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asteram 01-08-2009 01:44 PM

Onwards
 
Onwards

I know there is a new world coming, and I know it is real. It is not the world of horror of the New World Order. It is a place of great peace, beauty, and abundance for all. I have walked the country lanes and seen the blue skies and talked to the happy people. It is real. It is coming. And it is no other world than the one we are on right now. Do not fear the Earth changes or the warmongers or the chaos. We need not let the dark and the evil destroy our beautiful home. The forces of darkness cannot access the love, the vision, or the powers that we can. Their path is the rot of decomposition, the path of de-evolution, the downward spiral of destruction. Their rot can only thrive where there has not been sweet fresh air and the light of the sun. They are not who Terra Earth is. They are not who we are. We are the gift of Creation. The powers of Creation belong to us. They are our birthright.

All have heard or read "As above, so below". Now hear the whole passage:

From the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus:

"As above so below for the performance of the miracles of the one thing."

This is how it is done. You wish to change what is happening here? Change it the same way our Creator brought forth the Universes: See it done. Feel it done. With breath and gentle focus, knowingness, and love. Know it is done. Hold the Earth in your loving hands; see her healed and perfect. In your mind, see her bathed in that ultraviolet light a little beyond what our human eyes can see, the blue light that cleans away harmful things. With your breath, gently blow away the veil of darkness that now shrouds her glory; see it disappear into the void. Hold the vision of your own place in this new world that will be ours; see what a beautiful place she is. Let the love in your heart go out to her who has given you so much. Know it is so.

This present mess must fall apart because it is too broken to fix, but we get to decide what it will become. Let the broken useless harmful things fall apart. Let them fall, while holding joy and anticipation in your heart. Preserve what is worth preserving. We are those actors with the vision and the talent to stage the new performance. If you are feeling the pain of this world, then comfort her, see her vibrantly whole. Yes there will be chaos, but none of the grand cataclysmic destruction is needed. Out of the chaos will come our chance to create the New Earth. This is what we came here for.

"As above so below for the performance of the miracles of the one thing."

Love I You Greatly.

This essay is entirely copyright-free. Please pass it on to anyone that you think would actually use the information in it. m_astera.
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It appears the greatest trick and most desperate ploy of those bent on destruction is to convince us that we are all just helpless animals in a cage, waiting for the next painful shock that we cannot avoid. That is what Gaza is all about, while the world stands by helplessly watching pure evil slaughter our fellow humans and laughing in our faces at our helplessness. That is what the fears of Earth changes and prophecies of doom and the financial collapse are at root: just another painful reminder to prove to us that we are helpless animals descended from apes. That is what the "evil sinner" lie is all about, and the threats of hellfire and damnation. That is what all of the suffering and the wars and the fear of atomic warfare are about and have been about, to keep us from finding out who we really are: That we have, within us all, that same divine spark, and that we can connect to and use the powers of creation for the betterment of all. We can change it all in the twinkling of an eye.

We need not beg the false gods they have set up. We need only to remember who we really are, and take back to ourselves the divine heritage and nature that is rightfully ours from our creation. The evil ones cannot access the power of creation. They cannot, for they are not creative. The powers of creation are not given to those who worship destruction.

We are divine beings incarnate in this human instrument; we are not helpless animals, and the evil ones know they are in big trouble if and when we figure that out.

futureyes 01-08-2009 05:02 PM

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i LOVE this asteram, it so resonates with me ...

it is a similar teaching i received in a dream last evening about all that is and all that is meant to be ...

that we must not "battle" the dark forces in this world, that is the old way of "doing", rather we must just "be" in our light, this is the new way ...
negativity feeds from our energy, always has, we must stop feeding it, we must stop fuelling it ...
it must be allowed to dissolve on its own, we must not use the tactics it has always used upon us, we must do this differently, we must allow it to die of its own accord, the same agendas it has placed upon us with so much suffering caused for so long ...

always we should be aware of its energy but we can do this by not entering its field and get pulled in, yet again, we must allow for distance between, this space is our love and our light, it will protect us as it guides us ...
the new energies now will facilitate this, they will assist us, if we can remain within our light we will experience this effortlessly ...

yes there will be chaos, yes there will be disturbance, and yet, if we know it to be temporary, purposeful even, that through this we will create our new world but that this is the initial step, to create it from new ways ... now, to start now ...

as it always has, negative forces create big threatening fires to frighten us, but we must stop adding fuel to these fires, in essence, conclude the old ways of doing what they do, it is all they know but we know differently now, they won't get that, they only know of destruction to manipulate and control, quite soon, when we don't give our energy to them so willingly, their fires will get smaller, they will decrease in size, it will not have the ability to continue on the way it has because it requires our good energy ... no energy, no fuel ... fire eventually extinguishes itself ... does it all on its own, we do not need to extinguish it, we must allow it to do so and then THAT will be the end of that chapter and finally, finally a new one can be written ...

it is a beautiful thing to simply allow for what no longer serves purpose in this world to dissolve and be done with it, to not have to battle it to the ground because then it is not done, its cycle is only complete when IT concludes it ...

i'm rambling ... this just resonated with me as the new way, to know and to be well aware of what is occuring around us BUT, the change lies within our ability to stand next to it in love and light, that is our power, we don't need to "do" anything, we just have to come to know that when we "be" who we are, who we REALLY are ... the change to a positive world then WILL manifest because we have created it within our hearts ... collectively ...

this is about knowing who we are and how we are meant to live, how we have always lived prior to the dark weighing the scales too heavily ...

this is about restructuring the balance of energy, that we can do this by just being in our light, and feeling, from our hearts ...

we are divine beings of love and when we KNOW this, nothing, NOTHING can stand higher ... no, not even the dark, as powerful as it "thinks" it is ... it cannot ...

this is not fluff, it is just universal law ...

way too much rambling, must be getting off topic here ...

know love, be love, live love ...
know we are all light ...
know WE are the change ...

:wub2:

asteram 01-08-2009 05:07 PM

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futureyes-

please see the postscript just added to the post above

futureyes 01-08-2009 05:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asteram (Post 101700)
futureyes-

please see the postscript just added to the post above

aaahhhhhh :shocked:

nah, more like :original: just more of that "syncing" that's been going on these days :wink2:

:wub2:

piers2210 01-08-2009 05:41 PM

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thanks for this....perfect. Cheered me up. Sometimes i get depressed when i think of the premeditated evil around...all i can say is "why"?

asteram 01-09-2009 01:39 PM

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Addendum II to first post:

As futureyes put it, quit adding fuel to the fire they have started to frighten us.

What I am doing is taking the focus away from what they want us to focus on, that we are helpless animals. No energy of mine goes into their fear anymore. All my energy goes toward healing the planet, creating a new world, and the only way that will happen is by changing the consciousness.

Some are afraid of giant tsunamis or comet impacts or volcanoes or financial collapse or atomic war or Jesus or whatever the ****. All of those are precisely what THEY want our focus on. It's called the chicken little thing.

It can all change in the twinkling of an eye, once the tipping point is reached. It will not change by focusing on their fear tactics and distractions. Period. We all have to survive; we do not all have to buy into their fear consciousness and **** the planetary consciousness up until it IS forced to blow.

asteram 01-09-2009 02:01 PM

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From an email I sent this morning:

I'm not arguing that the forces of evil have 'made up" the changes
that are destined to happen to induce fear in us. But I find it
undeniable (personally) that they feed off of our fear. Our fear and
horror and hate for them only feed the fire they have built to
frighten us, as a friend put it on another forum where I posted my
essay (www.projectavalon.net). This other poster also made the point
that we can and should observe what is happening, but when we stand in
our light their fire burns out from lack of fuel.

The revelation I had is that their MO is to keep us convinced that we
are helpless animals descended from apes. All of the various
scenarios of fear, from Gaza today to comet impacts to atomic war have
the common thread of being things that helpless animals can do nothing
about, only endure. And as long as the mass of humanity is convinced
they are just animals they will cower in the corner of the cage,
fearfully awaiting the next shock.

The Earth will go through the changes necessary. Many of these have
already happened,IMO. Nature may already be vibrating at that higher
level; it appears so to me, but humanity is stuck, and nature taking
its course must deal with whatever is stuck. The various levels of
evil and their plans do not want the collective consciousness to wake
up; I want the collective consciousness of humanity to wake up and
stop feeding fuel to their fire of fear and helplessness.

The purpose of the magic spell I sent out is to plant a
seed of a different way of looking at this, and to provide whoever
finds it a new place to put their energy and focus. A creative and
loving and powerful place, instead of a helpless animal full of fear
and hate.

futureyes 01-09-2009 06:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asteram (Post 101970)
Addendum II to first post:

As futureyes put it, quit adding fuel to the fire they have started to frighten us.

What I am doing is taking the focus away from what they want us to focus on, that we are helpless animals. No energy of mine goes into their fear anymore. All my energy goes toward healing the planet, creating a new world, and the only way that will happen is by changing the consciousness.

Some are afraid of giant tsunamis or comet impacts or volcanoes or financial collapse or atomic war or Jesus or whatever the ****. All of those are precisely what THEY want our focus on. It's called the chicken little thing.

It can all change in the twinkling of an eye, once the tipping point is reached. It will not change by focusing on their fear tactics and distractions. Period. We all have to survive; we do not all have to buy into their fear consciousness and **** the planetary consciousness up until it IS forced to blow.

"taking the focus away from what they want us to focus on"

indeed, ever since this year commenced (like a whole nine days ago) i have been getting this so powerfully ...
for our selves to SHIFT our focus, no more playing the game according to their rules, no more game playing PERIOD ...
it is about time we stop playing and start LIVING, like REALLY living ...

"it can all change in twinkling of an eye ..."


this is SO ENTIRELY TRUE, it can be happen effortlessly, we simply have to change our focus, THIS is our ticket, we hold it within our hearts, we always have ...

it is time for everyone to find their tickets and collectively place our focus, our intention on how life is meant to be, refrain from focusing on the muck, it cannot remain operable without our energy, it is just how it is ...

say good bye to the world you thought you lived in because it WILL change, it can shift in a blink of an eye ... effortlessly!

:wub2:

asteram 01-09-2009 10:36 PM

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Duplicate post
Who runs this thing anyway?

asteram 01-09-2009 10:37 PM

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From another email today:

Me:
> I can feel the Earth crying today. I have been putting all of my
> energy toward comforting her, telling her how beautiful she is.

Q:
how about focussing on Gaza? Can we picture her in the blue light? If we all
did it, would it help?

Me:
Yes, that is it exactly. I am doing the whole Earth. Every part
needs it, especially the places of suffering and concentrated evil
like Israel. You don't need to love the Gazans and you don't need to
hate the Israelis. Forget all that and love and heal the Earth there.
See it put right.

Note, also, that this is not a prayer. You are not asking anyone's
help or assistance. You are not begging for anyone to save these
people or this planet. This is coming from your own power. See it
healed.

It is magic. What I sent you is not a prayer, it is a magic spell
that you work with you own power. Hermes Tresmegistus was not a
priest or a savior; he was a, well, what is the word? A sorceror? A
Wizard? A magician? A Master.

This is about using your own power to heal the Earth. Gaza needs it badly.

asteram 01-09-2009 10:43 PM

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From another email:


Breath, gentle focus, knowingness and love. Interesting armaments for the world's most powerful army.

asteram 01-09-2009 10:44 PM

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Marian-Librarian 01-09-2009 10:48 PM

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We are indeed what we think , and what we do and act and say....
How I wish all would truly know that...we are what we say, and do, and act.......3 in one, as above...so below....

We DO forget that we are spirit beings, sadly....

This then is what we would awake to...that we are whole, we are one being..

In thought, word, and deed.

Truly then, the world would be a beautiful place,

if we come from the position of, LOVE

Grace, Peace, and Love,

to you and yours....
in this time,and space.

Namaste,loved ones!

J

futureyes 01-09-2009 10:54 PM

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Note, also, that this is not a prayer. You are not asking anyone's help or assistance. You are not begging for anyone to save these
people or this planet. This is coming from your own power. See it
healed.


exactly ... it is more about already KNOWING the earth has healed and aligning all love, intention and focus to this knowing ...

living it, NOW, as if it is already so ...

:wub2:

futureyes 01-09-2009 11:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marian-Librarian (Post 102077)
We are indeed what we think , and what we do and act and say....
How I wish all would truly know that...we are what we say, and do, and act.......3 in one, as above...so below....

We DO forget that we are spirit beings, sadly....

This then is what we would awake to...that we are whole, we are one being..

In thought, word, and deed.

Truly then, the world would be a beautiful place,

if we come from the position of, LOVE

Grace, Peace, and Love,

to you and yours....
in this time,and space.

Namaste,loved ones!

J


the old way is to slap hazzardly speak, think and take action without allowing it to pass through our hearts first ...

what we communicate and how we act must come from heart central, in this way we truly mean what we speak, our thoughts are then of the highest and purest intentions ...

once we come to realilze this truth, then the fun begins ...

when we are aligned and connected to our higher selves, we live from our hearts, we intend what is true and right to create and it will manifest ...

this now, in this moment, is our practice to find this balance, once we navigate through the old ways, we enter the new ...

don't ask yourself if you are ready for this ... re-member you were born ready!

:wub2:

Czymra 01-10-2009 06:05 PM

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Hm...
I am with you on changing the focus. It's certainly the first step.
However, I'd like to be more proactive and actually transmute things.
Don't you think that there is a way of not offering any contact surface to evil surfaces and thus letting the anger run into nothing? This is not to sound like 'offering the other cheek' or walking into evil's fangs without complaining but I had good experiences with simply 'acting unexpectedly'.

asteram 01-10-2009 11:09 PM

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You appear to be missing a fundamental concept needed to understand the essay. I'm talking about energy: energy as in electrical energy, physical energy, emotional energy.

You can probably think of people with whom you have had a conversation and walked away drained, and also people with whom you have talked and walked away energized and with a spring in you step. The same goes for films, plays, musical performances. Some energize you, some drain your energy. This is real; all of us have experienced this. In theater is is very common for the actors to project their energy to the audience, leaving the actors drained. And sometimes vice-versa.

Some humans are energy vampires, they suck emotional energy, life energy, from others. Others are, shall I say, energy donors, some of whom give away too much of their own life energy to others. And there are a happy few who know how to stimulate energy in those around them without losing their own.

There is another level to this, an unseen level. On this level the energy donors and the energy vampires are known by various terms such as good and evil spirits, angels and demons etc. These are ancient terms, but their equivalent is found in the lore of all of mankind throughout all of history. These concepts are routinely dismissed by "modern" science and society as superstition, but if they have no reality why are they known to all peoples through all of time, no matter how isolated or far-flung?

They are real all right.

Here is the basic concept: Entities that are invisible to us are capable of feeding off of our emotional energy. Call them what you will. These invisible energy vampires do not feed off of love, gratitude, or joy. Their food is grief, anger, fear, hate, despair. The more intense the "negative" emotion, the more food value it has for them. They are among us, they are not in some distant heaven or hell. They have the ability to influence thoughts, to put a thought or an idea into people's heads. They stimulate negative emotions in us because it is food for them. They also stimulate violence, greed, wars, hate and division because all of these provide food for them. Both the seething anger of the perpetrator and the fear and pain of the victim are food for them, as are guilt and shame and depression.

In times past they were much more a visible force in society. The Aztec practice of human sacrifice provides a good example. The pain and fear of the sacrificial victim provided food for them, as did the cruel exultation of the priest, as did the emotional reactions of the congregation watching the sacrifice. It's worth noting that the very life force itself of the sacrificial victim was and is their choicest and strongest food.

Certain humans are well aware of the vampires, or become aware of them, and are willing to work with them in order to obtain material reward: wealth, power, sex, social standing. This is what "selling one's soul to the devil" entails, making a bargain with these entities to provide them with food, negative emotional energy, in exchange for rewards on the physical plane.

One of the biggest feasts for these entities is the suffering and destruction of war. War is a banquet; they are fed not only by the suffering and life force of those who are injured and killed in war, but by the grieving and pain of those left bereaved. Note that those who start the wars on our physical plane also profit from them on the physical plane; that is their payoff from the vampires.

Today things are a little more sophisticated than in Aztec times or even a century ago. The media provide the main source of food for the vampires. Imagine a horror film, a darkened theater full of people completely engrossed in the film; now imagine that you could see the invisible entities that are there in that theater feeding off of the shock, fear and horror of the audience. The same can be said of films of heartbreak and loss and films of war. All induce strong negative emotions in the audience and provide food.

The present carnage in Gaza? Food for the vampires on a worldwide scale as we watch in horror and anger and hate and judgment.

That is the fundamental concept.

Take your emotional focus away from the show, and you cease to provide a source of food. Further, you can now consciously use that energy in a positive manner, by working to make a better world, by sending loving and healing energy to the Earth. It is all one energy, and it can be directed consciously toward creation, love and gratitude.

I have taken my energy away from them. I will no longer be manipulated by them as a source of food. My energy, all of it, is now mine to direct as I consciously choose.

futureyes 01-11-2009 12:05 AM

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wow asteram, i am inspired in the way you know and feel how energy works, you have tremendous insight to this, how it universally flows and how it can be directed for negative agendas or positive creation and healing ...

woo hoo ... you're in the flow of the know!!! :thumb_yello:

Carmen 01-11-2009 12:10 AM

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Thanks asteram, After watching the utube video on Gaza. I just felt sick! I needed re-reminding that my attention and negative response is exactly how the eaters of energy have designed it.

asteram 01-11-2009 02:20 AM

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Hi futureyes-

You wrote

" how it universally flows and how it can be directed for negative agendas or positive creation and healing ..."

This is true for personal energy. As I noted in the thread starter though, those on the negative path cannot access the powerful energies of creation, not in the same way we can. It's not so much that they have been cut off from them, but that they have chosen to cut themselves off.

Note that evil is never creative, only derivative. Satanists say the Lord's prayer backwards, hang the crucifix upside down, turn the 5-pointed star of man upside down etc. All very boring and unoriginal. Evil is boring. What would the Illuminati/NWO crowd do if they enslaved humanity and ruled the world? Play golf? They couldn't even invent the game.

All a great spiritual healer needs to do to be cut off from source is to try to start healing as a way to acquire personal wealth and power. This is not to say that abundance is not for the spiritual, but the focus on personal gain is not aligned with unfolding and evolving creation and the two don't mix.

Our personal energy can be used by us or fed to the vampires. On another level, we as divine sparks can access the full energies of creation as well, something "they" can't do.

asteram 01-11-2009 02:20 AM

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futureyes 01-11-2009 08:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asteram (Post 102501)
Hi futureyes-

You wrote

" how it universally flows and how it can be directed for negative agendas or positive creation and healing ..."

This is true for personal energy. As I noted in the thread starter though, those on the negative path cannot access the powerful energies of creation, not in the same way we can. It's not so much that they have been cut off from them, but that they have chosen to cut themselves off.

Note that evil is never creative, only derivative. Satanists say the Lord's prayer backwards, hang the crucifix upside down, turn the 5-pointed star of man upside down etc. All very boring and unoriginal. Evil is boring. What would the Illuminati/NWO crowd do if they enslaved humanity and ruled the world? Play golf? They couldn't even invent the game.

All a great spiritual healer needs to do to be cut off from source is to try to start healing as a way to acquire personal wealth and power. This is not to say that abundance is not for the spiritual, but the focus on personal gain is not aligned with unfolding and evolving creation and the two don't mix.

Our personal energy can be used by us or fed to the vampires. On another level, we as divine sparks can access the full energies of creation as well, something "they" can't do.


spot on asteram ...

personal gain ... selfishness
unfolding and evolving creation ... selflessness
universal law ... don't mix 'em up cause ya WILL lose your connection to source thus falling back into illusion (and sadly, many have sold their souls when shiney sparkley trinkets were held before them) ...
law of the universe ... ya just don't profit from pureness ...
it's like playin with fire ... ya gonna get burned ...
AND ... within you, you have known this all along ...
and still ... the matches were just too tempting ...

:wub2:

Czymra 01-11-2009 10:17 AM

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All right. Let me put out my doubts here just so we can squash those last self-gain grains that hold me back.

As I said before, I truly am convinced that the devil is in the detail which in my opinion is exactly about those negative forces you describe here.
However, when I look at the world, I find abundant proof of all other agendas going on here. I can see the fear being spread and the food being poisoned and the wedges that issues like sexism, racism or some such that are forced between people.
However, apart from the presence of good and evil in all fairy tales, stories and other virtual media I cannot find any trace of 'dark entities'. You say they are invisible, all right. Yet they are as traceless on this plane as the proverbial reptilians and my guess is that they fulfil the exact same functions: To create an enemy of some kind that people can unite against.
In that regard it's just handy that the enemy isn't 'visible' as he can be blamed for everything.
Now this isn't a bad thing in my mind as it may help people to become aware of the focus within them on negative energies and thus take care of the situation, but it still isn't a move beyond duality, beyond blame, beyond 'the other'.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to say 'all is one' just for the sake of justifying the presence of evil. I'm merely trying to get down to the difference between having an enemy and integrating that 'enemy' into one's view.

If there is any evidence of these vampire entities I'd love to see it. But please don't show me video rendering glitches and expect me to just believe. I rather learn to transmute my negative emotions and still take care of them abstractly, without the fighting against the 'evil spirit'.

asteram 01-11-2009 04:52 PM

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Afraid you don't get me if you think I'd post a video, period.

I am very much grounded on this planet, as in firmly rooted in 3D physicality. I am not given to flights of fancy, nor do I accept anything without proving it to my own satisfaction. I do not repeat what others have told me as if it is a truth to be accepted without question; I am the opposite polarity from that of a "true believer".

The concept I'm writing about here is one I have been researching for nearly twenty years. I have narrowed the focus above with practical examples from everyday life that I think we can all relate to. I have studied the subject long enough and had enough experience to convince myself of its reality. I can't do that for you, nor would I bother to do so. The post was meant to clarify what I am talking about when I write about not giving "them" one's energy.

The entities I am referring to are identical with the reptilians; that is simply a modern terminology that relates to the present concepts of "space aliens". Hyperdimensional or interdimensional beings comes much closer to the truth. No, one cannot "see" them as they are not composed of the elements of the periodic table. Note that the emotions they feed on are also invisible and not composed of elements of the periodic table. Can you show me emotional energy? Can you prove to me, in an empirical manner, that emotional energy exists? What is the difference between living and dead bodies, when the chemical composition is the same? Any measurements for that around that you know of? Videos, maybe?

One can learn to sense these entities with practice and intuition, somewhat like the shadows cast on the wall in Plato's cave. If you have no personal experience of such non-3D beings, and no personal experience of discarnate entities, evil spirits, or truly evil beings including human ones, then I can't remedy that either. You have to do your own homework and have your own experiences.

Evil is very real and it is not situational or "in the details". Again, I can't remedy your lack of knowledge in any brief manner nor would I bother to, but if you'd like to step outside your bubble for a moment you could do a search for the word "ponerology".

Czymra 01-11-2009 05:26 PM

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Asteram, what you write sounds like you are offended or angry, maybe merely frustrated. Let me first clarify that I did not write my previous post to cause such emotions or to simply debunk a theory. I appreciate them all well and am trying to get especially behind that one well. It is just too common that I have seen people state this without at least a story to support it.
(I actually didn't even consider reptilians to be the same thing, this was meant as an example of 'really silly evidence'.)

Fair enough one can't prove them physically, but an illustration of emotional dispositions or some such would really be helpful. I may have encountered one person that was truly evil and the experience shocked me to my bones. I guess I've lead a life too 'protected'.

By the way, concluding that I don't step outside of my bubble just because I hold up some doubts certainly ain't most gracious either.
Travelling this path is difficult, you do know that, and I don't really want to go down every dead end to figure it out.

But again, I'd love to hear more, if it can be any more concise.

asteram 01-11-2009 05:48 PM

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Deleted as irrelevant to this thread.

asteram 01-11-2009 06:04 PM

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Czymra-

I am not mr nicey-nice. I'm quite blunt when I think it is appropriate. That is how my best teachers were with me as well. I cannot and will not spoon feed anyone capable of holding their own spoon. Here's a spoon, there's the food.

I gave you a word, ponerology. That is a good start to understanding the human end of what I am talking about. You also might want to check out an old book from the 1980s, William Bramley's Gods of Eden. Bramley went some distance down the path and came to some conclusions that he was not looking for.

This thread is about an advanced concept, advanced a few steps beyond resistance and revolution. I am addressing the question of "why" the world is as it is, pointing out that the answers do not lie in the material plane, and making a suggestion about what practical steps can be taken to change things. The cause is non-physical, the solution is also non-physical.

asteram 01-11-2009 06:13 PM

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Czymra-

I welcome your doubt. I have seen it on other threads and applaud it as something too scarce on this forum. My impatience arises because I am starting this thread from a point that assumes a pre-existing knowledge base and don't have the time or inclination to start from scratch.

Note Carmen's response above:

"After watching the utube video on Gaza. I just felt sick! I needed re-reminding that my attention and negative response is exactly how the eaters of energy have designed it."

Carmen already has the knowledge and experience base that I'm assuming. So, for the purpose of this discussion, may I ask you to provisionally accept the reality of the concept and perhaps we can discuss things as if it were true?

Czymra 01-11-2009 06:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asteram (Post 102645)
Czymra-

I welcome your doubt. I have seen it on other threads and applaud it as something too scarce on this forum. My impatience arises because I am starting this thread from a point that assumes a pre-existing knowledge base and don't have the time or inclination to start from scratch.

Note Carmen's response above:

"After watching the utube video on Gaza. I just felt sick! I needed re-reminding that my attention and negative response is exactly how the eaters of energy have designed it."

Carmen already has the knowledge and experience base that I'm assuming. So, for the purpose of this discussion, may I ask you to provisionally accept the reality of the concept and perhaps we can discuss things as if it were true?

I shall have no problem with that and shall feed myself of course but my learning from persons compared to the learning from books is just a vast difference. So thank you for your discourse.

It is an interesting issue however, as I understand what you are talking about (as opposed to some other people's diatribes) but it may well be that I just see one level of it. At some point I suppose I will just have to stop learning and concentrate even more on my daily life. For now, ponerology and especially that book shall be the next step.
Thank you.

asteram 01-12-2009 12:26 AM

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Czymra-

I do apologize for being brusque. It's simply impatience on my part, not anger, and it's certainly no fault of yours. I don't mind explaining simple concepts, and they are simple. I just don't want to go into the long process of explaining how I came to the conclusion of the reality of the emotional parasites.

Let's forget the invisible and hyperdimensional part for a moment. Just in real life, have you known someone who stole your energy, by for instance, bugging you? Say they found something they could do that you really didn't like. Brothers and sisters can be good at that sort of thing, classmates too. They knew that if they did that thing it would bother you and you would hate it. So they did it for no other reason than to get your attention and irritate you. Things like this tend to irritate a person far more than would seem justified by the offense; the emotional response is disproportionate; you can find yourself either overreacting or drained emotionally.

One solution is to ignore them, refuse to give them a response. This may still drain you emotionally, but eventually they will give up because there is no payoff. Another solution is to simply quit reacting internally, decide not to allow it to affect you anymore, and put your attention and energy elsewhere. You notice that they are doing "that thing" but so what? That's what they do and you have better things to focus on, better things to spend your energy on. In either case they will give it up, but in the second example you don't waste any time or energy waiting for them to get bored and quit.

What I am suggesting throughout this thread is that the actions of media and government are similar to those of the schoolyard bully or the little brother who scrapes his fork on his plate. They deliberately take your attention and energy. The more you refuse to react, the less power they have. When you get to the point of not just ignoring them but refusing to give them any attention and instead put your energy towards what you wish, then you are moving into creating what you wish and they are withering away from neglect.

This is a simple exoteric real-world example and any of us can see how effective it would be. Quit going into that store, get your friends to quit going there, and the store will close. These sort of actions alone would change our world profoundly, even if only a few percent of us made the change; the idea would grow and spread as people began to wonder why they were still slaves while their neighbor was free.

In our modern world the easiest way to stimulate a negative response is through the media. The mainstream media keeps the general public lulled with banal stories, while keeping up a constant undercurrent of threat from invisible terrorist enemies, financial problems, fear of crime etc. Polarizing political passions are another dependable distraction that can be counted on to drain people's time and energy. The masses, being largely hypnotized, aren't much of a threat to the status quo and are easily manipulated.

The progressive and alternative crowd is a little different. To a greater or lesser extent they are awake and aware and they care, often passionately. Potential threat there. So how are they kept under control? By providing a constant barrage of outrages, once again through the media. The constant undercurrent is one of fear of environmental collapse and the knowledge of corporate corruption. There are always timely and specific stimuli to anger and outrage as well: Daily, weekly, and monthly we are provided with a neverending stream of stories to stimulate negative emotions. Is it not so? Always another variation on that fork scraping the plate. Never any energy left over to do much when one is too busy being outraged, too busy reacting. And note that the reacting is always negative. The stimulus is designed to evoke a negative response.

So today, as an awake, progressive, freedom loving person who wouldn't waste his time on mainstream media I go to my favorite and trusted news sites, blogs, and forums. What do I see? Do I see any progress being made to solve the problems of the world? Not a chance. I see Gaza and am outraged. I read about GMO contamination of the food supply and small farmers committing suicide in India because Monsanto sold them lying seeds. I read that Obama is an empty suit who has sold us out. I read about the protests against Israel, thousands strong throughout the world while the governments do nothing. I read that the USA is bankrupt and has been looted by the international bankers under the guise of a bailout. I am angered at all of these things. I am sickened by some. I am horrified by bloody videos of mutilated children. How can I find the time and energy to actually do anything creative and progressive?

So we see on one level that my creative energies have been diverted into negativity, while at the same time I have provided a feast of negative emotion for our hypothetical parasites, leaving nothing left for me to create something better, We don't even need the emotional parasites in the picture to make the point: If all of the people's energy and emotion is caught up in fear and negative reaction, there is nothing left with which to create something better.

I am not saying to stop reading the news, or to stop being informed. I'm not saying not to care. What I am suggesting is to be pre-aware that one is being deliberately manipulated into wasting all of their energy on negative reactivity. Realize that that is a major purpose behind committing and publicizing the outrages. And quit giving your energy away. Pay attention to your emotions; when you feel a negative reaction coming forth, note it objectively, look at it and see if it serves any useful purpose to you. If not, what else could you do with that energy?

The beginning of this thread is a little magic spell titled "Onwards". It is designed to be powered by your own energy, however much or little of that you have. As noted earlier, it is not a prayer. You are not begging anyone for anything or asking for any help. It's just you and your own imagination, directing your own energy towards the dream of how you would like life to be. The suggestion is that you save up some of that energy that is presently being manipulated away from you and put it towards a positive vision of your own future, that of humanity, and of this beautiful planet that must love us because she still puts up with us.

Czymra 01-14-2009 09:58 PM

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Asteram,

Thank you for getting back again. Your examples do help me understand. I did of course notice this dynamic before but you point out a depth of this concept that I wasn't aware before.
Interestingly, the issues I struggle with most aren't those clear negative feelings of dislike or anger, but rather the sensation of being annoyed. Acceptance is the way I suppose but I have suddenly hit a time when I need to take action so I'll have to see how the theory translates now.
I've returned to London and am glad to notice that it has changed, or I have changed. You never know which do you?

Thanks,
Czymra

asteram 01-15-2009 02:14 PM

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I doubt that annoyance is considered very high-grade food by the emotional vampires. You are not providing them with a banquet, that's for sure.

Amazing, isn't it, what a change in our own outlook can do to the environment?

I'm remiinded of an old Taoist story about a farmer whose favorite axe disappeared. He suspected the teenage son of his neighbor, and when he saw the boy he could tell that the boy was acting guilty. A few days later the farmer found his axe; he had forgotten it behind a tree in the woods. The next time he saw the boy, the boy didn't seem to be acting guilty any more.

asteram 01-15-2009 02:16 PM

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Nina's question:

"Do you think vampires can change into donors?

Its my experience that they can change if they run into total resistance. No food, no needs met. It may be a ruse, over time we shall see about that. It also may be that they have the capacity to visualize the illegitimacy of their actions....."


Psychopaths would be one category of vampire that plays a prominent role in our world.

If you have done any reading on psychopaths, you will know that it is not a mental disorder, it is more a species. Psychopathy is no more curable than being a wolverine or a shrike is curable. The species is so alien to the majority of humanity that we are largely unable to conceive of them. They appear human and can interbreed perfectly with humans, so we don't yet know if the difference is genetic. They have managed to hide their difference and even their existence until quite recently. The work of Hervey M. Cleckly, starting in the late 1940s, and more recently Andrew M. Lobaczewski, and Robert Hare have given us most of what we know about them. The more intelligent psychopaths are to be found at the highest levels of power which gives them great abilities to maintain their cover and even the knowledge of their existence. An example of their control is that the phenomenon is still not listed or described in the DSM IV standard diagnostic manual of mental disorders; the closest DSM IV comes is something called anti-social personality disorder which is thoroughly mixed up with a list of mental symptoms that have nothing to do with psychopathy. The fact that psychopathy is not listed in the DSM IV strongly indicates that there are psychopaths in positions of great influence in the mental health and psychiatric professions. Psychopaths know they are not human like the rest of us and that their only hope for survival is camouflage.

Recent work in brain imaging has shown some interesting differences in brain function. The most significant is that their brains do not appear to have a functional emotional center. In humans the amygdala and limbic system process emotions; in psychopaths that function seems to be performed in the intellectual centers, in the parts of the brain that humans use to process language. Rather than feeling an emotion and processing it through the amygdala, psychopaths analyze the emotion with the speech centers, looking for word associations in order to decide their most advantageous response to the human emotions that they have no capacity to feel themselves. They are cold and calculating, unfeeling, and without the ability to experience even the higher animal emotions such as affection and loyalty.

Another facet revealed by brain imaging is the psychopath's reaction to photos of extreme violence, tragedy, and gore. Whereas the higher centers of a human's brain tend to shut down when shown such things, those same areas in the psychopath's brain show increased activity indicating enhanced interest.

They are very much predators, and not only predators but predators that take pleasure in inflicting pain and suffering, which is why I compared them to shrikes and wolverines, animals well known for random senseless killing of other living things. To a psychopath, a human is at best a useful possession. They do not know loyalty, much less love or true affection; they only know personal advantage and what they want. Combine that with innate sadism and high intelligence and it creates one dangerous animal.

They have an incredible advantage over humans in a competitive situation as they have no compassion or conscience, and no compunction about using any tactics whatsoever in order to get what they desire. This leads to m_astera's corollary to the Peter Principle: In any hierarchy, the highest positions will eventually be filled by the most competent and ruthless psychopaths.

Psychopaths are definitely "vampires" , though whether or not they actually derive energy from the suffering of others is unknown at this point. In their case the answer would be no, they cannot change into "donors" or givers of emotional energy to others. They have nothing to give. They don't even experience fear the same way humans do, though they do know anger. It seems likely that psychopaths would make the best servants and enforcers for oppressive regimes in this 3-D plane and even more likely that they would be useful tools of the emotional vampires that are invisible to our eyes.

We have all interacted with those who drain our energy, and certainly not all of those would be psychopaths. Some are just "tiresome" people, to use an antique phrase. How much of the energy expended in the presence of tiresome people really goes to them as emotional food is anyone's guess, but it could probably be estimated by observing if they seem energized by interactions that leave others drained, or if they simply derive perverse pleasure from causing emotional distress. I see no reason that a normal non-psychopathic human could not learn compassion and do away with the practice of draining others should they make a conscious choice to do so. A religious conversion could initiate such a change.

In any case, whether dealing with human emotional vampires, tiresome people, or the invisible eaters of negative feelings, it's not so much a weapon that is needed as a shield. That shield is constant vigilance of one's own emotional state and reactions, and the conscious decisions not only not to feed the vampires, but to apply one's own emotional energy in a positive manner, deliberately using it to create a better world for their self and everyone else.

Carmen 01-15-2009 09:35 PM

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Thats a heavy one asteram, never heard of psychopaths being a different breed and not a product of upbringing or society. Id be interested in other evidence of this phenomena.

Cheers

Carmen

asteram 01-15-2009 11:52 PM

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I have studied the subject in some depth, Carmen. Above is just a brief review to tie it into the energy theme.

A psychopath can be created by environment. The CIA and other organizations do this regularly to children, sometimes the children of other intelligence agents, other times "missing" children that have been kidnapped. The children are forcibly "separated" from their higher centers and emotions such as compassion and conscience and turned into sex slaves, assassins etc. Evidence indicates that some families do this routinely to their own children; GW Bush would be an example. He was probably not born a psychopath, but his family deliberately made him into one so he could be a tool to continue their agenda.

It does appear though that most psychopaths are born that way; there is often only one psychopathic child in a family while the others are normal. I have seen this, perhaps you have too.

If you would like more info, just do a search for one of the authors I listed, or for the same word I suggested to Czymra: ponerology. You will find plenty.

Czymra 01-16-2009 12:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmen (Post 103817)
Thats a heavy one asteram, never heard of psychopaths being a different breed and not a product of upbringing or society. Id be interested in other evidence of this phenomena.

Cheers

Carmen

Be that as it may, I hear you on not letting them onto me. Curiously I just finished Twin Peaks and even though I am disappointed with the ending, I am surprised that especially the last few episodes were just about this topic.

asteram 01-17-2009 01:00 AM

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From the comments at my blog The New Agriculture

I found out about psychopaths from reading Laura Knight-Jadczyk's work and went on to read from there. She did the world a great service publicizing that info. There was also a thread on psychopaths at the dear departed libertyforum.org that went on for several hundred pages. They are a much more concise subject of interest than the generic Jews, Zionists, NWO, Illuminati focus. IMO, at the point where humanity can positively identify psychopaths and render them impotent we can start to make progress and not before.

The egregore term I think I first learned from Kyle Griffith's book War in Heaven, published in the late 1980s and available to read online last I checked. Worth looking up. The idea is that a powerful human "vampire" gathers followers while alive and accumulates enough energy to remain conscious after death on the infra-red plane, where he continues to draw energy from his earthly congregation. After death, members of the congregation are drawn to his "presence" on the infra red plane and join into a growing collection of discarnate consciousness that continues to feed off of the emotions of the incarnate. Griffith says egregores can become quite large but tend to "age" and become unfocused and senile. He postulates that the driving force behind the Aztec human sacrifice practice was the feeding of such an egregore, and that when the Spanish took over in Mexico the egregore lost its food supply and went looking for another, moving north and eventually feeding off of the isolated tribes of Canada and the northern US, the windigo or wendigo. It became a rather desperate creature and would psychically attack lone hunters, or possess them and drive them back to the village to commit atrocities.

I have read speculation that the God of the Levites variously known as Jehovah or Yahweh is just such an egregore, perhaps the same one as Baal. Postulating the reality of such an entity, the present actions of Israel start to make more sense. My own speculation is that there is significance behind the figure of six million Jews dying in some holocaust. That six million figure has been around at least since WWI. What I'm thinking is that this Levite egregore has calculated that if it can procure/obtain the life force from six million of its own earthly congregation at one time, the influx of energy would be enough to allow it to enslave and parasitize the whole planet. This could be a motive for bringing so many members of its congregation together in one place, Israel, and inciting enough hatred against them that they are indeed in danger of being "holocausted" en masse.

I just did a quick search for "Jewish population Israel" and the figure was 5,313,000. Hmmm.

Note that this whole egregore idea seems quite different from the demons/reptoids scenario.

asteram 01-17-2009 01:00 AM

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From the comments at my blog The New Agriculture

I found out about psychopaths from reading Laura Knight-Jadczyk's work and went on to read from there. She did the world a great service publicizing that info. There was also a thread on psychopaths at the dear departed libertyforum.org that went on for several hundred pages. They are a much more concise subject of interest than the generic Jews, Zionists, NWO, Illuminati focus. IMO, at the point where humanity can positively identify psychopaths and render them impotent we can start to make progress and not before.

The egregore term I think I first learned from Kyle Griffith's book War in Heaven, published in the late 1980s and available to read online last I checked. Worth looking up. The idea is that a powerful human "vampire" gathers followers while alive and accumulates enough energy to remain conscious after death on the infra-red plane, where he continues to draw energy from his earthly congregation. After death, members of the congregation are drawn to his "presence" on the infra red plane and join into a growing collection of discarnate consciousness that continues to feed off of the emotions of the incarnate. Griffith says egregores can become quite large but tend to "age" and become unfocused and senile. He postulates that the driving force behind the Aztec human sacrifice practice was the feeding of such an egregore, and that when the Spanish took over in Mexico the egregore lost its food supply and went looking for another, moving north and eventually feeding off of the isolated tribes of Canada and the northern US, the windigo or wendigo. It became a rather desperate creature and would psychically attack lone hunters, or possess them and drive them back to the village to commit atrocities.

I have read speculation that the God of the Levites variously known as Jehovah or Yahweh is just such an egregore, perhaps the same one as Baal. Postulating the reality of such an entity, the present actions of Israel start to make more sense. My own speculation is that there is significance behind the figure of six million Jews dying in some holocaust. That six million figure has been around at least since WWI. What I'm thinking is that this Levite egregore has calculated that if it can procure/obtain the life force from six million of its own earthly congregation at one time, the influx of energy would be enough to allow it to enslave and parasitize the whole planet. This could be a motive for bringing so many members of its congregation together in one place, Israel, and inciting enough hatred against them that they are indeed in danger of being "holocausted" en masse.

I just did a quick search for "Jewish population Israel" and the figure was 5,313,000. Hmmm.

Note that this whole egregore idea seems quite different from the demons/reptoids scenario.

Karen 01-17-2009 03:43 AM

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libertyforum.org shows up at the wayback machine:
http://archive.org

no caste 01-17-2009 09:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asteram (Post 104078)
This could be a motive for bringing so many members of its congregation together in one place, Israel, and inciting enough hatred against them that they are indeed in danger of being "holocausted" en masse.

Every day is a holocaust. A little 6m figure is infinitismal compared to the death totals in Nazi extermination camps (40 million) and other kills from the Crusades to Inquisition, Spanish Conquistadores in Americas, Armenia, bloodlets of WW1, Mao's China, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Vietnam, modern Iraq wars, Native American policies, Nanking Massacre, Boer concentration camps, Irish Potato Famine, WW2 deaths, AIDs in Africa, the dispossessed, sickening poverty, torments of impotence, dizzying methods to kill women in the ages... The "egregore" is a multicultural cross-dresser who laughs at inopportune fear - democratic and universal in the moment.

The rivers of blood are dealt with as the gods see fit. Dehumanization is a concept; the deed is carried by human hand.

There's this:

Bartolome de Las Casas, ca 1513. The Spaniards with their horses, their spears and lances, began to commit murders and other strange cruelties. They entered into towns and villages, sparing neither children nor old men and women. They ripped their bellies and cut them to pieces as if they had been slaughtering lambs in a field. They made bets with each other over who could thrust a sword into the middle of a man or who could cut off his head with one stroke. They took little ones by their heels and crushed their heads against the cliffs. Others they threw into the rivers laughing and mocking them as they tumbled into the water. They put everyone they met to the edge of the sword. One time I saw four or five important native nobles roasted and broiled upon makeshift grills.

And there's this:

http://www.worldproutassembly.org/gaza-116.jpg

Anguish.

That's it; that's all.


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