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A Being

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However, the shared interpretations we have of reality cause insane society. Its useful to use thought and language to communicate, but its harmful to mistake our thoughts and language for the absolute itself.

I want to bring up a different angle point right now, which I had trouble putting into words in the past.

Some say the world(or what some call reality, but is most commonly used to refer to the world of appearances) is meaningless- that it has no objective definition. I agree to a point, but take it deeper.
They think first there is a reality and then we give it a label. And the thing labeled has no meaning.
Actual ly "reality" is a meaning we give to nothing.
First there is NOTHING and then there is INTERPRETATION of nothing, and THEN there is a whole bunch of appearances, and THEN we group all those appearances under the header of "the world." (I don't know if thats the exact order or not, but I would imagine approximately so, as "the world" is a more complex thought than some others.)

We call infinity, or chaos "the world" but that itself is giving chaos meaning. We interpret chaos into a place, and imagine we exist in it. Even calling "it" 'chaos', 'infinity', or 'it' is to give meaning to ___.
Basically, the more vague and essential a word, the closer it seems to the absolute, because the less meaning it has. "Nothing" has the most minimal meaning of any word, and so it appears to be the closest, but even it is a meaningful word/label.

Anything we say at all about existence is to add something inessential.
If reality is meaningless, then so is saying "reality is meaningless". If reality is meaningless, then so are all our thoughts.

Mayb e it goes something like this.
"I exist" "I'm experiencing" "My experiences are of things" "these things exist in a world" "I'm a thing in the world".

What can't be thought of?
You can think about anything... that is because 'things' ARE thoughts. That is to say, things appear because of thinking/ interpretation of experience. 'Size' is also relative interpretation and so there really isn't size. Which means your consciousness is sizeless. The mind itself is a thought.

Even "perception" is a result of thought. It requires one to differentiate between subject and object. It requires a sense of time, which is not possible without memory.

Anyway though, thats only one way to put it. I think the world is real...but that our minds distort it quite a bit.


[ Edited Thu Nov 27 2008, 09:43PM ]

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