[onawah]

Thanks MP2 for your comments. It's really nice to find resonance with others on this forum, in a similar space to my own.

Lisa, thank you for what appears to be personal experience with Greer, the second I have seen on this thread so far.

I have been very concerned about this topic for several reasons, but not because I have a personal interest in Dr. Greer, which seems to be implied. He represents for me an important and rare interface between the Disclosure Movement and the mainstream who still have a big “need to know” when it comes to Disclosure. There are only a few people, like Dr. Edgar Mitchell, for example, who have the necessary fame, credentials, and are able to command the respect necessary from the mainstream (and the media) that is necessary to help bring about Disclosure. Dr. Greer is less well known to the public, but the connections he has in government, military, scientific and other circles, and the fact that his activities are closely monitored, and that he has been the target of psycops --indicates that the work he is doing is important and far reaching, and the PTB obviously show thereby that he is perceived as posing a threat to their agenda and is capable of helping people to “wake up”.

On the issue of sexual preference, I have had close friends who have “come out” and friends who haven't, and so I do have personal experience of how painful either scenario can be. If Greer has just been a target of a smear, then I'm relieved, because that should be much less of a problem for him, his family, etc. and should also mean fewer strong negative repercussions on the Disclosure Movement itself. Had that porno webpage actually been his doing of course, then the problems could be much more serious. Hopefully it is just a tempest in a teapot.

I think it's very appropriate that this discussion takes place here on the PC forum, and I hope it comes to the attention of Bill especially, because I think he and whoever repeated the rumor to him should have investigated further before validating it, and now that we have some forum members coming forward with personal testimony, I hope Bill will look further into this matter. An apology might also be in order to Dr. Greer. I'm not sure how that could be accomplished—perhaps a note to a Moderator?

I was not impressed, but saddened by the PC/Greer interview. Kerry was very aggressive, and Greer was obviously resentful of being grilled and was arrogant in his defensiveness. Greer's discrediting of PC obviously had put Kerry on the defensive also, and Greer's apology wasn't very convincing. I can understand why he thinks that the focus on the negative on PC has been counter productive. It would be good if some of these differences could be resolved. Neither the Disclosure Project or PC are operating in a vacuum, and there is a connection here, however independent they may seem. However much agreement and harmony can be achieved would be for the good of all.

Hopefully in the end this can all be chalked up to a very thought provoking and instructive learning experience...

I agree that PC's vetting process appears to leave something to be desired. They have some of the very best stuff on the Net, but some really dubious testimony as well. I think if they would find some good connections with genuine shamans, psychics, channelers, healers, etc. it would help them to get better guidance and make better connections, so they would not have to be living by their wits so much, and the quality of their information would most probably improve. (At the same time, I think we all owe them a huge debt of gratitude for taking on this project in the first place, which has taken a lot of courage and fortitude.)

I don't agree at all that nothing has changed. It's happening slowly and so may not be obvious from a subjective view, but when I look back from as objective a space as I can reach in my mind, I know that I am a much different person than I was 5 years ago, and certainly 10 years ago, and the world is a much different place too. The new generations that haven't come into their own yet are still an unknown quantity, but I think just their presence here, with their upgraded DNA, is HUGE. Like Obama, I think they are just biding their time, knowing that change is inevitable and cannot be stopped. They are taking a different approach to change than my generation did; we went at things in a much more head-on way, and paid the price. It's largely a waiting game at this point, I think. Learning to relax and enjoy the ride is an important part of the process, but it doesn't mean we can neglect what needs to be done, either.

I like the Native American symbol of the “God's Eye”, which reminds us that while things may seem to change very slowly form our view, from the cosmic perspective, things are happening right on schedule, and largely for reasons which we cannot fathom.