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Paramartasaya · 04-30-2009, 08:07 AM

Baxter Bird-Flu Contamination: The Plot Thickens

"When I first posted on the bird-flu vaccine contamination by Baxter Int'l pharmaceutical company last Saturday, I was amazed that none of the mainstream media (MSM) were reporting on this story. Well, guess what? It's four days later and still the only people talking about it are uninformed bloggers like me."

"That, in itself, is enough to raise some questions like: Why? Why is MSM ignoring a potentially explosive story? Why would they all agree not to cover it, unless they were being pressured by the government? Why hasn't someone in Congress jumped on this? Why isn't the medical research community raising alarms? I'm obviously not the only one with questions, as my site traffic has more than doubled since I posted about it, most of those coming in from a google search of this subject."

The Right Questions?

"This evening "Sham" left a comment on my original post. I don't know who Sham is, and have no way to verify his information, but he sounds like someone who is knowledgeable about vaccines, and after some thought, I've decided to re-post his commentary here. It starts out this way:

Hello everyone. I just commented on the story regarding Baxter's "accidental" mix-up of H5N1 on the site Fierce Vaccines (found via Google News), and my comments were deleted and closed within approximately 40 minutes. There is obviously something criminal and HIGH LEVEL going on here with Baxter. I will include both the contact information of their executives as well as my own commentary regarding what I believe to be the public exposure of a vast international biological weapons program, or if you prefer, an international corporate criminal syndicate which intends to release biological weapons upon the world population.
Before you write him off as a conspiracy nut, note that 1) I checked the article at Fierce Vaccines, and it lists 1 comment, but the comment is not viewable. 2) Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you."

"And 3) if you have trouble believing that an American company, whether sponsored by the government or not, could deliberately create a pandemic, then go read about IBM and The Holocaust. I am still wading through the 2001 volume by Edwin Black, (thanks, Dan) but the one-sentence version is that IBM, using its punch-card technology, helped Nazi Germany identify and exterminate the Jews, making a handy profit in the process.

That being said, I don't know the answers to Sham's questions - but I think they're good questions, and the answers could impact the world as we know it. In his original comment, he interspersed information on Baxter executives. As I found that hard to read, I have re-ordered his commentary to place the executive information at the end. Other than that, here is the commentary by "Sham."

"You initially claimed "trade secrets" regarding the vaccine contamination. Could you explain why Baxter initially attempted to cover this up?

Despite popular media claims to the contrary, coinfection of H5N1 and H3N2 would not produce simple reassortment. It would produce complex in vivo recombination of many competing strains in the infected host. Does Baxter agree with this assessment?"

"Furthermore the complex coinfection of H5N1 and H3N2 in a human would produce natural selection pressure for maximum virulence. Does Baxter dispute this claim? If so, why? If not, please explain why on earth would Baxter attempt to cover up an incident which may well have been lethal to 99% of humanity?

The book "Evolutionary Dynamics" suggest that viral coinfection selects for both maximum virulence and infectivity. Does Baxter dispute these mathematics? Considering this danger is well known among virologists, can Baxter immediately explain the precise sequence of events, including dates, times, and people involved, which led to contamination in over 16 labs in three separate countries in Europe with coinfected H5N1 and H3N2 material?"

"Is Baxter prepared to cooperate with all relevant authorities in the multiple countries to publicly release the genetic sequences of the contaminated material? Furthermore, what Clade was Baxter's H5N1 vaccine from? Clade 1? Clade 2? Clade 3? Other? Is part of the reason Baxter is so eager to destroy the existing vaccine material that executives are concerned the world will find out their 'custom' H5N1 does not resemble the strains circulating in waterfowl?

Can Baxter please disclose all financial and social connections it has with the incoming Obama administration (as Baxter and its executives are based near Chicago) and whether Baxter stood to benefit financially from the outbreak of a pandemic through a contaminated season influenza vaccine in late 2009? Does Treasury Sec Geithner hold shares in Baxter? If so, how many shares?"

"Baxter Director Gail Fosler has profoundly disturbing connections to powerful organizations including the Council on Foreign Relations, high-level Chinese CCP leadership, and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. The question is simple: Is Baxter involved in biological weapons programs? Are any of these programs 'international' in scope? If so , who is providing the funding? What is the nature and intent of these programs? Are any of these programs part of the so-called 'black budget'? That is , is Baxter involved in any "Special Access Programs" , as defined by Congress? Are any of these 'waived' "Special Access Programs"? Are any of these 'unacknowledged' 'waived' Special Access Programs (also known as 'black programs')?"

"Can Baxter explain exactly how a Level 3 biological warfare pathogen found its way into H3N2 material, regardless whether or not this experimental vaccine material was 'intended' for eventual use in humans or not. Is the contaminated H5N1 strain genetically engineered? If so, by whom? Does the NS protein in Baxter's H5N1 material contain polymorphisms which suppress human interferon production? Was Baxter's H5N1a full set of influenza genes? Or was it just the hemaglutanin and neuraminidase? Did Baxter's H5N1 contain a poly-basic cleavage site on the Hemaglutanin surface protein? Why were the samples of experimental vaccine material not irradiated?

Are Baxter executives prepared to testify before Congress , under oath, that their corporation is not involved in biological warfare programs?

Baxter's explanation so far has been chilling to put it mildly. Furthermore, it would be in Baxter's best interest, if it were not involved in criminal activities, to set the record straight? Does Baxter not agree its silence and weak explanations suggest possible criminal malfeasance? If not criminally involved, why will Baxter executives not provide a complete and full account of this supposed contamination, (if indeed it was contamination rather than intentional weaponization.)"

"Do Baxter executives have any financial and/or personal connections to Toyama Pharma and T-705, an influenza polymerase inhibitor? Has Baxter experimented with influenza polymerase inhibitors? Will Baxter disclose precisely what its financial positions are regarding H5N1 pandemic 'therapy' included its intended market timelines? The 'contamination' was an extremely serious breach of risk as Baxter could have easily exterminated most of the human race if this experimental material was made into vaccines.

Why does Baxter hold patents on avian influenza RNA polymerase promoters? What legitimate public health and/or scientific interest does Baxter have in this research? (see Application number: 10/547,155, Publication number: US 2007/0134270 A) Will all Baxter executives come forward and immediately renounce weaponization of biologics? Are Baxter executives concerned about possible civil and/or criminal actions brought against them? Why or why not?"

"What are the financial connections between the Federal Reserve System and Baxter? Does Baxter receive funding from JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs? Does Baxter receive any national security exemptions (waivers)?

What specific steps , including a precise timeline, does Baxter plan on doing to allay the concerns of both the public and the scientific community? Again, can Baxter please describe the precise nature of their H5N1 strain, including genetic sequences, from where it was obtained, and whether it was genetically engineered? If genetically engineered, what modifications were made? Single nucleotide polymorphisms? RNA Recombination? Reassortment? What exactly, was in this experimental vaccine material? We want scientific answers immediately."

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White, Cheryl Ms. Cheryl L. White is Corporate Vice President, Quality of Baxter International Inc., having served in that capacity since March 2006. From 1997 to 2006, Ms. White held various management positions in Baxter’s BioScience business, the most recent of which was Vice President, Quality Management.

Cheryl L White
481 S Commons Ct
Deerfield, IL 60015
Phone Unpublished

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04-30-2009, 08:07 AM	#5
Paramartasaya Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: EUROPE Posts: 188	Re: Alex Jones and Steve Quayle on Coast to Coast april 28 09 Baxter Bird-Flu Contamination: The Plot Thickens "When I first posted on the bird-flu vaccine contamination by Baxter Int'l pharmaceutical company last Saturday, I was amazed that none of the mainstream media (MSM) were reporting on this story. Well, guess what? It's four days later and still the only people talking about it are uninformed bloggers like me." "That, in itself, is enough to raise some questions like: Why? Why is MSM ignoring a potentially explosive story? Why would they all agree not to cover it, unless they were being pressured by the government? Why hasn't someone in Congress jumped on this? Why isn't the medical research community raising alarms? I'm obviously not the only one with questions, as my site traffic has more than doubled since I posted about it, most of those coming in from a google search of this subject." The Right Questions? "This evening "Sham" left a comment on my original post. I don't know who Sham is, and have no way to verify his information, but he sounds like someone who is knowledgeable about vaccines, and after some thought, I've decided to re-post his commentary here. It starts out this way: Hello everyone. I just commented on the story regarding Baxter's "accidental" mix-up of H5N1 on the site Fierce Vaccines (found via Google News), and my comments were deleted and closed within approximately 40 minutes. There is obviously something criminal and HIGH LEVEL going on here with Baxter. I will include both the contact information of their executives as well as my own commentary regarding what I believe to be the public exposure of a vast international biological weapons program, or if you prefer, an international corporate criminal syndicate which intends to release biological weapons upon the world population. Before you write him off as a conspiracy nut, note that 1) I checked the article at Fierce Vaccines, and it lists 1 comment, but the comment is not viewable. 2) Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you." "And 3) if you have trouble believing that an American company, whether sponsored by the government or not, could deliberately create a pandemic, then go read about IBM and The Holocaust. I am still wading through the 2001 volume by Edwin Black, (thanks, Dan) but the one-sentence version is that IBM, using its punch-card technology, helped Nazi Germany identify and exterminate the Jews, making a handy profit in the process. That being said, I don't know the answers to Sham's questions - but I think they're good questions, and the answers could impact the world as we know it. In his original comment, he interspersed information on Baxter executives. As I found that hard to read, I have re-ordered his commentary to place the executive information at the end. Other than that, here is the commentary by "Sham." "You initially claimed "trade secrets" regarding the vaccine contamination. Could you explain why Baxter initially attempted to cover this up? Despite popular media claims to the contrary, coinfection of H5N1 and H3N2 would not produce simple reassortment. It would produce complex in vivo recombination of many competing strains in the infected host. Does Baxter agree with this assessment?" "Furthermore the complex coinfection of H5N1 and H3N2 in a human would produce natural selection pressure for maximum virulence. Does Baxter dispute this claim? If so, why? If not, please explain why on earth would Baxter attempt to cover up an incident which may well have been lethal to 99% of humanity? The book "Evolutionary Dynamics" suggest that viral coinfection selects for both maximum virulence and infectivity. Does Baxter dispute these mathematics? Considering this danger is well known among virologists, can Baxter immediately explain the precise sequence of events, including dates, times, and people involved, which led to contamination in over 16 labs in three separate countries in Europe with coinfected H5N1 and H3N2 material?" "Is Baxter prepared to cooperate with all relevant authorities in the multiple countries to publicly release the genetic sequences of the contaminated material? Furthermore, what Clade was Baxter's H5N1 vaccine from? Clade 1? Clade 2? Clade 3? Other? Is part of the reason Baxter is so eager to destroy the existing vaccine material that executives are concerned the world will find out their 'custom' H5N1 does not resemble the strains circulating in waterfowl? Can Baxter please disclose all financial and social connections it has with the incoming Obama administration (as Baxter and its executives are based near Chicago) and whether Baxter stood to benefit financially from the outbreak of a pandemic through a contaminated season influenza vaccine in late 2009? Does Treasury Sec Geithner hold shares in Baxter? If so, how many shares?" "Baxter Director Gail Fosler has profoundly disturbing connections to powerful organizations including the Council on Foreign Relations, high-level Chinese CCP leadership, and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. The question is simple: Is Baxter involved in biological weapons programs? Are any of these programs 'international' in scope? If so , who is providing the funding? What is the nature and intent of these programs? Are any of these programs part of the so-called 'black budget'? That is , is Baxter involved in any "Special Access Programs" , as defined by Congress? Are any of these 'waived' "Special Access Programs"? Are any of these 'unacknowledged' 'waived' Special Access Programs (also known as 'black programs')?" "Can Baxter explain exactly how a Level 3 biological warfare pathogen found its way into H3N2 material, regardless whether or not this experimental vaccine material was 'intended' for eventual use in humans or not. Is the contaminated H5N1 strain genetically engineered? If so, by whom? Does the NS protein in Baxter's H5N1 material contain polymorphisms which suppress human interferon production? Was Baxter's H5N1a full set of influenza genes? Or was it just the hemaglutanin and neuraminidase? Did Baxter's H5N1 contain a poly-basic cleavage site on the Hemaglutanin surface protein? Why were the samples of experimental vaccine material not irradiated? Are Baxter executives prepared to testify before Congress , under oath, that their corporation is not involved in biological warfare programs? Baxter's explanation so far has been chilling to put it mildly. Furthermore, it would be in Baxter's best interest, if it were not involved in criminal activities, to set the record straight? Does Baxter not agree its silence and weak explanations suggest possible criminal malfeasance? If not criminally involved, why will Baxter executives not provide a complete and full account of this supposed contamination, (if indeed it was contamination rather than intentional weaponization.)" "Do Baxter executives have any financial and/or personal connections to Toyama Pharma and T-705, an influenza polymerase inhibitor? Has Baxter experimented with influenza polymerase inhibitors? Will Baxter disclose precisely what its financial positions are regarding H5N1 pandemic 'therapy' included its intended market timelines? The 'contamination' was an extremely serious breach of risk as Baxter could have easily exterminated most of the human race if this experimental material was made into vaccines. Why does Baxter hold patents on avian influenza RNA polymerase promoters? What legitimate public health and/or scientific interest does Baxter have in this research? (see Application number: 10/547,155, Publication number: US 2007/0134270 A) Will all Baxter executives come forward and immediately renounce weaponization of biologics? Are Baxter executives concerned about possible civil and/or criminal actions brought against them? Why or why not?" "What are the financial connections between the Federal Reserve System and Baxter? Does Baxter receive funding from JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs? Does Baxter receive any national security exemptions (waivers)? What specific steps , including a precise timeline, does Baxter plan on doing to allay the concerns of both the public and the scientific community? Again, can Baxter please describe the precise nature of their H5N1 strain, including genetic sequences, from where it was obtained, and whether it was genetically engineered? If genetically engineered, what modifications were made? Single nucleotide polymorphisms? RNA Recombination? Reassortment? What exactly, was in this experimental vaccine material? We want scientific answers immediately." =============================== White, Cheryl Ms. Cheryl L. White is Corporate Vice President, Quality of Baxter International Inc., having served in that capacity since March 2006. From 1997 to 2006, Ms. White held various management positions in Baxter’s BioScience business, the most recent of which was Vice President, Quality Management. Cheryl L White 481 S Commons Ct Deerfield, IL 60015 Phone Unpublished http://akagaga.blogspot.com/2009/03/...tion-plot.html