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Oh my God! Where do you buy your hamburgers! That's 6$ a piece!

Just kidding :)

But Seriously, I'm out of work right now. I keep every dime I can save. That's not to say I will not be back someday (hopefylly before december 21st 2012!!!)

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Dear Bill & Kerry
Dear Friends here

Havent had time to check in here often
since i have to take care of my zone at
http://stclairzone.ning.com plus my work

Have caught up with a few things here
ok I will send you funds, tell me how,
and where to, and we get it done ok.

I dont see any reason why people make a fuss
either they see the point and contribute to it,
or they dont, and then so be it, it is one of these typical moments,
where action without thought in choiceless awareness is everything...
and all words are useless, meaningless concepts in disturbed timelines,

why dont people just donate immediately without further ado?

Francie Leone Jones pointed out many things I agree with...
well she is correct, people will soon find out what FREE means.

Let me know how best to send you some funds to get started ok -

Apart from that, I feel you can go ahead with the projects such as DVDs series, and movie plans, and the book/s, and the list of donors, sponsors, advertizing banners etc. I am sure sure some good books and new technology enterprises would not mind being seen as paid for ads on your sites. As long as everything is consistent with what your work is about, these things can be handled easily.

Or / and otherwise make an inner circle radiant electronic zone only for those who like your ideas and immediately act on it. I find it strange that people dare discussing your house rules while inside your home. But such is life in the "new paradigm of obama" timeline... you will soon see more weirdness and high strangeness.



Peace,
Very best to you

Michael St.Clair

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I had a few ideas for slogans to be put in these t-shirts (in both french and english). I think I developped a good concept. I wanted to call this Ascension Clothing Company but I don't have the money to start that company (:

But Both Camelot and Avalon are welcome to these ideas. Here they are (imagine them on a t-shirt in front) :

1. Is Nibiru coming?
Est-ce que Nibiru s’en vient ?

2. Ce qui est en haut est comme ce qui est en bas.
Ce qui est en haut est comme ce qui est en bas. (to be translated)

3. Change your reality.
Changez votre réalité.

4. Reality is only what you believe it to be.
La réalité est seulement ce que vous croyez qu’elle est.

5. Where will you be on December 21st 2012?
Où serez-vous le 21 décembre 2012 ?

6. The aliens are coming! The aliens are coming!
Les extra-terrestres arrivent ! Les extra-terrestres arrivent !

7. Are you really there?
Êtes-vous vraiment là ?

8. Am I really here?
Suis-je vraiment ici ?

9. Dream yourself into a new reality.
Rêvez à une nouvelle réalité et plongez-y.

10. Love and light are powerful. Be both.
L’amour et la lumière sont puissants. Soyez les deux.

11. Leave the Bigfoot alone.
Laissez le Bigfoot tranquille.

12. Roswell, New-Mexico: What really happened?
Roswell, New-Mexico : Qu’est-ce qui est vraiment arrivé ?

13. Nothing is real but this t-shirt.
Rien n’est réel à part ce t-shirt.

14. Leave Nessie alone.
Laissez le monstre du Loch Ness tranquille.

15. We are therefore I am. I am therefore we are.
Nous sommes donc je suis. Je suis donc nous sommes.

16. Thoughts change reality. Think about it.
Les pensées changent la réalité. Pensez-y.

17. Do your own research.
Faîtes votre propre recherche.

And in the bacK :

http://www.divinecosmos.com

http://projectcamelot.org/index.html

http://projectavalon.net/

What do you think?

Donald

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2. Ce qui est en haut est comme ce qui est en bas.
Ce qui est en haut est comme ce qui est en bas. (to be translated)

as above so below...


:thumb_yello:there done

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I think yo should apologize for this one my friend. I personnaly relied a whole lot on my family for the last year and half and that's not because I wanted or planed to. I had health problems. Thank God for that wonderful family of mine. I'm usualy a hard working man (I'm mangement) but as i said, the last 18 months have been really hard on me.

I do not know the situation of everyone here and it's none of my bussiness. But I'm sure you would find other people with stories like mine.

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Donald, that is great and you got several laughs out of me. I am so going to make the 2012 T-Shirt. It's too good! Those are things I could so sell at my school. They speak alot of truth.

With StClair's post, I will admit I am disappointed. I have become more disappointed with several of Project Camelot's interviewees lately as I use to resonate rather strongly with them but that has since changed [slowly].

It seems the forum on this issue is split rather decisively and I find it as futile as the New Agers and Christians going against each other. I will note that those who have stated the notion of 'principal' I feel are indeed all of the philosopher type. Many people cannot see past their viewpoint and truly understand what we are stating in terms of prinicipal, honor, and universal truths. The intangible (honor/principal) far outweighs the tangible (survival/access).

When I was in middle school, I remember looking up the code of chivalry, printing it out, and reading it many times. I had no bible as a kid, but I had this. It was one of the few things that resonated true with me. Heck, in the few years I've had MySpace, I've never changed the occupation from knight. It was not in terms of I wanted to be a hero, but the beliefs I held at the deep core of who I am.

I will state that many of these ideals still seem to be ahead of their times, but with that, time will tell. I will also reiterate this viewpoint in that I find it much MUCH more important in the times we have recently moved into (sixth day) that we network with each other and develop meaningful relationships rather than being presented with new information. I feel much more information can be divulged more rapidly amongst us, especially in person, eye to eye, and that we need to engage and act, versus sit and think.

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Thanks :)

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no problem:thumb_yello:

Ho! Mitakuye Oyasin

"We Are All Related"

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Its interesting to see the different thought waves collide on this simple but important subject. Let's face it, we are human beings, therefore we will agree or disagree depending on our perception and situation. But the fact remains, Project Camelot/Avalon needs your help. I will take the middle ground and say this! ... forget the word subscription! Out of the goodnes of your being with love and gratitude, would you all please donate towards this endevour and lets all help each other!

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Thanks Micheal St.Clair!!

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Dear friends:

I read this whole thread and have a couple ideas for fund raising.

1. Pay by the post. If you have something good to say, pop 50 cents to put it up. This will cut down on the trolls and one word comments, which are cute (not the trolls) but really not all that useful. Thereby the quality of commentary goes up and the detritus goes down. If you are seeking information, can't you pay 50 cents? People spend more on a phone call and then to only one source. So you pay to post your question, gather a bunch of private replies (direct e-mails, for instance) and post a cumulative response. Whew, a whole dollar and you've given HUGE, HUGE to the community here. Then go back to lurking.

2. Visit Red Ice Creations. They have a subscription model that I think works well. This would be for PC. The first half of the interview is free and the second is by subscription. The financially strapped people (me) get a bunch of good information free and those who can pay get more. Yeah, I know, "He who has, gets...". It's not exactly fair, but what is?

I agree with those who say the value of this forum is the members, but not every post has value for many. I saw one post in this thread that contained a single period. No value there!

Bandwidth is not free. Travel is not free. Neither are cameras, tape, editing systems, hotels, rental cars, meals, and all the rest. We will need to contribute financially somehow, or the thing cannot continue.

2 ideas @ 2 cents each - 4 cents please!

Dave

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Care about you'll (members)-- but stop whining. And Bill, Just tell us where to send the M/O to?
Very happy to be a PC/PA member and a few bucks a year to help support your effort is fine with me.:original:

Broke but happy,
RSF

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Thank you Michael for your kind offer.

Here is the information:

Mailbox address:

PROJECT CAMELOT and PROJECT AVALON
638 Lindero Canyon Road
Suite 277
Oak Park
CA 91377-5457, USA

FedEx and other secure courier packages can be received there, as well as regular mail.

DONATIONS BY CHECK OR MONEY ORDER ARE ACCEPTABL.

PLEASE MAKE PAYABLE TO:

PROJECT AVALON

All donations will go to further our work at Project Camelot and Project Avalon.

We have registered the trade name for Project Avalon and have obtained a Federal ID# as required by U.S. law.

Please note: We are NOT a tax exempt non profit company... therefore you may not be able to file your donation as tax deductible.

You can also use the PAYPAL DONATION BUTTONS LOCATED ON THE PROJECT CAMELOT WEBSITE located at the bottom of most every page.

Best wishes,

Kerry

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Bill & Kerry,
Intent is the point, correct?
There is no option to this, and this I for one understand: As members of the "Ground Crew," we gotta pay our dues. You two do this for all of us, and it's not too much to ask for help.
You'll get my subscription.
This Unified Field Theory of Nassim Haramein is hitting me hard. I love it.
Any hopes/intention of speaking with this fella?
All sortsa love,
Alec

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Guys, there is so much to say. How to begin?

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so the plans have changed?

the word "donate" is what St. Clair uses.
not "fee".
somebody mentioned a fund-meter to show the money received and what`s still needed! brilliant idea..put it next to de donation-pay-pal-box.

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I haven't contributed very much to this forum but if anyone has to pay for sharing his/her knowledge, experiences and wisdom anywhere I won't be checking this forum anymore. Think about this: Sometimes a stranger just passing by and leaving a comment on a subject, can have a really big impact on a discussion and can immediately change the course of thinking of all involved.

It's a matter of principles I think. We have to pay for learning and even for giving our knowledge to others all our life. That's absolutely against any principles we all stand for, don't we? We want to change that, don't we?

Just a thought,
WT

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:thumb_yello:
ah yes, i wanted to say something like that too..:sweatdrop:
..a donation "box" wouldn`t be so limiting..

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I have given this a lot of thought recently. Originally I voted not to have subscriptions as I was worried that some people would not be able to fully contribute here just because of financial restrictions and that would have been terribly sad. But in all honesty there is not a great deal of choice. If you make it donation only...even with the best will in the world most people wont bother to donate...that is just the nature of it. So subscription it is.

I am happy to subscribe but the two tier system again makes me concerned that some members will be made to feel like second class citizens.

I suspect our numbers will dwindle somewhat and unfortunately that is inevitable but if it allows Bill and Kerry to continue doing what they do then I think it is a very small financial sacrifice.

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all right, but then make it like a parking-meter..where you put 50cent and can park your car for a certain time..if you throw in more, you can have more "time"...if payment ceases, the accounts shouldn`t be cancelled, just put to a "coma" until some more cash flows...(maybe)

i just really hate it when i have to cancel a subscription, so that i won`t get charged any more..(my wife did that with the wrong company and it was a real pain to get out of it)... that`s why I don`t subscribe..:original:

ps: there should be 2 possibilities...the parking meter type (for those with little cash flow) and permanent membership (until you quit..)
pps: there should be a 3rd possibility like a "forum-time-counter" (like credit)...post now pay later...and add to it a system, where good posts can be awarded by the richer with penny donations... does it make sense? (of course some other member would have to vouch for the one going for option 3 post now pay later...

On its way to Kerry...
 

Hi Kerry
we do that ok
done deal...

*


Dear Friends

my donation leaves Europe to reach Kerry next week

meanwhile here is the spiritual conspiracy at work
if you like you can become a part of it also

** http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=7888 **

http://zenofstars.org/image/Mystery.jpg

Peace
M StC.

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I am following Michael's example and donating today (as soon as the donate button works---I pm-ed Colin about it)

I must admit that I have been feeling guilty for not sending money to Camelot prior to this...I have visited PC for about two years and a donation is LONG overdue for me...

Please accept my apology Bill and Kerry....I was being selfish (very true). I love you both and dearly appreciate the work you are doing. My thoughts are with you always.

Francie

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Side note:

I dontated thru Camelot site instead as that button works just fine :)

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It's like them changing 'bailout' to 'rescue plan'. Hmmm... Namaste.

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Hi Kerry,
Thanks for posting the Donation address. By Monday I'll have sent a contribution.
---
Hi Members, I was absolutely blown away when PC interviewed and published:
http://www.projectcamelot.org/george...sept_2008.html
Sept 2/08.

At the time I didn't believe -- now I do !!

RSF

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AND EXACTLY MINE.

I own websites and make a ton off of advertising. Some of my sites make thousands a month from Google AdWords.

I always thought this place might be a trap. I can find no info on Bill and Kerry.

When you pay they have you!

Goodbye.....

Good luck.....

And Peace to you all.....

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No need to shout. somebody worried about anonymity could send a money order or something. Going to be nice around here pretty soon.

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You're kidding.... right?

Try the 'Ask Bill and Kerry' thread, for a start. :original:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7675

Or the Camelot 'About Us' page.

http://projectcamelot.org/about_us.html

Or any one of dozens of radio interviews, like the one listed here with Paranexus (quite a good one):

http://projectcamelot.org/audio_interviews.html

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ok, i came bck against my word here to check upp the "news" on this "free open mind o ppl" site.

only to discover u are divide and conqering.

i am laughing my ass off in the sight of all this.

here u all are speaking of freedom, opening minds, helping EVERYONE, getting the truth out.. buuuuut you haf to pay for it.

sound like the this timeframes earth goverment and elites speaking.

and yes i am talkin of u bill and kerry

you haf countless of times talked of justice and gettin the fact and truth out to everyone at any costs, and standing upp against the system that are in failure today.

becouse in the face of truth it is not ONLY you 2, we are all one, remmember that statement?

and yet here you are dividing and conquring, throwing away those who cant give a fictinonal number, a fantasy paper, a metal round thing witch is made upp and created from nothing of our world.

when did this all change? what changed? did we change? did we get to free to disscuss our problems with the world?

or was it the lust for getting onward get passed by the fake worlds one true grip of uss take over? money, cash, credits, numbers that have gotten a "value"?

one thing is pretty obvius, this is becomming more and more the anticrist u all have preached aboot for years, here u are speaking of advertising, donations, getting comanyes in to sponsor you, and making ppl pay to open their mouth.

try putting this to comparement to the goverment u all "oppose" soooo much. u see the ressemblence?

here u are creating a base of fear at its rawest and brutal ever

you have started a place with ppl could come away from fear, and disscuss their inner most secrest that most dont have anyone around in their real life to talk with.
and created a place were ppl could ask questions and even anwser questions from own experience. dont matter if it was a 14 year old or a 50 year old HU-Man who did it, it sparked, it resonated and out came a disscussion many have red and mby even learned from.

but this is at an end, just becouse of a fantasy paper, fantasy number, a created debt from nothingness. the verry thing that many are batteling to get a free world were we can actually share and live in prosperity and co-existance. and above all do what we are here to doo. take care of this planet we live on.

you all was so amazed that it boomed so big in no time

and u speak like priests of new worlds and what we should belive and look into

then you start of limeting the "free word" down by imposing rules
(sounds familiar?)

and now your are cutting down all the freedom by divide and conquer.

this is relly ridiculus. if you cant continue of this YOU bill and kerry have started, then end it, dont go on pushing on free ppl to pay for the truth.

if you relly are so noble and sincere as u have portrayed yourself as this is your path. you started this, you took the choice, you made all of this. u reached into the vastness and created this. then why do you all of a sudden need all unknown creatures to give you something the elites and goverment created to continue?

this is ridiculus, you are becomming the verry thing you all "hate" so much, but cant "live" without.

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slywinkl, something's a wee-bit out of whack with your post. Do you have spell and grammar checking ? Sorry, it's just that it really is that bad before I get into your back-ass message content.. garbage.

I came across Project Camelot about four months ago and was startled by the effort and effect of Bill & Kerry's work.
Frankly, when I read some of the nonsense posted by some members, such as the above, it actually makes me chuckle as to how these dudes found there way here? :nono:

RSF

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ive never followed school, or the ways of this "world".

i follow the earth and me.

and as for the ppl posting "garbage", who are you to say what is garbage? im pretty sure many haf told you that stuff u speak of is ridiculus, but u belive in it. even if you are are 100% sure that u speak the truth, mby some dont belive even 1% of your word, couse they haf to find their own truth, tis is how we are

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Sorry. Your right.
RSF

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no im not right, it is right for me, i dont impose my belif, i merly brings it to the light. then anyone can read and make their own belif if they wish, if not they wont read it and be on their merry way.

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RSF, I find that statement to be rather negative and uncalled for. Think of this Chinese proverb:

“Those who do not read are no better off than those who cannot.”

I'm sorry, that man speaks truth, and I am sorry if it appears only transparent and flawed to you. He speaks with passion. You speak with ignorance. Think of what I am saying.

I have been familiar with PC for almost a year now, and they have done tremendously wonderful work. Bill & Kerry are very good-hearted people I feel. However, that does not mean you blindly follow them. Think for yourself, not with the majority.

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I admire you for this. Namaste.

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I m not sure if it is moral issue with me of just my guts telling me no
But together with lots of fear mongering in October which in my opinion
Ultimately falls on lap on Bill and Carey ,paying for privilege of posting here
Is a strong no from me .see you on the other side friends .

may the love and light of our infinite creator be with you all.

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---

Quite right too. My anger got ahead of my senses, as yours.
RSF

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I'm an admin on a smaller forum. We charge $5/year for operating costs and use any leftover to help forum members who go through challenging times (after a vote by the forum members). We've helped buy groceries, pay mortgages, pay medical expenses, send flowers, etc. On that forum, that people pay for, ALL are considered "owners". Admins just do the techie stuff.

Paying implies a sense of entitlement and freedom to say what's on your mind. After reading the numerous threads here, I'm going to propose to the other admins of our board that we set up a widget and do donations instead because times are getting hard for so many financially and we won't have to keep track of who has paid, who hasn't, send out warnings to pay, or ban people from posting.

What bothers me about paying to be here is what this forum will lose. There are MANY people here who don't post a lot but will, from time to time, post a fantastic nugget of info. Many who mostly read won't pay. In return, we lose the information they *could* have provided. It's a very limiting model imo. We won't know what we're missing.

What's wrong with putting up a widget? Sure, people could donate now but why would they if it's still being debated? Some of us are waiting for a decision to be made before we decide to donate. I personally don't want to donate and then find out that people are being shut out for not paying. I wouldn't feel good about my money going towards that.

It's easy peasie to set up a widget. Put the dollar amount and the money will come. If not enough is raised then suspend all posting for a day or two with a message on the front page explaining that operating costs must be met first. I don't think it would come to that, though. I think the money would be raised pretty fast and nobody would feel that they have to beg for someone else to pay their way and others will feel good that they have been able to contribute financially. Win win.

Looking at all the controversy surrounding this issue it seems to me that it's pretty obvious that a paid subscription doesn't "feel good" to many. On a spiritual level I understand that very well. Many of us listen carefully to how we "feel" and avoid that which makes us feel uneasy or just doesn't feel right. This controversy doesn't feel right.

I would also like to say I was a member of another board (a fertility forum) that instituted a paying system- then the mods got heavy handed and were deleting people's posts, even suspected of reading private messages which resulted in banning paying members. Lawyers got involved and many people were refunded their membership dues. Ugly situation for all involved and that site ruined their reputation.

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Please keep the forum free to post. I love it here.