Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist
 

Ok....just piecing this stuff together. I am listening to D. Wilcock right now, just listened to Bill Deagles call from last night, and watched the new zeitgesit movie last night.

(btw, links at camelot to these not working...what's up??)

David is saying same stuff. He doesn't like Deagle. Hmm...

I have seen stuff SORT OF similar to Deagle's visions, AND Wilcocks.

My feeling is that it might not be AS severe as Deagles visions, but something for sure is going down.

Also, I'm posting an another thread a message about the Zeitgeist movie.

I agree with David about our "growth process". But something is going to happen.

anybody? what's your take?? Lets talk!

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havent listened to the david thing, but the bill conversation i heard, he was very busy about undrlining it all....i m not sure....but i feel i have my head over water again....

Re: Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist
 

I'm curious what everyone else thinks too. I am in the middle of listening to Bill Deagle's phone call and it's got me worried. Somehow I hope he's wrong. :sad:

Re: Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist
 

David basically says that the ETs won't let any nukes go off. And he says that Deagle just had a bad vision and needed to back it up with evidence.
He also said that he is a public speaker and should have more responsibility on what message he is bringing due to Camelot's popularity.

Because it would spread unnecessary fear to the public.

He also thinks that the NWO is going down.

So it is the complete opposite approach to our future.

That is a main summary.

:thumb_yello:

Re: Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist
 

Bill Deagle strikes me as the kind of person who reads things and then internalizes them.

Like reading the side effects of a medication and suddenly getting the side effects.

Me thinks, Bill has been reading too much GLP, Webbot reports and Timewave zero info.

Nothing happens next week except maybe a minor stock market correction.

As an intuitive myself, Bill feels like he's looking for credibility but carries none of his own.

Bill says his in So Cal. Why isn't he getting the hell outta there? I would have packed up my stuff and family... and called from a cell phone or after I felt safe.

Deagle is a phoney.

Re: Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist
 

I have had Et contact for years now(actually I am told all my life but I don't remember) and I am being told & shown that it was my last chance to stock up, Bush will be bared (saw him running in undies & socks) and just rough seas for a while and then everything will be much better than my life now.
Things are going to get nasty, have seen troops, bombs, battleships.
Also have been told I may have to leave. I am unsure at this point where but am prepared as this info is Always accurate.so much so that my family takes it quite seriously. I do not believe any nukes will be fired, as my ET friends say they are already here and will step in.
I am to look at this as a great adventure, a prerequiste to a golden age
My watchers are tall blondes and I have always felt quite peaceful, safe & protected with them.

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Many people are having trouble believing in what bill deagle said, but what about george green? what about the radio show were some guy says he recieved an email from a UN friend saying he's leaving the uk in october? What about the information david icke got from a traffic warden about being informed of a coming war which will create civil unrest?

Re: Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist
 

I myself am biased regarding this topic as I have followed David Wilcock for several years now and love and respect him more than any other intuitive; his central message being much more positive and his information being so clear, backed up by research and data, for those who haven't read his three recent articles on DivineCosmos.com , please do so.

One of the reasons is that he is centrally grounded in some of the most excellent channeled material ever written: The Law of One.

One of his more central points as to why events will not transpire the way Bill Deagle has said, is that with a full financial collapse followed by a nuclear detonation, and total martial law, would constitute a wholesale shift of planetary consciousness to the negative.

The Law of One material speaks of a "Quarantine" by higher forces, which prevents interference of our planetary "free will" by forces from elsewhere. It opens randomly, and typically allows Positive, or service to other, forces in, because the planet is already slightly negative.

The point is to maintain somewhat of a balance between positive and negative, so that those on earth can choose one of the other. Bill Deagle's series of events would constitute too much of an infringement to be allowed.

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It's just Karma, good or bad, whatever transpires is the exhaustion of imperfections. Souls will be and are placed to buffer negativity and the effects of "negative" karmas upon the earth. But, even a cool breeze stirs up the dust. Reasonable preparedness is a good thing. The Supreme Being is all merciful to the humble. The creation is not broken.

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the thing is many people say that ET's aren't going to allow WW3, yet they have allowed two world wars already. And let's not forget that in the last world war there were two nuclear bombs dropped. I agree that WW3 would be way more catastrophic, but are we being a bit arrogant by saying they will save us? It's hard for me to be able to tell whether they will or not because i simply don't know how they percieve humans, or how they think. We are like ants to them so would they really help such a primitive species? i hope they do.

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Ive also been speaking with a guy that has friends in Florida who told him about four new FEMA camps they had spotted over there. Sumthin is definately afoot. :blink:

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WWII was lost by the Nazis, and they were unable to implement global slavery. Yes, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed but full nuclear war/anarchy never happened. Instead we entered several decades of unprecedented peace, prosperity, and freedom. Any nuclear detonation today would cause complete anarchy, because many countries possess weapons of mass destruction and our supply chain is so fragile.

Especially at this point in time, right before 2012, they won't allow a wholesale enslavement of humanity by the elites. They just won't, it's too much of an infringement on everyone's free will.

As to their view of us, all things are part of the creator and therefore they will maintain our chance to experience a choice-filled life on this earth and see an appropriate end to this age.

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we've been apart of global slavery for centuries, the democratic society is nothing but an illusion. Our spiritual potential has been supressed for a long long time.

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Whether he is right or wrong, I'm loving life and people and processing my own forgiveness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRqJUtqDrbM&feature=related

Re: Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist
 

I watched the Zeitgeist Addendum, heard both interviews, sorting it all out - same as all of you. Something interesting to note are the military exercises being planned for Oct 6 through Oct 16. Wilcock mentioned them in his interview, I found the following link.
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/s...ad.php?t=31005
I started another thread about it - don't mean to muck things up by mixing topics, but this is all part of the puzzle. If you recall, similar exercises were being conducted on 9/11. It certainly makes you think.
Too many things all pointing in the same direction to just dismiss them as fear mongering. If someone shouts "Fire!" - and there is a fire - is that person an alarmist? Or someone who values human life, same as you?

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My feeling is that Dr Bill's message was over-the-top, that is, it didn't ring true to me, but the build up of tensions that seem to be going around, I do feel and experience those occasionally.

Zeitgeist Addendum was good.

I will roll on up to the store for extra provisions in a day or two.

Pray for Peace everybody.

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I am still feeling calm, but let's face it, consider how many people are awake to what is going on around them, just go outside and have a real look at people. I feel something is going to happen if only to wake up people big time, part of that will be the financial melt down, that should get their attention for sure, as far as the nukes go, I still feel the ETs as David said will take care of that. In any case the warriors here need to direct our light to fix this. I ask my soul before I go to sleep to go out communicate with other souls and get things done. What do you think Theresa?

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The Et's are not here to save us, they are here to help us save ourselves.

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I Found This on a forum. Thought it was interesting.

"The latest alert from Half Past Human's predictive linguistics is
pointing towards a major catastrophic event or combination of events around the "hot date" of October 7, 2008:

George Ure says:

"As you know, my worst-case fear about events to come lines up on the notion that says something like "Markets fall apart so much going into October 7th (or so) that we have people starting to awaken in huge numbers to the idea that a long wave cyclical economic depression is unfolding - and that in turn is such a threat to the modern world that event a terrorist attack (false flag or otherwise) is "necessary" to prevent a sudden cascading of runs of banks."

Ostensibly picking up the chatter on radical Islamic blogs, a supposed deep undercover intelligence operative codenamed "Archangel", reports that Islamic terrorists have posted on the Internet certain "Commandments Before The Strike", that are alleged instructions for actions that Muslims are to take regarding an imminent large-scale attack - hints at nuclear - on the United States, specifically New York and Washington DC, slated to take place on October 7, 2008.

Most U. S. intelligence officials dismissed Zarqawi's letter as wishful thinking until Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's second in command, appeared on al-Jazeera, the official television network of Saudi Arabia, to deliver a message to the American people.

In the message, which was broadcast Aug. 8, al-Zawahiri said: "What you have seen, O Americans, in New York and Washington and the losses you are having in Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of the blackouts by your media, are only the losses of the initial clashes. ... You will soon experience horrors that will make you forget the horrors you have encountered in Vietnam."

The al-Qaida chieftain went on to say: "Jihadist forces have been established in all of Western Europe to defend the powerless within the nation. For the crimes that the Crusaders have committed against the Muslims will be reaped by Christians and Jews throughout the Western world."

Zawahiri's video messages are viewed by intelligence officials as telling signs that a terrorist attack is imminent. His televised message Sept. 6, 2004, took place before the December 6, 2004, bombing of the U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, while his message of June 17, 2005, preceded the London bombings.

Concerns about an October attack were heightened even more by reports that the radical Islamic community viewed the ravages of hurricanes Katrina and Rita as signs that Allah was pleased with the plans for "the American Hiroshima."

I dunno what to believe and found wilcocks response puzzling. There is so much other stuff going on outside what the web bot says too. Build up of camps, military police exercises, Stocks teetering over the edge. It looks like a controled demolition of society. The gold market being sucked up by whoever. It certainly doesnt look like the politicians are worried at all on UK media. I dont agree with Wilcock when he says the banks are crumbling. They are merely reajusting for the "New World Financial Order" as PM Gordon Browne stated. Im questioning this new evolution religion too. Im into self responsability and everything but I keep gettin the flashes in the back of my head "Remeber they will interduce a new world religion to accompany the world order". And hearing such things as "We probably wont even feel it when we evolve". I think Id notice if I suddenly shrunk into a 4 foot gray ET. Isnt that what were supposed to look like in the Future?

I appretiate Im only saying this from my own perspective on reality and many of you here have had experiences of your own to conform whats real in your belief systems but Im just confused and baffled beyond belief at this stage. I dunno what to belive. Anyone feel the same?

Re: What about Zeitgeist Addendum?
 

I was actually drawn to this thread because of the reference to Zeitgeist Addendum, which I just completed about 10 min ago. Amazing work. Anyone want to talk about that, particularly the instructions delivered at the end?

Re: Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist
 

Bill may very well be receiving information...but it could be from a negative entity and giving him false information.

Re: Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist
 

we can only speculate about the probable outcomes.....

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As long as humanity gets rid of victim consciousness, and stay centered, there is nothing to fear.

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to be honest I was somewhat disappointed in the new zeitgeist movie, it just seemed like a 2 hour long ad for this Venus Project thing.

the instructions and the project make a lot of sense and everything but still suspicious......

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if your at this forum im surprised you believe terrorists have anything to do with whats going on, they are a scapegoat, and if your hearing anything regarding a "jihad" its because the government wants to put it out before (another) false flag.

personally i have a hard time believing the government would have another terrorist attack, it would seem so obvious even to joe six pack that its too much of a coincidence.

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I think Bill was right on. A little vague with his time-frame, but I highly doubt the man is lying about his visions just to get attention; or spread fear.

Remember, how you interpret his message is what matters. If you think he is just spreading fear by telling people his visions, than you are just a sheep following what the "anti-fear" crowd is saying. The truth is, for people in L.A. his message could have been a God Sent blessing that will save them and their families life. And when he said the stock market would fall 10% in one day, if you would have sold before that day, as a matter of fact, not fear -- you may have saved your retirement.

Personally, what he has taught me is to listen to my intuition and work on interpreting it. And quite frankly, living in L.A. is unintelligent if preservation of your life is one of your top priorities. The quality of air and water alone, not to mention being in a Red Zone for earthquakes is enough to make any smart person get out of the city.

It's easy to just classify him as spreading fear and do nothing. I however found it very empowering. My whole life it feels like I've been "waiting for something" ~ and I know the waiting is almost over on an intuitive level.

Look inside for guidance, and outside for verification and confirmation. Bill has the nerve to say the 'unthinkable' and put into words what some of us are feeling, but just couldn't qualify with words. Kudos Bill.

Adam K.

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I heard Bill and David I think bill needs to calm down . David was right dreams have many symbolic meanings.You can't go around spreading gloom and doom. WE might just have a minnie war of the wrolds.Or like what happened in 1940.Where people killed theresleves over there money .Dreams mean many diffrent things .Its mostly what is going on in your life. Everybody 's a prophet.:insane:

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Exactly. The 19 hijackers did not have box cutters (or the hijacked planes) that could pulverize 110 floors of concrete. They would need DEW, scalar weapons, particle beam, back-engineered alien technology, etc. instead.

Watch Alex Collier - Moon & Mars Lecture part 11 on YouTube and at 1:30, he predicted (back in 1996) that:

New York City will be "in ash", sacrificed by 2000. The power that be already made the decision. "An offering." "Man-made." "An act of terrorism will turn it to ash."

*Here's the link:
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cm...=117&Itemid=51

Start at 1:41 in the video.


http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/images/911demolit.jpghttp://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evid...cs/gzd_050.jpg

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Right now as it stands. These guys have got a bone to pick with the United States and Great Britain.

Be under no illusion. They know exactly what is going on in the western world, they in fact know much more then the average citizen here. They know the governments here are running amok and are fully aware that we are not fully to blame, although they do hold us responsible for our greed our arrogance and our self imposed ignorance.

Although we all know they were not responsible for 9/11 this incident and its concequences have forced them to take action. 9/11 has created these 'freedom fighters' I will not call them terrorists. They are only doing what you and me would do if we had to watch as our cities were blown to bits along with our woman and children.

Iraqi message to the American people.

These guys were not the terrorists before. But now they will retaliate.

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#1 - Maybe the ET's didn't think us dumbass humans were so dumbass as to actually use nukes. Twice. So they weren't paying as close attention then. (Talking out my **** here.)
#2 - Maybe the ET's aren't protecting us because it is my understanding that countries are always testing their nuke weapon technology. I seem to recall something on webpal.org/ki4u.com (forget which but basically the same) about some Chinese nuke test having a fallout cloud spread around the Northern hemisphere back in the '60s/'70s? Can't remember.
#3 - I wish the ET's were there protecting us from nukes, I really, really do.


Assuming, for a moment, this is true, damn someone needs to tell the terrorists about the NWO/Illuminati. It's not us! It's the crazy controllers! We would love to see them taken down too! Somehow though I am sure I am forgetting a detail about how they are funded by NWO types or in cahoots with them or something.

*sigh*

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Assuming, for a moment, this is true, damn someone needs to tell the terrorists about the NWO/Illuminati. It's not us! It's the crazy controllers! We would love to see them taken down too! Somehow though I am sure I am forgetting a detail about how they are funded by NWO types or in cahoots with them or something.

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Yeh, that was that documentary "The Power of Nightmares" it's good-the whole conflict is inflamed and engineered by the puppetmasters. Any time I hear "Al Queda" or the "terrist" I immediately think ah, some propaganda for the trembling herd.
Good to watch for the clues of the narrative they are pushing on us.

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I haven't been able to listen to the BIll Deagle call (it won't play for some reason), but I got the gist of it from what people are posting. Someone said that the ET's won't let it happen, but they let how many wars in history happen before? A ton, why would we suddenly expect them to take care of this? We shouldn't.

Don't forget that the US Air Force "misplaced" nuclear weapons in North Dakota last year, and they still have not been recovered. They are loose somewhere in the US.

Oct 7th is scheduled by web bot to have an earthquake in Vancouver/Seattle area. My friend that lives there says that there is also an over due volcano there that is usually snow capped. Lately the snow has been melting, even now that it is getting colder out. My wife and I were recently in the area and drove over the I-90 bridge to that island (I can't think of the name), but we both had a bad feeling about it. She recalled having a dejavu about that exact bridge collapsing. I believe that will be the main area affected on Oct 7th.

As far as the LA area is concerned, I believe it will someday be destroyed, but I do not think it will be Oct 7th. It will happen somethime in the future, but I am not sure exactly when just yet.

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I've heard the Deagle phone call and listening to Wilcox now. I've read the transcripts and posts about David Icke, Half Past Human, George Green etc

I'm taking all these as perspectives and it's clear that things are happening, but I'm not freaking out. I figure allowing fear and panic to control me won't help one bit, not for planning nor for keeping positive.

That being said, I'm not blind at events unfolding. I'm going to buy silver coins tomorrow since it can't hurt, silver will go up and it's better to invest it than sit in my bank account, waiting to be frozen if things go bad. Gonna take out extra money and buy some extra food.

I'm not going crazy and running for the hills, but being smart and having a plan gives me piece of mind.

Stay positive, don't panic but be smart about it. :bleh:

Re: Bill Deagle's recent call, David W. and new Zeitgeist
 

They nuked the twin towers. Where were the ETs then

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The new zeitgeist movie was excellent, and really drills it home. Perkins, i have read his books, a bit of a herbert, but none the less has inside knowledge, but i still feel he misses the big point and likes to say Economic Hit man a lot! But everyone has something to say. I like the project venus concept, and Jacque Fresco nails it and so does Bill Hicks!!

I'm not into all of these prophecies and dates, its all really misleading, and puts more fear into people, don't hang your hopes and thoughts on all this negativity, and talk from these people (Wilcock, Beagle, Fulford etc). Make the judgments for yourself and do your own research. All of these people have something to say, which is great, but sometimes i think they do like to listen to themselves also. I believe things will happen, i mean its all taking place now, and changes every hour. The world is in fast forward mode. We are only on the tip of the ice berg...........watch zeitgeist addendum.

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Smacker agreed! No need to be crazy, just be aware, and ready in the mind!

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Why does anyone pay any attention to the web bots? He didn't say Oct. 7 earthquake in Seattle. That's for November or December. You really shouldn't give that guy any credance. His bots will read all the responses here, and all this confusion will become part of his next report. So what does that prove? Just that Bill and Kerry contributed to the confusion by posting that Deagle vision, which is just his personal vision, filtered through his personal filters.

This is for the bots: I had a dream in which I was part of a Team of 35 or 40 people. We were under the direction of a coach. As we disbanded he called after us, "Remember, you are glowing balls of golden light." And I looked and saw that indeed we are. :original:

have not listened to Bill Deagle's recent call or David W.- saw Zeitgeist addendum
 

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Try not to patronise me too much ego. Im fully aware that the only terrorists on 9/11 were the NWO gang. This thread I found mentions Nukes. Its irrelivant who delivers em. All Im emulating is it might back up to some extent what Bill is saying.

Its possible Davids spirit guide or whoever the bugger hes talking to up there could be an imposter decieving him in some way. Remember when you dont walk the right path you get, whats the term? "negative greetings" or whatever the new age jargon is. David just seemed very tense the other night. Very snappy at times. I reminded me of that story he told himself about the psykic on the tour bus who was very rude to other people travelling with her and she kept getting negative greetings because she was living double standards and not by her own rules.

Im not havin a go at Dave or anything. Respect the guy immensly. That video in the hilton he done gone nearly dun blew my brain out the top of me noggin!
Im just baffled at the mo. It really feels like theres sumthin comin but who knows such things other than the NWO gang.

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Hi to Theresa and All here,

I could say loads but will keep it to the essentials:

I have my own form of guidance and about a week before this call from Dr Deagle was posted I was told 'there will be a Major Earth Event...before the end of 2008'!

Big Love - One Love - One World - One People

Word Up - PEACE OUT:yikes: