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GregorArturo 10-07-2008 04:12 AM

Torsion and Math
 
So I've been working on a Unified Theory of Torsion, in respects to everything that is, based solely on mathematics. I'm wondering if people could share whatever knowledge they might have on this, articles, websites, whatever.

To understand what I am talking about, think about the periodic table:
Aluminum - 13
Copper - 29
Silver - 47
Gold - 79
Bismuth - 83

These metals are all spiritually significant metals, especially when applied to torsion creating devices (orgonite). What do they have in common?

They are all prime numbers! I even came across an interesting new alloy in terms of its geometric shape that I believe is Al84V16. Vandium is 23 which is also a prime number, and the molecule is made out of exactly 100 atoms. Just a side note from this week.

Then there's the interesting sum of primes, including these, with 12 factored numbers (60,72,84,90,96, each have a total of 12 factors, all are also divisible by 12 except for 90).

13+47=60 (60 is a very interesting number, the smallest most dynamic number below 100)
13+83=96
7+83=90
There's a ton more but that's all I can recall at the moment (I left my little ;p)

And for those Galaxy guide lovers:
13+29=42 (I thought this was interesting as Al and Cu seem to be the most sensitive of alloys that create torsion, so the answer to the universe haha)

Anyways, what I'm also getting to is the idea of how mathematical this existence may be. Aluminum could be the physical manifestation of the number 13 and all its properties.

All organic life supposedly attracts torsion. The question I have is that do to carbon, some specific geometry, what?

Carbon's number is 6, also known as the number of man in the bible. There is the noted honeycomb effect which is based on pattern of hexagons. Question I have here is the relation, and also the full implications of the honeycomb effect, something I myself haven't come to terms with fully in concept in that it pulls torsion away from living organisms and from the earth? Does that mean it's just a more efficient design than normal organic life attracting torsion?

I could keep going on with this, and many tangents. So you got the idea. Any knowledge toward this in any form would be appreciated!

333mark333 10-07-2008 04:22 AM

Re: Torsion and Math
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GregorArturo (Post 41683)
So I've been working on a Unified Theory of Torsion, in respects to everything that is, based solely on mathematics. I'm wondering if people could share whatever knowledge they might have on this, articles, websites, whatever.

To understand what I am talking about, think about the periodic table:
Aluminum - 13
Copper - 29
Silver - 47
Gold - 79
Bismuth - 83

These metals are all spiritually significant metals, especially when applied to torsion creating devices (orgonite). What do they have in common?

They are all prime numbers! I even came across an interesting new alloy in terms of its geometric shape that I believe is Al84V16. Vandium is 23 which is also a prime number, and the molecule is made out of exactly 100 atoms. Just a side note from this week.

Then there's the interesting sum of primes, including these, with 12 factored numbers (60,72,84,90,96, each have a total of 12 factors, all are also divisible by 12 except for 90).

13+47=60 (60 is a very interesting number, the smallest most dynamic number below 100)
13+83=96
7+83=90
There's a ton more but that's all I can recall at the moment (I left my little ;p)

And for those Galaxy guide lovers:
13+29=42 (I thought this was interesting as Al and Cu seem to be the most sensitive of alloys that create torsion, so the answer to the universe haha)

Anyways, what I'm also getting to is the idea of how mathematical this existence may be. Aluminum could be the physical manifestation of the number 13 and all its properties.

All organic life supposedly attracts torsion. The question I have is that do to carbon, some specific geometry, what?

Carbon's number is 6, also known as the number of man in the bible. There is the noted honeycomb effect which is based on pattern of hexagons. Question I have here is the relation, and also the full implications of the honeycomb effect, something I myself haven't come to terms with fully in concept in that it pulls torsion away from living organisms and from the earth? Does that mean it's just a more efficient design than normal organic life attracting torsion?

I could keep going on with this, and many tangents. So you got the idea. Any knowledge toward this in any form would be appreciated!

Catching your drift.... will have to do some research and get back to you. :)

unlimited mind 10-07-2008 04:25 AM

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:biggrin2: you rock! i just got some bismuth a few days ago, as a side note.

but i think this is what being an organaut does to one's mind. :mfr_lol: it turns one into a mad scientist as your brain seems to have a strong connection to a certain energy information stream.

i really appreciate you posting this gregor, as i am not a mathematician but i have a big crush on torsion. :wub2:

GregorArturo 10-07-2008 04:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unlimited mind (Post 41694)
:biggrin2: you rock! i just got some bismuth a few days ago, as a side note.

but i think this is what being an organaut does to one's mind. :mfr_lol: it turns one into a mad scientist as your brain seems to have a strong connection to a certain energy information stream.

i really appreciate you posting this gregor, as i am not a mathematician but i have a big crush on torsion. :wub2:

Let us know how the bismuth works for ya! There has been only two thoughts in my head lately: Preparing for all this, and then torsion and more torsion!

Man, my dream for years was to built a fully electric ultralight so I could fly anywhere unhindered, like Fly away Home, but instead of ducks and smiling gas. I might substitute for some ospreys though. That'd be cool. I feel though with Torsion this could be right at our finger tips.

Stop drooling now, Gregor.

Animos 10-07-2008 04:39 AM

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GregorArturo,

If you understand the power of the numbers 3 6 and 9 you'll get the key of the universe!



http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3485
(Just skip first 20min if you find "hard" times listening to some BS)

Let me know if you'll get some "clues" and if you would need some more explanations.

unlimited mind 10-07-2008 05:04 AM

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drooling aside, here are some of my ramblings on torsion from earlier in the day. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...1137#post41137.

goo goo ga ga

nuxa 10-07-2008 09:22 PM

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hello :original:

I fancy stuff like this, I never get tired of staring at sacred Geometry and platonic solids. The Torsion field I feel is the Holy Grail of knowledge of some sort. If you havent heard of Marko Rodin and his Vortex Based Mathematics you can find info about him here:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...ICR-080120.php

-nux-

tone3jaguar 10-08-2008 07:59 AM

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You should listen to "The Science of Peace" by David Wilcock. He goes into depth about the history of Torsian Physics. Also check out the book "Dark Mission" by Richard Hoagland. He also has a great chapter on torsian physics.

GregorArturo 10-08-2008 01:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 43546)
You should listen to "The Science of Peace" by David Wilcock. He goes into depth about the history of Torsian Physics. Also check out the book "Dark Mission" by Richard Hoagland. He also has a great chapter on torsian physics.

Thanks Tone3. It was David's Divine Cosmos that really brought me on board with Torsion physics. Very mind blowing. Otherwise thanks for the sources.

-- ---------------

I did make a discovery to connect Rodin's work with prime numbers, my current area of focus. In essence I am trying to figure out why some numbers may be more sacred than others in a mathematical sense, such as prime numbers or numbers with high number of factors like 60. Well, taking both of those ideas I came up with this. I am not sure if anyone has every realized the factor relationship with prime numbers before, but I discovered it right after an intense meditation session last night heh.

Number on left is prime number.
1: 1 = 1 (1 factor)
2: 1 x 2 = 2 (2 factors)
3: 1 x 2 x 3 = 6 (4 factors)
5: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 = 30 (8 factors)
7: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 = 210 (16 factors)
11: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 = 2310 (32 factors)
13: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 x 13 = 30030 (64 factors)
17: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 x 13 x 17 = 510510 (128 factors)
19: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 x 13 x 17 x 19 = 9699690 (256 factors)

Then this connects with Rodin's work:
1 = 1
2 = 2
4 = 4
8 = 8
1 + 6 = 7
3 + 2 = 5
6 + 4 = 10, 1 + 0 = 1
1 + 2 + 8 = 11, 1 + 1 = 2
2 + 5 + 6 = 13, 1 + 3 = 4

Note though, one is not considered a prime number. They say a prime is a number only divisible by one and itself. It makes more sense to say a prime is a number that has only two factors. Most numbers have 4 or more even number of factors. Two square numbers have three, and all the other square numbers have an odd set of factors. One is the only number that has one factor. The barrier between prime and non-prime numbers could be more like Prime numbers > Factors of 2. But ya, hopefully not way over your heads.

mikey 10-08-2008 01:36 PM

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This is an interesting article on torison..hope u enjoy it
http://www.eioba.com/a85528/torsion_...hipov_and_heim
peace
mikey

GregorArturo 10-09-2008 03:46 AM

Re: Torsion and Math
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey (Post 43797)
This is an interesting article on torison..hope u enjoy it
http://www.eioba.com/a85528/torsion_...hipov_and_heim
peace
mikey

Thanks a ton for that Mikey! I just finished reading it. Def filled in some holes for me that I haven't picked up elsewhere, and I'm glad it was much more physics focused than say orgonite technology focused.

I assumed with it being called torsion, relating with torque, it was spin related but couldn't fully figure out why. It makes physics make much more sense, and life in itself, really does.

It made me think. I am a poi spinner, so in essence I am generating torsion when I do that. Imagining if I could make all the movements geometric movements, like with tai chi you could say, following the golden ratio. And then also spinning orgonite. Hell, when I'm spinning fire, its fire and pure organic material going up. Heh, go figure.

day 10-14-2008 06:50 PM

Re: Torsion and Math
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GregorArturo (Post 41683)
So I've been working on a Unified Theory of Torsion, in respects to everything that is, based solely on mathematics. I'm wondering if people could share whatever knowledge they might have on this, articles, websites, whatever.

To understand what I am talking about, think about the periodic table:
Aluminum - 13
Copper - 29
Silver - 47
Gold - 79
Bismuth - 83

These metals are all spiritually significant metals, especially when applied to torsion creating devices (orgonite). What do they have in common?

They are all prime numbers! I even came across an interesting new alloy in terms of its geometric shape that I believe is Al84V16. Vandium is 23 which is also a prime number, and the molecule is made out of exactly 100 atoms. Just a side note from this week.

Then there's the interesting sum of primes, including these, with 12 factored numbers (60,72,84,90,96, each have a total of 12 factors, all are also divisible by 12 except for 90).

13+47=60 (60 is a very interesting number, the smallest most dynamic number below 100)
13+83=96
7+83=90
There's a ton more but that's all I can recall at the moment (I left my little ;p)

And for those Galaxy guide lovers:
13+29=42 (I thought this was interesting as Al and Cu seem to be the most sensitive of alloys that create torsion, so the answer to the universe haha)

Anyways, what I'm also getting to is the idea of how mathematical this existence may be. Aluminum could be the physical manifestation of the number 13 and all its properties.

All organic life supposedly attracts torsion. The question I have is that do to carbon, some specific geometry, what?

Carbon's number is 6, also known as the number of man in the bible. There is the noted honeycomb effect which is based on pattern of hexagons. Question I have here is the relation, and also the full implications of the honeycomb effect, something I myself haven't come to terms with fully in concept in that it pulls torsion away from living organisms and from the earth? Does that mean it's just a more efficient design than normal organic life attracting torsion?

I could keep going on with this, and many tangents. So you got the idea. Any knowledge toward this in any form would be appreciated!



You have touched on an area about Sir Isaac Newton that you may be aware of regarding alchemy. He had researched into this field avidly and wrote extensively including an analysis of Thoth's Emerald Tablets
here is the link
http://www.alchemylab.com/isaac_newton.htm

Newton's alchemy manuscript has been found and if you have access to a university (which focuses on sciences) there would be a good chance you could find some articles either pertaining to his research or some of the papers that have been posted for academia.

Newton kept his work hidden, safely secret as it was at this time the dark ages settled over the land.

His work would have included thoughts like yours regarding not only the numbers themselves but their spiritual 'velocity'.

Marko Rodin has taken off with his spiritual insight into the abstract world of math and can be found in a 44 part series. His torus application calling it vortex based mathematics. He is now developing a five year math curriculum to teach his new math by request of the state of Hawaii

You can find videos on his site
www.markorodin.com

youtube search his name and you will find many of his videos.

the vedic maths use graphs which is another application to what you were finding out yourself.

Its a fascinating field with new developments all the time and recently I have taking a look at Hoaglands hyperdimensional maths to explain unusual anomalies in recent hurricanes.

Good luck and have a fantastic journey.

GregorArturo 10-15-2008 03:08 PM

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Thanks Day! I discovered the Emerald Tablet a couple years ago, and I def consider to be one of most important pieces of writing, especially of such a small size, from our history (Most famous historicals pieces are whole books like the Iliad, Gilgamesh, and the Vedas).

Just to let you know, several other posts in this thread have already introduced me to Mark Rodin. If you read my latest post, it shares how I connected my work with prime numbers with his. Obviously, their is an overall pattern to life.

day 10-20-2008 05:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GregorArturo (Post 52032)
Thanks Day! I discovered the Emerald Tablet a couple years ago, and I def consider to be one of most important pieces of writing, especially of such a small size, from our history (Most famous historicals pieces are whole books like the Iliad, Gilgamesh, and the Vedas).

Just to let you know, several other posts in this thread have already introduced me to Mark Rodin. If you read my latest post, it shares how I connected my work with prime numbers with his. Obviously, their is an overall pattern to life.


Hi Mark
I think your field of interest is fascinating and found this site regarding mensionization in the Emerald Tables--
http://www.alchemylab.com/quantum3.htm

day

day 10-20-2008 05:24 AM

Re: Torsion and Math
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GregorArturo (Post 43792)
Thanks Tone3. It was David's Divine Cosmos that really brought me on board with Torsion physics. Very mind blowing. Otherwise thanks for the sources.

-----------------

I did make a discovery to connect Rodin's work with prime numbers, my current area of focus. In essence I am trying to figure out why some numbers may be more sacred than others in a mathematical sense, such as prime numbers or numbers with high number of factors like 60. Well, taking both of those ideas I came up with this. I am not sure if anyone has every realized the factor relationship with prime numbers before, but I discovered it right after an intense meditation session last night heh.

Number on left is prime number.
1: 1 = 1 (1 factor)
2: 1 x 2 = 2 (2 factors)
3: 1 x 2 x 3 = 6 (4 factors)
5: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 = 30 (8 factors)
7: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 = 210 (16 factors)
11: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 = 2310 (32 factors)
13: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 x 13 = 30030 (64 factors)
17: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 x 13 x 17 = 510510 (128 factors)
19: 1 x 2 x 3 x 5 x 7 x 11 x 13 x 17 x 19 = 9699690 (256 factors)

Then this connects with Rodin's work:
1 = 1
2 = 2
4 = 4
8 = 8
1 + 6 = 7
3 + 2 = 5
6 + 4 = 10, 1 + 0 = 1
1 + 2 + 8 = 11, 1 + 1 = 2
2 + 5 + 6 = 13, 1 + 3 = 4

Note though, one is not considered a prime number. They say a prime is a number only divisible by one and itself. It makes more sense to say a prime is a number that has only two factors. Most numbers have 4 or more even number of factors. Two square numbers have three, and all the other square numbers have an odd set of factors. One is the only number that has one factor. The barrier between prime and non-prime numbers could be more like Prime numbers > Factors of 2. But ya, hopefully not way over your heads.

Hi Mike I agree with you in your definition for the view of a prime number having two factors means really that our defining understanding and articulation should in fact have a few that is no longer linear. In support of your research and speculation id suggest an overview of how numbers and their definition can be interpreted with a 'holistic' view of their true functions.

if we dont fuss over the classics' hierarchy then we could proceed with vital creative thought.

here is Walter Russells table of elements
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/8989/russtbl.gif

I believe he and you are on the same path of understanding.

here is his paper on the 'electric universe and 9 harp strings
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/8989/radio.gif

and an overview of some of his work from the University of Physics and Philosophy
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/8989/

Walter Russell is a scientist whose work was used by Ralph Ring (interviewed by project camelot) Ring was able to build a spaceship which levitated -- during the interview Ring discloses how his project was scrapped by the gov.


Hassim Haramein also reflects on Russells work and has developed a new unified field theory which has drawn the attention of Nasa.

http://www.theresonanceproject.org/research.html
papers for peer review

http://www.theresonanceproject.org/pdf/torque_paper.pdf


while these men have in some cases like Newton developed new maths such as calculus-- often their work focused more on theory like Einstein.

I wonder if you may be on your way to developing a new math, understanding of math and applications thereof?


great thread!
day

ABHA 11-02-2008 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GregorArturo (Post 52032)
Thanks Day! I discovered the Emerald Tablet a couple years ago, and I def consider to be one of most important pieces of writing, especially of such a small size, from our history (Most famous historicals pieces are whole books like the Iliad, Gilgamesh, and the Vedas).

Just to let you know, several other posts in this thread have already introduced me to Mark Rodin. If you read my latest post, it shares how I connected my work with prime numbers with his. Obviously, their is an overall pattern to life.

Got to admit how this is over my head, but you sound like the guy this info could help.. hope it does:winksmiley02:


http://www.themeasuringsystemofthegods.com/

isotelesis 11-02-2008 04:11 PM

Re: Torsion and Math
 
Look into Clifford Algebras, Finsler Geometry, Topology, Brane worlds, Commutativity, Holonomy, Isometry, Hypersurfaces, Calabai-Yau Orbifolds.

http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/QuanCon.html
http://quantumfuture.net/quantum_future/JadCon.htm
http://www.math.tntech.edu/rafal/coo...nvitedForm.pdf
http://www.springerlink.com/content/u0p3l78n66v65307/

GregorArturo 11-03-2008 02:34 AM

Re: Torsion and Math
 
Thanks for sharing! I am definitely going to check them out.

I got a couple questions if people can help me out with them.

So I've recently confirmed that cubic lattice structures (all metal substances, grids such as cities!) degrade cellular life, while hexagonal (triangular) lattice structures (carbon, quartz, honey comb) encourage/aid cellular life.

If you've read some of my work, I've been trying to understand this much more through mathematics and physics more as a supplement to the mathematics (when its usually the other way around). However, my personal research or say experimentation has only remained in the context of mathematical theory, and then also first hand experiences such as with reiki and orgonite.

I have noticed that there is a definite indescretion among people in terms of context.

Within the orgonite community, it is stated that all metallic substances repel orgone, while all organic substances attract orgone. It is also said crystals attract it, and convert negative orgone to positive orgone. To continue, let's just call orgone energy, torsion fields (as there is a big difference between energy and fields, and the latter is more correct).

There are then pieces of nonscientific information going around that pyramids built out of copper (just the edges) or other metals/alloys, focus the energy inside it.

There is David Wilcock's research, specifically focusing on Golod's pyramids in Russia, in which the pyramids must be constructed completely out of nonmetallic substances (ie fiberglass) for the reason being metal tends to absorb torsion fields negating their effects.

DW also goes into the cavity effect with honey combs, which sounds confusing in itself, but from the gist of it, the cavity effect seems to absorb or attract torsion fields rather strongly toward them, and also possibly away from someone in the vicinity making them dizzy/sick. It's only functional if it's placed above the users head. My guess being is the geometry is so strong as stated, that its even absorbing energy from the earth in a significant amount, that it creates a flow between the object and the ground, so being inside this flow is beneficial.

So what it comes down to, with the lattice structures, they are directly different in how they affect torsion fields, but what is the inherent property of each structure?

What I am concluding is that hexagonal radiates torsion fields, while cubic absorbs/negates them. In reference to orgonite, then this would mean that you are having a flow from one to the other, but it would seem that they would cancel each other out.

Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

isotelesis 11-07-2008 02:44 AM

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Richard Hammond is someone you should also know about.

http://xxx.lanl.gov/PS_cache/arxiv/p...806.1277v2.pdf

Art 11-07-2008 02:30 PM

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Gregor,

Research into all of this can be pretty fun, huh? And exhausting.

What you are looking for or have found (in terms of lattice structure for metals) is:

Hexagonal Close Packed
Face-Centered Cubic (sometimes called Cubic Close Packed)
Body Centered Cubic

I did a quick search and found this site which may help a little:

http://www.chemistry.ohio-state.edu/...754/str_cp.htm

You'll have to scroll down to nearly the bottom to see the table of elements (more common elements, not inclusive). From memory, Be (beryllium), when it oxidizes is highly TOXIC. Similar with Cadmium. Out of the list for HCP, magnesium, zinc, and titanium would be "the safer" metals to work with. Magnesium and Zinc oxidize very easily, so titanium may be the best to "work with".

Of course, remember that nearly all "metals" are alloys. Metallurgically speaking, it is nearly impossible to have a "pure" metal. Impurities and/or alloying elements change the structure and properties (physical, mechanical, etc.). Surely you can combine this with the torsion research you're doing...

Hope this helps, sorry if redundant.

Art


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