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Ampgod 10-28-2008 05:52 AM
Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Vitamin D toxicity: Excessive exposure to sunlight does not lead to overproduction of vitamin D. Vitamin D toxicity is inevitably the result of overdosing on vitamin D supplements. Don't do this! Ingestion of milligram quantities of vitamin D over periods of weeks of months can be severely toxic to humans and animals. In fact, baits laced with vitamin D are used very effectively as rodenticides.

Where is "Henry Deacon" ?
I have some questions regarding his Vitamin D3 claims.

(Taking one type of D Vitamin over another is not good either.
It throws the body chemistry off balance.)

Summary: Sunlight good. Supplements bad.

*It seems to me we all should educate ourselves in depth on nutrition and how our bodies work so we can end this nonsense!

Live Love, Seek Truth,
Ampgod

Hypnotize 10-28-2008 06:06 AM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
I keep my vitamin intake natural, i stay away from anything that comes in a pill form.

Ampgod 10-28-2008 06:14 AM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypnotize (Post 63407)
I keep my vitamin intake natural, i stay away from anything that comes in a pill form.
Yes sir. Excellent.
Pills are NOT the way.

whitecrow 10-28-2008 06:38 AM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 63412)
Pills are NOT the way.
If I could put it a little differently, I'd say "Pills are not THE way."

Vitamin D like any supplement can be overdone and can be toxic at high or sustained doses. On the other hand it can be used to address a number of conditions in the body that may have a cascade effect leading to chronic illness. Balance is always called for.

I sell supplements, and I absolutely agree that people tend to take too many. My boss doesn't like me to say it, but 90% of what we sell is superfluous and unnecessary...it's figuring out which 10% is important that's the challenge, because it's different for everyone.

I also agree that by far the best source of nutrition is natural, organic FOOD. At best supplements can be, well, supplemental. The fact is that due to soil depletion, our best produce contains only a fraction of the nutrition that was in the same vegetables and fruits half a century ago. Add to that the toxic diet that most people try to live on, and supplementation not only makes sense, it is mandatory.

Caveat emptor! Snake oil abounds! I know my boss tries to stock only quality products, and I try to guide people through the maze as best I can, but the best approach is the simplest. Eat as well as you can, get enough rest, exercise, and don't worry. Love someone. Be happy. And don't overdo the vitamin D.

Ampgod 10-28-2008 07:05 AM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
All pills are based off of real natural remedies.
Pills are a bad choice in my personal opinion.

I hope more people look to real organic food for proper health. :thumb_yello:

The invention of "PILLS" is what caused "Colloidal Silver" to be shoved under the rug in the early 1900's.
What a shame.

As for Vitamin D.... Just stand in the sun everyday for 10 minutes (or more). :)

Rebel4Life 10-28-2008 08:37 AM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 63435)
All pills are based off of real natural remedies.
Pills are a bad choice in my personal opinion.
If someone has messed themselves up so badly they absolutely need them... then I feel for them.

I hope more people look to real organic food for proper health. :thumb_yello:

The invention of "PILLS" is what caused "Colloidal Silver" to be shoved under the rug in the early 1900's.
What a shame.

As for Vitamin D.... Just stand in the sun everyday for 10 minutes (or more). :)
so Colloidal Silver is no good? :shocked:

Ampgod 10-28-2008 08:47 AM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel4Life (Post 63473)
so Colloidal Silver is no good? :shocked:
Colloidal Silver is wonderful. :)

Brinty 10-28-2008 09:21 AM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
I figure that if a person is fit and healthy and their metabolism is working correctly, supplements of any sort are not necessary. BUT, if their metabolism is not functioning correctly, they may benefit from a short regime of supplements. This regime would best be determined by a medical practitioner and not just embarked upon because of health fears engendered by vitamin supplement advertisements.

Vianova 10-28-2008 10:20 AM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 63475)
Colloidal Silver is wonderful. :)


You can take too much CS as well
and turn blue

Moderation and common sense

Vitamin D is EXTREMELY important for your heal\th

just use your head in how much youtake in a supplement,
or
get a proper dose of sunshine every day

****ake shrooms
cut fresh
sun dried gills up
will absorb huge amounts of Vitamin D....
from documneted sceintific study.

But it depends on length of sun exposure.
Limit to 2 hours of gills up in the sun,
then dry in other means.

Other shrooms have not been tested for this attribute.

Humble Janitor 10-28-2008 12:37 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 63402)
Vitamin D toxicity: Excessive exposure to sunlight does not lead to overproduction of vitamin D. Vitamin D toxicity is inevitably the result of overdosing on vitamin D supplements. Don't do this! Ingestion of milligram quantities of vitamin D over periods of weeks of months can be severely toxic to humans and animals. In fact, baits laced with vitamin D are used very effectively as rodenticides.

Where is "Henry Deacon" ?
I have some questions regarding his Vitamin D3 claims.

(Taking one type of D Vitamin over another is not good either.
It throws the body chemistry off balance.)

Summary: Sunlight good. Supplements bad.

*It seems to me we all should educate ourselves in depth on nutrition and how our bodies work so we can end this nonsense!

Live Love, Seek Truth,
Ampgod
Aren't you thinking of Vitamin B? I've read that lack of sunlight leads to Vitamin B deficiency.

I live in the Northeast and our winters are usually bleak. I tend to get moodier in the winter so I try to increase my intake of Vitamin B and it usually works because I feel more alert and less depressed.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, I fail to see what's wrong with taking a multivitamin. Some of us have not figured out how to create a healthy diet and as much as I hate to make excuses, it would be difficult for me to do so until I am able to modify my schedule.

martina 10-28-2008 01:39 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Spirulina and chlorella are very good.

Start with 1 or 1/2 liter fress water or fress water with lemon juice, take your time, than one or two apples to begin with. Wait half an hour and take again 1 or 1/2 liter fress water, than an light healthy meal, with a big row carrot and chew well.
If you don't eat meat, you can eat a second meal after four hours, first take a 1 or 1/2 liter fress water and after 1/4 hour, 1/2 glass fress juice and mix in that 1 thee spoon msm and vitamin C,
with that 3000 or 40000 mg chlorella / 2000mg and 1 multi vitamin, and some spirulina.
Use cs.
Have some exercise and go in the sun as much as possible.
Take a light meal in the evening.
Don't eat to much, to fat, to salty, to hot or to sweet.
Don't mix protein with carbohydrate
Don't mix protein with sweet or fat

This is what I do and I am very healthy!

Sarahmay 10-28-2008 02:21 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 63402)
Vitamin D toxicity: Excessive exposure to sunlight does not lead to overproduction of vitamin D. Vitamin D toxicity is inevitably the result of overdosing on vitamin D supplements. Don't do this! Ingestion of milligram quantities of vitamin D over periods of weeks of months can be severely toxic to humans and animals. In fact, baits laced with vitamin D are used very effectively as rodenticides.

Where is "Henry Deacon" ?
I have some questions regarding his Vitamin D3 claims.

(Taking one type of D Vitamin over another is not good either.
It throws the body chemistry off balance.)

Summary: Sunlight good. Supplements bad.

*It seems to me we all should educate ourselves in depth on nutrition and how our bodies work so we can end this nonsense!

Live Love, Seek Truth,
Ampgod
Very little is known about D3 toxicity, and many studies show no adverse effects at 10,000 IUs per day. For people who live in the north where it is cloudy in the winter, it is absolutely impossible to get the amount of sunshine needed.

Michael 10-28-2008 02:44 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by whitecrow (Post 63425)
If I could put it a little differently, I'd say "Pills are not THE way."

Vitamin D like any supplement can be overdone and can be toxic at high or sustained doses. On the other hand it can be used to address a number of conditions in the body that may have a cascade effect leading to chronic illness. Balance is always called for.

I sell supplements, and I absolutely agree that people tend to take too many. My boss doesn't like me to say it, but 90% of what we sell is superfluous and unnecessary...it's figuring out which 10% is important that's the challenge, because it's different for everyone.

I also agree that by far the best source of nutrition is natural, organic FOOD. At best supplements can be, well, supplemental. The fact is that due to soil depletion, our best produce contains only a fraction of the nutrition that was in the same vegetables and fruits half a century ago. Add to that the toxic diet that most people try to live on, and supplementation not only makes sense, it is mandatory.

Caveat emptor! Snake oil abounds! I know my boss tries to stock only quality products, and I try to guide people through the maze as best I can, but the best approach is the simplest. Eat as well as you can, get enough rest, exercise, and don't worry. Love someone. Be happy. And don't overdo the vitamin D.
A question since you're in the business...Thinking ahead, if someone was eating mostly canned goods for a period of time, what vitimins would be recommended, and in what quantitiies?

motov 10-28-2008 02:49 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 63435)
All pills are based off of real natural remedies.
Pills are a bad choice in my personal opinion.
If someone has messed themselves up so badly they absolutely need them... then I feel for them.

I hope more people look to real organic food for proper health. :thumb_yello:

The invention of "PILLS" is what caused "Colloidal Silver" to be shoved under the rug in the early 1900's.
What a shame.

As for Vitamin D.... Just stand in the sun everyday for 10 minutes (or more). :)
yeah thats easy when you live where i live..:lol3:

Magii 10-28-2008 03:14 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 63402)
Where is "Henry Deacon" ?

Where is he ? Well he is at @ Divine Cosmos Forums - aka Wilcocks ...
Some of his posts indicate .. the ANTI PC/PA Org.


http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/member.php?u=3739

whitecrow 10-28-2008 03:20 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael (Post 63656)
A question since you're in the business...Thinking ahead, if someone was eating mostly canned goods for a period of time, what vitimins would be recommended, and in what quantitiies?
Good question, and it highlights another situation where intelligent use of supplements can make your life better.

What I suggest to most people is:

Fish oil
Probiotics
Digestive enzymes
A multivitamin
Antioxidants.

The quantity or dose will vary with the individual. If one has trouble with anxiety or stress, there are natural things you can take to deal with that. If you can't sleep, there are natural sleep aids. There are natural ways to deal with nearly every common condition, and they are much better in many cases than a doctor's care.

Carol 10-28-2008 03:47 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magii (Post 63669)
Where is he ? Well he is at @ Divine Cosmos Forums - aka Wilcocks ...
Some of his posts indicate .. the ANTI PC/PA Org.


http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/member.php?u=3739
HD has been all over forumland under different socks. It's nice to finally see him sockless over at Davids. He's also been here the entire time with socks as well yet none of the members spotted him.

Jenny 10-28-2008 03:52 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magii (Post 63669)
Where is he ? Well he is at @ Divine Cosmos Forums - aka Wilcocks ...
Some of his posts indicate .. the ANTI PC/PA Org.


http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/member.php?u=3739

Thanks a lot for making me aware.

Bleep aka Henry Deacon aka Orionbelt never left Avalon.

Michael 10-28-2008 07:16 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by whitecrow (Post 63672)
Good question, and it highlights another situation where intelligent use of supplements can make your life better.

What I suggest to most people is:

Fish oil
Probiotics
Digestive enzymes
A multivitamin
Antioxidants.

The quantity or dose will vary with the individual. If one has trouble with anxiety or stress, there are natural things you can take to deal with that. If you can't sleep, there are natural sleep aids. There are natural ways to deal with nearly every common condition, and they are much better in many cases than a doctor's care.
Thanks, that helps me plan.

Cindy 10-28-2008 07:34 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 63475)
Colloidal Silver is wonderful. :)
Ampgod, where is a good reliable place to buy colloidal silver on the internet? What should I look for in brands? I have been interested in getting some and trying it. Thanks.

bigdogs58 10-28-2008 07:52 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
utopiasilver .com sells this :original:

Ampgod 10-28-2008 08:04 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vianova (Post 63524)
You can take too much CS as well
and turn blue

Moderation and common sense

Vitamin D is EXTREMELY important for your heal\th

just use your head in how much youtake in a supplement,
or
get a proper dose of sunshine every day

****ake shrooms
cut fresh
sun dried gills up
will absorb huge amounts of Vitamin D....
from documneted sceintific study.

But it depends on length of sun exposure.
Limit to 2 hours of gills up in the sun,
then dry in other means.

Other shrooms have not been tested for this attribute.
This is a myth. :lightsabre:
There is no known overdose of Colloidal Silver Ion.:thumb_yello:
It is also not rejected by the body like PILLS are!:thumb_yello:

Ampgod 10-28-2008 08:10 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 63879)
Ampgod, where is a good reliable place to buy colloidal silver on the internet? What should I look for in brands? I have been interested in getting some and trying it. Thanks.

Here is the site I used for the device and .9999 pure silver wires.
http://shop.toolsforhealing.com/
Goto BOB BECK TAB. :thumb_yello:

Well worth buying this device.
I have been taking at at least once a week for months.
It works!
Its the truth!
No more Colds, Flu's etc.
Big Pharma's days are numbered!:mad3:

Anyway, Glad to hear you are willing to try it. :)

Peace,
Ampgod

Ampgod 10-28-2008 08:12 PM
Re: Vitamin D supplements WARNING!!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael (Post 63870)
Thanks, that helps me plan.
Most pill form fish oils and multivitamins contain some toxins.
Be aware!
Pills are NOT the answer.
People back pills because they are not fullly informed or have a $$$ motive.

Bleep! 10-29-2008 03:12 AM
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Bloop


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