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03-24-09 http://www.AlienDeceptions.Com http://www.prisonplanet.TV http://www.tsrn.us/blog/2009/03/25/o...merica-sleeps/ Alex jones radio talking about the senate slavery bill- Obama’s Slavery Bill Passes In The Senate - They Walk On The Constitution One More Time While America Sleeps Posted by TSRN on March 25th, 2009 | By Kate Phillips Following overwhelming House passage last week, the Senate tonight voted 74 to 14 on a procedural move that essentially guarantees a major expansion of a national service corps, a cornerstone of volunteerism that dates back to the era of President Kennedy. It’s akin to a call to arms by President Obama, who has harkened back to those early days to demand giving back by those who voted for him. In fact, Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the senior Democrat from Massachusetts whose battle with brain cancer has oft kept him absent from the Senate these days, appeared on the floor to welcomes all around as he cast his approving vote as a co-sponsor. From President Kennedy’s days to the creation of Americorps by then President Bill Clinton, the notion of public service has become a rallying cry. Tonight’s vote, propelled by President Obama’s urging of an expansion, would mean a growth in such work from 75,000 community service jobs to 250,000. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the cost of the Senate bill at least would be an outlay for the fiscal year 2010 of $418 million to about $5.7 billion from 2010 through 2014. This Bill Is Against The Constitution Delegates to the Constitutional Convention of 1787 hotly debated the issue of slavery. George Mason of Virginia argued eloquently against slavery, warning his fellow delegates: “Every master of slaves is born a petty tyrant. They bring the judgment of heaven on a country. As nations cannot be rewarded or punished in the next world, they must be in this. By an inevitable chain of causes and effects, providence punishes national sins by national calamities.” Southern delegates, on the other hand, argued strenuously that the new government should not be allowed to interfere with the institution of slavery. Delegate John Rutledge of South Carolina, for example, told delegates that “religion and humanity have nothing to do with the questions” of whether the Constitution should protect slavery–it was simply a question of property rights. The Constitution that the delegates proposed included several provisions that explicity recognized and protected slavery. Without these provisions, southern delegates would not support the new Constitution–and without the southern states on board, the Constitution had no chance of being ratified. Provisions allowed southern states to count slaves as 3/5 persons for purposes of apportionment in Congress (even though the slaves could not, of course, vote), expressly denied to Congress the power to prohibit importation of new slaves until 1808, and prevented free states from enacting laws protecting fugitive slaves. Slavery, as all students of history know, continued to be a divisive issue up through the Civil War. Southern states worried that the balance in Congress might tip against slavery, and so were anxious to extend slavery to new territories and states. The Missouri Compromise of 1820 (enacted at a time when slave states and non-slave states had equal representation in the Senate) permitted slavery in Missouri, but prohibited slavery in portions of the Louisiana purchase north of 36°30′. The Supreme Court, in its infamous decision in Dred Scott v Sandford (1857), ruled that Congress lacked the power to prohibit slavery in its territories. In so doing, Scott v Sandford invited slave owners to pour into the territories and pass pro-slavery constitutions. The decision made the Civil War inevitable. Chief Justice Roger Taney, writing for the majority in Scott, also concluded that people of African ancestry (whether free or a slave, including Scott) could never become “citizens” within the meaning of the Constitution, and hence lacked the ability to bring suit in federal court. The Constitution and Slavery: Provisions in the Original Constitution Article I, Section. 2 [Slaves count as 3/5 persons] Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons [i.e., slaves]. Article I, Section. 9, clause 1. [No power to ban slavery until 1808] The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person. Article IV, Section. 2. [Free states cannot protect slaves] No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due. Article V [No Constitutional Amendment to Ban Slavery Until 1808] …No Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article. The Thirteenth Amendment Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865. Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Wake Up America This Isn’t Nazi Germany. |
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How does this go from an expansion of a volunteer national service corp, which I think isn't to bad, to a slavery issue? I don't get it, I didn't look at any of the links but I read what you posted here and I don't get it.
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The report isn't alex jones the videos are that's why i posted it as it's an independant report with jones video reports.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/updat...-passes-senate The ways in which NWO creeps is astounding Dan-wolves in sheeps clothing...a thief in the night...give with one hand and take everything with the other you should know the score- people have to stop being naive and use their noodles more. I'm a poet and don't knowitt!! underhand passage always look at the underside of a car before you buy it-the hidden parts are where the problems lie-it's not all about glossy paintwork,a good stereo and nice upholstery jack!lol.There again if it's got a pair of fluffy dice?? http://survivalacres.com/wordpress/?p=1649 Last edited by Antaletriangle; 03-26-2009 at 10:07 PM. |
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There, I just deleted the Alex Jones part, HaHa, and guess I should watch the links. LOL
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March 25, 2009 Senate Passes Bill to Enslave 7 Million Americans 349 Views Filed under: General, Tyranny — admin @ 10:05 am I wish this were a joke, but it is not. Senate Rubber Stamps National Enslavement Bill The Senate last night rubber stamped a nightmare domestic draft bill that legislates mandatory national service and creates an “army” of at least 7 million civilian enforcers working at the the behest of the government, while also containing language that threatens to ban free speech and the right to protest. I definitely saw this one coming. You were warned that we would see garbage like this. It’s pretty clear to me anyway, why this is being done. And frankly, there are a lot of good reasons why this is happening. But that does not negate the fact that if we’d simply changed our civilization and society first and foremost (which was the only response actually needed), we’d have never needed this. So don’t think I support this — I don’t. But I have given a lot of thought to the tactical response of government and why they are going to be “forced” to do a lot of things ahead. This is just one of them. In case you don’t realize it yet, this is the preparation for national collapse. There was no doubt that a recruitment program would be initiated as a tactical response for what is now, a foregone conclusion. Vaughn sent me a bunch of stuff as follows: I’m leaving the economic woes alone today. There are such ditties with regards to that today like these: EU Presidency: US Economic Plans A “Road To Hell” and UK Bond Auction Fails For First Time Since 2002 or Obama Denounces Global Currency While Creating The Very Means For It’s Introduction. But something else far more important and troubling came up. Owe-bama has just re-instated slavery. It is now law and he wants your sons and daughters. Owe-Bush-Rham-a’s plan is a direct violation of the 13th Amendment prohibition against involuntary servitude, and now they want to make any organized effort to point that fact out a crime, thus violating the First Amendment! I bet the Owe-bama-nauts didn’t see this one coming. Next up: false flag terror attacks, a major war, economic depression, martial law and gun confiscation. Senate Rubber Stamps Enslavement Bill (March 24, 2009) The Senate last night rubber stamped a nightmare domestic draft bill that legislates mandatory national service and creates an “army” of at least 7 million civilian enforcers working at the the behest of the government, while also containing language that threatens to ban free speech and the right to protest. – Similar initiatives have been introduced in other western countries, including recently in the UK with the announcement that MI5 is currently training up to 60,000 UK citizens as part a civilian network of terrorist spotters, according to Prime Minister Gordon Brown and home secretary, Jacqui Smith. – In an interview with Ben Smith of the New York Daily News, Emanuel outlined the agenda for military-style training, essentially a domestic draft, aimed at preparing Americans for a chemical or biological terrorist attack. Asked by Smith about the universal service plan and whether people would have to live in military barracks, Emanuel laughed before responding, “We’re going to have universal civil defense training, somewhere between the ages of 18 to 25 you will do three months of training….but there can be nothing wrong with all Americans having a joint similar experience of what we call civil defense training or civil service in service of the country, in preparation, which will give people a sense of what it means to be an American.” – The passage of such shocking legislation with barely a whimper from political activist groups goes to show how well the corporate media has performed in camouflaging the legislation with flowery characterizations of helpful volunteerism, when in reality the bill creates the pretext for mandatory national service and the creation of a multi-million man domestic civil defense unit who will be tasked with spying on their fellow Americans under the justification of protecting the country from terrorism. The “GIVE” Act Calls For You Kids To Be Owned By The State (March 25, 2009) One may ask, “What’s the big deal about kids doing some good for their community?” There is one very simple answer for this…”What’s the big deal with your kids being OWNED by an omnipotent government?” What a wonderful example of its delights the Germans and their drilled and trained wunderkinder left us? Mandatory involuntary service shall set us all free! GIVE Mandatory Service Act Strips First Amendment Of “Volunteers” (March 24, 2009) GIVE (up your rights) will conscript millions of young people, put them in uniforms and send them packing to 4-year “public service” academies where they will be indoctrinated and trained to become “public sector leaders.” Try And Make Me (March 25, 2009) Remember the Thirteenth Amendment? About how “neither slavery nor involuntary servitude” should exist in this country “except as punishment for a crime” that someone’s been convicted of by due process? That includes “involuntary servitude” in pursuit of what I’m sure will be noble, public-minded projects (after all, there’s no way Barack Obama is going to use this to provide footsoldiers for radical leftist organizations). “No involuntary servitude” means even if you think it’s for the greater good. I volunteer for organizations that I feel deserve my time, in pursuit of goals I choose. You’re going to try and force me to do the volunteer work that serves your interests? Good luck. I will not do charity work at gunpoint. Not for Obama, not for anyone. GIVE….Until It’s Mandatory? (March 25, 2009) Warning: Michelle Malkin is referenced within (I can’t stand her). But the point is made. This is shocking to both sides of the political fence. How’s That Obama Vote Working Out For You?? (March 25, 2009) As promised during his campaign, Obama is moving forward with his OBAMA YOUTH SQUAD. Yesterday, The US House took the first step in organizing Obama’s dream of a youth service corp. To add to all this…. Monsanto Planting Seeds In The White House (March 24, 2009) Now you get an inkling of what HR 875 is about. You’re not to grow your own food or sell it. Apparently, President Obama is considering appointing Michael Taylor to head the new Food Safety Working Group. Who’s Michael Taylor? Hmm, I Wonder What This Was In Preparation For? REVOLUTION! - Giant Shipment Of Weapons Seized At Airport (March 25, 2009) They found 60 pump action 12-gauge shotguns and 177 pistols. The shotguns were encased in Styrofoam molding and individually packaged in 12 large boxes. The pistols were shipped within hard plastic gun storage cases packed inside 13 large cardboard boxes. The guns were destined for a business located in Kentucky. Neither the shotguns nor pistols were found to have any serial numbers or markings. 60 shotguns and 177 handguns doesn’t so “giant”. So much for revolution. But that they did not have serial numbers or markings IS interesting. |
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It's ok DanTheMan... that was my 'take' as well.
However, wasn't it cited in Zeitgeist II (the addendum) a contrast between modern & former slavery: outright slavery, the slaves were housed, clothed & fed. Today, the modern workforce pays for its own roof & meals. |
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I would listen to the first set of vids on alex jones radio-doesn't matter if you don't llike him or not-he has some things to say,he gets really empassioned and is freaking out-i didn't like sprouts but i knew they were still good for me lol.
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I got two nephews, and they are looking at leaving their home, their country, and fleeing abroad to avoid what they term 'Obama's servitude'. They are 16 and 17 1/2, and already can see that this is a slave bill in all but name.
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Senate Votes to Triple AmeriCorps, Bolster Service
By ANN SANNER – 4 hours ago 3/26/2009 WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate has passed a major national service bill that triples the AmeriCorps program and encourages a broad range of Americans to give back to their communities. The House could take up the bill as early as Monday, sending it to President Barack Obama for his signature. The Senate voted 79-19 to increase AmeriCorps to 250,000 from its current 75,000 positions over eight years. The bill would also create five groups to help poor people, improve education, encourage energy efficiency, strengthen access to health care and assist veterans. The measure won support from both parties despite assertions by some Republicans that it represents a costly and unnecessary intrusion by government. (This version CORRECTS the final vote to 79-19, not 78-20, to reflect lawmaker's changed vote after roll call ended.) Related articles at bottom of article posted here: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/wire.php?view=3674 |
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Yes peaceand love-try not fall for the packaging my friend-that's all i can say-al that glitters isn't necessarily gold.These are strange times and deceits have a tendency to run wild-keep on your guard-there are major parallels here to hitler and hitler youth,brown shirts etc.history is meant to be used and gleaned from.
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I WAS JUST UPDATING YOUR THREAD, SINCE THE NEWS JUST HIT THE WIRE.
I'm not supporting this at all, the articles I post I don't necessarily agree with, they are just news reports, many of which are misleading, as we all know. The above article came from Campaign for Liberty and I'm quite sure the members there do not agree with it. There are always comments on the articles and videos I post from Campaign for Liberty. Many other articles I post are from Reality Zone, G. Edward Griffins' site and Catherine Austin Fitts' site, Solari.com/blog They do not necessarily agree with them either. Many are articles we would not see since they do not always appear in our mainstream media or comments are posted below to help open people's eyes. PaL I will try to post more comments in the future that resonate with me. Last edited by peaceandlove; 03-27-2009 at 03:06 AM. |
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I think it's rather silly to refer to it as slavery.
Then again, if people want to volunteer, they should only do it with their own free will. There's no point in make a law that requires them to. How are they going to enforce it? |
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4 years is a long time for youth national service, they will literally be different people.
I wouldn't be against national service (with allowance for sympathetic circumstantial exceptions) of 1-2 years as discipline, respect and at least the desire to think/behave fairly are desperately needed, if I didn't seriously doubt that is what they will get. It would also have to be less seperatist from society e.g. 1 year full time, second year part time or just 1 year part time. I wonder if there are indeed exceptions but for who eh? I remember when the push for recruitment (ongoing) really got into sway and recruiters knew to take advantage of the poorer people and where law makers were preaching about patriotism but barely any of their children were going. Last edited by She-Ra; 03-27-2009 at 10:19 AM. |
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Don't count out 'mandatory' service yet
Provisions dropped from one bill, but appear in another Posted: March 26, 2009 11:45 pm Eastern By Bob Unruh © 2009 WorldNetDaily A proposal in Congress to study whether "mandatory" service should be required of all young people in the United States has suddenly disappeared from a bill that would reauthorize other national service programs such as AmeriCorps. But the plan has appeared in another bill at just about the same time. WND reported more than a week ago on a plan in the U.S. House of Representatives to determine whether "a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people" should be developed across the United States. But the language that was included in H.R. 1388 suddenly disappeared. At about the same time, H.R. 1444 by U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., appeared and was assigned to the House Committee on Labor and Education. The bill, under Section 4 (b)6, states: Quote:
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H.R. 1444: Congressional Commission on Involuntary Servitude
Posted by Sean Ryan on 04/08/09 12:26 PM Last updated 04/08/09 11:11 AM A bill was introduced last month that would create an 8-member commission to study, among other things, "The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service."This bill would require that a final "report" be submitted to Congress no later than 2 years after the passage of the act. Do you think that the eight wise men just might find a "fair and reasonable" way for the government to confiscate more of our wealth, by taking from us a part of our very lives, instead of just a part of our money? For those of you who may be shrugging your shoulders and thinking, "What's the big deal?" - I only ask you to remember that you are the owner of your body, not the state. A mandatory period of "national service" is no different - in principle - than a military draft. If you were a draft protester in the 1970's, or if you are an anti-war activist now, don't be fooled by the government's supposedly good intentions in this particular case. Don't think that, once you give the government the power to treat its citizens merely as means - pawns to be directed according to centralized social engineering plans - you will be able to limit the government's power only to those ends that you think are justified or worthwhile. Principles matter, and this is why - occasionally - free people have taken the time to write them down. Involuntary servitude is no less involuntary, just because the state is the master. If you know anyone who escaped to the U.S. from the former USSR, ask them their opinion of a system in which the state is the master of its subjects. As for me - I will never submit to a draft, and I will never be a domestic slave. Originally posted on www.FreedomRide.us. Source and comments: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php Last edited by peaceandlove; 04-10-2009 at 02:05 AM. |
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does anyone know when this bill will be enforced? i have a niece and nephew in that age range of 18-25....
my god people, this is nazi germany...just so cleverly presented...history is repeating itself! when are people going to wake up! i've been telling people about this bill and yet the reaction is so blahhh... like walking zombies...just blank stares, as if what i'm saying is perfectly ok.... the apathy is just so pervasive! i'm totally frustrated! |
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Obama Fires Inspector General, the guy who found what's wrong with Americorps
![]() Grassley had written Obama a letter pointing to a law requiring that Congress be given the reasons an inspector general is fired. He cited a Senate report saying the requirement is designed to ensure that inspectors general are not removed for political reasons. Grassley said Walpin had identified millions of dollars in AmeriCorps funds that were wasted or misspent and "it appears he has been doing a good job." Posted by TruthSaga on 06/12/09 7:11 PM Ousted AmeriCorps watchdog defends waste probe http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090612/...pector_general By ANN SANNER and PETE YOST, Associated Press Writers Ann Sanner And Pete Yost, Associated Press Writers - 57 mins ago WASHINGTON - An inspector general fired by President Barack Obama said Friday he acted "with the highest integrity" in investigating AmeriCorps and other government-funded national service programs. Gerald Walpin said in an interview with The Associated Press that he reported facts and conclusions "in an honest and full way" while serving as inspector general at the Corporation for National and Community Service. In a letter to Congress on Thursday, Obama said he had lost confidence in Walpin and was removing him from the position. Walpin defended his work on Friday. "I know that I and my office acted with the highest integrity as an independent inspector general should act," he said. Obama's move follows an investigation by Walpin finding misuse of federal grants by a nonprofit education group led by Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, who is an Obama supporter and former NBA basketball star. Johnson and a nonprofit education academy he founded ultimately agree to repay half of $847,000 in grants it had received from AmeriCorps. Continues: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=19895 AND YOU DIDN'T GET THIS NEWS FROM NEWSHOUND ~ WHAT A JOKE THAT IS! ![]() Last edited by peaceandlove; 06-13-2009 at 09:11 PM. |
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well it sounds like a few people dislike Alex Jones in here.
He did warn us about this didn't he? Alex comes off loud and demanding but I actually feel bad for Alex. He is right in so much that he says and just has a problem reporting it. He is a good man and is doing something that is extremely stressful when you think about it. Not too many men go out of their way to help others. That is what Alex is doing. He is warning us of what is happening. We can believe it or not, but he is more right than wrong..............I cant imagine going back and taking our media news for granted as gospel once again LOL Good ole Alex Jones................warned us all and maybe now some will go back and see what else he has to say............. This is not good news at all ! |
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This may be a little : ![]() I don't know who comes up with these titles at youtube, but here goes. Lew Rockwell on Alex Jones Tv 1/3: Obama's Puppet Masters Have Been Busy June 12, 2009 Alex talks with libertarian political commentator, activist, proponent of the Austrian School of economics, and chairman of the Ludwig von Mises Institute, Lew Rockwell. Video (10:33): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eG3463c3P4 Last edited by peaceandlove; 06-13-2009 at 10:41 PM. |
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