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Originally Posted by milk and honey
I have questions for doom and megamud. Are you guys materialists? ie, Do you believe the material plane is all there is? No higher dimensions of reality only what you can sense with the 5 senses?
I do go along with your take on the 'ET' scam though. Not that i believe there are no ETs in the cosmos. But that the whole "ET Creators (of man) in UFOs returning to earth to save us" scenario is a deception. I believe the channeling / abductee / contactee business is a psyops but i am just as wary of Alan Watt.
He is placed for those with a mindset to reject the 'ET' phenomena but has his share of poison to peddle.
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Well of course, you can never trust anyone without looking into the information yourself. Don't ever take these guys word for anything without doing the research yourself.
And about 'going beyond 5 sense reality'. Well of course I think there is reality beyond what our eyes can see, but at the same time our real purpose here is what we do while here and really there is no point in placing human values upon something so beyond our ken. I'm not going to get all into spirituality on this thread, it is quite a vast subject, but I will say that I do believe in human spirit.
I'll just say that the problem with new agers like Icke, etc. is that they place too much value on things beyond our ken, it's the same as any religion really, which is why the new age is a religion, and faith based. Essentially, When we leave this 5 sense reality, we die, and everyone dies eventually, so you shouldn't be in a rush to 'escape this reality'. Which is exactly what these new agers are pushing, all this 'go beyond 5 senses' stuff coming from the new agers, isn't about true spirituality, it's about disconnecting you with reality so that you don't do anything to change it, and let the new world order keep going on how it is, and if you do try anything to stop it, you will be so misguided that you will probably do more harm than help. It's all about getting you into certain mindsets which disable the mind and make people easier to control.