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Hi

Today we had the most milliatary aircraft in the area that I have seen in about 10 years. Lots of chinooks and jets, also so very fast bigger jets.

We had, before it got too dark to photograph, the most chemtrails I have ever seen in the skies here. I had noticed for a few weeks that chinooks have been passing by in the early hours.

Quite strange....

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Hey Ammit , same thing here in Michigan , heaviest I have ever seen , a white satin blanket from horizon to horizon for the past 3 days and still spraying even when the sky is already coated.

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Same here in Kelowna BC... Woke up this morning to blue skies with about 20 lines I could count with 4 planes still going... And now it's completely overcast... :nono:

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Do you have any ideas ? do you want to do anything about it? Ive only become aware of them for about ayear now, INSANE B****X!:lightsabre::wall: Ive just started gathering as much info on them as I can,J Burgermeister has inspired me with her courage and conviction, hoping to meet up with some people in my area soon to get a plan of action together.
Peace & light to you all x
OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER! MARTIN LUTHER KING.

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They are spreying over my house right now!!!

CANADA I DEMAND ACTION!

THIS IS UN-ACCEPTABLE!

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...l/I3010006.jpg

OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER! MARTIN LUTHER KING.

:thumb_yello:

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I feel so happy on the rare days I dont see chems in the sky, how can that be right? Its crazed!:wall: I was chatting to a guy at work explaining and showing him the score, had talked about other deep stuff before and thought he was safe,but he turned round and said that I needed a holiday!:lmfao: makes you feel like an alien :lmao:
But hey I shall keep on exposing the truth:original:

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Mel... I have been trying to expose this atrocity for years only to be ridiculed so my way of dealing with it is moving to a country where this doesn't happen. I am doing so in 2 weeks and can't wait to not have to see this daily or almost daily. One thing I question to those that don't believe is on the days it doesn't happen... "Are the airports closed today???"

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i can tell you that in a small town in Italy where I was a few weeks ago, a town by the sea on the east coast of Italy, they spray 5 days a week, Monday to Friday. In poland where I live they don't spray that often.

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Boy, none up here - and heat over 100. UV too strong at 80. I'm sure this is a rarity. Probably will be more later.

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Hi Angel, where are you moving to? I shall try that line too:thumb_yello:
OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER MARTIN LUTHER KING.

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talking about closed airports....
A few days ago there was an explosion in Majorca. They closed the airport that day.

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Well, these non believers and " Your out of your mind" brigade. I used to be one, still am on certain things I suppose. Dont get me wrong, I am not a debunker I simply like things explained or to see it in front of my eyes.

I dare say I am thought of as a bit of a dreamer, a nutcase with some of the inventions or ideas or beliefs that I had or now have. Lol, I actually have an idea that I have built and is going for CE testing today, People laughed at that one too.

I am not as turned on to all this as many of you seem to be, I do find some topics very heavy reading and hard to understand, but I will always read and listen. My moto is " if you atleast listen , some day, if not all then some parts might be usefull ".

I have my own beliefs, I believe the chemtrails are a way to get to those through the soil who cant be reached through the supermarkets. I have noticed that here atleast we always have lots of rain after a major streaked sky, although it does rain a lot in the UK anyhows.

My garden crops get worse every year. lol, Prob due to chemtrails and other **** in the clouds that feed my plants and potentially feed me.

Ah, sorry for gassing off, I will be quiet now.....


Ammit

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Hi Ammit,
never be quiet! all the best with your invention, let us know how you get on and what it is if you can. Chemtrails are here to f***k with us, been going on since the 1950s. Cant let it get you down though, but I have my moments!! LOL

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I will be moving to Central America where I have yet to see one... It seems it is mainly done in the NATO countries, correct me if I'm wrong.

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:mfr_omg: The same in my father's garden...

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I am totally unconvinced of chem trails. I spent a couple weeks in Newfoundland which is under the flight path to and from Europe so planes are at very high altitudes. with nothing else to watch except the occasional moose I watched as dozens of trails formed and dissipated over several days that i was paying attention. Planes at higher altitudes left a longer lasting trail, lower ones had there trails dissipate in a few minutes and even lower planes left almost nothing (visible) behind.

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/imag...ies/bssign.gif IMHO

Peace

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GaiaLove... We all choose to see what we choose to see, I wish I never noticed!... However just doing a little google search will reveal a MOUNTAIN of information... even on mainstream. History channel did a documentary that was in a thread not so long ago... You may also want to look up 'Don't Talk About The Weather'... or not. I'm not trying to sway your opinion or perception, just throwing it out there so you can make an informed choice on your beliefs :wink2:

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These photos were taken by me.

CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?!

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...l/I3010001.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...l/I3010007.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s.../5I3010015.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...l/I3010003.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s.../6I3010005.jpg


And if you have never seen chem trails I doubt if you have ever seen a sylph going head to head with one. I see Spirit vs. Machine. I wonder WHO will win? SYLPHS - Multidimensional Beings


:mfr_lol:


http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...l/JTsylph1.jpg

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i live in northern alberta and i have never seen a chemtrail either. however i refuse to give the b.s. call.
i'll just consider myself lucky that they don 't spray here.

interesting thought.... i saw an article a while ago about chemtrails being a possible explanation for the disappearance of honey bees.

since something like 90% of the bees in canada are in the peace country of northern alberta, it might explain why they don't spray here. honey production is a major agri-industry here.

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Well, here in Amsterdam they spray as if there's no today, let alone a tomorrow. Sometimes they start very early in the morning (05:00) & on other occasions they spray in sunny weekends, when a lot of people are outdoors. The weather men on tv call them 'vliegtuig sporen' ('airplane trails'). As if they are a normal & natural phenomenon, like contrails. Chemtrails are a non topic pretty much all over the world & yet everybody is affected by them. We all breath the same air, also the 'powers that be' who are behind it.
It seems that the more there is to know about this subject, the less people want to know more. The majority of the population has only one major concern: how to make ends meet. Since the euro was introduced everything became at least twice as expensive & our money had only half the value it used to have.
"No," says our Finance minister, "it just seems that way."
I remember a time when chemtrails were non excistent. So what happened, that they are there nowadays?
If they are as innocent as we are made to believe, why not explaine what they are, why they are there & what they are made of.
I mean, talking about air polution...

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Non-stop spraying in Slovenia and northern Italy, also throughout the night...

(chemtrails lit by the Moon, yesterday.)

http://elnagual.info/avalon/ctm.jpg

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NO REALLY CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE? :) :(

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...l/I3010002.jpg
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...l/I3010008.jpg
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...I3010015-1.jpg

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Chemtrails are not the contrails seen by vapors from high flying planes. Here are chemtrail plane pictures:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...rail_plane.jpg http://www.aliendave.com/files/Photo...plane_150x.jpg

yeh, I know they did little heads in the chemicals, but the pic is a good one.


I have seen them when traveling, but interestingly living in the state capital seems to give us some protection. My guess is the local ptb state senators etc don't like the idea of being sprayed.

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Dear members of this forum, you live all over the planet, please be so kind to, as of now, report chemtrails, every time you see them.

Right now I notice long, white trails all over Amsterdam.

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Has anyone watched 'Don't Talk About the Weather' yet???

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i watched it but i think that providing a link, even if it has been done befor, wouldn't hurt...:original:

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trancoso, I'd be posting everyday for the chemtrails there spraying here in this state, all my guys in the shop that travel for service see them almost everyday, you ever notice when it first starts raining and you run your windshield wipers and there's this **** on your windshield you can't get off, thats this shxt . I was looking at the full moon last night about 4 a.m. and you could see this stuff hazing everywhere. it's nothing new but definately looks like they have stepped up the game on spraying alot more and more frequently.

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This post would get very very long if I posted every day I saw chemtrails... they are a regular occurance here in Essex very close to London...

I think they are dropping the most they can on the high populated areas...

When the sky is clear blue and the weather is blowing from Essex to London...

http://www.xcweather.co.uk/

There are loads in the sky!!!!! I'm sure when it is overcast they are Still doing it... we just can't see it...

Aluminium shields seeds from being DNA activated from the experiments that China did with their seeds (unshielded) vs USA (shielded) in space... USA have aluminium contruction... google china seeds and large fruits and you'll see...

"We" are the seeds they want shielded...

...dropping the immune system and getting toxins or pre-cursor viruses etc into our body is also part of it I'm sure... It is military based from the research I've read... Conscious Media Network presented did a talk on it 2 months ago... I met a lady at Zurich conference who has been researching it for 10 years and sees planes near the alps spraying... off banking 180... spraying... etc

I just wish people would look up :)

I sent out an e-mail approximately 4 months ago with the "weather..." youtube link... only about 2 people replied out of 50... I'm making sure I'm ready... people do not want to know... they are too entrapped in the system to see it...

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They are chembombing out in the East Sussex countryside here a lot, too. Also as Pyrangello states, it's really bad in Michigan and a lot of that is rural and farming land in general.
My garden was hardly worth the effort this year, I saw noticable degeneration of plants after heavy spray days. I'm thinking polytunnels may be the way to go if I want to stay here
It''s very hard to know where there really arent chemtrails though I know Cuba as of last year did not have them.

The chemtrails seem to be good for one thing though, that is seperating the sheeps from the peeps. You simply can not make a sheep see 'em. They turn on you if you try, and believe me, I have been at it for 3 or more long years of trying many different approaches. To be honest, I find it quite shocking anyone on Avalon would not have already seriously researched this issue, it's of such major importance. Some say it is the BIGGEST issue of all , certainly seems to be one of the most covert and compartmentalized.

Hopefully this will all be sorted soon, I think the vaccine issue is going to push things nicely to a head like a big juicy zit... stand well back.

" Don't Talk about the Weather " is excellent for the first few parts but overextends itself with way too much Illuminazi material for the average bear . I liked it, but I would not send it to someone I wanted to introduce to the subject.

BTW, what's with all the fear of fear here? If everything has to be light you are going to really be kept in the dark.
No yin without yang ,gang.

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they do happen here in Central America, but the frequency is dramatically lower. I'll see perhaps 3 single trails a week here as compared to the multilayered tic-tac-toe grids 20-40 in an afternoon I used to see over Los Angeles. And in my experience it is most definitely related to population density, as well as days when more people are outside. The 4th of July 2 years ago in LA was the heaviest I have ever witnessed, followed by Memorial Day weekend. Master Cleanse and perhaps a heavy metal detox can help. Never tried the orgonite chembusters but Ive heard theres been success with those too.

Ultimately, life and natural adaptation will never allow them to succeed. Case in point...

http://www.universalhealingnetwork.c...t/children.htm


Karma's a bitch! :naughty:

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Sword, garden growth is in the toilet here this year too, governor of our state is seeking $$$ from the federal government for relief for the farmers. How Ironic, they create and then give money at low interest loans from the same entity for help. Farmers are all complaining here too.

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that would be a 300+ days a year task then . i vigorously documented chem trails since last summer. i now dont bother unless they are exceptionally heavy or unusual.

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Here's the Part 1 of 27...

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:wall:I wonder why some people wont /cant even get there head around it and do their own research instead of finding it easier to call the messenger a loon:roll1:, I find it frustrating but want to do something about it,plays on my mind nearly everyday,I feel blessed to be continually awakening but want to find the best way for the rest of the world to realise the ******** that is going on with this outrage! Its crazy , I feel peace and joy when they have a day off from cheming my area, cant accept it anymore. Feel like Im being a cop out bynot doing more.
Love & Light to you all.
OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER! MARTIN LUTHER KING :wub2:

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Following a black line in the sky

http://projectavalon.net/forum/pictu...pictureid=6953

http://projectavalon.net/forum/pictu...pictureid=6952

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Ammit I am posting this on behalf of Kulapops

http://users.skynet.be/inesdecastro/121020091706.jpg

I for one have a hard time believing that chemtrails are a sinister 'out-there' plot. I'd love to read a proper scientific explanation as to why some trails evaporate and some don't. However, on the same morning that Ammit posted his thread, I looked out of my window and saw the following trails. That's odd, I thought. Clear sky otherwise, and not only that - I've been up since the dawn for about 10 days straight, and not seen a pattern like that. Thinking it odd, I mentioned it to my friend in Dartington about 10 miles away and they said they had gridwork trails, and so did my parents, at the same time, about 45 miles away. So when I read Ammit's post (near portsmouth) and other's which were all at the same time I thought there must be something going on here.

Either that, or conditions across the south of the UK were good for those patterns. However, I'm not aware of planes normally flying so frequently in a morning or in such patterns. Some one let me know what's going on !

Second thought here is - Are we saying that ALL the pilots of ALL these 'commercial' jets don't know what a normal con trail look like ?? I'd be looking out of my 747's wing mirror and saying "Whoah there Bernie... I think the head gasket's gone... would you look at that smoke ??!!" So is the reasoning that all these pilots KNOW what they're doing ?? And if so, that's just toooooo many people worldwide for there not to be more insider information on this....

Any thoughts ?

Kulapops

P.S. Much love to Mudra for posting this for me in my 'absence' :0)

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Here are some photos of my beautiful view of the sky yesterday!!!

STOP CHEM TRAILS!!! TELL THE TRUTH!!!

:no:

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...I3010007-1.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...I3010008-1.jpg

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Around here, contrails persist longer when there are cirrus clouds. This means atmospheric conditions at the cruising altitude for commercial aircraft are suitable for forming clouds made of ice crystals. On warm clear days, the contrails dissipate rapidly. Jets have been producing contrails for as long as there have been jets. One of the combustion products of jet fuel is water vapor, and that is what becomes the contrail (condensation trail). I find amature analysis of pictures of contrails unconvincing.

The question is whether there is anything extra either in the jet fuel or dispersed via a separate mechanism. If there is a separate mechanism, somehow a tank and pipes must be added to an airplane, the tank must be filled, and the pumps and valves actuated in flight to begin spraying. It is unlikely that a pilot would be unaware of this because significant weight changes would be involved. The process of filling the tanks would be visible at the airport and would require a separate process from filling the fuel tanks.

If something is being added to jet fuel, then somewhere in the delivery chain the material is being mixed into the fuel. This would be difficult, but not impossible to keep secret. Any such material would need to not be damaging to the jet and not affected by high combustion temperatures (this tends to rule out this approach for distributing biological materials). Any airport workers out there who could get a jet fuel sample?

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Taken from wikipedia:
"Contrails are formed when hot humid air from the engines mixes with the surrounding air in the atmosphere which is drier and colder (the mixing is a result of turbulence generated by the jet engine exhaust). The rate at which contrails dissipate is entirely dependent upon weather conditions and altitude. If the atmosphere is near saturation, the contrail may exist for some time. Conversely, if the atmosphere is dry, the contrail will dissipate quickly."

First thing that strikes me about that explanation:

Hot humid air from the engines...I might be wrong here, but as far as I know a jet engine does not add humidity to air unless it is capable of providing an internal source of hydrogen and oxygen to make new water molecules that add to the already existing amount in the surrounding air. Combustion in a jet uses oxygen to fuel the flame, therefore if anything the humidity could possibly be lower on the exhaust side of a jet. [corrected below]

From this, I can agree that a normal contrail is formed by turbulence, much like the wing-contrails. It's a condensation of the water vapour existing in the surrounding air because of pressure drops. More humid air surrounding makes thicker and somewhat longer contrails, but if a pressure drop is the cause of condensation it's logical to me that when the pressure once again stabilize the terms for condensation is eliminated and water will go back to being vapour. Hence it will not be long lasting unless the planes makes a stable pressure drop over time, and that would be a good reason to ground all planes pretty quickly.

I don't think we can get very far what regards the "sheep" though, as I find it rather amusing that when, say, a discussion wether a swine-flu shot is good for you or not arise...the sheepling manage to throw facts from WHO, CDC or whatever other governmental official you might find at the time.
Do they not understand that these are the very organizations in question here? :P

Edit: Did some more research and found kerosene to be hydrocarbons, which means the jet engine do produce H2O and CO2 when it is burned. But even so, I still think the explanation given is flawed regarding as to why some trails stay longer than others. Of course the composition of the jet fuel may contain more hydrogen than carbon, I guess it has something to do with the fuel grade.

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Kulapops... my thoughts: :shocked:
Please take another long look at your photograph. How many equidistant concurrent gridlines in the sky would you need before you start to suspect something is not right? No disrespect intended friend, but you've GOT to be starting to smell something fishy if you're seeing THAT out your window. I recommend a heavy metal cleanse pronto.
Respect, and be well.