Icke on Obama - beware!

[Avid]

http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/18281

"I am writing this in the last days of 2008 as I watch with dismay as vast numbers of people across the world, including many who should know better, have been duped by the mind-game called Operation Obama.

Even people with some understanding of the conspiracy have said things like: 'Well, at least he's not Bush' and 'Well, at least it's great to see such a new spirit of hope'. No, he's not Bush - he's potentially far more dangerous; and what is the use of a spirit of 'hope' if it's based on a lie? In fact, what use is 'hope' at all?

Obama's wife, Michelle, who I wouldn't trust to tell me the date in a calendar factory, said that 'everything begins and ends with hope'. Utter nonsense. Hope is a meaningless emotion because its fruits are always in the future and, by definition, never in the NOW.

Hope is like riding a carousel horse; no matter how fast you go you never get closer to the one in front. The idea, however, is to persuade you to stay on the horse, despite the evitable disappointment, in the 'hope' that things will change. But they don't because the very system is designed to prevent it......."

more at link above

So this bodes ill again - the 'puppet' is almost in 'power'.
I feel so sorry for the folk that thought his colour meant 'change' - he's been groomed and cossetted incognito for years - notwithstanding his rights to be elected constitutionally, he's been 'bought'/mind-controlled/trained/subjected to the PTB agenda until he serves no useful purpose. Hmmm - kill Obama the 'Saviour' and foment insurrection - therefore martial law, or blame Iran and create WWIII via some nonsensical Gaza probs, or as Pravda said - the USA needs a new false-flag (potentially nuclear) to make viable the grab for a NWO....

[Egg]

Oh no Avid, Obama won't die. Thats not planned at all. China versus Russia is the real deal on that score, and Obama is going to get rid of pakistan on route so they cannot back China up. This is also a little bit of 'hey we helped you, you help us' thrown India's way.

After seeing his support in the election, his death went to the back burner when they realised they had a 'in all the way to the balls' team player on their hands.


Phonetics. Think about it.

War on Terra.

[Samarkis]

Namaste!!

Let's be very careful not to encourage lower Vibrations!! Demand the change in the NOW-the Laws of Attraction will Follow!!! Re-direct the energies for the good of Mankind in the NOW-Not just complain about it!!!!!

[Avid]

Originally Posted by Samarkis

Namaste!!

Let's be very careful not to encourage lower Vibrations!! Demand the change in the NOW-the Laws of Attraction will Follow!!! Re-direct the energies for the good of Mankind in the NOW-Not just complain about it!!!!!

Yes - lower vibrations seem to 'creep up' on us frequently - you are absolutely right - SO WE WILL demand these undesirables to cease and desist - block them from our lives/fears but be aware that they may try to infiltrate elsewhere.
Close your mind to negativity, have a lovely warm relaxing bed-time drink/bath etc. (no alcohol!!!)

I am off to bed now as exhausted but look forward to rellies/friends/acquaintances contacting you all asap

[Josefine]

Originally Posted by Avid

Yes - lower vibrations seem to 'creep up' on us frequently - you are absolutely right

If you can't get the one you love (whoever that was), you got to love the one you get!'

Here is an interesting take from Regina at the conscious media network. It's her monthly Fifth Element talk. It's free this month and well worth a listen.

"Regina talks about an intuitive session on the role of Obama as a soul in inspiring the people to a higher expectation, an expectation which "We The People" need to uphold. She explains that the collective hope, joy and expectation that was ignited just after the election, shifted the matrix to a higher level and was the previously missing component for a paradigm shift."

No matter what we know or feel about him and the people he has chosen for his administration, it is up to WE THE PEOPLE to change the vibration.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/fe1208free.htm

Although I didn't vote for the man, what she says makes sense to me. ~Kat

[Barron]

Hi Kathleen.

I like your post and your sentiments.

Re "...on the role of Obama as a soul in inspiring the people to a higher expectation" - the same could be said of Bush too!

[Josefine]

Originally Posted by Barron

Re "...on the role of Obama as a soul in inspiring the people to a higher expectation" - the same could be said of Bush too!

In 2001 we did receive an interesting take on Bush being conscious of the role he has taken on and that sometimes, in his deepest sleep, there are tears.
We have 'alarm clocks from hell' ringing in our ears, and the roles taken on do not necessarily speak of the deeper beings.

[Ashatav]

Obama is the most Hitlerlike figure in decades (mover of masses, see how Hitles rised) and saddly hold the stakes of the people who paid for his campaing and more.


Ther are All Bilderbergs, Knigts of Malta and CFR guys (Spiritual iliterated by the way)

So he Is very dangerous actually.

Cheers .......................................?

Originally Posted by Ashatav

Obama is the most Hitlerlike figure in decades

He may be Ghengis Khan reincarnate...but there's millions of us and just one of him. We can change his paradigm. Surprise! They'll never know what hit 'em. Or maybe they do know and that's why they try to keep us down. They have much fear of the power of "us"!


Power to the people!

Originally Posted by Barron

Re "...on the role of Obama as a soul in inspiring the people to a higher expectation" - the same could be said of Bush too!

Barron, I personally cannot say the same for Bush as the circumstances of both his 'selections' were suspect. There was no feeling of hope or change to ride the wave on. But I understand what you are saying as Bush too has a soul....I think. Tee hee!

[Steven]

Hello all.

It has been said before, but I want to add to it a little bit.

The men/women in power, be it a "frontline" president or a hidden follower of "all that goes against Creation", does not have more consciousness influence then their own sphere of influence.

It does not really matter who they are, Barak or Hilary, would have not change the faith of Humanity. We have logical tendencies to give them more influence that they really have. Behind the scene is the real power.

The fact that they are listened by the mass, the fact that they have a say in many social, economical, political, military, religious or financial decision give them a lot of power. It does influence the mass consciousness.

But the finality of the mass consciousness is constituted by every human soul. Once aware of this, any single human can get out of the influence the men/women in power have over the mass, consciously. When many people are aware of this, the "power" some people have begin to stifle. They themselves begin to be influenced by the "awakening" of the mass consciousness. This is what is happening at the moment. It is the very reason why future prediction of any kind are almost impossible. And the awakening has just begun.

Chaos is necessary for a New Paradigm to emerge, but chaos does not necessary mean destruction by massive colossal earthquake, volcano, tsunami, hurricane, meteor or Nibiru. Chaos might take a form of system crumbling into ashes because the people stop believing in it.

Do not forget one thing, if we get a future of catastrophe, it would be created by the mass consciousness, nothing else. It always comes down to us and what we emate to the Universe.

Into the intimacy of your Heart, cherish a vision of a healty Earth, wonderous montains and valley, clean ocean and fresh air. Bring joy to your heart while seeing the amazing diversity of life thriving. Bring peace to your soul by seeing a peaceful humanity working together for the best of all life.

This vision will be recorded in the mass consciousness, will influence other thoughts and will send a clear message to the Universe which will respond accordingly. This has more power then any men/women in power. In the balance, it has a great weight.

Edit: Barak and David are doing their purpose. In my point of view, David should always alert the people who follow his research to stay aware of the danger at staring into the abyss. When you contemplate darkness, even for a purpose of helping the truth, you will certainly bring something back from it into your life, the Universal Laws always work. As for Barak, he will act according to the mass consciousness. If the mass consciousness contains components representing fear and war, he will respond to it accordingly. If we all contribute to bring components of peace and harmony into the mass consciousness, the overall will be influenced and the men/women in power will respond accordinly. We have the political decision we create.

Namaste, Steven

[K626]

Icke as much as I love him is being too simplistic about the Obama scenario.

There is hidden meaning in this event.

[burgundia]

What if all these political figures could be what we, people,wanted them to be? If we want Obama to be "the saviour" maybe he will be. our thought projections create reality. Let's create something nice! let's refrain from pessimistic ugly pictures. Envisioning them will not help to create the beauty of our world. Against all odds, let's think positive. It doesn't hurt!!!

[Carol]

As far as I'm concerned my bottom line is that Obama was not born in the US. I heard his grandmother say so on a tape with the other children in the background telling her to be quiet.

Now let's look at the reality here. For Obama to have made it into the White House, a literal unknown 5 years ago, means he was picked and groomed years ago. He is owned by the trilateral. Not only that, if there is someone who is not a natural born citizen in power that means any decisions he makes are invalid as legally he has no right to be in the position of President to begin with. Therefore, this whole presidency is built upon a lie. This in itself says a lot. John Hogue wonders if Nostradamus's prediction of Mabus is indeed Obama.

The way that I see this is that we have a young inexperienced man owned by the trilateral illegally in the White House. No matter what anyone thinks... this is not a good thing because once again this situation is based on deception and lies.

I fully expect the next 4 years to be the worst that this nation will have experienced during my lifetime and that says a lot.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by Carol

As far as I'm concerned my bottom line is that Obama was not born in the US. I heard his grandmother say so on a tape with the other children in the background telling her to be quiet.

Now let's look at the reality here. For Obama to have made it into the White House, a literal unknown 5 years ago, means he was picked and groomed years ago. He is owned by the trilateral. Not only that, if there is someone who is not a natural born citizen in power that means any decisions he makes are invalid as legally he has no right to be in the position of President to begin with. Therefore, this whole presidency is built upon a lie. This in itself says a lot. John Hogue wonders if Nostradamus's prediction of Mabus is indeed Obama.

The way that I see this is that we have a young inexperienced man owned by the trilateral illegally in the White House. No matter what anyone thinks... this is not a good thing because once again this situation is based on deception and lies.

I fully expect the next 4 years to be the worst that this nation will have experienced during my lifetime and that says a lot.

but i really doubt it will be Obama's fault if he is only a puppet. If not him, then somegody else, what difference does it make. The fact that he wasn't born in USA can be always used against him when 'the necessity arises".

[mntruthseeker]

I go along with Carol on this. Not only is Obama not a citizen of the USA. I don't even believe he is an Obama. I go along that his last name s/b Marshall.

If you review all the Bloodlines you will see this adoption of sons happens alot. Oh lets hide the last names you know........I believe that the government would like this to be the worse years but we can change it with our prayers.

Lets make the reality ours.........

Icke is no fool.........I have heard he has his own agenda but I don't buy that............He works too hard at getting this info out to us

I sometimes wonder if what we hear is what they want us to hear..............me thinks my mind is fried !

[Steven]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

...I sometimes wonder if what we hear is what they want us to hear...

Indeed, it is very true. We live in a highly manipulated mental reality. "There is a lie at every level" Hoagland's friend said. This is also true for the mass. There is a lie in every section of the social system.

Icke might be used by the same people against who he seems struggling, to some degree.

I agree with Burgundia: "I really doubt it will be Obama's fault if he is only a puppet. If not him, then somebody else, what difference does it make. The fact that he wasn't born in USA can be always used against him when 'the necessity arises"."

The public faces are the most influenced and certainly not the more significant.

Take the catholic roman church for example. The real power behind it (I'm talking about the institution, and not the church of the people at the base community level) is not in the pope's and cardinal's hand. The real hierarchy of power is behind the scene and the members who constitute it could be simple monk or priest, but with significant power over the institution. It is an old efficient way to govern which is at its best used today in every section of the social system.

And if they can corrupt the social system, they would also corrupt any old prophecy with significant impact over the mass.

Namaste, Steven

[K626]

Originally Posted by Carol

As far as I'm concerned my bottom line is that Obama was not born in the US. I heard his grandmother say so on a tape with the other children in the background telling her to be quiet.

Now let's look at the reality here. For Obama to have made it into the White House, a literal unknown 5 years ago, means he was picked and groomed years ago. He is owned by the trilateral. Not only that, if there is someone who is not a natural born citizen in power that means any decisions he makes are invalid as legally he has no right to be in the position of President to begin with. Therefore, this whole presidency is built upon a lie. This in itself says a lot. John Hogue wonders if Nostradamus's prediction of Mabus is indeed Obama.

The way that I see this is that we have a young inexperienced man owned by the trilateral illegally in the White House. No matter what anyone thinks... this is not a good thing because once again this situation is based on deception and lies.

I fully expect the next 4 years to be the worst that this nation will have experienced during my lifetime and that says a lot.

Obama has meaning beyond our everyday concerns. When he digs deep he will find it.

Peace.

K.

[Carol]

Well I always hope for the best but be assured I will tie up the camel.

This morning we have started the process of protecting our 401 k by dropping the amount deposited into it and seeing if what is there can be converted into gold. We are also purchasing gold and silver which I've held off doing but had been advised to do since last summer.

Transitions are always a time of change. However, after listening to numerous fiscal people and their financial reports.. living in a Mobile home is probably a good thing.

[K626]

Originally Posted by Carol

Well I always hope for the best but be assured I will tie up the camel.

This morning we have started the process of protecting our 401 k by dropping the amount deposited into it and seeing if what is there can be converted into gold. We are also purchase gold and silver which I've held off doing but had been advised to do since last summer.

Transitions are always a time of change. However, after listening to numerous fiscal people and their financial reports.. living in a Mobile home is probably a good thing.

Gold and silver will probably be confiscated if you live in the U.S.

Far better to convert excess cash into barter-able goods.

If you can move it is a very good thing and I see you have intuited this already.

Water will be the key.

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by Josefine

In 2001 we did receive an interesting take on Bush being conscious of the role he has taken on and that sometimes, in his deepest sleep, there are tears.
We have 'alarm clocks from hell' ringing in our ears, and the roles taken on do not necessarily speak of the deeper beings.

I read an interesting article about what Bush`s administration has done and in it they were saying that we should send them our love because they have done more to wake people up in the last 8 yrs than anything else so maybe its a good thing he stole those elections

[Northern Boy]

Originally Posted by Carol

Well I always hope for the best but be assured I will tie up the camel.

This morning we have started the process of protecting our 401 k by dropping the amount deposited into it and seeing if what is there can be converted into gold. We are also purchase gold and silver which I've held off doing but had been advised to do since last summer.

Transitions are always a time of change. However, after listening to numerous fiscal people and their financial reports.. living in a Mobile home is probably a good thing.

buy T- bills

[Barron]

Hi

I agree with K626

They would probably confiscate gold - it happened before in your history so can easily happen again.

And i most certainly would not buy T-bills. If you can buy physical Gold relatively anonymously that would be the safest thing to do in my opinion.

Of course should "NESARA" come to pass then none of us will have a thing to worry about will we now??!!!

[Carol]

Originally Posted by K626

Gold and silver will probably be confiscated if you live in the U.S.

Far better to convert excess cash into barter-able goods.

If you can move it is a very good thing and I see you have intuited this already.

Water will be the key.

First they have to know you have it before they can confiscate it. I purchase it through private parties.