escalation of Israeli-palestinian conflict

[burgundia]

israeli attack in Gaza. 155 dead,
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/27/gaza.israel.strikes/index.html

[Egg]

It makes me very sad inside to see this; the world deserves better from both sides in this situation.
I will say though that as terrible as it is, I fear we are just watching the first exploratory probes to gauge the response to a larger assault.

Terrible, terrible times for all involved.

[burgundia]

It makes me very sad inside to see this; the world deserves better from both sides in this situation.
I will say though that as terrible as it is, I fear we are just watching the first exploratory probes to gauge the response to a larger assault.

Terrible, terrible times for all involved.

I have a similar premonition...

[Humble Janitor]

I'm getting sick of these senseless attacks. Israel attacks Gaza. The US calls for Hamas to stop.

Hello? Where are the condemnations of Israel? Where are the calls for THEM to STOP?

Hello?

Hello?

[HeidiLore]

The Palestinians have no money...so, unfortunately, to those that are evil, they are easily dismissed and systematically destroyed. It is a horribly sad day for those that can see what is going on. I am thinking of the people who have lost family members :(

[Swanny]

Seems to me that a hell of a lot of evil comes from Israel :thumbdown:

[Humble Janitor]

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081215_israels_crime_against_humanity/

Good article that describes the Gaza atrocities.

[Stargazer1965]

There is a tale out there that Israel is the catalyst for the end of days. That it is actually ran by the satanic Jews bent on world destruction. You are right to assume they are politically insulated. They are also sitting on top of the largest best trained air force on earth...not to mention the space based weapons at their disposal.

[Soulmate7]

Sometimes a picture says more than 1000 words.


http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk53/stellar_017/Subhumans.jpg

Subhuman bastards, less than animals.

[Swanny]

. They are also sitting on top of the largest best trained air force on earth...not to mention the space based weapons at their disposal.

Sorry but the Royal air force is the best. Our pilots are second to none. :thumb_yello:

[burgundia]

Sometimes a picture says more than 1000 words.


http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk53/stellar_017/Subhumans.jpg

Subhuman bastards, less than animals.

Don't offend animals.

[deb003]

My God!
Is anybody else as OUTRAGE as I am watching images of children, babies, women, and men being murdered and injured in these atrocious striked from Israel to Gaza?
And more outraged I am watching the US side with Israel and offer no reaction to this massacre!
Something HAS to change. I am so sick to my stomach of watching people die from wars and massacres.
I want to go out into the streets in protest against this!!
I am working though so i can feed my family but I feel so powerless watching my human brothers and sisters being massacred and worst that the sheeple don't even react!!!
our society is working backwards! I HATE this system! I hate this NWO!!
Ok, I need to breathe! I am mad as hell and I can't take it anymore!

Okay, time to breathe!!

[burgundia]

My God!
Is anybody else as OUTRAGE as I am watching images of children, babies, women, and men being murdered and injured in these atrocious striked from Israel to Gaza?
And more outraged I am watching the US side with Israel and offer no reaction to this massacre!
Something HAS to change. I am so sick to my stomach of watching people die from wars and massacres.
I want to go out into the streets in protest against this!!
I am working though so i can feed my family but I feel so powerless watching my human brothers and sisters being massacred and worst that the sheeple don't even react!!!
our society is working backwards! I HATE this system! I hate this NWO!!
Ok, I need to breathe! I am mad as hell and I can't take it anymore!

Okay, time to breathe!!

My advice: do not hate, be angry for a while but do not hate. this is what they want us to do. They want us to emanate negative energy.

[deb003]

Thanks Burgundia.
Yes, I am getting some air. I can be angry and release but you're right, the hate will only hurt me and it's not good for the world.
I will also pray for the people who are hurting and send them lots and lots of love.

[mpea]

My advice: do not hate, be angry for a while but do not hate. this is what they want us to do. They want us to emanate negative energy.

Hi Deb,

Hope you are feeling better now, Burgudia's advice is the way to go. We cannot allow them make us hate, they'll only feed and grow from that energy. Send them all your love and ask that the angels (higher dimensional beings) cast their loving light on all humanity.

Peace and blessings

Mpea

[Steve_G]

This is an article worth reading on the subject.

http://www.counterpunch.org/

Edit: Article is on homepage and may not be there for long, so here it is in full.

Before Our Very Eyes
Israel's Attempted Endgame in Gaza

By JENNIFER LOEWENSTEIN

The intensity of the bombings on Saturday, which left over 230 people dead and 800 wounded, many seriously, was what struck one witness, R., who claimed never to have heard so many explosions so close together and for such an uninterrupted period of time inside the Gaza Strip. One after another, the explosions sounded, most of them near heavily populated areas; and in one case only 30 meters away from his daughter’s elementary school.

The bombings were timed to cause the maximum number of “enemy” casualties. They occurred at approximately 11:20am on a bustling Saturday morning, just as schools were changing shifts and many children were either leaving for home or coming to afternoon classes; when offices were filled with their employees, and streets busy with the late morning crowds out getting lunch or on quick errands of one sort or another. The day before, Israel had opened some of the crossings into Gaza to let in another trickle of humanitarian aid. ‘See how generous we are to our enemy!’ they exclaim with straight faces to the international media. Each time Gaza reaches the brink of starvation and ruin, they let in just enough food and supplies to silence potential critics. Then the next round begins. It is hardly surprising. After all, this policy was outlined publicly by Dov Weisglass not so long ago when he promised that Israel would put Gaza on a punishing “starvation diet” until it saw reason and evicted its democratically elected government. Many people, including members of the Hamas government, believed that reopening the crossings to international aid signaled another brief lull in military activity, as it usually had, while the IDF General staff prepared its next offensive. In this way were the people and government of Gaza unprepared for the next day’s slaughter

The deliberate ploy to strike at midday when the collective population of Gaza had let down its guard for a few short hours had its intended effect. One of the deadliest massacres in the history of Israel’s occupation of Palestine followed as F-16 fighter jets, helicopter gun ships, tanks, armored vehicles and pilot-less drones closed in on the Gaza Strip. By Monday morning over 300 people were dead and 1000 injured. Hospitals were overflowing with the seriously wounded; the morgues with the dead for whom they had insufficient refrigeration. Insufficient medical personnel, equipment, supplies and services raised the likelihood of many more dying in their overused beds waiting for the help and attention they would never get. The taxi driver R. hailed to get him to his daughter’s school as quickly as possible after those first strikes had begun initially refused, staring in shock as columns of smoke rose from brand new layers of debris.

The sound of F-16s flying overhead dropping bombs is not a sound one ever forgets. In other words, 750,000 children –or half the population of Gaza—have it ingrained in their memories for the rest of their lives. Another equally unacceptable percentage of this group will have had images burned into their minds’ eyes of the devastation and death wrought by these sounds as well, a factor that partially explains why more than 50 per cent of Gaza’s three-quarters of a million children suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder: it isn’t easy to see piles of the dead or their blown apart body parts without some kind of reaction. Violent, action-packed Hollywood war and terror films may provide us with virtual reality, but when the severed jaw of a woman is lying at your feet only a few inches away from her bloody and disfigured head, or when the bare leg of a man is lying by itself in a room, the rest of the body blown outside the house, the illusory atmosphere of the virtual world is quickly replaced by the raw, heavy emotions that accompany real world sequences. This is when paralyzing fright grips you so firmly that your legs forget how to move; how to flee the gruesome nightmare scenarios. You can’t run away.

In the course of a few short hours American-made, Israeli-flown fighter jets had successfully blotted out the lives of more than 230 people and by the end of the weekend over 300, the rough equivalence of two fully packed IMAX theaters. At least 70 of the victims were civilians, a number of them young children. A mother in Rafah bent over the corpses of her three dead children screaming, unable to stop, horrified eye witness T., who wrote up the day’s events as if the formal documentation of an overpowering human event could serve as a form of catharsis.

Most of the dead were young men training to become police officers, or newly on the job, because it is one of the only ways left to acquire paid work today in the Gaza Strip. With the siege of Gaza and the subsequent withering of its civil society and infrastructure, its industries, shops and restaurants, banks and social services, came the skyrocketing unemployment figures and the controlled collapse of an economy kept ‘alive’ by the slow drip of international humanitarian aid allowed in on that generous whim of the occupation officer: perhaps one more time so that the wasting body of Gaza can take in another breath. Just the right place to build a Dubai on the Mediterranean, an American journalist once put it, just as the ‘disengagement’ phase of the siege kicked in.

That same journalist and his buddies in the overseas Western press offices will have been the first to confirm for you in today’s ‘respectable’ news Israel’s interpretation of the events, mentioning as if in a footnote to the weekend’s activities, Israel’s recently announced Public Relations’ push intended to make any major military offensive into Gaza palatable to the outside world by sucking the humanity out of the 230+ bodies before they were even dead: the strikes on Gaza were taken as necessary ‘security measures’ after repeated attempts to maintain a ‘ceasefire’ had failed when ‘Hamas operatives’ fired rockets into ‘civilian areas’ in Israel. This myth will be left unchallenged because there is too much power behind it to jeopardize whole careers; and because it is much easier to accept the fact that your government just backed the pre-meditated murder of over 200 terrorists –and a few wannabes—than it is to realize that the overwhelming number of dead were completely innocent; that they had died for wanting a job, a paycheck and a sliver of dignity.

“HAMAS”… the word that, in this case, renders any action taken by the other side, no matter how barbaric or sadistic, legitimate. Couple any noun with the preceding adjective “Hamas” and it will be immediately quarantined as if tainted by some infectious bacteria. This is how to dehumanize a million and a half people overnight; how to render them different from us and dangerous to us. While it is true that a poll showing what the average American knows about Hamas might be cause for concern; a poll showing what the average elite-educated American knows about Hamas would reveal immediately how effective voluntary indoctrination in democratic societies has become and why those with the power to stop crimes against humanity overnight refuse to do so even after they understand that what they’re doing is wrong.

From the 7th floor of his high-rise apartment building looking out over Gaza City on Saturday night, S. describes the view as “a sea of blackness”. The familiar twinkling of lights that defines the contours of a city after dark is missing, as if the place itself had been erased from the earth. Without electricity, without cooking gas or automobile fuel; without heat to warm the winter-chilled flats across this stretch of land, or generators to back up the hospitals and clinics; without supplies for schools and universities, for personal and collective health and hygiene, or for repairing any part of this broken down hovel of a strip; without water to drink or cook with or bathe in, without reading lamps and, lately, without the candles or other substitutes used for light, people are making haste to adjust yet again to the latest set of conditions imposed upon them as the US-backed siege of Gaza closes in on another dying December day.

Their resilience is inspirational but painful. Tomorrow S. will head down to Rafah, to the border city, where kerosene is still available albeit for quadruple the normal price –or more: A system of nearly 800 smuggling tunnels running from Rafah, Gaza to Rafah, Egypt, controlled by a few savvy black-marketeer families and up to now tacitly supported by Israel, appears to be nearing collapse as well as everything else. Rumors of an Israeli Air Force strike that would doom the last remaining big business venture in the Strip have helped shut them down, even the ones licensed by the Hamas government, which got its share of goods for the best prices as the once-illegal smuggling industry turned for a brief period of time into Gaza’s only reliable all-purpose supply-line. On Sunday the rumors caved in on the tunnels as bulldozers and bomber jets blasted them flat. Now the supply line has been cut, the siege persists, the US condemns Hamas, refusing to ask for Israeli restraint. In Rafah, the demise of the tunnels – like the recently re-fortified border closure on the Egyptian side of the Crossing—has an ominous finality about it that should give us pause before we turn our faces away.

Major General Yoav Galant of the Israeli Southern Command declared Saturday that an attack on the Hamas regime must ‘send Gaza decades into the past’ militarily and must cause the “maximum number of enemy casualties” (Haaretz, 12/28/08; by Uri Blau, By “enemy” he means “Palestinian” as the evidence overwhelmingly shows; and if Galant is to be taken seriously according to his own perceptions of the “enemy” and of the time frame within which an operation of this sort is possible, we have reached a milestone in the history of the Palestinian National Movement and in the life of Gaza that bodes ill for the dream of Palestine while sharpening the regional fault lines that have crystallized beneath the Rafah sands.

[Antaletriangle]

I agree with every comment on this page-it's sick and what pis**s me rate off is how the general public sit back go to the fridge get another beer,peanuts and watch the news,turn the channel over and sit easy watching a film on the other channel!!??I feel helpless-i cannot physically go over there for lots of reasons-what can i do only send love but i feel this love would do nothing practical-i know i'm talking on a physical level but c'mon people this is madness-everywhere you turn hatred,killing,starvation etc etc even when i go to the shops i smile at people sometimes and all i receive back is mostly glares and feelings of fear in their eyes-it's bloomin' everywhere sorry to say i'm not being negative,yet i am sounding negative just my observations and feelings tend not to betray me any longer-the beast is prowling.I'm very pee'd off with this-i feel it's the escalation of the soul war also;vanquish the darkness-we all try to bring light into other people's lives simply with a smile or helping someone with something or other-i feel too much anger is rife and the popular media is a catalyst to this,kids are angry with their elders,their elders are angry with their peers...and the main source of this is the media telling you this is right that is wrong,buy this,buy that,don't do this,do that..on and on-(land of confusion; the only good song phil collins ever wrote!!LOL). Apologies there as i was just trying to lighten up my disgust at the present.Forgive me but it's what i see-anyone who walks away from these things and doesn't discuss needs to wake up.

[Northern Boy]

Where is the proof that Hamas fired the first missile coming from and there you will find the answer to who is at fault here

[Delphi]

I read this thread and I read Steven's thread Our love for humanity, and somehow, however sickened, powerless etc we feel about what's going on in Gaza, we have it within our hearts to put the two together.
I have the places where I am in conflict with myself: I have the choice to allow the conflicts to continue or to heal: I have the choice to apply the wisdom of the doctor in Hawaii (quoted by Mudra on hte love for humanity thread) to myself and to Gaza. And at least it is doing SOMETHING rather than wringing my hands saying oh ****

love to all

[Antaletriangle]

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/12/28/the-hanukah-massacre-on-gaza-judaism-in-its-finest-hour/
« Israel Warns America Yet Again–There’s “Hell To Pay” For Not Attacking IranThe Hanukah Massacre on Gaza–Judaism in its Finest Hour
“When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are to possess and casts out the many peoples living there, you shall then slaughter them all and utterly destroy them…You shall make no agreements with them nor show them any mercy…You shall destroy their altars, break down their images, cut down their groves and burn their graven images with fire. For you are a holy people unto the LORD thy God and He has chosen you to be a special people above all others upon the face of the earth…”

–Book of Deuteronomy, 7:1-8

The aerial assault on Gaza thus far resulting in several hundred deaths and close to a thousand casualties (much of which will result in even more deaths) must–if it is to be understood correctly–be placed within the historical context of the religious ideas expounded by Judaism since its inception and which today constitute the philosophical lifeblood of the state of Israel.

It is an increasingly popular fad these days amongst those taking the moral high road against Israel’s 60 year-long orgy of violence and bloodshed against the indigenous Semites of Palestine, Lebanon and other surrounding areas to erect a separation wall between “Zionism” as a violent, racist political movement and “Judaism” as a “holy religion” devoted to the worship of God. Such arguments, whether made by groups such as Neturei Karta or “Rabbis For Human Rights” or whoever maintain that the two ideologies are as different from each other as the lion is to the lamb. Some go so far as to refer to Herzl, the founding father of Zionism as a “heretic” who abandoned the “godliness” of Judaism in favor of a secular, Marxist ideology responsible for creating the modern Jewish state.

However, despite some very impressive arguments made by prominent individuals and groups in trying to paint this picture the fact is that the aforementioned argument is as real as any other fantasy created by Jewish Hollywood that defies the laws of reason or reality. Modern day Zionism and Judaism are synonymous, and it has been the fundamental misunderstanding of this fact that has brought the situation to where it is today, both in the Holy Land and in the present “Clash of Civilizations” between the West and the Islamic world.

Judaism is based upon the Old Testament, and in particular, the first five books that constitute “The Law”, referred to as “The Torah”. As many undoubtedly remember from their Sunday school classes, it begins with the story of creation, the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, Noah’s ark and other seemingly harmless tales of persons and events.

The point at which it transforms into the creature responsible for so much of today’s mayhem is when Abraham, a landless, penniless nomad living in modern day Iraq, begins hearing voices in his head telling him he has been favored by a God named Yahweh who than promises him a future of wealth, land, power and superiority over all other persons, encapsulating this idea with “I will bless those who bless thee and curse those who curse thee”. Shortly thereafter, he again hears voices in his head telling him to engage in the barbarity of human sacrifice by killing his own son Isaac in worshipping this God named Yahweh. With knife at the throat of his son and a mere few seconds away from becoming a murderer, he is then prevented from doing so by an angel, and some 3 generations later, his descendents (made up by 12 tribes) come to be known as “Israelites”.

Not long afterwards an Israelite named Moses also begins hearing voices from this same god, telling him to rescue the Israelites being “oppressed and persecuted” by the Egyptians. After a series of plagues brought against the oppressors–seemingly a fulfillment of Yahweh’s promise to “Curse those who curse” the descendents of Abraham, Moses–again, under the direction of the voices he is hearing–orders the Israelites to steal all the gold and silver of Egypt and to follow him to the land “promised” them by Yahweh residing between the two great rivers, the Nile and the Euphrates. Before entering this land however, Moses instructs the Israelites that they are to kill all the inhabitants, man, woman and child–”infant and suckling” and to rob them of all their possessions. An extermination campaign is mounted, in effect a “holocaust” of the Semitic peoples in the promised land, left unfinished by Moses but taken up again by his protégé Joshua and other subsequent leaders such as Saul and David.

By the time all is said and done, 31 cities inhabited by non-Israelite peoples–including but not limited to the Midianites, Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Hivites–have been completely destroyed. The only non-Israelites allowed to remain alive are young girls “who have never slept with man” who then become concubines for the Israelites as well as those adults who resign themselves to live as “carriers of water and hewers of wood”–in effect, slaves for God’s chosen people.

So in other words, Zionism–the idea that the “Chosen people” were promised the land encompassing modern day Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and elsewhere and were given the commandment to expel, murder and enslave the peoples and civilizations already there got its start with Abraham and was later put into practice by Moses and those who came after him. By definition then, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, Saul, David and all the other “Patriarchs” (the George Washingtons, Thomas Jeffersons and John Adams of “Israel”) were Zionists.

Putting this into context, any other person or group of persons claiming to have received divine messages from some “higher power” telling them they were superior creatures and commanding them to invade, slaughter, enslave and rob other peoples not like them would–rightly–be branded criminally insane, delusional, fanatical and locked away for life. As it is today though, this situation is not categorized as such. Rather, it has been made into a “holy” religion that guides the actions of a nuclear-armed nation.

As all who understand the situation in Palestine can attest, the moment the Jews made their “exodus” from the various lands they previously inhabited and returned to “redeem and make clean” the Promised land, they have repeated the very same process of killing, expelling and enslaving today’s version of the ancient Midianites, Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Hivites, etc of Moses’ heyday. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. The Jews of today are in effect trying to implement 21st century BC ideas in a 21st century AD world with results no different than what took place as recounted in the Old Testament. It is this history that forms the foundation of their existence as a people and now as a nuclear-armed, messianic nation. The only difference between the Israelites of old and those of today is that when today’s Israelites “smite” the non-Israelite inhabitants living in close proximity to them they do not hack them to pieces with the edge of a sword or an axe but rather blow them to pieces with hellfire missiles, Apache attack helicopters and one-ton bombs made in the USA.

This being the case, it only stands to reason then that massacres such as what took place 2 days after Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ occur. Just as Christians go to church on Sundays and Muslims to mosque on Fridays to commemorate the persons and circumstances of their respective faiths, so too must the Jews engage in the same type of holy war against the non-Israelite peoples living in or near their “promised land” as a means of “keeping the Lord’s day holy”. This genocide against civilians is the glue that holds them together as a people and prevents what is an orgnically-fractured nation nation from disintegrating from within. The fact that this latest massacre took place during the religious festival of Hanukkah, (the festival of lights) where the Jews celebrate the “temple” being rescued and redeemed from the Assyrians over 2,000 years ago lends even more credence to the notion that for them it is all about religion and has nothing to do with the stated justifications of “security”. The fact that the Gazans were starved for months upon months prior to this recent holocaust is yet one more manifestation of this religious mindset, and in particular the commandment to “Cut down the groves” of the non-Israelites living in the promised land.

A recent case (covered by Palestinian journalist Khalid Ameyreh) taking place in Israel just prior to the Gaza massacre adds even more proof to this idea of encompassing “Judaism VS the world”. Said case involves one Daniela Weise, a rabidly anti-Gentile “Israelite” who regularly quotes from the Old Testament, telling hundreds of Jewish fanatics it is a mitzvah (religious commandment) to attack Arabs and murder them because “their lives have no sanctity and their property belongs to us” and adding that “The Bible shows us the way we should be dealing with the Arabs. The Bible can’t be wrong“. In another similar case, an American tourist in Israel recently engaged in a discussion with a Jew where the following exchange took place–

Israeli Jew–“You are a Christian, aren’t you?”

American–“Yes”

Israeli Jew–“Do you believe in the Bible?”

American–“Yes”

Israeli Jew–“Well then, you know God ordered the ancient Israelites to wipe off the goyim (gentiles) from the holy land of Israel. If that was right then, why can’t it be right now?”

As all are told (and have been on a daily basis now for the last century) Israel is not like other nations. Both secular and religious leaders have gone to great lengths in trying to sell the idea that the Jewish state is the “embodiment of God’s word” on earth. As former Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir once quipped Israel is “The fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself…It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy.”

What all of this means in the final analysis is that as long as Israel (a nation founded on the Old Testament tales of genocide, rape, pillage, expulsion and enslavement of “the other”) exists, massacres such as the one taking place against the Palestinians in Gaza will be a regular occurrence, just as they have been throughout the last 60 years. Having been nursed on the poisoned milk of tribal supremacism first envisioned by a greedy, covetous, ambitious nomad hearing voices in his head complimenting his own delusions of grandeur and later adopted by the great “Patriarchs” that manifested itself in violence and bloodshed of innocents as extolled in the religion known as Judaism means that the Jewish state MUST engage in these acts as a means of paying homage to the deity Yahweh.

Although 2,000 years too late, it is imperative now more than ever that the world come to grips with these facts, and until it does that “great day of reckoning” commonly referred to as Armageddon will continue to barrel towards civilization like an out-of-control freight train. The curing of any disease begins with isolating the cause, and in the case of the present circumstance involving the Jewish state being at war with the entire world (and more specifically against the Arabs in Palestine) it is the recognition of the “I will bless those who bless thee and curse those who curse thee” mindset coupled with the justification of genocide and enslavement of “the other” that threatens all life on earth.

Anyone needing proof of this should simply visit some of the photos of the most recent massacre taking place against the Palestinians–Christian and Muslim alike–who are and have been sacrificed now for the last 60 years on the altar of twisted Judaistic thinking. This most recent massacre taking place during the Jewish “festival of lights”, where Gaza was “lighted up” with balls of fire after 200,000 lbs of high-explosives were dropped on schoolchildren is proof positive that Israel is not a nation of people devoted to a righteous, loving God, but rather a civilization of vampires making up the caricature of the beast described in the Book of Revelation that threatens all life on earth. And unless the rest of the world comes to this “revelation”, they too will soon find themselves in the same place as those today being exterminated in the interests of appeasing the “God” of the Jews.

[burgundia]

In the light of what we now know to be "the god of Israel", who really decided for them to be "chosen people"? Creator God would never choose one people over another.

[Dantheman62]

TEHRAN, Iran – A group of influential conservative Iranian clerics launched an online registration drive on Monday seeking volunteers to fight against Israel in response to its air assault on the Gaza Strip.

About 3,550 people registered Monday with the Combatant Clergy Society's Web site. The weeklong online campaign gives volunteers three options on ways they can fight Israel: military, financial and propaganda.

The group, which has considerable political and economic power in Iran, did not provide further details on the program including how it would contact the volunteers or implement the program.

The conservative clerics decided to sign up volunteers after Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a religious decree on Sunday that said anyone killed while defending Palestinians in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip against Israeli attacks would be considered a martyr.

Khamenei's religious decree was not considered a government decision and did not oblige the government to launch attacks against Israel.

But Iran considers Israel its archenemy, and its President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for the destruction of the Jewish state. Iran also is Hamas' main backer, though Tehran denies sending weapons to the Islamic militant group that took control of the Gaza Strip in June 2007.

Israel's airstrikes on the Gaza Strip have sparked outrage in Iran and throughout the rest of the Muslim world. About 300 Palestinians have been killed and more than 1,000 wounded since the air assault began Saturday. Israel says it launched its campaign in retaliation for rocket fire aimed at civilians in southern Israeli towns.

Also Monday, the Iranian Red Crescent sent a ship carrying 2,000 tons of food to Palestinians living in Gaza to be delivered via Egypt. An Iranian military plane also landed at Cairo International Airport carrying 24 tons of food and medicine destined for Gaza.

The head of Iran's Red Crescent, Masoud Khatami, said three more ships were waiting to be loaded with humanitarian aid, and Iranian hospitals were ready to receive injured Gazans, according to the official Iran news agency, IRNA.

[mpea]

I read this thread and I read Steven's thread Our love for humanity, and somehow, however sickened, powerless etc we feel about what's going on in Gaza, we have it within our hearts to put the two together.
I have the places where I am in conflict with myself: I have the choice to allow the conflicts to continue or to heal: I have the choice to apply the wisdom of the doctor in Hawaii (quoted by Mudra on hte love for humanity thread) to myself and to Gaza. And at least it is doing SOMETHING rather than wringing my hands saying oh ****

love to all

Thank you Delphi, for reminding me, there is something we can do and it's no small thing and thank you Mudra for posting the story about the doctor in Hawaii. The situation in Gaza is horrific and because we all here at Avalon have the love of the Comos awake within us it hurts and affects us deeply when we see what is a part of us hurting another part of us. We can overcome with love, we are all one. I urge you all to follow Astalwalkers thread, come together and we can help heal. Light will always overcome dark but before it does it may get darker.

Blessings and may the angels watch over all of humanity

Mpea

[K626]

TEHRAN, Iran – A group of influential conservative Iranian clerics launched an online registration drive on Monday seeking volunteers to fight against Israel in response to its air assault on the Gaza Strip.

About 3,550 people registered Monday with the Combatant Clergy Society's Web site. The weeklong online campaign gives volunteers three options on ways they can fight Israel: military, financial and propaganda.

The group, which has considerable political and economic power in Iran, did not provide further details on the program including how it would contact the volunteers or implement the program.

The conservative clerics decided to sign up volunteers after Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a religious decree on Sunday that said anyone killed while defending Palestinians in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip against Israeli attacks would be considered a martyr.

Khamenei's religious decree was not considered a government decision and did not oblige the government to launch attacks against Israel.

But Iran considers Israel its archenemy, and its President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for the destruction of the Jewish state. Iran also is Hamas' main backer, though Tehran denies sending weapons to the Islamic militant group that took control of the Gaza Strip in June 2007.

Israel's airstrikes on the Gaza Strip have sparked outrage in Iran and throughout the rest of the Muslim world. About 300 Palestinians have been killed and more than 1,000 wounded since the air assault began Saturday. Israel says it launched its campaign in retaliation for rocket fire aimed at civilians in southern Israeli towns.

Also Monday, the Iranian Red Crescent sent a ship carrying 2,000 tons of food to Palestinians living in Gaza to be delivered via Egypt. An Iranian military plane also landed at Cairo International Airport carrying 24 tons of food and medicine destined for Gaza.

The head of Iran's Red Crescent, Masoud Khatami, said three more ships were waiting to be loaded with humanitarian aid, and Iranian hospitals were ready to receive injured Gazans, according to the official Iran news agency, IRNA.

Fair play to Iran.

[Northern Boy]

TEHRAN, Iran – A group of influential conservative Iranian clerics launched an online registration drive on Monday seeking volunteers to fight against Israel in response to its air assault on the Gaza Strip.

About 3,550 people registered Monday with the Combatant Clergy Society's Web site. The weeklong online campaign gives volunteers three options on ways they can fight Israel: military, financial and propaganda.

The group, which has considerable political and economic power in Iran, did not provide further details on the program including how it would contact the volunteers or implement the program.

The conservative clerics decided to sign up volunteers after Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a religious decree on Sunday that said anyone killed while defending Palestinians in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip against Israeli attacks would be considered a martyr.

Khamenei's religious decree was not considered a government decision and did not oblige the government to launch attacks against Israel.

But Iran considers Israel its archenemy, and its President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for the destruction of the Jewish state. Iran also is Hamas' main backer, though Tehran denies sending weapons to the Islamic militant group that took control of the Gaza Strip in June 2007.

Israel's airstrikes on the Gaza Strip have sparked outrage in Iran and throughout the rest of the Muslim world. About 300 Palestinians have been killed and more than 1,000 wounded since the air assault began Saturday. Israel says it launched its campaign in retaliation for rocket fire aimed at civilians in southern Israeli towns.

Also Monday, the Iranian Red Crescent sent a ship carrying 2,000 tons of food to Palestinians living in Gaza to be delivered via Egypt. An Iranian military plane also landed at Cairo International Airport carrying 24 tons of food and medicine destined for Gaza.

The head of Iran's Red Crescent, Masoud Khatami, said three more ships were waiting to be loaded with humanitarian aid, and Iranian hospitals were ready to receive injured Gazans, according to the official Iran news agency, IRNA.
you can be sure the ms media will some how turn this around to blame it on the Iranian Gov`t

[Samarkis]

Namaste!!
I am reposting Mudra's Post here:
We all have work to do on Ourselves and send Light into Earth's Energies!!
Join me world wide from your hearts that Mankind LOVE itself!!!!
Light a candle!! Dedicate at least a moment or two to send love into
our World!

The ancient Hawaian healing method of Ho'oponopono or the power to set things right through the use of Love is quite fascinating. See for yourself..here is a remarquable story:

Two years ago, I heard about a therapist in Hawaii who cured a complete ward of criminally insane patients--without ever seeing any of them. The psychologist would study an inmate's chart and then look within himself to see how he created that person's illness. As he improved himself, the patient improved.
When I first heard this story, I thought it was an urban legend. How could anyone heal anyone else by healing himself? How could even the best self-improvement master cure the criminally insane?

It didn't make any sense. It wasn't logical, so I dismissed the story.
However, I heard it again a year later. I heard that the therapist had used a Hawaiian healing process called ho 'oponopono. I had never heard of it, yet I couldn't let it leave my mind. If the story was at all true, I had to know more.

I had always understood "total responsibility" to mean that I am responsible for what I think and do. Beyond that, it's out of my hands. I think that most people think of total responsibility that way. We're responsible for what we do, not what anyone else does. The Hawaiian therapist who healed those mentally ill people would teach me an advanced new perspective about total responsibility.

His name is Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len. We probably spent an hour talking on our first phone call. I asked him to tell me the complete story of his work as a therapist. He explained that he worked at Hawaii State Hospital for four years. That ward where they kept the criminally insane was dangerous. Psychologists quit on a monthly basis. The staff called in sick a lot or simply quit. People would walk through that ward with their backs against the wall, afraid of being attacked by patients. It was not a pleasant place to live, work, or visit.

Dr. Len told me that he never saw patients. He agreed to have an office and to review their files. While he looked at those files, he would work on himself. As he worked on himself, patients began to heal.
"After a few months, patients that had to be shackled were being allowed to walk freely," he told me. "Others who had to be heavily medicated were getting off their medications. And those who had no chance of ever being released were being freed."
I was in awe.

"Not only that," he went on, "but the staff began to enjoy coming to work. Absenteeism and turnover disappeared. We ended up with more staff than we needed because patients were being released, and all the staff was showing up to work. Today, that ward is closed."

This is where I had to ask the million dollar question: "What were you doing within yourself that caused those people to change?"
"I was simply healing the part of me that created them," he said.
I didn't understand.

Dr. Len explained that total responsibility for your life means that everything in your life - simply because it is in your life--is your responsibility. In a literal sense the entire world is your creation.
Whew. This is tough to swallow. Being responsible for what I say or do is one thing. Being responsible for what everyone in my life says or does is quite another. Yet, the truth is this: if you take complete responsibility for your life, then everything you see, hear, taste, touch, or in any way experience is your responsibility because it is in your life.

This means that terrorist activity, the president, the economy--anything you experience and don't like--is up for you to heal. They don't exist, in a manner of speaking, except as projections from inside you. The problem isn't with them, it's with you, and to change them, you have to change you.

I know this is tough to grasp, let alone accept or actually live. Blame is far easier than total responsibility, but as I spoke with Dr. Len, I began to realize that healing for him and in ho 'oponopono means loving yourself. If you want to improve your life, you have to heal your life. If you want to cure anyone--even a mentally ill criminal--you do it by healing you.

I asked Dr. Len how he went about healing himself. What was he doing, exactly, when he looked at those patients' files?
"I just kept saying, 'I'm sorry' and 'I love you' over and over again," he explained.
That's it?
That's it.

Turns out that loving yourself is the greatest way to improve yourself, and as you improve yourself, your improve your world.

Suffice it to say that whenever you want to improve anything in your life, there's only one place to look: inside you.
"When you look, do it with love."


Kindness
mudra
__________________

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[Myra]

In the light of what we now know to be "the god of Israel", who really decided for them to be "chosen people"? Creator God would never choose one people over another.

I believe that they chose themselves and for eons of time have been trying to brainwash the entire World that it's true. They are nothing but out-of-control egocentric Terrorists.

I am outraged that the US funds their Military. :thumbdown:

[Samarkis]

Great Series!!!!!!!!!!!!Many activist's info!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2qPZ9WqLy4&eurl=http://bulletins.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bulletin.read&authorID=377035054&messageID=6273299414&MyTokeniurl=http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/r2qPZ9WqLy4/hqdefault.jpg&feature=player_embedded

[burgundia]

Namaste!!
I am reposting Mudra's Post here:
We all have work to do on Ourselves and send Light into Earth's Energies!!
Join me world wide from your hearts that Mankind LOVE itself!!!!
Light a candle!! Dedicate at least a moment or two to send love into
our World!

The ancient Hawaian healing method of Ho'oponopono or the power to set things right through the use of Love is quite fascinating. See for yourself..here is a remarquable story:

Two years ago, I heard about a therapist in Hawaii who cured a complete ward of criminally insane patients--without ever seeing any of them. The psychologist would study an inmate's chart and then look within himself to see how he created that person's illness. As he improved himself, the patient improved.
When I first heard this story, I thought it was an urban legend. How could anyone heal anyone else by healing himself? How could even the best self-improvement master cure the criminally insane?

It didn't make any sense. It wasn't logical, so I dismissed the story.
However, I heard it again a year later. I heard that the therapist had used a Hawaiian healing process called ho 'oponopono. I had never heard of it, yet I couldn't let it leave my mind. If the story was at all true, I had to know more.

I had always understood "total responsibility" to mean that I am responsible for what I think and do. Beyond that, it's out of my hands. I think that most people think of total responsibility that way. We're responsible for what we do, not what anyone else does. The Hawaiian therapist who healed those mentally ill people would teach me an advanced new perspective about total responsibility.

His name is Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len. We probably spent an hour talking on our first phone call. I asked him to tell me the complete story of his work as a therapist. He explained that he worked at Hawaii State Hospital for four years. That ward where they kept the criminally insane was dangerous. Psychologists quit on a monthly basis. The staff called in sick a lot or simply quit. People would walk through that ward with their backs against the wall, afraid of being attacked by patients. It was not a pleasant place to live, work, or visit.

Dr. Len told me that he never saw patients. He agreed to have an office and to review their files. While he looked at those files, he would work on himself. As he worked on himself, patients began to heal.
"After a few months, patients that had to be shackled were being allowed to walk freely," he told me. "Others who had to be heavily medicated were getting off their medications. And those who had no chance of ever being released were being freed."
I was in awe.

"Not only that," he went on, "but the staff began to enjoy coming to work. Absenteeism and turnover disappeared. We ended up with more staff than we needed because patients were being released, and all the staff was showing up to work. Today, that ward is closed."

This is where I had to ask the million dollar question: "What were you doing within yourself that caused those people to change?"
"I was simply healing the part of me that created them," he said.
I didn't understand.

Dr. Len explained that total responsibility for your life means that everything in your life - simply because it is in your life--is your responsibility. In a literal sense the entire world is your creation.
Whew. This is tough to swallow. Being responsible for what I say or do is one thing. Being responsible for what everyone in my life says or does is quite another. Yet, the truth is this: if you take complete responsibility for your life, then everything you see, hear, taste, touch, or in any way experience is your responsibility because it is in your life.

This means that terrorist activity, the president, the economy--anything you experience and don't like--is up for you to heal. They don't exist, in a manner of speaking, except as projections from inside you. The problem isn't with them, it's with you, and to change them, you have to change you.

I know this is tough to grasp, let alone accept or actually live. Blame is far easier than total responsibility, but as I spoke with Dr. Len, I began to realize that healing for him and in ho 'oponopono means loving yourself. If you want to improve your life, you have to heal your life. If you want to cure anyone--even a mentally ill criminal--you do it by healing you.

I asked Dr. Len how he went about healing himself. What was he doing, exactly, when he looked at those patients' files?
"I just kept saying, 'I'm sorry' and 'I love you' over and over again," he explained.
That's it?
That's it.

Turns out that loving yourself is the greatest way to improve yourself, and as you improve yourself, your improve your world.

Suffice it to say that whenever you want to improve anything in your life, there's only one place to look: inside you.
"When you look, do it with love."


Kindness
mudra
__________________

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Excellent move. i was thinking that that post was needed here.

[Soulmate7]

Interesting read:
Today I end my support of Israel (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/28/114432/83/489/677860)

[Antaletriangle]

That is interesting soulmate7-a zionist that has forsaken his country because of the constant maiming and slaughter of innocent people for their own peace of mind!!Wild stuff.Thanks for the link.

[Carmen]

Namaste!!
I am reposting Mudra's Post here:
We all have work to do on Ourselves and send Light into Earth's Energies!!
Join me world wide from your hearts that Mankind LOVE itself!!!!
Light a candle!! Dedicate at least a moment or two to send love into
our World!

The ancient Hawaian healing method of Ho'oponopono or the power to set things right through the use of Love is quite fascinating. See for yourself..here is a remarquable story:

Two years ago, I heard about a therapist in Hawaii who cured a complete ward of criminally insane patients--without ever seeing any of them. The psychologist would study an inmate's chart and then look within himself to see how he created that person's illness. As he improved himself, the patient improved.
When I first heard this story, I thought it was an urban legend. How could anyone heal anyone else by healing himself? How could even the best self-improvement master cure the criminally insane?

It didn't make any sense. It wasn't logical, so I dismissed the story.
However, I heard it again a year later. I heard that the therapist had used a Hawaiian healing process called ho 'oponopono. I had never heard of it, yet I couldn't let it leave my mind. If the story was at all true, I had to know more.

I had always understood "total responsibility" to mean that I am responsible for what I think and do. Beyond that, it's out of my hands. I think that most people think of total responsibility that way. We're responsible for what we do, not what anyone else does. The Hawaiian therapist who healed those mentally ill people would teach me an advanced new perspective about total responsibility.

His name is Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len. We probably spent an hour talking on our first phone call. I asked him to tell me the complete story of his work as a therapist. He explained that he worked at Hawaii State Hospital for four years. That ward where they kept the criminally insane was dangerous. Psychologists quit on a monthly basis. The staff called in sick a lot or simply quit. People would walk through that ward with their backs against the wall, afraid of being attacked by patients. It was not a pleasant place to live, work, or visit.

Dr. Len told me that he never saw patients. He agreed to have an office and to review their files. While he looked at those files, he would work on himself. As he worked on himself, patients began to heal.
"After a few months, patients that had to be shackled were being allowed to walk freely," he told me. "Others who had to be heavily medicated were getting off their medications. And those who had no chance of ever being released were being freed."
I was in awe.

"Not only that," he went on, "but the staff began to enjoy coming to work. Absenteeism and turnover disappeared. We ended up with more staff than we needed because patients were being released, and all the staff was showing up to work. Today, that ward is closed."

This is where I had to ask the million dollar question: "What were you doing within yourself that caused those people to change?"
"I was simply healing the part of me that created them," he said.
I didn't understand.

Dr. Len explained that total responsibility for your life means that everything in your life - simply because it is in your life--is your responsibility. In a literal sense the entire world is your creation.
Whew. This is tough to swallow. Being responsible for what I say or do is one thing. Being responsible for what everyone in my life says or does is quite another. Yet, the truth is this: if you take complete responsibility for your life, then everything you see, hear, taste, touch, or in any way experience is your responsibility because it is in your life.

This means that terrorist activity, the president, the economy--anything you experience and don't like--is up for you to heal. They don't exist, in a manner of speaking, except as projections from inside you. The problem isn't with them, it's with you, and to change them, you have to change you.

I know this is tough to grasp, let alone accept or actually live. Blame is far easier than total responsibility, but as I spoke with Dr. Len, I began to realize that healing for him and in ho 'oponopono means loving yourself. If you want to improve your life, you have to heal your life. If you want to cure anyone--even a mentally ill criminal--you do it by healing you.

I asked Dr. Len how he went about healing himself. What was he doing, exactly, when he looked at those patients' files?
"I just kept saying, 'I'm sorry' and 'I love you' over and over again," he explained.
That's it?
That's it.

Turns out that loving yourself is the greatest way to improve yourself, and as you improve yourself, your improve your world.

Suffice it to say that whenever you want to improve anything in your life, there's only one place to look: inside you.
"When you look, do it with love."


Kindness
mudra
__________________

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z299/Samarkis/427503030_d2babd857b.jpg
Love your post Mudra. It is a wonderful one and is exactly what I needed (created!) to hear at this time. To be reminded that everything in our life is our own creation. Whatever we observe and how we observe it is our responsibility. Thanks

[Carmen]

Interesting read:
Today I end my support of Israel (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/28/114432/83/489/677860)
Soulmate that read your posted for us is so sad. Israel's actions towards its Palestinian neighbour appears to be quite sick and totally lacking in humanitarianism and any sort of progress. When do both sides say "enough". Revenge killing just goes round and round endlessly.

[Samarkis]

SENDING (((((((LOVE)))))) to ALL !!!!!!!!!


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[Humble Janitor]

Interesting read:
Today I end my support of Israel (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/28/114432/83/489/677860)

I read that and commented on it.

It's nice to see that there are people who are slowly waking up to the ******** that Israel is pushing, even if it's going to take quite a while.

Have to agree with the message of sending love to those who dearly need it. I want only love between people in the Middle East, even if it seems unrealistic at first.

[Soulmate7]

I read that and commented on it.

It's nice to see that there are people who are slowly waking up to the ******** that Israel is pushing, even if it's going to take quite a while.

Have to agree with the message of sending love to those who dearly need it. I want only love between people in the Middle East, even if it seems unrealistic at first.

One of the comments over there caught my attention:

i am sorry israel, you CANNOT play the victim and be the oppressor, it is one or the other.
So true.

I also agree with the consensus that we should oppress our anger and feed them with love, but it's not easy. You guys are doing a great job at calming me down (which is not a sinecure in my case when dealing with disproportional violence against innocents/children).

[waitinginthewings]

Yesterday, I watched a pic of a young child with its brains pouring out of the top of its head. Gruesome material. I have never seen such a pic before from a war. I didn't feel hatred, but I did feel tears fill my eyes because of the relentless pursuit of violence in our world. I used to feel angry about such things, now its just sadness, & my heart breaks for humanity. We have been prepared for these cruel times, by the movies, vid games, porno, drugs, family violence, pedophilia, etc. etc. The task of these things was to desentize us from feeling any emotion towards what we are now seeing coming out of Palestine. So we share in their suffering, for we are their brothers & sisters, & all we can do is hold them in our hearts in a bond of love.

Let us unite our thoughts of love and send it out to envelop the whole of Palestine now.....May God protect them in their hour of need.

[Soulmate7]

I wonder who owns NYPost. :smoke:

You have to read this NYPost article to believe it! :jawdrop:
DAMNED IF THEY DO
BUT ISRAEL'S DEAD IF THEY DON'T (http://www.nypost.com/seven/12292008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/damned_if_they_do_146263.htm)

[burgundia]

I thought it was Israel that has always played the role of a victim. That article is full of....

But anyway, let's send our love to Israeli soldiers too hoping it will help them to see the truth.

[deb003]

Thanks to all of you who helped me yesterday focus on the love to send to all the people in the middle east, I was able to tune into my own feelings of sadness and powerlessness and forgive myself and the Mideast and myself lots of love.

I also think that we feel very connected to the world here in Avalon and since i know we are all one. When one being is hurt, I feel that I am hurt also.

It happened the same way during the Mumbai attacks. I just felt sad the whole week during those attacks and now as well.

I am ready to do peaceful protests here in Miami. All I have to do is get a good poster and I'm heading to downtown this weekend. I need to use my anger in a positive way!!


Love to all!

[SamWhiteHopi]

Having watched ENDGAME: Blue print for global enslavement, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6970918667972418051 where it is mentioned that during the 2006 meeting of the elite it was hinted that one of the issues on their agenda was how to start a war with Iran, perhaps this is the catalyst. After all we have had Iran and Israel being quite vocal toward each other these passing months.

Israel's moves are like the first air strikes on Iraq by the US. No surprise, IMO, when we consider how close these two countries have been since WWII. And if Israel is being advised by puppet US representative behind the scenes then this could last till the bitter end and not die down like it has always done.

Israel, Iran and Palestine all pawns in the greater picture of deception. The holocaust of WWII was to have the world feel sorry for a nation slaughtered so blatantly and quickly. With that atrocity under the elite’s belts they could then have anyone speak one word wrong about Israel labeled a Nazi or anti Zionist and anti US. Thus the elite’s ploy to have US as Israel’s ‘friend’ to help at all costs and prevent the Israel nation from ever being threatened again. The holocaust as the perfect excuse to protect Israel. USA protect Israel so a similar holocaust situation within another country won’t happen, they might argue. So years have passed and Israel has been used to play a victim role, but the elite know it won’t produce world sympathy (and the posts to Avalon Forum bring this out quite nicely and most of the world is pretty sick of the Israel-Palestine thing anyway), only hate toward Israel from Iran. The elite want WWIII and perhaps this is what they are planning with this conflict. After all, how else are they going to get a war started with Iran unless use some country backed by US to do another Iraq. Israel and the Palestinian conflict has probably been the elites and the dark forces most effective move and piece in their very sick game of real life chess.

Why would the elite want a WWIII when it has so many sick plans for the world these coming five years? Well, I could be wrong but WWIII could accomplish its plans causing the most minimal resistance from humankind.

If WWIII were to start in the next few days/weeks, Bush has the power to retain his presidency doesn’t he? If he were to do that the world will be up in arms as the leaders and others have been eagerly waiting for Obama to take control and started shunning Bush the day Obama won the elections. Bush is seen by most to never end wars unless he spilt the last drop of USA blood and other nations’ blood in the bargain. Obama can not give any opinion over the present conflict. As he said, there can only be one president at a time.

Throwing the world into WWIII would be prefect for the elite’s plans. They can try and cover their tracks by blaming Iran. Most of humankind is blind to the fact that all countries are puppets in the hands of the elite and all this has been planned. So the world will listen to whatever the UN has to say. What a perfect step to the NWO. The financial crisis will pretty much be the least of most peoples worries. War creates jobs. The banks who are controlled by the elite will profit like they have always done from war. Hey, even the big 3 auto makers might get a reprieve if their factories are suddenly turned into factories to produce whatever weapons and so forth for war like in the past. Thus heaps of jobs will be created and many will be willing to fill these jobs in order to ‘save the world’ and if not at least to feed their families. Countless men and women will be called up to war. The internet will be closed down with the excuse it is for national security world wide, after all they have to stop all the ‘terrorists’ speaking with one another, and the only info will come from bogus TV reports.

A WWIII would also help wipe millions of humans off this planet as planned without it being overly obvious. It will be easier to round people up into concentration camps as with all wars people under suspicion are imprisoned even if a obvious innocent family member or friend of a suspect. People will be easily convinced to flee cities under the ploy that the city is a target and live huddled in those already zoned areas of USA in order to better control the populous (what will be left of it). But the elite might just have a few nukes go off in major cities world wide to quickly reduce the population and blame it on the ‘enemy’ after all, who is going to be able to tell who blew up who.

A WWIII will enable the creation of the North American Union having the populous of USA, Mexico and Canada believe all three countries must unite for their common good.

This is not being negative folks. It is being prepared for the possibilities. 2012 if I remember correctly is the year the elite want most of their agenda in place by what I gather from Esoteric Agenda http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6030443037963555139 . Without a war it is going to be very hard to accomplish most of what they want before 2012, IMO. They also have non of their plans set in concrete so as to keep informants, us and our celestial brothers and sisters on our toes. This could be the being of End Game who knows. But something has to give and this just might be it. Personally, I just want it all out of the way so the new fifth era of mankind can begin so all this endless killing that has been going on with humans during the four ages comes to an end. If I get blown to bits tomorrow I don’t care if it means the end of all this madness. Most of my forty years have been filled with grief for mankind and the murder of our Mother Earth.

So don’t give room to anger regarding this conflict or any conflict. I don’t like seeing children blown to bits anymore than the next guy. My own tears since childhood could fill many bottles. The dark forces indeed want us angry and to loose our focus of love toward all people or certain groups of people. No one can truly love as long a hate is felt toward even one person. Especially not good to give in to anger when we don’t know the whole story and who is being manipulated when.

Just my two cents and observations. I would be very interested in hearing others take on this. Others here might have a total different spin on a WWIII being detrimental to the elite’s plans presently. I just can’t see it not being advantageous to them right now. The curtain is closing and they don’t like it. The dark forces have their agenda but so do our celestial brothers and sisters.

[Antaletriangle]

Apologies for posting an article on this thread but i though it better to add to this one than make numerous threads on the same topic.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/29/israelandthepalestinians-middleeast1

The world gives Israel a free hand

The initial response to the crisis in Gaza from countries including Britain has comprised only routine expressions of dismayComments (62)
Simon Tisdall guardian.co.uk, Monday 29 December 2008 20.00 GMT Article historyThe clamour for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza is growing in intensity even as Israel's determination to press home its attack on Hamas grows more dogged. The unfolding result of this fatal divergence is both an escalating humanitarian disaster and a diplomatic debacle for the "international community" that tasked itself with bringing peace to Israel-Palestine.

The formidable capacity of Israel's leaders for ignoring international opinion is nothing new. But if they calculated, before launching the Gaza operation, that they would face only limited external opposition, they have been proven largely correct. The past few days have exposed just how little leverage foreign governments and organisations are able, or are willing, to bring to bear.

As always, the US wields the most clout. But as with Israel's ill-fated 2006 invasion of Lebanon, the Bush administration is sitting on its hands. US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice, whose endless shuttle diplomacy this year is now confirmed in its utter futility, did not even mention Israel's military assault in her first official statement on the situation.

Rice's exact words were: "The US strongly condemns the repeated rocket and mortar attacks against Israel and holds Hamas responsible for breaking the ceasefire and for the renewal of violence in Gaza. The ceasefire should be restored immediately. The US calls on all concerned to address the urgent humanitarian needs of the innocent people of Gaza."

Barack Obama's aides, in explaining the US president-elect's silence, are meanwhile sticking to their mantra that the US only has one president at a time. But as the carnage and the outrage mount, this hands-off stance begins to look less like tact and more like a sign of a man who, confronted by a raw conflict that has defeated many more experienced statesmen before him, lacks new ideas.

Obama and his replacement for Rice, Hillary Clinton, have closely followed the Bush line on the ostracism of Hamas as an illegitimate terrorist organisation. He condemned Hamas rocket attacks in emotive, personalised terms during a visit to Sderot in southern Israel earlier this year.

"If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I'm going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing," Obama said. Arab critics suggested at the time that a balancing line or two about the impact of the Israeli army on Palestinian family life in besieged Gaza would have been welcome.

All the same, some Israeli officials suspect Obama may prove more sympathetic to the Palestinians' overall predicament than his predecessor. That's given as a reason for them to act now in Gaza, while the more pliable George Bush is still notionally at the helm.

The initial response to the crisis from European countries, including Britain, has been mostly formulaic, comprising routine expressions of dismay at the loss of civilian life, harsh words for Hamas, and a gentle tap on Israel's shoulder. British prime minister Gordon Brown's words typified this tiptoeing.
Brown said: "I understand the Israeli government's sense of obligation to its population. Israel needs to meet its humanitarian obligations, act in a way to further the long-term vision of a two-state solution, and do everything in its power to avoid civilian casualties."

Brown added that "Gazan militants" should stop their rocket attacks immediately. But he did not specifically call on Israel to halt military operations. That bias was corrected today by foreign secretary David Miliband. He has been pushing hard in recent months to revive a plan for a comprehensive peace agreement between Israel and all its Arab foes. Miliband demanded both sides should now stop fighting to prevent further "unacceptable" loss of life.

Although Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, criticised what he called Israel's "excessive use of force", the UN security council was, as usual in the case of Israel-Palestine, too divided to agree on anything but a bland expression of concern. The responses of Arab governments, the Arab League, and Organisation of the Islamic Conference have also been generally strong on words but weak on action.

This familiar lack of courage reflects multiple, long-standing divisions between pro-western and non-aligned Arab governments, between supporters of the rival Fatah and Hamas factions, and more broadly between the alienated "Arab street" and the region's mostly unelected, mostly unloved leaders.

But whatever its origins, the practical effect of this collective impotence, coupled with the US and Europe's mealy mouthed approach, is to give Israel a free hand for almost as long as it wants.

The other main consequence is even more disturbing. To the people most affected by the violence, and to Arabs more generally, international inaction looks like complicity with Israel. It looks like collaboration.

All peace talks, bilateral or otherwise, are now on indefinite hold. And the longer the killing continues unchecked, the more radicalising and polarising its impact on ordinary people. It has been a dreadful few days in Gaza. But Iran's Revolutionary Guards and others of their militantly confrontational ilk in Syria and Lebanon must be loving every minute of it.

[deb003]

Now they're blocking humanitarian aid coming to Gaza and shooting at the ship.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=9916


If they placed these graphic images of the children being injured and murdered in Gaza on the Mainstream media, there would be such outrage and push for peace on every street corner in every country.


Notes: These are disturbing images. Moderator, it's up to your disgression.

http://www.uruknet.de/?s1=1&p=50118&s2=30

Please send them all the love in your heart! Them, their parents, their sisters, their brothers, their grandparents, their friends, the doctors, the humanitarians, the nurses. Even their insane perpetrators. They need the light as well.

We are all one!!! One body, One spirit!

We will change things! We make a difference!

[deb003]

If anyone knows how to start a peaceful antiwar/non-violence activist/march please let me know. Maybe there are links on line on how to do that.

I am looking to do that in South Florida but I am not having luck finding them on-line. I hope it's because I don't know how to look....

I went to meetup.com and signed up but I was wondering if there are known groups out there that already do this.

Thanks!

[Delphi]

sorry can't help with south Florida but for anyone in Scotland or northern England details of demos in Glasgow and Edinburgh can be found here
http://www.sacc.org.uk/diary.php?mo=1&yr=2009

I have to be in Edinburgh on Saturday afternoon and i'll go but if it's too polarised I may not stay. It really has to be love to all including those whose actions I deplore.

One day I will live in a world where everyone knows we are one.

[Antonia]

I'm trying to stay calm and not feed a negitive outcome but... This looks to me like the beginning of Dr Deagles vision... A push to involve Iran. An excuse for a major false flag attack on USA soil maybe even nuclear?? martial law Bush stays in power and ww3 is attyempted.. This is their worst case senario.... I will send love and healing to Palastine (Gaza and Isreal) I will pray that David Wilcock's thing about the ET's difusing the nukes is true and visualise a peaceful inoguration of Obama... Even if he is being backed by the Rothchild illumanati faction.... they are a more rational faction then the Rockerfella Bush side who will do anything to detonate their demetad plan.. they have mere days left and they are like cornerd wounded animals.....

The Palistinians are being slaughtered (sacrificed )and I find it hard to hold hate and anger from my heart .I am half Jewish and I feel horrified at this on going massacre of the Palastinions. My mother was a Hungarian/German jew who was a refugee in England and lost 38 family members to the Holocaust yet never supported Zionism or the state of Isreal. This is another Holocaust which in the Torah or Bible means a burnt offering and you offered it in sacrifice to the Annunaki Gods..... Nothing has changed.... I've voiced my rage now I can relaxe and bring my vibration back to that of love and start to emit the right frequincy of compasion to the world grid.....Healing and protection to the Palastinians and love and peace to the Rockerfeller Bush Kabal as well as the Isreali's the Zionists peace be with you all... Peace be with me in my own heart too.... I will focus on the energy of the nexus thread ....we shall be triumphant...we are one and we have already saved the planet and each other in our future time line...(Repeat and believe a thousand times) Antonia

[Delphi]

Partly to bring this thread back towards the top of new posts, mostly because it's by one of the women I most respect, here is the link to Starhawk's article on Israel and Gaza.
http://www.starhawk.org/activism/activism-writings/israel_palestine/on_gaza12-08.html

Note to those assembling the Avalon library, please include Starhawk's writings on permaculture etc

love to all

[Dantheman62]

Here's an article of Pres. Bush on the situation...
WASHINGTON – President George W. Bush on Friday branded the Hamas rocket attacks on Israel an "act of terror" and outlined his own condition for a cease-fire in Gaza, saying no peace deal would be acceptable without monitoring to halt the flow of smuggled weapons to terrorist groups.

Bush chose his weekly taped radio address to speak for the first time about one of the bloodiest Mideast clashes in decades. It began a week ago. Israeli warplanes have rained bombs on Gaza, targeting the Palestinian militant group Hamas, which has traumatized southern Israel with intensifying rocket attacks.

"The United States is leading diplomatic efforts to achieve a meaningful cease-fire that is fully respected," Bush said. "Another one-way cease-fire that leads to rocket attacks on Israel is not acceptable. And promises from Hamas will not suffice — there must be monitoring mechanisms in place to help ensure that smuggling of weapons to terrorist groups in Gaza comes to an end."

[Stargazer1965]

BLOOD WAS RESERVED FOR SACRIFICE

In Israel, blood was reserved for sacrifice, and in this sense ancient Judaism was a very bloody religion. Israel was literally born in blood as the Passover lamb was slain for her deliverance. This blood was placed on the doorposts of all Israelite houses and they were protected as the death angel passed through the land of Egypt (Exo. 12:1ff).
After Israel was delivered from Egypt the whole sacrificial system was established by God in the wilderness. The Tabernacle with all its furnishings was set up and the sacrificial system instituted. This system required the constant shedding of the blood of sacrificial animals. The blood of these animals had to be sprinkled upon the altar to make atonement for sin (Lev. 4:5-6). God says of the blood: "For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life" (Lev. 17:11). Over the centuries as the Tabernacle and later the Temple stood, there must have been millions and millions of sacrifices; millions of gallons or liters of blood shed.
Virtually all sacrifices required the blood of slain birds and animals. Hebrews 9:22 develops this by saying: "In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness."


Shedding of Blood...Maybe nothing has changed.............

RISE OF THE SOUL

[Stargazer1965]

This is good...and a good thought. Maybe Israel owns the US.

Israel Warns America Yet Again–There’s “Hell To Pay” For Not Attacking Iran

To most, the language appears all-too-familiar and not unlike the childhood story of the “boy who cried wolf”. Indeed, it has all the hallmarks of the typical fear-mongering all have come to know all-too-well in recent years featuring a paranoid Zionist military commander working for a notoriously paranoid nation and warning of the next “holocaust” if everyone does not immediately stop what they are doing, pay strict attention and follow the prescribed course of action as laid down by the Jewish state.

Speaking recently at a conference at the Institute for National Security Studies at Tel Aviv University, Israel’s Minister of Defense Ehud Barak sternly warned his audience (and the world at large) that “If Iran acquires a nuclear weapon, it could try to attack the United States,” specifying that if the Islamic Republic built “even a primitive nuclear weapon” similar to the one used in “destroying Hiroshima” that she would “not hesitate to load it on a ship, arm it with a detonator operated by GPS and sail it into a vital port on the east coast of North America.”

The first thing in his statement sticking out like a sore thumb is his confidence, stating UNEQUIVOCALLY that Iran “Would not hesitate” in detonating a nuclear weapon against the world’s most powerful nation. This is the same United States by the way that presently has enough firepower parked off Iran’s coast to destroy her 1,000 times over. This in itself begs the following question–Is this yet another case of the organically unstable Zionist mindset that has become all-too-familiar these days or is there something else? In other words–What does he know that others–including the most sophisticated intelligence agencies working for the US government–don’t know?

It is understandable that some would shrug such rhetoric off, and particularly after the billion or so instances where every man, woman and child on the planet has had to endure the “He wants to wipe Israel off the map” shtick that got real old real fast after the first 500,000 times.

In this case however it would be unwise to assume this latest development involving the defense minister is just another case of bluff and bluster and of the Jewish state “crying wolf” with regards to some new Hitler or Haman. Barak is not just ANY defense minister, but the defense minister a theocratic/fascist enclave that is just DYING to get a war started with Iran. Judging by the news headlines, this is all there is these days within the one-track Zionist mindset. IRAN/IRAN/IRAN/IRAN….No, in this instance the smart money says that these dire predictions may very well take place in what is commonly referred to as a “self-fulfilling prophesy”.

Therefore, what those familiar with Israel’s history should conclude by Barak’s statement is that this is not just another case of empty fear mongering on the part of the Jewish state, but rather a clear and present threat, namely that if America does not do the bidding of the Jewish state by attacking Iran that Israel–out of her black hat of magic tricks–will pull one of her made-to-order false flag attacks against America in order to “get the ball rolling“ in the right direction.

In other words, with the full blessings of every person, place or thing of measurable political power in the Jewish state including Israel’s intelligence service Mossad, Prime Minster Ehud Olmert and Foreign Minister ‘Tzippy“ Livni, what Barak was saying in effect to all the various spies, analysts, intelligence officers and diplomats working in virtually every nation of the world was that–

“If Uncle Sam does not get busy with the business of opening up a new front in our war against the Islamic world, we, the Jewish people, will detonate one of our several hundred nuclear warheads in an east coast American city that will then be blamed on Iran…”

And just in case something might have been “lost in translation” and the thick-headed Gentiles towards whom the threat was being made did not “get it,” Barak concluded his remarks with “We are not taking any option off the table, and we recommend the world not take any option off the table, and we mean what we say.”

Obviously those “options” still “on the table” include Israel resorting to the kind of business in which she has dirtied herself in the past, which just so happens to include attacking (or allowing to be attacked) American interests in order to pin the blame on someone else.

Those who dismiss the possibility that such a threat was indeed made by Israel should understand that there is a language used in the criminal underworld–both at the street level and in the more “sophisticated” world of modern politics–that is almost imperceptible to all except the “initiated”. To the average person phrases such as “I’m going to make him an offer he can’t refuse” sound like perfectly innocuous, simple tidbits of business parlance like “a deal too good to pass up” rather than death threats. Someone sending a personal clothing item along with two dead fishes seems more like a college fraternity prank rather than an announcement that a certain someone now rests peacefully at the bottom of a large body of water.

In truth though, the meaning they convey is one of life and death– “Give us what we want if you want to stay alive…”

And likewise with political language employed by states such as Israel, a nation founded by gangsters with gangster money and built on top of a gangster ideology that justifies any criminal behavior as long as it benefits “la famiglia”. What appear to be harmless statements made by persons of noted importance such as Barak actually have a significance far deeper than what is superficially apparent to the average Joe, and even if this significance is lost on the average person merely trying to live an honest life and pay his/her bills, it most assuredly has not been lost on the spies, analysts, diplomats and others whose job is to read between the lines when threats are being made in pursuance of certain geo-political demands.

It is no secret Israel wants (demands) Iran’s destruction and wants it done by non-Jews. Israel is a nation founded on 21st century BC ideas while at the same time trying to make these ideas work in a 21st century AD world. All the war, invasion, rape, conquest, plagues, smiting and bloodshed that are the meat and potatoes of the Old Testament are as much the principles upon which the Jewish state was founded as “We hold these truths to be self evident” are the bedrock of the American nation. The hysteria characterizing Israel’s reaction to the National Intelligence Estimate released in December 2007 by the 16 most powerful intelligence agencies working for the US government that stated categorically and unequivocally that Iran had no nuclear weapons program since 2003 betrayed the irrational, bloodlust mindset driving Israel and her desire to see her ancient Persian enemies destroyed as recounted in the Old Testament story found in the Book of Esther.

Therefore, Iran MUST be attacked, no ifs, ands or buts about it. In a day and age when the Jewish state needs these periodic clashes in order to achieve an otherwise-impossible sense of cohesiveness within an organically fractured, irrational and self-devouring political creature such as Israel, a re-enactment of Persia’s (Iran’s) defeat by God’s chosen people as occurred in the book of Esther does wonders in putting to rest any discussion concerning the “propriety” of the Jewish state’s existence.

As far as a nuclear attack on an east coast American city itself, the results of such an attack–apart from the human cost–would be incalculable in terms of economics and political instability. At a time when–not just America, but indeed the entire world–is so precariously perched at the edge of an abyss that threatens economic, political and social chaos, an American city going up in a mushroom cloud would set in motion a chain reaction the results of which are not difficult to imagine. The resulting meltdown would take–not just years, but more than likely generations to recover.

And once again, just as in 9/11, Israel–through one or many of her carefully ‘chosen’ spokespersons–would then go before world media with barely contained smirks and giggles and say “Well, don’t blame us, we warned you something like this was going to happen” . In the same flavor as the 5 dancing Israeli’s seen filming the destruction of the Twin Towers or Benjamin Netanyahu’s remarks following 9/11 that the attacks on America resulting in the deaths of over 3,000 were “good” in that they would generate “immediate sympathy” for Israel, so too would the Jewish state capitalize on the event and shake her finger in the world’s face and say “tsk, tsk, tsk…should have paid better attention to the warnings we gave…” In the meantime, American leaders would be scrambling to deal with–not only the apocalyptic situation at hand, but as well the loss of public confidence in their ability to lead.

What is noteworthy about this latest threat is the fact that it is a follow-up to threats made directly to George Bush back in May when he visited the Jewish state to help celebrate Israel’s 60-year orgy of uninterrupted violence and bloodshed against the Gentiles who have suffered the unfortunate “honor” of living in such close proximity to God’s chosen people. Before the soles of his shoes had even gotten dirty after stepping on the hallowed ground of Israel he was met at the Ben Gurion airport by the “Men in Black”–meaning the Orthodox Rabbis–who then accosted him with a list of commandments and threats, all cryptic and apocalyptic in their nature, about what the leader of the free world would be facing if he was found slacking off with regards to his “duties” to the Jewish state. A partial list of their demands and threats included reminding him that “God ordained the nations of the world to strengthen the nation of Israel” while telling him to forget the idea of running away from his duty of making war against Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, and Lebanon, specifying that American troops be used to protect the “Divine rights of the nation of Israel, and remove from her any threat.” The consequences of not doing these things were clear–“destruction” and ”Certain doom” that would “endanger all life on earth” and capping off their threats with “Your fate and that of all those with you hangs in the balance of the destiny of our land…”

..and about 5 months later–BATTA-BOOM!!!-out of seemingly nowhere, the economy of the United States enters a storm not seen since 1929. Indeed, it seemed as if the rabbis had friends in “high places”–protégé’s of Moses no doubt–who had the power to make such plagues happen. As a result of the economic turmoil that resulted in loss of jobs and a housing crisis without precedent since the great depression, George Bush, his party and his legacy found themselves swirling down the political sewer like a piece of used toilet paper.

Those who doubt Israel is capable (or willing) to go to such lengths need to better acquaint themselves with the USS Liberty, a US spy ship that–with complete foreknowledge of malice–was attacked by the air and naval forces of the Jewish state for 2 hours during the latter end of the 6 Day War. Israel’s obvious intention was that the ship be sunk, Egypt be blamed (in the same way as planned with the previously-unsuccessful “Lavon Affair”) resulting in a United States of America out for Arab blood, just as occurred following 9/11. As it was, F-4 Phantom jets–loaded for bear (meaning armed with nuclear weapons) were on their way to Cairo with orders to annihilate the capitol of Soviet-allied Egypt. It was only the miracle of Liberty’s refusal to sink–despite thousands of armor-piercing rounds, a thousand rockets, hundreds of gallons of napalm and 5 torpedoes–that prevented what would most likely have been a nuclear war between the United States and (what was at that time) the Soviet Union.

Dozens of other such examples of Israeli treachery against America abound, the most recent and notorious being her foreknowledge and direct involvement with the events on 9/11. Those who would scoff at the notion that the Jewish state is capable of doing such things–including detonating a nuclear weapon within an American city–should keep in mind that (just as she has said on more occasions than can be counted) she is not like other nations. In the words of her former Defense Minister Moshe Dayan she is ”a dangerous mad dog” on one hand and yet on the other she is the “embodiment of God,” a “light among nations” and “joy of the entire earth” as her political/religious caretakers describe her. While the other nations of the earth operate under for-the-most-part rational plans for their existence, Israel does not. She is like any cult community like Jim Jones’ Guyana or David Koresh’s Waco, and in the event her little experiment begins to show signs of failure, her solution is simple–scrap the whole thing, meaning 6 billion souls on earth–so that Israel’s God “Yahweh” can start over again with a clean slate and, hopefully, “do it right” the next time and make good on His promise to make “His” chosen people rulers of the earth.

And lest some think all of this is pure speculation on the part of anti-Semites with over-active imaginations and who read more into the language of gangsters than what is actually there, let Martin Van Creveld, one of Israel’s most respected military historians speak on the matter at hand–

“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force…. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that this will happen before Israel goes under.”

[Soulmate7]

The following video is NOT for sensible people, pregnant women or people who suffer from heart diseases.
Only watch this video if you have a strong stomach!

RAW (Graphic) Scene After IDF Attack In Gaza On 01/01/ 09:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9NEQWLLic

On the other hand, if you can stomach it, please forward it to as many people as you can. By exposing the Zionist atrocities, we can make a difference.

[Stargazer1965]

The following video is NOT for sensible people, pregnant women or people who suffer from heart diseases.
Only watch this video if you have a strong stomach!

RAW (Graphic) Scene After IDF Attack In Gaza On 01/01/ 09:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9NEQWLLic

On the other hand, if you can stomach it, please forward it to as many people as you can. By exposing the Zionist atrocities, we can make a difference.
I imagine my child lying there in all that carnage......OMG

What have we done?

[mulder]

This video is shocking: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9NEQWLLic
2009 has already started being the year from hell. Isreal is attacking Gaza to subdue the people. If Isreal attacked a neighbouring country stating with "I", there would be massive unrest in Gaza. Now this unrest is impossible. I'm predicting a new war very soon in the middle east.

[burgundia]

I cannot get transferred to the link...

[Swanny]

Here's an article of Pres. Bush on the situation...
WASHINGTON – President George W. Bush on Friday branded the Hamas rocket attacks on Israel an "act of terror" and outlined his own condition for a cease-fire in Gaza, saying no peace deal would be acceptable without monitoring to halt the flow of smuggled weapons to terrorist groups.

Bush chose his weekly taped radio address to speak for the first time about one of the bloodiest Mideast clashes in decades. It began a week ago. Israeli warplanes have rained bombs on Gaza, targeting the Palestinian militant group Hamas, which has traumatized southern Israel with intensifying rocket attacks.

"The United States is leading diplomatic efforts to achieve a meaningful cease-fire that is fully respected," Bush said. "Another one-way cease-fire that leads to rocket attacks on Israel is not acceptable. And promises from Hamas will not suffice — there must be monitoring mechanisms in place to help ensure that smuggling of weapons to terrorist groups in Gaza comes to an end."

There's only one name for Bush and it begins with C :thumbdown:

[deb003]

The following video is NOT for sensible people, pregnant women or people who suffer from heart diseases.
Only watch this video if you have a strong stomach!

RAW (Graphic) Scene After IDF Attack In Gaza On 01/01/ 09:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk9NEQWLLic

On the other hand, if you can stomach it, please forward it to as many people as you can. By exposing the Zionist atrocities, we can make a difference.

Soulmate. When i click on the link, I receive this message from youtube:
" This video has been removed due to terms of use violation"

[deb003]

This a link title; Has Washington Given israel the Green Light for Ground Operation in Gaza?
It's a short article.
http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2009/01/03/has-washington-given-israel-green-light-ground-operation-gaz.html

God Help the Israeli and Palestinian innocent civilians of there is a ground assault on Gaza by the Israeli military. I think this would escalate the situation. As if it wasn't already as escalated as it gets with the death of people...I will keep sending love and today we're doing a protest for antiwar and nonviolence.
Sad to report my mom has disowned me because I care about the palestinian people. Sad Sad Sad.

[Dantheman62]

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip – Israeli warplanes, gunboats and artillery units bombarded more than 40 Hamas targets Saturday, including weapons storage facilities, training centers and leaders' homes as Israel's offensive against Gaza's Islamic militant rulers entered a second week.

There were tentative signs that the current phase of fighting may be nearing an end. Most of the airstrikes targeted empty buildings and abandoned sites, suggesting Israel may be running out of targets.

In another indication the campaign was entering a new phase, Israeli artillery units attacked Gaza for the first time, military officials said. The shelling was directed at open areas, but was seen as a possible signal that a ground invasion could be nearing.

Israeli defense officials said some 10,000 troops, including tank, artillery and special operations units, were massed on the Gaza border and prepared to invade. They said top commanders are split over whether to send in ground forces, in part because such an operation could lead to heavy casualties but also because they believe Hamas already has been dealt a heavy blow. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were classified discussions.

[Antonia]

This sacrifice in all it's heart brakand horror is still only the precurser to the hopefully averted main plan.... Remember the heart chakra of the planet is in Iran..... Why are the dark Cabal so intent on invading? If the heart chakra of the planet is obliterated...wounded and "Smited"..... it has an effect on the heart chakra'sof all the living entites on the planet..... Send a wall of protective light to that energy centre of our planet and keep it blazing, protected and safe.

[burgundia]

This sacrifice in all it's heart brakand horror is still only the precurser to the hopefully averted main plan.... Remember the heart chakra of the planet is in Iran..... Why are the dark Cabal so intent on invading? If the heart chakra of the planet is obliterated...wounded and "Smited"..... it has an effect on the heart chakra'sof all the living entites on the planet..... Send a wall of protective light to that energy centre of our planet and keep it blazing, protected and safe.

i didn't know that about Iran. I will definitely sent that protective light there. thanks for the info.

[deb003]

WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC reality in gaza.
If you can stomach the 1st 10 seconds, then you are brave.

They attacked a civilian market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StHl5SLO6v0

This is literally Hell on earth. If they put things like this on mainstream media, this would stop at this moment.

I don't know guys. If mother earth wants to shake things up and gives us 1000 earthquakes to learn our lesson, I fully understand her.

I have no worlds to describe the horror of what we're witnessing. This is a day of mourning and I will think of everyone in Gaza for a while.

The world needs a spiritual cleansing NOW!! and I don't mean that in any religious sense.

[burgundia]

This is outrageous!! And the rest of the world allows it because Israelis are doing it.

[Humble Janitor]

Israel must be stopped!

[Dantheman62]

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip – Israeli tanks and troops launched a ground offensive in the Gaza Strip Saturday night with officials saying they expected a lengthy fight with Hamas militants in the densely populated territory after eight days of punishing airstrikes failed to halt rocket attacks on Israel.

Hamas vowed that Gaza would be a "graveyard" for Israelis forces.

"This will not be easy and it will not be short," Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said soon after the ground invasion began.

The incursion was preceded by several hours of heavy artillery fire after dark, igniting flames in the night sky. Machine gun fire rattled as bright tracer rounds flashed through the darkness and the crash of hundreds of shells sent up streaks of fire.

Artillery fired illuminating rounds, sending streaks of bright light drifting down over Gaza's densely packed neighborhoods. Gunbattles could be heard, as troops crossed the border into Gaza, marching single file. They were backed by helicopter gunships and tanks.

Israeli security officials said the objective is not to reoccupy Gaza. The depth and intensity of the ground operation will depend on parallel diplomatic efforts, the officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

We have many, many targets, Israeli army spokeswoman Maj. Avital Leibovich told CNN. "To my estimation, it will be a lengthy operation."

Before the ground incursion began, heavy Israeli artillery fire hit east of Gaza City in locations were Hamas fighters were deployed. The artillery shells were apparently intended to detonate Hamas explosive devices and mines planted along the border area before troops marched in.

"Gaza will not be paved with flowers for you, it will be paved with fire and hell," Hamas warned Israeli forces. Spokesman Ismail Radwan said in a televised speech Gaza will "become a graveyard" for Israeli soldiers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_israel_palestinians

[dagon]

I wonder if this is obamas test. escalation of Israeli-palestinian conflict

[Dantheman62]

I wonder if this is obamas test. escalation of Israeli-palestinian conflict
It's a few weeks early, but could be.

[Stargazer1965]

It's a few weeks early, but could be.

Is there someone we can write...Can we organize on this??

I have a REAL bad feeling about this.....:sad:

[Humble Janitor]

Here's an article of Pres. Bush on the situation...
WASHINGTON – President George W. Bush on Friday branded the Hamas rocket attacks on Israel an "act of terror" and outlined his own condition for a cease-fire in Gaza, saying no peace deal would be acceptable without monitoring to halt the flow of smuggled weapons to terrorist groups.

Bush chose his weekly taped radio address to speak for the first time about one of the bloodiest Mideast clashes in decades. It began a week ago. Israeli warplanes have rained bombs on Gaza, targeting the Palestinian militant group Hamas, which has traumatized southern Israel with intensifying rocket attacks.

"The United States is leading diplomatic efforts to achieve a meaningful cease-fire that is fully respected," Bush said. "Another one-way cease-fire that leads to rocket attacks on Israel is not acceptable. And promises from Hamas will not suffice — there must be monitoring mechanisms in place to help ensure that smuggling of weapons to terrorist groups in Gaza comes to an end."

Bush's words are rendered useless by the fact that he will no longer be in power. Mark my words, his reign of terror ends on January 20th.

As for my post, "Israel Must Be Stopped!" post, it is not a negative post. It's something that simple must end. The oppression of people in that area is a blight upon humanity that must be corrected. Positive vibes are always welcome but I think that the world needs to see these atrocities for what they really are.

[Soulmate7]

Folks, if you want to see the news without the usual Zionist biasism, you should watch PressTV.
http://www.streamick.com/index.php?tv=presstv

[recallone]

Sadly, the initial offering from Soulmate7 on this thread was summarily passed over in favor of the 'outrage' and talk of 'anti-war' demonstrations. There was a HUGE message within that story and it's getting lost.

You can't stop anything by being 'against' it. Your energy towards that end is inadvertently feeding the energy that perpetuates it. The universe doesn't hear the words that proceed the subject of your emotion, only the thing that you're focused upon. "I hate war" = more war. "I hate the suffering" = more suffering.

Many of us, if we had superpowers, would fly right over there and put things right - faster than a speeding bullet I might add. But I think its important to recognize the programming that elicits certain responses and how that energy is used against us. I've seen a couple of articles now highlighting the death of children during this conflict, because that is going to strike a chord with just about everybody. The humanitarian programmed response to such horrible acts is one of outrage and vengeance. But pull the reins on your ego for a second and see what this is inside of you before looking outside of you.

Are you afraid of death? Hopefully, the answer is 'no' because you understand that there is no true death - only changes in form. So, if there is no true death - what is everybody getting themselves so worked up about? This is not a question to encourage an argument over how awful a human I am because I'm not ready to launch missiles from my backyard at those lunatics, but one that asks all of you (us) to detach from that which seeks to confine you. All of this grief has everything to do with attachment.

When we mourn the passing of a loved one, its not because they're truly dead but because we'll miss them. We're attached to them. We're attached to the maya (cosmic delusion) of this dimension.

I don't even care who's right and who is wrong in this whole mess. The very notion of there being someone more righteous than another furthers the lie of division. We're only being told what they want us to believe. And what they want us to believe is holding hands with what they want us to feel. What we feel is what we create. They're manipulating our creative powers without many of us even knowing it!

I'm sorry. Please forgive me. I love you.

If we can apply these emotions to ALL of it, then - and only then - will we begin to change the world around us. The people that have died are now in complete understanding of the various dimensions that we're still struggling to wrap our little 3d, programmed minds around. I don't feel bad for them. THEY don't feel bad about it. Why should I? The veil is thinning. The maya is falling apart. I don't want to subscribe to yesterday's programmed reactions that endorse the limitation, but rather expand my consciousness to really take in the bigger picture and therefore dismiss the limitations that have sought to confine us for far too long.

Everything out there, is everything right here. In you. In me. Time for the spiritual warriors to step up and embrace this truth. One man in a hospital cured a bunch of people labeled criminally insane. What kind of impact do you think a couple hundred will have upon the population? And from there, just like in the hospital story - more will join the ranks. Including the ones who were previously pulling the triggers.

We win, light beings. Know this. Be this.
Proud to be among you.
recallone

[SamWhiteHopi]

I'm sorry. Please forgive me. I love you.


Everything out there, is everything right here. In you. In me. Time for the spiritual warriors to step up and embrace this truth. One man in a hospital cured a bunch of people labeled criminally insane. What kind of impact do you think a couple hundred will have upon the population? And from there, just like in the hospital story - more will join the ranks. Including the ones who were previously pulling the triggers.

We win, light beings. Know this. Be this.
Proud to be among you.
recallone


Nothing to apologize about, Recallone [Reply #70], at least not here. I agree with every thing you say here. It is essential that we all keep our balance and focus. Standing back detaching ourselves from the slaughter of children, or anyone for that matter, is not callus or unloving. We here know all too well what is going on behind the scenes, the agenda of the elite, where the general public doesn’t know. We don’t know how far the plans of the elite are going to be allowed to go. Personally I feel this is only the beginning.

Unfortunately, mankind needs to be brought to the brink of total destruction before arrogance can be over come.[And even then humans have a short memory and are at each others necks shortly after wars:wall:. Goodness, look how few years there were between WWI & WWII and it looks like we just might be on the brink of WWIII. The elite want their human sacrifices and humans follow blindly to the alters with literal blood or their hate and anger.] And then there are those who will never take their blinkers off. The creators of humankind, and any other beings who have shown a commitment to helping mankind, can not come to the aid of humankind just yet because many humans are so arrogant they would say it was interference and not intervention by request. We all here can see the need for intervention and have had our arms open to it for years, but that is not enough. It is like mankind suffering a fever that must be allowed to run its course to build its own immune system or there will be another more deadly outbreak.

IMO, protests, voting and signing petitions and so forth is all part of the system of controlling mankind. Any battles won have been allowed to keep the masses silent and believing the Politicians listen. It is all just a ploy to brain wash people into thinking they control the decisions of the politicians. We here know better. I am not being negative but what is happening is supposed to happen. Presidents don’t bring change for the better. They come in various wrappers with filling that is the same, just stronger or weaker depending on the season and what is convenient to please or displease the sheeple at the time. Hundreds of years ago the Hopi Indians warned the invaders of America [Turtle Island], and later other nations, that if they didn’t stop their destruction of Mother Earth the price would be a heavy one to pay. The invaders chose the second path that would lead mankind to the brink of destruction. The Hopi were promised that even if there were a few peaceful ones who treated our Mother correctly they would not allow humankind to be annihilated, as this planets survival affects all life, not just humans.

Politicians will not listen to the people, for they are hand picked puppets. Therefore it must be remembered that our creators and our celestial brothers and sisters can read the thoughts of each and every human. They know when and how to intervene. Our place is to retain our love and not to fall asleep or become drowsy, or get caught up in the mentality of humankind that is sadly still mostly sleep :sleep_1:walking [And squawking: Why? why? Why?] A sleep walk of its own choosing. The celestials can see the details, where unfortunately we can’t. Remaining focused in love might not seem a lot in contributing to the overall future of humankind, but it is the most powerful force in existence. The question must be answered. How many of humankind can remain in love no matter what we go through in order to finish this game where many have said enough is enough?

:wub2: To all.

[Steve_A]

Hi Everybody,

I'm not really a political person, but why is Michael Bloomberg in Israel? Isn't he the Mayor of New York?

What does the Mayor of New York have to do with a conflict in Gaza?

Best regards,

Steve

[K626]

Hi Everybody,

I'm not really a political person, but why is Michael Bloomberg in Israel? Isn't he the Mayor of New York?

What does the Mayor of New York have to do with a conflict in Gaza?

Best regards,

Steve

These wars are run by the N.Y. Jews, but I guess that would need a whole new thread.

[Steve_G]

Original story: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=80443&sectionid=351020202


Depleted uranium found in Gaza victims
Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:16:21 GMT
Medics tell Press TV they have found traces of depleted uranium in some Gazan residents wounded in Israel's ground offensive into the strip.

Norwegian medics told Press TV correspondent Akram al-Sattari that some of the victims who have been wounded since Israel began its attacks on the Gaza Strip on December 27 have traces of depleted uranium in their bodies.

The report comes after Israeli tanks and troops swept across the border into Gaza on Saturday night, opening a ground operation after eight days of intensive attacks by Israeli air and naval forces on the impoverished region.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak warned on Sunday that the wide-ranging ground offensive in the Gaza Strip would be "full of surprises."

A ground offensive in the densely-populated Gaza is expected to drastically increase the death toll of the civilian population.

The latest assaults bring the number of Palestinians killed to over 488 with 2790 others wounded. The UN says that about 25 percent of the casualties were civilian deaths - including at least 34 children.

According to Israeli army officials, at least 30 of its soldiers have been wounded since the start of the ground campaign.

Amid global condemnation of the ongoing violence in the region, the UN Security Council failed to agree on a united approach to resolve the crisis.

" Once again, the world is watching in dismay the dysfunctionality of the Security Council," UN General Assembly chief Miguel d'Escoto said Sunday.

According to diplomatic sources, the US blocked a Security Council resolution, with US Deputy Ambassador Alejandro Wolff arguing that an official statement that criticizes both Israel and Hamas would not be helpful.

The White House has so far declined to comment on whether an Israeli ground incursion into Gaza is a justified measure.

AA/DT/CS/MD

[K626]

On some footage on the BBC site it looks like they are using air burst phosphorous bombs as well. Totally indiscreiminate weapon that floods an area with skin burning chemicals.

[burgundia]

These wars are run by the N.Y. Jews, but I guess that would need a whole new thread.

It is said that so was WWII

[Steve_G]

Thanks K626, I wondered what they were. Yet more proof that this is just another assault on the Palestinian general population and not targetted against Hamas.

However recallone is right. I heard somewhere (I can't remember where) that Mother Theresa refused to join anti-war marches but would go on peace marches. She understood what recallone is talking about.

[Dantheman62]

Don't throw rocks at me, but I want to point out that it was Hamas that had been sending rockets into Israel every single day to start with. How long would Texas put up with Mexico sending rockets in everyday?, or how long would Ireland put up with Scotland sending in rockets everyday?, or the UK getting rockets everyday sent down on them? Not very long!
Hamas is backed by Syria and Iran and in Gaza hiding amongst the civilians making them hard to get at.
So what was the original reason that Hamas had to send rockets into Israel? Were they being deprived of goods or property?, were they being starved out by Israel?
Just wondering, and of course I'm not picking sides at all because I don't follow the situation enough to even know what's really going on there.

[deb003]

I understand recallone also.

Altough, I don't know if you are a parent, but when you witness children, the ones that are left alive, having their limbs butchered and they are left to suffer in physical and emotional pain, traumatized, only a soulless robot would feel nothing.

We are also physical human beings, we have emotions. anger can be healthty emotion if it's expressed in a healthy manner.

ovbiously, seeking revenge is only pointless and not going to heal anything.

we have freedom of speech and expression and all of us do it in a different way. That's what freedom is all about.

I thought I read that when Jesus got angry one day with tax collectors outside of a church, he started to overthrow the tables???

He was outraged at the injustice. He didn't go an kill anyone but he was human and couldn't tolerate this.

Everyone deals with thins in a different way, and it is their right to do so.

[Steve_G]

Don't throw rocks at me, but I want to point out that it was Hamas that had been sending rockets into Israel every single day to start with. How long would Texas put up with Mexico sending rockets in everyday?, or how long would Ireland put up with Scotland sending in rockets everyday?, or the UK getting rockets everyday sent down on them? Not very long!
Hamas is backed by Syria and Iran and in Gaza hiding amongst the civilians making them hard to get at.
So what was the original reason that Hamas had to send rockets into Israel? Were they being deprived of goods or property?, were they being starved out by Israel?
Just wondering, and of course I'm not picking sides at all because I don't follow the situation enough to even know what's really going on there.

It is true that Hamas has been firing rockets into Israel- I think 3 Isreali's have died in those attacks. It's also true that it was the Palestinians who refused to sign a new cease-fire agreement when the old one expired. What isn't being reported in the western media is why.

As I understand it (and I'm open to correction here) the Israeli's had Gaza under seige, pretty much in the traditional sense of the word. Nothing gets in or out. That includes food, medical supplies and all the other things that people need to live. They allowed a trickle of the aid that's been sent to get in but that's all, keeping the Palestinians on the brink of starvation and prone to disease, and also denying them the medicines they needed to fight the effects of the deprivation.

So Hamas had a choice- either watch their people die slowly through starvation and illness or fight back militarily in their severely limited way and invite the Israeli response we see now. In a nutshell, die slow or die fast.

It isn't the first time the media have manipulated our perception of events surrounding the Gaza situation. I remember not long ago when Hamas launched "unprovoked" rocket attacks on Isreal, with very similar consequences. The media were all over it of course, condemning the Palestinian "Terrorists" for their assault.

What they neglected to mention was that in the preceding couple of weeks Israeli warships had been shelling Palestinian beaches full of civilians, killing some and injuring many more. Somehow that little detail never made it into the western media either.

Same ****, different day. The Isrealis provoke the attacks through what amount to war crimes, the western media and nations turn a blind eye and then condemn the Palestinians when they are forced to respond.

As always, the truth is probably somewhere in between, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that it's a lot closer to what isn't being reported than what is.

[Dantheman62]

Thanks Steve, sounds like a no-win situation for the Palestinians.

[Dantheman62]

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip – Israeli ground troops and tanks cut swaths through the Gaza Strip early Sunday, cutting the coastal territory into two and surrounding its biggest city as the new phase of a devastating offensive against Hamas militants gained momentum.

The military used overwhelming firepower from tanks, artillery and aircraft to protect the advancing soldiers, and Gaza officials said at least 31 civilians were killed in the onslaught. The military said troops killed several dozen militants, but Gaza officials could confirm only four dead — in part because rescue teams could not reach the battle zones. One Israeli soldier was killed in the offensive, which so far has been widely popular with the Israeli public

Thousands of soldiers in three brigade-size formations pushed into Gaza after nightfall Saturday, beginning a long-awaited ground offensive against the area's Hamas rulers after a week of intense aerial bombardment. Black smoke billowed over Gaza City at first light as bursts of machine gun fire rang out.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090104/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

[K626]

It is true that Hamas has been firing rockets into Israel- I think 3 Isreali's have died in those attacks. It's also true that it was the Palestinians who refused to sign a new cease-fire agreement when the old one expired. What isn't being reported in the western media is why.

As I understand it (and I'm open to correction here) the Israeli's had Gaza under seige, pretty much in the traditional sense of the word. Nothing gets in or out. That includes food, medical supplies and all the other things that people need to live. They allowed a trickle of the aid that's been sent to get in but that's all, keeping the Palestinians on the brink of starvation and prone to disease, and also denying them the medicines they needed to fight the effects of the deprivation.

So Hamas had a choice- either watch their people die slowly through starvation and illness or fight back militarily in their severely limited way and invite the Israeli response we see now. In a nutshell, die slow or die fast.

It isn't the first time the media have manipulated our perception of events surrounding the Gaza situation. I remember not long ago when Hamas launched "unprovoked" rocket attacks on Isreal, with very similar consequences. The media were all over it of course, condemning the Palestinian "Terrorists" for their assault.

What they neglected to mention was that in the preceding couple of weeks Israeli warships had been shelling Palestinian beaches full of civilians, killing some and injuring many more. Somehow that little detail never made it into the western media either.

Same ****, different day. The Isrealis provoke the attacks through what amount to war crimes, the western media and nations turn a blind eye and then condemn the Palestinians when they are forced to respond.

As always, the truth is probably somewhere in between, but I'd bet dollars to donuts that it's a lot closer to what isn't being reported than what is.

Spot on.

[Soulmate7]

Don't throw rocks at me, but I want to point out that it was Hamas that had been sending rockets into Israel every single day to start with. How long would Texas put up with Mexico sending rockets in everyday?
As far as I know Texas didn't steal the land from Mexico, nor is Texas Holocausting Mexico for the past 60 years.
Hamas is a consequence of Zionism. There would be no Hamas if there was no Zionism. They have the right to defend themselves.

[deb003]

My intention is not to fear-mogering but zi came across this today and it was just so accurate of ACT 2
I don't even remember how i found this website but it talks about predictions based on history nor prophesy:
http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-3/ww3.htm

Again, this isn't to put this out for panic, i'm just baffled at the accuracy here.

"World War 3 Timeline
These are, I believe, the stages of the planned Third World War:

Prelude - The events leading up to the start of World War Three, including Sept 11, 2001.
Act 1 - The Middle East. Widespread conflict to bring the entire region into the flames of war, possibly triggered by Iran or militants in Pakistan using North Korean supplied nuclear arms. The first Scene in this Act is the US Invasion of Iraq on March 20, 2003.
Act 2 - Israel at War -- Against her Arab neighbors, possibly Palestine. A Palestinian State will be established, so that all Israelis will be fully separated from Palestinians (listen out for mention of a 7-year treaty to be confirmed by a World Leader - probably Bush), only for Israel to viciously attack Palestine shortly thereafter.
Act 3 - Far East -- "Hair-raising nuclear confrontation that threatens mankind's existence" - Peter Lemesurier, author of The Armageddon Script, p. 223, written in 1981. Includes China invading Taiwan and a nuclear eruption on the Korean Peninsula.
Act 4 - Erosion of Confidence in 'The System' so severe citizens will be panicked into giving up liberties and Constitutional form of government. The plan calls for the dissolution of the US Constitution, triggered by a significant enough 'terrorist' attack. The ultimate intent is to introduce a global government and one-world religion.
Act 5 - The collapse of the US, and other Western economies and morals.

Act 6 - Significant population reduction using natural and man-made disasters.
Curtain. Who can tell how this war will end? "

[recallone]

Deb003 – I am a parent.
And my response to a posed threat against my children would be one of unmatched ferocity and finality. But that situation is not my NOW and I don't have any intention of making it my NOW by feeling the emotions that will make it so. And I don't consider myself an emotionless robot either, but rather someone who understands my power and how the PTB are trying to manipulate it from me to their ends.

You’re shown images of children suffering because you’re expected to react the way most people would react…by personalizing it. You immediately start entertaining the notion of How would I feel if that happened to one of my kids? But why would you do that to yourself? I'm not asking this question from a place of superiority (because I've only just recently managed to stop doing the same thing myself) but to get you to think about what you're creating as a result of embracing those images and emotions as your own.

Your vibration is very intentionally being manipulated to embrace a base emotion. A population riddled with fear is easily controlled. If you're existing in fear, your DNA is getting a meager helping of energy and your effectiveness is limited. But if your dominant vibration is one of love and acceptance, the energy that you're feeding your DNA is tremendous and your creative abilities are amplified like nobody's business. When I say your creative abilities, I'm talking about your power to manifest a different reality than the one that's being manipulated out of the masses at present.

Part of the programming is in the fallacy that any good person would feel horrible if presented with pictures or stories of atrocities befalling innocent beings. And surely if someone doesn’t feel horrible, they must be bad. (Again with the division of right and wrong, btw) But this notion dictates that the way we feel is dependent upon what happens outside of us, thereby victimizing us. I choose how I feel. You choose how you feel. That vibration shouldn’t be dependent upon the images and information of anyone or anything outside of you. There’s nothing happening to your children right now, and right now is all there is.

Your ego wants to entertain itself with what happened yesterday and what could happen tomorrow, but it will never embrace the NOW. Don’t compromise your now because of what your ego has been programmed to attend to. Take back your control and demand that your ego tend to only the tasks YOU assign to it. Not the other way around.

In this finger-pointing game of who is to blame and who is morally just in their actions, I think it’s important to acknowledge the relationship that the U.S. has always had with Israel. There are a number of key players within the (U.S.)chain of command that are Jewish and not shy about announcing their loyalty. What’s more, we all knew some time back that Israel was lining up for an offensive against Iran and that the US was ready to serve as a ‘refueling’ point to support their efforts. Keep this in mind when you also recall the whole situation that took place in South Ossetia. There’s a big chess game going on with the worlds’ superpowers, and you’re not being told anything that even remotely resembles the truth about it. There are alliances and agreements in place that only a select few are privy to.

Who is right? Who is wrong? Who is evil? Who is morally justified in taking the life of another?

These are the questions they want you to be concerned with, because every one of your answers perpetuates the division and attachment (to this dimension) that their plans rely so heavily upon.
Think bigger. Much bigger.

YOU ARE A GOD. When you dismiss the idea that you're just one person, just a single voice, just anything - then you're taking your power back and truly becoming the threat that the PTB are scared ****less you'll become...as you remember who you are. That's why the programming and lies are so pervasive. To keep you asleep. Keep you manageable. Docile. Controllable. Isn't it time we started deciding what we're going to feel and what we're going to create rather than being manipulated into feeling and creating what THEY want us to?

I wish you all peace.
recallone

[Humble Janitor]

I do not support revenge killing or anything of that ilk. I do hope that this conflict can somehow be resolved.

[Delphi]

I have just read Dalry's story on Celia Fenn's website. it's by an Australian grandmother who was in Jeruslem in 2002 when she witnessed a suicide bombing. It supports Recallone's post about oneness and forgiveness. It mived me close to tears.
go to
http://starchildglobal.com/
and scroll down to Dalry's story.
love to all

[burgundia]

To my surprise I do not feel hate or rage or even anger. When I hear about or see such events I feel sadness. I don't hate Israeli soldiers or Israeli people as it is not their fault. i just want the world to live in peace and i pray that more people all over the world wake up.

[beanny]

myself, now, in israel to take care of health and school issues with 2of my5 children....my son struggling with 11years of heroin addiction,...soon to enter rehab for 2nd time... we have to, in couple of hours, travel through vulnerable areas of rocket firing, in order to return home to the south... and have little time to respond as i wish to...neither to read up on what has been already written..

but i urge all of you to remember...that it is NOT the average israelis, just as it is NOT the average americans ...that make these crazy wars and decisions....

are you forgetting that it is our children
18-20 year old childrennnnnn.....

that are sent in to fight these battles.... not through any choice of their own, neither under true knowledge of the ugly games from the top...(my twin with 6 boys entering and leaving army,my brothers oldestnow in army, nephews, neices)
just as for every citizen or visitor in israel...
the
ones responsible CANNOT be called israelis...but INHUMAN..... and they do NOT live AMONG us
i remind you...for an average israeli of EVERY age....
JUST TO GO FROM A-B ..or sit in a cafe, or go to school or work...on an everyday level for
EVERY SINGLE DAY of their lives...
IS...... RUSSIAN ROULLETTE..

for there is barely a family in israel whom has not an uncle, father , brother , daughter, cousin, neighbour or friend/aquatance...etc..whom was blown to smitherins/heavily injured on a bus or sitting eating pizza in a cafe..or away on a school trip, not forgetting that bus of kindergarden children that were blown to shreds....

did they ask to be involved in the politicAL CONFLICT?
karma aside.

i tell you...israelis are a mix of some real beautifull souls and some quite corrupt and ugly charachters too , as anywhere in the world...but here we too are being intensly poisoned through our water systems and food supplies... brainwashed and twisted...indoctrinated, blinded and brainwashed...etc...way worse than in usa and england from what i witness... the majority of the people kept incredibly poor and suppressed..fooled and tricked...
its ugly, real ugly
(i know of a family that lived 8children, both parents, and 2grandparents..in a single room, about 15 by 15 feet...that was their entire house, outside toilet and kitchen...could any of you live that way?)

average/minimum wage here, 21 shekel/ 3pounds sterling...ANd for extreme heavy labor in extreme heat....would buy us ..
a litre of milk and loaf of brown bread.
OR 750ml of shampoo
many familys here too, with 10-15 children..kept suppressed and struggling.
and yet we still HAVE to send our children to the slaughter in the army...
in the name of!!!!!!!!

i urge you to stop blaming ISRAELIS and remember who pulls the strings.
they, at the top, certainly are NOT the ones in the front lines...our children ARE

I tell you...read the softness in the face of the soldier facing the rifle to the child ,posted on the first page... he is in no way about to pull that trigger.
you should come to israel and see for yourselves the softness of the majority of these poor guys and girls forced into these battles.. it is not like in usa where many are in army for love of agggression or power..where they are in army by choice..

saying all this, i feel great sadness for those palestinians affected...but they are not alone in suffering....and do you know, by the way of their HIDDEN UNDERGROUND cities for the palestinians..i.e in lebanon...filled with hospitals schools luxury living...?

my fathers cousin filmed evidence and braught it to varioouse news bases, bbc cnn and so on...none would agree to show this footage.

the palestinians are kept as pawns too in this game, but they are lied to too as all of us....

i must go... love and warmth and tears..............

[Steve_G]

Beanny, thank you for posting; I've been hoping that you would.

Please don't misunderstand, when I refer to "the Israelis" or any other national or religious group I do NOT refer to the general population. I think (I hope!) that the vast majority of people on this forum all understand that its not about everyday people but about their governments, just as it is everywhere else. In reality the govts are only doing as they are told anyway- all we are seeing in Gaza is another piece being moved on the global chessboard by one faction of TPTB, horrific though it is.

We all need to remember its the general population, people like us, that are suffering and dying on both sides of this and every other conflict in the world, and NOT the elite and their pawns in government and the media.

Beanny, thank you for your courage in coming forward and sharing with us in the way you have. Be safe, and love and light to you and everyone else caught up in the ongoing violence.

[beanny]

sunrunner..youve moved me to tears....deep emotion...
Godbless you.....

and to all who suffer

[burgundia]

Beanny I hope you realize that we do not hate people of Israel. writing the word"Israel" we mean The government. We also know who is behind all that. I hope one day all people realize that we are all human family and we'll all live in peace.

[deb003]

This a poem/song about Gaza/Freedom in New York City.

'Give them chalks instead of rocks".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a22CNVrrT-w

[Dantheman62]

GAZA CITY, Gaza – An Israeli bombardment struck outside a U.N. school where hundreds of Palestinians had sought refuge on Tuesday, the U.N. and Palestinian medics said, killing at least 30 people — many of them children whose parents wailed in grief at a hospital filled with dead and wounded.

An Israeli official said its soldiers came under fire from militants hiding in the school and that the building stored Palestinian munitions.

Despite international criticism over civilian deaths and calls for a cease-fire, Israeli soldiers edged closer to two major Gaza towns. A total of 58 Palestinians were killed Tuesday — with just two confirmed as militants, health officials in Gaza said.

The explosions marked the second time in hours a U.N. school came under attack. It was the deadliest assault since Israel sent ground forces into Gaza last weekend as part of a larger offensive against the ruling Hamas militant group that has killed nearly 600 Palestinians

[Steve_G]

This was posted by Avid in a seperate thread. It is well worth reading.

http://www.rense.com/general84/isz.htm

Well found Avid.

[Soulmate7]

One of the videos that Israel don't want the world to see (not graphic):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiD-gx173wc

[AussieG]

Back in the 1930 the best of my knowledge the central banks stop credit sending the world into depression and funded Hitler Resulting in WWll. It concerns me that history is repeating its self. This time the middle east is the catalyst that has been deliberately fermented for many years.

I would like to come up with an answer that would see the Ants say no more to the grass hoppers. But i feel that the world as a whole has been so institutionalized and polarized that we can not see through the invisible walls of our imprisonment. So I'll leave the question open

How do we stop the Grass Hoppers?

[iainl140285]

Back in the 1930 the best of my knowledge the central banks stop credit sending the world into depression and funded Hitler Resulting in WWll. It concerns me that history is repeating its self. This time the middle east is the catalyst that has been deliberately fermented for many years.

I would like to come up with an answer that would see the Ants say no more to the grass hoppers. But i feel that the world as a whole has been so institutionalized and polarized that we can not see through the invisible walls of our imprisonment. So I'll leave the question open

How do we stop the Grass Hoppers?


What do the ants have at their disposal ... numbers?
Problem is, the ant has been taught that he is no match for a grasshopper. It just takes a few brave ants to make a stand, the rest will follow suit ...


Peace
Respect
Iain

[AussieG]

Bravo! Are we talking revolution or evolution.

[Jack]

This conflict is nothing more then a systematic extermination of the Palestinian people.

http://www.justicefirst.info/images/landloss_crop.jpg
Loss of Palestinian land to Israel, 1948 - 2000

If millions of people are displaced and forced to fight for the bare neccesities of course they are going to defend the little cornor they have left.

Palestine sending rockets into Israel was justified (by todays standards :winksmiley02:) Israel counter attacking with a full blown arial attack and then a ground assault is genocide.

All it takes is one glance at the statistics with roughly 90% of Palestinans dead being innocent civilians to know that this is genocide.

[iainl140285]

Bravo! Are we talking revolution or evolution.

Our evolution has been surpressed. Hopefully we can have both.


Peace
Respect
Iain