVE WATCHED BARAK OBAMA, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION HE JUST SEEMS SOMEHOW DETATCHED FROM HIS SURROUNDINGS HIS SPEECHES HE ALMOST SEEMS TO ME AS THOUGH HE HAS SOMETHING MORE PRESSING ON HIS MIND.
IF YOU OBSERVE HIM YOU WOULD NOTICE THIS TOO . TODAY FOR INSTANCE IS HIS INAUGURATION (hope thats spelt right) and I WOULD RATHER LOOSE MY OWN LIFE THAN WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY MAY HAPPEN BUT WHAT BETTER OPPORTUNITY THAN TO GIVE THE WORLD A RUDE AWAKENING THAN THIS EVENT AT 5.00PM GMT WHAT AN AUDIENCE THEY WOULD HAVE.

BUT THAT ASIDE I HOPE THE US SECURITY SERVICES HAVE DONE THERE HOMEWORK ECT; OBAMA SEEMS TO BE GOING THRU THE MOTIONS IF YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE ANY OF THAT WHOOP WHOOP PASSION THAT IS NORMALLY ASSOSCIATED WITH YOU GUYS, AND I MEAN THAT IN A VERY VERY COMPASSIONATE WAY.

TO ME HE LOOKS LIKE I CAN'T BELIEVE I AM DOIN THIS SH*T WITH WHAT THE POWERS THAT PULL THE STRINGS HAVE IN STORE FOR Y'ALL.

I MIGHT BE FOGGED UP WITHTHE MORPHINE I AM ON BUT I JUST GET THIS IMPRESSION EVERY TIME

KINDEST REGARDS AND DEEPEST RESPECT U.S.A. DAVE CASTER :thumb_yello:

[Please note: This message has been merged from another thread on the same subject - Steve]

[IndigoChild1986]

something deep in my heart tells me that he will not survive and I see this coming between may and august 2009

I can't believe when I saw so many people around white house today, that is fooled by those people, this is hard to see Ive been in conspiracy for almost 9 years since I woke up to the reality.

I feel so sad inside my heart that people is buying the speech hes selling with hypnosis.

Any NEWS and UPDATES on this topic is highly appreciated.

[Noela]

For those of us who feel positive - or what to feel positive about current events, there is an excellent article by David Wilcock on his website www.divinecosmos.com, dated 17/1/09 and commencing with "Miracle on the Hudson River". It is lengthy but I would encourage people to scroll down and read the relevant bits about the Illumanati, the Obama presidency, and the insight David provides on this and the future. It sure bucked me up, after reading this thread.

Blessings to all
Noela

[Humble Janitor]

something deep in my heart tells me that he will not survive and I see this coming between may and august 2009

Remember, if we push this negative energy towards him, it will happen. :wall:


I feel so sad inside my heart that people is buying the speech hes selling with hypnosis.

I feel equally sad that some people on here can't find anything positive to say. Usually the kind of folks who'd crawl under a rock and hide in fear.

Remember, bad things only happen if we MAKE them happen. All this talk about FEMA camps, survival, etc? It's simply fear on the part of people who cannot see anything BUT fear.

It contradicts EVERYTHING that mudra and other awesome, highly spiritual members have said, especially about making our own reality. Can't people see this or are they blinded by FEAR like deer in headlights?

Obama is not perfect by a long shot but I refuse to give in to fear like so many others on here. :lightsabre:

I must apologize for my harsh tone but I am honestly fed up with some of the things I am reading on here. People are giving up on Obama already and he just barely took office. People are acting smug and self-righteous because they consider themselves to be "above the sheeple". That is again, the opposite of showing love and light towards one another.

[Humble Janitor]

For those of us who feel positive - or what to feel positive about current events, there is an excellent article by David Wilcock on his website www.divinecosmos.com, dated 17/1/09 and commencing with "Miracle on the Hudson River". It is lengthy but I would encourage people to scroll down and read the relevant bits about the Illumanati, the Obama presidency, and the insight David provides on this and the future. It sure bucked me up, after reading this thread.

Blessings to all
Noela

Good article. However, there will be people on here who will smear Wilcock as always, usually accusing him of having an ego among other things. I think it's important to balance the negativity polarity with positive polarity and Wilcock tends to lean towards the positive end of the spectrum.

[Kathleen]

Right On H.J.

You would think that the level of awareness on this forum would see more people putting positive energy toward the new administration. Do they honestly NOT BELIEVE they are creators? Do they WANT the STHTF? I don't get it.

I didn't vote for the guy....however....it is what it is and I choose to focus on uplifting him thereby uplifting my country.

[IndigoChild1986]

Remember, if we push this negative energy towards him, it will happen. :wall:



I feel equally sad that some people on here can't find anything positive to say. Usually the kind of folks who'd crawl under a rock and hide in fear.

Remember, bad things only happen if we MAKE them happen. All this talk about FEMA camps, survival, etc? It's simply fear on the part of people who cannot see anything BUT fear.

It contradicts EVERYTHING that mudra and other awesome, highly spiritual members have said, especially about making our own reality. Can't people see this or are they blinded by FEAR like deer in headlights?

Obama is not perfect by a long shot but I refuse to give in to fear like so many others on here. :lightsabre:

I must apologize for my harsh tone but I am honestly fed up with some of the things I am reading on here. People are giving up on Obama already and he just barely took office. People are acting smug and self-righteous because they consider themselves to be "above the sheeple". That is again, the opposite of showing love and light towards one another.

With all respect, this of the known who he really is and people behind him. Every one no matter name or position says almost the same about him that I believe as well.

First of all be aware of this:

Conspiracy Theorists AWAKE!!! - Obama’s Not an American!

Jason Mitchell, the 29-year-old Christian television producer who electrified the right with his 13-minute Video Portrait of Barack Hussein Obama, is back with a 60-second “TV ad” (read “YouTube clip”) that blows the lid off the biggest cover-up since the CIA faked the moon landing: Obama isn’t an American!

To be sure, the claim — that the president-elect was born in Kenya, and faked his Hawaiian birth certificate — is nothing new: if you had internet during the election campaign, this chestnut is as familiar as an old friend who won’t get off your couch or take a shower.

But the stellar production values coupled with the gravely-serious presentation of a thoroughly debunked smear makes this the most entertaining attack video to come from Mitchell’s Illuminati Pictures in months.

“I like the narrator’s voice,” raves BoingBoing’s Mark Fraunfelder. “It sounds like 1970s Saturday Night Live.”

Obama Vs. Constitution (60 Sec. TV Ad)>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYdk26ezVio

www.obamaforgery.com

Currently, there are 16 cases in 12 states (with 2 before the Supreme Court) contending that Barack Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be sworn in as President of the United States. This video outlines the challenges to his presidency and sheds light on his international upbringing.

Produced by Illuminati Pictures, directed by Molotov Mitchell, FX editing by DJ Dolce and narrated by Lorne Baxter.

Copyright 2008

[Northern Boy]

Tbf there is a good case to pursue in afg and maybe even Pakistan. The troops need to come out of Iraq however.

Care to elaborate ?

[Orion Morris]

Well the bottom line is that whatever happens in the US will happen in Europe and the rest of the Western countries. The American people are asleep in the same proportion that the rest of the world is asleep. It is too late for a political revolution, we have too many weapons and people are too violent. What we have to have is a spiritual revolution. It has to start in ourselves and reflect itself in our neighbors and our communities. Our money and our current ways of exchange are eroding and it is time to find a better way.

"Its the ones who complain about the global war, but won't overthrow the local joker that they voted for." Sage Francis

For what's happening in the U.S. it's easy to throw eggs and make silly posters, the people are as much to blame for the unfolding sceneario of erasure of freedoms. cack handed foreign policy as the leaders. I personally blame the American people as much as the hidden hands. No escaping it, sorry. Change can only come when the people start to get involved and say no.

[Kathleen]

We are very aware of the people behind obama....but did you ever think that with help from "we the people" he can throw off the yoke. Maybe this is why people sense he will not be around long as he's going to stick it to 'em. HA!

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!

[Orion Morris]

Good luck with that... Participating in the system only empowers it.


We are very aware of the people behind obama....but did you ever think that with help from "we the people" he can throw off the yoke. Maybe this is why people sense he will not be around long as he's going to stick it to 'em. HA!

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!

[Kathleen]

Good luck with that... Participating in the system only empowers it.

I'm not really talking about participating in the system. Simply sending positive and healing thoughts......

Like I said...I didn't vote for him...I just am feeling the negativity attached to obama discourse empowers negativity. Self fullfilling prophecy and all that.

[Barron]

Humble Janitor said, "Remember, bad things only happen if we MAKE them happen. All this talk about FEMA camps, survival, etc? It's simply fear on the part of people who cannot see anything BUT fear."

I disagree as i didn't make Marilyn Monroe get asassinated nor Robert kennedy yet they did. I didn't make FEMA camps get built either but they have been.

Nasty things happen not as a result of us NOT making them happen!
I do agree with the messages on this thread however re being positive and focussing on the outcome that you desire. However, a very large degree of "tough love" is indeed required, much like a loving and concerned parent reprimanding a naughty child by telling them to take timeout and go to their room etc. We must also act people. :original:

[Noela]

Humble Janitor - Thanks for your reply to my post re David Wilcock and his article. I tend to post, and, so it seems, get no replies or feedback, and wonder has anyone seen or considered my contribution. So, heartening that you read David's article - I hope others will also.

Love and blessings to all
Noela

[Barron]

You are invited to listen to the January 23, 2009 "Conversations with Dr. Steven Greer" program on WorldPuja.org at 11 am Pacific / 2 pm Eastern and 6 pm Pacific / 9 pm Eastern. It will then be available in the show archives after that, at http://www.worldpuja.org/archives.php?list=host&value=steven&rnd=12576

Dr. Greer discusses the possibilities that will be open with the new Obama Adminstration regarding ET Disclosure, contact and new energy systems.

The Administration says they are interested in bold action. Dr. Greer urges all listening to contact their representatives and the Obama Administration and give them the Disclosure Project and Orion Project websites so they can see real out-of-the-box solutions. Dr. Greer suggests that President Obama issue an Emancipation Proclamation...freeing the peoples of the world from the slavery of the current economic system.

It's an animated hour with Dr. Greer – excited with the possibilities of 2009.

CSETI - www.CSETI.org
Disclosure Project - www.DisclosureProject.org

[Barron]

Obama hasn't wasted any time in murdering people. Thank goodness he's not McCain, huh? Here's the link http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/24/pakistan-barack-obama-a... and here are the story highlights:


President orders air strikes on villages in tribal area

Barack Obama gave the go-ahead for his first military action yesterday, missile strikes against suspected militants in Pakistan which killed at least 18 people.

Four days after assuming the presidency, he was consulted by US commanders before they launched the two attacks. Although Obama has abandoned many of the "war on terror" policies of George Bush while he was president, he is not retreating from the hunt for Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders.

The first attack yesterday was on the village of Zharki, in Waziristan; three missiles destroyed two houses and killed 10 people. One villager told Reuters of phone that of nine bodies pulled from the rubble of one house, six were its owner and his relatives; Reuters added that intelligence officials said some foreign militants were also killed. A second attack hours later also in Warizistan killed eight people.

So i guess Obama must know something we don't know huh??!! :wall: