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Old 12-22-2008, 12:04 AM   #9
stiros
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Default Re: How people become Monsters or Heroes

Hello everyone,
Thank you henners for the video.
I have heard about these experiments before.
Anyhow, I think there is good in people, if they want to develop in that direction.
Personally I think we have to many “psychopathic characters” with a need to control others in our “hierarchic social system”.
I think, if we take away the “hierarchic system”, much of the problem will disappear, because people with a need to control, will advance upwards in this “hierarchic system”.
They use fear to rule others. We can change this if we want.

I like the so called “three pillar model of a society”.
The different pillars are:
1.“Scientific/Technological (level)”
2.“Interindividual/Social (level)”
3.“Individual (level)”
To become heroes (instead of monsters) is a typical “Individual” pillar training.
It is obvious for everybody, that we have get some training in this issue, to make us conscious about this “human problem”.
I think it also is very important, that in an early stage of an “situation”, to be brave and direct the “events”, to take a good path, by immediate actions.
This will perhaps “bias towards heroes”, instead of doing nothing and perhaps “bias towards monsters”.
Just speculations.
Personally I think it is important to get rid of our own “fears”, i.e. to be conscious about what is causing our fears.
As a help to find out where we stand in this matter, we could use the “emotional scale” by Esther and Jerry Hicks in the book “Ask and it is Given”.
It's like following and I like this too:
1.Joy/Knowledge/Empowerment/Freedom/Love/Appreciation
2.Passion
3.Enthusiasm
4.Positive Expectation/Belief
5.Optimism
6.Hopefulness
7.Contentment
8.Boredom
9.Pessimism
10.Frustration/Irritation/Impatience
11.“Overwhelment”
12.Disappointment
13.Doubt
14.Worry
15.Blame
16.Discouragement
17.Anger
18.Revenge
19.Hatred/Rage
20.Jealousy
21.Insecurity/Guilt/Unworthyness
22.Fear/Grief/Depression/Despair/Powerlessness
The purpose is to reach up to low number on this “development scale”.
As I understand it is usually only possible to take small steps at a time on this scale.
Often to become conscious about a problem on the scale, will also “resolve it”.
It is more difficult in fact to climb on this ladder, than it looks like.
For example, if you get rid of “Anger”, which perhaps has been a “driving force” in the life, it is important to replace that “driving force” with for example love (philia and agape) instead, or you maybe you will end up with a life, that seems to be meaningless and that is not good at all, as I see it.
We are all friends and we have to help each other in this matter.
Comments appreciated

love, freedom and truth
stiros

Last edited by stiros; 12-22-2008 at 12:06 AM.
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