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Originally Posted by morganlilith
i don't understand why everyone (both sides of the argument) seem to insist on this being a either/or situation.
the evidence seems pretty clear that solar activity IS affecting the climate on the planets.
however, we DO pump a lot of **** into the air, AND we have deforested huge swaths of land on this planet.
so while we may not be CAUSING climate change, i tend to think we are a contributing factor. just because the sun is doing it's thing and other planets are experiencing changes as well doesn't mean we should just go ahead and continue abusing the planet for our convenience..... aren't we trying to break free of tptb programming that we need continued growth to support our sham of an economy? isn't it tptb who push down sustainable power sources in favor of the oil and coal industires?
now, i do understand that this climate conference was about maintaining the status quo in terms of the power structure. i'm not advocating taxing poor countries into oblivion. it has also never made sense to me, the whole idea of selling carbon credits so that someone else can feel forgiven for continuing to pollute the planet....
the climate summit seems to me to be just another example of the elites taking another thing we care about and twisting it to their own agenda. that doesn't make caring about this planet a bad thing. we just need to keep OUR visions of things separate from their agenda-izing.
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Well said... It annoys the hell out of me that the elites manage to jump on to somthing and twist it for their own agenda... It should called Stop Enviromental Destruction. Grrrr!