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peaceandlove 10-07-2008 01:06 PM

Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
I posted this in another thread (Whistleblower Testimony) and then realized it might get lost there.

When I listened to Alex Collier's 5/18/2008 1/7 video posted on youtube:

NEW LINK - OLD LINK REMOVED BY USER

(Partial transcription starts at minute 3:00 of part 3/7.)

back in May, I transcribed part of it so I could remind myself and share with others:

More on Alex Collier at: http://stclairzone.ning.com/forum/to...024:Topic:2364

Please enjoy...

MESSAGE FROM THE ANDROMEDANS

Alex says:
"We're already who we (Earthlings) need to be; it's just a question of remembering."

"And in that remembering, it's about letting go, of what we would be perceive as mistakes, of regrets."

He asked Vissaeus ~ Andromedan:
"What's going to happen to us? What is it that you want me to do?"

Vissaeus answers:
"This is how we foresee who you all become."

"Responsible freedom of self-determination becoming truly self-confident and free. To unconditionally be responsible for yourself without being coerced by some other authority."

"The love that you withhold is the pain that you carry lifetime after lifetime."

"In being consciously aware of not choosing to withhold love is an amazing feat and it is not an easy one either."

Alex Collier comments:
"It doesn't always mean that I make the best choices or the right choices."

Vissaeus continues:
"The most necessary action for all of your Terraview races who are aware is to do whatever you are capable of to (eliminate) illuminate your degenerated societies."

(When I first transcribed this I thought he said eliminate and now, listening to it again recently, I think he said illuminate...minute 6:18 of 4/7)

"Consciousness is your scale, it always provides balance, which does not ever fail. It speaks to those who listen and tells them what to do and what not to do. Not to one or all beings who choose to be evolved. The administrators of your government are responsible for professional order, but not your moral codes of order."

"The key to your happiness Terrans is in the hands of your own consciousness. We have perceived that you Terrans have arranged your lives not according to yourselves, but according to others."

"Your disappointments are due to this fact. This kind of conduct of yours is what is limiting your races. Each one of you is a free soul, a free consciousness. No one is the servant or slave of anyone else. Though the hidden ones will trick you to believe otherwise. Mutual respect is imperative for a healed planet and race. Our help is being extended to you if you so want it . Because of your genetic lineages to our races we would like to be there with you during your difficult times. Today your planet and your race destroys itself in ignorance."

"The goal is to recover the genuine human beings lost deep within yourselves."

"And try to always be at one with yourself."

Morenae ~ Andromedan: (1998 ~ He makes reference to December 3, 2013 moving into Fifth Density)
"All of us regardless of our form or our dimensional growth, live in a boundless consciousness. It does appear that all things seem to revolve and evolve in cycles."

"Now after the blindness of 5725 years, you and your Terra are about to regain yourselves. It will be such an unprecedented change that it will be difficult for many to grasp their own potential. It is the turning point on your world which none of your planet's forefathers were privileged to ever experience."

Alex explains:
"In Andromeda one of the things that they stress is creating a race of leaders. In that leadership everyone has a responsibility to not only be a leader themselves but to make a leader of everyone else. And in that, everyone moves together. There may be varying different degrees, but everyone moves together. This is something that they have stressed over and over and over again. They have also stressed being as close to nature as possible."

"We are the only planet, that Alex is aware of, that uses currency. In fact, he had an experience where Morenae and Vissaeus had asked him to try to explain to them why we used money or what they referred to as paper with pictures on it."

"I spent a great deal of time in between contacts putting something together for them. I had a contact and had this opportunity to present this information to them."

"As I was presenting it, I was going through it, I had a paper with me that I was reading it off and had little charts that I had carried in my back pack. Of course they already knew this information since they had been watching our history."

"And when it was all over."

Morenae says:
"Thank you very much I enjoyed it."

Vissaeus just looked at him and had a very straight face and said:
"I don't understand."

Alex says:
"What don't you understand?"

Vissaeus responds:
"I don't understand why you have to pay to live on a planet you were born on?"

Alex says:
"That haunted me for many years, that statement."

Alex continues:
"How do we unravel that? What do we create in order to drop that paradigm? And how do we create it? Who is going to step up and say you know what, we have fought wars over money, we have fought wars over gold, we have fought wars over this and fought wars over that, We have nearly destroyed the planet. We have destroyed species. We're destroying humanity. And it's all over power, wealth and things like that. How do we move from this paradigm to the next paradigm? How do we do it?"

"I know there are a lot of folks trying, making suggestions, talking to people, sharing their perspectives."

"The extraterrestrial civilizations have given up on the governments of the Earth a long time ago. The only ones that are fully integrating with a lot of the Earth's governments you don't really want to know anyway."

"How do we find our soul again? What does it take to change the essence of a man? Is there a phrase? Is there a mantra? Is there a prayer? Is there an event? What does it take to change the essence of a man or a woman?"

"I do not have the answer but I am asking the question and have been for a long time."

"Many of us have completely lost our way. We know a lot of good people who would do anything for us as friends, but they simply don't have a clue. We want them to be aware of the changes that are coming. You can put all this information in front of them and they're simply going to just dismiss it, because it is too overwhelming to them. They have to take it in little bites and little slices. They just simply don't want to deal with it because they are so overwhelmed just trying to manage a life that already doesn't work. Or, they're not already happy with, because it's all that they know and they're afraid to let it go because they don't have anything else to believe in, just what it is that they do every day."

"In creating a new domain of knowing and asking the question, what is it that we want? It has to be something that everybody can take hold of a piece of."

Alex continues:
"For example, every day there are little things that we could do to begin shifting our consciousness. Every day when we get up, the first thing we should do is be grateful that we're alive to see another day. And just make that acknowledgment...Spirit, thank you."

"Always tell your children that you love them. Every day. Tell them that you're proud of them. Always tell your wife that you love her or your partner that you love him or her. Always be friendly and cordial at the office. When you hear an ambulance drive by just say a blessing. Say I bless whoever that's for and that their highest good is what is achieved. Little things like that."

"When you walk into a room, just say I bless this room. Little things like that make all the difference. Because it's conscious intent that every day when you do things like that, those things are easy to do. What you do is you begin to polarize, you begin to magnetize those spaces with your thoughts. And whatever you magnetize and you put out, it will come back, it will be mirrored back to you. That is why Earth is the boot camp for the soul. It's because that's what it does, it mirrors our sh*t back to us. You know, and the more sh*t...the more sh*t. (laughter) And that's why it's so overwhelming after a while."

"So it's little things. Because these are things I've had to try to do and I struggle to remember them every day. These are little things that I can do. I bless my food and bless my coffee. What you do is just get into a space of blessing everything and it does in fact change the frequency. It will change the people that you work with. It might take a little while. But these are simple things; just little things that you can remember to do every day. At lunch time go for a walk, don't just sit in your cubicle, go outside. If you have to go to the bathroom, don't go right back to your cubicle, go outside make a loop around the building. Give yourself a break, just remember where you are. Don't get stuck in just being so in a rut that you forget. Because it's easy. That's why we're so stuck on Earth."

"The extraterrestrials, the visitations, the psychic phenomena, the paranormal phenomena. All of that stuff is us. It's all happening to us because it is us. These are all reminders of who we are. All we have to do is get out of our own way."

With Peace and Love in Mind,
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Avid 10-07-2008 02:14 PM

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Thank you for this :)

uboslav 10-07-2008 04:16 PM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
Thanks very much for posting this. Alex does seem like a sincere individual. There is some very interesting information in his book aswell. "defending sacred ground"

MusicLover 10-07-2008 05:28 PM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
I don't mean to be a jerk but is there ANY proof to anything he says.There are alot of people talking about stuff but how much of it is true.I thought he was very sincere as well but that still doesn't cut it.A good conman will fool the smartest of people.I am not calling him a conman but I am just curious why people believe him without proof.
Does not a good lie start by believing it yourself??

Shechaiyah 10-07-2008 05:39 PM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
I have Collier's 1994 FUNDAMENTAL KNOWLEDGE tape--

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92185126189734

which is a historical record.

His site reflects the deceit and perfidy that my site catalogues also.

"The New World Order is an ALIEN AGENDA," struck me as too True to be obvious to those who watching television all the time.


Shech--
Edited to add comments.

MusicLover 10-07-2008 06:45 PM

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How is it historical record??I saw this interview and he just seems like a reg nice guy but with NO PROOF!!!Having stuff on a site doesn't make it true.
All I am asking is WHY do people believe someone who just tells them stuff...Can he not get a pic of some sort or anything at all to back up what he is saying.

sunnyrap 10-07-2008 06:57 PM

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Not that I don't agree somewhat with your question--I get frustrated to the nines because there never seems to be any pictures of the stuff these contactees talk about--at best, fuzzy, your-guess-is-as-good-as mine shots... However, we accept eyewitness testimony and circumstantial evidence in our courts of law as valid proof, why not in his case?

What I am hearing/seeing more and more is that these more highly advanced beings exist on other planes of energy/dimensions/(insert indecipherable physics quote here), so pictures can't really capture their image, only our consciousness can, if we happened to be tuned into their 'frequency'--probably with their help. This makes a certain amount of sense when you consider that animals can hear sounds we can't, others can see heat/energy signatures that we can't. In fact, our technology and our senses are just geared to our narrow band of frequencies.

I read a passage allegedly transcribed from one of the 'greys' in which it commented that their skin color wasn't really grey, but a color our eyes couldn't see because it was outside the violet-to-yellow band we're aware of and built to see....so the color just registers as 'grey' to our eyes. We'd just have to take its word for it, wouldn't we?

Mike_Jetson 10-07-2008 07:43 PM

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Anyone who runs around looking for solid proof wont see it until they experience it. If the solid proof that you want was available then you wouldnt need to go looking as it would become standard truth very quickly

MusicLover 10-07-2008 09:33 PM

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good point

Shechaiyah 10-07-2008 09:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MusicLover (Post 42529)
How is it historical record??

I saw this interview and he just seems like a reg nice guy but with NO PROOF!!!Having stuff on a site doesn't make it true. All I am asking is WHY do people believe someone who just tells them stuff...Can he not get a pic of some sort or anything at all to back up what he is saying.

QUERY:
How it is a historical record?


It is a very complete summary of what cooper, hoagland, salla, burisch and the whole ET/UFO community has been telling us for decades.

He does an excellent job of integrating the micro and the macro. He's a good history teacher because he uses summaries frequently to help the listener navigated through such a huge knowledge base.

As a teacher, I'm impressed with his delivery and outline.


Shech--

spiritual_wanderer 10-07-2008 09:42 PM

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I watched the q1994 interview with him:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92185126189734

and really liked it.

For me, it's not so much having proof of anything. It's more about just listening, and if I feel resonance with it, I take something away. If not, I just move on.

I've never listened to one single person talk of their experiences and said to myself, "Wow, this is it, now I know 100%!" I will probably always have a little doubt, but the possibilities will always remain and I will always keep an open mind.

There must be a reason I am drawn to all this stuff.

uboslav 10-07-2008 09:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike_Jetson (Post 42632)
Anyone who runs around looking for solid proof wont see it until they experience it. If the solid proof that you want was available then you wouldnt need to go looking as it would become standard truth very quickly

We are conditioned to accept only things that "science" can prove. It's time for people to start searching for answers within themselves because it is a little bit obvious that we cannot trust the things that have been hammered into our brains by the media, our school systems and our so called authorities.

There is alot more to what is going on than what we are told. What is proof? Is proof when a "teacher", or "expert" or "news anchor" says so? What sort of proof are u people looking for?

People are conditioned to a level that is almost frightening. I truly feel for Alex Collier and thank him for having the courage to stand up against an army of conditioned people and offer his knowledge and experiences.

MusicLover 10-07-2008 10:01 PM

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Hoaglund has proof in pics and logic...Cooper was a bit of an embellisher and Salle I don't know of and Burisch I would love to believe but I think in the ufo community there are a third of people with facts a third with no facts and a story and another third that are just plain lying.How can anybody just openly accept what they are told??

MusicLover 10-07-2008 10:02 PM

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Now I'll shuddup!!!:original:

AlexTony 10-08-2008 01:34 AM

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Thanks for sharing the A.Collier data

jimbo83478 10-08-2008 04:04 AM

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Fantastic! Thanks so much for posting this!

watchZEITGEISTnow 10-08-2008 12:51 PM

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Alex is awesome.

I love the guy, and love his talks.

:)

Z

Indiana jones 10-08-2008 01:23 PM

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Alex collier letters from andromeda was published in nexus magazine ten years ago.Great read but none of the information presented came to light.He gave time dates which came and passed another false dawn.Maybe were more brainwashed then the masses?Tired of the ******** the regressive steped into our timeline without asking 99% of the population so why can't the light beings step in to balance the books?

watchZEITGEISTnow 10-08-2008 11:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Indiana jones (Post 43788)
Alex collier letters from andromeda was published in nexus magazine ten years ago.Great read but none of the information presented came to light.He gave time dates which came and passed another false dawn.Maybe were more brainwashed then the masses?Tired of the ******** the regressive steped into our timeline without asking 99% of the population so why can't the light beings step in to balance the books?

That's exactly what i think... I mean if we were already manipulated by ETs in a negative way, I would have thought the powers of love would thrown some more balance our way via some 'good guy ET' intervention. But then again maybe this will happen, afterall, things seem to be getting a bit nuts lately. I think crisis calls for humour by the way. That's my tip on how to survive the madness that may or may not happen.

But yeah A's seem to keep pretty quiet compared to the P's and the real Z's (not the garden cloned variety). I also imagine there are more ET races out there that have probably been here, but have yet to be discovered. Perhaps they are a bit afraid of us, I mean we don't exactly have a great record for loving our planet, let alone ourselves. Here's hoping.

Z

peaceandlove 10-09-2008 05:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MusicLover (Post 42529)
Quote:

All I am asking is WHY do people believe someone who just tells them stuff...Can he not get a pic of some sort or anything at all to back up what he is saying?


John Hogue was a guest on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory last night.
After viewing your post and reading his prediction here, I understood.

THE AGE OF BELIEF ENDS


PREDICTION: "After 2008, it will not be enough merely to "believe" something. People will feel the first stirrings of wanting "to know" something is true, first hand, about themselves, their world, and the mystery of existence. They do this guided by feeling the new dispensation of history that is the coming Aquarian Age."



More Predictions Posted @ Project Avalon Forum, Visions of the Future.

Also http://hogueprophecy.com/predictions2008.htm

Interesting topic on left side of his webpage: Who is MABUS?





:band: Pleeeased to meet you :band:can you guess my naaime?:band:


Elephant Man 10-23-2008 10:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peaceandlove (Post 44897)

John Hogue was a guest on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory last night.
After viewing your post and reading his prediction here, I understood.

THE AGE OF BELIEF ENDS


PREDICTION: "After 2008, it will not be enough merely to "believe" something. People will feel the first stirrings of wanting "to know" something is true, first hand, about themselves, their world, and the mystery of existence. They do this guided by feeling the new dispensation of history that is the coming Aquarian Age."



More Predictions Posted @ Project Avalon Forum, Visions of the Future.

Also hogueprophecy.com/predictions2008.htm

Interesting topic on left side of his webpage: Who is MABUS?





:band: Pleeeased to meet you :band:can you guess my naaime?:band:


Nice :original:

Northern Boy 11-23-2008 07:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MusicLover (Post 42398)
I don't mean to be a jerk but is there ANY proof to anything he says.There are alot of people talking about stuff but how much of it is true.I thought he was very sincere as well but that still doesn't cut it.A good conman will fool the smartest of people.I am not calling him a conman but I am just curious why people believe him without proof.
Does not a good lie start by believing it yourself??

When I first got into this I was researching the Twin Towers and i watched his lectures on You tube and it was his lectures that caused me to really open my eyes if I hadn`t seen any of his stuff I don`t think I`d be writing or having anything to do with this stuff right now

piers2210 11-25-2008 09:46 AM

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Perfect words that you have transcribed..glad to have read it...after years of working at the sharp end of industry where if you mention any of this stuff you'd have people trying to get you admitted to the funny farm or at minimum an interview with head of human resources...its time for people to understand that what is transcribed here is the way we should live. I left industry because i couldn't take the energy produced in a building by so many lost souls.

Northern Boy 05-02-2009 03:32 PM

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This is the latest from Alex collier an interview from April 9th 2009
It seems the message has changed some what since his last interview


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiOYMsUTNfY



Number 1 of 12

feeler 05-02-2009 04:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Boy (Post 85500)
When I first got into this I was researching the Twin Towers and i watched his lectures on You tube and it was his lectures that caused me to really open my eyes if I hadn`t seen any of his stuff I don`t think I`d be writing or having anything to do with this stuff right now

Indeed. Alex's anticipation was verified. In regards to Alex's anticipated natural disaster, years later, we learn from Nassim Haramein that "We shouldn't be here. We were given a second chance. We're floating in grace and 'somebody' is taking care of us" - in referring to the absence of the natural disaster and the visit of the Nibiru comet.

Watch Alex Collier - Moon & Mars Lecture part 11 on YouTube and at 1:30, he predicted (back in 1/ 8/1996) that:
New York City will be "in ash", sacrificed by 2000. The power that be already made the decision. "An offering." "Man-made." "An act of terrorism will turn it to ash."
*Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHC8InRZqKI
Start at 1:41 in the video.

Thank you thank you thank you to Alex Collier.

-feeler

Northern Boy 05-02-2009 07:28 PM

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he explained that there has been an intervention about some of these things that were going to happen in his new Interview

Lionhawk 09-25-2009 08:36 PM

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Greetings everyone!

"Houston, we have a problem." It's a simple problem. One that has plagued this Planet for eons. The problem is common sense. The inability or the refusal to apply it. It always comes down to choice.

Everywhere I go, there is this common theme where the searcher is demanding proof of the material being presented. The searcher finds himself in a paradox. A paradox in which is a trap that can create so much confusion, disharmony, fear, etc...... The searcher lashes out trying to free himself from the bonds that are now in control of him. It is a natural phenomena to watch. Kind of like a trapped animal trying to free himself out of the trap. When you approach the animal he goes nuts. He will try to bite you, scream at you and so on. I have seen this countless times and it seems that it all could have been prevented if common sense was applied in the first place.

What I usually find is that some basic principles have usually been over looked or have been programmed into an individual. Usually the individual doesn't know it till it is to late. So what I am going to do here is to try in the simplest way that I can to explain it. Mind you that what I am about to explain is something I had to learn because I was one of those who found himself in that paradox. Guilty as charged.

There a two basic types of information we experience. First hand and second hand. It's that simple. The first hand is about knowing. The second hand is about believing. Big difference. Again it comes down to choice as to how we engage that and what we want to learn.

Knowing is first hand because you experience it. It is also vertical in dynamics as it also connects to the source. When you experience something you experience it on all of your levels. All of your soul in other words. Everything from the emotional body to even thought.
Your being. When you know, you know. It isn't an argument. Knowing is also the process of proving it. To know is to have proven it in other words. Knowing comes from within.

Now we will go south from there and talk about believing. Believing is horizontal in nature and isn't connected to the source. Anything outside of your being is second hand. All media formats which include radio, TV, books, Internet, gossip, or if anyone says anything to you. Which includes this posting. Beliefs are not proven. They are speculations of the mind. Or maybe your hopes from your emotional body. Not from your heart because your heart already knows. Beliefs are the fly paper. The very fly paper that traps you. Beliefs are also used as a tool to create fear, doubts, confusion, wars, death, etc..... Just look at history and you will see that countless have died in the name of some belief. The darkside uses beliefs to control us. They use our school system to program us to seek information outside of ourselves. It isn't about what great things you think your are learning. It is about making sure that you seek outside yourself so that you never realize that the real truth is already within you. So when you see a top A+ student, remember that he is very proficient at seeking information outside of himself. Also consider that the current knowledge is at base level 0. So the knowledge here isn't where it really should be, because of the level. The darkside don't care about that. For them it is about how they can control you and keep you stupid and dis-empowered so they can also feed off the negative energies that you give off when you are in that believing mode. The darkside have been preying upon us in so many ways.

Not to be a bible thump er here, but Jesus said to find the truth one must go within and not without. Without, being the outside of self. Why have so many ignored something so simple and true? The ignorance is what is going to kill us all if we don't reverse our thinking processes and go within and discover who we really are, and empower ourselves.

You want proof, then go within and find it. If you are to lazy and don't want to do some work to reverse what has been programmed into you, then continue in ignorance, because that is the bottom line. This is where one must take complete responsibility for one's self. Please don't take this personal either as it isn't about your emotional body. I'm just stating what I have learned but everyone must not believe a thing I have said. Do it in the first hand. Know yourself by going within. Prove it and get off the horse you call Entitlement.

Anyone who is a whistle blower can only share what their path has been and what experiences they have endured. As with myself, I don't have to prove anything. Nor should anyone else have to. If you connect yourself within, you will discover that all knowledge is shared in the Template of One. You can tap into this knowledge and it is freely given unconditionally. It is already there within you. So why does one seek outside himself for the truth or a truth? Maybe he finds something he may learn through the eyes of others, a possibility. But when you discover that possibility and don't prove it to yourself, what are you doing? Just complaining because you think your are entitled to it. When you skip over the basic lessons, what do you expect? Perfection? Never going to happen and all one ends up doing is compromising himself. Just like the animal in the trap.

If one is on the path of believing, he will have to constantly repeat his incarnations. That is what it means to wake up, to realize what you are doing to yourself and all of your years and to finally realize you have to reverse that process. Just look behind you and see all the baggage one has created for themselves because they subscribed to a belief. Plus all the karmic debt added to that by doing everything in the second hand. Do I have to mention common sense at this point? In what ever we choose to do with these basics is something that comes down to choice. You choose what serves your higher self, but at least have some guts to prove it to yourself in the first hand. Everything else is just a compromise.

Mind you I am not a bible thump er, but Jesus also said to test all things. Meaning to prove it out yourself. What you will find is that some of the most powerful things that are ever said only have a few words in a sentence. Another saying I enjoy is the one where knowledge is at one single point and only the foolish multiply it. In other words it is really simple. We only complicate it.

I hope no one took offense to this posting, as I am only sharing what I know and I can only hope it helps shed some light on why this type of debunking really has no valid foundation. Simply because it is based in the second hand. I also find such tactics used by various agencies. Not saying anyone here is from one of those, because it no longer matters if you are or not. I'm sure we all have run across it somewhere though. But they also use this tactic to keep you stuck on the fly paper.

Enough said and God Bless!

orthodoxymoron 09-25-2009 09:02 PM

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Another great post Lionhawk. What do you think about Alex Collier? Is what he says about the reptilians correct?

I don't want to believe. I want to know. However...sometimes one has to believe it...in order to see it. Sometimes one has to visualize a hypothesis...and then create a body of knowledge based upon facts and evidence...which turns faith into sight.

I believe...that I'll have another drink. Actually...I've never had a drink in my life...but I've promised to have a drink with Lucifer...after he or she retires.

14 Chakras 09-25-2009 09:50 PM

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Ortho (or anyone else),

What does Alex Collier say about the reptilians and greys? Can you summarize? (just curious)

TRANCOSO 09-25-2009 09:52 PM

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I like Alex Collier. He seems sincere & has a positive 'vibe'. Also he's not an ego tripper.

mntruthseeker 09-25-2009 10:46 PM

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Lionhawk,


I do agree we have to go within but in order to learn the truth.

If we didn't listen to Alex or Jordan or others, how else would these show up as thoughts to us ?


When I look at a chair, I see a chair and the thought enters my mind, but I could look all day and never see what they did or know how to begin.

Lionhawk 09-26-2009 05:02 AM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
What do I think about Alex Collier?

He knows a lot more than he has revealed. I didn't know this guy was even out there as I have been so busy doing the do, along with staying away from second hand information. It wasn't till a few months ago when I went with a gut response to check out a link posted by another that led to the Disclosure Project of 2001. That was 3 months ago. Since then I have watched many interviews produced by Bill and Kerry. That also led to others such as Alex Collier and others in the field.

Alex is not a fraud from everything I have seen. His paradox is one where he is constantly trying to balance out the love for his family vs. his work to get the word out. It is very real as to the threats he is faced with everyday. I am just using him as an example as many others out there face these threats as well. Another thing that stands out is the fact what many of these light warriors do not charge or exploit money. That is key with anything spiritual. The ones who understand that the spirit is priceless are the ones who "GET IT." Even the ones who write books, for the most part would love to just give it away, but there are costs to cover for publishing and materials. As long as it is within reason. You still also have to go out and prove this material for yourself no matter what you paid for it.
I have met only a few who do not charge for services rendered.

The persecution is another topic that I would like to touch on. There is no need for it. It only shows the character of the person persecuting. Especially the strong willed skeptic. Even when you show the proof, they don't want to admit they were wrong in their assessments. The best result one could ever hope for with a skeptic is that he doesn't disbelieve you. Here we again find ourselves tangled in that second hand again. But the truth is that you have proven it for yourself and that is what matters. It isn't about proving it to others. You present the information and it is up to the ones subscribing to it, to prove it to themselves. There is nothing wrong with having a skeptical attitude. But it is another to not go out and prove it as well. If you are a believer, you surely will be manipulated. I can't speak for anyone here, but for me, I figure I have the right to know the truth and at the same time I am willing to prove it. Another thing that is very tricky here is when you present your work or material to the masses. More often than not because of awareness issues, you open the door for any comment under the Sun. It is where you have increased your awareness and realize how little you actually do know. At the same time there is room for the growth of that knowledge because your awareness has expanded. It is infinite. Even God will tell you, that he doesn't know it all. That is profound when you think about that.

Another issue that many seem to get to focused on is the dates of when certain events will occur. Alex gave some dates in his presentations. He was also persecuted for those dates. The events didn't exactly land on those dates or didn't happen. How many times have we seen this across the board? Expectations run very high with this. But what it comes down to is what is called the Field of Potential. A field consisting of all the probabilities, possibilities, ideas, thoughts, and so on. It works like a cloud in the sky. The cloud gathers energy in the form of moisture. The cloud expands, changes shape, gets heavier. When it has reached a certain potential, the manifestation of rain occurs. This is simplistic but the mechanics work the same way with this field. The time when this occurs is never fixed. The time being the date. Other factors are also influencing this, such as wind, temperature, etc. So when Alex or any one presents a date, it is at that time he says it, that the field of potential has been measured. That measurement can change in the very next second. The longer the time period the more of the fluctuations will be manifested or not. Such as watching a cloud disappearing before our eyes. Sometimes it doesn't happen and that is across the board. LA is still there, but one must also realize that the potential for this to occur is still probable. It just hasn't happened yet. Now stand back and look at this again. As humans we often become to focused onto something. Anything.

It is with a great hope that we can do anything we can to help anyone sticking their necks out to expose the truth. We must break the chains that bind us.

On the issue of what Alex speaks on as far as the Reptilians, is a scary subject. Alex has held his breathe and has held information back. I don't blame him there either. These creatures are our rulers and I know Alex was debating with himself as to reveal any of it to the public because he knew how people might react to it. In other words people aren't ready to handle the truth because it isn't pretty. There is nothing here that is sugar coated. As to what he has revealed, it wasn't the complete picture but he left enough clues to bring it to your awareness that this has been going on right under our noses all this time.

Did you take the red pill or the blue one?

Now based on one of the clues he spoke of, I have been personally investigating the rumor of these things being dumped here in our Galaxy. I am calling it a rumor since I haven't proven this as of yet. But because of the clue he left behind, I have decided to get to the bottom of it. Let's just say for the sake of argument that what Alex says is correct about these things being dumped here in our Galaxy from another Galaxy through the black hole in our Milky Way. Then what happened next was the Great Galactic War that lasted for about 700,000 years. In this war were two major factions. This got my attention as I know I was in this war in a past incarnation. I'm just scratching the surface here. To top it off, one of my friends that I have been working with, was also in this war. She was a Draconian Fleet Commander. My enemy in this war. Now her and I are working on this right now in cooperation. I would like to skip the details as to our association but she turned and came to the light side. This also ties into Billy Meier. For that matter it is all interconnected but we have only seen a glimpse of this picture. Let me give you some missing pieces.

In 2003, I was astrally brought before Billy Meier. I was to be tested. Billy was there to just make sure that my human side didn't react in a freak out way. Billy also had some company. 3 beings who I had assumed to be Plejaren. These beings as it turned out were not Plejaren but were working with them. I know what a Plejaren looks like and these 3 didn't even come close to the description of a Plejaren. They were a likeness to goblins. Short around 4.5' with pure black robes accompanied with hoods. I never saw any of their faces. But they weren't evil. That much I knew. I was in a room that was very simple with openings that accessed this room. Simple chairs and table were the main furniture in the room where I was in. These goblins stayed in the shadows as there was only a dim light in the room. The test was to see of I could reveal the Devine Spark within me. When I revealed it, an intense light burst forth. It was at that moment that these goblins ducked for cover into the other rooms that accessed the room I was in. I was then informed that they would present the results to a council where the Plejaren home world was located. There was no future date as a return for a follow up. As they were about to return me, they also presented me with a gift. The gift that was given to me was for validation purposes of this experience. This being said, I haven't seen or heard from them since. Now here it is about a month ago, and my friend tells me that she was working with one of her friends on a Plejaren presentation and points out these shadows in the background of the video they taped. She asks me if I could see them as she could. Well, I had to tell her the story with Billy and she concurred as to my descriptions.

Here is what I possibly think in the now. That these goblins are the gatekeepers to the black hole. They are like agents. The energy signatures line up to this. Now think about when Alex speaks about these Reptoids being dumped here in our Galaxy. Who dumped them here is what I want to know? Who on the other side of this black hole had the power to do that? These things they dumped here are so formidable. What right did they have to do that? How did they do that? Does karma come into play here as well? What else are they dumping here? If you have any physic abilities, feel free to join me in getting to the bottom of this. Also I have speculated that the time and date of the 2012 is important. Does it mean that the black hole will reverse it's polarity and something else might come through. Is that why these Reptoids are winding things up on our Planet because they fear something far greater is coming. Like maybe their jailers from the other side of the black hole? Right now my friend and I are the only ones I know that have discovered these goblins are going to try to establish contact with them to get the scoop on what is happening. We know that they are working with the Plejarens. Who else are they working with? What does Alex know about this or the Andromeda society that they haven't told us.
We do need help with this issue as I see it. We are out gunned, out manned, out smarted, and so on. In around Spring of 2004, a ship was dispatched to Antarctica. What was on this ship was an army of these Reptilians. Their version of a Navy Seal type. They have brought their own supplies. Does this mean we are also on the brink of another galactic war? Another thought here is why do you think the other good ETs out there are not having an open dialogue on a Planetary scale, sneaking around helping us out in the shadows. I will tell you why. Some of them are fearful of these creatures as well and know full well from their living memory what that 700,000 year war was like.

In 2005 a gathering of a few light warriors performed their duty. That gathering disrupted the darkside's agenda big time. It was quiet for about 6 months but we knew they were regrouping. This gathering only bought us some time. There was also no loss of life on our side. That was a switch for a change. But since then, the dark have pulled all the stops are squeezing the life out of everything they have attached themselves to. Their ranks and hierarchy have been rearranged. Lucifer is no more, but then again he was replaced by another dark one who now leads his minions. What's the difference?

Namaste'

peaceandlove 09-26-2009 05:22 AM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
After listening to Alex Collier speak at Awake and Aware I would like to add his inspiring words...

(Regarding: How Alex was mentored by the Andromedans. ~ Kerry Question 1:11:00)
VIDEO: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2197767

ALEX COLLIER ~ Awake and Aware Excerpt:

1:12:00 "Know that my mentoring has gone on with times that I have literally been kicking and screaming. The biggest portion of the mentoring has really been why do I believe things and what is it that I believe?

So a lot of times the question will come...I will ask question or I will have a perspective and they will immediately come back and say, "Well why do you believe that?, What is your process of believing that's true?. And for example religions, it was one of the biggest things I had when I was a kid and it was an issue that my father brought up too, when I told him about this.

1:13:00 We have formed perceptions of reality that are not based in reality, they're only based on perception. Now in accepting that perception as reality, what we do is, we reinforce that illusion and that's what we have done on Earth, is we have reinforced the illusion about who we are...about our strengths, about our power, about how we're supposed to live on the Earth, about being stuck on the Earth, about how we are supposed to raise our children. We have bought into these perceptions.

The hardest things were to really look at myself and this is really where the work is...and its always with yourself.

1:14:00 The most difficult work has probably been for me in the last 5, 6, 7 years. Questions like...well, Who am I?. They don't answer it, they don't say well you're this and this and this, but what they do is they have guided me to who it is that I want to be.

The first was understanding that you are not just a physicality. That's the first thing to grasp, you are not a physicality.

And just like some of the speakers said yesterday, I believe it was Mr. Green who talked about...you know, there is a soul and it's 22 grams, I think they measured that in body weight. That is really who you are; and connecting to who that person really is, what that essence is all about, you begin to realize..."Oh My God", I am not at all who I thought I was.

And I'm purposefully being vague because I don't necessarily want to tell you who I am, other than to say that who I am here on Earth in this lifetime and the mistakes that I have made, on some level I knew better not to make those mistakes...OK, but we do, we do, we experiment, we create.

As far as the meaning of life, they would never tell me what that was exactly. All they would say is you are creating your own adventure. OK, so again the responsiblity is on me.

1:16:00 As far as mentoring, to want to talk and to speak...the idea was to keep it very, very simple, to just share their perspectives and let the people do whatever they want with it. And it doesn't matter whether anyone believes it or not. People know truth, people know bull shif (sp? lol).

Eventually it all comes to the surface...it has too. Because all of you are just like me. Because you all know better, you know what's real. It's just a question of detaching ourselves from our addiction to physicality. And that's what it is now, it's become an addiction, because the focus is on the physicality. We're not objective anymore. As a soul, when you have an out of body experience and you detach from your physical form, you are completely objective. You have a 360 degree peripheral view OK, and that's because you're objective, you're not addicted, you're not stuck in the body or addicted to the body.

And that's the part they have been working on with me the most, is to actually feel and know that essence of myself as much as possible. So when we talk about mentoring, the mentoring is to get ourselves from where we are here, to self-empowerment. That's what I'm talking about. Once we have achieved self-empowerment, and it won't take long folks, it really won't take long...we will know exactly what to do because we are spiritual beings, we are eternal, there is no age to us.

1:18:00 And that's not a metaphysical blind, that is a reality.

So the mentoring is to help us move out of our addiction to physicality into full power as spiritual beings. And it isn't full of dogma, it isn't any of that.

It's all about introspection.

Voluntary introspection.

That's what it is!"



Transcription is tricky. The punctuation is probably not properly placed per my perception! :naughty:

Lionhawk 10-02-2009 09:50 AM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
At least I did receive the information last night that I have waited on for almost a month. It concerns these Black Hole agents that I have run into.

This is pertinent to what Alex as saying about the Reptilians being dumped here. These agents as I refer to them, are also what is term as gate keepers.

My contact stated this last night:

"This is also my best friend that just was here and she and I talked about our goblin friends. It was her gathering where they showed up and she remembered them well. We both put our heads together, compared notes, and we came up with the following:

These beings are gate (black hole included) keepers. They are the ushers of information and are guardians to what is brought through. What’s strange is that it’s not all information. They are mostly concerned and in charge of geometric, scientific, shift and mathematical matters. I agree with you that they are of 11th dimension/density and I am going to stand by my hypothesis that they are actually ‘here but not here’. They only see through matters of knowledge and information to keep record and monitor what is being brought out. As far as I can tell, they are not ones who have direct involvement with downloaded information to people. Again, they are more like management and at the same time just general ‘keepers’ and record holders. I have a sneaky suspicion that they are going to be showing up more and more. I really hope the white lighters don’t do a witch hunt on them (that would suck). Hope everything I wrote makes sense. "

I am just sharing this. It only confirms my suspicions at this point. I am attempting to make contact and I know they have received that request. Hopefully more will come through in the future.

The gathering that her best friend had was like a Plejaren seminar, I think. These Goblin types were present at that seminar. Now maybe some of you can use your abilities to see them as well. I will hunt down a video I watched recently and post it with the purposes of you the viewer, to see if you can pick up on this.


I am not a subscriber to a lot of this stuff, but these Goblin types are in this video. See if you can pick up on it.

What I have surmised is that they have a lot of answers. My friend who was only there to assist her friend with this gathering stated that they came and were there for about 30 minutes. Where upon her friend started talking about scientific material from who knows where.

She states, "From what I remember, the session was going to be about something and it didn't work out that way at all. My friend was up there, had some information downloaded like 30min before the session began, and started talking about scientific stuff from who-knows where. The information was VERY sophisticated and I managed to wrap my brain around it but most did not. It was during this time that the beings were there. They were highly highly intelligent and their knowledge of the universe was very old and expansive. Funny thing is, I can't remember what was taught!

I never got a negative energy on them, just 'heavy'. Try telling a room full of white lighters that just because a being is 'dark' and 'heavy' it doesn't mean that they are 'bad'! Anyway, I had always speculated that they were either from one of the dimensions that could not possess physical vehicles (low possibility) or that they were from either a dimension that weren't supposed to be able to be here at all (like 10, 11, or 12 - more like 10). This seems more possible just because of the ancient information they have, the way they were teaching it, and the times we are in. Also, it would make sense that they came from a 'black hole' in that respect considering I think that would be a portal available to them.

I get this feeling that all the ET factions that are working with them have a huge amount of respect and almost are indebted to them (like an elder thing). Not sure if they dumped the reptoids here or not, going to have to look into that a little more. I think that the Plejaren connection has something to do with this but I also think that it's mainly because they are the race that was chosen by the GF to lead some stuff. I really think 'we' are approaching this from a different angle because we know that it is going to require reviewing and acknowledging even race factions that have not always been 'positive' for a shift to occur. It really will take a team effort... I will let you know if anything else comes along :) "

Make of it what you will, but something is up with that. This also just adds to the complexity of it all. Another variable.

Namaste'

Noela 10-02-2009 01:20 PM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
I liked what Alex said about blessing things as we go along. Blessing
rooms, blessing our food.

I bless my food, and I've felt pretty darn stupid! What on earth does
this do, sort of thing. Particular when it comes to my favourite -
cappachino and cake - now blessing that does seem stupid!

So good to know Alex blesses his coffee - good to have this
confirmation.

It would be nice to think others would take this up. I guess
it does something for us, anyway. Brings gratitude, maybe.

I believe it could change vibrations, if enough people adopted it
in enough situations. Such a simple little thing.

Stargazer1965 10-02-2009 03:14 PM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah (Post 42822)
QUERY:
How it is a historical record?


It is a very complete summary of what cooper, hoagland, salla, burisch and the whole ET/UFO community has been telling us for decades.

He does an excellent job of integrating the micro and the macro. He's a good history teacher because he uses summaries frequently to help the listener navigated through such a huge knowledge base.

As a teacher, I'm impressed with his delivery and outline.


Shech--

But he got the point across to you\us.....He served well

orthodoxymoron 10-02-2009 09:31 PM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lionhawk (Post 172180)

In 2005 a gathering of a few light warriors performed their duty. That gathering disrupted the darkside's agenda big time. It was quiet for about 6 months but we knew they were regrouping. This gathering only bought us some time. There was also no loss of life on our side. That was a switch for a change. But since then, the dark have pulled all the stops are squeezing the life out of everything they have attached themselves to. Their ranks and hierarchy have been rearranged. Lucifer is no more, but then again he was replaced by another dark one who now leads his minions. What's the difference?

What happened to Lucifer? Was Lucifer running the show up to 2005? Did Lucifer retire? Who is in charge now? Was Lucifer replaced by Satan? Did Lucifer fake his or her demise or demotion? This being is (was?) a master of deception. I tend to think that Lucifer is alive and well...and living in Orange County or Pine Gap. My question is 'who does Lucifer (or whoever is currently in charge of Earth) get their orders from?' Or is this being the kingpin?

Knowing who owns what in this Solar System...and what the power structure is for both the light and dark sides...is very important. Most of us don't know or don't seem to care about who's who in the heirarchical zoo...but this should really be nailed down...I think. Avalon people care...but do we know?

It sounds like you know what you're doing...but it sounds like you are involved in some frightening and dangerous projects. Be careful.

Are we going to be able to negotiate the removal of all dark beings (human and non-human) from this Solar System? Are we going to have to fight a Battle of Armageddon? How about a Solar System Exorcism? Who you gonna call?

Fredkc 10-02-2009 09:40 PM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
Music Lover;
"I feel your pain." http://fredsitelive.com/fun/rofl.gif
I go back and forth on such matters myself. Said this before but, I am sick to death of investigating "sure things" that turn out to be nothing more than fuzzy dots. When it comes with windows that have windhield wipers, and lil folk peeking out, or a believable photo thereof, then I'll say I've seen one.

I also have no more time for the likes of Alex (buy my video!) Jones, who spend their time (buy my book!) scaring people to death with (buy my DVD!) doom gloom and despair (buy my stuff!) while never offering a plan, (buy my other stuff!) or solutions. "Clearly they have their reward." ;)

Which brings me to a third clump.
There is years and years of reading available on the Net, that starts with, "I know a guy who was told by a reliable source, whose best friend used to live with a woman who..."... gimme a break! This kind of "recombinant data" is available in such mass quantities, that now I just take the grain of salt, and toss the data. It saves time.

Alex Collier;
AC's stuff falls into what I'd call "2nd hand subjective".

All you really have, in the end, is your own BS-Meter. To this all I can add, for myself, is to compare it against the several kinds of 1st person subjective experiences I've had over the years, and how I'd react.

I first watched Collier last week on the Camelot video. I came away with these:
  • He doesn't appear to be the "hero" in his story.
  • He isn't looking for "followers".
  • He'd rather not be there.
  • I don't think he's selling something.
  • He appears as, or more deeply moved by what he has to say then anyone else.
  • He is talking about solutions which do not require him, and "do no harm".
I come away with the strong impression that he does believe whoever it is he's talking to. When I think of trying to relate to people the events of the 1st person subjective things I've been part of, I think I'd come across about the same.

And so I'm left with that final leap. All I can say is when I consider the information which relates to our situation, and weigh it against my own beliefs, I think he is on track. And very brave.

Fred

Fredkc 10-02-2009 10:20 PM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
To this I'd like to add this Collier quote from another thread...
'Ladies and Gentlemen, in closing I have given what I can. It’s out there and that's what I agreed to do. You can choose to read it, listen to it, and research it or not. The information is the Andromedans' prospective. That's it. I would of course always encourage you to research the field. There is a wealth of information out there by many great dedicated researchers and speakers. NO ONE HAS THE WHOLE STORY. But it’s for you to discover who you are and your place in this drama of conscious and spiritual evolution. Be your own savior. Take the pressure off of GOD and help yourself. The worst case is you will be an inspiration and leader to others, to invest in themselves and see themselves as they truly are: genetic royalty and incredible beings.'
Does this sound like someone trying to amass wealth, or build a cult, to anyone else?
I sure don't see it.

When all else fails: Defending Sacred Ground.

orthodoxymoron 10-02-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Alex Collier Contactee ... Message from the Andromedans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras (Post 172079)
Ortho (or anyone else),

What does Alex Collier say about the reptilians and greys? Can you summarize? (just curious)

That malevolent reptilians from another universe were dumped into this universe by someone a long, long time ago...and that humans and reptilians have been fighting with each other for millions (billions?) of years...and that the greys were caught in the middle...and are presently controlled by the reptilians. Draco > Orion Group > Greys > Us seems to be the chain of command. Reptilians live hundreds of miles beneath the Earth's surface...and eat humans (especially children). The Greys do the dirty work for the Reps.

I'm leaving out a lot...and I probably got it wrong...but that's a thumbnail sketch of what Collier says about the Reps and Greys. Help! Other people say what your impression is.


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