American Airlines plane crashes into Hudson River

[Steve_A]

Hi Everybody,

An American Airlines plane has just crashed into the Hudson river in New York.

The reports are sketchy, but it appears to be sinking.

More info later....

Best regards,

Steve

[Kathleen]

Here's a link:

Plane lands upright in water near USS Intrepid (http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/us.airways.crash.2.909535.html)


685

[Dantheman62]

Emergency officials are responding to a downed plane in the Hudson River in New York City, according to the city fire and police departments. The FAA confirmed US Airways Flight 1549, an Airbus A320 headed from New York's LaGuardia Airport to Charlotte, North Carolina, was down in the river following a failed takeoff. The U.S. Coast Guard said units were also responding, and a ferry on site was dropping life jackets into the water

[Dantheman62]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/US/01/15/new.york.plane.crash/t1home.1558.plane.news12.jpg (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/15/new.york.plane.crash/index.html)

[Dantheman62]

US Airways jet crashes in river (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28678669/)


http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/g-cvr-090115-plane-tighter-1p.grid-6x3.jpg (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28678669/)

A US Airways jet with about 150 people on board was taking off from La Guardia airport en route to Charlotte, N.C., when it crashed into the Hudson River.

[Dantheman62]

I read a report that said it was a collision with a flock of birds, cutting out both engines.

[Egg]

I read a report that said it was a collision with a flock of birds, cutting out both engines.


Every pilots nightmare. Both engines tanking at low levels on climb out. Hope every one was ok.

[giovonni]

Great story thread post!! :trumpet:
A true miracle human interest story> amongst the daily dose of garbage heap news> fed too us all> by the world news media. :toot:made my day :cheers: too the pilot and all involved!

[piers2210]

check out www.fourwinds10.com there's an interesting alternative view on the "crash" there....not quite a flock of birds that hit the plane....hurry cos i don't think the article will stay there for long...its a "hard to believe" conspiracy theory...make up your own minds!

fantastic that all survived, what a hero that pilot is.

[Myplanet2]

I'm waiting to see if there is any confirmation on the tid bit I saw on The Sorcha Faal site, that there were Bank of America brass on that flight.

If it's true, somebody will dig it up.

[Luminari]

Russian Military Intelligence reports circulating in the Kremlin today
state that an attempt to shoot down an American passenger plane over New
York City carrying some of the top officials from the United States
largest bank, largest financial services company in the World, Bank of
America, failed when the pilot quickly reacted to his crippled and
burning aircraft by landing it in the Hudson river extinguishing the
spreading flames and saving the lives of all aboard.

Quoting some of the direct statements from passengers on the attacked
aircraft (including Jeff Kolodjay who stated “I heard a loud explosion
from the left side of the plane [and] the smell of gas was strong.”, and
Dave Sanderson who also stated “I heard an explosion and saw some flames
coming from the left wing.”) the FSB additions to these reports state
that ‘without a doubt’ the missile used to attack this US aircraft was a
Russian made Igla-S man-portable air-defense system manufactured at the
Degtyarev factory in the city of Kovrov due to its ‘unique frequency
signature’ recorded by [listening devices] located at Russia’s UN
Mission offices in New York City and orbiting satellites.

It has long been known by Russian Intelligence Analysts that the
American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has been in possession of 50
Igla-S missiles stolen from Russia by the British MI6 terrorist spy ring
run by their agent Hemant Lakhani, and who in 2003, while being pursued
by FSB commandos was ‘rescued’ by CIA forces and brought to the United
States where he remains today.

It should be noted that the United States has stated that Hemant Lakhani
was ‘convicted’ by their Federal Court and sentenced to 47 years in
prison for his arming of terrorists with stolen Russian weapons, but to
this date, FSB requests to have this verified, and to actually see and
interrogate Lakhani, have been denied by US Intelligence Officials.
Likewise, repeated Russian requests to have the stolen Igla-S missiles
returned have been denied as the Americans have stated that they are
still being used as ‘evidence’.

To the reason behind this attack upon some of the most powerful bankers
in the United States, these reports continue, was to further the
collapse of the American economy by ‘assassinating by plane crash’ Bank of Americas top officials who were returning to their home base in North
Carolina after negotiating a $138 Billion US government bailout, and
which would ‘totally destroyed’ the stock value of Americas largest bank
plunging the US into further financial chaos.

As to why these most powerful of American bankers would even be allowed
to fly on aircraft normally used by ordinary people, these reports
continue, the US Congress had previously pressured all of their Nations
top industrial and banking officials to stop using their private airline
fleets while at the same time accepting from the American taxpayers
billions of dollars in bailout funds.

FSB opinions on this new American policy, however, point out that to
refuse such high officials the protections and security offered by their
own private airline fleets is ‘insanity’ as it not only exposes these
officials to assassination but poses the ‘greatest danger possible’ to
all other ordinary people surrounding them when attacks such as this
occur.

Not being understood by the American people about the Bank of America,
is that unlike its failed, and collapsed, counterparts on Wall Street,
it has not only survived the initial onslaught against the United States
financial system, but has actually been expanding by picking up some of
the most lucrative parts of what has been left from the destroyed New
York banks it had previously outwitted.

However, Russian Financial Analysts state in these reports that as Bank
of America has now become the ‘final lynchpin’ needed to be destroyed in
order to totally, and finally, collapse the United States economy, those
‘forces’ seeking to destroy America must ‘bring it down’.

This may harder, though, than its ‘adversaries’ have planned for,
continue these reports, as the present day Bank of America is comprised
of the two most powerful banking forces of the Vatican these past nearly
150 years with one part being the Bank of Italy, founded in San
Francisco by Amadeo Giannini in 1904, and the other part being the
Southern United States banking giant NationsBank located in Charlotte,
North Carolina, which merged to become what today is Bank of America.

Of critical importance to note about this banking giant are its strong
ties to the defeated Confederate States of America during the American
Civil War of the 19th century over the United States plan to turn over
their economy to a central banking economic system advocated by the
European Rothschild banking empire and their Northern US industrial
allies, but which was, likewise, vehemently opposed by the Southern US
States led by their elite class of Moravian settlers from the Wachau
area of Germany and backed by the Vatican.

Though the Northern United States Forces were victorious in this civil
war, and by 1913 had turned over their entire economy of their Nation to
the privately run European banking empire of the Rothschild’s, renamed
The Federal Reserve Bank, the massive gold reserves of the Confederate
States were never recovered by the Northern bankers, or their European
banking allies, and was long rumored to have fueled the rise of the
powerful Charlotte, North Carolina banks which emerged after the war and
established in their State the World’s largest textile giant, Burlington
Industries, and the giant International tobacco giants located in
Winston-Salem, both of which have earned since the 1860’s over $37
Trillion to continue their ‘war’ against what they believe to have been
the theft of their ‘true’ American Nation.

Since the 1960’s, and virtually unknown to the American people, this
‘civil war’ has erupted once again with the first blow being struck
against the Southern States allied with the Vatican when the Catholic
American President, John F. Kennedy, was gunned down immediately after
his moves to destroy the Federal Reserve Bank and restore to the
American Nation their own money supply.

Since President Kennedy’s assassination in 1963, the Northern States and
their European Banking allies attacks upon the Southern States has been
unrestrained, and relentless, with the targeting of both the South’s
vast textile and tobacco ‘money making machines’, which the former was
moved by the European bankers from the American South to Asia costing
over 15 million American jobs, and the latter being ruthlessly targeted
as being the ‘main cause’ of the cancers and heart disease inflicted
upon the American people by the insidious poisoning of their water by
fluorides and their foods by pesticides.

It goes without our saying that the American people of today have become
so completely indoctrinated into the false beliefs and history of their
own Nation that these words of ours could not possibly be believed by
them. However, and what they should know, these words are the truest
many of them will ever read about what is happening to them today.

And, to a most constructive lesson, and at the very least, these people
should know the words contained in the letter written on December 3,
1863 by Pope Pius IX in reply to the letter he received from the
President of the Confederate States of America, Jefferson Davis, as
their words reverberate even to this very day:

“ILLUSTRIOUS AND HONORABLE PRESIDENT,

We have just received with all suitable welcome the persons sent by you
to place in our hands your letter, dated 23d of September last.

Not slight was the pleasure we experienced when we learned, from those
persons and the letter, with what feelings of joy and gratitude you were
animated, illustrious and honorable President, as soon as you were
informed of our letters to our venerable brother John, Archbishop of New
York, and John, Archbishop of New Orleans, dated the 18th of October of
last year, and in which we have with all our strength excited and
exhorted those venerable brothers that, in their episcopal piety and
solicitude, they should endeavor, with the most ardent zeal, and in our
name, to bring about the end of the fatal civil war which has broken out
in those countries, in order that the American people may obtain peace
and concord, and dwell charitably together.

It is particularly agreeable to us to see that you, illustrious and
honorable President, and your people, are animated with the same desires
of peace and tranquility which we have in our letters inculcated upon
our venerable brothers.

May it please God at the same time to make the other peoples of America
and their rulers, reflecting seriously how terrible is civil war, and
what calamities it engenders, listen to the inspirations of a calmer
spirit, and adopt resolutely the part of peace.

As for us, we shall not cease to offer up the most fervent prayers to
God Almighty, that He may pour out upon all the people of America the
spirit of peace and charity, and that He will stop the great evils which
afflict them. We, at the same time, beseech the God of pity to shed
abroad upon you the light of His grace, and attach you to us by a
perfect friendship.”

So in ending this report, suffice it to say that the greatest illusion
these American continue to live under is that this centuries old war
between the Vatican and the European banking empires of the Rothschild’s
has ended… when, in fact, it is entering its most tragic phase….its
ending, and one that can most certainly take our entire World with it.

But, to a people who really believe that planes can take down massive
skyscrapers, and birds can bring down massive planes (and both unique
events for the United States that have never happened in history
anywhere else before) one should not hold out much hope for any of these
people acting to protect themselves from what everyone else in the World
knows what’s about to hit them.


Source: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1195.htm

[IndigoChild1986]

Well.. here’s what I got so far….

HUD son … it turns out that HUD is equivalent to JEW!

From the Hebrew word Y-hud-ah or as we say it JUDAH!!

So HUD son is SON OF THE JEWS *or* JEWISH!

Or more specifically all of the HUDSON references in the news lately could be pointing to - THE TRIBE OF JUDAH!

From Yhudah we get all the forms - Judah Judaea Jew - Jewish!

Also the symbol for AIR is the upward pointing triangle (crossed ) as air rises. (It is also the symbol for MANY other things that I will be talking about soon)

The symbol for water is the downward pointing triangle as water flows down….

So when the AIR bus plane dropped out of the sky and landed (merged - slammed) into the WATER …

symbolically you had the merging of those two symbols…. and then you come up with this….

So Israel was even encoded into the message as well as (if I had to guess and pick between the two choices of HUD son meanings …
JEWish or TRIBE of JUDAH - I would go with the later)

so if I am decoding this correctly I take it to possibly mean…

Well… hold on, before that… there’s more….

At first we were told it was a ‘FLOCK OF BIRDS’ that took down the plane.

From an alchemical perspective birds are depicted as mediators or messengers between the heavenly realm and the earthly world.

and… flight of birds depict the human soul undergoing development.

Later, we read that it was a ‘DOUBLE BIRD STRIKE’ that took the plane down.

I checked to see if that is possibly military code…. but sticking with the alchemy theme that seems to be running throughout this event…

The Double Headed Eagle is said to originate in the ancient Sumarian city of Lagash and to have represented the two gods
Enlil and Ningersu.

Ningersu was a storm god and Enlil was a war god of the sky… so symbolically a “DOUBLE BIRD STRIKE” could be saying that …

SKY/STORM (weather) WAR technology was used to bring down this plane!

So what was the message that the BIRDS symbolically delivered from the heavens to the earth?

If I had to foster a guess I would have to add in the last few of the ‘clues’ that were encoded into the event…. the fact that it was a ‘U.S. AIRWAYS’ plane.

We were also told that the plane almost hit the ‘GEORGE WASHINGTON’ bridge.

So those two coded clues evoke for us thoughts of …

THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES…

Therefore… it would be my guess that the analysis of this event is that it is a message to us that OBAMA is one of two things….

Either he is a HUD son = of the Tribe of JUDAH
OR he is of the other group pointed to when you mix the symbols of the event and get the star of David …. which could be pointing to either The ten tribes of ISRAEL or the ZIONIST fakes who have usurped the symbol and the country of Israel for their own purposes…..

OBAMA must serve one faction or the other.

No matter which side he is on - I feel that this entire event is a coded message to those with eyes to see that one side is challenging the Obama Presidency and plans to do something… very possibly at the inauguration, to stop it!

I mention the inauguration also for a few reasons…. this took place a few hours before the CURRENT President gave his farewell speech. As you watched the farewell speech you of course were thinking forward to the next President’s coming in (the inauguration) and you had already in your mind’s memory bank the event on the Hudson earlier in the day a way to blend the symbolic message of the plane crash together with the real time physical event in our minds.

A few more things come into play here for me….

One being that there was such a “MIRACULOUS” outcome to this event.

The passengers standing on the wings of the plane seemed to be “walking on water” and the pilot was depicted as a HERO/SAVIOR.

This evokes images of Jesus when he helped Peter to walk on water and to the safety of the awaiting boat. (just as the passengers did) so it evokes for us the idea of a KING, a Hebrew king of the bloodlines of the 12 tribes of Israel or more specifically the “next” Jesus … who will, as he did, most likely come from the Line of Judah… like Jesus and King David and King Solomon did

The bloodlines of the original 12 tribes of Israel and possibly many more bloodlines such as the 12 sons in the Arabic line that came from Ishmael and possibly even others, all have elements in them fighting the other factions for ultimate control of the world. The road they plan to travel to get to the throne of the world is to produce a BLOODLINE RULER Heir to the throne.

Obama has certainly been depicted as a SUN GOD figure and many have made the connection that he is a Horus figure and that in him, the controllers of the world finally have seated their bloodline sun king the returned/reborn Horus!

and I just recently saw this on labyrinthofthepsychonaut.com

Obama is using the winged disk symbol of Horus….

Winged disk/globe of Horus:

So there you have it… events in the Hudson river Yesterday seem to pointing to ongoing war of the different factions to get their guy to the finish line first and to the fact that Obama is of one of those bloodline factions, most likely the Tribe Of Judah and that the other side does NOT want him to succeed.

I believe it is pointing us forward to the other event that we have been forewarned was coming…. when Joe Biden and Colin Powell BOTH warned us that an event … a “MANUFACTURED” (done on purpose) event was coming in connection with the Obama Presidency that would rock the world and change everything…. AND Powell was even kind enough to tell us the date… he said “right around the 21st or 22nd of January” well folks the 20th is Inauguration Day!

There is more, much more and if time allows I will be back with it.

Never Surrender

[Kathleen]

Talk about bizarre....here's some cctv footage taken the day of the crash that shows the twin towers?????

WTF? Hudson River Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS9k3WWKRvs)

[Bonnie]

David Wilcock positively expresses in his new blog that this incident "is a very clear meta-message from higher forces complete with an amazing 3:33!"

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=424&Itemid=70

[Luminari]

Talk about bizarre....here's some cctv footage taken the day of the crash that shows the twin towers?????

WTF? Hudson River Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS9k3WWKRvs)

That is SO strange. :shocked:

[giovonni]

Talk about bizarre....here's some cctv footage taken the day of the crash that shows the twin towers?????

WTF? Hudson River Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS9k3WWKRvs)

Ok here's my take on this
I have a map of where the plane landed below> check out and note;
Note the camera was focused from the New Jersey (Hobokan area side) facing Manhanttan.
which would have been facing mid to upper Westside of Manhattan.
The twin towers would (If they were still there) downstream towards the tip of Manhattan Island due East> where the Island tip is and the Hudson and East River meet. Completely out of realm of a possible camera angle.
There are lots of twin buiding complexes in Manhattan, and these buildings (if they have not been pasted or photo shopped on) would have been towards the Central Park area> possibly even on the Eastside of the Island on the East River where there are lots of tall buidings.
Note;
I worked on that Jersey side in what is known as Teterboro Airport area and am quite familar with all landmarks and logistics of the vicinity. Not far from where this camera was positined. Note The plane landed above a tunnel (the line connecting Jersey and Manhattan is the Lincoln Tunnel not a bridge). Note also the plane landed just east of the George Washington Bridge> way up stream from the lower Manhattan area> where the Twin Towers use too be.

After making a left turn loop from the airport> the plane was heading downstream east towards lower Manhattan. Landing from North-West to South-East direction. The camera was focused on a Northwest direction of Manhanttan, I hope you all can understand this?
map of crash;
http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/flash/4325758/

heres another map you can manipulate to view all of Manhattan;
http://www.manhattansunset.com/ManhattanMap/Manhattan+Area+Map/
Note this was a miracle, but in a humankind of way> gio
But let me also say > this could of been part of something that did not go as planned?? As Humble Janitor notes below??? Cos Why did this film surface so quickly?

[Humble Janitor]

Talk about bizarre....here's some cctv footage taken the day of the crash that shows the twin towers?????

WTF? Hudson River Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS9k3WWKRvs)

OH....MY..GODDDD :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

[Humble Janitor]

I firmly believe that this is a failed false-flag operation.

And it was THWARTED!

You see, they are not as powerful as they thought they were!

[Czymra]

Ok here's my take on this
I have a map of where the plane landed below> check out and note;
Note the camera was focused from the New Jersey (Hobokan area side) facing Manhanttan.
which would have been facing mid to upper Westside of Manhattan.
The twin towers would (If they were still there) downstream towards the tip of Manhattan Island due East> where the Island tip is and the Hudson and East River meet. Completely out of realm of a possible camera angle.
There are lots of twin buiding complexes in Manhattan, and these buildings (if they have not been pasted or photo shopped on) would have been towards the Central Park area> possibly even on the Eastside of the Island on the East River where there are lots of tall buidings.
Note;
I worked on that Jersey side in what is known as Teterboro Airport area and am quite familar with all landmarks and logistics of the vicinity. Not far from where this camera was positined. Note The plane landed above a tunnel (the line connecting Jersey and Manhattan is the Lincoln Tunnel not a bridge). Note also the plane landed just east of the George Washington Bridge> way up stream from the lower Manhattan area> where the Twin Towers use too be.

After making a left turn loop from the airport> the plane was heading downstream east towards lower Manhattan. Landing from North-West to South-East direction. The camera was focused on a Northwest direction of Manhanttan, I hope you all can understand this?
map of crash;
http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/flash/4325758/

heres another map you can manipulate to view all of Manhattan;
http://www.manhattansunset.com/ManhattanMap/Manhattan+Area+Map/
Note this was a miracle, but in a humankind of way> gio
But let me also say > this could of been part of something that did not go as planned?? As Humble Janitor notes below??? Cos Why did this film surface so quickly?

Thanks for that Giovonni. I've never been to Manhattan but I had the strong feeling that there are more twin tower like buildings around there. That person is just drawing the devil on the wall.

[Dantheman62]

It's the Time Warner Buildings.

[IndigoChild1986]

Consider the non-crash of US Airways Flight 1549 as 911 in reverse. This is a very highly visible, large magnitude Miracle, the sort of thing that can’t or wouldn’t ever be denied. “Out of the Blue”, this event with its great evocative power in the mass mind provides an interesting opportunity to investigate the “Driving Providence” that generated such a high-magnitude, unexpected outcome.

A flow into waking awareness of useful information from unaccountable origins may be ordinary and normal, but certain instances capture and hold our attention. Studying Zero Time Reference and Zero Order Communications, we aim to comprehend the mechanisms of Intelligent Universe (God) that drive the flow of such information and deliver it with stunning precision to the “right place at the right time” where the kernels of information have optimal relevance and usefulness. It is possible and not difficult to cultivate and develop an interplay with IU such that important Guidance information pops up Out of the Blue, as needed–allowing for wide-open timing (zero time reference).

Experience has shown that in most instances, compelling coincidences encapsulate information of great value that is transmitted via symbolism that is decipherable “easily enough”, usually encoded, but in a way that is highly ACCessible.

Does the non-crash of Flight 1549 convey anything compelling beyond the survival of all its human cargo? Governor Paterson called it a miracle.

When was the last time New Yorkers saw a passenger liner flying at low altitude past their high-rise windows? On September 11 the aircraft crashed without touching the ground. January 15, 2009 the world witnessed that US Airways Flight 1549 crashed without crashing.

This non-crash occurred earlier in the day before George Bush gave his farewell address. September 11 taught the public to dis-trust government. The world has been taught to see that W presided over tragic failure and waste. The non-crash of 1549 teaches us that the safety-system in place is fully enabled and effective. Reverse-911.

What kind of “birds” met with Flight 1549?

Having the jet land like a goose on the water–not usually a graceful act even for geese–and then having all 155 Souls walk (on water?) off the jet within sight of the WTC site is evidence of an Ivan Driver guiding the safe landing and exit. The jet slowly drifted down river and was tied up very close to the WTC site.

For its spectacle value alone, it ranks as a planetary event, an impossibly graceful and serene sequence of events from taking off from the ground to non-crashing and walking onto the dock, punctuated by a moment of unexpected collision with reality.

Governor Paterson: “This is a potential tragedy that may have become one of the most magnificent days in the history of New York City agencies.”

Paraphrasing the Talking Heads… “NOT the same as it ever was”

Spectacular non-crash occurred exactly 7 years 4 mos 4 days after 911…

Birds 1 and 2 hit the WTC (north and south towers).
Bird 3 hit the Pentagon west side.
Bird 4 fell in Shanksville before reaching a target to the east? (East wing of WH, east side of capitol, or?)

A fifth bird might have been targeted on 911: Air Force One. It apparently escaped by pointing its beak to the heavens and diving for a safe nest…

The Fifth Bird miraculously landed like a goose on the Hudson within a stone’s throw of the WTC site. The Fifth direction is UP. At a reverse-911, twin pillars of a new economic paradigm are raised up in a very public manner, in an impossibly tight time frame?

Like the three birds symbol of achieving an unlikely higher potential from two difficult lesser ones (WTC fall raised human awareness), this miraculous jet landing on water also reflects what can be seen as the unlikely success of W’s term in guiding and transforming a whole gaggle of conflicts writhing out from the domination hydra.

Perhaps the miraculous non-crash of Flight 1549 mirrors the way that 911 prophesied the fall of the regressive system.

The Saving Force rising to the need and landing as graceful as a goose for the world to see the reality of the impossible?

Intelligent Universe mentoring us in Zero Time Reference?

[IndigoChild1986]

In military slang, a bird is used for a rocket, guided missile, satellite, or airplane.

Birds would be - IMO - used for several of these.

The pilot of that US Airways was ex-airforce F-4 pilot.

"Blue Skyer". Long time ago in my military days, recall using the term "bird away" when an Honest John missile launched from its launcher truck.

US AIRWAYS FLIGHT 1549 MIN'S BEFORE CRASH
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7da_1232216612

PICS OF U.S. AIRWAYS FLIGHT 1549 HOISTED FROM HUDSON, ONE DAMAGED ENGINE VISIBLE

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0fGc9Rs4F1cZX/610x.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0epn2BifUx3Tv/610x.jpg

More pics at http://www.daylife.com/photo/0epn2BifUx3Tv/plane_Hudson

and at
http://www.daylife.com/search/photos/all/1?q=plane+Hudson

This is a surveilance video of the plane crashing in the Hudson. Afterwards is video of the passengers standing on the wing of the plane and the ferry approaching and tossing life jackets. This is just amazing.

The plane looks like it is coming in for a perfect landing. My god, what a pilot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihvhZk2hfo
This appears to be some of the first shots after the crash landing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KATFFMGw9AI
This one talks about how long the plane continued to float

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cff5MJrdn48
This is from a different angle... 15 minutes after the crash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTYru4vqyKU

[giovonni]

Thank you IndigoChild1986,
I believe you have lifted the veil up,
so we can examine and attempt to connect the dots>
too these very probable possibilites>
of our shared reality?

[Dantheman62]

Here's a video of a bird ingestion... http://www.ugoto.com/video_bird-gets-ingested-in-airplane-engine.html

[giovonni]

Here's a video of a bird ingestion... http://www.ugoto.com/video_bird-gets-ingested-in-airplane-engine.html

Excellent find Dan!
That is quite graphically explanatory> too the apparently increasing danger> with more and more wild birds about airports!


:plane:
Maybe more Bird :dog::dog::dog: on the runaways??

[Humble Janitor]

I'm not naive enough to believe that a BIRD of all things could cause engine failure.

[Dantheman62]

Humble Janitor, birds are a major problem for airports, they use all kinds of things to try to keep birds away from runways. They use dogs, cannons, and even destroy the nests and eggs in the nests around airports. I just put a video up showing engine failure by bird ingestion!

[Dantheman62]

Tammy Strange, Executive Director, Augusta Regional Airport: “They do pose a danger to aircraft, they can fly into engines, and fly into the window of the cockpit.”

She’s talking about black birds, and it’s hard to imagine they can create such huge problems…like that of Flight 1549, that had a crash landing into the Hudson River. Over the past few years, Augusta has seen its own fair share of these problematic black birds.

Cedric Johnson, Augusta Aviation Commission Chairman: “We’re going to go to every length that we can to try to get rid of the birds because it is a safety issue.“

That was Augusta Aviation Chairman, Cedric Johnson back in August. Then the birds were getting out of control and millions would fly to and from the wetlands which surround the airport.

Strange: “That’s where they were nesting. They were coming in at night and leaving in the morning, so they were flying over the airport like two times a day.”

But not anymore now that the grass is being cut at the treatment facility to remove the birds habitat.

Strange: “We did do pyrotechnics to scare the birds, and to change their flight path. And also we have air cannons."

It’s all in the name of safety, trying to prevent something like this and protect everyone on board.

Strange: “That’s a continuous thing for an airport all airports have bird problems and their always trying to do things to mitigate that.”

[Dantheman62]

Birds the size of adult Canada geese, which can weigh from 4½ to 12 pounds, can quickly disable the biggest, most well-built jet engines.

There isn't an engine that's designed to take a goose through it," said Steve Garber, a biologist who once headed the PA anti-bird-strike program.

Geese on Rikers Island threaten planes at La Guardia, Garber said, and JFK Airport is near a giant wildlife refuge. The PA has battled JFK's bird problems by using falcons to scare off seagulls, and setting up noisemaking cannons, but the threat has never been eradicated.

"A 2-pound bird can destroy the internal mechanism of a gas-turbine engine so that you're unable to restart it," said Robert Spragg, an attorney with the Manhattan firm Kreindler & Kreindler, which specializes in aviation law

[IndigoChild1986]

Why is it so quite about this in European media?

[Czymra]

Why is it so quite about this in European media?

We just had enough of them Americans. ;)

I can see that a bird can destroy the turbine but I have seen so many test on TV that tried to make them 'birdproof', you throw in a chicken and you get chicken mash in the back. Didn't bother the machine.

But hey, chicken might just be fodder compared to large birds.

Does it matter whether it's a remote controlled Russian Goose or a Cruise Missile? ;)

[BROOK]

Hay Bert...you know that free trip south for the winter...the one they said would be a flag or something..well the boarding gates are those holes on the wings..you take the right one I'll board the left....yea!!
Free trip south:naughty:

http://wesoft.jeeran.com/funny_pictures_Bird_Swarm.jpg
They don't call us Bird Brains for nothing:insane:

[Dantheman62]

http://www.wildlifedamagecontrol.net/images/birds/birdstrike/1.jpg

[Dantheman62]

About 35 people have been killed in five accidents worldwide since 1975 involving large airplanes hitting birds, according to the Bird Strike Committee USA.
More than 82,000 bird strikes were reported from about 1,600 U.S. airports between 1990 and 2007, the committee said.

[BROOK]

This is from a seagull
http://www.dontdumponwilliston.org/images/bird-v-plane.jpg

[Dantheman62]

Holy s...t!!

[BROOK]

http://www.csulb.edu/labs/bcl/media/Article%20Health%20&%20Science%20-%20Flight%20threat_files/29satsci2.jpg

http://www.wired.com/news/images/full/page7_f.jpg

From the birds

[Dantheman62]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c0/The_Birds_original_poster.jpg/200px-The_Birds_original_poster.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Birds_original_poster.jpg)

[giovonni]

Here' something new on this particular plane?

Passengers report scare on earlier US Airways Flight 1549
here;
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/19/hudson.plane.folo/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

[IndigoChild1986]

US Airways would not confirm that the Flight 1549 that took off January 13 was the same plane that splashed into the Hudson two days later.

Valerie Wunder, a US Airways spokeswoman, said: "US Air is working with the National Transportation Safety Board in this investigation." She would not comment on any other details, including Tuesday's flight, though she did confirm US Airways is looking into it.

I have a feeling that every one who was on board was trained for this event, I wonder how they came outside so fast and were standing on the wings, and then the rescue boat came..

Hmm, hard to believe that Barack Obama had nothing to do with this.

[giovonni]

Here for your viewing analysis the youtube Video simulation
of US Airways crash in Hudson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CchxeOuWC6w

[BROOK]

Pretty cool Gio, Thanks :original:

[Dantheman62]

Thanks gio!, and IndigoChild1986 all the stewardesses and or stewards were around 50 years old and up and all were very experienced, plus if you're in a plane that just landed in the water then I would think that everyone would be in an extreme hurry to get out as soon as possible!

[mpea]

Thanks gio!, and IndigoChild1986 all the stewardesses and or stewards were around 50 years old and up and all were very experienced, plus if you're in a plane that just landed in the water then I would think that everyone would be in an extreme hurry to get out as soon as possible!

In my younger days I was 'cabin crew' - what you say is correct - cabin crew are there mainly for safety and are highly trained to get people off the aircraft in emergencies such as this.

Birds are also a very real danger - my husband was a pilot, whilst flying a light aircraft over Irian Jaya his plane suffered 'bird strike' - both he and his passenger were killed. Don't ever doubt what birds can do to an aircraft. If the plane brought down in the Hudson safely by a very experienced pilot was the result of bird strike is open to debate but believe me birds are a real problem as the pictures in posts above demonstrate.

That pilot is a hero in my book.

[Czymra]

Birds are also a very real danger.

No, planes are the real danger. ;) No one ever thinking about them birds?

(And do UFOs ever have bird strikes? Area 52 anyone? ;) Sorry I just had to.)

[Dantheman62]

WASHINGTON – Investigators said Wednesday they have found the remains of what may be a bird in the engine of the US Airways jet that made a dramatic landing in New York's Hudson River. The National Transportation Safety Board said an examination of the Airbus 320's right engine revealed evidence of "soft body damage" and that "organic material" was found in the engine and on the wings and fuselage.

Samples of the material have gone to the Agriculture Department for a complete DNA analysis, the board said.

A single feather was found attached to a flap track on the wing and will be examined by experts at the Smithsonian Institution.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090121/ap_on_re_us/plane_splashdown

[IndigoChild1986]

WASHINGTON – Investigators said Wednesday they have found the remains of what may be a bird in the engine of the US Airways jet that made a dramatic landing in New York's Hudson River. The National Transportation Safety Board said an examination of the Airbus 320's right engine revealed evidence of "soft body damage" and that "organic material" was found in the engine and on the wings and fuselage.

Samples of the material have gone to the Agriculture Department for a complete DNA analysis, the board said.

A single feather was found attached to a flap track on the wing and will be examined by experts at the Smithsonian Institution.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090121/ap_on_re_us/plane_splashdown


This is well planed, I don't doubt that they can place a bird there or any other material to confirm their story.

[Orion11]

Indigo Child...
I have a feeling that every one who was on board was trained for this event, I wonder how they came outside so fast and were standing on the wings, and then the rescue boat came..

Hmm, hard to believe that Barack Obama had nothing to do with this.
are you serious?

c'mon man...

I thought Avalon cleaned this kinda junk up???

Seriously man........ your taking away from everything worth reading.

Absolutely ridiculous man... Really!! shame on you.

[IndigoChild1986]

are you serious?

c'mon man...

I thought Avalon cleaned this kinda junk up???

Seriously man........ your taking away from everything worth reading.

Absolutely ridiculous man... Really!! shame on you.

Dear Orion,

Thanks for your opinion, I have however no understanding what you are trying to say or what you mean.

I don't like the way you speak to me, you could contacted me in private message if you did not like something about me, but I see this as abusing and blaming.

I think you are having a bad day.

Open a window or go for a walk, take some fresh air, clear your mind.
Drink some water and listen for some music, I suggest ambient,


Regards

--

IndigoChild1986

[Orion11]

lol,

Dear Indigo Child,

You are welcome, and thanks for the 'concern' .

Was my post really that hard to understand?
I recived a few PM's about it, and those people seemed to understand it petty well,

so let me try to make it a bit easier to understand....

What I mean/ what I was trying to say~ Was that what you are adding to this thread is taking away from all seriousness of it.

Those ridiculous conspiracy theories that only you are coming up with,
Only make people laugh, and take thing less seriously when they read that stuff.

It holds NO bearing whatsoever... only in your own mind.

My day is going pretty well , thank you.
its just when i read completely obnoxious statements,
i have to say something, just who I am.
it is 8 below outside right now, so opening windows is not an option.

Ive got a nice bottle of water here, and also got some deep forest on the stereo (you should check them out).

No "abusing" or "blaming"... lol

Just letting you know that if you want ANYONE to take you seriously about ANYTHING..
you have to get real and stop living in your own little fantasy.

constructive criticism if you will.
"get real man"

Bless

[Dantheman62]

IndigoChild1986, all of the pictures I put up and BROOK put up are to show you that these things do happen. All of the articles I posted are for you to prove to you that these things do happen and are common. You can believe what you want of course, but the evidence is over whelming that birds most likely had something to do with this plane going down. Read my articles that I posted, the last one even states that they found bird parts and feathers. But then again I could be wrong or they could be wrong, but the evidence is there. I usually go with the majority instead of the minority when it comes to evidence.

[BROOK]

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q20/jaredr122/wing/wing1.jpg
http://www.crossedupoffroad.com/catalog/images/JamNut.png
I may be a wing nut...but I don't see any evidence of foul play

[IndigoChild1986]

I apologize for not seeing those pictures before posting the post.

[Orion11]

lol

niiice brook!! :D