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J_rod7 · 02-14-2010, 06:55 PM

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Greetings in Truth: in Peace to All,

Steven, we need to get beyond this "elite versus the rest of us" stuff and 'drill-down' to what's going on in this world. For this, we should find some 'common ground' to work from to explore the problems. Our perceptions are almost 'polar-opposites', and the Truth is somewhere in the middle.

First, do we really understand what is meant by "Creation?"

This is an easy concept, once proper 'terms' are defined. This subject leads us to understand the SOVEREIGNTY of EVERY INDIVIDUAL HUMAN.

We are given to understand Creation ...

[ Creation is The Creation and there exists no Creation other than it within its own Universe.]

[ Creation is the Creation of all creations such as the Universe, the galaxies, stars, earths (earth is equivalent to 'planets' in this context), skies, light and darkness, time, space and all multitudes of life forms in existence, each according to its own species.]

[ Creation is justice, love, strength, wisdom, knowledge, compassion, freedom, mercy, laws, directive, alliance, fulfillment, evolution, life, support, joy, beauty, peace, infallibility, equilibrium, spirit, forever, logic, growth, perfection, contentment, inexhaustibility, omnipotence, sweetness, infinity, solidarity, perception, harkening, elevation, the Sohar, gentleness, lucidity, purity, transformation, origin, future, power, reverence, allness and BEING.]

[ Creation is the BEING and non-BEING of life. It is the most immense mass of spiritual energy in the Universe.]

[ Creation is spirit in its purest form and immeasurable in its wisdom, knowledge, love and harmony in truth.]

[ Creation is a spiritually dynamic, pure-spirit energy that prevails over everything. Incomprehensible for human beings, it is an active, creative wisdom in the midst of its own incessant evolution; it is all-encompassing for all times.]

Reference: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/mei...s/glossary.htm

To this, I will add that every Human Spirit in this Universe is a part of the Creation, in essence: a 'hologram' of Spiritual Energy sent forth from the Creation in the innumerable Billions. As such, individual Spirit-Forms never lose connection with Creation, are endowed with Free Will by which each is Sovereign.

Human Spirit takes on material embodiment on the Billions of habitable Worlds in the Universe. Human Spirit Evolves through Millions of lifetimes by a process of reincarnation which takes 60-B to 80-Billion years, gaining vast Knowledge, Light, Wisdom, Truth, Love, Powers &c which increases through each life. The ultimate goal of every Human is to merge again in fullness with Creation, bearing the total sum of all this, as our gift to enhance the Evolution of the Creation itself.

These thoughts are really only the 'tip-of-the-iceburg' in understanding Creation and the Humans' part in the total Evolution process. To do proper justice to this would fill books. There is an excellent short essay (about one page) = Introduction to the Creation, What Is the Creation? Recommended to read here: ...

http://www.theyfly.com/spiritual/creation/creation.htm

Once we have a common understanding here, let's continue with our dialog -- "Over-Consumption vs Over-Population." Also, having just a quick look at -- The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement -- I'll say that THOSE people need a strong infusion of common-sense into their thinking.

Namaste

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02-14-2010, 06:55 PM	#10
J_rod7 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 301	Re: Today, the problem isn’t over-population, it’s over-consumption ***** * * Greetings in Truth: in Peace to All, Steven, we need to get beyond this "elite versus the rest of us" stuff and 'drill-down' to what's going on in this world. For this, we should find some 'common ground' to work from to explore the problems. Our perceptions are almost 'polar-opposites', and the Truth is somewhere in the middle. First, do we really understand what is meant by "Creation?" This is an easy concept, once proper 'terms' are defined. This subject leads us to understand the SOVEREIGNTY of EVERY INDIVIDUAL HUMAN. We are given to understand Creation ... [ Creation is The Creation and there exists no Creation other than it within its own Universe.] [ Creation is the Creation of all creations such as the Universe, the galaxies, stars, earths (earth is equivalent to 'planets' in this context), skies, light and darkness, time, space and all multitudes of life forms in existence, each according to its own species.] [ Creation is justice, love, strength, wisdom, knowledge, compassion, freedom, mercy, laws, directive, alliance, fulfillment, evolution, life, support, joy, beauty, peace, infallibility, equilibrium, spirit, forever, logic, growth, perfection, contentment, inexhaustibility, omnipotence, sweetness, infinity, solidarity, perception, harkening, elevation, the Sohar, gentleness, lucidity, purity, transformation, origin, future, power, reverence, allness and BEING.] [ Creation is the BEING and non-BEING of life. It is the most immense mass of spiritual energy in the Universe.] [ Creation is spirit in its purest form and immeasurable in its wisdom, knowledge, love and harmony in truth.] [ Creation is a spiritually dynamic, pure-spirit energy that prevails over everything. Incomprehensible for human beings, it is an active, creative wisdom in the midst of its own incessant evolution; it is all-encompassing for all times.] Reference: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/mei...s/glossary.htm To this, I will add that every Human Spirit in this Universe is a part of the Creation, in essence: a 'hologram' of Spiritual Energy sent forth from the Creation in the innumerable Billions. As such, individual Spirit-Forms never lose connection with Creation, are endowed with Free Will by which each is Sovereign. Human Spirit takes on material embodiment on the Billions of habitable Worlds in the Universe. Human Spirit Evolves through Millions of lifetimes by a process of reincarnation which takes 60-B to 80-Billion years, gaining vast Knowledge, Light, Wisdom, Truth, Love, Powers &c which increases through each life. The ultimate goal of every Human is to merge again in fullness with Creation, bearing the total sum of all this, as our gift to enhance the Evolution of the Creation itself. These thoughts are really only the 'tip-of-the-iceburg' in understanding Creation and the Humans' part in the total Evolution process. To do proper justice to this would fill books. There is an excellent short essay (about one page) = Introduction to the Creation, What Is the Creation? Recommended to read here: ... http://www.theyfly.com/spiritual/creation/creation.htm Once we have a common understanding here, let's continue with our dialog -- "Over-Consumption vs Over-Population." Also, having just a quick look at -- The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement -- I'll say that THOSE people need a strong infusion of common-sense into their thinking. Namaste * * ***** Last edited by J_rod7; 02-14-2010 at 08:01 PM.