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judykott 03-17-2009 03:49 AM

Germany Admits Military is doing Chemtrails
 
Short video on the news from Germany

http://www.blinkx.com/video/germany-...8GRBPBQZrDaNQQ

Steve_G 03-17-2009 09:05 AM

Re: Germany Admits Military is doing Chemtrails
 
Can anyone who speaks German confirm that the text matches the audio please?

Steve_A 03-17-2009 09:07 AM

Re: Germany Admits Military is doing Chemtrails
 
Hi judykott,

A very interesting video, from a national TV station at that.

This could develop into a scandal if the military are found to be doing something illegal.

We will have to wait and see what the last guy on the video will do in regards to his action.

Best regards,

Steve




Quote:

Originally Posted by judykott (Post 120689)
Short video on the news from Germany

http://www.blinkx.com/video/germany-...8GRBPBQZrDaNQQ


Steve_A 03-17-2009 09:08 AM

Re: Germany Admits Military is doing Chemtrails
 
Hi Steve_G,

I can speak broken German and what I understood was correct.

Best regards,

Steve


Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_G (Post 120715)
Can anyone who speaks German confirm that the text matches the audio please?


Steve_G 03-17-2009 09:52 AM

Re: Germany Admits Military is doing Chemtrails
 
Thanks dude, I'll pass that on to a few people. :original:

avyaktam 03-17-2009 11:10 AM

Re: Germany Admits Military is doing Chemtrails
 
The only thing more or less officially admitted here is that during two military exercises particles where put into the sky to fool radar systems.
For the rest , some room is given to 'critics' and 'greens' to talk about weather manipulation and pollution.

Malletzky 03-18-2009 05:30 PM

Re: Germany Admits Military is doing Chemtrails
 
This video is not new, I already saw this last year on internet too...And as I can tell, nothing similar was ever presented on any german TV again.

According to the radar measurements, they speek about tons of dispersed materials...according to the military, it was only a very small amount, with no healthy threats for us...

who's telling the truth?

malletzky

blastawaycas 03-18-2009 08:53 PM

Re: Germany Admits Military is doing Chemtrails
 
I READ AN ARTICAL A FEW YEARS BACK THAT THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT UNDER HAROLD WILSON ALLOWED THE RELEASE OF THE FLU VIRUS OVER THE NORTH SEA AND MEASURED ITS DRIFT INLAND (WITH THE AMOUNT FLU OUTBREAKS) ALL ALONG THE EAST COAST OF ENGLAND, THE IDEA BEING THAT IN THE EVENT OF NUCLEAR WAR THE GOVERNMENT WANTED TO KNOW THE POSSIBLE DRIFT OF RADIATION.........AS APPARENTLY ONE OF THE FIRST NUKES AIMED AT THE UK WAS OVER THE NORTH SEA CAUSING AN EMP KNOCKING OUT COMMUNICATIONS ect. I ALSO KNOW MIDDLESBROUGH WAS NUMBER 2 ON THE USSR's LIST !, SO I THINK IT IS NOT BEYOND COMPREHENSION FOR GOVERNMENTS ALL OVER THE WORLD TO DO SIMILAR EXERCISES ............ KINDEST REGARDS DAVE CASTER :thumb_yello::thumb_yello:

peaceandlove 03-24-2009 10:09 PM

Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations

For all those activists who have been investigating and reporting on clandestine government operations around the world to manipulate our weather patterns, this news from Germany is groundbreaking.

The TV news report states that “the military planes of the German Federal Army are manipulating our climate; this is what the weather researchers are presuming and their suspicions are confirmed…

“We can state with a 97% certainty that we have on our hands chemical trails (chemtrails) comprised by fine dust containing polymers and metals, used to disrupt radar signals.”

Article continues, photos and videos: http://www.chycho.com/?q=Chemtrails

P4BL0 03-29-2009 06:18 AM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
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henners 03-29-2009 06:40 AM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Well done Peaceandlove. And you PAblo, just earlier today i wa walking my dogs and noticed lots of chemtrails appearing around our skies. And last night on the way home, there were no clouds in the sky at all. A trail went right around from one end of the horizon to the other and just stayed there . Very strange indeed.......:shocked:

Henry

Dantheman62 03-29-2009 06:40 AM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Wow go on that link and click on the link in there about Bill HR 2977, and look at Sec. 7
Sub Sec. (B) It states right there that they are not supposed to be doing this!

Dantheman62 03-29-2009 06:47 AM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Oh and P4BLO where have you been? It's been awhile!

avyaktam 03-29-2009 06:52 AM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Wow that is intense chem trailing.
We can consider ourselves lucky in this respect here in south india. Only once saw a small trail here.

Phtha 03-29-2009 07:06 AM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Wow thats alot of chem trails. I thought it was bad where I was but I never seen that much here. Keep positive and you can


I read somewhere that barium is one of the substances in the trails. If that is true, it must be something to do with haarp type stations. Barium is a dielectric with an extremely high K value, the highest of all if I'm not mistaken.
A dielectric is just a fancy word for an insulator such as plastic, which does not conduct(electrode) electricity such as copper.

An interesting thing about dielectrics is that they store electric charges (creat an electric field) when placed between to charged electrodes.
Eg.
a piece of cardboard(dielecric) between two pieces of tinfoil(electrodes)
If you charge the pieces of tin the cardboard would store a charge and create an electric field, although I don't think carboard would store much(low K value).
This is what most capacitors are by the way, two electrodes with a dielectric between them.

So back to the point, If they are spraying barium which has a high K value, then that means it can store much more electric charge. But I wonder where the electrodes are? Maybe the ionosphere acts as one or something of this nature?

For those that want to know the math behind the k value this is for you, I'm quoting Paul A Laviolette from one of his books:

"
Explaining the Dielectric Constant, K

Often the permittivity of a dielectric is expressed in terms of the dielectric constant K of the material, which is the ration of its permittivity to the permittivity of empty space, Eo = 8.85 x 10 to the power of -12 farads per meter: that is K = E/Eo. So if two capacitors are compared, one having a dielectric between its electrodes with a tenfold-higher K value, and if both capacitors are charged to the same voltage, the capacitor with the higher K dielectric will be able to store 10 times as much electric charge. K values can range from near unity, such as the value for air, to more than 20,000 for certain ceramic compounds. Led monoxide has a K value of 26. Some cermic compounds such as barium titante, not only can have a very high dielectric constant, ranging from 2000 to 10,000 K, but they also happen to be quite heavy, More recently, a ceramic compound called barium zirconium titanate (also known as BZT), which also is quite massive, has been found to have a dielectric constant of 23,000.

Dantheman62 03-29-2009 07:30 AM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Barium is also used in a lot of x-rays.......

Barium sulfate is frequently used clinically as a radiocontrast agent for X-ray imaging and other diagnostic procedures. It is most often used in imaging of the GI tract during what is colloquially known as a 'Barium meal'.

It is administered, orally or by enema, as a suspension of fine particles in an aqueous solution (often with sweetening agents added). Although barium is a heavy metal, and its water-soluble compounds are often highly toxic, the extremely low solubility of barium sulfate protects the patient from absorbing harmful amounts of the metal. Barium sulfate is also readily removed from the body, unlike Thorotrast, which it replaced. Due to the relatively high atomic number (Z = 56) of barium, its compounds absorb X-rays more strongly than compounds derived from lighter nuclei.

Dantheman62 03-29-2009 07:34 AM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
And this...

Barium sulfate is used as a filler in plastics and as a component of oil well drilling fluid to increase the density. It is used in Episal salt.

It is used in brake linings, anacoustic foams and powder coatings

Barium sulfate is also used during the procedure of the soil pH test. In this test it is used so that it precipitates out any particles (usually clay particles) which would otherwise 'cloud' solution preventing one from seeing the colour of the pH indicator i.e. the result of the test.

It is used in root canal filling.

In colorimetry barium sulfate is used as a near-perfect diffuser when measuring light sources.

In photography it is used as a coating for certain photographic papers.

In metal casting, the moulds used are often coated with barium sulfate in order to prevent the molten metal from bonding with the mould.

peaceandlove 03-29-2009 07:54 AM

Chemtrails Updates June 2008
 
Wow Pablo :mfr_omg:,

That's very dense. Some of those close ups are very artistic, unfortunately, deadly.

The following information I picked up somewhere, having a bit of a challenge these days remembering where I find these articles.

Chemtrails anyone? :insane::badmood::hypo:

Some days it's clear here others, NOT. I've even seen them in the night skies.

PaL :lightsabre:


CHEMTRAILS UPDATES JUNE 2008

By William Thomas

My thanks to everyone for sending in your chemtrails emails - like this one from “Sandra” (not her real name):


MERCENARIES HARASS CHEMTRAILS RESEARCHER IN FLORIDA

“Sandra” started out “trying to figure out the chemtrails” in November 2007. Debilitated with Lyme disease, she was directing a conference when some researchers concerned for her health and exposure told her about chemtrails.

A few months ago, Sandra went to the mayor, chief of police and county commissioner near Tampa, Florida with her pictures of chemtrails over the Tampa, Florida area - and chemtrails complaint. The county commissioner went to see Senator Bill Young, and the state congressional Representative.

The chemtrails stopped.

“They weren't completely blatant. They would go out into the gulf and spray and let them come in,” Sandra explained. “They're not spraying directly anymore,” she reconfirmed. “They're sneaky about it. When it's getting ready to rain, they'll spray above the clouds.”

Sandra knows a “very well known microbiologist who has three dead friends” and whom she does not reveal to anyone. Using a 20,000-power microscope he looked at her samples of chemtrails fallout caught in a sterile dish in her front yard - not rain, but actual powder falling from the sky.

“That's what fell outside of the house that day,” she explains. “Literally on those heavy days you can write your name on your car. The worst days, when people feel bad and there are a lot of accidents, we have a pink haze.”

Sandra describes the chemtrails fallout she collected as “dirty, fibery, like crusted salt kind of stuff. You could see these fibers with you eyes.”

One colorful microscope slide photograph she sent me shows the twists of what could be a “viral capsid.” Sandra says of her microbiologist friend, “He had never seen anything like it.”

But the microbiologist “didn't feel comfortable just looking at It,” she relates. “I would want whatever I do for you to stand up in a court of law,” he told her. But “I can't identify what I don't know.”

Still, he was seeing all kinds of people coming in with the same health issues. And he was certain it was from the chemtrails. “He's mad about them,” Sandra says. “Though he can't prove that.”

The Nematodes found in her blood samples - “basically like a worm” - were real enough. And implicated in MS and Lupus. “We killed them and I'm good to go,” Sandra now says.

But when she took her chemtrail fallout sample to an EPA-approved lab, it had to be diluted five times in order to get a reading. The Aluminum measured in the fallout was literally off the scale - “out of range and abnormal” as the lab told Sandra. But so many of the health safety limits have been changed or removed, she couldn't even find EPA safety levels for the levels of barium also recorded by the lab. The arsenic levels - most likely from contaminated groundwater - were extremely high.

Article continues: http://www.willthomasonline.net/will...June_2008.html

Chemtrails Confirmed: http://www.willthomasonline.net/will...CONFIRMED.html

peaceandlove 03-29-2009 08:02 AM

Inhaled a chip lately? Chemtrail's & Government
 
Inhaled a chip lately? Chemtrail's & Government

SUNDAY, APRIL 20, 2008

Excerpt:

Quote:

Smart dust is not a sound sensor, but it is very small; it is particle size. Smart dust particles are about the width of a human hair. It can be chemically programed to target a specific substance and to self-assemble or stick to it. It changes color to indicate that it has found the targeted substance. It can be used for almost, microscopic tags placed in items or stuck to the clothing of people.(29) Mike Blair and other chemtrail-aware people have noticed that chemtrail fibers often display barbs on their surfaces.(30) In “Hit ’Em Where It Hurts,” we read:

Like prickly cockleburs, tiny sensors would cling to certain humans, effectively tagging them for continuous tracking via overhead platforms.(31)

Domestic security companies may soon be using state of the art ground sensors that can sniff a molecule out of the air and can taste and identify a molecule – “nano–noses” and “nano–tongues.”(32) These can be handy for sniffing cocaine or marijuana molecules wafting of folks as they return home or enter buildings. Nano-noses and nano-tongues can be scanned by light or energy and will change color just like the ground sensors from 2025: “When irradiated by ultraviolet or X-ray energy, these organic changes can be scanned and analyzed by overhead sensors.”(33)

Experts are working on trying to develop sensors that can identify and track people by their unique, personal odor.(34) The authors of “Hit ’Em Where It Hurts” would like sensors to become small enough in the future to be able to send them to you through the mail(35) and use “hordes” of acoustic sensors for extrapolating pictures of structures through seismic mapping in conjunction with magnetic resonance imaging (MRI).(36)

. . . the importance of visual sensors may decrease in 2025 as the strategic attack process relies more on nonlethal methods of attack. In this case, non-traditional sensors that can hear, smell, or taste become essential by providing important bits of data . . . to piece together the effectiveness of an attack.(37)

How could the Air Force “Hit ‘Em Where It Hurts”?

A standoff system loitering along . . . at 50,000 feet can stare 230 miles downrange at an LOV and provide continuous one meter resolution. . . . In addition, a low observable UAV that loiters directly over a specific area will carry sensors that provide continuous one centimeter resolution.(38

These UAVs are the link in the chain that connects to transatmospheric jets, space platforms, and satellites. These space-based assets would send and receive to and from super computers that are located in relay stations on the ground or in orbit. A new satellite radar called MIRIAH(39) can see through most buildings, at night, and in any weather returning a 3-D, any angle, close to real-time image. UAVs can look like dragonflies,(40) birds,(41) helicopters,(42) planes,(43) or even cubes.(44) Activists in Washington, D.C. recently spotted dragonfly UAVs surveilling a protest. They can be powered by hydrogen,(45) solar,(46) fuel-cell, batteries, or a combination thereof.(47) They can hang on an electric line to recharge(48) or be powered up by wi-fi microwave.(49) They can see you, but they can also transmit data. There is even technology that can cloak them so that you, satellites, or radar can not see them.(50)

As a more economical model, space mirrors can be used to bounce data from UAVs to ground stations.(51) A plasma mirror can also be created by a microwave heater beam station that heats the atmosphere, and this plasma area can be used just like a mirror. A Dr. Eastlund pioneered this technology. His work with the HAARP ionospheric heater was sponsored by ARCO, a major aluminum producer which is owned by British Petroleum.(52) Oddly, chemtrails have a lot of aluminum particulates.
Complete article: http://st0ckman.blogspot.com/2008/04...hemtrails.html

peaceandlove 03-29-2009 08:12 AM

Time Out Examines Chemtrails
 
Time Out Examines Chemtrails

Youtube
Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Time Out Productions presents a two part interview on chemtrails with chemtrail researcher John Brennan and Sandy Brueti of northern Connecticut.

Videos: http://www.infowars.net/articles/jul...Chemtrails.htm

Orion11 03-29-2009 08:18 AM

Re: Time Out Examines Chemtrails
 
jesus christ man..:lightsabre:

thanks for this thread.
good finds everyone.. :wub2:

oldpaganfreak 03-29-2009 04:00 PM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peaceandlove (Post 122937)
Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations

For all those activists who have been investigating and reporting on clandestine government operations around the world to manipulate our weather patterns, this news from Germany is groundbreaking.

The TV news report states that “the military planes of the German Federal Army are manipulating our climate; this is what the weather researchers are presuming and their suspicions are confirmed…

“We can state with a 97% certainty that we have on our hands chemical trails (chemtrails) comprised by fine dust containing polymers and metals, used to disrupt radar signals.”

Article continues, photos and videos: http://www.chycho.com/?q=Chemtrails

i do find this stuff interesting. i have never seen a chemtrail. they don't seem to be interested in spraying in northern alberta. they seem to concentrate on higher population areas. i still don't know what to think.

are they spraying in canada at all?

Phtha 03-29-2009 05:07 PM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak (Post 124344)

are they spraying in canada at all?

Oh yes, we get them a steady 5 days a week here in the middle of Vancouver Island. I've seen many days where a clear blue sky turned hazy because of constant chemtrail spraying.
I've also seen them all around the mainland from Vancouver right up to Kelowna.
Kelowna had them worse then Vancouver Island.

I have also seen them in Edmonton, I'm quite surprised you don't see them up in northern Alberta.

oldpaganfreak 03-29-2009 05:30 PM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phtha (Post 124357)
Oh yes, we get them a steady 5 days a week here in the middle of Vancouver Island. I've seen many days where a clear blue sky turned hazy because of constant chemtrail spraying.
I've also seen them all around the mainland from Vancouver right up to Kelowna.
Kelowna had them worse then Vancouver Island.

I have also seen them in Edmonton, I'm quite surprised you don't see them up in northern Alberta.

i can't see what isn't there. a few jets do fly over most days, but very high up, always on the same course and rarely leave contrails, but when they do, they dissipate quickly.

anyone else from alberta that can comment?

Phtha 03-29-2009 06:41 PM

Re: Germany Becomes the First Country to Admit Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldpaganfreak (Post 124363)
i can't see what isn't there. a few jets do fly over most days, but very high up, always on the same course and rarely leave contrails, but when they do, they dissipate quickly.

anyone else from alberta that can comment?

Sorry Pagan I should have said I'm surprised they are not up in northern Alberta, not that you don't see them. :zip:

My father is actually up near faust, a little south of high prairy I believe. I'll ask him what he noticed in his area next time I talk with him.


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