Just a note to you Zorgon that I have read your stuff on open minds and are glad for your intelligence.
If John Lear has left here it's quite understandable. I don't check in here very often myself any more like I did at the start.
Forums such as this will always attract those that are seriously menally ill.
Perhaps a thread just for sqaubbling so those that want to do that can do it.
I've visited and been a member of many different forums on all sorts of different subjects and they all have 'problem' people that whine and contribute nothing.
In the interests of transperancy I would ban them but also have a section where the offending posts can be viewed by others. People could agree or not in that section. Whining off topic in other threads would have the result of them becoming the newest 'banned poster'.   Harsh? Maybe,but  Avalon is risking becoming a place that will be the laughing stock of the web and all the Gems of real info get buried by rubbish. No disinfo agents needed,no psyops,  just a bunch all blaming each other. The PTB laughing and reassured in their conviction that the sheeple cannot run a discussion let alone their own lives and futures!

I can't wait for the 'pay' thread that has been touted. It should sort the wheat from the chaff.