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Old 09-16-2008, 08:51 PM   #2
mortalcoil
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Default Re: Some advice on preparations

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Originally Posted by clayman View Post
Good post man. But I think you have misunderstood me a little.

You wrote you didn't have the slightest idea what this post had to do with preparation, i recommend you read it again.. Or my English grammar is really really poor :P I lack in some English words, for that I'm sorry.

My point was that people here are getting really frightened, and that is no way to "prepare your self", if you know what I mean. Even if the world actually would "end". I know people fear the unknown, but that is a choice, as much as believing that we really don't have to be afraid.
I didn't talk about "faith without action", that's your words. Building your self towards a positive attitude without fear in reality we fully don't understand IS a preparation, if you ask me, don't know what you believe in.. I don't want to leave my home for Ecuador or some other place without bringing my head and soul, you know..

For example, boxers.. If their not prepared mentally and spiritually they are going to lose. And this kind of preparation is when you do something good for your self, and tell me, how could you do anything good for anyone else if you cant help yourself first? How could you understand somebody else if you cant understand yourself? Or maybe I'm just thinking in the wrong direction with this..


Frightened or not, it is the emotions that motivate us to action. It is one thing to say you are not afraid but to be mentally aware and understand that fear, use it, control it, that will separate the victims from the victors.

Fear, as I said before comes from lack of understanding. Though you may still fear what you understand but you have the ability to prepare for that by tuning your mental awareness. Being spiritually sound is key to that awareness and that is where we agree.

Where we disagree is the definition of fear. Being afraid is OKAY. Panic on the other hand, a by product of fear is NOT okay. And that is the basis of your thought process. People here as you state are afraid but it is that panic and lack of understanding which drives people to flee. At first we fear, then we learn, then we accept and then we prepare.



I'm glad you brought up nature in your post, and I like your metaphors, but were no bird flock, and were certainly are no rats. Neither do I wish to compare those animals with humans, even if its so easy to do that these days.. I don't know what animals are spiritually but I know what people are spiritually. Also not to say anything bad against animals, but my guess would be humans are maybe a little more advanced spiritually, i don't know. The fact that animals already react that fast on situations tells me they have no free will, and that people with free will tend to put that will and focus on "bu''''it" therefore we don't react that fast. Or maybe I'm wrong, I don't know..

As I had pointed out in my last post we are not as spiritually evolved collectively as we would like to think we are. The importance here is that although we may have ability to reason and to comprehend individuality we are still governed by the same animal instincts as birds, rats, sheep, etc.

The big difference is this, where a rat will abandon ship because they have no other reasoning but to survive a captain will stay behind and sacrifice himself because it is his duty. He has been programed to believe that he must go down with the ship. Wouldn't you consider that to be lack of free will?

How does that makes us more evolved? Unfortunately none of us on this plane of existence has any idea what the "big picture" is so how can one say that that self sacrifice has brought us any closer to the betterment or evolution of humanity?


So basically, what is survival? For me the spiritual survival comes first.

"house on the rock", you have misunderstood that, not that I'm judging you or that I wish to do it but there you go.. Google it or check the bible where its explained in a good way.
Because if I build my life(the house) with a poor soul(the foundation) or you might say "poor attitude" or "poor spirit" or whatever.. That house will crash and burn..

About that Gilgamesh story you wrote. He followed his intuition which comes from the soul. He had a feeling something would happen so he got prepared, right? We have to priorities preparations. First you pray and get in touch with your self, or your "higher self" as some call it. When you have done that, that's when you start listening to your intuition. And intuition wont lie, as far as I know..

Intuitions don't lie, true to a point, and intuitions can be linked back to that animal instincts that we all have (spider sense if you will) however there are those here that do nothing but pray (prey? ) for they believe that only spirituality can save them.

But news flash we are not yet complete spiritual beings and where as spirituality is important for us to evolve to that state, we must be able to recognize ourselves as the fragile composition of flesh and blood that is our shell. Unfortunately we do not yet have the capacity to a-sexually reproduce and so there for it is still up to us physical beings to perpetuate life. And without those that recognize fear and prepare for their survival and physical safety we would not have the ability to pro create, which is whole purpose of life, perpetuate and evolve. So survival is, spiritual, mental AND physical preparation.


I survived the war in Bosnia in 92, trust me, I know how to prepare, but it always starts from inside! Because if were unprepared inside, there's no point in running.

Not doubting your ability, just the incomplete nature of your post. Where we are in agreement with the spiritual aspect of preparation that is not all we need.



When was that? Would people on this forum torture and cannibalize children? Or would "Indigo's" do that? Of course not, we are a bit more civilized than that, right?

Leave someone to starve for 12 days and see how civilized we are.

Also, you make it sound like spiritualism is so far away, when it isn't. You know, when you turn the eyes inside you find a whole new world. That's where you get your guidance, enlightenment and God.

No, no, don't get me wrong, spirituality is only a phone call away. It is so close you can touch it. An aspect of perception, a being of light and dark seeking balance within ones self, oneness with nature, collective consciousness, these are within our grasp, no doubt.

But you where referring to the big picture and that as it pertains to the nature of the universe. That is EONS away. Because we as a species cannot even FATHOM infinity let alone even know how to seek it. That takes time, perseverance, generations, and no one in their right mind now unless given outside assistance would even know how to comprehend that let alone seek it.


Myself, I'm no Indigo, at least I think I'm not, as far as I know.. don't really care about that because it's not relevant, because for me that's just another way to separate and categorize our selves.. Nobody is more special and nobody is less special, but its the effort you put in that matters and measures you as a human being.

If you read my other posts in the call for indigos my reasoning would be better understood and perhaps enlighten what it means to be classified as indigo. I did not give myself that title a woman by the name of Carol did, I just fit the scientific description and that unfortunately is how we as a collective identify other beings of specific traits and similarities. However you clearly called us out by our classification, so I clearly had to respond in kind.


Maybe I didn't explain myself in a good way, don't know.. Neither am I criticizing or anything like that or talking down on anyone. Its a good conversation =) Cheers
And that's the whole point isn't it? Good conversation? Oh, and never apologize for yourself or your feelings, makes for bad business, spiritually that is. Cheers!
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