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w0rm 10-01-2009 10:37 PM

Newbie Seeking Guidance

mntruthseeker 10-01-2009 10:45 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance
Hello and welcome There are so many wonderful people that are here for us.

I happen to love listening to Gregg Braden and if you have the time, he explains things wonderfully.

I am currently listening to The Divine Matrix which I think you will love


You will find a list here to start off with him

You actually will have many help you in this forum Good Luck

pyrangello 10-01-2009 10:53 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance
Worm , My best recommendation is to read and ask questions as the threads progress, if you have an inquiry while a thread is moving ask or inject your thoughts to see if team avalon can punch holes in your case. In your thread your asking many questions that can veer off into so many different areas, just take it one step at a time and add your imput when you feel comfortable on your opinion and facts and let things roll out as they may .

I once dated a hair stylist, I asked her one time how do you put up with so many people everyday, she just told me you have to know how to tune out when appropriate and tune in when it's important. Avalon has many , many bright and thought provoking individuals here and I still feel like I'm a newbie as they have taken me into so many thought provoking out of the box areas that I feel I have grown 10 fold here because of them and feel very comfortable everyday exploring the world here and abroad with other individuals. Enjoy the ride , your on the launch pad sticking around here on a daily and very spiritual basis.

FIIISH 10-01-2009 10:53 PM

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Hello, and welcome to Avalon, w0rm.

I have found that there are often elements of truth to be found
in most places. Everyone has their personal truth. Collectively,
our personal truths make up the Ultimate Truth.

My suggestion to you would be to listen to your inner guidance
and be selective about what you review, and what you let in.
All things are possible, but not necessarily probable.

If you find something comes across as negative and disempowering
offering only doom and gloom with no solution, I would pass and find
something more objective that offers hope.

It is not necessary to be aware of every detail within every game within a game to have a working knowledge of what is going on here.

It is safe to say that things are most certainly NOT what they appear to be,
and irregardless of the struggles and challenges we are facing, the grander picture is indeed a wonderful sight that puts everything into perspective.

Give yourself time. If you find yourself becoming overwhelmed, step away
and enjoy your life for awhile. Everything will still be around in one form or
another when you get back. :original:

Northern Boy 10-01-2009 10:55 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance
welcome worm hope you find what it is you are looking for here I`d help you out but I may not be qualified to give you guidance on some of these matters any longer ......... NB

w0rm 10-01-2009 11:04 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance
Thanks a lot for the replies, wasn't actually expecting much of a response.

Apologies for the plethora of questions too, my mind seems to be a tad scattered at the moment!

TempestGarden 10-01-2009 11:41 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance

Originally Posted by w0rm (Post 173926)
Thanks a lot for the replies, wasn't actually expecting much of a response.

Apologies for the plethora of questions too, my mind seems to be a tad scattered at the moment!

You are currently on the same journey that I am. I have just been reading as much as I can get my hands on but I have found that some things contradict (mostly channeled stuff) and I have gone through a period of great confusion that I am still trying to come out of. I am doing a lot better than I was before though. From your first post, it looks like we have many of the same questions. I will do what I can to help you along in your journey but I honestly can't tell you were you should start. My awakening started with listening to Alex Jones. He had David Icke on at some point and that renewed my interest in UFOs/ET life. After that, I branched off in a million directions, with a million more questions in my mind that followed.

So, hang in there. This knowledge that you seek is out there, but it won't come to you overnight. You definitely have to "work" for it, for lack of a better term and give yourself permission early on to get a little confused and just know that things will become more clear as time goes on. :original:

TempestGarden 10-01-2009 11:49 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance

Originally Posted by w0rm (Post 173914)
Why has nobody mentioned these sorts of things before? Why am I only finding out about these things now?

I found this question that you posed to be the most interesting for me. There are a lot of people that are just beginning their awakening process (myself included) and you happen to also be one of those people.

As I understand it, over the next few years, a ton of people are going to be going through this whole process that you are going through and that I started at the beginning of this year. It is very possible that both of us will have important roles to play in Earth's transition in the next few years and in order for that to happen, we would have to "awaken" and re-discover the things that we used to know as fact before we were born into this lifetime and forgot all that knowledge.

So, it's entirely possible that before we were born we decided that this time in our lives we would begin our awakening process so that we would eventually have the information we need to help assist in the Earth's transition. What exactly either of our roles will be is probably not clear at this point, but I am confident that information will be revealed to each of us at some point.

TruthWillSetUFree 10-02-2009 12:06 AM

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Welcome Worm happy to see you here with us.

My search began while working for the Ron Paul campaign. From there my son started telling me about the 9-11 inconsistencies which I started researching on my own. As far as waking up to the entire scheme of the NWO, I cut my teeth on Alex Jones which is pretty intense for a newbie.
It is difficult to believe that people can be so horrifically diabolical. The fact that our lives are threatened every day through chemtrails, GMO foods, flourided water, the planned economic crisis, manufactured swine flu, and deadly vaccines, etc will shake the very core of who you are and everything you believe in since childhood. Not many have the stomach or the courage for this, so consider yourself in good company with many courageous souls on Avalon.

You are correct regarding the whistleblowers, unless they are vetted, how do we know if they are telling the truth or their own personal truth. It is wise to listen but not to hold anything as the absolute Truth. We have had a few so far, Dr Deagle and Dan Burish that became suspect very recently because of their actions.

On the other stuff, false flags etc. Because of the freedom for information act and because so much has been declassified, we are finding out more and more about the ways FBI/CIA/MI5, governments, the military etc. has had their hands in coverups, assassinations etc.

One thing to keep in mind for sure is people do lie. A good way is to research what they are all about and what they do in the world. "By their fruits you shall know them" Many have a cover up life where they look the phlianthopist type but much of their money goes to eugenics programs, like Bill Gates. So for me, it is weighing the information. It is ok to keep the information in mind but not to necessarily make a judgment about it or the person unless you have complete irrefutable truth it is so. There is really no need to make judgments on it anyway as it is what it is.

There is a much bigger picture than the 3-D manifestation of our collective shadow. This is an auspicious time in our history one which will not come again for another 26,000 years. Many of us believe, according to the Mayan, Hopi and other cultures we are entering the age of enlightenment specifically from 3-D to 4-D and possibly higher.
This is another realm you can also research to get a spiritual view of what is happening.

Planet alignments, changes in the sun and other galactic happenings are another realm to discover as the universe is very much in alignment to what is happening on the earth. There is a saying, "As above, so below"

Then there is also sacred geometry, crop circles, ET encounters, quantum physics, that again go with what is happening. I don't think there is any area untouched by the global events happening now.

We are in the age of "Ethics" and why the Truth is bubbling up to the surface at such a excelerated pace, it is also because the schuman resonance frequency of the earth is raising its vibration and time is collapsing into itself, and why time is going faster.

I wish you the very best on your seeking out the Truth. Yes it is difficult in the beginning, but I would rather live in reality than to continue the charade of deceit and lies and you have joined a good community that will support you in your search.

There is a thread on here about what places people go to find the Truth.
I will try a search for it and post it if I can find it for you. That thread is comprised of people sharing what sites they go to for their news and information.

Other than that you have the possibility to learn much here just by reading the threads, and like FIISH said if you are overwhelmed better to take a breather to find balance by doing something fun, peaceful or energetic.

Hope this helps.


TruthWillSetUFree 10-02-2009 12:22 AM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance
Here is the thread about what websites people go to for information

Just click on it and it will take you there.


orthodoxymoron 10-02-2009 12:22 AM

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:welcomeani: wOrm!

First: Get plenty of exercise and rest. Second: Learn to know when to back-off. Many of these subjects can be very heavy and draining. Third: Sample a little bit of everything...rather than latching onto one website or guru. Fourth: Get informed without getting angry or upset.

The following has been my path here on Avalon. It's sort of a road less traveled. But that might make all the difference. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...orthodoxymoron

Ross H 10-02-2009 12:32 AM

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My friend sit back, strap in and enjoy the ride!!

Great to have you here:thumb_yello:

Personally I use my logic...FOLLOW THE MONEY! Science, physics, mathematics...Esoteric, Occult (things that are hidden)

An understanding of the left and right hemispheres of the brain, and how we are conditoned to using the left side.

After a while you start to connect the dots...

FINGERPRINTS OF THE GODS, Author, Graham Handcock, A very well put together book covering Ancient mythology, Egypt and the so called History we were taught at school.

Richard Hoagland, DARK MISSION, All about the Moon, Mars, Hyper-dimension energy.

My personal opinion (for me) is the willingness to research thoroughly. Look at all possibilities, Use your logic, intuition and spend some time looking up at the universe and ponder it's magnificants...

You are here because you have questions. You have an inherent feeling all is not what it seems! follow your questions, they will lead to more questions and eventually you will start to connect the dots!

Also David Icke has been around for over 25 years studying, researching and uncovering pretty much everything so you have had a good start.

We are all happy to answer any questions to the best of our abilities.:thumb_yello:

Peace to you:original:

Enjoy the journey

GaiaLove 10-02-2009 01:50 AM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance
:welcomeani: w0rm!

It is no accident you came here and signed up, more than half of your listed interests are spiritual of nature and the rest are searches for truth. Avalon is the place for you to find some of your answers and guide you to where your going. It has for myself as well as countless other members here as well as non members who read here daily. I suggest you find your spiritual answers first, get in touch with your higher self and after that it will be easier to discern truth from deception.

Enjoy the ride and dont forget your towel!

Love, light and warmest welcome

PS seek out mudra :original:

tone3jaguar 10-02-2009 03:07 AM

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Never stop being a skeptic when it comes to unverified information. There are two categories of information. There is the interesting to think about category. Then there is the valuble to know category. Focus on the valuable to know category and forget the rest of it. Then once you have learned the valuable information go back in and start sorting through all of the sci-fi stuff. Some of which is true, some of which is made up.

Jnana 10-02-2009 04:21 AM

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Welcome to the rabbit hole. The first thing you need to know is that you have been lied to all your life about nearly everything. The second thing you need to know is that more than half the stuff you find on the internet, including Project Camelot interviews, is more lies. They way I started to sort things out was by seeking real experience. So, I started meditating, went to CSETI training and saw UFOs (and still see them), experienced telepathic contact, etc., etc. You need to develop your inner resources in order to deal with the changes you are about to experience.

One of the first things you need to do is turn off your TV. All of the mainstream media outlets, TV, magazines, newspapers, are controlled. You get the same story line no matter where you look. Didn't you notice that our governments ignore the people and only respond to the big money interest? The level of corruption is staggering. Haven't you noticed your civil liberties being whittled away by a constant message of fear? Didn't you realize that a war on terrorism can never be won? The list goes on and on.

The good news is that more and more people like you are awakening, and that will make all the difference in the world. Welcome!!!

FIIISH 10-02-2009 04:27 AM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance
Gaia Love and Jnana,

Thanks for the Hitchhiker references-and all the fish! :lmao:

TheObserver 10-02-2009 04:48 AM

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:welcomeani: w0rm, FIIISH, and all the others newer than me here!

I joined here last month after watching most of the Project Camelot videos in pretty much a marathon run after being laid off from from my job chopping and machine folding letters for a printing/mailing company.

I have also watched both Zeitgeist movies, most of Alex Jones movies, various other documentaries etc. Browse the books and videos sub-forum esp. Swanny's '100's of links' thread and 'orthodoxymoron threads'.

I come from a background of being a fan of such films and tv shows such as Star Trek, The Prisoner, Kung Fu (love the avatar, may David RIP), Star Wars, In Search Of, Cosmos, Nova etc.

I sit on the fence on most of the unprovable stuff leaning against creation stories (show me the Atlantean ruins and some Annunaki/Nephalim bones!) and towards ufos (millions of witnesses can't all be wrong!).

I also lean left politically so i sometimes feel like the hippie running around putting daisies in the guns at the gunshow on this forum :naughty:

Anyway have fun, there is lot's of good people and varying points of view to listen to here! :original:

TempestGarden 10-02-2009 05:10 AM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance

Originally Posted by Jnana (Post 173994)
The second thing you need to know is that more than half the stuff you find on the internet, including Project Camelot interviews, is more lies.

I always find it interesting when someone makes a claim like this. When I am listening to stuff online (Camelot included) I usually notice that most of the stuff I am listening to doesn't include any proof to back up the claims. But, then again, what proof do you have to offer that most of these things are indeed lies?

Really, it's all about perspective and this definitely goes both ways, although you rarely ever hear that. It's always this huge polarity of people either believing what they read/see and those that think it is nothing more than rubbish. In the end, neither side ever offers any proof to substantiate their claims and/or beliefs.

solent 10-02-2009 05:11 AM

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Hi w0rm, your in good company here :thumb_yello:

Once you enter the rabbit hole, there is no turning back.... :tongue2:

to quote from "The Matrix", "Buckle up Dorothy, Kansas is going bye bye" :mfr_omg:

Take things at your own pace, don't get too deep if you don't feel ready, or as orthodoxymoron put it, know when to back off, because some of this stuff can and will shake you up :shocked:

Steven 10-02-2009 01:59 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance
Hello W0rm and welcome. Many good advices here so I will not add more. What I would add is that you are a treasure to us and have a lot to contribute to the whole.

Especially with the courage of asking questions.

Jnana told you something I consider very precious. You have an inner source of knowledge that you will develop. It will contribute to discern what is more important for you to know and to experience now.

Namaste, Steven

Jnana 10-02-2009 02:10 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance

Originally Posted by TempestGarden (Post 174013)
But, then again, what proof do you have to offer that most of these things are indeed lies?

I'm afraid there is no proof. Proof is the wrong word. Even in science, there is no proof, only the evidence of experiments, which can be misinterpreted. I could add "IMHO" to every sentence I write, but that gets to be a bit ridiculous after a while.

Listen to the witnesses. They disagree with each other. They can't all be right now, can they? Look at the failed predictions that have been made. How many people got all worked up about these?

Now is it possible to know for a fact that these are intentional lies rather than the result of different points of view and the limitations of language? Not really, but the effect on someone seeking the truth is the same - they get nowhere. So, if it's not true, I'm calling it a lie. It may not be the fault of the messenger who is simply misinformed. They are passing along a lie, but they may not be aware of it.

There are, however, plenty of disinformation agents who are out to mislead people. Even in disinformation there is information, if you can figure out what they are trying to sell you and why.

Here's the kicker. I'm not going to tell you who to believe and who to disregard. No one knows all the answers. Some of what they say may be correct, and some may be garbage. I place some of what my most trusted sources have to say into the "TBD" pile because I have no independent way of confirming it at this point in my own development.

This is a really difficult problem. As others have recommended, the best approach is to develop yourself spiritually first. Develop your intuition. Seek out first-hand knowledge.

TheObserver 10-02-2009 04:25 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance

So far I've watched a couple of interviews on the Project Camelot Youtube Channel, Dr. Pete Peterson's and David Icke's to be specific.
Let me add this post script to my earlier comments:

Those two interviews are the first and last of the PC interviews i had watched (well at least at the time of the Peterson interview so not to slight the recent Jane Burgermeister interview).
Dave Icke's interview was the first PC interview i ever saw.
I found it looking for vids on Icke after watching the documentary 'The Lizards and The Jews' because it popped up on the google video home page 'top videos' listing.
So basically Dave Icke introduced me to Project Camelot.
And of course Pete Peterson was the much delayed and therefor hyped most recent big interview.
But anyway to my real point here, the Dave and Pete interviews are also representative of two ends of a different spectrum.
As much as there is the concept of 'service to self' and 'service to others', there is also the concept of 'something to say' and 'something to sell'.
But i'll let people decide on their own which one's which. :smoke:

w0rm 10-02-2009 06:14 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance
Thanks so much for all of your replies, as I've said in a few PM's I feel a real sense of community with this forum.

I appreciate all the links and I'll be certain to bookmark them for future readings.

rhythm 10-02-2009 06:25 PM

Re: Newbie Seeking Guidance
Wecome Worm :welcomeani:

just be here now in avalon

you WILL learn all you need to know

trust me ... your keen and willing

and already popular


you fitting in real nice :original:

see you around the forum

ita a great trip injoy :thumb_yello:

there are loads of meditations

a good one to start with is on the in and out breath

go to utube or google and investigate my friend ..
type in meditation....:wink2:

love to you from me ... rhythmmm ....:wub2:..

Swanny 10-02-2009 07:00 PM

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Hello Worm glad you could make it :original:

Ever since I was a small boy I have been questioning what this life is about and have come to the conclusion that nothing is as it seems so I don't believe anything anymore just some things seem more believable than others, for all I know I could wake up tomorrow morning in a completely different time and space and this could all be a dream.

But in this reality the one thing I do believe is that the governments of the world lie to us time and time again. Now if they say something I look for the opposite to see if I can find out what really happened.
There are a few links here that you might like http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=10992

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