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Humble Janitor 04-10-2009 08:00 AM

Government of Isreal
 
Just someting that crossed my mind, especially when certain members started harping up on the jew-bashing of Alex Jones' wife as a way of slandering him.

I have no problems with Jewish people. I just dislike the government of Israel.

Again, just a question. We have to be careful not to fall into a trap of lumping the actions of a few with the whole.

777 The Great Work 04-10-2009 08:16 AM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor (Post 127628)
Just someting that crossed my mind, especially when certain members started harping up on the jew-bashing of Alex Jones' wife as a way of slandering him.

I have no problems with Jewish people. I just dislike the government of Israel.

Again, just a question. We have to be careful not to fall into a trap of lumping the actions of a few with the whole.

This Hj is one of the biggest lies on the planet. There never ever was a race of people called Jews. Jew was a term associated with anyone who had awakened their concsiousness. The Gentiles are the ones not yet spiritualized. There is no j in the hebrew alphabet. Jew is JW or 33.

The place called Israel was known as the land of Canan.
Israel comes from the mystery school teachings of ISIS, RA and EL which means, mother, father, God ,or the androgynous nature of the divine.

Don't take my word for it ,do the research.

:thumb_yello:

Dominic 04-10-2009 09:40 AM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
I posted the thread on Jones to expose to people that things are not always as they appear. It seemed to work I helped to awaken people when they relize that the news is not the news anyways. and there is no truth to exposing the fake headlies.
He got awfully mad when the pressure was applied and blew his cool, for what purpose??

Read the headlies and laugh then connect the dots That is what I do.

Peace brother

Humble Janitor 04-10-2009 12:06 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work (Post 127631)
This Hj is one of the biggest lies on the planet. There never ever was a race of people called Jews. Jew was a term associated with anyone who had awakened their concsiousness. The Gentiles are the ones not yet spiritualized. There is no j in the hebrew alphabet. Jew is JW or 33.

The place called Israel was known as the land of Canan.
Israel comes from the mystery school teachings of ISIS, RA and EL which means, mother, father, God ,or the androgynous nature of the divine.

Don't take my word for it ,do the research.

:thumb_yello:

Yes, but this does not answer my question.

I'm not looking for semantics here.

I'm asking if there is genuine hatred towards those who call themselves Jews?

burgundia 04-10-2009 12:45 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
hatred is a very strong term. I doubt anybody here hates any jews or any other nation or religion. They may disapprove of certain things, sometimes dislike, but not hate.

Czymra 04-10-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor (Post 127674)
Yes, but this does not answer my question.

I'm not looking for semantics here.

I'm asking if there is genuine hatred towards those who call themselves Jews?

My guess is that there is some serious business going in making people hate Jews... especially considering what 777 said. In that context the question is kinda off. Is there hate, or is there just a lot of hate mongering?

Northern Boy 04-10-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Jews are not hated at all I feel that those who wish to control and manipulate the worlds population are linked to Zionists who believe they are gods chosen people when in effect we all are . During the Gaza conflict clearly several Jewish people spoke out and demonstrated against what the Israeli military and government were doing . Those are the real Jewish people in my opinion not the ones trying to control .

Baggywrinkle 04-10-2009 01:15 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
No.



A question in counterpoint. Does Avalon hate Christians?

Deah vo unni sinda is unnich eich,
loss een da eahst shtay shmeisa

Czymra 04-10-2009 01:29 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle (Post 127698)
Deah vo unni sinda is unnich eich,
loss een da eahst shtay shmeisa

Sorry but I have to mention this here, I'm always flabberghasted by how similar Yiddish is to German. Go figure...

Der wo ohne Suende ist unter euch,
lasst ihn den ersten Stein schmeissen.

Tarliam 04-10-2009 01:35 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
i disagree with some of the policies of the israeli government but ,i think they are a wonderful people as ethnicity like anywhere else a few bad apples can spoil the pie, just like the American whites treatment of African Americans and natives Americans i find criminal but to hate the whole group for the few is just as bad my opinion

Myplanet2 04-10-2009 01:46 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
interesting question, and interesting answers.

My answer, is that I can't answer the question as posed.

The "jewish" thing going on on this planet is very "layered", in my perception.

The strongest aspect I see associated with it is "manipulation".

It either is at, or it serves somebodies' agenda to have it perceived as at, the center of the conflicts currently being played out.

That to me looks like subterfuge. Although enough players have now bought into the notion that Jews, or jewishness, is at the heart of many of the problems on earth. I can only "see that" from the level of the playing field (or battle field?)

It looks like just another intentional misdirection, although a very "solid" one by now, as it's been in play for quite a while, and has managed to keep so much of the truth about what's actually going on hidden from normal view.

Do people hate jews? Maybe some do, or think they do. A better question from my perspective might be "Are people manipulated into creating strife?" .

Tarliam 04-10-2009 01:57 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 127711)
interesting question, and interesting answers.

My answer, is that I can't answer the question as posed.

The "jewish" thing going on on this planet is very "layered", in my perception.

The strongest aspect I see associated with it is "manipulation".

It either is at, or it serves somebodies' agenda to have it perceived as at, the center of the conflicts currently being played out.

That to me looks like subterfuge. Although enough players have now bought into the notion that Jews, or jewishness, is at the heart of many of the problems on earth. I can only "see that" from the level of the playing field (or battle field?)

It looks like just another intentional misdirection, although a very "solid" one by now, as it's been in play for quite a while, and has managed to keep so much of the truth about what's actually going on hidden from normal view.

Do people hate jews? Maybe some do, or think they do. A better question from my perspective might be "Are people manipulated into creating strife?" .

my short answer to your question i do believe people are manipulated to cause strife

THE eXchanger 04-10-2009 02:38 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
why do real jews - NOT like zionists / and, say they are NOT real jews ???

JesterTerrestrial 04-10-2009 02:54 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
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Love to all...especially those evil folks working in the dark against their fellow man...they need it the most. :wub2:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/a...1&d=1239375052


Truth?! I don't know. Its my first day. JT

Quote:

The Difference Between Jews and Zionists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuAPaKywuLA
Quote:

Who is antisemites? Who are they.
Zionist comes from ashkanzie jews (FALSE JEWS)
They are descendants of the Kazar barbarians who had a satanic cult.They still do.
They were pushed out of the Kazar area which is today's Georgia, Turkey near the Black Sea
These Kazars decided to adopt the hebrew alphabet and also now speak Yiddish to simulate the Jewish religion judaisaim.
They are professional liars.
They kazar king which was called a shaman was a real barbarian and made slaves from all the good people people around.
They would sign a pact of inagression and as soon as the people of the other country would fall asleep insecurity they would kill everybody, rape the wives, set the houses on fire and leave with slaves. The country would not exist anymore. They did that many times. After awhile the christian orthodox on the south and north were getting more powerful.

The shaman decided to hide and be disguised as jews (FALSE JEWS).
In 748 A.D.
they have absolutely genetic denominators with the real Semite Jews. The descendants Israel tribes.

They disguised as jews so they would not have trouble with the north and the south. Eventually Ganus Kahn pushed them out. They then moved to what is now poland and germany. These are the ashkanazi jews that is the worst false jew on earth. They still speak yiddish.

If you look on youtube you will find that they hold all the medias. form the history books to the war video games. Which are intended for hypnotizing people to create war between us. To create violence.

Rothchild was one of the most active guys at developing zionisam. He was the original source of the protocols of zion. The devils bible. They state that they are with the serpent. Read it for yourself and you will not have any more questions.

It will explain to you all what you cannot explain about the crazy world we are in. About the wars the money the food shortage.

Rothschild created just about every war and revolution since the 1700. If you look at who are these ashkanizi jews. Kissinger, Rumsfeild, Rockafellers and all the people that are controlling the media hypnotizing people. They also own the Federal reserve. The government of the U.S. dose not print its own money since 1930.
The protocols of zion existied in several differnet forms since at least the 1700's and were into their final form/shape in 1897 the year of the first zionist world congress where the organizers predicted the creating of the creation Israel state with one year of accuracy. These guys know what they are doing. They work at this undercover they all act as if they are in the right dirction. They meet at their FALSE Jewish meetings. Most of their council on forigen relationships is either Free Masons or Zionists. Zionist control Free Masonary, Skull and Bones, the Builderberg Group.

Baggywrinkle 04-10-2009 03:08 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Czymra (Post 127704)
Sorry but I have to mention this here, I'm always flabberghasted by how similar Yiddish is to German. Go figure...

Der wo ohne Suende ist unter euch,
lasst ihn den ersten Stein schmeissen.


:woot_jump::groupwave::groupwave::woot_jump:

Houston we have contact.

shhh....ruich bleiwscht

THE eXchanger 04-10-2009 03:20 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
what israel don't want you to see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuWO...eature=related


plus they stole the energies of
is - isis
ra
and, el - elohim
and, used it, in their name

THE eXchanger 04-10-2009 03:22 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
what others have to say about jews

part 1 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIQbe...eature=related

THE eXchanger 04-10-2009 03:39 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
part 2 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoeOV...eature=related

777 The Great Work 04-10-2009 03:48 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
HJ i was just trying to aid with the bigger picture. Like Czyrma stated, we have been taught to hate or dislike our fellow man based suppresion of knowledge and conditioning.

The Hebrews Were the Hibiru tribe out of Ethiopia ,which means burnt face. So the whole construct was based on hate and racism from the beginning. Anything to block the masses from sprituality, with these seperatist ideas.

A Zionist is another seperatist group claiming an androgynous state of mind. I on Zero point ,the feminine, and On is angram for the Sun.

Below are some phrases from the book of Revelations, that have been removed fom all new bibles.


Revelations 2:9 "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

Revelations 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."




We communicate every day across time and space, without seeing any faces,knowing anyone's race, or social status, because its irrelevant. We've been taught that these things are important. This type of thinking keeps us in our heads and away from our hearts.

:original:

dagon 04-10-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle (Post 127698)
No.



A question in counterpoint. Does Avalon hate Christians?

Deah vo unni sinda is unnich eich,
loss een da eahst shtay shmeisa


I think rabbit is on the menu this weekend. LOL!!!



hate is a strong word. I try to stay away from that feeling. I have a dislike for organized religion. and I have no hate for people. I dislike what were doing on the planet. I dislike world politics. its rotten to the core. I find the question political not spiritual. we know what we have been told. hate is learned behavior. and is used to divide us. just like organized religion.

THE eXchanger 04-10-2009 04:36 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
part 3 of 3

what others have to say about jews



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGWum...feature=relate


love/susan (the eXchanger)

www.pyrabang.com/go/workingwonders -- get banging !!!

Humble Janitor 04-10-2009 04:52 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial (Post 127727)
Love to all...especially those evil folks working in the dark against their fellow man...they need it the most. :wub2:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/a...1&d=1239375052


Truth?! I don't know. Its my first day. JT

There's a lot of typos in that statement you posted. Otherwise, it's interesting.

Honesty is appreciated here.

Baggywrinkle 04-10-2009 05:40 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dagon (Post 127739)
I think rabbit is on the menu this weekend. LOL!!!



hate is a strong word. I try to stay away from that feeling. I have a dislike for organized religion. and I have no hate for people. I dislike what were doing on the planet. I dislike world politics. its rotten to the core. I find the question political not spiritual. we know what we have been told. hate is learned behavior. and is used to divide us. just like organized religion.

What a relief!, then we abuse everyone equally and are EEO compliant.

un shmeist naett eiyah keshtlichi sacha zu di sei, shunsht doon si's fadredda
mitt di fees un no rumm drayya un eich fareisa

Dantheman62 04-10-2009 06:03 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
http://projectavalon.net/forum/pictu...pictureid=6478

oldpaganfreak 04-10-2009 06:39 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
the concensus here seems obvious.
no, avalon does not hates jews (or christians, for that matter, bw :) )
i certainly don't hate jews, but i have a strong distrust and suspicion of the motives of zionists.
the jews are not a race, they're a religion. period.
as such, they certainly have no 'god given' right to a country, especially when that country is on stolen territory.

and i'd sure like to know what kind of hold israel has over the canadian government.
why does canada blindly and studidly allow israel to run rough shod over anyone else?
for instance, recently, canada would not allow gallagher into canada. he was waiting in washington for the okay to enter. canada is more vehement about defending israel than even the u.s..

so what's up with this?? anyone got any ideas??

Baggywrinkle 04-10-2009 07:36 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak (Post 127774)
the concensus here seems obvious.
no, avalon does not hates jews (or christians, for that matter, bw :) )
i certainly don't hate jews, but i have a strong distrust and suspicion of the motives of zionists.
the jews are not a race, they're a religion. period.
as such, they certainly have no 'god given' right to a country, especially when that country is on stolen territory.

and i'd sure like to know what kind of hold israel has over the canadian government.
why does canada blindly and studidly allow israel to run rough shod over anyone else?
for instance, recently, canada would not allow gallagher into canada. he was waiting in washington for the okay to enter. canada is more vehement about defending israel than even the u.s..

so what's up with this?? anyone got any ideas??

The problem is we are tresspassing on someone elses planet, unless we
want to be chattel. That IS how we are viewed. Goyem!

Jews? Zionists? Wasps? Jesuits? Does it matter? They are killing you with
their greed and lust for power. Useless eaters.

I have an idea that bible prophecy is not prophecy at all. It is a deep
understanding of the nature of man. Destroyed almost to extinction we
will rebuild, greed and lust will prevail bringing us to exactly where we
are closing the circle once again. We believe we are better and different.
We believe we have free will - and we do. Yet we are compelled to express
our nature. Like my chickens in the barnyard, they just do what they do.
Exactly as their ancestors have always done it.

It is just an idea. Allowing you the benefit of doubt that we can
change our condition it must be remembered: you are not enlightened until
everyone is enlightened. If there is one greedy sod with power lust, he
will rule the world and hold the rest of you back from the ascension that
you thirst for. Why is this so? According to the new age doctrine there is
only one. Look into his eyes and you will see yourself.

Put that in your pipe and schmok it!

dagon 04-10-2009 07:39 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle (Post 127760)
What a relief!, then we abuse everyone equally and are EEO compliant.

un shmeist naett eiyah keshtlichi sacha zu di sei, shunsht doon si's fadredda
mitt di fees un no rumm drayya un eich fareisa


so im told...

http://music.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...bumid=10271321
play first song.

oldpaganfreak 04-10-2009 08:01 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle (Post 127784)

It is just an idea. Allowing you the benefit of doubt that we can
change our condition it must be remembered: you are not enlightened until
everyone is enlightened. If there is one greedy sod with power lust, he
will rule the world and hold the rest of you back from the ascension that
you thirst for. Why is this so? According to the new age doctrine there is
only one. Look into his eyes and you will see yourself.

Put that in your pipe and schmok it!

i couldn't agree more. i don't believe that humans can change our nature any more than a tiger can change his stripes.
i do feel that humankind is a virus on the earth, and the sooner we wipe ourselves out, the sooner our earth can begin to heal. i don't think it'sd much of a sacrifice. species go extinct every day. the only extinction that will improve the world is ours!
i hope we can manage it sooner than later.

Czymra 04-10-2009 08:03 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
I believe that resigning over the nature of man is a little harsh of a blow to take. Yes, man might have been violent and greedy over the last thousands of years, and yes, everyone needs to stand above it if we want to 'evolve' but I can much easier align with the idea that man has always been corrupted rather than 'felt the need to express his true self'.

Dantheman62 04-10-2009 08:28 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
This is a broken record thread, six pages and six days later you're still on the same song!
There's no ending. So why is a Lemon yellow? hmmm

oldpaganfreak 04-10-2009 08:33 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle (Post 127784)
The problem is we are tresspassing on someone elses planet, unless we
want to be chattel. That IS how we are viewed. Goyem!


ah, but there is a difference. in 1948, when the allied forces created israel, they actually displaced palestinians from their homes to give them to the new israelis. their country was actually stolen to give it to someone else.
i can see all humans as interlopers on the earth, but actually moving into someone elses home ifollowing the eviction of the homeowner is more serious than that.
also, the fact that this continues to this day, with israeli expansion into rapidly diminishing palestinian territories is the crime against humanity.

dagon 04-10-2009 08:56 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak (Post 127802)
ah, but there is a difference. in 1948, when the allied forces created israel, they actually displaced palestinians from their homes to give them to the new israelis. their country was actually stolen to give it to someone else.
i can see all humans as interlopers on the earth, but actually moving into someone elses home ifollowing the eviction of the homeowner is more serious than that.
also, the fact that this continues to this day, with israeli expansion into rapidly diminishing palestinian territories is the crime against humanity.

didnt the British played a roll in that? its all political. we need a boogieman. we need a bad guy to spin the spin. its all BS. its all created... yes bad things happened. people were thought.. people were molded... lies are told... people are people. and we do what were programmed to do... it all contrived..... spin baby spin...

oldpaganfreak 04-10-2009 09:33 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dagon (Post 127804)
didnt the British played a roll in that? its all political. we need a boogieman. we need a bad guy to spin the spin. its all BS. its all created... yes bad things happened. people were thought.. people were molded... lies are told... people are people. and we do what were programmed to do... it all contrived..... spin baby spin...

yes dagon. the allied forces included england, france, the united states, canada and russia. mainly the brits and the american did this, though.

nivosh 04-11-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eXchanger (Post 127732)
what israel don't want you to see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuWO...eature=related


plus they stole the energies of
is - isis
ra
and, el - elohim
and, used it, in their name

eXchanger, What exactly that video suppose to prove?
That 3 Settelers, Are Idiots And Violante?

Why Do you need to make the connection of every thing to a big conspiracy plot?

This thread smells of ignorance.

you speak the words of hatred and than sign: peace and love...

nivosh 04-11-2009 11:54 AM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak (Post 127802)
ah, but there is a difference. in 1948, when the allied forces created israel, they actually displaced palestinians from their homes to give them to the new israelis. their country was actually stolen to give it to someone else.
i can see all humans as interlopers on the earth, but actually moving into someone elses home ifollowing the eviction of the homeowner is more serious than that.
also, the fact that this continues to this day, with israeli expansion into rapidly diminishing palestinian territories is the crime against humanity.

There is no such thing as: Palestinian's.

This term is a made up term to justify the war that is going on between the arab nations against israel.
look here: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=28222

I live in Israel. in this small (you can cross israel from north to south in about 8 hours driving, and from west to east in about 3 hours) this is the ONLY place we have to live in.

all of you, with your strong idiolagies against the crimes of israel, the so called theft of the lend from the hands of the so called palestinians, have no idea what it's like to actually live here and be subjected on an every day basis to missiles and small bombs that the "humble and week" palestinians are firing at us. you have no idea how it is to live in a place that by law, every restorant, shop, moll, has to place a guard in the entrance in order to check EVERY bag that you carry, in order to minimise suicide bombing attacks.

so please continue in your nonsense bubbling from the ivory tower that you live in.
most of you, i prasume, live in a country large enough for all the gas you produce.

burgundia 04-11-2009 12:02 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nivosh (Post 127984)
There is no such thing as: Palestinian's.

This term is a made up term to justify the war that is going on between the arab nations against israel.
look here: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=28222

I live in Israel. in this small (you can cross israel from north to south in about 8 hours driving, and from west to east in about 3 hours) this is the ONLY place we have to live in.

all of you, with your strong idiolagies against the crimes of israel, the so called theft of the lend from the hands of the so called palestinians, have no idea what it's like to actually live here and be subjected on an every day basis to missiles and small bombs that the "humble and week" palestinians are firing at us. you have no idea how it is to live in a place that by law, every restorant, shop, moll, has to place a guard in the entrance in order to check EVERY bag that you carry, in order to minimise suicide bombing attacks.

so please continue in your nonsense bubbling from the ivory tower that you live in.
most of you, i prasume, live in a country large enough for all the gas you produce.

What do you think about Israel's possible plans to attack Iran? I'd like to know your opinion. You very rarely write any posts here. i think we all would benefit if you presented here your point of view and your knowledge and information regarding different matters.

nivosh 04-11-2009 12:49 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 127986)
What do you think about Israel's possible plans to attack Iran? I'd like to know your opinion. You very rarely write any posts here. i think we all would benefit if you presented here your point of view and your knowledge and information regarding different matters.

Hi burgundia.

I believe That eventualy Israel Will strike Iran.
I think this is a big part of the Grand Scheme.

We now have a preaty right wing government so...

I Think that the us doesn't want a nuclear Iran, and all these so called "peace talks" are just a way to avoid public view.

Maybe Israel will strike Iran, but it will be a joint effort of both the us and Israel. Israel and the us are so close related, as if we where the 51st state of the confederation...

burgundia 04-11-2009 01:45 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nivosh (Post 127992)
Hi burgundia.

I believe That eventualy Israel Will strike Iran.
I think this is a big part of the Grand Scheme.

We now have a preaty right wing government so...

I Think that the us doesn't want a nuclear Iran, and all these so called "peace talks" are just a way to avoid public view.

Maybe Israel will strike Iran, but it will be a joint effort of both the us and Israel. Israel and the us are so close related, as if we where the 51st state of the confederation...

This is obvious and everybody can see that. Tell us more about how ordinary people in israel perceive what is going on and how they are feeling right now.

nivosh 04-11-2009 05:20 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 128002)
This is obvious and everybody can see that. Tell us more about how ordinary people in israel perceive what is going on and how they are feeling right now.

I can tell you that I just came from a huge festival...
I met there a lot of dedicated young people.

There is a true movement of people trying to make a change,
But most of the "ordinary" people are asleep.

The feeling i get is that people want to have peace but in the same breath don't believe there ever will be. not in the near future atleast.

most of us don't believe that the current Palestinians leadership is interested of co leaving in peace.

the Palestinians media is bombarding the peaple of Gaza and west bank with hatred songs and shows against Israel.

The school Books that children there learn from are full of disinformation and hatred. the children are learning to see the west as an enemy, and the war with Israel as an Islamic religious war.

The newspapers and the media are driving fear into the hearts of the sleep sheeps in order to keep the fear level high.

But as there is growing in darkness, there is growing in LiGhT,
and i do believe there is reason for everything.
And a time for it to happen.

THE eXchanger 04-11-2009 11:05 PM

Re: Does Avalon hate Jews?
 
i think, a lot of the problem
is around jews thinking, and, saying
they are the choosen people

i think all people are choosen people

and, i think if 2 people must fight,
than both of them are fools !!!

there is obviously a major problem,
in that part of the world,
and, this part of the world,
that supports your ongoing war with our taxes

haven't both sides lost enough sisters, and, enough brothers ???

when is enough, ENOUGH ???

sooner or later, isn't it better OPTION,
to decide to live side by side,
and, do it, in peace ???

it takes 2 groups to fight -

someone is making a huge business profit off the war

and, everyone over there, is caught right in the middle of it

and, if we don't stop it there, it is, going to spread like a wild fire
all over the globe

geez--people of the world, we can do much better than this !!!

we are supposed to be here, to be pieces of peace

and, yet, until we learn to respect others - will this ever happen ???

i am curious, what do you learn, as, a result of living
right in the middle of a war ???

i find it hard to fathom, why, people find it necessary to do this ???

if i was president of the usa
i'd stop all boats/flights/trades etc.
to that part of the world
and, allow, both sides of this equation
to handle it themselves --
trouble is, if we do that,
the war machine business ends,
and, both sides of the equation, are likely to blow up the world

how sad --when we are suposed to be here,
and, create heaven, on earth !!!
and, have some fun, while eXchanging !!!

i pray for peace - and, hope both sides can figure out
how to settle things, once, and, for all !!!


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